psyker-class

[late sapphire]

i feel my braincells evaporate

[mossy oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_8deJy4deI

[hasty valve]

Did they deactivate frame generation? its greyed out for me. And my frames are positively tanking, like playing in slowmotion

[mossy oyster]

and we're supposed to be siblings

[upper sun]

i fucking hate virgil

[young summit]

Tbf pug games on the new mission are atrocious

There's always a vet with an infantry lasgun two train cars behind

[upper sun]

idk man

ive had a bunch of teams that did well enough

but we lost while the boss was at 25% hp

i like time crunch missions or mini missions

but the timer is a bit overtuned

[mental grail]

post build

[late sapphire]

assail sg (no explode) dd

[lethal lagoon]

[late sapphire]

thoughtless

i run random ass white quality weapons for mastery

only smiker is more thoughtless i think

[young summit]

Maybe people have gotten a little more used to it since yesterday idk.

[lethal lagoon]

I just did a random mil with smiker, it's so insane with the toughness talent.

I'm now down to only being able to play 1 smiker game before my brain melts and I have to switch to something else

[upper sun]

a level 10 player invited me

[lethal lagoon]

Power level him

[upper sun]

better accept and leave my mission

[lethal lagoon]

Be the change you wanna see in the world

[young summit]

Real

[upper sun]

he left

he fucking left

he pulled me out of the mission and left

did i get trolled

[jovial juniper]

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically based

[mossy oyster]

I will just post this image

everytime me and clad start talking shit to each other

[upper sun]

ur a poop baby

u were born out of a butt

[lethal lagoon]

That means my immune system is immaculate. Birth related fecal matter is an important part of a developing baby's general health.

[mossy oyster]

clad hates the train mission because he can fall off it

[lethal lagoon]

Clad hates the train mission because he fell off

[mossy oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[lethal lagoon]

He doesn't want to admit he grinded too much and hates the game not the train.

[lunar hollow]

this is what i open psyker chat to

amazin

[upper sun]

yes

[lyric burrow]

hes talking about you

[late sapphire]

They threw out the baby n raised the poop instead...

[mental grail]

lmao

[late sapphire]

train mission is peak

had a round where we all had high sprint speed and never stopped

[upper sun]

smh

mission is unplayable ethically

[mental grail]

it is so peak

dukane and kayex

[lunar hollow]

i will obliterate you.

[mental grail]

peak and peaker

[lyric burrow]

😳

[mental grail]

the auspex thingy is actually fun to do

[lyric burrow]

i like it although if your the only one who does it you spend the whole mission doing it basically lol

[radiant frigate]

one time we got the boss to like 5% and then 2 of us went into the same ledge hang, one person was already dead and number 4 was not going for the pickup

very sad

[radiant frigate]

the very same

[lyric burrow]

massive skill issue quite frankly

[mental grail]

skill issue

[upper sun]

not my fault had a smyker

i fell asleep half way

[weak galleon]

weell... time to return to Darktide after almost 1.5 years of absence.
Itemization changes are fucking good. Game's finally playable.

[lyric burrow]

yeah smyker does have that side effect

[latent mauve]

level 55

lol

[formal harness]

he's more experienced than you or me

[upper sun]

we got gameplay now

go shoot some flamers

[lyric burrow]

do i want to know what the builds are

[radiant frigate]

siblings, funny thing in my darktide section

[lyric burrow]

i dont trust the youtubers

[thorn cedar]

today's goal is to make the chaxe12 on psyker as fucken meaty as possible

[latent mauve]

no

[lyric burrow]

i need to try chaxe on psyker

i am thoroughly hsword pilled

[radiant frigate]

are they godawful

[latent mauve]

yes

[radiant frigate]

hsword? on psyker?

[lyric burrow]

ye

[upper sun]

heavy sword is nice on zealot idk about it on psyker tho

[radiant frigate]

is there more to it than just Bad Illisi

[elder glade]

How bad are the builds

[upper sun]

i just played with my first game with it

[untold niche]

where can i play the infected moebian 21st missions?

[lyric burrow]

i mean its probably better than illsi at killing elites

[untold niche]

:o yoshi

[upper sun]

ehhhhhhh

[lyric burrow]

horde is probably a little slower when its really dense but not by much

[untold niche]

need helppp

where can i play the infected moebian 21st missions?

[weak galleon]

building for inferno first. Not using guides yet.
The "maxed out -peril gen" inferno build with Blaze Away/Flurry seems viable enough for now. With Mk4 dueling for carapace.

[upper sun]

illisi is still kinda better than hs on psyker at least

[lyric burrow]

they just show up

[untold niche]

how do i see

[lyric burrow]

id say they are p close

illisi just gets uncanny

really

[untold niche]

how do i identify those missions*(

[upper sun]

ye cant go wrong with ds4 purge

[lyric burrow]

they are called moebian 21st horde or w/e i think

[prime silo]

Is there any break points I should be aware about the columnus MK5 ? Like, I have a 80 everything but 60 in munitions, I don't feel it's that good ? (I have another with 71% munition and 69 mobility)

[lyric burrow]

they have a new symbol

[untold niche]

are they not in auric?

[lyric burrow]

just go through the auric board

should be there

maybe not in rotation rn

not on

[untold niche]

evnbe the normal board, i can'tr see any

can you screenshot the symbol

so sorry

i can't screenshot

no perms

[lyric burrow]

yeah might just not be in the rotation rn but im not in teh game

iirc it looks like the zealot beacon

[radiant frigate]

what if rashad, by crack of bone, SG

[thorn cedar]

has anyone figured out if the +100% cleave talent is additive or multiplicative

[untold niche]

is it on the right side of the mission image like the other modifiers?

[lyric burrow]

yeah

[lyric burrow]

i should test this

[radiant frigate]

what other sources of +cleave are there even

[thorn cedar]

blessings

[radiant frigate]

other than wrath/savage sweep

[lyric burrow]

i assume he means like SS

[thorn cedar]

power in general

[lyric burrow]

or power on non .0001

or w/e it is

[thorn cedar]

me with my .0003 cleave achlys 😎

[weak galleon]

what's a "ds4" in this ?
Have to catch up on terminology.

[lyric burrow]

duelling sword 4

[upper sun]

ye

[weak galleon]

ah, ty

[lyric burrow]

DS= duelling sword

it is good now

since youve been away

[radiant frigate]

dark souls 4

siblings are just predicting the thrusting sword meta

[untold niche]

DeeSnuts 4

[sonic gale]

what would be a good talent tree for this playstyle?

[weak galleon]

well, apparently I was somehow managing with it in the past. That was in first half a year after game's release tho, before I decided RNG is too much to handle with my game luck.
pre-auric, though.

[untold niche]

pre auric you can use whatever tbh

[lyric burrow]

even post its p flexible still

[untold niche]

post auric thjeres only auric maelstrom and a5histg

nothing else exists

[quartz barn]

time for more trauma gaming

[radiant frigate]

a5histg sounds like an allergen

[quartz barn]

aka 1.3m dmg but wipe at the end

[lyric burrow]

yeah im saying you can still get by with not the super meta stuff once you get comfortable

[radiant frigate]

mental trauma inflicted

[untold niche]

i can't, only ever touched meta stuff ;-;

[sonic gale]

whats the meta for psykers

[untold niche]

gunker, or trauma / void

[quartz barn]

smh

[radiant frigate]

gunker meta?

melee psyker meta when

[quartz barn]

thats just discount gunker

[lyric burrow]

i mean melee psyker is p good still

[untold niche]

gunker meta if u sweat

[quartz barn]

when you're out of ammo

[lyric burrow]

esp duelling sword

[mental grail]

My gunker build currently

[lyric burrow]

or deimos

[fervent yoke]

suicide bomber woundmaxxing meta when

[sonic gale]

Im wanting to play gunker

[radiant frigate]

no warp rider

[lyric burrow]

gunker builds being actual full gun builds is just like ciag really

[radiant frigate]

i weep

[sonic gale]

was using staffs for months so this is a change

[radiant frigate]

you mean... viag

[lyric burrow]

oh right

[mental grail]

^^^^

[lyric burrow]

yeah

[sonic gale]

Is brain burst better on gunker than assail?

[mental grail]

viagra*

[lyric burrow]

no

youd want assail

esp for pathing

unlikely youd need BB

[radiant frigate]

because for some godforsaken reason columnus is no longer columnus and what once wasn't columnus now is

thank you fatshark

[stark notch]

Heyo, what's the dump stat for voidstrike staff? Is it quell speed?

[sonic gale]

got a good talent tree for gunker or is the one just posted ok? im terrible at theory crafting so

[radiant frigate]

warp res or blast radius

probably blast radius

[late sapphire]

blast radius

does not do much

[stark notch]

Got it boss, thanks

[lyric burrow]

id try and get warp rider if you can

[stark notch]

And what's the dump for trauma again?

[lyric burrow]

not terrible though j

[stark notch]

or sorry, "voidblast"

[lyric burrow]

id also take KD over tranq

personally

i tend to not take the quell peril stuff on gunker to warp rider max

[sonic gale]

Thank you, whats the dump stat for deimos?

[radiant frigate]

will i still be labeled gunker if i only use my ranged weapon for bosses/reapers

[radiant frigate]

warp res

[lyric burrow]

warp res

[sullen nacelle]

Do you have a gun?

[lyric burrow]

actually does not matter

[radiant frigate]

overall dump stat for force swords tbh

[lyric burrow]

can use a 2%

youll never specail

[radiant frigate]

i would rather not but they do better/more reliable boss damage than wizarding sticks

so, yes, a laspistol

[sullen nacelle]

Then yeah, probably.

[radiant frigate]

agony

[thorn cedar]

my quick test is that Warp Splitting is additive

[sullen nacelle]

I agree that guns are more consistent damage against bosses. Lmb Psyker does consistent damage this patch.

[sonic gale]

so this

[radiant frigate]

i do not have the points to go all the way over there

[radiant frigate]

it's peak

[weak galleon]

what's the "a5histg"

[radiant frigate]

auric difficulty 5 hi-intensity shock troop gauntlet

[thorn cedar]

cranked to 100% peril, using Obscurus left click, could only cleave a Mauler with two stacks of Slaughterer and only when Peril stayed high.

[weak galleon]

ah, that one.

[lyric burrow]

shotguns/iags/laspistol is p good boss damage

shotgun needing no respite

[mental grail]

if you have a gun you're a gunker

[summer prairie]

the cleave is a hit_mass_attack_modifier, which is additive

[mental grail]

plenty gunkers use their blitz/melee primarily

[thorn cedar]

So, additive cleave bonus. But man imagine if it was multiplicative lmao

[sullen nacelle]

Does the shotgun roll brain burst per pellet?

[sonic gale]

Just finding blessing and perks now and im all set 🙂 thank you

[thorn cedar]

I needed you five minutes ago!

[mossy oyster]

every gunker uses a gun but not every gun user is a gunker

[lyric burrow]

dont think so no

shotguns are a bit weird in dT

[mossy oyster]

society

[lyric burrow]

forget the specifics

[late sapphire]

man smiker sucks

had an ep bb pick off every single elite when they were about to die still did 600k

[thorn cedar]

be the change you want to see in the world

become an ethical left click smikee

[late sapphire]

No i'm gonna play literally anything else than smite

[thorn cedar]

also valid

[mental grail]

I am a gunker fundamentalist-dogmatist, every gun wielding psyker is a gunker to me.

[lyric burrow]

i will simply

keep playing hsword psyker

carapace cannot stop me

[mossy oyster]

I’m enjoying DBarrel gunker and agri revo

[lyric burrow]

i like agri shotgun a lot on psyker

brautos

too

[mossy oyster]

I utterly shit on carapace and just big enemies with agri it’s so peak

1 tapping reapers maulers and 2 tapping crushers

space cowboy

[mental grail]

agri fan fire is so kino

[thorn cedar]

Chaxe12 should be real good, I'm gonna enjoy this

[mossy oyster]

it is

and my agri is rolled good

[lunar hollow]

warp shitting

[mossy oyster]

so sex

[lyric burrow]

i will try chaxe soon

[mental grail]

share blessings?

[thorn cedar]

warp splitting your pants

[lyric burrow]

it seems like an odd psyker weapopn

cause its not finesse based

[radiant frigate]

chaxe shotgun

[lunar hollow]

[radiant frigate]

the least psyker weapon combo ever

[lyric burrow]

but its got good base damage so

[radiant frigate]

chaxe juiced up with warp rider and malefic momentum...

hehe +40% damage

[thorn cedar]

yea its fucking just made for assail

special deletes

[radiant frigate]

also, the new flamers are mildly problematic with assail

[thorn cedar]

lights with 100% cleave is 16

[radiant frigate]

it has a tendency to make them go boom

[thorn cedar]

and psyker loves push attack spamming

and they just juiced the PA on it

[mossy oyster]

ok

im dropping gunker but based

what a real gunker looks like

[waxen jackal]

Can the right side of the tree be used for any weapons? Or is it typically gunkers?

[mental grail]

Mostly any

some are non warp only though

so guns and melee

[waxen jackal]

Cool, I was trying to do a force sword and staff build. And a lot of my skills are on the right

[untold niche]

just send your build here, then peepo will comment

[crisp yacht]

I ran voidstrike with gaze and dd. Worked pretty well.

[upper sun]

anyone heard the new gifting lines?

[waxen jackal]

I'm not even really attached to scryers gaze. I more just wanted assail. When I get closer to finishing the build I'll post it

[untold niche]

does that mean im getting a stat god rolled thammer from u

[upper sun]

no

[untold niche]

YOU PROMISED

[upper sun]

when a teammate gives you an item

[untold niche]

oh

[silk creek]

what are best blessings on duelling sword?

[upper sun]

thammers are free now

[untold niche]

wait

teammate can give u item?

[upper sun]

took me 100k to make one

yes

[untold niche]

how?

i dun get

like u mean stim?

hwo do you gift items :v

also knife critspam zealot is very strong now

the critspam got stronger

[mental rock]

switch to stim

hold special button next to someone

they should be green if they have room to hold it

then let go a special button

[upper sun]

ye

press alt or special attack

[blissful solar]

(auric maelstrom 5, i did the most damage, he ran away and did the objective on his own, 2/4 of the teammates (their combined levels were around 150, somewhat low level) died by the end) also, we won

[upper sun]

press and hold actually

[quartz barn]

ok

looking at the new ogryn backpack crashes the game

nice

[sonic gale]

what blessings are best for the deimos?

[upper sun]

uncanny+w/e

[tacit stump]

is it ok not using empyric resolve it makes me feel squishy

it feels like it make peril cycling for thoughness generation bad

[fresh reef]

Where scoreboard

[tacit stump]

mod

[young summit]

I've not been using empyric resolve

I don't vibe with it

[tacit stump]

tried today not mine

maybe i am rusted when it comes to darktide

[fresh reef]

Empyric Resolve doesn't really do much in terms of your survivability

It only affects Coherency toughness regen

[young summit]

Real?

Hmm

Much to consider then

[tacit stump]

but the lower peril generation and venting reduces your thoughness regenation through perks

that is what i noticed with it

[young summit]

Also real

Psyker gets stupid toughness from peril loop

[waxen jackal]

So with scryers gaze, you get to 100% before it stops. Do you just have to be paying attention and quell your peril real quick so you don't die?

[young summit]

It hits 100 and ends

And the effects linger for 10s

[patent mango]

do you guys think souldrinker is worth it with only perilous combustion as soulblaze source?

[young summit]

You won't pop with just scrier's

[patent mango]

idk if i should get it

[waxen jackal]

Oh okay, that's what I meant. If it knocked you down if you're not paying attention. Just from scryers

[young summit]

No, it doesn't.

[plucky flax]

@lethal lagoon Have you tried onlysmite with -40% peril generation node?

[young summit]

Cumulonimbus build

[timid sphinx]

y'all

which of the damage boosting perks do y'all think i should get for my knife
or if i should get one at all

[mossy oyster]

erm

siblings

[timid sphinx]

oh

[timid sphinx]

wrong chat

[mossy oyster]

potential craziness

oh wait im stupid I already have that basically

disregard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va3-PF09pXw

[thorn cedar]

now for recon 7

also i hate to admit it, even as an ethical smiker (tm), smite went up in value with this patch, kind of a lot too

malefic is incredible now and its the only way to get it + psyk aura

[true lake]

am i dumb or can i just not find the meme channel?

i thought there was one

[thorn cedar]

meme chat's been dead

[upper sun]

meme channel got nuked

[true lake]

rip

people got too silly

ah well, im sure the exterminatus was justified

i just liked occasionaly looking at it

[lethal lagoon]

The bottom is obviously bugged, but I definitely killed enough for 1mil lmao.

It was so dumb

I don't think I can play more than 1 EP smite game a day.

Maybe per week

[magic wasp]

what are good perks for Ilisi now, to reach most breakpoints?

[lethal lagoon]

The IQ points I lost aren't coming back this time.

[split lance]

BOIS

how good is this?

[lethal lagoon]

I'm actually thinking of keeping my 30% warp resist staff

Cause the peril is a little tooo low sometimes

That's probably meta atm

Flurry is bugged though

And you can't use SG with surge

[split lance]

sg?

[lethal lagoon]

The Gays(tm)

[sonic gale]

what are the better perks for this?

[split lance]

im even more confused

worth swapping flurry for something else?

[patent wing]

can some1 explain me the different combat shotguns

just the special

[lethal lagoon]

Scrier's Gays

[split lance]

oooooooooooh i hate using that anyway bc im trash at it

[patent wing]

which one has the burn ammop

[ionic sorrel]

Love scriers.

[lethal lagoon]

I too love gays.

[patent steeple]

the brown-colored one (or at least, if I remember it right)

[young summit]

I liked Elites + Maniac.

[patent wing]

haha they made a big mistage, giving me a gun with 2 different dots

[young summit]

There's potentially more optimal picks, but I like those.

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea

I think it's at least worth trying something else out, but flurry is probably still the best.

[split lance]

what would be second choice i wouldnt mind trying something

[tacit stump]

which gun?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge and use LMB more often?

Cause it has the passive crit chance

[patent wing]

accatran shotgun

[lethal lagoon]

So it's not a waste

[split lance]

oh no

[lethal lagoon]

oh yes

[split lance]

i gotta redo my blaze trauma tree

is blaze trauma even still good?

[tacit stump]

fire and bleed right

[cosmic sigil]

Atlas do you have a purga build for the new tree?

[late sapphire]

what

[split lance]

ik it got buffed

[late sapphire]

oh thats what you mean

yeah

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not really a purg dude

[late sapphire]

...the emperors gift display still has weapon rating rather than weapon power?

[cosmic sigil]

I thought you liked them hot?

[upper sun]

COLD AND FAST

[split lance]

guys

blaze trauma my beloved

i forgor the tree

[lethal lagoon]

[late sapphire]

??????

[cosmic sigil]

The admins are so stiff 😏

[upper sun]

yeah some shit might have gotten tossed around when they switched from the 380 rating to the 500 rating

[lethal lagoon]

They get real stiff around me that's for sure

😏

[late sapphire]

this is a fresh one

[split lance]

this build feels wrong for a blaze trauma. no wildfire???????

[upper sun]

HUH

[late sapphire]

just add a 2nd pass that makes the statline nice and 380 when you upgrade to 500

how hard can it be man

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[late sapphire]

i literally see the code floating infront of my eyes

[upper sun]

yeah idk

[late sapphire]

its like 10 lines

[lethal lagoon]

Do you really need kinetic resosence?

[upper sun]

this shouldnt happen

[upper sun]

cross multiply 😭

[lethal lagoon]

With tier 4 blazing, wildfire got an indirect buff

[split lance]

its some youtubers build i just wanted to see what he did

and this doesnt look the best

[upper sun]

IF 380/old system value = 500/new system value

NOT THAT HARD FS

[fresh reef]

I mean, I wouldn't be toxic personally, but I'm not gonna say he wasn't justified lol

[lethal lagoon]

the 500 is so uneeded now

[fresh reef]

Your other two teammates sucked

[lethal lagoon]

Should just show base rating

[blissful solar]

oh yeah, the other two teammates were living a hard life

[vestal fulcrum]

So I've played this for a couple of games today. It works. I realistically don't know how much is Bio Lodestone contributing, but there were a few situations where I wish I had Overpowering Souls instead to throw the powerful ™️ EP pencils and absolutely explode some corridors

[lethal lagoon]

Did someone say sucked?

[fresh reef]

Atlas why are you

[vestal fulcrum]

Seek stability, sibling

[lethal lagoon]

[vestal fulcrum]

But I think my opinion on Bio Lodestone has been swayed in the direction that it's not a bad skill

[late sapphire]

also

this bug is still in

[vestal fulcrum]

teach me to do that, sibling

[lethal lagoon]

teach him how to bugie

[vestal fulcrum]

[late sapphire]

this lil thing has an animation where it grows n shrinks when you switch to the tab, if you lag while its growing it just becomes huge

[split lance]

blaze trauma tree, pls rate

[lethal lagoon]

mettle nerf means warp expen might be better

[vestal fulcrum]

I wonder if left-side centric Voidblast builds now need Mettle/PT at all

PT is kind of free warp damage, though

[lethal lagoon]

You can still get 5 stacks of PT with one crit

Right?

It was mettle that got hit

[vestal fulcrum]

Mettle does contribute to your staying power in melee a bit, at least with some melees

[split lance]

what is pt

[lethal lagoon]

PERFECT TIMING

[analog agate]

This was my build yesterday for blaze blast

[split lance]

ily

[lethal lagoon]

IT"S PERFECT AND REQUIRES 0 TIMING

[vestal fulcrum]

Perfect Timing

[split lance]

ily

[analog agate]

And these are the ones im going to try

[lethal lagoon]

I never look at builds that use multiple screenshots

[vestal fulcrum]

The quell speed increase from Solidity fucks up my timing so bad I really don't think I can use it reliably

[lethal lagoon]

What's quell?

[late sapphire]

i think thats what happens when you press F

[vestal fulcrum]

In the ancient tongue this would be venting

[split lance]

ok ima try this build

[analog solstice]

what does plus power % do exactly on the inferno staff? from the blaze blessing

[split lance]

i cant do anything to my trauma staff just yet anyway unfortunatel y

[late sapphire]

damage cleave stagger

cleave is already infinite so eh

[analog solstice]

does it increase everything by 8% each stack, cloud radius too?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah I'm really regretting my decision to wait until the 25th to grab blessings. Because they released the patch early

I might just spam EP smite builds to level stuff, completely rot my brain out.

[late sapphire]

i've been running assail for that purpose

[split lance]

play w me ehhehehehehehehe

[late sapphire]

ep smite is too much brainrot

[vestal fulcrum]

EP Assail is fairly engaging, though

[lethal lagoon]

If you are still around in an hour we can EP smite together

[late sapphire]

dd assail

dont like ep assail

[split lance]

i will be just @ me

[lethal lagoon]

[vestal fulcrum]

I played some EP Assail today - it's not bad at all

especially with the cleave on high peril skill

[lethal lagoon]

SG assail is so fucking fun

[late sapphire]

the double cleave is so insane

with the sg buff too

its mad

[vestal fulcrum]

casually hitting 10 things with empowered pencils

[late sapphire]

ok i am swapping dd to ep

[vestal fulcrum]

It's situationally "better" than DD, and also has a less steep requirement re: skills necessary to reach DD

[late sapphire]

dd skills with assail lol

you rmb on a blue man every 39s

[vestal fulcrum]

nono, I mean in the skill tree

[late sapphire]

maybe

[late sapphire]

im keeping true aim anyways though

[vestal fulcrum]

2 points and you can take EP

[lethal lagoon]

EP SG Assail is pretty nice on the new mission too

[vestal fulcrum]

DD requires 4

EP Assail with Warp splitting in general is a shooter corridor destroyer

[olive ember]

How strong is empyric resolve exactly?

[vestal fulcrum]

... a similar effect could be reached with DD + Warp splitting, I suppose, but you can be reckless with EP more-or-less, if you get lucky with procs.

[vestal fulcrum]

With peril edging? Kind of redundant, but Surge Zapstick can reach funnily low levels of peril cost per cast with it.

[waxen jackal]

Woo, first mission with psyker where I didn't go down at all, and didn't ever have to use a med station

[vestal fulcrum]

Way to go, sibling

[waxen jackal]

I hope the emperor notices me and employs me

[sonic gale]

any reason for when i empowered a weapon i lost stats

Before and after

[vestal fulcrum]

It's a bit buggy ATM, but it's an aknowledged issue that the devs are trying to solve

[sonic gale]

damn

hope they can revert that then 😦

[vestal fulcrum]

you could keep upgrading that sword and probably get to 60 warp resist still, though. Maybe. This isn't legal advice.

[sonic gale]

Still need to farm mastery anyway

i think even with the 5% loss on warp res its still very good

[waxen jackal]

I am excited to unlock the voidstrike staff. Void blast is cool too tho

[late sapphire]

4 assailker match

[waxen jackal]

Just got the issili force sword, it fucks

[upper sun]

nooooo

[vestal fulcrum]

[upper sun]

ur too pretty to not stacks on elite kills

[vestal fulcrum]

It wins some, it loses some

[mossy oyster]

clad whens gunker

[vestal fulcrum]

I wonder if Power DI allows me to check how many times Bio Lodestone procced per match

[thorn cedar]

by crack of bone really shames battle meditation huh

[mossy oyster]

free

[upper sun]

if i wanted to play guns id play vet

[vestal fulcrum]

Battle Meditation is a bit sad now, yeah - it still procs on staves, though.

[mossy oyster]

(you would still die)

[thorn cedar]

like actually just stepping right on battle meditation and calling it names

[plucky flax]

Triple elektro staves + ogryn kickback lul

[patent wing]

bought 20 shotguns from brunt

all have 80 max mobility

[feral knoll]

My honest reaction when the Zealot or Veteran wishes the Black Templars came in

[late sapphire]

surge*

[bright forge]

Brunt goes [Laughing in Rashuns]

[gilded viper]

Whatcha guys running on a purgatus?

Or Inferno whatever we're calling it

Does Showstopper have to be with the weapons damage or do the dots count?

[vestal fulcrum]

I'm not the keenest with the staff, but Blaze Away + Warp Nexus sounds like the best blessing combination that can be run right now. Perks-wise it's likely still Flak + Crit chance, maybe UY for streamlined monster damage

[gilded viper]

but isn't damage irrelevant on purge?

[sweet beacon]

no

i'd rather dump warp res tbh

[vestal fulcrum]

If I had to pick a dump stat on Inferno, it wouldn't be Damage

Warp resist is redundant on it

[plucky flax]

My staff is 32% warp resist.

[feral verge]

I dump quell speed

[plucky flax]

450 swag

[sweet beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-snow-leopard-cat-big-cat-insanity-gif-23829356

[patent wing]

btw stroking still works for me on illisi

[fresh reef]

You can jork it, it just doesn't build peril with every stroke

Need to wait for the buff to end or quickswap to reset buff

[plucky flax]

Can't believe they nerf my illusy stroking.

[upper sun]

just qq swap

[plucky flax]

Said the bro with low micro skill.

[fresh reef]

Alternatively, spam attack into a horde

[zinc phoenix]

these mfers renamed trauma

[upper sun]

ayo.....

[feral verge]

Quelling is so fast

[quartz barn]

reject sword embrace staff bonk

[upper sun]

AYOOOOOOOO

[feral verge]

Even without the feat

Quelling by default is near instant

[zinc phoenix]

oh my god everything is changed

[plucky flax]

[feral verge]

I dump quell speed on every staff

[sweet beacon]

you're wrong and cringe and i think you should be banished from this realm

[zinc phoenix]

is charged strike good?

[upper sun]

he cant keep getting away with it.......

[quartz barn]

no lol

[radiant frigate]

no

[feral verge]

Sub 1000 hours, begone

The grownups are speaking

[plucky flax]

I dump warp resist on all staves and force swords.

[near drift]

when will psykers not be discriminated against just for sword jorkin😔

[zinc phoenix]

what dis mean

[plucky flax]

You gain less peril and less toguhness.

[near drift]

generate 40% less peril from anything that gives peril but get 30% less toughness from anything that gives toughness

[fresh reef]

Coherency toughness regen takes longer to kick in and regens slower

[carmine agate]

why void void staff

[harsh salmon]

tips for playing psyker, i feel like i fall over the moment anything gets close

[fresh reef]

You could negate it by running coherency regen on your curios

[sweet beacon]

press Q

[zinc phoenix]

🚮

[sweet beacon]

kill enemies

[feral verge]

Dodge often

[lethal lagoon]

Change your name to MrMcGood

[lyric burrow]

Dodge often is actually good advice

[fresh reef]

True

Unless you just really enjoy spamming staves

[waxen jackal]

I think I finally have the hang of this.

[feral verge]

I dodge even if I don't see any immediate threats

[lyric burrow]

Dodging is v good and v forgiving esp on like duelling sword where they are near infinte

[fresh reef]

Although you can spend a ridiculous amount of time in Scrier's

[feral verge]

I think having the mindset of just dodging incessantly gives a lot of survivability

[lyric burrow]

I dont even think about it tbh

[zinc phoenix]

is this literally a trait to pull my weapon out faster? wtf lol

[carmine agate]

i dodge when my allies get close too

[sweet beacon]

yes

[feral verge]

It's more useful than it sounds

[zinc phoenix]

is there some wacky ass force staff primary attack build?

[sweet beacon]

i dodge when my allies get far away

[feral verge]

Many psyker builds are constantly swapping between melee ranged and blitz

[zinc phoenix]

im seeing a lot of things that make me think you could do some wacky shit with trait stacking on the primary for a staff

[fresh reef]

+30% vulnerability to all warp damage is kinda good ngl

[zinc phoenix]

im just gonna do surge smite

[lethal lagoon]

[tired oyster]

Gun psyker, shield or scriers?

[lethal lagoon]

scriers by miles

No.

by kilometers

[tired oyster]

Huh?

[carmine agate]

surge staff blessings?

[lethal lagoon]

[fringe garden]

Voidstrike with Inner Tranquility and Empyric Resolve is pretty hilarious. You can just endlessly spam strikes

[feral verge]

Scriers is made for gunner

[lethal lagoon]

Scrier's is way better and it got buffed.

[tired oyster]

Cool

[lyric burrow]

scriers

free

[sweet beacon]

scrier's has worked with guns and at least purge for a good while

[fresh reef]

Suppression immunity on SG is so damn nice

[sweet beacon]

for some reason they kept buffing it

[lethal lagoon]

Everything on SG is nice now

Except Surge staff

[lyric burrow]

if only surge worked

on surge stuff

staff

would be a little insane though

[lethal lagoon]

you should have stopped at "worked"

[fresh reef]

Surge staff is good with Scrier's

~2k dps

[zinc phoenix]

where my fucking stickers at???

[lethal lagoon]

Surge staff literally doesn't get the scrier buff this patch

[lyric burrow]

gone

[fresh reef]

Fucking what

[lethal lagoon]

it blows you up at 100%

You know, that like 10 second free peril after Scrier's?

Only Surge doesn't get it

[feral verge]

Low finesse Low finesse Low finesse Low finesse

[fresh reef]

But only on the m2, no?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, the important part

[tired oyster]

Hmmm... Making this build is weird

[zinc phoenix]

yeah its my block sword

[fresh reef]

That's so fucked

[zinc phoenix]

im doin a block thing for my amusement

[tired oyster]

Idk what scriers Aug I want

[lyric burrow]

i just take weakpost

[fresh reef]

I wonder if the same is true for smite

[lyric burrow]

weakspot

to save points

[zinc phoenix]

but where my fucking stickers at?

[lyric burrow]

you dont have stickers like that anymore

[feral verge]

I heard @lunar hollow has a weakspot. It's the soft spot on his head

[zinc phoenix]

i have done been cucked

[lethal lagoon]

no, you can do a crazy long smite now with sg

[zinc phoenix]

i cant even make the weapons i used to be able to make

[lyric burrow]

you are right

[zinc phoenix]

this is what i get for not collecting the bottom tier stickers like the other autists

[fresh reef]

Worst possible use

Legitimately made me throw up in my mouth a little

[lethal lagoon]

Infinite EP smite is geniunely funny.

For like 1 game

[tired oyster]

2 points left

(idk what I was really going for

[nocturne dust]

ew

[zinc phoenix]

great now the game constantly toggles me down to heresy in addition to toggling me out of auric

wonderful

[tired oyster]

Fym

[zinc phoenix]

i swear to god

[nocturne dust]

it's calling you a heretic

[lyric burrow]

man its so nice seeing psyker tree look like a real tree now

[radiant frigate]

you did not need all the bottom tier stickers anyway

[nocturne dust]

You should maybe go home and rethink your life

[analog agate]

I guess do battle meditation for that build and then… un that +15 toughness node? Anything else you run into the danger of picking something useful

[lyric burrow]

i didnt blessing farm and i got literally everything the first time i logged in

you are probably fine

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/rethink-your-life-obiwan-star-wars-bar-gif-10722441

[fresh reef]

Drop Empathic Evasion and the smite dot, they're both largely useless

[radiant frigate]

i immediately got max mastery on everything and for some things i had 0 t1 or t2 blessings

[carmine agate]

its not that hard of a grind anw

[fresh reef]

You also have a few wasted points on pathing nodes

[radiant frigate]

seeing sg with no modifiers makes me a bit uneasy

[lethal lagoon]

I never bothered to grab useless blessings, so I'm like level 9-10 on everything

[radiant frigate]

also mind in motion and no malefic momentum

[lyric burrow]

F

[lethal lagoon]

I was going to grab them the day before the patch, but it dropped early

[tired oyster]

Oh, enfeeble?

[lethal lagoon]

So they are literally all in my inventory

[nocturne dust]

empathic evasion isn't useless if you build properly

[lyric burrow]

punishment for procrastinating

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly, first time for everything

[lyric burrow]

true

[fresh reef]

Its useless if you slide literally ever to dodge gunfire lol

[tired oyster]

Wouldn't it be more viable in an assail build?

[fresh reef]

Plus they're taking Anticipation

[radiant frigate]

good news, they are of the same family so you can sacrifice for more progress

[fresh reef]

EE builds bad positioning habits for most people

[nocturne dust]

You'll still take potshots while spamming slide

[nocturne dust]

I was speaking generally, not sure what you're going for

[radiant frigate]

i like to have it as an extra layer of Not Dying

[lethal lagoon]

I know but it's definitely less, and then I gotta sort to see if I have any stinkers with good stats.

[tired oyster]

Just gun psyker

[near drift]

I do empathetic on purg so I can just lazily stand there while torching

[radiant frigate]

also i do not dodge slide

[nocturne dust]

Well, I rarely use gunker so that's kinda outside my wheelhouse. I would think empathic evasion is fine as long as you have a fast firing gun

[tired oyster]

Columnus

[fresh reef]

Statement retracted, EE isn't useless

But in this build it is overkill

[tired oyster]

Ok so remove enfeeble or keep it?

[fresh reef]

Remove enfeeble

100%

[tired oyster]

K

[fringe garden]

Jesus, Scrier's Gaze with a good Illisi and By Crack of Bone is wicked

[tired oyster]

Lightning storm or no aswell?

[lyric burrow]

LS is really mid

if thats the smite melee attack one

[fresh reef]

All of smite's extra nodes are either mid or an outright waste of points

[tired oyster]

It's not

[lyric burrow]

oh nvm

[radiant frigate]

new columnus or old columnus (current vraks)

[nocturne dust]

I would drop mind in motion and narrow whatever you have going on in the center absorbing all those nodes

[fresh reef]

Also, this

[radiant frigate]

agony

[fresh reef]

This fills me with incoherent rage

[radiant frigate]

5% peril reduction

[nocturne dust]

[fresh reef]

THAT'S PERIL REDUCTION????

[radiant frigate]

YES

[fresh reef]

WHY DID YOU TELL ME THAT I HATE IT EVEN MORE NOW

[nocturne dust]

Hm, I wonder how it stacks with all the other peril gen reduction

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mod-discord-kick-mute-gif-495505587681287181

[nocturne dust]

This build ain't doing that tho, lol

[fringe garden]

Do we like or hate Empyric Resolve?

[tired oyster]

Idk, columnus mk 5

[nocturne dust]

love

[fresh reef]

I would never really take it, but it's neat

[nocturne dust]

My beloved guided me to Empyric Resolve

[tired oyster]

Ok

[fringe garden]

Does it reduce SGs peril generation?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[fringe garden]

That's... good

[nocturne dust]

Staff SG is a thing now

Surge voidstrike with SG is hilarious

[fringe garden]

Taking Warp Unbound, i assume?

[fresh reef]

Except surge Electrokinetic staff

[nocturne dust]

I forget what that is

[fresh reef]

Because obese fish hates zap staff users

[nocturne dust]

oh, yeh. I mean you stack peril gen reduction with warp charges and maybe some other points if you feel like it and can just spam insanity without warp unbound

[paper harbor]

Very funny with assail

[tired oyster]

Ok so this is what I'm at now

[patent wing]

ok guys there has to be sth off with the shotguns u get from brunt, i spend 300k on shotguns and everyone was upgradeable to 80 mobility

[lyric burrow]

tbf i think this can be worth

[nocturne dust]

switch bio-lodestone for the node it is cancelling out

[fringe garden]

I mean, the problem with the using warp charges is that using SG just consume all of your stacks anyway. You can get them back quickly enough, I suppose, but it's not super synergistic

[lyric burrow]

if its toughness

[tired oyster]

Alright

[lyric burrow]

depending on build

[fresh reef]

Whyyyyyyy

[nocturne dust]

True, but you have enough peril gen red to get them back

[tired oyster]

Forgot to get rid of

Oh it was a tdr node

[fringe garden]

Im honestly thinking taking DD instead of Warp Siphon might be better. Still getting Empyric Resolve, of course.

[nocturne dust]

tdr ain't great, normal +toughness is better on psyker iirc

[tired oyster]

Alright

[radiant frigate]

i feel like it is time to go back to the unhinged emoji pfp

with the teeth

[fresh reef]

This one is the same level of unhinged if you've seen the context image

[nocturne dust]

Could be, but that's eating a lot of points for no peril gen reduction and with the hit to true aim...

[radiant frigate]

oh that's covered in blood isn't it

[fringe garden]

DD takes comparatively few points itself, though. Just really need the 2.

[split lance]

could this be better

[lyric burrow]

not really no

[radiant frigate]

i am enlightened

[feral knoll]

Is this skill worth?

[lyric burrow]

iirc crit chance is what you want

[fringe garden]

something like this is easy enough to get

[nocturne dust]

true. It's a choice.

[tired oyster]

One point left

[fresh reef]

Definitely if you're playing staves

[fresh reef]

Drop puppet master (right node above Warp Charges)

It gives you like an extra 2.5 meters of coherency

[tired oyster]

Alright

That leave 2 points

[nocturne dust]

kinetic deflection

kinetic deflection!

KINETIC DEFLECTION

[fresh reef]

You could probably also drop battle meditation. Personal preference but it feels too inconsistent for me

[fresh reef]

Also yes, this

[tired oyster]

I took it mainly for the double toughness

[fresh reef]

For the love of god it's right there

[tired oyster]

2 +15 nodes on the sides of smite

[nocturne dust]

You could also drop some things and go for warp splitting which applies to all ranged

[tired oyster]

Huh

[fresh reef]

Personally I would drop the toughness node, battle meditation, and toughness on warp generated

Then you can grab the toughness node above Warp siphon

[nocturne dust]

like PC isn't super necessary on a gunker like this

[fresh reef]

Along with more useful talents like warp splitting

[tired oyster]

Take ER?

[fresh reef]

Not a bad idea

[nocturne dust]

Up to you. It does definitely extend you SG, but not sure how easily a gunker with smite is going to be generating toughness

[tired oyster]

Where's warp splitting

[lyric burrow]

far right

[nocturne dust]

on that little branch on the right

[tired oyster]

Thats what i was thinking

[fresh reef]

Oh wait I got warp splitting mixed up with the rending warp node

Mb

And I now realize that rending warp wouldn't help much on a gunker smite build lol

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, lol

[tired oyster]

How about tranq through slaughter?

[fresh reef]

Empyric Resolve isn't a bad call though. Try it out, see if you like it

[tired oyster]

I'll try it

So this is what I got

[lyric burrow]

if your trying to warp rider max i dont take it

probably fine otherwise

but since i take both warp splitter and warp rider i dont grab it

[nocturne dust]

warp expenditure is whatever

[proud mantle]

is there some bug or is there no difference between the duelling sword marks anymore

[brazen rampart]

This is giving me physical pain.

[tired oyster]

...

I'm getting mixed shit

Going back to work now

[brazen rampart]

Sorry I'm just confused as to what you're going for with that.

[nocturne dust]

I mean I'm still kinda pained by it lol

[brazen rampart]

Like are you EP smitemaxxing?

[nocturne dust]

smite for psykinetic aura gunker

[feral verge]

Select dueling sword in your inventory, look to the top right. You should see options to change the mk, cosmetics ect.

[brazen rampart]

Well he didn't pick up malefic, either.

[nocturne dust]

this is true

[proud mantle]

no i mean im swapping between them and the moveset is not different and i dont see a sweeping attack mark anymore

[brazen rampart]

Though I suppose it doesn't work very well with smite...

[nocturne dust]

this is true

[brazen rampart]

The issue I see here is smite doesn't work with scriers at all.

[feral verge]

Oh

[brazen rampart]

If you wanna gunkermaxx you use assail.

With that, I would run shields and cdr aura.

[nocturne dust]

SG makes guns count as warp kills?

[brazen rampart]

That way you can smite with a good ability, but also be defensive.

[brazen rampart]

No, guns are physical kills.

I think soulblaze counts as warp damage, though?

[nocturne dust]

Not even with Scrier's? Sad, just another reason never to use gunker

[brazen rampart]

Scriers is peak, you just want to use assail for malefic gaming.

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's is indeed peak... with a staff.

[brazen rampart]

It's peak in general.

Especially with tranquility through slaughter.

[proud mantle]

ok its a bug you have to fully get out of inventory for it to update

[nocturne dust]

I can be biased.

[brazen rampart]

That talent is gonna get a FAT nerf, I can already see it.

[nocturne dust]

Some guy earlier said that wasn't that good if you wanted to edge.

[brazen rampart]

I mean, it's not.

But it inherently goes with scriers for gunkering.

You shit out crits with true aim and keep your peril low.

Once your ammo is spent you've got max scriers stacks and you can go butcher something while your peril goes up REALLY fast.

[nocturne dust]

but the true aim nerf

[brazen rampart]

What nerf?

I dont remember it getting nerfed.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[nocturne dust]

only works once per attack now instead of per hit

Assail sad

[waxen jackal]

Tips on curios? What should I put on them typically

[feral verge]

Stack toughness

[zealous lance]

what gun do y'all use on gunker

[nocturne dust]

I use gunner and sniper res

[feral verge]

Toughness, with toughness, hp and gunner resist perks

[round charm]

what are the best perks for the inferno staff?

[feral verge]

Flak and crit chance

[waxen jackal]

Sounds good, thanks

[feral verge]

Don't put unyielding on it

Put unyielding on your melee

[brazen rampart]

Whatever they changed the mk7 recon to now. The one with cleave.

[zinc phoenix]

surge smite but you forget surge is an interesting experience

[proud mantle]

any funny prugatus builds?

[nocturne dust]

1 stamina curio is good on psyker, especially with KD

[proud mantle]

oh sorry its called inferno now

[waxen jackal]

And I've heard conflicting things, can I run scriers with voidstrike? Or should I choose something else?

[brazen rampart]

We are still probably gonna call it purg staff.

[round charm]

thanks

[nocturne dust]

you can, it's cool. I like it.

[brazen rampart]

And trauma staff.

[feral verge]

Yw

[brazen rampart]

But surge staff will likely be renamed by the community to electro staff for confusion removal. (there was no reason to rename trauma and purg)

[late sapphire]

yes its peak

[waxen jackal]

I'm gonna try it out for sure.

[late sapphire]

assail sg dd

[nocturne dust]

isn't there a trauma blessing

[brazen rampart]

Run it with warp flurry and transfer peril, you can hit many headshots and effectively eliminate most peril generation for a hot minute.

[late sapphire]

no

[brazen rampart]

Yeah but name one person that actually uses it.

[late sapphire]

thats dumb

nexus surge

[waxen jackal]

I think I'm actually using your build for my inspiration lol

[nocturne dust]

ew no

Surge voidstrike ftw

[late sapphire]

yippie!

the surge crits are insane

grab a celerity stim

or the red one really

[upper sun]

@plucky flax IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH MACROMAXXING?

[late sapphire]

stim sg voidstrike kill 30 maulers

[nocturne dust]

When is it not the red one

[waxen jackal]

I already had nexus on it. Once I level it up again I'll put surge and see how it goes

[deep pine]

Link for the build?

[nocturne dust]

Surge for funny haha bbbbbrrrrr noise when down hallways

[waxen jackal]

I just unlocked it, and the illisi sword. It's pretty fun so far.

[late sapphire]

make sure you get the double cleave on perils too

idk if sg no-explode works with voidstrike rmb though

[nocturne dust]

I haven't tried to explode but I've only heard electro has problems

[late sapphire]

i know surge has problems

purg too, apparently

[waxen jackal]

What is the double cleave on perils? Is it a skill in the tree?

[late sapphire]

rightmost

up to +100% cleave depending on peril

[waxen jackal]

Cool, that's where I'm sticking for the most part

[waxen jackal]

I dm'ed you

[zinc phoenix]

this new gear system confuses the shit out of me

i finally found out how to get my stickers back

renaming all the staves is fucking with my head

[carmine agate]

but its very nifty once u figure it out

yea the void staves are tripping me

[late sapphire]

grab the name_it mod

just rename em back

[upper sun]

what do we think?

for surge+illisi ofc

[thin finch]

I think we dun have enuff point

[upper sun]

no

its okie

only KD is missing

[plucky flax]

Eh?

[upper sun]

🙄

[autumn jolt]

what stats should i look for on a staff, and what melee weapon is best

[thin knoll]

Has the atheneum been updated?

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

low warp res on most of hem

[upper sun]

low damage on purge

and low blast on voidstrike

[thin finch]

I dunno If I would not replace the 5% crit for the Peril reduction with warp stack 🤔

I dunno how it stacks tho, but I'd rather go with reliable damage than lucky crit ?

[upper sun]

nah

warp reduction is mid

[thin finch]

We can still edge I guess

especially with surge

[thin finch]

TBHI do wonder how the "increase warp damage with primary attack " truly work, it did not get me a breakpoint of the Crusher with the void , but It's worth a test with the surge

Increased cleave with illisi is good too but to see, since warp damage also affect illisi special attack

[feral knoll]

Does anyone have any talent trees they’re using for SG to borrow and experiment with

[thin finch]

SG?

[feral knoll]

Scrier Gaze

[thin finch]

scrier gayz ?