psyker-class

[broken carbon]

who knows !

no clue

maybe?

it’d explain why blue sparks don’t really happen on weakspot

due to weakspot bonus

[patent steeple]

I mean, that's what I feel too when I use it. (I no longer use DS mk4, because the lights are worse for horde clear than on DS mk2)

[glossy escarp]

ADM?

[jovial juniper]

"Can't hurt Ogryn"

[broken carbon]

armor damage modifier

[glossy escarp]

Ah

[broken carbon]

/multiplier

[broken carbon]

oh hi i was just talkin about u

[frozen loom]

right? I can just H1->special loop if I need to hit monstrosities melee

[glossy escarp]

So pen stat + rending and/or brittleness etc

[broken carbon]

and our failed attempt to understand cleave damage distribution

[jovial juniper]

I see

[hasty breach]

my heart will break if i have to think aobut the other mks of DS.

[broken carbon]

yeah, pen stat/stopping power determines ur base ADMs

carapace for most weapons has an ADM of like

0.06

on lights at least

[lusty lake]

what are warp charges?

[broken carbon]

and infantry las, auto guns, etc

[broken carbon]

a stack gained on elite kill (and by chance with a sub node) when you have the warp siphon talent

[broken carbon]

you can have up to 4 stacks default

oh yeah that works too

[glossy escarp]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

You can check all the talents here

If you don't wanna open the game

[broken carbon]

despair…

do you know if

power/strength affects cleave damage distribution

i’d test it but, no power rn

thanks hurricane

[sacred crane]

All it does is increase the damage of cleaved enemies

But doesnt affect cleave directly

[broken carbon]

i know it increase your damage, i’m talking about if it increases how much damage remains per target cleaved

[glossy escarp]

Called it

[broken carbon]

it affects cleave, as in cleave hitmass

[sacred crane]

Nah it doesnt

[broken carbon]

but i was wondering particularly about damage distribution

ah

good 2 know

kinda

it’d never actually be useful to know lmfao

[sacred crane]

Strength is damage
Power is damage, stagger and somethin else

[broken carbon]

strength and power are interchangeable now

they renamed them

[sacred crane]

Oh well

[hasty breach]

first strike is damage xD

stopping power is damage

damage is damage

CRIT bonus is BARELY damage

crowd control is attack speed xD

finesse is attack speed

anyone have a good gunker for the bolt pistol? i keep throwing stuff at the wall and not getting it to work

[potent echo]

Mommy blog post

[ivory forge]

can some of the psyker main give me a build that can carry new player on heresy? I'm a vet main and find it kinda difficult to carry using psyker.

[jovial juniper]

I think the cleave damage distribution still the same

[broken carbon]

noted

[sacred crane]

Weeeelll gonna be honest, gunker is best suited for auto guns, semi auto ones are harder to make use with since they dont quell peril fast enough nor can build stacks fast enough

You can still use it with boltpistol tho

[hasty breach]

im aware it's best with autoguns but im bored of them

[sacred crane]

Well then all I can say is just good luck with the build, nothing you can really take to help improve it for boltpistol

[hasty breach]

darn

[potent echo]

Bolt pistol gunker is definitely doable

[weary crane]

Soulblaze eyes

(I'm actually blind from using purga too much)

[desert yoke]

Yeah but auto guns are kinda dull

I run recon for my gunker

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-daring-today-spongebob-spongebob-meme-daring-today-arent-we-gif-23808696

[plucky flax]

Bistol.

If you squint really hard it's 1mil damage. Bistol must be gud

[mossy oyster]

now do it without a ds4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[plucky flax]

Challenge:impossible

[mossy oyster]

then I guess bistol ain’t that good after all

[plucky flax]

[frozen loom]

DS2 challenge

[plucky flax]

If they make ds2 have horizontal heavy I would play it.

Heavy 2*

[mossy oyster]

pokey stab into a horizontal heavy

doesn’t sound too shabby

if only fatshart would do it though

[plucky flax]

The heavy 2 angle is so bad.

[mossy oyster]

its like

it wants to be completely vertical

but it goes for being diagonal

[tawdry hemlock]

Any advice on how to do "Malleus Monstronum" Panance?

[eternal junco]

Get a blockmaxxing ogryn/kd psyker buddy

[slate oasis]

get a shield ogryn friend to agro a demon host

[tawdry hemlock]

ahhh ok ok ty Ill try to do that

[hollow jolt]

You can also have a guy kite a beast of nurgle to death

Ideally a Vet for Ping keystone

[plucky flax]

More range damage than burn damage on burgatus

Embrace direct damage meta.

(It's actually damage from bb)

[slender coyote]

hi

[sacred crane]

So auto guns but better

[jovial juniper]

[gray kelp]

thinking of finally trying out gun psyker what do people like to run on it? Scrier's gaze, maybe a laspistol?

[plucky flax]

Both gazer and creeping flames work.

I'd recommend going assail and DD keystone for either ability.

[gray kelp]

so full right basically if I run gaze. Any recs for ranged weapons? I never really tried gun psyker before

[plucky flax]

Mk2 las pistol, mk12 recon las, or vraks infantry autogun if you go gazer.

Since they are finesse weapon.

Fast firing too.

[elder glade]

Las pistol is fine, recon las is fine (MK XII and MK VIC), any of the infantry autoguns are fine (VIAG in particular)

[plucky flax]

For creeping flames I tend to prefer harder hitting guns like bistol or revolver.

But bistol is supremacy.

[fleet agate]

How does the shards work? I get confused of how exactly it kills, it's seeking based on aimbot or based on if I look towards an enemy or not?

[plucky flax]

Based on crosshair.

You can sort of manipulate it a bit.

[fleet agate]

Oh okay, thank you

Kinda hoped it would do the work for me but still it's pretty powerfull either way

[plucky flax]

Yeah but it'd seek targets close to crosshair anyway.

It's really easy to just spam it and kill stuff.

[fleet agate]

Can't say i didn't do it already XD

[radiant frigate]

"kill heretics in this general direction tyvm"

[plucky flax]

Gun psyker clutch using mostly assail :>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en720aSwEJg

[late sapphire]

this is the worst music i have heard in the last decade or so i think

[plucky flax]

You didn't enjoy playing cp77 then.

[elder glade]

I got slapped with memories of my last playthrough right there

[late sapphire]

There was one radio station that was ok

[jovial juniper]

Body Heat? Growl? Morro Rock? Vexelstrom?

Uh

[radiant frigate]

vexelstrom is peak

[plucky flax]

CP77 is kind of mid but the dlc was good.

Wish Jacky was there for longer.

[radiant frigate]

i listened to body heat one time when i entered mitch's car

and what was on?

PONPON SHIT

all i could think is "what the hell were you listening to?"

[late sapphire]

I think it was vexelstrom yeah

Idk i just switched stations whenever shit music came on and then settled on one

[plucky flax]

That ponpon shit is peak.

[jovial juniper]

Ponpon shit became annoying really fast which sucks because the instrumental is goated

[late sapphire]

I think it should be illegal to make music i don't like

[radiant frigate]

i think my favorite was kill the messenger

[late sapphire]

All of the rezodrone tracks are pretty good

[radiant frigate]

the game has certainly had an impact on me

even named my vet

[fiery stratus]

It should be illegal to disagree with my opinion

[fleet agate]

What the song?

[plucky flax]

Gr4ves by konrad something

Cyberpunk ost

[fleet agate]

Thanks❤️

[plucky flax]

@late sapphire check mate someone liked it

[late sapphire]

Hell on earth

[latent mauve]

I’ll like it in a min

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-yes-master-worship-gif-10846832

[plucky flax]

I meant the music

[raven kayak]

man.. i started playing cyberpunk some weeks ago

it hit me hard

[quartz barn]

Mfw the bad end is the good end and vice versa

[plucky flax]

Witcher 4 should be gud

I prefer witcher 3 much more than cp77 actually.

[raven kayak]

anyways, any build for the disrupt destiny penance

[quartz barn]

Voidstrike

[raven kayak]

ehhhh

[quartz barn]

Thats it

[latent mauve]

Based. king

[plucky flax]

The voice acting for V is just meh

Whilst Geralt was 100000/10

[raven kayak]

high functioning cyberpsycho is a fun way to exist

[quartz barn]

Wdym you get makoto from p5

[raven kayak]

gorilla arms, shotgun

life is good

[plucky flax]

I like the auto aim machinegun

[quartz barn]

And tbf witcher has 3 games and is based on a book series

[plucky flax]

Electrocute people. Basically surge staff pog

[quartz barn]

Witcher 2 gameplay was ass but the story hard carried

[plucky flax]

I think they are remaking 1?

Would be cool to remake both 1 and 2

[raven kayak]

the staff?

[patent steeple]

doesn't CP77 also have the vending machines that sell the absolutely worthless disposable plastic guns?

[quartz barn]

Also made me replay w3 because witcher 2s ending made me feel bad

[quartz barn]

Ye, easy to hit blue man

[raven kayak]

i hate blue man

[plucky flax]

Find the blue guys they give you damage

[fleet agate]

Plastic food not guns

[patent steeple]

||I'm blue (man) daba deeba du die||

[jovial juniper]

Slaught-o-matic or something

[fleet agate]

||I'm just depressed||

[patent steeple]

yeah, that's the one.

they actually remind me of Tediore guns from Borderlands (disposable, made to be sold for cheap prices, are made of plastic/similar materials, have garbage stats, marketed towards random civilians/families)

actually, Tediore guns are better than the CP77 Slaught-o-matic (Tediore guns are not reloaded, and are instead tossed like grenades, and deal bonus damage based on how many shots were left)

[raven kayak]

im pretty sure they are suicide vending machines

[quartz barn]

Those vending machines were really usefull pre dlc because they always run out of money when selling things

[raven kayak]

wish the habitants used those instead of jumpscaring me everytime they jump off a building

[ivory forge]

I like the electric staff, and also like smite. Is getting both kinda overkill?

[dusky iris]

No. They don't do the same thing.

[plucky flax]

It's super strong build to get both with illisi as melee.

[ivory forge]

smite for horde and electric staff for elite?

[slender coyote]

never in my life needed to use this

probably because I played melee mostly

and stealth

[dusky iris]

Smite is useful when you need to CC a scary amount of elites that otherwise risk being a problem for your team, or when you want to throw to the ground a big horde of chaff by quickly smiting them for a second. Everything else use Elektro.

I enjoy using it because of the machinegun quell-cancel on LMB. It's very nice on bosses.

[ivory forge]

thanks for the tip.

[quartz barn]

I duped items and sold to those machines so i could get all cars for the achievement. Every machine only has a limited amount of money in them though so the large amount of machines was nice

[paper ember]

Can i use smite if i chose to use a purgatus staff ?

[storm oyster]

don't Smite and Purgatus staff both do the same thing in dealing with hordes?

[paper ember]

I like shield, i like duelling sword, i like purgatus staff. I just don’t find a good build for that. If u guys can help

[storm oyster]

I mean, you can, no one's stopping you, but then you lose the ability to deal with anything beyond Smite/Purgatus range

[spiral minnow]

take brain burst for long range sniping

[storm oyster]

Brain Burst/Rupture

that is precisely what I am using right now actually

Duelling Sword, Flame staff, BB

and then take the Empowered Psionics capstone

[nocturne dust]

I actually am using inferno/shield/bb/ds rn

[upper sun]

the game mode is over bros.................

[storm oyster]

tbh i don't know whether to use shield or shriek

[upper sun]

shriek

[nocturne dust]

shield makes it harder to carry since you can't have egregious amounts of application and stacks but it definitely has uses

[quartz barn]

Remember that simply not using your blitz other than the skill tree pathing is also a possibility

[blissful forge]

Shriek is kino if you like staff spamming

[nocturne dust]

Shriek is more than that, creeping flames goes over inferno's max stacks

[blissful forge]

Yurp

[nocturne dust]

it really helps with damage against harder targets

[quartz barn]

Use it to stagger snipers on the other end of the hallway

[nocturne dust]

But you can definitely use shield if you want to, and it has niche uses that can make it better than shriek in a well-organized team

For example, shield can just block all ranged coming down a hallway. Say, a train with snipers potentially many meters away, well out of distance of shriek.

[subtle elbow]

Returning psyker here, my weapons do no dmg now. Just playing heresy OK. Where do I want to look for better gear? Emperor gifts? Which shop otherwise do you look at?

[storm oyster]

I remember Shriek has an upgrade that reduces blitz cast time by -50%

so on top of Empowered Psionics, is that like, -75% cast time?

[nocturne dust]

Someone needs to make a hadron and mastery guide, lol

[storm oyster]

what's the rating numbers on your weapons rn

[subtle elbow]

450 or so

[nocturne dust]

That's BB, not shriek

BB has an upgrade that makes its casting time reduced after you use an ability

[storm oyster]

oh

oh

Kinetic Resonance

75% faster cast time and -50% peril

that's...how fast on top of Empowered?

[supple escarp]

when i use scrier's gaze.. it doesnt "behave". The way it is supposed to work is it works up to 100 Peril and it activates its stacks. Works great in the meat grinder, but in the live game sometimes it "forgets" that it is activated. The peril is generated super fast, but if you let it get to 100% your brain bursts

[nocturne dust]

Checkout Hadron, she can upgrade weapons to max (500) if your mastery is high enough (menu in your inventory)

[nocturne dust]

It stacks with multiple ability casts, and shield wall gets 2 casts

[subtle elbow]

pog will do. I'll check hadron then

[nocturne dust]

still a bad ability tho

[storm oyster]

82.5% cast time reduction according to my math

[storm oyster]

I prefer dome shield over double shield lol

dome has that toughness regen

[nocturne dust]

Dome is definitely better imo, but I realize I goofed. I was referring to BB

[storm oyster]

but I like exploding heads

😭

[nocturne dust]

Fair, I'd just like those heads to actually explode rather than them surviving

EP is way too essential to making BB feel useful, and it's a keystone. Big oof.

[storm oyster]

I did have to rush to keystone for that

uhh

what about a Smite build?

[nocturne dust]

Not to mention you run out of stacks the moment you have to kill a dozen specials

[subtle elbow]

Well hadron worked just fine. Tyty

[jovial juniper]

Uh
No bubble

[nocturne dust]

What about it?

[storm oyster]

isn't there an EP upgrade that gives you an empowered stack if you kill an elite

[nocturne dust]

elites aren't specials

They different

[jovial juniper]

Because if you pick bubble (which you can) you'll lose a lot of damage

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, smite loves shriek

[storm oyster]

i was thinking like...

so Smite + some staff + Shriek + EP?

[nocturne dust]

Forget the staff

[storm oyster]

or, I think Smite works with gun psyker as well

[nocturne dust]

You have found the most OP build

Smite + Shriek + EP

Hold button, win

lol

One of the most boring as well.

[jovial juniper]

The alternative is Smite Scrier's with Warp Unbound which is even more boring

But you get to deal 2600 damage to Crushers

Which is uh

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if smite could crit

[jovial juniper]

You'd become immune to ranged attack because of EE proccing every second

[storm oyster]

What about bosses

[nocturne dust]

Bring a sword

Although psyker always kinda sucks against bosses

Fatshark, funni boss oneshots for psyker when?

[storm oyster]

Is

But what about like, the BBs

[nocturne dust]

I mean you can use it

and with enough setup it ain't bad but

I'd rather just inferno + sword

Make him crispy and then let the DoT work as you stab his eyes out

[jovial juniper]

The ideal setup would be
Double Kinetic Resonance procs
Celerity Stimm
3 EP charges

Machine gun brain burst

[nocturne dust]

I never use stims Bad habit of forgetting they exist.

and then when I remember the engagement is over already

[jovial juniper]

Quick stimm is fine for BB but I'd rather have Thinking stimm for more KR procs

[hollow jolt]

Blue stim yummy

[nocturne dust]

I prefer med stim because then I'll actually have a chance of remembering to use it during downtime

[sacred crane]

Combat stim is most yummy

Yummy boss shred

[plucky flax]

Ep bb and 21 stacks soulblaze can do work
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1293924466455347231/image.png?ex=67092490&is=6707d310&hm=b1e1ba188464584bbeff55398653ba452a742f343306dbeca4959070824663ab&

Nearly 300k monsters damage

[forest path]

lol

new skin

[hollow jolt]

Man the gas mask business is booming

[fluid lynx]

a small part of me is annoyed that it doesn't work at least a little, although i understand why it doesn't.

[runic juniper]

make brainburst apply a +20% damage buff again PLEASE

thats all i need

cerebral lacerations my beloved

[fiery wigeon]

who gets funny oneshots besides zealot

[mossy oyster]

vet if you count 4 kraks going off at once

[nocturne dust]

actual: 665k
total: 858k

[runic juniper]

vet magdumping with stacked buffs too

[fiery wigeon]

ooh

neither of these are onetaps tho

[plucky flax]

Old scoreboard doesn't take into account weakened monsters damage

[mossy oyster]

nothing is one or two tapping a boss

besides zealot

if that is your question

[fiery wigeon]

4 kraks simultaneously is close enough i guess lol

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-green-goblin-tobey-maguire-grenade-pumpkin-bomb-gif-26756291

these are vet kraks

[nocturne dust]

modders plz

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[fiery wigeon]

become the modder

[nocturne dust]

I already program for a job, I dun wanna do it for a hobby 😭

[runic juniper]

a agri revolver deleting a boss healthbar in a second is just as satisfying trust me

[fiery wigeon]

im gonna level a vet exclusively to minmax revolver fanning

[runic juniper]

truu

[nocturne dust]

I do want to use agrippina revolver at some point

but... but... staves are too cool

[fiery wigeon]

its so fun

i dunno if it's quite as strong as vld but like it feels so badass

[runic juniper]

revolvers on psyker feel pointless with assail

[fiery wigeon]

kinda

[mossy oyster]

agri sure doesnt feel useless when its 1 shotting bulwarks and reapers

[late sapphire]

ogryn nuke used to be close on weakened monstrosities

[mossy oyster]

or 2 shotting maulers/crushers

[fiery wigeon]

yeah

assail doesn't get to do much to beefier targets

[nocturne dust]

assail should at least bounce off armor rather than just disappearing

[fiery wigeon]

does it not

[nocturne dust]

would I say that if it did

[late sapphire]

cant cleave carapace

[runic juniper]

yeah it completely gets deleted

[fiery wigeon]

oof

that sucks lol

[nocturne dust]

Most annoying crap trying to hit with assail around a crusher/mauler

not that you should, but I wish that you could

[late sapphire]

Or bulwarks...

God i HATE bulwarks

[runic juniper]

new flamers are worse since assail almost always pops them

[fiery wigeon]

bulwarks are very frustrating

[late sapphire]

good for blowing up the zealot

[fiery wigeon]

noticed that

very annoying

[runic juniper]

not a fan of losing a 1/5 of my health if im anywhere in range of those

[fiery wigeon]

target the head like a normal person pls assail

[nocturne dust]

They're just poxbursters with assail

[fiery wigeon]

lolol

[runic juniper]

theyre pox bursters with any ranged if you dont aim at their dick

[mossy oyster]

RMB assail should purposely target the flamer tank

[runic juniper]

headshots will make them flinch and make the next would be headshot a tank shot

[mossy oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[fiery wigeon]

just onetap them smh

[runic juniper]

true just run revolver

[nocturne dust]

Hey Obese Fish, where the freak is the rest of my mobility?

[runic juniper]

rounded down clearly lol

If the rest of those stats arent a full 80% and theyre all just like 79.8% instead I would kill tzeench

[fiery wigeon]

i hate the stupid weapon stat system so much

[nocturne dust]

no 100% stats for you

[runic juniper]

'even our true maximum is inachievable with invisible decimal points'

[fiery wigeon]

everything about it just feels bad to interact with i hate it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-20581738

[languid pasture]

anyone got a build for agripinaa revolver or shotgun psyker

[fiery wigeon]

if the actual gameplay didn't feel so good i would've been gone a long while ago cuz of it

[fiery wigeon]

standard assail gaze destiny gunker/meleeker

[nocturne dust]

I too am only here because gameplay

[runic juniper]

yeah just pair it with assail and scriers gaze and you should be fine. keep peril topped off for as long as possible and grab that 20% dmg buff above the middle tree

[languid pasture]

this with the reload talent for shotgun? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d2d7191-4696-4b97-a4b9-9b72e97d4983/the-seer-assail-scriers-disrupt-destiny

[fiery wigeon]

I guess that sounds weird but, trying to use a weapon that doesn't have a good stat spread feels terrible but once i finally have a weapon that's actually functional the game is much more fun

[runic juniper]

with assail and gaze you have enough sources of peril, I wouldnt know about the reload speed but its not worth it compared to the adjacent talent imo

[fiery wigeon]

i personally dont think the reload speed is worth it but others may disagree with me

25% peril is a lot more significant than 25% reload speed

[runic juniper]

peril is a good thing btw

[nocturne dust]

Especially on Gunker since you can't blow up unless you use assail

[runic juniper]

even then new scriers is busted. like 5 seconds of actual downtime

[fiery wigeon]

yeah

i don't take it cuz i want to maximize gaze uptime and tossing 25% peril in there is not a great recipe

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense, it is very balanced and fair. I pinky promise.

[runic juniper]

does generating peril past 100% with scriers still give you toughness with the thp regen though?

[plucky flax]

Bistol better

Bistol gud

[nocturne dust]

You'd have to take warp expenditure tho

[runic juniper]

imagine not grabbing the first 6 nodes by default

[nocturne dust]

Done, now what?

Also you would hate my voidstrike build

lol

[runic juniper]

you gotta sacrifice 1 or 2 at times but id hate to see a build that paths directly away from them

[nocturne dust]

I made a meme build that only took battle meditation

and warp expenditure iirc

[fiery wigeon]

whats warp expenditure

[runic juniper]

battle med is the warp charge toughness right?

[nocturne dust]

I sacrificed all except soulstealer and quietude

[fiery wigeon]

warp siphon toughness regen is pretty potent

[nocturne dust]

It's 10% quell thingie

[runic juniper]

ah

[fiery wigeon]

on kill 10% chance to quell 10%?

[nocturne dust]

si, battle meditation

[fiery wigeon]

funni perk

[jovial juniper]

Wait you're going Surety Shotgun?

[fiery wigeon]

I'm glad we have actually good perks of the same vein

[jovial juniper]

Damn get the 10% reload perk on your weapon and spam special shot away

Unless it's the double barrel

[fiery wigeon]

quell 4% on gun critical hit is wild when vld was already toptier

eternal gaze

[broken carbon]

no man psyker really needed that

[runic juniper]

its too good. i want some fucking peril but it eats it all up even with scriers

[broken carbon]

trust

why did psyker get buffed in all the not cool ways…

[late sapphire]

So what i think is happening

Is that the revo is actually a 490.1 rating

But it gets rounded up to 500 because fuck you

[nocturne dust]

I have an eviscerator at 55% mobility too

[fiery wigeon]

i definitely dont mind, i want gaze to last forever

[late sapphire]

Yeah i have similar shit

[runic juniper]

thats all psyker gets. the Feat system before trees had a cool playstyle that was made worse and pointless by assail existing

[fiery wigeon]

0% peril is fine with me lol

[late sapphire]

But the rating being multiples of 10 is all kinds of jank

[runic juniper]

cant make use of the extra 20% dmg and the funny 100% cleave

[fiery wigeon]

i dont ever take the damage boost perk anyways

[runic juniper]

thats an always take for me lol

[fiery wigeon]

I've always considered peril edging pretty silly

the mega cleave perk is pretty funny though

[runic juniper]

compared to the dmg boosts warp siphon and decide destiny give id say its huge

[broken carbon]

things i wanted, smite to be replaced with molten beam (rogue trader talent, would’ve acted like a melta shot), kinetic flayer to be buffed to hold multiple charges, assail to be changed to have less charges (like 5), gen more peril, but more damage and each shard would last longer, (or maybe a subnode for that), some sort of dodge toughness/TDR talent to help enable melee psyker because melee psyker feels bad rn, and i wanted the damaging shriek to be replaced with a short ranged, long cooldown shriek that brain bursted every enemy/elite in its cone

there was a couple other things i wanted

but all psyker got was buffs to already overpowered playstyles

and it enabled boring playstyles like surge m1 spam

i yap,..

[fiery wigeon]

surge m1 spam existed before the most recent psyker tree revamp

[runic juniper]

this is how My beloved feels

[broken carbon]

huh

[fiery wigeon]

not as funny but it was always good

[upper sun]

giving psyker a second voidstrike as a blitz

REDDIT HIRE EM NOW

[runic juniper]

probably better balance than old assail

[broken carbon]

it’d have to be on a long cooldown or something but it’d be so cool

i just want my melta tbh

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-factory-you-will-never-find-another-store-shelf-a-bunch-of-buzz-lightyears-gif-21719996

[late sapphire]

it should instantly explode bulwarks i think

[fresh reef]

Is shotgun spread tightened with ADS?

[mossy oyster]

everyone wants melta

[runic juniper]

but yeah, the playstyles that plow vs my brain rupture tickling a bulwark

[mossy oyster]

or a melta adjacent

[digital narwhal]

I've committed a sin.
I've started enjoying Purgatus Staff.

[runic juniper]

its not called purga anymore !!!!

[digital narwhal]

Don't care

[upper sun]

im putting u on a cooldown

go tpuch grass

[mossy oyster]

the hurricane took all the grass away

[upper sun]

damn....

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/m4rkdoll-gif-1098643633165005432

can we get a maelstrom modifier thats severe winds

and it pushes people

[upper sun]

[mossy oyster]

surely that cant end horribly

[upper sun]

fire greenlight it

[mossy oyster]

you've heard my maelstrom idea right clad

(its fucked up)

[upper sun]

no

[mossy oyster]

fire only

bombers/flamers (no tox flamers keep it all orange)

[runic juniper]

atmo shield "malfunction"

[upper sun]

🤔

[mossy oyster]

now that flamer tanks explode

[upper sun]

what if

[mossy oyster]

that maelstrom would be 10x better

[upper sun]

WHAT IF

90% of the map is on fire

and you only have some paths that you can walk through

we need wacky maelstroms

[mossy oyster]

bro wants a mario level

[upper sun]

i want something with carapace poxwalkers

yes

[carmine agate]

you have 200 minigame to clear in the map

[mossy oyster]

the floor is lava

[upper sun]

YES

[mossy oyster]

im waiting for tox barrels

or yknow

[upper sun]

i want a maelstrom with friendly fire

[mossy oyster]

for them to fucking make tox flamers actually corrupt

then they could be a walking corruption barrel

[runic juniper]

only with the fire damage patch that made it kill you in 3 ticks

[fiery wigeon]

nO

[upper sun]

i want a maelstrom with all of the player buffs but 100% of the enemies are non weakened bosses

[carmine agate]

fires shit that slows u down

[fiery wigeon]

LMFAO

[upper sun]

make them unwinable idc

i wanna see wacky stuff

[mossy oyster]

reminds me of tank run

modifier from l4d2

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[fiery wigeon]

here the ambush music start playing and 40 chaos spawn charge at you

[mossy oyster]

im surprised there hasnt been any like

[upper sun]

idk if the game can support that

[mossy oyster]

specials only

[upper sun]

lets say 20 chaos spawns

gun and engaging

[mossy oyster]

there should be a modifier thats only elites/specials and has higher boss spawn rate

I-II basically

[fiery wigeon]

specials only would be really cool

[carmine agate]

the lower cd on specials gonna be wild

[mossy oyster]

wave of monstro specialists but its only specialists/elites

and then bosses whenever they spawn or show up

[slate oasis]

perilous combustion would go even more crazy on specials only

[upper sun]

also vox version of I'm still standing plays on loop

[jovial juniper]

[radiant lance]

What are the best blessings on Force Sword these days?

[fiery wigeon]

indeed

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletonburning-gif-64693839350527709

[jovial juniper]

Uncanny Slaughterer
And Uncanny Slaughterer
And Uncanny Deflector

[upper sun]

which

[fiery wigeon]

the usual uncanny and riposte afaik

[upper sun]

deimos is uncanny+w/e

[mossy oyster]

uncanny executor

[upper sun]

illisi is slaughter+w/e

[carmine agate]

its uncanny how similar they all are

[upper sun]

with purge right?

[mossy oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[upper sun]

RIGHT?

[radiant lance]

Illisi and Deimos

[mossy oyster]

infernus laspistol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[upper sun]

ye what we posted above

[fiery wigeon]

illisi and deimos are very different weapons

for one, one of them is actually good

:)

[upper sun]

slaughter is key for illisi and uncanny is key for deimos

[jovial juniper]

But fr though
I've never seen half of those modifiers

[mossy oyster]

ember would be so peak

[radiant lance]

And the other one for each is w/e?

[mossy oyster]

heretical disruption would make people shit

people already shit with only 1 grim

[upper sun]

second one is your choice between deflector unstable power shred maybe precog and the other one(also slaughter for deimos and uncanny for illisi)

[radiant lance]

so could just do slaughter + uncanny

[runic juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1181711723359641600/Burning_Alive.mp4?ex=6708f28d&is=6707a10d&hm=d2f616fc7a0567dfb86acb3d0db14164dd16ce123361726c1d029ebc8fc4ec29&

[mossy oyster]

I just want to imagine

level is on fire

what the fuck would that even look like

lmfao

[upper sun]

executor can have a nice meme build factor for deimos

uncanny+executor works nice on fire staff

[fiery wigeon]

i just run uncanny + shred/precog deimos and that shit goes hard

what does executor do

[runic juniper]

power on chained weakspot

[upper sun]

more power on repeated weakspot hits

[mossy oyster]

what slaughterer and headtaker does

[upper sun]

BUT

[mossy oyster]

but on weakspot

[upper sun]

BUT

[mossy oyster]

and you can drop it on a miss

[upper sun]

but

[mossy oyster]

like shred

[runic juniper]

and is worse

[mossy oyster]

I ran uncanny/executor mk6 knife for a while

its pretty fun

[upper sun]

deimos special onweakspots gives you 4 stacks of uncanny+executor

so it can amp soulblaze damage a lot

[fiery wigeon]

ooh

[runic juniper]

the one shot crusher at 0 stacks potential lol

that's such a funny tech I've used like twice

[mossy oyster]

this is why evisc needs uncanny/executor

instant 5 stacks off a chainsaw weakspot hit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[fresh reef]

Anyone enjoying Showstopper?

[mossy oyster]

(it sucks and will never get buffed)

[jovial juniper]

Uncanny Opportunist for redundancy purposes

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-statue-punch-yakuza-kiwami-yakuza-gif-18284709

[runic juniper]

when i notice it, I notice it not exploding jack shit a lot though

[mossy oyster]

i wish opportunist like

remotely was good or at least made sense on the eviscerator

[fresh reef]

Just gotta gamble harder

20% chance on top of having to kill with direct damage sucks nuts

[mossy oyster]

that doesnt make it better even if you had a 100% explosion rate

[runic juniper]

I notice the explosion with just the dot sometimes, and it feels impossible to proc in psykanarium sometimes

[fresh reef]

The only way I got it to proc was when I spawned in like 40 maulers just to watch the fireworks

[slender coyote]

which mission is power matrix i forgor

[runic juniper]

If it goes off in a good place with max blaze away stacks it's huge though

[fresh reef]

I got like, maybe 6 procs and they all did jack diddly

[fresh reef]

Cryonic rod!

[slate oasis]

wait are ember and heretical disruption modifiers they plan to implement?

[jovial juniper]

It's a whatever burger on the Mk15
Still curious if it would pair with bloodletter on the mk3

[mossy oyster]

you can try grievous wounds mk3

and H1

[jovial juniper]

We don't know if they are going to implant
But it's probably data mined

[mossy oyster]

also bloodletter on mk3 or mk15 is just cursed

considering chaxe can just max stack bleed with their bloodletter instead

not a fan

(of evisc bloodletter)

[jovial juniper]

Like we had some hidden blessings then boom
Unlocked and Loaded brought them

[gray kelp]

doing my first quickplays after a long hiatus and I just did a malice run where both ogryns took >2k damage hell yeah we're so back

*heresy

[slate oasis]

I hope they do. I love how blunt "level is on fire" is lol

[runic juniper]

planned to at one point probably, I know the elite resistance and extra ammo less healing ones were leaked before they released for their short lifespan

[runic juniper]

average reject objective

[mossy oyster]

fatshark events

[fresh reef]

2.5k plasteel for 10 scriptures

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-gif-25380602

[jovial juniper]

[paper ember]

Ok guys, this is for a purgatus staff build. I like shield, taking wall or bubble does not matter, depends on the map/mission.

question is : i got 3 points left. What do i do ?

[nocturne dust]

EP on purg? 🤔

[paper ember]

The flamer

[nocturne dust]

How much do you like BB?

[nocturne dust]

Flame them back

[paper ember]

I like helping people

[nocturne dust]

lmb stuns

[slender coyote]

Bro i was mid mission and my cat pressed the power button on my PC and then panicked and disconnected my headphones

[nocturne dust]

Here's what I would recommend given your odd choices. You can maximize BB this way, deploy shield, and still use purgatus. It's not really a maximized purge build and I would never take this over warp siphon purge with BB how it is, but you can make this work. Anticipation is a bit questionable and you can drop it and the transition node to it for quell speed on the bottom left (solidity) or something else

[narrow herald]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c397648-c43f-404d-85e1-95dd3e9a6fba/pyro-3?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[nocturne dust]

Warp expenditure is a lot worse than mettle for toughness on purge, and battle meditation isn't super useful since purge doesn't create a lot of peril

[paper ember]

Thx both of you

[narrow herald]

Purge gives u a lot of free points that you can move around

If you are using shield instead of vent like I am you can remove some of the top points to be used somewhere else, like more toughness

[nocturne dust]

Only if you go for EP, if you go for warp siphon (which does buff soulblaze) it's the same as any staff build

[split lance]

What’s that

Already have

[narrow herald]

Yeah but if you go warp you have no long range

[nocturne dust]

You don't need long range

[narrow herald]

I've seen people going Empyric

[nocturne dust]

BB even with EP is a problem, as a purge build you want your staff out all the time

[wooden flare]

Aren’t there nodes in the tree that buff the staff?

[nocturne dust]

BB just takes too long and should be a last resort, any investment into it is, in my opinion, a bit of a trap

[plucky flax]

Based

[nocturne dust]

Yes? Wdym?

[nocturne dust]

Unbuffed BB works for the occasional sniper, buffed BB doesn't work for a horde of them anyway

[split lance]

When I drank it I got sick tho

[wooden flare]

I mean aren’t there nodes that makes using the force staves better. Nodes directly designed to improve them in some form

[plucky flax]

Ep bb when you want to kill monsters in the maelstrom

[plucky flax]

Weak immune system

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yes? Warp damage is largely staff damage. There are some exceptions, but largely.

[split lance]

It also burns to pee now

[wooden flare]

These nodes

[narrow herald]

OK good luck on shock trooper

[nocturne dust]

Don't take purge into shock trooper

Or bring a sword

Like any purge build

lol

BB won't do crap on shock troopers either

[narrow herald]

"don't need long range"
shows a hypothetical of using BB

Nah I'm done :🚶

[plucky flax]

Huh

[nocturne dust]

lol

[plucky flax]

I use bb and flayer to buff my burga

[paper ember]

@nocturne dust ok let’s say i go warp siphon with wall/bubble. can u show me what it would look like ?

[wooden flare]

These nodes directly mention force staves don’t they? I’m not going crazy?

I can’t check as I’m in class right now

[nocturne dust]

Only very few, most say warp damage

[nocturne dust]

This is what I run (changed to run walls, normally I run bubble or shriek)

[lethal lagoon]

The only bubble user I respect

[narrow herald]

Why u respect them?

[lethal lagoon]

[narrow herald]

[plucky flax]

Flayer is meta now

Veri cool only proc on good targets

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah flayer kinda dummy thicc atm.

[nocturne dust]

Oh right, I think I dropped empathic for flayer

[paper ember]

It appears BB is only taken as a requirement right ?

[lethal lagoon]

Did you notice that if flayer kills a surge target, the primary chain target changes?

[narrow herald]

"you don't need long range" mf now wants empathic

[lethal lagoon]

So it doesn't matter if flayer procs on the first or second target

[narrow herald]

Smh my head

[nocturne dust]

Pretty much, you want to be not using it as much as possible. If you have to use it at all, your allies sad.

[nocturne dust]

Just dodge 🤷‍♂️

Dodge and slide into range

as the God Emperor intended

[plucky flax]

I don't use flayer on surge.

I need my smite.

[narrow herald]

OK troll 👌

[lethal lagoon]

You need to try it at least once

[nocturne dust]

Lol

[lethal lagoon]

You need to.

[plucky flax]

I did it's disgusting

So much fucking damage

[narrow herald]

Let me dodge and slide to a sniper on a ledge hang on guys

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus range is surprising

[narrow herald]

I got this

Trust

[nocturne dust]

You can often hit things on ledges with rmb

[narrow herald]

Cope

Seathe

[nocturne dust]

even if you can't, you do still have BB

[kindred edge]

I mean, if it's one sniper on a ledge that's what BB is for

[nocturne dust]

unbuffed BB works fine for lone snipers

[kindred edge]

But it won't help vs a gunner squad

[narrow herald]

Guys why bother using a weapon in the first place just melee every thing smh

[narrow herald]

Cool so you agree with me 🤝

Got that sorted

[plucky flax]

Flayer surge no melee used at all. The 1 kill was from burster push
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1293173237244497940/image.png?ex=670668ed&is=6705176d&hm=093c850fd5720e3eae2aba6621e7261c23ba88542728e1ae5095dda2fe76d92e&

[nocturne dust]

What, that you should take BB with purge? Yes.

[upper sun]

creatine but for horses

[nocturne dust]

That you should take EP? No.

Lol.

[plucky flax]

I just spam surge right click the whole map

[narrow herald]

"you do not need long range"

[upper sun]

they sell it in big tubs

its very cheap

[nocturne dust]

I'm sorry I exaggerated and you can't understand that

[upper sun]

100 usd for 25lb of creatine

[kindred edge]

Damn, how long does it take to go through that much lol

[upper sun]

a year?

idk

but creatine good

[plucky flax]

2 weeks tren is a machine

Boi is big

[nocturne dust]

Eh, I dun like creatine

[upper sun]

ban

[narrow herald]

Nice move on the goal post, you should go work for soccer stadiums they need someone like you to prep the field for games 👍🏻

[nocturne dust]

but maybe that's why I am not buff, only mildly muscled

[upper sun]

creatine used to be 2.50 euro for a tube of the stuff you put in water

now its 4

i am NOT made of money

[nocturne dust]

Bro, you're the one that thinks I set a goalpost 💀

[plucky flax]

You don't need creatine if you eat good.

[upper sun]

im buying the horse chow

[narrow herald]

"no u" oh your 12 too, nice 👍🏻

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotoritoken-kounotori-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676340

[upper sun]

IM BUYING THE HORSE CHOW

HORSE CREATINE AND MONKEY PELLETS

[nocturne dust]

I eat better than most people but that's not hard

I still love me my candeh

[upper sun]

better =/= cheaper

[narrow herald]

Gimmie

[upper sun]

google it

i swear to god more price hikes and im moving to corpse startch

[nocturne dust]

Stay mad

[upper sun]

idfc theres enough homeless people

[late sapphire]

are you getting the horse electrolytes as well?

[upper sun]

nah

[late sapphire]

idk i get creatine at about a tenner for a pound it's ok

[upper sun]

salt is enough

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if you got horse legs for eating horse chow

[upper sun]

salt and breaking powder is goated

i already have horse legs

[kindred edge]

Get absolutely hoofed

[upper sun]

i need better upper body

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/shower-thoughts-nick-offerman-reddit-centaur-half-centaur-gif-3550181

[narrow herald]

Mad, nah I'm enjoying this

[upper sun]

SCAB IS UP

wait nvm its heresy scab

😭

[narrow herald]

Seeing a troll squirm is it's own reward 😎

[upper sun]

i dont wanna play any of the maps up

[nocturne dust]

I believe you.

[plucky flax]

Siblings stop crying.

Just spam smite the whole game and win.

[nocturne dust]

No, I keep hearing the thoughts of Tiktok 😭

The brain rot is setting in

[narrow herald]

This is fun tho 🍿

When the troll starts defaulting to "u mad?" you know it's about to get good

[upper sun]

3 psyker 1 ogryn gloriana

lets go?

does flayer proc on soulblaze?

[narrow herald]

Gunlugger Ogryns creaming in pants all over the world rn 😩

[nocturne dust]

When the troll starts defaulting to "stop moving the goalpost" you know it's about to get good

https://tenor.com/view/wink-eye-wink-gif-12352742718877841322

[narrow herald]

Another "no u" keep going 🍿

[nocturne dust]

no u

[narrow herald]

Gotem

[plucky flax]

Nein

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-stephen-a-smith-gif-13112895

[digital hill]

Saltier than a can of pringles, but I guess centaur people are really into salt too.

[nocturne dust]

Centaur people probably have the stomach for it

[upper sun]

ok

[narrow herald]

literally uses the phrase: "u mad?"

Thinks I'm the troll, oh shit u got me

[upper sun]

game wouldnt swap on a burster

i leave

[narrow herald]

Wait how are you chatting here and playing the game at the same time? 🤔

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-pew-deal-with-it-finger-pistol-gif-18056062

[upper sun]

i just left

[nocturne dust]

F

[narrow herald]

😔

What happened to the dream team?

[nocturne dust]

lag

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[upper sun]

my weapons dont swap

[upper sun]

i leave the mission

ITS THAT SHRIMPLE

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[upper sun]

IDC

If the game doesnt let me swap

i leave

[radiant frigate]

sticky fingers

Death

[kindred edge]

Not the game's fault, though? You were finishing your cast animation.

[sturdy mantle]

why are all the psykers communists. cant go half a mission without my operative going "eating human flesh is wrong" or "The emperor did not want to be worshipped"

[upper sun]

it should still swap

i was hammering q

[nocturne dust]

use numbers

more reliable

[radiant frigate]

hammer 1

[upper sun]

too far

😭

[kindred edge]

I bound melee to mouse wheel up and ranged to down

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[upper sun]

ok that one ur right about

but seriously bs like that happens i leave

i dont care if medicae is close

[kindred edge]

Man, I don't quit ever.

Well, if the baby wakes up or something

[upper sun]

nah losing or dying idc

[kindred edge]

but not because of anything in game

[upper sun]

but if bullshit happens i leave

SHRIMPLE

[nocturne dust]

I think I've only quit twice, once was an emergency and the other I was lagging so hard I couldn't even attack

[narrow herald]

Me when when when when..... When

[narrow herald]

Sounds about right, especially with how they are treated in the Imperium

[upper sun]

also counts as bullshit

[upper sun]

stophavingfun.jpg

[runic juniper]

imagine not needing a mod to reliable swap weapons

[upper sun]

archivum

anyone wanna play?

[kindred edge]

Nobody is having a good time in the Imperium lol. It's a fucking nightmare setting.

[narrow herald]

True but Psykers have it much worse

Life is about taking Ls but some people take more Ls than others

[sturdy mantle]

have they ever heard of BOOTSTRAPS. my father worked at the shit goo factory on mesteria prime and he LOVED IT. and when he died at the age of EIGHTEEN, i was there to PICK UP HIS SLACK

[narrow herald]

Ima Venezuela ur IPhone 😩

[wooden flare]

I once Zealot’d so hard I Desync’d and couldn’t hurt or be hurt

twice

[digital hill]

All the normie mortals and the psykers are just fodder for the Astartes to throw into the meat grinder.

[nocturne dust]

It's all just Khorne anyway.

[wooden flare]

Oops! All Poxwalkers

[upper sun]

actually speak of that

[sturdy mantle]

voovoozwayla

[upper sun]

anyone know any good books on librarians?

[digital hill]

Hm.

[upper sun]

i wanna read about cool space marine psykers

and do NOT say souldrinkers

[sturdy mantle]

that like... their whole job

[upper sun]

they staff bonk

[digital hill]

Can't think one off the top of my head, except the Grey Knight books.

They're all psykers technically.

[narrow herald]

1984 Tianamen Skibiti Toilet 🗿

[upper sun]

🤔

maybe

[digital hill]

Ya I think they have a librarian in the squad? Isn't the focus, though

[nocturne dust]

Aren't they kinda specifically not psykers mostly?

[digital hill]

Nah. They're psykers.

[sturdy mantle]

ALL LIBRARIANS DO IS BOOKS IT IS EASY TO FIND IT. YOU WILL NOT NEED OUR HELP

[digital hill]

All of them have latent potential.

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhmmmm, I feel like that's wrong but I don't care enough to check.

So I agree

[sturdy mantle]

"okay sah"

[digital hill]

They're given psycho-surgery to erase their personalities and they basically grow a person around it, reinforce them with blessed metal nonsense layered into their bodies.

Pretty nuts.

[fresh reef]

Got pounced by a silent hound, while in line of sight of our rumbler using ogryn for over 15 seconds, then got instakilled by a burster while the hound was still on me without any of my teammates made an effort while the only thing around me was lesser ranged

Was I justified in leaving that match?

[nocturne dust]

No

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

You carry the weaklings or you die with the weaklings

[digital hill]

I'd have left too, tbh.

[nocturne dust]

[radiant frigate]

absolutely yes

[sturdy mantle]

no, you should have fought harder

[radiant frigate]

this much time and not a single reaction? not even a choice

[nocturne dust]

harder, not smarter

[fresh reef]

Yknow what's even better

The starting area of Archivum sycorax

With those long staircases where ranged units usually spawn

The ogryn in question was on top of that staircase

[clear heath]

should stay and watch how fast they die

[fresh reef]

Like he literally could've shot the wall above me

[sturdy mantle]

no, ammo is for killin not savin

[fresh reef]

What

[kindred edge]

Don't ask an ogryn to explain.

[nocturne dust]

Did you try turning him off and on again?

[fresh reef]

My physical therapist has advised me to not turn on an ogryn again

[kindred edge]

How long did it take to learn to walk again?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-knew-it-words-of-wisdom-youre-so-wise-the-shining-jack-nicholson-gif-14741551

[fresh reef]

2 days

[kindred edge]

Oh, it was a gentle ogryn then.

[fresh reef]

Indeed

[elfin mortar]

Does the enfeeble talent work on the electrokinetic staff?

[slender coyote]

Why did you not just lmb?

[sturdy mantle]

dereliction of duty

[zinc phoenix]

so im startin to get more into disrupt destiny because i like that it highlights the mobs id never normally notice LOL

[strange wigeon]

I'm looking at my old psyker stuff, what did crit do to soulblaze exactly more stacks or something?

[upper sun]

ok

purge is max cancer with blaze away

this is no longer ethical to play

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s kinda dumb and mindless

[upper sun]

i took scab and dreg melee contracts

[zinc phoenix]

I got very bored very fast

[upper sun]

and left a 36 minute game with ~90 melee kills total

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been doing an ER + SG + DD void “get touched and die” build that’s pretty fun and very active

[upper sun]

issue is i was doing ep purge before the buffs

with ep its kinda more active

now everything dies so quickly

i think im gonna try assail surge next

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/yesss-fire-mistazelf-excited-restaurant-gif-22088135

Can't be cancer, cancer is fuel and purge sets fuel on fire

[fiery stratus]

how do i stop being bad with staves and how do i fit quell canceling somewhere in my brain

[nocturne dust]

The latter, you don't.

Quell cancelling is not needed.

[fiery stratus]

not useful for picking things off?

[nocturne dust]

You can do it to be optimal but I recommend you save your fingers.

[fiery stratus]

maybe ill try to fit some light fire in, my brain just wants to charge the voidsrike all the time

[nocturne dust]

As for how to be good with staves, it's not really all that different from any ranged-focus play. What are you having trouble with?

[fiery stratus]

im using a build thats similar to gunpsyker that ive played the most. Idk even though i have ds and assail i feel like im forgetting to use it lol

might just need some more games, force brain to do the thing

[zinc phoenix]

To become good with the wood you must first grasp it firmly

Then when you have firmly grasped the staff you must point the knob toward the enemy

[nocturne dust]

Staves want the left side of the tree for the most part, excluding voidstrike with surge can work on a scrier's build

[zinc phoenix]

Use your mouse to gently wave the staff while emitting the white foam

[fiery stratus]

the build im sure is solid, its from somewhere in here. I'm just not using it correclty lmao

also forgetting i have disrupt destiny on this build half the time

[zinc phoenix]

You want to get as much of the white stuff on the enemy’s faces as possible

[nocturne dust]

Possible. I never use DD. Too annoying.

[zinc phoenix]

Bad goo

[fiery stratus]

its very easy to use with scriers and ds, you just keep moving foward pokey

but the incentive isnt there as much with voidstrike wanting to stay back

[zinc phoenix]

Have you ever played exe stance lasgun vet?

[nocturne dust]

Eh, 10 seconds is just such a short time in the middle of an auric when you're busy screaming and running around

[nocturne dust]

No and I never plan to

[zinc phoenix]

😂

[fiery stratus]

youd be suprised how fast itll build tbh, the mechanic is pretty decently done

a lot of times you dont need to hold the stacks because itll mark the first enemy group normally

[zinc phoenix]

I find the best way to use DD is mass killing the baddies with voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

I mean, don't get me wrong, it works

[fiery stratus]

yeah kinda what i was thinking

[zinc phoenix]

by virtue of the scale of the atrocity you are committing you quickly stack stacks

[fiery stratus]

long cleave

[nocturne dust]

but warp siphon is just nicer

and the ability cooldown

[fiery stratus]

fair

[nocturne dust]

I'm already running over there for ER, might as well take the nice consistent extra damage

[zinc phoenix]

The only ability I care about the cooldown of with void is SG and you honestly don’t need it literally all the time and can extend it to absurd duration as is

[fiery stratus]

just shoot and quell i guess

[nocturne dust]

counterpoint: warp siphon lets you immediately reuse it after Warp Unbound is over

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but for what? By the time SG ends most stuff is usually dead

[nocturne dust]

For more murder

[zinc phoenix]

Anyway I need to do the dd penance 😂

[fiery stratus]

I hit scriers earlier with a full charge on voidstrike, cleaved multiple maulers/crushers

pretty noice

[nocturne dust]

It also means you can adjust your quelling and purposefully let scrier's run out quickly

[fiery stratus]

i can still use scriers with ds on this build too

[zinc phoenix]

I mostly use SG to allow me to overperil to comical levels

[nocturne dust]

Right, it lets you have tons of warp unbound time with all the cooldown

Although shriek strike is still very much a thing as well

[fiery stratus]

I think i need to train my brain not to rely on the staff. The problem is most of the time i only use ranged for shooting specials, and i almost always melee elites

muscle memory all wonky

[nocturne dust]

Actually the opposite

[zinc phoenix]

Join team shock maul, you don’t need ds4 when you can ubergib all the crushers simultaneously

[nocturne dust]

Rely only on staff

Most staff builds you don't really switch off staff

[zinc phoenix]

I do because I want to bonk

Not because it’s optimal 😂

[nocturne dust]

smh my head

Also if it's just a special, lmb will probably get rid of it faster

...provided it's one of the lower HP ones

[fiery stratus]

See the problem is i wanna learn the timing and whatnot for close quarters interactions. Charge, toss into crowd, then stabby if needed

[swift grail]

Why play Voidstrike when you can just spam Surge Primary Attacks at 100% Peril and run arround unbothered, moisturized, happy and immune to range attacks?
https://youtu.be/LkgOmEdOx8c

[fiery stratus]

but my brains tryna do one or the other, cant mix

[ember solstice]

Yall think psykers can telepathically eat a pizza like that one meme

[fiery stratus]

do you think they could bake it with their lightning

[nocturne dust]

Because lmb spam is the only playstyle more boring than smite shriek

[fiery stratus]

Idk, time to force brain to learn some things

or die

[swift grail]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-noooo-omg-omg-no-gif-12379681

[fiery stratus]

probably die

[zinc phoenix]

Because I already did that when the patch came out and it was pretty dull

[zinc phoenix]

No because they’d summon a demon trying to eat it

[nocturne dust]

lmb spam is just playing vet, but with the worst kind of gun: a not-gun

[fiery stratus]

am i the only one who barely uses guns in this game

i imagine some vermintide players are like that

[runic juniper]

There were builds you could get basically full gun use in vermintide 2, bardin shitting out ammo was basically vet

I really like guns even for horde clearing

[nocturne dust]

Me, a javelin lover

[spice veldt]

I don't use guns because I have been brain rotted and melee is just very low braincell activity

[nocturne dust]

Also the clockwork bardin class

[spice veldt]

aiming hard and my muscle memory has been annihilated by a year of playing psyker

[zinc phoenix]

Nope love em, on my vet I can’t stop using them bolt guns

[fiery stratus]

I've just always liked melee in games tbh, most rpgs and whatnot