psyker-class

[pine shore]

Nothing got changed

[summer prairie]

nope

[vestal fulcrum]

As in, it used to still proc just once per attack pre-yesterday’s patch?

[strong gulch]

True aim was nerfed. Previously you could get multiple stacks with one attack. Now you can only get one per attack, regaurdless of how many weakspots you hit in that attack.

[pine shore]

Nothing in the patch notes

Shadow nerf?

[upper sun]

has anyone made the hyper optimized meta builds yet?

i need to copy some homework

[vestal fulcrum]

No. Make one yourself - make other siblings proud.

[upper sun]

🙄

i mean

[vestal fulcrum]

The meta didn’t shift drastically since last patch, though

[upper sun]

i have one for purge that im using i think its "okie"

[strong gulch]

Mettle was also nerfed. Along with illisi stroke.

[upper sun]

tho idk what to do with surge

im just gonna wait for UNSANCTIONEDPSYKER to make a surge illisi build and copy him

[cobalt bone]

Im rly lovin smite atm with the insane peril reduction

[vestal fulcrum]

Eh. Give me a second, I probably know what they would go for.

[mental grail]

the real strategy 🙏

[spark fractal]

oh what do you guys think is the dump stat for a voidstrike now? i assume...warp resistance?

[upper sun]

if u pick smite and heavy attack upgrade

[strong gulch]

Right now on surge I have nexus and surge. Focused channeling is ehh, so I'm opting for beefing up my primary / lmb spam.

[vestal fulcrum]

That. or Blast radius still

[cobalt bone]

Making builds isnt that hard is it

[upper sun]

i disagree

[upper sun]

now put crit on it

[vestal fulcrum]

If I were Selfish in War, I'd probably do this:

[strong gulch]

Now, if focused channeling increased movement period and that also applied to dodge slides, I would unironically use focused channeling, but it isn't so.

[vestal fulcrum]

for Surge Electrokinetic Zapstick that is

[summer prairie]

doubt surge illisi builds changed much since SG isn't even an option for it right now

[upper sun]

i think agent would not take EE on surge

[strong gulch]

no wildfire

[wind spruce]

He would take inner tranquillity or wildfire

[upper sun]

@plucky flax hi hope u had a good day at work now pls make everyone here builds thanks

[vestal fulcrum]

OK, that's fair

[vestal fulcrum]

On Surge, though?

[strong gulch]

Ye

Often end up doing more soulblaze damage than purg users.

[plucky flax]

Yes when mods are fixed.

Also back at work now it sucks...

[vestal fulcrum]

OK, how about this?

[upper sun]

rare toilet discord text

[atomic swan]

i only do fun build

[upper sun]

no i hate fun

minmax only

1282131238 dead poxwalkers

born to meta

forced to smite

[atomic swan]

creeping flame 24/7

[upper sun]

HELL YEAH

[strong gulch]

This is basically what I have.

[vestal fulcrum]

[strong gulch]

My surge build for now. I think it's the same. There's probably room for improvement and changes, but I don't wan to use my brains anymore.

[vestal fulcrum]

I love having decimal 80 values

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/sherrybirkin-kodachi-hohohoho-gif-9371883

[trail shore]

i see 86% on screen
i press f
fire
more lightning
repeat

bliss

I've been messing around a little with scriers and the shotgun and its a bunch of fun just blowing the piss out of stuff

[mental grail]

I've basically been using Irosks gunsoyker build all day so I don't know how to build around staffs now

[atomic swan]

i dunno maybe something like this

[trail shore]

celerity stims now increase staff attack speed too so I'm wanting to play around with that

[mental grail]

accatran recon is basically a shredder in scriers with crit reset and cleave

• free 10 second assail spree

[wind spruce]

Staffs are for chumps

[trail shore]

True chads use las pistol and scriers

[wind spruce]

I'm slowly getting used to this back and forth between using recon to plummet my peril then pushing it back up with assail/scriers

[mental grail]

True chads use vraks iag

[trail shore]

no thats chud

ReEEE

[mental grail]

Hah

[trail shore]

I love vraks but I can never make my mind up whether or not I prefer recon las

[wind spruce]

Recon las is better with the new talents imo

[left hare]

good ol ds4 and void

hows the rending flamethrower

[wind spruce]

The main trade off is less dps vs monstrosities

[trail shore]

I get that but if you're wanting flat damage on monstrosities just play zealot

[mental grail]

zealots are stinky

[trail shore]

shouties

[untold niche]

the psyker buffs are insane(ly stoopid)
i thought they were going to fix power creep man

[mental grail]

Better. It didn't receive gunker buffs, but it's better now I think.

[dusky crag]

They made it brittleness

[mental grail]

Fixing powercreep by making everyone stronger (except ogryn)

[left hare]

gunker got mega buffed?

[strong gulch]

The feck is this?? New special condition.

[mental grail]

Legit

It's so kino

[left hare]

wheres the sample builds

i will try it

[left hare]

which guns are kino

[untold niche]

they gave freaking 25% TDR to fury (zealot)

atlas told me

[mental grail]

Vraks IAG

Recon Accatran

[untold niche]

the

[left hare]

i shall put those on the to grind list

[untold niche]

psyker sg after buffs cannot explode, and then some minus peril gen node?

[mental grail]

-4% peril on critical hit

💀

[untold niche]

he said

40%

peril gen

[left hare]

lol...

[atomic swan]

i like power creep

[spark fractal]

oh what do you guys like for perks on voidstrike now? crit chance of course to go with surge, but what about the second one? unyield or carapace?

[left hare]

so i go for crit gun

[kind tide]

And they just showed up too

[left hare]

and now i can maintain infinite uptime

[mental grail]

Yes

[untold niche]

disgusting vet player

they fucking buffed PC

[trail shore]

vets are okay when they learn how to aim

[left hare]

i run warp flurry and warp nexus

[untold niche]

idk why they decided to buff PC

[left hare]

with unyield + maniac

for void strike staff

[vestal fulcrum]

Maniac and Flak most of the time, still. Maybe drop flak for Carapace if I’m feeling particularly weak in dealing damage to that armour type

[untold niche]

hello mousman

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn’t grab a Crit chance perk, though - doesn’t seem worth it

[mental grail]

up to +100 cleave based on current peril

[left hare]

tbh no matter what perk u run on vs u still cook

[kind tide]

Yeah damn those vet players

[left hare]

cleaving bullets?

it's over

[mental grail]

yes lol

[left hare]

flamethrower crit gunker

but it's on recon accatran

💀

[radiant frigate]

they did?

[potent echo]

Did they

Unless you mean indirectly with souldrinker

[untold niche]

the ydid

lemme find the

quote

Power Cycler
Now also grants 2.5-10% Melee Stagger based on Tier.

oh i didn't mean perilious combustion

[summer prairie]

uhuh

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark is legally required to buff perilous combustion now

also it's because they wanted differentiation between tiers of PC

[wind spruce]

This is psyker chat, get your dirty vet acronyms out of here

[nocturne dust]

they said so at least in the patch notes

[wind spruce]

Has anyone actually tested if we can get any decent benefit out of this yet

I know the agri IAG could already cleave a bit, so that might benefit more than other things

[nocturne dust]

because they added lower tier versions

[untold niche]

you better type out the full IAG now >:(

[wind spruce]

Yeah that's why we got crit chance on surge

[untold niche]

anyway irosk, you must be having fun with the buffs

[wind spruce]

I'm refusing to use the new names

Yeah they're sick

[nocturne dust]

e l e c t r o k i n e t i c

[wind spruce]

Especially on gunker

And scriers voidstrike is absurd

[radiant frigate]

um, siblings

[solid elk]

I wanna go down the path of a bladesyker

[summer prairie]

whatever the VIIa recon is called now should have good cleave with +100%,

[radiant frigate]

did they buff blazing spirit?

[wind spruce]

Yes

Four stacks at T4

[radiant frigate]

is.. is it uncapped now?

[wind spruce]

Shouldn't be

[mental grail]

they're so great

[summer prairie]

and revolvers obviously

[untold niche]

does it change BPs?

[wind spruce]

Why that one in particular

[patent steeple]

Its still 6 stacks at most iirc…

[summer prairie]

it has 3 cleave and the others have 1.5

[wind spruce]

Not really it's just good crit chance and you can maintain it for ages

Like an absurdly long time

[untold niche]

wait how come you can maintain it for ages?

[nocturne dust]

Yeah the +100% cleave works a lot better with weapons that cleave at least a bit, cleaving with staff lmbs requires near 100% peril, lol

[wind spruce]

Mainly the -40% peril -30% toughness generation node

[untold niche]

so you can maintain actual SG, not the after-buff, for very long?

[wind spruce]

Yeah actual SG

[mental grail]

^

[untold niche]

i sense a recoil nerf very soon

[mental grail]

I hope not

[wind spruce]

It's not any stronger than old void was tbh

[patent steeple]

As in the one I refuse to use (-30% toughness gen sounds very bad + I cannot afford to grab it anyway…)

[untold niche]

R U SUREEEE

HMMMMM

[wind spruce]

True aim was already busted

[bright forge]

electrokinetic staffs have 4 spare blessing points or did I just break something again?

[untold niche]

oh yeah they did nerf true aim

[wind spruce]

I need to actually try out old void build with a few small changes and see how it goes

[upper sun]

HI

[untold niche]

harrow clad

shit i shouldnt use harrow

crinj

[upper sun]

nah its fine

i've been screaming randomshit in game chat for so long i cant feel cringe anymore

[patent steeple]

I think KF is not working like it should now work. I can still trigger it on horde enemies…

[untold niche]

what build you playing now
First thing im going to try is my zealot knife build since fury now has 25% tdr

fucking insane

[patent steeple]

Why did you not test KF’s new limitations enough, Fartshart?

[untold niche]

i dont think i can die now on that buid;

[upper sun]

idk maybe momentum thammer soon

i still have to finish unlocking for pysker and vet

then clean up

then i can finally have fun

[nocturne dust]

the teammate about to explode you off a ledge:

[untold niche]

unlocking what
Also the special condition that got posted as update, whats the reward?

[upper sun]

blessings

they take a lot of clicking

[solid pond]

so how do you empower things with hadron? my empower screen UI seems to be too low and I don't see any options to do anything in it lol

[upper sun]

also some things isnt max mastery

[untold niche]

what blessings

oh

[upper sun]

if you had enough mastery now you have the points to unlock it

but u have to clickmaxx

[untold niche]

i see.

[nocturne dust]

seems like a bug you should report

[dense valley]

lol been havin this shit too

[wind spruce]

Oh also @untold niche you can get to 77.5% crit with void now

Sorry 82.5%

[untold niche]

yeah i sense recoil nerf

no way

void 82.5%

[solid pond]

roger that lol, just was reading this chat so I got a recon on my gunker and can't empower it lol

[untold niche]

thats better than old void with true aim

dude now you can just evaporate crushers

wtf

[wind spruce]

Scriers (20), nexus (20), basic node, surge, prescience, soul drinker, weapon perk (all 5 x 5) + base (7.5)

[potent echo]

How I only counted 62.5%

Oh surge adds crit too now

[untold niche]

Also the special condition that got posted as update, whats the reward?

prescience, soul drinker perk (5 x 5)
can you explain what are these two/three? things

[potent echo]

Souldrinker isn't 5x5 isit

[nocturne dust]

prescience is the crit chance aura

[wind spruce]

There's 5 things I listed in a row that give 5%

[untold niche]

ah

wats soul drinker

[potent echo]

Right side talent

5% crit on soulblaze thing die

[wind spruce]

Kill an enemy with warpfire on it and you get 5% crit for 5s and 5% toughness

[radiant frigate]

sg blaze trauma time

[nocturne dust]

not a great node for voidstrike, lol

[radiant frigate]

not a great node

[potent echo]

Staff glaze 🫦

[wind spruce]

Why

[nocturne dust]

sounds like you need to be purged

[potent echo]

Nah it's great

[upper sun]

smh

[potent echo]

PC

[untold niche]

ah

then why irosk typed "5x5"?

[radiant frigate]

what are you gonna do, drink my soul?

laughable

[upper sun]

the psyker gaze is so gross frfr

[potent echo]

Stinky

[wind spruce]

Re-read my comment, I edited

[upper sun]

how dare they look at heretics like that

[nocturne dust]

voidstrike doesn't have innate soulblaze and doesn't have a good soulblaze build

[crisp mason]

are there any good guides for psyker class?

[potent echo]

Herethicca

[wind spruce]

Hahahhaha good joke

[nocturne dust]

yes

[wind spruce]

Cos shriek doesn't exist right

[untold niche]

weapon perk (all 5 x 5)
I still don't get it :p

[radiant frigate]

😭

[potent echo]

Nuh uh watch me bring blazing spirit Deimos

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't.

[wind spruce]

I listed five things that give 5% crit

[radiant frigate]

shriekgaze will prove difficult

[potent echo]

He listed 5 things that are all 5% each

[untold niche]

ohhh

[wind spruce]

TRY HARDER

[potent echo]

I just repeated what he said

[untold niche]

you paraphrased

[radiant frigate]

sg keystone when?

[untold niche]

very smort

[potent echo]

It's the monkey gif energy

[wind spruce]

Omg pls

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-see-monkey-do-read-the-manual-follow-instructions-book-smarts-gif-18024477

FUCK

[nocturne dust]

rekt

[upper sun]

btw

how is surge surge?

[nocturne dust]

It seems

[potent echo]

Lmballer

[nocturne dust]

in your anger

[upper sun]

no

[nocturne dust]

you killed her

[upper sun]

shut the fuck up

tell me it works on channel

[nocturne dust]

Imagine surging on rmb

[upper sun]

say it aint so joe

pls

PLS

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike gang

Voidstrike stays winning

[gilded radish]

is this normal too have in the game files?

[upper sun]

im kmsing myself

[nocturne dust]

Extra cleave, extra crit, extra STRIKE

[upper sun]

fatshark pls

PLEASE

[nocturne dust]

Watch them make voidstrike surge only work on lmb

[untold niche]

they gave surge to surge staff?

[upper sun]

yes but its apparently only lmb

[quartz barn]

Atleast they added staff lmb talents to support that playstyle?

[nocturne dust]

still a crap playstyle

[potent echo]

Yes it's 2.5k dps on boss

And it's not even good on unyielding

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: it's awful to play. I would rather infinite smite.

[knotty sage]

Warp splitting works for swords/axes only?

[nocturne dust]

no

works on ranged

[mental grail]

Bullets too

[strong gulch]

both

[potent echo]

Assail too

[mossy oyster]

clad since you have real people internet now I need to show you the power of DBarrel gunker and Agri space cowboy

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure both of these void builds gonna FUCK

im not sold on warp splitting for void yet

[knotty sage]

Oh, warp splitting works for surge staff and smite as well?

[nocturne dust]

Uh

[mossy oyster]

I tried warp splitting on void

[nocturne dust]

surge doesn't really cleave

[mossy oyster]

and its a funny meme to M1 with scriers non overloading node

and just melt carapace

[vestal fulcrum]

Does VS gain anything from rending on high peril?

[buoyant mantle]

man new tree got good perk, but it's eating the fucking of the point

[nocturne dust]

welcome to every other class

[strong gulch]

I'm a dumb. I thought I was just unlucky that there were no curios in the shop, but there's tabs now.

[wind spruce]

ill test it now, one min

but im mainly just not taking the other node

since void doesnt gen much peril

[safe meteor]

Is Warp Unbound bugged? I was able to blow up from Perils even with the lingering effect from Scrier's.

[buoyant mantle]

just one or 2 more point would make everything whole lot better

[nocturne dust]

SG + voidstrike

dewet

you know you want to

[strong gulch]

I also forgot that you won't get high stat rolls from brunt. So buy until rating just empties my pockets. 💀

[buoyant mantle]

also armour pen on flame staff is guuud

[nocturne dust]

is aight

[wind spruce]

i did it, its fun

[buoyant mantle]

just spray it and swap to melee and delete armour
also flame seems to bypass enemy orgryn shield now

makes it extra spicy

[wind spruce]

it does nothing, so could take the other node

[vestal fulcrum]

Imagine generating even less peril on VS

[buoyant mantle]

no, it already blast through armour

[vestal fulcrum]

I need to find one that has like 20-30 Warp resist

[nocturne dust]

just spam more balls

[buoyant mantle]

take surge + crit chance on peril lvl on VS

MORE BALL

[wind spruce]

gens 12% peril on full charge 💀

[nocturne dust]

I think my sg + vs build gens like 4% on max charge

[vestal fulcrum]

At what staff Warp resist?

[potent echo]

I tried yesterday, idk if crack of bone stacks

[wind spruce]

73%

[wind spruce]

it feels like it does sometimes

[potent echo]

Because I proc it twice, my void full charge is 8%

Without empyric

[upper sun]

1k plasteel and done with psyker

im fukin happy bros

[wind spruce]

this feels harder now
https://outplayed.tv/media/xGGz4K

[left hare]

i just face tanked a daemon host for so long it decided to leave

duelling sword is crazy

[strong gulch]

Just empowered this from 310.

[potent echo]

How much did it cost?

[strong gulch]

Everything. I didn't even keep track. I just kept selling everything I had. 😭

[potent echo]

Mah house

[wind spruce]

It doesn't cost that much

Well it didn't feel like it to me

The price doesn't go up per empower does it?

[strong gulch]

I'm always ordo starved.

[wind spruce]

Or was I not paying attention

[weary crane]

Someone do a comparison of penetrating flame vs nothing against a brusier horde

[upper sun]

4 masteries left total cost ~1 mil dockets 23k plasteel

[potent echo]

Do you just buy stuff to sacrifice

[upper sun]

yes

[strong gulch]

anyone try thrust on DS yet?

[upper sun]

ye its nice

stacks really fast

[strong gulch]

can actually one shot mutants

[elfin geode]

Yeah goes pretty crazy

[elfin geode]

I just ran pen flame & blaze away just to see how well it could do on it's own and it's good but I'm not 100% sold ig

Pen Flame I think > because team benefit

[potent echo]

Does the brittleness even work on the guys at the back

[elfin geode]

Oh I guess that's a good point I hadn't thought of it

In my head, the soulblaze spread talents are applying brittleness

But that may not be the case since it's not from the staff

[nocturne dust]

costs like 2.2k plasteel

[near drift]

am I crazy or is surge staff building up peril faster than before

[patent steeple]

time to check patch notes, I guess...

[potent echo]

Yesn't

Wait I didnt read anything about electrokinetic staff

[upper sun]

AYO WAIT

WHATS THE RATING FOR THE REAL +3 STAMINA NOW?

[untold niche]

whats that

[potent echo]

?

[wet inlet]

Do I get this right: the highest score for weapon now is 500 whilst the highest random-rolled ones are capped at 380?..

[potent echo]

It's been in the game since launch

Like the voidblast

And inferno staff

[untold niche]

whats lectrokinetic stuff

staff

[potent echo]

The electrokinetic staff

[untold niche]

[potent echo]

[summer prairie]

fyi numericUI works with this fix https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/14?tab=posts

[wind spruce]

It was underwhelming

Will be good for EP psykers who can't hit the mutant breakpoint

[rigid sky]

Question, is there any point to Melk now?

[summer prairie]

I guess when you don't have all the masteries yet

plus it's way cheaper than crafting

[rigid sky]

So just to buy oranges to sacrifice for exp?

[summer prairie]

nah, I mean if you don't have access to the blessings yet

[rigid sky]

Oh true

[sand sequoia]

is it just me thinking that the psyker is now weaker then before the patch??

[potent echo]

Yes

Psyker weak

[indigo kayak]

there's a voidstrike / scriers build on the buildcrafter, has anyone used it? seems counterintuitive

[potent echo]

Buff psyker!

[mighty fractal]

Late, but

[potent echo]

I like crack of bone melee on gaze activation, then start blasting after you reach max stacks

[mighty fractal]

Biomancy does have a Life Leech spell...

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Biomancy

[potent echo]

Biomancy staff when

[mighty fractal]

The closest thing we have now are the electricity talents

and Surge is technically biomancy, same with this game's version of Smite

HOWEVER

We need some Hammerhand melee

[potent echo]

Electrokinetic suggest future copium marks might add some biomancy muscle things

[mighty fractal]

Hopefully we get more Bio-lightning staves, yeah

Life leech/blood boil staves

[patent wing]

teleport staff pls

[summer prairie]

sacrificing 10 weapons of the matching type gets you to mastery 10, pretty cheap

[mighty fractal]

A more powerful version of Sienna's beam staff in the form of the Pyromancy Molten Beam

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Pyromancy

Beam Staff is actually really good in VT2, but it's so piddly

[potent echo]

I need pyromancy to be orange red fire

[quick tulip]

Beamstaffwhen

[mighty fractal]

It feels like a laser pointer

We need an ACTUAL thick beam

like Wisp's pointless ult from Warframe

[potent echo]

And no custom flames don't cut it because animations and the soulblaze status

[quick tulip]

The power of the sun

[mighty fractal]

https://youtu.be/y3cshmJjRZQ?si=x9zbU51UhpSFhRaU&t=432

[patent wing]

i just want to be a tanky psyker who can poison all enemies

and roam around

[potent echo]

Type in chat

[mighty fractal]

Bio-poison would be neat, too

[patent wing]

blessing 1: gives 50% movespeed and no collision
blessing 2: give 50% toughness dmg reduction

[mighty fractal]

oh god

an extremely fast sienna yelling I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS as she noclips through entire crowds, drains their life, and then beats Crushers to death with Hammerhands

MY BELOVED SAID

[potent echo]

Catch these hands

[jaunty steppe]

I was curious, in terms of code : does the electricity from Smite or the lightning staff is same or even stack with the Shock Mauls ?
I wanted to do a thematic electro build in a way

[jovial juniper]

Sienna

#882D17

I think

[lost harbor]

I'm doing my best to make a proper build for gun psyker but I keep missing points on what should be chosen

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

[strong gulch]

gotcha

[upper sun]

r8 my slop

[strong gulch]

a buy

[potent echo]

Does it come in black

[upper sun]

no

[lost harbor]

Wait slop translates in drip?

[upper sun]

idk

but i said a while ago

[strong gulch]

It will come back in black and maybe cost more.

[upper sun]

i will never buy slop until they fix crafting

[potent echo]

[upper sun]

now to wait for rashad skins

or maybe bolter

[potent echo]

Owned

Oh did they fix crafting

[upper sun]

yes

we happy boiz

[strong gulch]

well, if your master points are working that is

some are very unhappy

[potent echo]

I'll play tmr

[upper sun]

works for me

but sometimes i have to close the menu and reopen it

[mighty fractal]

:burntsienna:

Yeah that new staff skin is nice, even if it's just a recolor

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153279327513886770/1288818279636537355/20240926040311_1.jpg?ex=66f6910e&is=66f53f8e&hm=dea8edc365f48a9014e3a3aae8d6f4c0d4d6be214f9f71ef1636205717a8707e&

[potent echo]

What's he cupping with the other hand

[upper sun]

they need to drop more than just one weapon option every week

im not a big fan of outfits since i cant see them lmao

[mighty fractal]

She's explaining how to count to an Ogryn

[cosmic sigil]

if you have been running with vet and zealot using ds4 that's normal

wrong reply smh

[lost harbor]

Is more cleave useful?

[uncut sinew]

on illisi, yes

[worthy goblet]

What about MK4 dueling?

[quartz barn]

Ngl i got confused for a sec, because ive been using that skin for months now

[uncut sinew]

haven't tried that, but it could

[quartz barn]

Then i rememebered that the wep custom database contains a ton of models that havent been used yet

[potent echo]

More cleave more die

[lost harbor]

Is this viable?

[summer prairie]

hmm why aren't my DD stacks lasting for 10s even with the talent

[cosmic sigil]

visual bug iirc

[summer prairie]

it definitely felt like I was dropping them immediately

[cosmic sigil]

in the buff bar

oh oO

[summer prairie]

but maybe they were there

[hollow cliff]

I experienced the same thing last night. I hope it's just a visual bug - I'm not willing to wait months for it to be fixed if it isn't.

[lost harbor]

@upper sun can you take a look at this?

[upper sun]

looks good to me

[quartz barn]

I assume this is for gunker?

[upper sun]

but im just waiting until sweatlords make the meta

we love our sweatlords

[quartz barn]

True sweatlord goes dd for the speed

[onyx sentinel]

souldrinker doesn't reapply until the duration is over, so looks like it's literally just 5 toughness/5 seconds

isn't it just shit then

3 points for 5% crit basically

[lost harbor]

Yeah I’m trying what’s best, I can’t seem to find the right combinations

[lost harbor]

Do you think I should change something?

[strong gulch]

Hotfix is out.

[upper sun]

oh wait

[upper sun]

second to last keystone upgrade

get the garenteed charge on elite kill

[lost harbor]

Sure

[ebon rose]

is anyone else noticing that piercing flame blessing on purgatus doesn't apply brittleness stacks?
I have a mod that shows debuffs which work alright on other stuff, but not the staff

[latent mauve]

Yippie

[latent mauve]

Bugged on the mod side

[upper sun]

alsoo

idk about crit on soulblaze kills

your only soulblaze source is pc

do you have soulblaze on a weapon?

[ebon rose]

hum, one would think that the mod tracks the debuffs from the enemy status, not their source

[strong gulch]

It at least doesn't have to die by the sb itself.

[ebon rose]

I don't see why it would be bugged for one specific blessing but it's possible I guess

[strong gulch]

But yeah, only PC is sus for that node unless you are killing PC targets back to back.

[upper sun]

@fading galleon hi I think its time to retire the old standard build in the pins

[strong gulch]

I haven't tested a whole bunch so idk.

[fading galleon]

ok

[onyx sentinel]

how does thrust on the DS compare to uncanny

[uncut sinew]

uncanny is better, but the thrust is funny to use, just extra dmg essentially

[upper sun]

idk i run both

[uncut sinew]

based

[upper sun]

one blessing on repeated hits
one on single hit

yeah its gaming time

[rugged glacier]

Does anyone else still have 4 blessing points to spend on the surge staff even though youve unlocked all the blessings?

[uncut sinew]

yes

[rugged glacier]

ok ty lol

[wind spruce]

The crit not reapplying doesn't mean the toughness isn't being generated, but I haven't tested it

[upper sun]

i think precog thrust or uncanny and relentless strike might be better tho

[wind spruce]

Uncanny relentless strike is what I'm running for builds that need monstrosity dps

[strong gulch]

Huh, you don't need much peril to have comparable targets hit with Warp Splitting vs Ethereal Shards. I'm gonna drop ethereal shards.

[upper sun]

ye that sounds like its best for single target

[strong gulch]

I was looking at that blessing.

[wind spruce]

Oh damn, so with both how many we hitting?

[patent wing]

u sure?

[lost harbor]

What are the best perks for quickdraw stub revolver?

[wind spruce]

Shred/riposte is actually better than uncanny for bosses, but obviously uncanny has wider use cases

[summer prairie]

are you sure it's affecting the cleave, assail has a weird own piercing system

[wind spruce]

Yes

[devout sluice]

woah this is new, is it good?

[wind spruce]

But the crit reapplying doesn't mean the toughness isn't generating

[uncut sinew]

nah, only about 50dmg over time per heavy attack

[lofty storm]

what do you run with trauma? blaze & what?

[devout sluice]

does it at least "stagger" like shock maul?

[uncut sinew]

could synergize well with the shock maul though

[strong gulch]

5 with both. 4 with warp splitting. 3 with ethereal shards.

[lofty storm]

warp nexus?

[wind spruce]

Garbage.

[uncut sinew]

it doesn't, only deals dmg

[devout sluice]

i see :./

[onyx sentinel]

it for sure doesn't reapply the buff meter but I don't have the psykhanium mod to test the toughness regen

[wind spruce]

Hot damn

Try with EP too!

[strong gulch]

On the groaners and poxwalkers tho I haven't tested others

[devout sluice]

why do those exist tho

only staff i ever use primary on is purgatus

[lost harbor]

Is sustained fire good?

[devout sluice]

and its not for damage

but blaze stacks

[devout sluice]

no

[uncut sinew]

i use the bottom one with my m1 trauma build

[wind spruce]

It can turn stuff into popcorn though

[upper sun]

nah

[lost harbor]

What else is then?

[upper sun]

what weapon do you want blessings for?

[devout sluice]

m1 trauma build? 😭

[uncut sinew]

yes

it is funny

[devout sluice]

did something change

[uncut sinew]

and works suprisingly well

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/Jxb6Xj

[devout sluice]

or is it your niche

[lost harbor]

Quickdraw revolver

[uncut sinew]

it's just funny

[upper sun]

handcannon surgical prolly

[devout sluice]

thanks, actually cool for the blaze sword

[uncut sinew]

holding m1 and deleting hordes

[devout sluice]

but then you can like make the special spam permacrit on this one

[mental grail]

Literally a recolor

[devout sluice]

and that usually oneshots horde anyway

so electrocute is overkill damage = pointless

[uncut sinew]

essentially

[lost harbor]

What about trickshooter?

[upper sun]

yea i assumed it was a recolor

[plucky flax]

Yeh red one is cooler

[devout sluice]

yeah and original is better colour palete ngl

[upper sun]

thats the crit on repeated hits?

ah

eh

[lost harbor]

Yeah, it stacks 5 times since it's on the quickdraw revolver

[upper sun]

OHHHHHH

eh

id go with calclcade

calvalcade

cclaclade

cladeadAAAA

you get what im saying

[mental grail]

Bro???

[lost harbor]

I don't LMAO

[mental grail]

Are you okay?

[strong gulch]

I just took out this whole lot of goobers. Idk if that was the max amount of target or not. 6 here.

[upper sun]

"Crucian Roulette"

[wind spruce]

I THINK ep hits 6 already

[strong gulch]

SG tho. Dang introducing variables.

[lost harbor]

YEAH HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO GET THAT

[wind spruce]

(Could be 5)

[upper sun]

i was trying to say Cavalcade

[mental grail]

Idk what you were trying to say

[upper sun]

Cavalcade is the same as crucian Roulette

idc

dont at me

[lost harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-twitch-osu-gif-25667324

[patent wing]

i just did and my feeling was correct the toughness has no cooldown

[wind spruce]

Noice

[patent wing]

which essentially makes it worth because u get soulstealer and crit for 1 node

[cosmic sigil]

trickshooter is power, you're talking about crucian roulette

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's a great node

Still unconvinced its worth it with just perilous

But we'll see

Someone send me a full game with only perilous soul drinker so I can see your uptime

[patent wing]

thats my build for purga rn (blaze away rending)

[vestal fulcrum]

EP base is 4 (since Assail by default cleaves up to 1 enemy), and goes up to 6 with Assail cleave upgrade

[lost harbor]

Yeah it's what I put on, hand cannon and crucian roulette with 25+% vs flak and 20+% vs maniacs

[mental grail]

inferno*

[patent wing]

only OGs remember

i remember like it was yesterday

[wind spruce]

No seer's presence? It's even stronget when your CD is already so low

[cosmic sigil]

that is pog

[patent wing]

thats up to you i guess, i just took all dmg nodes i could find for cara dmg

[cosmic sigil]

Burga

[wind spruce]

Thanks. Could be like 9+ with warp splitting

[patent wing]

tbh giving up dodge on crit hurt more (for the last WC node)

[wind spruce]

So much goodness now

[vestal fulcrum]

If it interacts with it at all, that’s a lot of damage.

But then the shard hits Carapace and implodes, and you’re sad.

[wind spruce]

Potato seems to think it does with non-ep assail

[manic halo]

inferno staff best perks?

[patent wing]

giving up PC will make many people mad tho. and using assail too. but thats just for saving points

[strong gulch]

@wind spruce I'm getting 10 groaners EP Assail with ethereal shards and warp splitting at 83% default ui peril.

[wind spruce]

Weakspot damage

[wind spruce]

HOLY EMPORER

That's NUTS

[manic halo]

weakspot damage on the weapon that don't hit weakspots??

or did I not get the joke

[vestal fulcrum]

10?!

[strong gulch]

Maybe all of that with SG and warp unbound

[patent wing]

depends, i like blaze away + brittleness

[wind spruce]

You didn't spot the weak joke

[vestal fulcrum]

Is EP Assail finally viable ?

[patent wing]

always was

[uncut sinew]

it always was

[wind spruce]

Potato

[vestal fulcrum]

But muH DD

[manic halo]

ay i was gonna do that, Should I just go flack manic then?

[wind spruce]

Test it on shotgunners

I want a video of one assail killing ten shotgunners NOW

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, DD just always seemed more appropriate to take with things I usually roll with

[patent wing]

depends, i like unyielding and cara but flak maniac is ok too

[vestal fulcrum]

But considering one shard can have so much cleave, I might change camps

[uncut sinew]

i don't have a video, but i have stats from my high dmg assail game

[jovial juniper]

DD enjoyers killing stuff with Assail when EP enjoyers hit extra targets with Assail

[vestal fulcrum]

Or just start using Warp Splitting, until it is inevitably made melee only

[uncut sinew]

before update*

[wind spruce]

Who cares, no offense

[uncut sinew]

non taken

[gray moss]

this new talent tree is gross

[uncut sinew]

but if old EP assail was that high dmg, then i can't wait to do better with it after update

[wind spruce]

10 assails. 100 kills.

[uncut sinew]

yummy

i like

[patent wing]

btw blazing spirit 4 didnt change the numba of stacks right

[vestal fulcrum]

Bio-lodestone is still not going to be better than Overpowering souls though, eh?

[summer prairie]

I think they are going to change it to melee only cleave

[wind spruce]

Not the cap, no

[patent wing]

but the stacks per hit?

[vestal fulcrum]

I will cry if they do, but I can see why they would do that

[patent wing]

how many were it before

[wind spruce]

3 to 4

[patent wing]

a<h nice

[strong gulch]

YE?

[wind spruce]

It's honestly close imo

[jovial juniper]

Which one mate lmao

[stable hare]

Can any big brain sister or brother explain why i have 4 leftover blessing points for the Electrokinetic staff?

[wind spruce]

I demand a vid of you killing 10 shotgunners with one assail

[strong gulch]

That's not groaners 🥺

[wind spruce]

If you kill 1,000 enemies that's 50 from bio. You should be getting more than 50 elite kills

But maybe the elite kill charges will get wasted more often? But maybe not because they are predictable

[vestal fulcrum]

Overpowering might still be better for chaining gunner/shotgunner kills

[wind spruce]

Yeah exactly

[vestal fulcrum]

Everything else, though?

I will do some experiments with that in live gameplay

[wind spruce]

Do it

I'm so trying EP SG assail tomorrow

Cleave city bitch, cleave cleave city bitch

[upper sun]

secret

[summer prairie]

sad that it affects assail actually, makes it almost certain that ranged cleave will be gone

https://streamable.com/pl15yq

[quartz barn]

They also tuned / removed the explosion stagger effect on trauma and void

[vestal fulcrum]

I’m more worried about guns using that cleave to ridiculous extent, honestly, but Assail is a “free” resource is the problem

[summer prairie]

most guns don't have much cleave

[worthy goblet]

What is even giving cleave? Is it one of the new perks? (At work and haven't played update yet :( )

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s the point though, no? Give guns cleave, up that even more with some sort of power blessing and you’re suddenly cleaving entire hordes while maintaining Scrier’s Gaze or what have you

[wind spruce]

Up to 100% cleave based on peril, a talent

[strong gulch]

It felt like my booms were weaker, but I thought I was just timing and placing my trauma blast badly. (still could be the case tho lmao)

[summer prairie]

well little cleave x2 is still quite little

[strong gulch]

Thanks for the video.

[worthy goblet]

Damn that sounds awesome if it works on guns. Hope it's intended

[wind spruce]

I need to try the recon that has 3 base cleave and put deathspitter on it

Could be silly

[vestal fulcrum]

Good case study

[cosmic sigil]

so sibling

[quartz barn]

Booms are just as strong but feel less impactful

[cosmic sigil]

braced autogun

[patent steeple]

btw, what could be a good melee psyker build? I have one loadout slot left, and am considering trying it out...

[cosmic sigil]

have you tested it?

[wind spruce]

Not at all yet

[cosmic sigil]

i have been playing inventory management tbh

[patent wing]

assail uses base crit of weapon?

[fresh reef]

god

I thought I should give obscurus a try now that we can switch marks

Why the fuck does H2 chain into L3???

[vestal fulcrum]

It probably uses just the base 7.5% CC and anything that goes on top

Like say, the small CC node or the aura, or Zealot’s Piety keystone buff

[patent wing]

i thought it takes base crit from knife if i switch to assail from it

[wind spruce]

I still can't believe void can get 82.5% crit chance

[quartz barn]

Ez clap

[wind spruce]

Nope

Zealot weapons used to do that to their knives

[upper sun]

AYO

LETS PUT CRIT ON SURGE

who thought that was a good idea lmao

[wind spruce]

Some legend

[vestal fulcrum]

That had to add some effect to it to make it sensible on Lv1-Lv4

[strong gulch]

What's the voidstrike perks again? flak and?

[wind spruce]

I love that other weapons got garbage shit to make their single tier blessings scalable

And Surge got crit ahhaha

[vestal fulcrum]

Crit chance makes sense. The problem is that on Void it also affects the BFG

[upper sun]

whatever the hell you want

id go flak crit tho

[wind spruce]

For me it's now flak crit because I'm not running DD/true aim

But I always used to run carapace flak

[upper sun]

i tried assail void EP

it was fucking shit

[wise ruin]

Got back into the game after a while, any good builds for auric?

[wind spruce]

Nah, sorry

[upper sun]

for psyker?

not yet

[wind spruce]

Psyker is dead

[weary crane]

Anyone know if soulblaze counts as "ranged damage"

[wind spruce]

Worst class

[wind spruce]

It does not

The 5% ranged damage node doesnt affect DoTs

[upper sun]

were waiting for smart people to make builds we can copy

[wind spruce]

Clad bro

U got this

[wise ruin]

what about weapons?

[plucky flax]

Why no dd?

Still good for assail

[patent wing]

they did that?

[vestal fulcrum]

What weapons did you use before the patch?

[plucky flax]

Even if tru aim is sad now

[upper sun]

what happened to tru aim?

[jovial juniper]

Hold up I totally forgot Surge has crit

[plucky flax]

1s icd and can't proc from multiple enemies anymore.

[wise ruin]

i didnt play for a long long time but i used to run the dueling sword mk4 or one of the blaze swords and voidstrike/fire staff

[formal harness]

Surge has surge

[jovial juniper]

Yeah I know

[plucky flax]

Tru aim big nerf for fast weapon like 6d recon las and voidstrike

[strong gulch]

Have you tried assail with ethereal shards, warp splitting, and ep? Also put that on Warp Unboud.

[jovial juniper]

Pretty good for LMB

[vestal fulcrum]

What about the ranged weapon?

Side note: Dueling sword Mk4 is good, so are the force swords (Obscurus is a little off, but Deimos and Illisi are both good)

[plucky flax]

No I have not played an actual game yet!!

[wind spruce]

Crit and soul drinker maxxing. I want more flames to keep it active and regening toughness.

Now that true aim is meh, I reckon WC might just edge it out. We'll see.

[plucky flax]

The cleave talent is good but need gazer for it imo so it works better with melee.

[upper sun]

nooooo you cant play you have to spend 5 hours cleaning your inventory

[plucky flax]

Yeah I've been playing the inventory thus far

For about 3 or 4 hours and remaking weapons.

[upper sun]

i finished playing crafting

tonight inventory

[plucky flax]

Didn't finish with psyker yet and I still have to go through the other 3 classes.

[upper sun]

tomorrow crafting

[strong gulch]

One assail shard is going through 10 groaners with warp slitting, ethereal shards, and ep

[plucky flax]

But it's because I want perfect 80/80/80 weapons.

[wind spruce]

I've barely touched crafting cos gameplay with talents

[upper sun]

for mastery took me ~25k plasteel for everything except like 2 ogryn weapon families

[vestal fulcrum]

And Inferno staff with 30 Warp resist

[upper sun]

shouldnt be too hard now

[plucky flax]

Hrm that is a lot but require high peril. Hmmm

[patent wing]

rate my melee psyker

[summer prairie]

I'll run this with void assail EP. Can drop KD for PC I guess

[patent wing]

(i use bloodthirsty illisi)

[strong gulch]

I couldn't dump blast radius to save my life. All of them had max blast radius.

but I got a peak 460 illisi

[wind spruce]

0/10

No MM...

If it wasn't illisi you'd get a good score

But MM bro...

[patent wing]

whats mm

[wind spruce]

Malefic momentum

[pine hearth]

does surge do anything on trauma secondary?

[wind spruce]

No

[patent wing]

idk if aura isnt better

[wind spruce]

You can get both

It might just be better than warp rider

[vestal fulcrum]

is this build hinged? Or would it be funnier to just go SGaze and forfeit the **best **™️ **ability **™️ aka shriek

[summer prairie]

I forgot, does void rmb benefit from quell or qq cancelling at all? Probably not

[patent wing]

do the enchanted hit kills count as warp kills`?

[vestal fulcrum]

It should very slightly, yes.

[summer prairie]

can't see any difference, it starts charging almost immediately

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb9ee95-0b68-43d7-abd0-05c8aae4258e/crit-psyker

Until I see proof of penetrating flame being effective I'll keep flurry on

[wind spruce]

As kjerad said yeah slightly, I single tick quell in between shots with empyric resolve and that's all you need gor peril management

[summer prairie]

or maybe

[strong gulch]

Yes, but at like 20-ish % you can hit 8.

[wind spruce]

Yes

[wind spruce]

Yes unhinged but yes do it

[patent wing]

id still have to give up ult cooldown

[wind spruce]

Why?!

[patent wing]

i need 2 points for mm

[strong gulch]

WAIT I JUST REBLESSED MY TRAUMA. feck

[wind spruce]

Yeah so warp rider and the health node

[wind spruce]

Oh and u can drop the node below psykinetics aura then

Since u can connect through MM

[patent wing]

true

so i can have my 10% hp

[wind spruce]

Yessir

[patent wing]

inb4 its cringe to take hp dmg

[wind spruce]

Which is totally worth a point by itself /s

[wind spruce]

Now drop one with the warp for warp rider

All damage no defense let's gooooo

[patent wing]

might do that if illisi gets 360* swings

https://tenor.com/view/garen-demacia-league-of-legends-judgement-gif-18330606

[wise ruin]

what do u guys use on curios?

[strong gulch]

I really like the idea of SG and mag dumping then at high peril and low bullets switching to assail

[wind spruce]

Combat ability regen ALWAYS, some gunner/sniper resist, then health/toughness

[wise ruin]

what about the blessings?

[wind spruce]

Whatever mix tickles ya fancy. One of each works well for people

No wounds though

[vestal fulcrum]

I might see how it fares in different setups, but for now I’ll try that with Voidboom and/or Zapstick

Purgatus Inferno might also not be awful with it, but I’m not really experienced with using that staff to its fullest extent

[wise ruin]

alr thanks

[vestal fulcrum]

Also I’m having the toughest time just getting used to quelling ticks with Solidity being so easily accessible

[wind spruce]

Have you deleted one before? Then you're experienced.

[radiant frigate]

siblings, what are we thinking? could warp-splitting serve as a replacement/upgrade for the extra pierce on assail shards?

[unreal wasp]

Mmm, after the update

[vestal fulcrum]

My latest hundreds of hours of muscle memery will need adjustments

[radiant frigate]

wtf forbidden 381 base illisi..

[vestal fulcrum]

Replacement? Doubt - the base effect of extra pierce is super good. Supplement? Until it’s nerfed - yeah, but until then it will reward peril edging very well.

[wind spruce]

Not a chance for replacing it imo. You wanna throw an assail at low peril and have it hit one target?!

[unreal wasp]

Wacky thing is I'm pretty sure Warp Resist went higher than it was supposed to when I went from 480 to 500

Everything else at 80 as it should've been

[radiant frigate]

the amount of random extra bang in psyker talents is pretty crazy now

[patent wing]

mutant one shotting now possible without buffs thanks emprah

[radiant frigate]

+20% damage just because, another +20% damage just because, +100% cleave just because

[wind spruce]

Thrust?

[patent wing]

yeas and +mutant

[wind spruce]

Because we deserve it

[near drift]

watch me do some dumb shit with triple wounds+crystalline will

[radiant frigate]

new update melee talents are making me drop toughness and i feel naked without it

send help

[patent wing]

how much dmg the explosion deals again

[near drift]

enough

[wind spruce]

Hahha yeah I've gotten wrecked so many times today because I didn't take enough toughness nodes

[vestal fulcrum]

Riposte on melee + Mettle. Use Souldrinker to fuller extent otherwise. Anticipation might be not a bad skill option after all, also

[wind spruce]

I've started throwing toughness regen speed on

[radiant frigate]

"oh look, some gunners, easy peasy"

"where the FUCK is my toughness oh god oh lord help help HELP"

[vestal fulcrum]

Too bad Anticipation’s placement is garbage

I wish it swapped places with EE

[near drift]

The scrier node where you can't blow up from peril for 10 secs after seems like it could be nuts in the right circumstances

[vestal fulcrum]

It may be. Depends on what you do with it - it’s a huge power spike potential

[wind spruce]

Stop being bad and taking shield

[radiant frigate]

if it worked it could be a funny boss burst phase with surge staff

but alas you currently go boom

[near drift]

aw what it don't work, lame

[radiant frigate]

bug probably

[vestal fulcrum]

I wonder if making a suggestion on the forums to give certain channeled effects a “freebie” cast at end of lingering effect duration would go through

[hollow jolt]

"Fuck psykers" -Fatshark

[vestal fulcrum]

Because Zapstick currently may explode you due to delayed peril generation at the end of secondary attack cast

[hollow jolt]

Just don't use warp powers, ez

[long wharf]

alright siblings, what else have we discovered changed?

[ruby sequoia]

Hi, guys!
Am I the only one that thinks that psy-wall additional abilities consequence should be switched or made parallel to be opened?
Like, first should be opened the double wall ability, and only then - shocking and getting damaged by specialists?
Because currently otherwise I see no reason ever use psywall when there's a psysphere: that first additional perk to the wall just ruins all the experience, as on Auric Damnation you get specialists to ruin your psywall very quickly.

[radiant frigate]

if specials run into your wall hard enough to break it, it has done its job

[wind spruce]

Yes they should be split, no the first perk doesn't remotely ruin it

It would be garbage without stopping specials

[radiant frigate]

true and real

[ruby sequoia]

but if I don't want it to be broken, to be a time-wall, set twice

[hollow jolt]

The whole point of the small shield is to stop specialists

[wind spruce]

So what it just stops gun fire?

Which can break it anyway?

[ruby sequoia]

like in the train mission

block the doors

[wind spruce]

So you want it to stop something minimal...

And do nothing else

Seems great

[hollow jolt]

Get the dome at that point

[ruby sequoia]

avoid gunfire is great enough

[long wharf]

if you don't want the wall to stop specialists, just kill them before they get to the wall?

[hollow jolt]

At least you can cover the flamer zealot sitting in it

[radiant frigate]

thinking about running dome

am i domed?

[strong gulch]

Double wall takes more awareness and can stop a train of specials.

BUT you take double wall to boost EP BB with KR.

[long wharf]

you're doming yourself

[hollow jolt]

Dome seems pretty good at what it does

[wind spruce]

Domed to mediocrity, yes

[hollow jolt]

Though I personally use Shrike

[radiant frigate]

shriek is The Good One

[wind spruce]

Pretty good at being BAD

[hollow jolt]

Such is life

[long wharf]

can't take EE with shriek any more, major sad

[radiant frigate]

sg is The Other One That Doesn't Suck

and wall/dome exists

[wind spruce]

Why?

[long wharf]

look at the tree

[strong gulch]

Dome is a comfort pick. It can cause positioning and site problems tho.

[radiant frigate]

i never really took EE outside of sg anyway

seems very low impact with shriek crit rate

[wind spruce]

You look at it bro, you can very much take it

[ruby sequoia]

yeah, I know, just thinking about if any way to make a wall ungarbage again

[wind spruce]

You can even take prescience with EE and shriek

[trim garnet]

holy shit silent hill 2

[strong gulch]

Oh maybe the additional point that is needed?

[long wharf]

hmm, wonder why I thought you couldn't

oh well, glad to be wrong on that

[trim garnet]

yeah new tree is goated for sideways movement

one with the warp AND scriers on prescience? satisfactory

[hollow jolt]

We need old dome back

[wind spruce]

Some of the branches are so small, it's been throwing me

[strong gulch]

Don't bring back old smite. I can still smell the melted computers.

[rustic hare]

Apologies if you all already talked about it, but what do you think about the show stopper blessing? Has anyone tried it out?

[long wharf]

what changed with smite?

[vestal fulcrum]

Nothing, really. It got an upgrade node, however (it’s fairly “mid”)

[vestal fulcrum]

It enhances the crowd control role of Infernus, but at least on surface level it’s not really doing anything that more killing power wouldn’t solve.

[strong gulch]

I'm just referencing back to the time when dome and smite were new and you could just chain put down domes while smite insta shut down any and all frames and melted people's systems.

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh, the topic was on old Smite

[long wharf]

oh damn, bolt pistol got some interesting blessings

[vestal fulcrum]

What about Old Surge though (the one with obnoxious VFX)

[strong gulch]

how could you bring that up 🥲

[vestal fulcrum]

My Beloved told me to do that

[radiant frigate]

in this economy? fantabulous

[long wharf]

OG surge was truly the best staff in the game

[strong gulch]

surge the horde, rmb and fast casts only

[rustic hare]

That makes sense. Thanks

[long wharf]

what's this I'm reading about cleaving on staves being reduced?

and why is Empyric Resolve so bad?

who would take reduction in toughness generated?

[hollow jolt]

Psyker has some of the most toughness regen in the game

[long wharf]

yes I know

[hollow jolt]

Its not that bad

[celest cave]

This is looks like MVP of that patch

[long wharf]

it's not bad until you're relying on it to stay on your feet

[celest cave]

You can spam heavy charges now

[hollow jolt]

Then -40% peril gen to spam abilities will come in handy

[celest cave]

you can stack it with

[hollow jolt]

Its just a tradeoff

[patent mango]

best part of patch was finally attack speed on psyker for me

[celest cave]

7% surge heavy charge lmao

[long wharf]

yeah, I'm looking at a massive buff to purge play

[hollow jolt]

Quelling is for the weak UwU

Brb getting 3 wounds and unbinding my quell button

[long wharf]

huh, so for melee, now you take smite?

to electrocute things?

[nocturne dust]

no

[visual prism]

i thought the surge melee is doodoo. did they change it?

[mental grail]

Lmfao

[nocturne dust]

the smite heavy melee is awful, like 50 bonus damage awful

[mental grail]

that's fucking nutty

[long wharf]

oh, that's it?

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[long wharf]

shame it's not a multiplier

[mental grail]

don't mention mid in this channel

[long wharf]

KF finally only targets things worth BBing

[mental grail]

💀

[long wharf]

that's actually nice

[urban sandal]

yeah but 15 second cooldown and still chance

still a waste of a point imo

[long wharf]

sure, it's not great

does Souldrinker work the way In Fire Reborn does?

[nocturne dust]

Somebody said it still triggers on horde but I wasn't able to confirm that yet

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker activates when an enemy with soulblaze dies for any reason