psyker-class

[late sapphire]

Many builds are optimal for a given set of weapons and tools

[ornate sedge]

like, sure, the current ones are great (minus surge, garbage ass mf) but comeon

psyker feels like its been ignored for so damn long

[feral verge]

There is no such thing as best build.

[late sapphire]

Don't ask what is the meta, ask how to achieve your specific ideal build

[radiant frigate]

would have to ask "best for what"

[feral verge]

There are a lot of builds that function very well

There is no metric to measure 'X' build as the best

[late sapphire]

A build does not have to be ideal to hold up in maelstrom

[forest jolt]

general horde clear and dps?

[late sapphire]

Every day i see + crit chance + crit damage perk psyker weapons

[radiant frigate]

horde clear probably blaze trauma

[grizzled iris]

Oh oh I got the best build! I saw it on Gameslantern!

[radiant frigate]

since it does not care about density

[late sapphire]

assail sg dd voidstrike

One ball is enough for 24 trash mobs

[proper elbow]

IDK how people live without warp siphon

[late sapphire]

blaze trauma has the best survivability though

[radiant frigate]

unironically effective but then you're playing smite shriek

[radiant frigate]

i live with disrupt destiny

[zinc phoenix]

Blaze trauma with empyric resolve is legit

[proper elbow]

Like just imagine living life with ane extra 24% all damage and either 36% peril resistance or constant huge toughness regen

[ornate sedge]

empowered psionics is good imo

[grizzled iris]

I like Distrupt Destiny and Warp Siphon

[late sapphire]

I live life with effectively doubled dps thanks to DD

[ornate sedge]

put it with smite or bb and it goes hard

[radiant frigate]

idk 15% damage and a bunch of crit/headshot damage is pretty good too, plus i get to go fast

[proper elbow]

Disrupt destiny I'd like if it were consistent

[late sapphire]

It is

[radiant frigate]

and declare war on the blue man group

[proper elbow]

And not cursed to be scuffed by shitty rng target highlight failures

[late sapphire]

You have to kill one blue man every 39s

Surely this is achievable

[radiant frigate]

i skip the triple stacks on hs

still usually enough

[proper elbow]

Maybe theyve made it better since the last time I tried it, the target highlighting seems like an easy thing to miss a stealth fix on

[late sapphire]

No it's still random

[radiant frigate]

unless there straight up aren't enough enemies

[proper elbow]

Does it not still just lmao decide its not going to mark someone for like 10 minutes anymore?

[radiant frigate]

i feel my destiny being disrupted, i thought i was supposed to be the one disrupting

[late sapphire]

What i really enjoy is when we have a quiet moment and i can walk up to three poor shooter patrolmen and kill the blue man one by one

[grizzled iris]

Idk about you, but my Beloved never lets me have a quiet moment.

[late sapphire]

guh

what?

[radiant frigate]

22 successful trainstoppings?

[late sapphire]

I know they will be removing these but 200?

[strong gulch]

I blew up a lot. I started getting the hand of SG warp unbound.

[rancid geyser]

its bugged atm

[strong gulch]

ye

[rancid geyser]

shit had me tweaking

[late sapphire]

Only partially bugged

[radiant frigate]

i have gotten more practice with regular SG and i do not explodinate as much anymore

depending on setup i recommend it

[strong gulch]

No surge RMB and no purg and sometimes just doesn't work

[strong gulch]

I stared to get a feel for it and working around the sometimes explosion window when SG ends but for some reason WU was like "I don't wanna".

[radiant frigate]

proper peril display mod has been very helpful

[late yew]

So what build did you use here

Also martydom allows for potentially more attack speed

[ionic spade]

zealot took muh dueling sword, I'll I have left is my force sword

[waxen jackal]

Finished my first malice mission successfully with psyker and only went down once. What a rush lol

[radiant frigate]

not by much though

[radiant frigate]

that's excellent sibling, time to go up to heresy next

[late yew]

But it is constant, and on top of damage buff

[hushed heart]

Is Cleave a good 60% for dueling sword

[forest jolt]

is this for void strike or void blast?

[narrow herald]

Strike

[plucky flax]

Not finalise I am just memeing. Honestly play ds4 on zealot it's just better.

[late sapphire]

cleave damage yes

[plucky flax]

But ds5 is funny with big dodge

[late sapphire]

on ds4 in particular

[formal harness]

ds5 light spam build with agile + precog

[late sapphire]

agentchaos posted a voidblast build above

[jovial juniper]

I took flayer instead of resonance by mistake

[radiant frigate]

don't give in to the voices sibling

[strong gulch]

That was all self brain fart damage.

[late sapphire]

Friends

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-god-is-gangsta-u-ahhh-scream-gif-6349874768192364613

[narrow herald]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[late sapphire]

How do i stop my ears being blown out by perils sound

[jovial juniper]

Warp settings I guess

Oh wait that's interface not audio

[radiant frigate]

there is a mod for that

[strong gulch]

Interface > Accessibility > Peril FX Intensity

[late sapphire]

woah

[late sapphire]

yeah the mod is out of date

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah it works

Zero sounds

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-funny-gif-25164834

idk the mod seemed to work just fine for me

[waxen jackal]

Should I do heresy? People have told me to skip straight to damnation

[radiant frigate]

i mean that too

[late sapphire]

Try first, then ask!

[jovial juniper]

Oh it's so weird to not have the sound of max peril

[radiant frigate]

but overall i would say play at the level you are comfortable with

kick it up a notch if you feel like it's too easy

[alpine flare]

Damnation has better chance of good teammates. Train felt tougher on heresy than damnation or auric

[late sapphire]

Anyone know what the name of the sg effect is? found it

[jovial juniper]

Illisi with 10% attack speed is

[magic kayak]

Are you still using the same stealth zealot build as your vid on yt?

[plucky flax]

Yep it's the same still works great

[radiant frigate]

dueling sword zealot is definitely something

[stuck marsh]

yo do you think its worth dropped queitude on this build for warp splitting instead?

im not the best gunker but im trying to learn it

[zinc phoenix]

Try damnation and if you have a shit time do heresy instead

[magic kayak]

is it the BM axe variant?

[zinc phoenix]

When I do standard damn runs I’m always surprised by how bad the other people are so it’s pretty normal to try it

[radiant frigate]

is this comfortable

[zinc phoenix]

I feel straight regarded every time I try gunker

I just do not get it

Vet I get totally fine and can carry with but gunker makes me feel like a moron

[stuck marsh]

ive not tried this variation yet i went warp splitting before but i find im taking massive chip damage im definately playing to aggressively

[radiant frigate]

i don't really play gunker, i just pack a laspistol for bosses

[stuck marsh]

juggling when to use assail and gun and melee has my brain on fire

i know ill get used to it but its just when is what good

[zinc phoenix]

What are the good gunker guns now? Is col IAG still stupid strong?

[radiant frigate]

do you do the thing where you make your SG really long and then unload a barrage of juiced up assails

[radiant frigate]

yes but it's called vraks now

[zinc phoenix]

Reeeee

[ornate hamlet]

What's everyone's favourite new build post-patch? I'm just looking at the new talent tree now

[radiant frigate]

and graia was renamed to columnus, which is even worse

[zinc phoenix]

Empyric resolve blaze trauma or this weird vet grenadier thing I’ve been doing that goes left to right through the whole tree 😂

[stuck marsh]

yeh i do that but surelly you dont want to max peril with that i have bad habbit of scriers and hitting max peril (using overload augment) when i could get more value doing less assails and going melee so juice out more time

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re doing an overload build do you need corruption resist curios?

This new tech on the right side of the tree is blowing my mind

[radiant frigate]

imo you can have 2 approaches to sg with assail, you can open with assail from range and quell or extend SG and then go ham with warp unbound after it ends

both good

i prefer the first

[stuck marsh]

sorry my bad i meant Warp Unbound not Crystline will (overload)

[gleaming orchid]

i feel like i consistently get matched up with people who think you speedrun the level and don’t understand coherency

[wind spruce]

You should drop warp expenditure, not quietude

[radiant frigate]

also that yeah

quietude is the goat

[zinc phoenix]

Alright someone post a good assail sg build

[radiant frigate]

expenditure notsomuch

[stuck marsh]

take warp splitting for the spare point?

[wind spruce]

This is pure assail spam build

[late sapphire]

'please' ?

[radiant frigate]

The Long Gaze™️

[cosmic sparrow]

can someone tell me if psyker is good or not

[wind spruce]

This is my current recon las guns build

It fucks

[wind spruce]

Bruh...

Yes it's good

[ornate sedge]

psyker is good

[cosmic sparrow]

half of the games that me and my friend play we get double psykers and they always feed

[radiant frigate]

very powerful but somewhat brittle compared to the other classes

[cosmic sparrow]

so im genuinely curious

[jovial juniper]

red circle with Lebron James

[ornate sedge]

well, good psykers are effective

[gleaming orchid]

psyker is hard to play for me

[ornate sedge]

psykers that think they are zealots are ineffective

[gleaming orchid]

coming from a vet background

[cosmic sparrow]

must be that the psykers we get have 0 awareness

[radiant frigate]

i like my melee okay

[ornate sedge]

just stay back and support. horde clear, shield, that sort of thing

[cosmic sparrow]

half of them have 2 wounds as well

it's so annoying

[wind spruce]

I am a zyker, thank you

[radiant frigate]

i sleep

[wind spruce]

Absolutely do not do this

[stuck marsh]

awesome thank you!

[wind spruce]

Terrible advice

[gleaming orchid]

i feel like a ton of randoms don't understand coherency / don't really want to play darktide. they just want to speed run a level

[jovial juniper]

I'm more immortal than a zealot

[radiant frigate]

just do backline support and shield smite :)

[ornate sedge]

just saying starting out

[stuck marsh]

i like getting into melee but my melee is not great yet

[radiant frigate]

:) :)

[ornate sedge]

gotta get familiar with the kit before you can get in there

[wind spruce]

Starting out you should learn how to play properly, not incorrectly

[cosmic sparrow]

im never playing psyker personally but i genuinely want to know how they stack up against ogryn and veteran

hell even zealot seems twice as good

[wind spruce]

Psykers are the best class

[cosmic sparrow]

why is that

[gleaming orchid]

that's a crazy way to spell veteran

[wind spruce]

Because

[cosmic sparrow]

^

[radiant frigate]

psyker has all the tools to wreak an immense amount of havoc

[wind spruce]

Vet is worst class

This is known

[cosmic sparrow]

idk every psyker ive ever played with has eaten shit

[magic kayak]

psyker definitely is most rewarding for me

[wind spruce]

What difficulty

[cosmic sparrow]

no offense but are you sure

[gleaming orchid]

honestly, i've been playing vet for a while and i like the damage

[cosmic sparrow]

4-5

[stuck marsh]

my main is vet but shout is so boring trivializes so much have 2 shouting vet on a team is yawn

[magic kayak]

psyker has highest learning curve

ton of people jump in and just go ham with psyker and it's the only class with a built in suicide mechanic if you go too ham

[gleaming orchid]

i can vouch for this

currently learning psyker and struggling through it

[magic kayak]

a vet picks up ammo and shoots. Yes you aim and have situational awareness but it's not like there are a ton of mechanics for vet to learn

[stuck marsh]

i love gunker assail cuz you have so many options on how to deal with threats and i seems like a higher skill ceiling

[gleaming orchid]

i might give up for a bit and come back to it later

[radiant frigate]

i never had this issue because i started with psyker

[magic kayak]

best bet for psyker is learn a single staff at a time

[wind spruce]

I'm slightly trolling, but yes I'm sure psyker is an extremely strong class in the right hands. Its not just a regular old fps role like vet is though so people struggle

[gleaming orchid]

why don't staffs drop from missions for me

i feel like i'm always getting weapons

[radiant frigate]

emperor hates you

[magic kayak]

it's all random drops im not sure how its weighted

[gleaming orchid]

ain't that the truth

[late sapphire]

psyker is peak

[gleaming orchid]

why does kat's pfp remind me of shadowheart

[stuck marsh]

i find gunker so muchg fun but im still not great with the kit yet 1 shooting a crusher with dueling mk4 is just

[late sapphire]

Is it not shart?

[gleaming orchid]

it's good if you're good with it and horrible if you're bad with it

[stuck marsh]

and scriers with dueling mk4 on bosses is just down right disgusting

[gleaming orchid]

was thinking that

[radiant frigate]

it's not

[gleaming orchid]

the bell curve on psyker is wild

[wind spruce]

Staves are weapons

[gleaming orchid]

i meant rifles

[wind spruce]

Bell curves are always the same that's the whole point of them

[cosmic sparrow]

is there ever a reason to play psyker over the other classes though

[gleaming orchid]

mr corrector over here

[cosmic sparrow]

what's their specific niche that other classes cant cover

boss killing?

[wind spruce]

We do the most damage

Gl keeping up with a competent psyker

[gleaming orchid]

the bell curve for psyker is like half a bell curve

hold on

how do psykers do the most damage

[stuck marsh]

i mean just play whatever is most fun end of the day

dont have to chase meta

[gleaming orchid]

dude i'm looking to have fun with psyker

[ornate sedge]

flame and void staff

[gleaming orchid]

interesting

time to go fishing for a staff then

i still don't really understand the gameplay loop for psyker

[radiant frigate]

psyker just does a lot of damage overall

[wind spruce]

Psyker can top damage with any staff or a gun

[strong gulch]

You can get most damage with any staff.

[wind spruce]

The trick with staffs is to be running shriek

[radiant frigate]

psyker can even do a ton with melee

[wind spruce]

And to be aggressive

[gleaming orchid]

that's my secret cap

[stuck marsh]

inferno vent build is amazing but i dont know what new builds are more viable with infern (purgatus) now with talent changes

[gleaming orchid]

i'm always running shreik

shriek?

however it's spelled

[late sapphire]

no change

[waxen jackal]

Do y'all know if the psyker page has been updated? Like that steam page that breaks down everything about the class?

[late sapphire]

no change at all

[late sapphire]

No, pygex said it'll take several weeks

[magic kayak]

I add the new souleater thing though

[ornate sedge]

dome shield is my personal preference but people have luck with shriek and gaze as well

just always liked being able to put down a shield

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I figured itd be a whole with all the changes

[wind spruce]

Melee only lel

[late sapphire]

shield ep bb is pretty good

[left basin]

explodegryns

[stuck marsh]

i got a 41% warp res purgatus staff i want one with lower rest tho

[left basin]

need to be removed from the fucking game

[late sapphire]

double shield is better than dome though, imo

[radiant frigate]

BEAUTIFUL

[wind spruce]

See the 12.5k ranged damage... that was 30 kinetic flayers 💀

[stuck marsh]

mk4 duelin?

[radiant frigate]

i am assuming that

[wind spruce]

Ya damn right

[radiant frigate]

given the fact that there is boss damage

[stuck marsh]

do luv the mk4 duelin

i would like a bigger version on my ogryn ples =e

[radiant frigate]

i would like to avoid ogryn personally

i feel like i take brain damage when i play that class

immersive ogryn experience

[stuck marsh]

do you get good value from soulblaze synergy here from perilous and souldrinker i usually play hi5stg

the extra crit chance is very nice i never considered tryin perilous with gunker

[late sapphire]

i would like the ogryn to just use a normal sized ds4

[stuck marsh]

long as your killing you making toughness i guess i just strugglin with survivability trying this type of build

[late sapphire]

held like a toothpick between index and thumb

[wind spruce]

Perilous really helps out in sticky situations where there are a ton of enemy elites packed together that you have to deal with or you'll just die

[late sapphire]

as the special attack he smashes it into the enemy, breaking it, and pulls out a new one

[wind spruce]

Souldrinker I'm still testing the efficacy of on gunker

[stuck marsh]

mans gotta wield in between index finger and thumb

[late sapphire]

Pc just scales absurdly well

Imagine a mode where every enemy was replaced by a rager

[wind spruce]

Hell.

[stuck marsh]

i mean this build you dropping Endurance BUT if your burning and critting Mettle is gonna keep you up?

[lethal lagoon]

Souldrinker is just such an investment

My Psyker Fund hasn't been doing well lately.

Can't take the risk

[wind spruce]

Blaze trauma

[lethal lagoon]

[stuck marsh]

Souldrinker procs if you lightly singe an elite and someone else kills em?

wording kinda implies that way

[lethal lagoon]

I like it.

Might try something similarish on surge

As well

[wind spruce]

I believe so but I need to test if ally kills proc it

[stuck marsh]

yeh i cant test that in pskycanium

[wind spruce]

I'll chuck on bot spawner and test it soon

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah, we ran 4 EP smikers, smite only, boss suprisingly died pretty fast, 4 creeping flames are pretty strong lmao

[wind spruce]

Mods baybehhh

[stuck marsh]

i really should get the spawner mod i never knew you could spawn bots too tho

[wind spruce]

Yesterday was one of the worst sessions I've ever played

Cursed gaming

[lethal lagoon]

I had that one clutch clip to add to my "EP smite is array"

[stuck marsh]

what would be advice if im struggling to get though hi5stg learning gunker, drop to reg 5s?

[lethal lagoon]

So I'm fine with the catastrohpic failure we incurred.

[wind spruce]

That was beautiful.

[gleaming orchid]

do you guys solo q with psyker

[lethal lagoon]

yeah

[wind spruce]

Just keep practicing

[stuck marsh]

ye

[stuck marsh]

just do hi5stg anyways?

[lethal lagoon]

yeah

[gleaming orchid]

i've solo q'd three times and have failed all 3 missions

super exhausting because one guy always goes off on his own

[lethal lagoon]

Focus on your positioning, is a good start. Tough to die if yur positioning is solid.

That really applies to any video game

[gleaming orchid]

true

[lethal lagoon]

Underlooked honestly

[idle aurora]

It triggers if enemy dies while having burning on them, so you can literally put 1 burn stack and have activation after the kill

[gleaming orchid]

it's so annoying

[gleaming orchid]

thanks jake

[stuck marsh]

you right jake

[lethal lagoon]

I support your escort dreams

Be the real you

[stuck marsh]

ok sick!

[wind spruce]

The question is whether ally kills count like with In Fire Reborn

[stuck marsh]

is that verified tho or?

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like it would hard to make them not count

[strong gulch]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

I've always wondered if In fire Reborn is on purpose

Or if they just couldn't figure out

[wind spruce]

Oooh you tested?

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly, I wonder that for like half the game's mechanics

[stuck marsh]

never know with fatshark sometimes =e

[idle aurora]

Ye, that's the one thing i am not sure about. But still, for a pyro - crit build it's amazing

[vestal fulcrum]

Couldn't figure out what, exactly?

[wind spruce]

The word is overlooked you kookaburra

[vestal fulcrum]

Or just, you know, couldn't figure out?

[stuck marsh]

i still remeber when the headshot for toughness talent reduction was inverted on vet and if you got headshot kills you TOOK upto 30% more damage from enemies

[wind spruce]

@strong gulch !!!!

[strong gulch]

ye

[wind spruce]

Souldrinker confirmed OP

[lethal lagoon]

Is this a reguardless vs irreguardless moment?

[broken carbon]

whats best on purg staff now, penetrating flames blaze away?

[wind spruce]

It's an I'm going to paddle your bottom moment

[broken carbon]

or is crit still worth it

[lethal lagoon]

[vestal fulcrum]

You want Nexus and then either BA or PF

[idle aurora]

Damn, then it's really good for purg / blaze trauma

[jovial juniper]

Yeah it's blaze nexus

[broken carbon]

ah

alrighjt

was curios

curiso

cuyros

ciruso

curios

curious

[vestal fulcrum]

don't explode, sibling

[broken carbon]

too late

[vestal fulcrum]

[broken carbon]

ker blam

[jovial juniper]

Ciruso

[broken carbon]

purg psykers

r

something

i have a coup[le of clips of a purg psyker just holding m1 and doing nothing

[stuck marsh]

the warp works in mysterious ways

[idle aurora]

PF stacks with penetration of the soul?

[lethal lagoon]

Your ability to spell curious is directly related to playing haxball

⚽

[jovial juniper]

One is brittleness iirc

So technically they don't

Technically

[idle aurora]

Oh wait, ye, pots is rending

[left basin]

voidstrike needs thrust

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-hmm-emoji-smiley-thinking-emoji-gif-17366757

[lethal lagoon]

All staves need thrust

That'd be pretty fun

[idle aurora]

Just call it something fancy, like warpanal breach

[stuck marsh]

thanks for tips everyone i gonna go play and get downd by single pox walker from behind

[lethal lagoon]

[strong gulch]

The only thing left to test is if sb ownership matters, but it seems to follow In Fire Reborn rules.

[lethal lagoon]

What's fire reborn rules?

For other people's fire

[strong gulch]

Ye! Kinda feels like fire trauma needs it with the mettle nerf. Especially if you take ER. Mettle still carries purg pretty hard tho.

[strong gulch]

SB ownership doesn't matter and things just have to die with while affected by SB. It doesn't have to kill em and you or your teammates can kill them.

I don't want to assume tho.

for souldrinker

[analog agate]

Blaze trauma definitely does need another kind of toughness gen besides just mettle. Souldrinker, soulstealer, Essence Harvest. Up to the player on which one they want

[ornate sedge]

did they nerf sliding? i feel like melee enemies can hit me during slides now

[strong gulch]

Ye. I just wish souldrinker wasn't so far away

[lethal lagoon]

They always could, you are just timing them wrong

Might be server lag

It's been a little bad recently

[strong gulch]

I'm def eating more shit.

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I'm getting weapon flickers

[late sapphire]

how much does ethereal shards actually do?

[merry raft]

what is the idea attack pattern for mulching chaff with the illisi blaze force sword

[late sapphire]

it seems to be +1 cleave target, with warp splitting being +1 at 10% peril and +2 at 50% peril or so

Does that sound about right?

[late sapphire]

Always could, it (supposedly) gives you damage resist though

[wind spruce]

Absolutely not essence harvest

[analog agate]

Yeah, I wouldn’t pick it either. Just saying that another toughness node should be picked is all

[white egret]

is anyone else having voidstrike force staff show up twice in masteries list?

[glad lark]

what did they do to gunker lmao, its wild

[white egret]

at different levels

wait one is voidblast?

is that a new trauma staff name

[wind spruce]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[lusty brook]

You guys think empyric resolve is good enough to warrant the survivability hit?

[jovial juniper]

Depends on the build

I don't use with purgatus

Nor voidstrike

[crisp yacht]

ran a voidstrike build with scriers gaze and empyric resolve and it did pretty gud

[lusty brook]

Was thinking either trauma or smite. I ran it with smite earlier and it's almost stupid the amount of uptime you can have on it

[tawny jetty]

Is blast radius a good dump stat on voidstrike?

[crisp yacht]

yeah but then youre playing smyker

[magic kayak]

I think we should get a plasma staff

[crisp yacht]

yes

or warp res

[lusty brook]

What does this mean. I started playing psyker just before the update. Does smite have a stigma around it?

[magic kayak]

smite really just isn't that good

it basically just stuns enemies, doing small damage when you could just be killing those enemies instead

its not totally horrible, people make it work with Empower Psionics for more damage, but a lot of players basically smite the entire game

[south gull]

survivability with gun psyker is weird

[brazen warren]

smite is a utility first, damage second ability

[wind spruce]

Smite is insanely strong

[brazen warren]

hold a door, cover a rez, that sort of thing

[lusty brook]

I thought it was pretty good with empowered psionics. I wouldn't use it without EP

[magic kayak]

insanely strong?

[brazen warren]

ranged knockdown a burster to pop it

[magic kayak]

with EP?

[brazen warren]

with EP it can do some decent damage

[wind spruce]

The problem with smite is that A) it's so strong that it makes the game unfun for everyone else, B) bad psykers lean on smite as a crutch and don't learn how to play the game, consequently dieing all the time

[jovial juniper]

It scales with horde density and stuns every enemy that isn't a boss

[lusty brook]

I used to run assail with EP but I felt I couldnt deal with giant hordes as well as smite can

Still cool though. Feel like yondu

[magic kayak]

yeah that makes sense, but for hordes you'd be smiting instead of voidstrike staff, or inferno staff, etc

[left basin]

voidstrike is still lukewarm, even with scriers

[magic kayak]

sorry meant voidblast

keep gettting those mixed up

blazing trauma is what I mean

I get it though, assail hits like 4 targets maxs each cast which isn't going to do enough on the big hordes

[left basin]

it's good on low density maps (that have corridors), but as soon as you face a crusher conga line i immediately want to switch back to blauma/fart staff/zap

[magic kayak]

speaking of crusher conga line, I was thinking of agile with dsiv, haven't seen anyone talking about it

[left basin]

my friend is playing it on zealot

[magic kayak]

is the infinite dodge not worth it since generally you have 5 dodges and it refreshes pretty decent?

[left basin]

reliably soloes the entire map when i fall back on my attempts to make voidstrike works against mixed crowds

mostly melee mael genuinely made me mad

[magic kayak]

taxe gets agile also I saw

[left basin]

only illisi/burga went up in usability in this patch

monstrously so, but

[magic kayak]

what changed with illisi

[left basin]

cleave shit+scriers is nutty

lawnmower with a funny ability to remove a screen worth of enemies in front of you for 10 seconds

burga is funky with the new blessing

[lusty brook]

What is burga

[left basin]

purgatus

flame staff

[lusty brook]

Word

[mystic pike]

How many of nurgles minions do we gotta kill before that fat fuck leaves Atoma Prime alone?

[lusty brook]

More than 10 surely

[split lance]

At least 12

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243893902558363669/1290106817833078824/image.png?ex=66fb411a&is=66f9ef9a&hm=6af287fb8d0efc2075351be51c7c56e26f683de33ecd51ed615afc1745b08382&

???

[left basin]

you finished the game

delete it

[crisp yacht]

i just find it boring. some psykers will run around non stop smiting and it makes it not fun to play

a good trauma staff user can basically do what a smite psyker does and actually kill things.

[lethal lagoon]

If you live in the U.S, I doubt anyone will care about smite. Lots of xbox and gamepass users.

EU you'll get some complaints.

[lone ravine]

In general I don’t get too much people talking in my games in the US

[lusty brook]

Yeah I'm a peasant Xbox user

[left basin]

boo

[lusty brook]

I know I know

[lone ravine]

(We still love you if you kill heretics in the name of the emperor )

[lusty brook]

I use surge staff with smite to get the full electromancer fantasy going. Although I feel like surge doesnt do as much damage as I want it to

[hidden rune]

atleast you love them, because I don't love my own platform

[lethal lagoon]

You want 25% flak, and nexus and flurry on your surge staff.

[lusty brook]

I have all those. I guess I'm just used to obliterating crushers as an Ogryn. It still takes like 5 casts to kill a crusher

[lethal lagoon]

Well I already made an effort to make the screenshot so here you go anyways.

I dunno, I find Ogryn slower compared to spamming Surge and flaming Shriek

[left basin]

is um

illisi regular lmb warp-based kills

[lusty brook]

I wouldn't think so. Maybe if you stroke it then it becomes warp based

[royal falcon]

I don't think so

warp-based is anything that would actually increase peril afaik

[lethal lagoon]

Yep it changes when you stroke it

[royal falcon]

like the-

[left basin]

well

[royal falcon]

when you stroke it

[lethal lagoon]

So it's both and warp and non-warp

[royal falcon]

it's warp when you stroke it

gets the peril up, yknow

[lusty brook]

Yuh

Force swords are really cool but I feel so much cooler using a dueling sword

Like count dooku

[left basin]

anyone built a scrierstrike build? i'm angy and looking at things i might've fucked up inadvertently while building

[lusty brook]

Like, scriers with void strike? I would think take empyric resolve if you plan on using the voidstrike with scriers

[left basin]

voidstrike is already slow in it's rampup, empy is ech for a lot of things that aren't bosses

[lusty brook]

Would it also slow down the scriers buildup? I've never tested it

[left basin]

what do you mean

[potent echo]

Nah just let the buildup expire and use the 10 secs after

Either that or do crack of bone melee until it expires

[lusty brook]

Oh word

Would disrupt destiny be good for voidstrike then? Can it hit weak points?

[potent echo]

Definitely

Also I assume you are going for warp unbound

Played burga yesterday it has teammate issues as before

[lusty brook]

Yeah. That gives me an idea for a build then. Using DD and scriers with a voidstrike. Problem is I've never used one so I'd have to start from scratch

[split lance]

Turns into a wet ilussy

[lethal lagoon]

It's called WARP not WAP

smh

[split lance]

An electric ilussy

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

I played alot of DD scriers

It's nice but it's kinda fair weather

Also I don't really think scriers gives much value other than warp unbound

[lethal lagoon]

when warp unbound works with Surge, is the day that I will unbound

[potent echo]

If you are perfectly positioned it's great but if you get thrown into a horde it's not very good

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

Meanwhile creeping

If anything warp unbound assail is the stupidest thing I've ever seen or played

[lusty brook]

I can't ever switch from the shriek though. For some reason I keep hearing EP Assail calling my name as well

Wait

Another idea

[potent echo]

Warp splitting 5 target assails at max buffs lmao

[dusk void]

Played a mission with smite and this is how much I hated it

[lusty brook]

Wait that affects blitzes

How can assail be affected by cleave

[potent echo]

It's affects assail for sure lol

Gives it 1 extra target at ~50% and 2 extra at like 80% or smth

[lusty brook]

Very cool

I think I'll try that when I get home

[potent echo]

I don't even take the assail extra pierce talent anymore

[lusty brook]

Wouldn't taking the extra pierce stack with warp splitting as well?

[potent echo]

It adds

Doesn't stack

So you just get +1

[lusty brook]

Ah alright

[potent echo]

It's nice too but not enough points

I rather get shard regen

[primal plume]

Staff-Bound Smite
I kind wish we had the option to turn more staff powers into Blitz abilities. Albiet have them play differently

[lusty brook]

Well time do do a EP scriers build spamming assail

[potent echo]

It's possible

But I rather get DD to shid on everything

[lusty brook]

I thought that assails EP buffs were mid until I just never ran out of them

I never played psyker when assail was overpowered but I can only imagine the craziness it could do.

[magic kayak]

the glory days of assail

[lusty brook]

Now I feel like I barely see assail. Or psykers at all. It's all veterans

[magic kayak]

Really? I always have psykers in my game it seems like

I use assail on my gunker builds for saving ammo

[lusty brook]

Yeah I get another psyker like every 10 games maybe

[magic kayak]

what difficulty is that on?

I tend to see psykers in auric damnation I feel like, and less in 4-5 when im leveling gear

[merry raft]

eralier sombody said the build that iv been running with bolter was "terrible" but did not expand on why when i asked. Ill be the first to admit it is underperforming but was hoping for some constructive criticism

[potent echo]

This is soyker chat

[merry raft]

hmmmm

so it is

LMFAO

[lusty brook]

I just play regular damnation

[potent echo]

Weapon spec and bolter is just funny

[lusty brook]

Use voidblast instead

[stuck marsh]

swaggers in here ooo looky here i can use bolty and you cant cries in pysker

[merry raft]

Duh my B

[stuck marsh]

i jest

[lusty brook]

I wish psyker could use bolter

The other filthy classes got their hands on dueling swords

[stuck marsh]

weapon speed swap node would actually get value =e

[mystic pike]

love it when idiots say that the purg staff is bad

[split lance]

Wanna play some more

[lusty brook]

Purg staff good because it is fire but white

[mystic pike]

bozos in strike party 1

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

I always thought of it as light blue

[split lance]

3hrs ahead =

[lethal lagoon]

its a silver white, the silver of course created by a very light shade of blue

[lethal lagoon]

[lusty brook]

Purg staff obliterates hordes so good I basically just sit and watch a purg psyker

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

anime is pretty gay yeah

[split lance]

I no longer have the emoji I was looking for

I’m so sad

[lone ravine]

I can’t see shit using purg :(

[lethal lagoon]

Some servers kick inactive people

Like this one

[split lance]

As long as ur xhair is flashing red. Ur doing great

[primal plume]

Is this good?

[lusty brook]

Probably

[lone ravine]

Yea

[split lance]

Yes

[lusty brook]

The one I use is built like that

[split lance]

@wind spruce lmk if you get on

If ur down for some

[primal plume]

Hadron stop

[split lance]

Hadron is mad she can’t brick me anymore so she instead bricked my gpu

[magic kayak]

Yeah my fps is at an all time low

[split lance]

Right?!?!?

I swapped to 1080p and my frames were still garbage

[wind spruce]

Maybe in an hour or so

[split lance]

Sick

[wind spruce]

But I can't deal with 200 ping haha 😭

[split lance]

I’ll play on Aus

[potent echo]

Yea performance kinda sus recently

[karmic glacier]

you can go over the 100 limit with lightning

but not any other

[wind spruce]

Wdym

[split lance]

I got a new gpu. If it’s not good enough

I’m going to uhhh

Uhhh

[karmic glacier]

i can cast at 100 peril without blowing up

[split lance]

Going to let myself get to 100% peril irl

Yall deal with the consequences

[karmic glacier]

point is

i broke game

kekw

[wind spruce]

With scriers or nah?

There's some weird stuff going on in psykhanium atm

[karmic glacier]

it works outside the test area

[jovial juniper]

I mean infinite smite is a build

[karmic glacier]

scryers gaze works because it now makes you not peril meaning if you cast at 100 your fine and for 10 seconds after

so you have 20 seconds basically

[wind spruce]

We know haha

[magic kayak]

unless you do a few actions whichdont work with it

[karmic glacier]

everything works with it

[magic kayak]

like surge staff rmb will still explode you

negative sir

[karmic glacier]

i tried all staffs

[magic kayak]

did they patch it?

I died on rmb surge staff

ill try again in the testing chamber

[wind spruce]

Ryken posted a video today showing that in the psykhanium he has infinite scriers... it hits 100% and just doesn't end. Weird shit

[magic kayak]

whoa I wonder if thats reproducable in game

Uh so I can avoid it 😄

[wind spruce]

It wasn't on his game

[potent echo]

What hunk of silicon did you get?

[wind spruce]

I'd abuse the shit out of it haha. Run my old gunker build where I don't use any warp generating abilities except scriers, just gun and melee

[split lance]

Friend sold me his 3090 founder edition cuz mfer got a 4090

[potent echo]

Oh yea yesterday I blew up with warp unbound

Some sus thing

[magic kayak]

I have a 3080 hybrid and I think if you just run game for too long it has a memory leak and overloads

[potent echo]

What a gamer

[magic kayak]

lol hell yeah me too

[wind spruce]

Permanently sitting at full 30 stack scriers 100% peril homg

[potent echo]

3090 should be good enough for 1440p darktide

[wind spruce]

What were you using?

[split lance]

His most played game is aim labs…

[magic kayak]

even 3080 can run max settings just fine

[split lance]

I wish I was joking

[wind spruce]

And it did it happen right as you hit 100% peril

[potent echo]

I think I was spamming assail and I PoTW during SG at 100%

[karmic glacier]

well i just showed it worked

in game

[potent echo]

No I have a 3080

[magic kayak]

thats rmb surge staff?

[split lance]

I’m on 3060ti rn low setting 1440p and this game is not running well at all and it looks horrific

[potent echo]

And it runs like shid

[wind spruce]

Yeah that's how it's happened to me, server must not recognise the transition to the afterburn momentarily

[magic kayak]

really? I have a 3080 as well, runs great

whats your cpu?

[potent echo]

What's great though

[magic kayak]

and ram? some of that matters too

[potent echo]

I only get 70

[split lance]

DDR5 32gb

[magic kayak]

but I am running the hybrid 3080 which is water cooled

[split lance]

6k MHz

[split lance]

Sheeeeesh

What cpu

[primal plume]

they had to have toned down the RNG on stats

i never got anything nearly this good before the update

[split lance]

100%

[magic kayak]

i9 12900k also watercooled

[split lance]

What’s the AMD equivalent

[magic kayak]

I like the quiet and plus they have some amazing AIO solutions these days

[split lance]

I’m Intel stupid

[potent echo]

What's your frame rates on a normal game?

[split lance]

I’m on a 7700x with a lian li AIO and it runs real quiet and looks nice

[split lance]

Me?

[magic kayak]

I think that's the ryzen 9 5950x?

[potent echo]

Czero

[split lance]

Nice nice

[magic kayak]

It depends on if I'm running purg staff lol, but let me check real fast

[potent echo]

I would think like 60-100

[magic kayak]

I had bloom on and had to turn that off

[potent echo]

But your CPU is better so probably higher

[split lance]

High settings?

[magic kayak]

was lighting up my entire house lol

[potent echo]

I have a 5800x3d

[split lance]

This game doesn’t care about cpu at all I’ve found

[primal plume]

Already got a better version

[potent echo]

It's very CPU bottlenecked

Especially if you get a 3080 or above

[split lance]

Wut

5800x does not bottleneck a 3080 at all

[potent echo]

It does in darktide

[split lance]

How so

[potent echo]

Dorktide

My GPU util is like only 80% ish

Depends on the scene I guess

[magic kayak]

ok i just double checked all video settings are max and restarted game, bout to go into a game and ill check fps

[split lance]

I think that’s more so bc the game has the optimization of a Cracker

But ig it could be

I’ll lyk when I get my 3090

[potent echo]

Yea which means it's CPU bottlenecked lol

[split lance]

When I get on I’ll check %s

Ur gpu is better but my cpu is better

[magic kayak]

i stay around 40-44% memory utilization

[potent echo]

Yea you probably have your GPU as the bottleneck

[split lance]

I needa enable the nvidia uhhh what’s it called. That’s on the top left

[potent echo]

Just get RTSS and afterburner

[split lance]

Rivia?

[potent echo]

Yea

Or Nvidia has its own tools too

I'm just more used to rtss

[split lance]

Do you know how hard it was for me to delete that off of my pc

Way too hard

[potent echo]

Lol

[split lance]

Mfing virus

[split lance]

Ima use this

[weary arrow]

does anyone even uses warp syphon over empowered psionics? havent seen a build for that in forever...

[wind spruce]

The only time I use EP is when I'm smykering

[lusty brook]

I use it when I use staffs

I use EP for assail or smite

[lyric burrow]

i must be lucky

my game runs flawlessly with the new frame gen

i did lower some settings on purpose for the sake of FPS

[potent echo]

I need 160 at all times or I won't call it flawless

I'm using another source of framegen

[lyric burrow]

i am getting around 200

[potent echo]

[lyric burrow]

it can dip a bit though, so 160 isnt super rare

[potent echo]

What are you using though

[lyric burrow]

7900xt GPU and 5900x CPU

[potent echo]

Resolution?

[lyric burrow]

32 gigs of ram

1440p

[potent echo]

🤔

I'm starting to suspect my 5800x3d is ass

Like it has something wrong

[magic kayak]

whats your source of framegen?

[potent echo]

It's always at max temp

[lyric burrow]

i do have med textures and FSR at balanced

for FPS reasons

so im not cranking everything and getting 200 fps

[potent echo]

I'm using lossless scaling

[lyric burrow]

the in game AMD frame gen

[potent echo]

I feel that the input lag is less than the fsr

[lyric burrow]

forget the name

[cinder moon]

performance on the newest patch has been awful

i used to get ~100fps with everything cranked and running an OC'd 9900k and 2080 super

[potent echo]

Is your 9900k water-cooled?

[lyric burrow]

i dont notice much but i am on OLED response time so i may just be cheating it

i havent tried the lossless though

tbf

so no comparison

[potent echo]

Perhaps, maybe I'm just biased

[cinder moon]

air cooled with an enormous noctua, similar temps to the AIO i used to have

never goes over 75c

[potent echo]

There's not really a tool to measure this though lol

[potent echo]

Got a model number

[cinder moon]

nh-d15

[potent echo]

Thanks

[cinder moon]

pretty sure the highest temp i've seen since installing is 71c

majority of the time it's in the 60s under load

[primal radish]

Anyone test if 100% cleave effects surge staff secondary atk?

[shut ether]

I have not that sounds interesting

[queen trout]

so is surge staff just missing a blessing?

[jovial juniper]

How else am I supposed to get 90% peril reduction without WS?

[primal radish]

I'm not at home, go test it out lol and report back

[jovial juniper]

More like surge has extra points

[queen trout]

or that

[lyric burrow]

sad that surge doesnt work with surge

[jovial juniper]

[lyric burrow]

it would probably be p ridiculous but still

[cinder moon]

shouldn't have given surge to surge if it wasn't going to work with charge attack

[lyric burrow]

it may actually be for M1 builds

now that there are talents for it

[lusty brook]

Is an m1 build actually good or what

I think it would be pretty funny to just blast the heretics with little blobs

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Good breakpoints

Good impact

[lusty brook]

Word

[jovial juniper]

(fingers hurt though)

[lusty brook]

I'm sure

[cinder moon]

you don't even need to spec into m1 for it to be viable

i usually kill more specials than the veterans just with my smite/surge build m1

perfectly accurate, no dropoff or range limit

[primal plume]

Whats BiS For Voidstrike now?

is so uncanny to get good stats on one buy

know what

the ogryn is missing too

im blamming him

blaming*

he was ripping us off by giving us shit weapons

[late sapphire]

surge nexus

stick true aim in the middle of your screen to capitalize on surge crits

[primal plume]

What about perks?

[weary arrow]

whats the dump stat on purgatus staff? quell speed?

[strong gulch]

Brunt refuses to give me a trauma staff with everything high except warp resistance super dumped. He'll give my single digits of the other stats, but not warp resist. 😩

[small whale]

i saw a psyker going full auto with a left click staff and they got most damage

[strong gulch]

ye

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[strong gulch]

It was a thing even before the lmb nodes. Still got top damage.

[queen trout]

I am blown away by how bad show stopper blessing is on inferno staff. Comedically small explosion with no damage

[terse saffron]

which recon las for scriers dd?

[tawdry hemlock]

should I replace my old one?

[jovial juniper]

Welcome to the world of Zealot

[tawdry hemlock]

or I just stick with my old?

[queen trout]

I'd replace it cause I like mix maxed stuff but there probably won't be a noticeable difference between the 2 so you could just save the materials

[hidden rune]

is there a gun pskyer build with las pistol some mind sharing? saw some one blasting with it while zoomin

also first time seeing this

[jovial juniper]

The man behind the slaughter

[narrow herald]

precog or thrust on DS? 🤔

[dusk void]

This update really had me unaffected with my in game currency, even after I mastered most of the weapon types

[tawdry hemlock]

holy emperor

touch some grass dude

[dusk void]

I probably should tbh

[strong gulch]

I'm allergic to grass, but I am also growing some in an empty aquarium.

Not filled with water at least.

[marsh wharf]

Whats the dump stat on the dueling sword btw

[near wyvern]

Blaze away + nexus has better scaling than blaze away + flurry. As said, the Brittleness amount from penetrating flames is not useful.

[primal plume]

Do I go with this?
or this on Voidstrike?

[primal plume]

Warp Resist. The 40% peril reduction kind of makes warp resist on weapons a little redunant now

[near wyvern]

Never go crit damage. If you have surge go crit chance and then either flak or carapace, if you don't run surge go flak maniac or flak unarmoured

I prefer flak maniac since you want to kill specialists as fast as you can and they are all flak & maniac except sniper which has low HP pool and dog which is hard to hit anyways before it's trying to leap, in which case you can just kill it with melee

And you can kill ragers faster before they reach you

[rancid geyser]

on fire staff which is better: Psychic Vampire or In Fire Reborn?

4% on any kill within the party wins right?

or am i mislead?

[rich spindle]

the fire talent is misleading, enemies dying to anything while your soulblaze is on it counts

[rancid geyser]

including if allies take the kill?

[rich spindle]

yes (from what I remember, been a while)

I came back to try the sciers gaze no pop talent and died 100 times with the flame staff only to find out its bugged?

[vocal socket]

anyone got a barebones voidstrike build with the new tree?

[plucky flax]

Stealth loner martyrdom with combat axe headtaker bm yes

[rancid geyser]

says online that in fire reborn requires enemies to die ti the tick from soulblaze

that's depressing

[jovial juniper]

.

[rich spindle]

there's so much misinfo for this game online its wild

[mossy oyster]

higui tell me the truth

do u actually run perfectionist DD

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-staring-at-someone-gif-24012300

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-gif-21999038

It still sucks

It's worse because the UI doesn't show your stacks every now and then

And every map has an elevator or an airlock

[mossy oyster]

yeah I know I want to damage max with it so bad

but man

good luck staying at 25 for even half the match

also do we know if ally revive speed is redundant

the more you put on

or actually beneficial

[rich spindle]

how much does it matter that blaze trauma does 4 stacks now

[jovial juniper]

Oh and my main strategy to keep the DD stacks is to shriek constantly

[mossy oyster]

smart

but that means no scriers for me

🙃

[jovial juniper]

Even 1 stack of blaze is enough to keep the timer up

[mossy oyster]

higui do you know if ally revive speed is worth stacking

or is 1 all you need

I consider getting this since im gonna abuse KD mechanics with it

and actually wanna lower my toughness lmao

[autumn smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[south gull]

Realizing Gun Psyker might be more fun than vet

[mossy oyster]

🕵️

one of us

[queen trout]

just did a scriers with infernus recon and it was stupid fun

[south gull]

exactly

[queen trout]

the new talent for reducing peril on weakspot hit is broken

[south gull]

hitscan delete build

[jaunty orbit]

gun psyker allows gunning fantasy that vet could only dream of

but vet is still much better at other things

[jovial juniper]

Well uh Vets have the talent for 20% revive speed
So I guess 20 is enough

[jaunty orbit]

dps is not everything

[south gull]

Like I might completely abandon my staff builds for this scrier/recon lasgun setup

[plucky flax]

Not at all it's still capped at 6 for blazing spirits.

[queen trout]

but consider the vet with revive talent and 30% revive speed

[rich spindle]

I was thinking the 4 plus 6 from shriek might have some difference

10 vs 9

[mossy oyster]

ok ty

I wanted to go ally speed and 2 stam regens on soyker(gunker)

but 2 ally speeds and 1 stam regen is fine

[jovial juniper]

That's also me

I've been running gimmicks characters

[queen trout]

justs slaps them on the ass and they get right back up

[jovial juniper]

If you see GetUpAndFight around

That's me

Let me revive

[queen trout]

do you also run revive shout?

[mossy oyster]

insert payday 2 get the fuck up

[jovial juniper]

Yes lmao

[queen trout]

to hell with redundancy, you WILL stay up

[jovial juniper]

Although the professional shouts "Stand up and fight"

It sucks when my teammate is on fire and I'm getting cornered

[queen trout]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

[magic hazel]

Missing blessing?

[queen trout]

that or they added too many points to it

[pine nebula]

What type of blessings are best on a voidstrike force staff?

[potent echo]

Surge + nexus/flurry

[pine nebula]

thanks!

any opinions on blessings for illisi by any chance?

[potent echo]

Slaughterer + whatever

Uncanny is nice because of crusher spam nowadays

Although void can deal with crushers well

So your choice

[wind spruce]

Heresy.

[summer prairie]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/366?tab=files&file_id=2199 shows the accurate timer and not just the icon expiring

[potent echo]

You don't even have enough dps talents on vet to spend all points 🤔

[dawn crypt]

whats the ideal perk/ blessings for deimos or illisi force swords

[potent echo]

Depends on your build

In general you make up for what your ranged lacks

Blessings are pretty standard uncanny for Deimos and slaughterer for illisi

The other one is your choice

[mossy oyster]

praise

be

[dawn crypt]

slaughterer with what 2nd blessing. and what about perks

[potent echo]

Uncanny, flak maniac 🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

What range are you using?

[rich spindle]

yesss

[dawn crypt]

i usually surge or flame staff for ez mode. void or the aoe staff takes more skill. if i use flame, then i pair with deimos. surge pairs with illisi in the old patch

but everythings changed, i havent played in a while

illisi shreds hordes, deimos 1 shots fattys

[potent echo]

Might need you change your name

[dawn crypt]

i used to play stupid amounts of hours, but my work schedule is really bad lately

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's the same. Deimos with burga and illisi with surge.

I use illisi flak maniac slaughterer deflector personally. For deimos I use maniac carapace slaughterer deflector. Switch out deflector for extra damage if you don't need it

[dawn crypt]

and whats the dump stat

[potent echo]

Warp res

[dawn crypt]

awesome thx

what dump stat for your staves

[potent echo]

Depends on staf

Voidstrike is chargerate

Electrokinetic is probably warp res..?

[sturdy tendon]

Can dump Warp Res on all staffs generally

Inferno you can dump damage as well

[dawn crypt]

whats the dump stat for fire staff

[sturdy tendon]

Damage

[summer prairie]

wr

[dawn crypt]

no way really?

[sturdy tendon]

The damage stat doesn't affect Soul Blaze

[summer prairie]

you still do less damage, people just never bothered to test it

[dawn crypt]

so soul blaze is main dmg source?

[summer prairie]

wr on the other hand does nothing except make you also do less damage

since purg generates peril so slowly anyway

[potent echo]

I actually dump WR

Because I want to build up peril to dump with creeping

[queen trout]

i ran a full peril gen reduction build with purg and flaming shriek but i legit couldn't build peril enough to use the shriek effectively

[potent echo]

Purg direct damage is actually decent

[summer prairie]

try shooting at a boss and see what your dmg tics are like and compare to just pure SB

[potent echo]

Its probably half of the damage on the first target

[summer prairie]

granted it doesn't scale much from 60 to 80 but it's not nothing

[dawn crypt]

why dump charge rate on voidstrike

[brazen warren]

the peril reduction nodes go super hard if you just want to never worry about high peril

[plucky flax]

Should be warp resist or blast radius.

[potent echo]

Inspect weapon

[summer prairie]

still can't tell whether blast radius helps with weakspot hits or even hurts

[brazen warren]

its actually counter to my gunker build to take the new melee, ranged, or passive one

[potent echo]

The difference between 0 and 80% it's like 0.3seconds lol

So 60-80% is like .03 seconds

[atomic swan]

you can dump charge rate if you dont go it with warp flurry
the different is not that big

[queen trout]

What does blast radius do for voidstrike? Increased projectile size?

[atomic swan]

TBH i dunno

[rancid geyser]

Inferno force staff: Warp Nexus+Penetrating Flame or Blaze Away + Penetrating Flame?

[atomic swan]

i was playing with mah 10% blast radius voidstrike almost a year
and i dont see the projectile between staffs were different

[rancid geyser]

i cant see the diff in damage

DPS*

[queen trout]

I always figured blast radius was the dump for voidstrike. Slightly larger projectile or explosion when it ran out of cleave seemed really pointless

[atomic swan]

I still using Flurry + Nexus

[fiery stratus]

This is on my zealot but its with duelling sword so its psyker adjacent. the thanks i get for helping people

[queen trout]

Blaze away would only effect the direct hit damage of the staff which is very low and penetrating flame (im assuming that's the brittleness on hit blessing) is too weak to really matter against crushers which is the only thing that resists DOTs

[atomic swan]

Flurry for longer firing
and i feel the quick flame stacks from Nexus is actually doing more damage overall

[rancid geyser]

was using it for sprinkle

then melee

but the burn was killing more after i used the brittle

[queen trout]

I'm sure it helps but not as much as I'd like for a blessing slot. Penetrating flame is more of a team utility for crusher groups I guess

[fiery stratus]

but then

[queen trout]

Mk4 is probably the best dueling sword but I had blast using mk5 on my vet

[atomic swan]

Blaze away works with DOTs
but unlike zealot flamer
flame staff can't keep long enough to maintain Blaze away up time

I feel its better to keep it simple, use Nexus to just build stacks

[potent echo]

You can though

Max burn stacks then spam lmb it keeps it at 5

[queen trout]

New purg update idea let's full charged attacks shoot until you peril with increased peril generation

[potent echo]

If you press shriek you don't even break the chain lol

Rmb into lmb doesn't lose blaze away on burgertus