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#psyker-class
proper osprey
Truma needs 3 blessings
proper osprey
Right
limber silo
Truma needs 3 blessings
You need three blessings: Try. Something. New.
proper osprey
You need three blessings: Try. Something. New.
The primary fire needs to be voidstrike second fire
Inf cleave
limber silo
You think we're gonna get a level boost for more talent points, or are we gonna keep getting skill tree bloat?
proper osprey
You think we're gonna get a level boost for more talent points, or are we gonna ...
Uhhh I don’t know I thought about a level boost but if that happens what about our current gear it’ll need to increase the gear score
So probably more bloat
potent echo
Length is still the same
proper osprey
Only for psyker
potent echo
You just have extra love handles
proper osprey
Yeah I hate this they have to increase the level
potent echo
You basically gotta give up stuff like warp rider and kinetic deflection
proper osprey
Or remove the skills to the side
proper osprey
You basically gotta give up stuff like warp rider and kinetic deflection
The best things for psyker
proper osprey
Me when I live in the past
Ken deflect is stupidly amazing for dueling swords
proper osprey
you can tell based on the notes
I’ll have to read them again it seemed like they were scattered everywhere
potent echo
You can still keep kindeflect for DD builds
But if you want it on WC and you want the new stuff you just can't
proper osprey
Also I will say this if you’re good at the game you can literally make anything work but there will always be better options
summer prairie
you can if you drop psychic vampire and/or inner tranquility/essence harvest
and maybe some stuff on the top
potent echo
Drop PC 
proper osprey
You can still keep kindeflect for DD builds
Yeah I hate that i love it on my ws build
potent echo
On the current tree I used to have builds that don't take deflector
But then I rather just forgo the 2 extra WC
summer prairie
the extra warpcharges are kind of whatever except for venting shriek spam
proper osprey
Its saved me before was able to block a dh awhile
summer prairie
especially now
proper osprey
especially now
If you wanna keep them it’s more damage
It’s nice to have
For anything warp
radiant frigate
excited for the psyker changes
also taking suggestions for ranged weapons that do boss damage
currently settled on laspistol
brazen rampart
Recons do respectable damage with infernus.
brazen rampart
Yeah, but you also get a fair bit of horde clear.
Assuming you choose the mk7, that is.
radiant frigate
I'm not bothered about horde clear with illisi and assail
but it is worth mentioning
brazen rampart
They really need to give psyker better melee options for boss damage, imo.
Dsmk4 is just about the only thing you've got going for psyker in terms of melee boss damage.
Make obscurus the boss hunting force sword.
radiant frigate
Dsmk4 is just about the only thing you've got going for psyker in terms of melee...
bleed knife is the other one i can think of
brazen rampart
Yeah but then you're using bleed knife.
brazen rampart
I made my psyker as short as possible and she barely reaches a plogryn's head.
radiant frigate
thinking about not being minimum height
quartz barn
Does size really matter for that?
Dont you get one heavy/special inbetween their attacks anyway
If you have aggro that is
potent echo
Dont you get one heavy/special inbetween their attacks anyway
Now you get one thrust heavy
Maybe not 3 stacks but woo
quartz barn
Tbh the only time you'd have issues meleeing a pogre is when you dont have aggro
But why bother at that point
proper osprey
They really need to give psyker better melee options for boss damage, imo.
How the mk4 dueling swords exist
topaz matrix
Dueling swords and knives are both great boss dmg
proper osprey
Yeah
Bro was even saying I don’t play the game lol but says that
Crazy
The mk4 ds has like the highest dps of anything ever
Probably outclassed by the pw or evisceratior
quartz barn
Welcome to psyk chat, where the 
that lowman AM reside
plucky flax
Surge is good monster damage.
quartz barn
Side effect is that some are kinda out of touch
quartz barn
Surge is good monster damage. <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
But your pubs are always afk so no wonder you have the highest monster dmg with surge
plucky flax
But your pubs are always afk so no wonder you have the highest monster dmg with ...
Is like you don't choose your parents. I don't choose my random. 
proper osprey
Surge is good monster damage. <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
True if only there were good things to par it with
I guess smite or illis
Really want that update so I can craft an illis
quartz barn
Just rng it and get a 550 roll 
quartz barn
Thats what i did, but i never use it lmao
plucky flax
I guess smite or illis
Yes illisi surge smite is exactly the most op build. Spam creeping flames and surge right click to win.
proper osprey
Yes illisi surge smite is exactly the most op build. Spam creeping flames and su...
I know you can be ironic but i can’t tell!
plucky flax
I remember when surge was bugged to do less damage because of vfx change for like 3 weeks.
proper osprey
I remember when surge was bugged to do less damage because of vfx change for lik...
True
Remember when force swords had inf dodge
Me too
plucky flax
I know you can be ironic but i can’t tell!
I am not. Genuinely believe its the most damage to ease of play build in game.
plucky flax
Just stay at the back cast surge and press f when over 84% peril.
plucky flax
True. Need faster charge rate and radius.
Surge also deal with shooters very comfortably
brazen rampart
How the mk4 dueling swords exist
You apparently can't read because I mentioned the dsmk4 literally in the next sentence.
quartz barn
Fire trauma is just fun
quartz barn
Fire everywhere and the killfeed constantly gets clogged by kills happening offscreen
proper osprey
You get emojis because I feel like pictures are best for communicating for someone like you
proper osprey
Fire everywhere and the killfeed constantly gets clogged by kills happening offs...
True
Needs to have a rending effect as well
thin finch
They really need to give psyker better melee options for boss damage, imo.
Nay ,boss damage is the pet peeves of psyker and that's good
proper osprey
Tbh if it’s just you and the boss just use your environment and mobility and bb the boss
thin finch
I burn his ass
proper osprey
What I had to do for a beast a couple of times
thin finch
I did some high damage some time to time with purgatus against boss
proper osprey
I saw a guy using purg with scries and he was melting everything
I made one because it was so good
I run warp siphon with it
Crazy dps
Can’t wait for those new perks to it either
plucky flax
Ep bb burga is good monster damage too
proper osprey
Ep bb burga is good monster damage too
That’s true
radiant frigate
But why bother at that point
it still needs to die
proper osprey
I wish they buffed ep i can’t really see a reason to choose it over the others
radiant frigate
I wish they buffed ep i can’t really see a reason to choose it over the others
low points cost if you want a lot of other stuff
proper osprey
low points cost if you want a lot of other stuff
Well yeah but the other stuff like warp siphon is better sadly
radiant frigate
imagine if it gave you instant cast brain bursts
proper osprey
It’s be cool if assail did a shotgun effect
proper osprey
imagine if it gave you instant cast brain bursts
Or make it a big aoe
Bb a hoard
I’td be really cool to if it turned smite into a electric blast of energy
Melt bosses with it
Who know with the new stuff they are adding we will probably get harder missions
thin finch
I wish they buffed ep i can’t really see a reason to choose it over the others
purgatus EP BB is god tier tho
quartz barn
it still needs to die
I meant why bother meleeing pogre when you dont have aggro, because hitting his head from behind isnt really happening
proper osprey
purgatus EP BB is god tier tho
Yeah I used to run it it’s really fun
radiant frigate
I meant why bother meleeing pogre when you dont have aggro, because hitting his ...
if your ranged weapon isn't particularly good at boss damage and your blitz isn't bb it is probably still your best bet
proper osprey
I wish wildfire wasn’t terrible
radiant frigate
in this house we do not like enablers
plucky flax
proper osprey
Is op I use it whenever I can
It is?
proper osprey
Yeah but if I’m running that I’m running purg
tawdry hemlock
Woah
plucky flax
It is?
Yes I use it with surge, blaze trauma and burga.
400k+ soulblaze damage on a surge staff
proper osprey
Yes I use it with surge, blaze trauma and burga.
I thought of an enemy died and the others can’t get more than 4 stacks?
radiant frigate
I thought of an enemy died and the others can’t get more than 4 stacks?
what it does is redistribute up to 4 stacks, meaning that if there are 4 things around it they each get one stack
or so i am told
arcane fatshark knowledge either way
proper osprey
plucky flax
what it does is redistribute up to 4 stacks, meaning that if there are 4 things ...
That is correct
proper osprey
So it gets divided up
plucky flax
But enemies die in a big clump
plucky flax
So it's also easy to have it stack to 4 stacks on a bunch of new enemies for you
31 with creeping flames and pc
16 with burga
proper osprey
Ohh
vestal fulcrum
400k+ soulblaze damage on a surge staff
I’m concerned with how terribly wrong your games must go to reach such high SB damage numbers
proper osprey
Yeah alive always wondered about running soul blaze with it
Now I know to
I know a perfect roll can sometimes have an unfortunate breakpoint
vestal fulcrum
I typically range ~90-130K SB on a setup that merely uses Creeping flames and sometimes makes Perilous Combustion chains
proper osprey
And the dot gets it there
plucky flax
I’m concerned with how terribly wrong your games must go to reach such high SB d...
Was really smooth tbh. It was 34m maelstrom game. I'm just top 1%
radiant frigate
top 1% most humble sibling
plucky flax
Being unsanctioned is hard.
proper osprey
Being unsanctioned is hard.
Oh reporting you
plucky flax
Wildfire probably did about 200k damage.
proper osprey
Wildfire probably did about 200k damage.
Do the separate crits of the surge apply the dot?
plucky flax
No surge doesn't do any soulblaze by itself
It's all via pc and creeping flames and wildfire.
plucky flax
proper osprey
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1275918188265214063/i...
Deflector 4 is a myth how do you have it
plucky flax
Genuinely most op psyker build and so easy to play.
Also deflector buff soon
Very pog
Need to test surge surge to see if it'd work on right click.
sturdy tendon
I have Deflector 4 pretty easily
solid vigil
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1275918188265214063/i...
thats nuts
sturdy tendon
Yeah, Surge is such a joy against shooters and gunners
sturdy tendon
I should give a try to my Deflector 4 Deimos
proper osprey
They should put pc on the illis
plucky flax
I like deflector I use on both illisi and deimos.
Deimos with deflector uncanny. Illisi of course requires slaughterer.
sturdy tendon
Yeah wish we had power cycler
plucky flax
The new mm is going to be sick for illisi.
Since you do both warp and no warp with it. 
proper osprey
Was gonna ask if ws effected illis damage
strong gulch
buff staff bonk
proper osprey
Does it?
plucky flax
Ws?
stuck sinew
Watersports
proper osprey
I wonder If surge the new blessing that will be coming to the surge staff will make it fire 2 zaps
vestal fulcrum
Was really smooth tbh. It was 34m maelstrom game. I'm just top 1%
last 3 games, all under 30 minutes (High Int+) + build link
I wonder if it's Warp Siphon alone that pushes you to big SB numbers (I really doubt Wildfire does that much heavy lifting)
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cf2ca75-96a2-4f17-bb04-6dc47d946f15/gabagool
proper osprey
Genuinely most op psyker build and so easy to play.
And that’s with smite and vent?
radiant frigate
last 3 games, all under 30 minutes (High Int+) + build link
I wonder if it's Wa...
i always get confused when i see zealots with more ranged than melee damage
strong gulch
Part of SB is who applies it first. That dictates sb damage ownership.
You can do more sb damage than a a purg psyker on the same mission because you got the specials and elites first. Surge staff kills faster and has better range with more peril gen. So that means that you can shriek more and proc PC more plus spread with wildfire.
You don't have to play super fast and aggressively, but surge does reward that kind of playstyle.
vestal fulcrum
i always get confused when i see zealots with more ranged than melee damage
The guy had a Lawbringer shotty, so I’m not really surprised. It’s a gun that can rack up good ranged damage by just shooting special shells at hordes
strong gulch
I know we are getting access to more blessings.
Are all of the blessings getting shared now??
proper osprey
Hopefully
sterile vale
no
vestal fulcrum
I know we are getting access to more blessings.
Are all of the blessings gettin...
Define “shared”
proper osprey
vestal fulcrum
Across all classes? Yes
sterile vale
Weapon family mastery is shared, so you won't have to grind that on a character per character basis
Weapon family blessings were always account-wide though, so nothing's really changing on that front
wheat thorn
strong gulch
Right, but what I was asking more of is will all available blessings that melee weapons have across types and families be able to be rolled on one weapon.
Like knife getting blazing spirit or something like that.
sterile vale
No
strong gulch
kk
flat nexus
i always get confused when i see zealots with more ranged than melee damage
I think they still think that chastice does rending on range
potent echo
Did they also use a knife though 
plucky flax
And that’s with smite and vent?
Yes illisi surge smite creeping flames spam with warp charges.
plucky flax
last 3 games, all under 30 minutes (High Int+) + build link
I wonder if it's Wa...
Your build is not a soulblaze build though so it's understandable to have much lower number.
To me a soulblaze build goes down the left side. PC, wildfire, creeping flames, both cdr aura and WARP CHARGES for creeping flames spam.
Surge synergies well with this because you kill elites fast thus enabling the cdr for more creeping flames spam.
Also elites sniping for pc procs.
proper osprey
plucky flax
Blaze trauma is also good because it naturally gives soulblaze via the blessing.
But surge is just much easier to play since you don't even have to aim.
On blaze trauma my range damage to soulblaze damage tend to be about 50-50 or 60-40
quartz barn
Trauma only performs worse due to the lower range
And surge's lack of aoe gets compensated by shriek flame
plucky flax
Also if your teammates are good (very rare) then blaze trauma also does much worse.
If your teammates are doodoo blaze trauma be cooking.
quartz barn
Mfw i always end up soloing when i decide to run trauma
plucky flax
But then again I can baby sit better on surge because it kills specials so fast.
azure bridge
I find i can't play without trauma, the cc is too good alongside the fire
it just has an answer to so much
quartz barn
Meanwhile i can practically go afk on void because everything gets annihalated regardless of range + i run bubble for even less brain power gameplay
quartz barn
I have bb on it xd
plucky flax
Well I used to be able to play it with void pre nerf.
quartz barn
But tbh i just have that setup because it was my first one ever
summer prairie
looking forward to +100% cleave void
quartz barn
Ran it pre void buff
summer prairie
(I still think it will be melee cleave only because that's just silly)
quartz barn
And barely anyone remembers that time to begin with
plucky flax
Void nerf was needed. But now with dd so easy to stack it balances it out.
I ran blaze trauma pre patch 13.
I was already cooking with it.
Blazing spirits t4 though finally blaze trauma buff. 
potent echo
(I still think it will be melee cleave only because that's just silly)
Unless
Agrip revolver with 4 cleave incoming 
summer prairie
I guess the patch notes imply that the blazing spirit tiers will be just 1-4 stacks. They listed more drastic blessing tier changes
vestal fulcrum
Which is a lazy way of doing it, to be honest. The low tier blessings will basically never be touched the way they will work
vestal fulcrum
“Touched”, I.e., by beginner/new players
1 SB application/3 SB max is such a terrible display of what the blessing and SB dot is supposed to be doing
They could have made it 3 application baseline and only increase the max amount with each level of the blessing, but didn’t, for one reason or another
dusky crag
Aren't the lower ones there as a more linear path of progression?
plucky flax
@vestal fulcrum btw your assail and laspistol build doesn't use ee?
vestal fulcrum
Aren't the lower ones there as a more linear path of progression?
Yeah. And that’s a garbage solution, IMO
vestal fulcrum
<@286877952463863808> btw your assail and laspistol build doesn't use ee?
No. DD works better for me, EE is OK, but that only empowers blitz
sweet beacon
why would i ever want a LOWER number?
Reddit when balance
plucky flax
No. DD works better for me, EE is OK, but that only empowers blitz
Not EP. Emphathic evasion.
For free dodges when duelling with shooters.
summer prairie
maybe they'll make it exactly like the melee version
sweet beacon
EE is so dumb
dusky crag
Also isn't it more for new players as you mentioned.
Like your brand new psyker isn't going to need to run sedation with warp nexus 4.
But 1 is a little buff and lets them see things they may want to get later.
sweet beacon
I just play gunpsyker whenever I wanna play vet
summer prairie
4 stacks and 12 cap at t4
sweet beacon
Since I won't have to dodge ranged enemies
upper sun
Reddit when balance
this is real life chud.... reddit gets the dev balance team
mossy oyster
this is real life chud.... reddit gets the dev balance team
silence only ASS users can speak from this point on
chud.
sweet beacon
what the fuck is ASS
upper sun
need ASS frfr
mossy oyster
auric shit survivor
upper sun
no its just ass
dusky crag
Reddit dislikes ASS because the majority don't have it
Discord dislikes ASS because they do have it.
upper sun
dont listen to him
vestal fulcrum
Not EP. Emphathic evasion.
Oh, sorry, I misread the acronym.
I would have wanted it, but I can offset not having it by movement tech, so it’s not the end of the world. I might as well have gone Ghost on LP Mk10, but Reassuringly Accurate help a bunch with toughness uptime. And EE is only working against shooters - they rarely if ever kill me, it’s everything else that’s problematic, so I went for more toughness
sweet beacon
Impossible to do with pubbies so I'll never get ASS
summer prairie
zealot chat has been leaking recently
dusky crag
I use ASS because it's orange.
upper sun
I use ASS because it's orange.
I have colors disabled
sweet beacon
Idk I think it's very plausible for redditors to have ASS
mossy oyster
that ASS titles are usually 98% poopy
sweet beacon
They're all about busted shit and cheese
I legit saw a post about cheesing "on overwatch" for vet bro
upper sun
me dying to dogs twice
mossy oyster
giving orange a bad name
plucky flax
Oh, sorry, I misread the acronym.
I would have wanted it, but I can offset not ...
Fair and valid. It's an additional safety net for me especially against reapers. But then I use dumdum infernus.
upper sun
i will get ASS without lying!
mossy oyster
how about you get a stable internet
plucky flax
I also prefer mk2 las. The faster pew pew!
mossy oyster
so we can play
upper sun
how about you get a stable internet
tbh even without that
plucky flax
It does much better dps for the cost of ammo.
dusky crag
I legit saw a post about cheesing "on overwatch" for vet bro
Here's how you cheese on overwatch don't worry chat it's easy
Have headphones plugged in.
VoC
Low int
Cheesed.
upper sun
issue is i cant even log into vc
vestal fulcrum
Fair and valid. It's an additional safety net for me especially against reapers....
EE is definitely good-er on LP Mk2, since it kind of always wants DumDum + Infernus, so agreed
upper sun
because its too slow to support both the game and discord
sweet beacon
Here's how you cheese on overwatch don't worry chat it's easy
Have headphones p...
Pretty much
mossy oyster
ive played with people plenty of times without comms
vestal fulcrum
- it can spam. I kind of have to be more accurate with the Mk10
mossy oyster
(in here too)
sweet beacon
I did it on a HI-STG bc VoC is just that dumb 
sweet beacon
Was surprised when the achiev popped up
upper sun
https://tenor.com/view/blissful-malevonence-gif-10192619856801101589
yeah its right on the line for passable play
any slow down i disconnect
mossy oyster
I did it on a HI-STG bc VoC is just that dumb <:Omegalul:518767109346558002>
I got atoma's elite guard, by literally queueing into a random auric maelstrom on my soyker
(and we were 4 soykers)
piss easiest maelstrom ever
dusky crag
Was surprised when the achiev popped up
I mean I tried for mine like almost 2 years ago
sweet beacon
What's that one? Not going down or what
potent echo
Just need a poggers team
sweet beacon
I prob don't have that one, lemme check
mossy oyster
(not so bad with the spawns being half as fucked up as they used to be)
upper sun
wait is it not getting disabled or not getting downed?
sweet beacon
Also easy to see why since it was 4 soykers
upper sun
ah thats more doable then
sweet beacon
Just need one psyker with trauma and you have to try rlly hard to go down
potent echo
Somehow got matched with a team with 3000 combined levels and I got it before ASS
mossy oyster
zamn
sweet beacon
I mean
sweet beacon
I frequently see players over level 3000 that just fold whenever they get into melee
dusky crag
Yet not better than twins hardmode
mossy oyster
I have twins hardmode
sweet beacon
Levels mean nothing sadly
upper sun
I frequently see players over level 3000 that just fold whenever they get into m...
had one dude get bullied out of sedation for dying
level 1000 psyker
potent echo
Levels PC vs levels console
sweet beacon
More than deserved
mossy oyster
I hear it all the time in zealot chat and here too
once you get to 1000 you just become dog shite apparently
sweet beacon
Levels PC vs levels console <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Dude I fucking wish that shitters like that were exclusive to console
mossy oyster
(everyones interactions with 1000+ are usually memes)
sweet beacon
I really wonder how some players are considered abled by their government
dusky crag
I'm only +270 I'm safe
upper sun
3x xp perks
dusky crag
I'm safe!
potent echo
Even with XP works it's still like level 600
dusky crag
I might put 3x exp on once crafting happens just to feel something
potent echo
My combined level is like 1600 now
mossy oyster
hey man ill say this
for everyone
backstab modifier is a bitch
(the poxwalker annihilating my toughness cause I didnt abuse 360 shove behind me)
potent echo
I did see one level 2000 zealot though
sweet beacon
Simply listen to the very loud noise that plays when they're winding up
mossy oyster
I did see one level 2000 zealot though <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
this is normal
mossy oyster
Simply listen to the very loud noise that plays when they're winding up
I do
I hear it through my music
its kind of ingrained into my brain
at this point lmfao
sweet beacon
Yeah I can't darktide with music other than in-game's
mossy oyster
always 360 shove and always dodge
sweet beacon
Get too focused on the song lyrics and take 3 hits
mossy oyster
ah you need adhtism level 9
thats all us zealots have
(me listening to loud ass breakcore while playing darktide)
dusky crag
I tested that by putting loud music, a twitch stream and podcast over game audio
Got trapped once
Lol
Game sounds pretty good
potent echo
It does when it does
dusky crag
Which js the bum ass penance
sweet beacon
my highest is still p low
sweet beacon
ah you need adhtism level 9
mine isn't that high sadly
mossy oyster
i dont bother thinking of getting dreamteam
cause I play aurics
someone is getting fucked over
eventually
dusky crag
I'm at 97
dusky crag
May grind sedation for it (I won't)
sweet beacon
i dont have elite guard sadly
mossy oyster
elite guard is like one of those things thats either
you hyper focus and get it easy
or you dont think about it and get it just as easy
dusky crag
I got like 40 from doing uprising and sedation speedruns for mission completions.
mossy oyster
lmfao
dusky crag
On my own before someone accuses me of being a dick
sweet beacon
if bots didn't count for this i'd just find a way to force solo lobbies and get it done
pubbies go down to anything
mossy oyster
oh hey
since im about to post this the game is gonna curse me but whatever
I forget this one exists
(and has a border)
sweet beacon
yh thats one im never getting unless i play w a friend 15 times in a row
mossy oyster
yup
i know the game is gonna get me eventually in auric
also they should really give you like
at least a barrel pendant
for suffering 2,500 barrel kills
sweet beacon
barrel multiclass hat pls fatshark
plucky flax
also I have atomas elite guard and ASS before this bum ass penance
They shouldn't have halved this.
dusky crag
yh thats one im never getting unless i play w a friend 15 times in a row
I did it with randoms on malice
sweet beacon
I did it with randoms on malice
mossy oyster
sometimes I dream about cheeeeese
sweet beacon
if only that wasn't a mk2..
potent echo
Force greatsword now
sweet beacon
force greatsword in 5 business years
sweet beacon
fellas.. do you think there's any chance fatshark will actually listen to the balance complaints
mossy oyster
well
sweet beacon
i rlly dont wanna stop playing 
mossy oyster
I said it this way
if thunder hammer is any indication they are even slightly listening
theres hope
sweet beacon
oh no they're definitely listening
mossy oyster
(all the TH tweaks/buffs were welcomed to every hammer user)
sweet beacon
to whom is the issue
mossy oyster
yes
dusky crag
(all the TH tweaks/buffs were welcomed to every hammer user)
Except boss killers
mossy oyster
now that is the real problem
sweet beacon
itemization and TH are pretty much all that seems right with this update
mossy oyster
Id still use TH for a boss
im just glad its going back to how it used to be
not just "boss killer", its big boy killer all around
like it used to be
dusky crag
I'm curious what the other difficulty thing they're working on is
sweet beacon
I'm curious what the other difficulty thing they're working on is
not gonna matter unless they remove rending/brittleness as mechanics in that diff
mossy oyster
like look at this shit
sweet beacon
and maybe double enemy body mass
mossy oyster
TH has gotten justice and bolter
crusher got stupid
and (plasma got even better blessings for some reason)
also what felk says rings true
sweet beacon
and (plasma got even better blessings for some reason)
this was definitely something
mossy oyster
a new difficulty would be nice(probably not possible ive heard cause current engine), but even with new difficulty these new power/BiS blessings
are fucking insane
sweet beacon
but didn't surprise me since very often reddit argued it's balanced or "the only fun weapon" with a minority even saying it's weak
mossy oyster
the player power level just rose exponentially yet again
sweet beacon
who knows, maybe they're just trying their best to bring casuals back in
and will nerf it all back in like a month or so
mossy oyster
we will see
sweet beacon
mossy oyster
lets just cope and theory craft for now
all we can do
(and what we've been doing)
dusky crag
not gonna matter unless they remove rending/brittleness as mechanics in that dif...
I think brittleness can exist it just needs changing.
Rending is... a whole other problem.
mossy oyster
brittleness is useless (it just gets outshined and things die usually before it stacks to usefulness level)
sweet beacon
uhh maybe brittleness scaling up with damage done? enemy health lost?
sweet beacon
how is brittleness useless?
mossy oyster
well im talking from a zealot standpoint
vestal fulcrum
Before brittleness does anything, the affected target typically dies
mossy oyster
^
sweet beacon
zealots don't matter
mossy oyster
I literally said brittleness is useless in the exact same way as kjerad
dusky crag
If penetrating flame applied brittleness it'd be...
Idk
More balanced than it is right now
sweet beacon
i wish the both of you to suffer with recon mk6d pubbies for the next 100 matches
mossy oyster
brittleness is like "ok im going to stack brittleness" oh its dead
(because everyone has insane single target damage options)
dusky crag
i wish the both of you to suffer with recon mk6d pubbies for the next 100 matche...
I'm the guy using it hahahaha
mossy oyster
I want brittleness to be useful
or reworked to actually be a thought
and considered
but doubt thats happening anytime soon
sweet beacon
I'm the guy using it hahahaha
vestal fulcrum
Realistically consistent situations where brittleness is good is mostly against Monstrosities and bosses. Everything else is too weak in comparison to player power level
sweet beacon
one weapon shouldn't be the solution to everything
mossy oyster
what kjerad said
i dont think its brittleness felk
I think thats just vet
(I mean they literally have a free 10% rending talent)
like
sweet beacon
that doesn't really mean brittleness is weak
sweet beacon
only that there's a lot of busted shit in the game
sweet beacon
why the fuck does knife have uncanny strike?
it's already stupid vs armor without it
same goes for deimos/ds4
sweet beacon
(I mean they literally have a free 10% rending talent)
i mean
that 10% doesn't do much
rather spend 3 points getting Onslaught than 1 getting that 10% rending
mossy oyster
so 10% rending doesnt do much
but you want people to stack brittleness
which is virtually useless, because they're killing things with the power of rending
sweet beacon
that's 4 shots with any gun
and there's plenty of stupidly fast firing ones
i'd prefer it if neither of those were a thing
or at the very least super exclusive to weapons
dusky crag
I mean crafting rework assists in balancing its something they've made clear.
With no locks it means you can just change a nerfed blessing
Yippee.
sweet beacon
like how skullcrusher is a band-aid fix to some weaps
dusky crag
If that means they shoot uncanny in the future... sure.
dusky crag
I mean they might lower the rending
But I don't think it's going to be completely changed.
Also someone else pointed out
They want this patch to be a win.
They're not going to nerf anything and risk potential backlash
Later sure but now they'll just take the dub
sturdy tendon
At least getting weapons to a functional level is not gonna be so painful
I still want my PC4 power sword
dusky crag
Also the horde shooter fans as soooo accepting of nerfs right now.
See helldivers 2 all of it
Ammo funnel in payday 3
quartz barn
Ngl weapon strenght =/= general skill
dusky crag
No not at all
mossy oyster
(we know just look at plasma,PSword users)
dusky crag
Psyker is the biggest proof of that!
mossy oyster
🕴️
dusky crag
They can't count!
quartz barn
So them buffing a lot of weapons doesnt really matter, except for those that are still stuck in the vt2 days
sweet beacon
annoying for the "elitists"
what this playerbase considers an "elitist" makes me sad
sweet beacon
So them buffing a lot of weapons doesnt really matter, except for those that are...
so true
who cares if a purgatus psyker will now be able to delete crushers along with everything else
quartz barn
I mean the neutral gam is too easy sure
dusky crag
Elitist is when you acknowledge plasma gun uncharged left clicks are too strong
quartz barn
But thats because most interrupt specials can be avoided by dodging
sweet beacon
elitist is when you can survive in melee for more than 5 seconds
there isn't enough in the game to make those specials be effective though
hordes were nerfed and you can deal with shock troop specialists with no hassle now
sweet beacon
and even if they bring hordes back to where they were
the buffs will make dealing with everything a breeze
quartz barn
Its because the concept of darktide is about large hordes of enemies, so they have to be easy to kill
sweet beacon
what else would you call this discord server felk
you don't know elitist fr man
sweet beacon
Its because the concept of darktide is about large hordes of enemies, so they ha...
I LOVE LEFT 4 DEAD 2 RECRUIT
hey don't speak ill of dorn
i love him
dusky crag
I don't think this place is elitist it can be a little... anti nuance though lmfao
quartz barn
Simply destroy every barrel yourself
Especially when someone else has already primed it so you get credit for all the kills
dusky crag
I saw a post on the subreddit about the two train tracks on the mission where you pick the ammo up and it said "This is the hardest room in the game and they should change it."
And I thought...
We can have hard areas.
quartz barn
Even if it hits anyone
sweet beacon
there's train tracks?
quartz barn
Including yourself
sweet beacon
I saw a post on the subreddit about the two train tracks on the mission where yo...
i think we should stick these players in a trail of treachery ending-esque area and they're only allowed to play anything else if they can beat it
halcyon gust
I saw a post on the subreddit about the two train tracks on the mission where yo...
There's a few rooms in pubs I call "If you don't get out of this ASAP it's gonna suck"
dusky crag
God that map was tough.
sweet beacon
i love that map
mossy oyster
in the middle
quartz barn
Its the area underneath the tracks, near the end of the mission, followed by the actual 2 tracks
mossy oyster
(that area wipes so many noobs lmfao)
upper sun
I saw a post on the subreddit about the two train tracks on the mission where yo...
consignment yard?
sweet beacon
you can usually tell if pubbies are gonna make it through the end event pretty early on though
dusky crag
ascension riser BJH?
No that is one.
mossy oyster
ah
mossy oyster
OH
dusky crag
The bit before the end
mossy oyster
yeah
chrome sphinx
i think we should stick these players in a trail of treachery ending-esque area ...
that reminds me that I havent played vt2 in a long ass time
upper sun
im making my mission name flash cards
mossy oyster
wtf?
upper sun
very slowly
mossy oyster
dude
old consignment yard used to be the trenches
its not shit now
(depending on the maelstrom unironically)
sweet beacon
that reminds me that I havent played vt2 in a long ass time
honestly i'd go back to it if it didn't have EAC
upper sun
but yeah
quartz barn
Getting that skull was bs tho
chrome sphinx
honestly i'd go back to it if it didn't have EAC
if it didnt weight 120gb i would too
upper sun
i like consignment yard
quartz barn
Gunners shooting you through the floor zzzz
sweet beacon
they cut that size down a while ago
mossy oyster
I like both consignment yards
sweet beacon
i think it's like 60-70gb now
chrome sphinx
i think it's like 60-70gb now
oh wtf?
mossy oyster
(that and spawns borked)
sweet beacon
mossy oyster
so cosignment finale is mid
upper sun
is probably the easier of the 2
the ammo one just gets difficult around the drop to the trains area
halcyon gust
but the one that spawns the boss at the very end
Plague Ogryn or Chaos spawn discovering Gravity from a Zealot
quartz barn
61gb game, 20gb hadron mods
mossy oyster
the ammo one just gets difficult around the drop to the trains area
it seems the biggest problem I run into with randos or in general
is people transitioning the first set of ammo
and then getting to the next train
halcyon gust
the ammo one just gets difficult around the drop to the trains area
Delivery the ammo to the Raptor is always a bitch if you don't rush the finale
upper sun
it seems the biggest problem I run into with randos or in general
just solo it
sweet beacon
OOOOH THAT MAP
haven't that issues with it in a while, people might've finally learned
sweet beacon
still have to babysit pubbies but at least they survive a bit now
mossy oyster
I always joke the Finale is your "How good is your Psyker" check
depends on the map
but this is a funny way to look at it
upper sun
trying to farm for 500,000 kills cant leave the train
hi lfg need help with a penance can someone help me kill 500k enemies real quick just started playing level 10 rn
halcyon gust
depends on the map
Talking about the Delivering the ammo finale one
mossy oyster
(ascension riser finale where you just sit in the middle)
sweet beacon
cause psyker has OP stuff or bc the psyker is the first to go down?
mossy oyster
both
sweet beacon
good answer
mossy oyster
(I had a young soyker a few days ago fresh level 48)
bro kept smiting himself and blowing up
dusky crag
Ascension riser mid event is harder than the end
sweet beacon
i'm always amazed when people struggle with smyking correctly
chrome sphinx
(he downed himself 4 times from overloading smite)
man is listening to the voices
upper sun
had one in high shock
sweet beacon
it's like bad Mercy players.
upper sun
do player deaths reduce spawns?
mossy oyster
just threaten to eat them, that always works for me
dusky crag
Though clandestine is so much fun I love how difficult that map can be
mossy oyster
dusky crag
Keep making them thay hard
upper sun
Though clandestine is so much fun I love how difficult that map can be
I HATE NEW MAP I HATE NEW MAP
sweet beacon
no sibling dont
my beloved has shown me a beautiful castle surrounded by pink flame ❤️
mossy oyster
cladnestium needs to be permanent auric rotation
HISTG
Clandestium needs to be in more maelstroms and needs to be permanently HISTG T5 on the board
upper sun
CLADDESTINE
mossy oyster
upper sun
no
upper sun
barrel hell hell event then snooze fest
halcyon gust
Clandestium needs to be in more maelstroms *and* needs to be permanently HISTG T...
Maelstorm that Always has the more barrel modifier!
mossy oyster
barrel hell hell event then snooze fest
upper sun
people gg after middle event
sweet beacon
only people who have ASS can play clandestium
dusky crag
The only thing I don't like about clandestine is the music isn't great.
I was a little disappointed.
halcyon gust
barrel hell hell event then snooze fest
Yep. If you survive the mid event. The rest of the mission will usually go well......
chrome sphinx
The only thing I don't like about clandestine is the music isn't great.
I was a...
and the fact that they named a 40k character "swagger"
halcyon gust
Unless the director decides he personally hates you
upper sun
Yep. If you survive the mid event. The rest of the mission will usually go well....
i dont like that
chrome sphinx
who thought that was a good idea
sweet beacon
is the mid event the frozen cogs one?
halcyon gust
is the mid event the frozen cogs one?
No you're the power cycler thing
upper sun
no
upper sun
the one with no cover
mossy oyster
(if you ask me)
sweet beacon
that's so early on
halcyon gust
Barely any feasable cover
sweet beacon
yeah
halcyon gust
Gunners spawn on mass
sweet beacon
i'd call it the 2nd event
mossy oyster
that place is fucking awesome
dusky crag
1/3rd event
potent echo
It's awesome for assail users
halcyon gust
And only practical place of cover has 3 fucking spawn points on it
sweet beacon
1st event is being able to see every barrel before your team gets you off the map
and also praying there isn't a BoN
mossy oyster
1st event is being able to see every barrel before your team gets you off the ma...
thats only for us
🤫
not the pubbies
halcyon gust
Like if your Vet and/or Psyker isn't on point
halcyon gust
Prepare for a slow train ride to a wipe
mossy oyster
mossy oyster
they were roleplaying in the ship saying rashuns n shit
potent echo
Prepare for a slow train ride to a wipe
Train mentioned
potent echo
Train mission end of this month 🥳
sweet beacon
they were roleplaying in the ship saying rashuns n shit
halcyon gust
I love the void map at least from how it looks
dusky crag
I wonder what the train mission will be like
halcyon gust
God I hate how it plays
sweet beacon
kill all roleplayers
potent echo
they were roleplaying in the ship saying rashuns n shit
The most toxic kind of player
halcyon gust
Ogryns power is based on how much they dedicate to the Ogryn bit
The more they dedicate
The stronger they become
sweet beacon
The most toxic kind of player <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
unironically
sweet beacon
ogryn rp always stands still to type in chat
who cares they'll have all their toughness back in 2 hits anyway
chrome sphinx
sweet beacon
just ignore the shooters/gunners and you won't die
mossy oyster
rip to the screenshot
it was a story in a few words
(ogryns roleplaying and talking)
the ogryn I blew up off the map says wtf in all caps
leaves
sweet beacon
you should've replied "god-emperor forgive me..."
and he'd have stayed so you could kill him again
mossy oyster
dude
sweet beacon
:D
mossy oyster
unironically though
potent echo
MY CONTRITION
mossy oyster
the barrel I killed him with
was so fucked
(it was under the starting staircase)
right at the very start
perfectly placed that if you go left of it
completely voided
dusky crag
Usually role players aren't amazing but if you play well enough the compliment you and I love having my ego fed personally so they're okay
mossy oyster
my ego gets fed by clutching
(zealot moment)
I know
(or when I just 1v1 shit on bosses)
thats always a perma self ego boost
sweet beacon
my ego gets fed by clutching
same
potent echo
I've yet to properly clutch as ogin
sweet beacon
but when i do it on gun psyker it feels much better than on zealot/VoC vet
i know i earned it
mossy oyster
its cause ogryn is the most annoying to clutch with
its not tanking shit or living thats a problem
its just being overwhelmed and cant move
cause youre a fucking walking door
(also oggy dodges pretty buttcheeks)
chrome sphinx
Usually role players aren't amazing but if you play well enough the compliment y...
Its the best fucking feeling when someone actively uses VC and you play good
So they complement you
potent echo
Dodge cooldown so ass sometimes its just checkmate
mossy oyster
yep more or less
shitty dodge cooldown
trapper spawns
you have to reload
better hope your weapon is long enough
or you have ability/blitz
mossy oyster
dude not even
potent echo
The best
mossy oyster
yesterday I saw Tzeetch flamers
sweet beacon
this was on VoC but i will never stop feeling good abt it
dusky crag
Dodging into a poxwalker and getting stuck as ogryn.
Nothing feels worse.
mossy oyster
every single time someone got disabled or downed when I was playing in a 4 man yesterday
a flamer manifested
from around the corner
saw this 4 separate times in 1 mission
convinced flamers are tzeentch pilled/empowered
potent echo
It generally feels good to clutch and have 3 people just watch you do it 🫃
sweet beacon
only 2 times i've seen someone use VC was to yell really loud/complain i wasn't the one killing all gunners instantly
potent echo
If they didn't have faith in you they would have left
sweet beacon
cause they rushed the gunners headfirst and died
mossy oyster
If they didn't have faith in you they would have left
when everyone leaves and a new team comes in to you clutching
HD2 moment
chrome sphinx
cause they rushed the gunners headfirst and died
zealot players
sweet beacon
the mindfuck is that it was a vet with an exec stance build
potent echo
The GG go next of coop games
dusky crag
I think about this one.
sweet beacon
he's got really bad decision making skills
dusky crag
What did he mean by this.
mossy oyster
this was on VoC but i will never stop feeling good abt it
the real boss of the dungeon
sweet beacon
## the real boss of the dungeon ##
mossy oyster
(average zealot cosmetics)
fuck
now I have to be shirtless and find a van darkholme looking gimp mask
potent echo
the mindfuck is that it was a vet with an exec stance build
Maybe he had ghost
sweet beacon
now I have to be shirtless and find a van darkholme looking gimp mask
late to the party
potent echo
But couldn't hit his headshots
mossy oyster
late to the party
im gobling maxxing
sweet beacon
Maybe he had ghost <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
he definitely became one
mossy oyster
I run this with no shirt
(sometimes)
ive been leaving the shirt on as of recently though
sweet beacon
i think those pants look quite fancy actually
mossy oyster
and using a knife to run everywhere
sweet beacon
already have 1/3 of a warhammer fantasy soldier fit with it
mossy oyster
also these are the only gimp infinity stones I have for now
3
(i think im missing 2-3 more)
sweet beacon
the black hood w chain one is peak gimp tbh
sweet beacon
yeah i don't have it cause i couldn't be shirtless when it was out
mossy oyster
sweet beacon
then again i don't get many cosmetics for zealot
mostly played psyker/vet until i got really bored of vet
sweet beacon
got that chest too, so fucking nice
potent echo
Paid cosmetics all poopy greys 
sweet beacon
zealot gets the best cosmetics usually
dusky crag
That looks nice
mossy oyster
ty
also zealot and soyker have the best drip
veteran and ogryn have been winning recently though
(soyker needs to stop getting toilet lids and needs more, blindfolds/capes)
dusky crag
Psykers have such good drip makes me jealous as a vet main
azure bridge
psykers get a toilet bowl half the time
sweet beacon
except for the ugly mask that steals your beard and makes you bald
azure bridge
the only one I could stomach was the krieg set, and the enforcer set
azure bridge
imagine trying to sit down with one of those things on
I remember that movie, minus the stupid bullet physics it wasn't all that bad
dusky crag
I don't think psykers comfort is prioritised by the imperium
azure bridge
i'm not even talking about comfort, i'm talking about practicality
sweet beacon
if the psyker complains about comfort that means they're falling to slaanesh (excess)
i mean that def looks like it either augments their power or protects them from daemons
azure bridge
IIRC the cowl is for just that
sweet beacon
bowl does it better 🖕
azure bridge
enhances psyker's powers and blows their head off on demonic possession
sweet beacon
i am removing the cowl on all my fits
upper sun
MISS ME WITH THAT SHIT
potent echo
Free ASS
upper sun
also i am currently 400 mgs of caffeine away from being able to play correctly
potent echo
The verb
mossy oyster
this dude needs PEDs to play
quartz barn
No mostly scab melee i sleep 
upper sun
this dude needs PEDs to play
yes
mossy oyster
No mostly scab melee i sleep <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
its clandestium
other than that maelstrom sucks
upper sun
i wish i had clips from when i had addies
sweet beacon
<@244173531129053194>
fuck i wish i could get on
upper sun
I played like a GOD
quartz barn
its clandestium
And?
mossy oyster
peak map
quartz barn
True
mossy oyster
clandestium having the spawns actually work until the travel box
jumpscares people
when it gets on maelstrom rotation
(even though thats what maelstrom used to be was just constant shit flinging)
quartz barn
That part is fun
quartz barn
That area is just a giant firing lane
sweet beacon
that's a nice jacket i wonder where he got it from
upper sun
🤓 ummm thats from a movie
jovial juniper
Damn, that's hardcore then
upper sun
pull out flamer
pull out time reduction for flamer and bolter best day of my life
ornate hamlet
pull out time reduction for flamer and bolter best day of my life
is this a sex thing
mossy oyster
pull out time reduction for flamer and bolter best day of my life
literally just use tknife
noob
brazen rampart
Why don't you put your blitz on Q and use 1 and 2 to swap between your weapons?
It's what I did to make tknives easier to use.
sinful peak
not having blitz on mouse 
strong gulch
Just put wield blitz on mouse scroll down and have Q to swap for melee and tab for ranged swap. Don't forget your ability on mouse 5 and push to talk on middle mouse button.
You too can be constantly confused.
mossy oyster
tzeentch button layout, sibling
brazen rampart
https://tenor.com/view/dog-walk-away-weirdo-touch-gif-26494423
There is literally nothing wrong with my button layout...
strong gulch
Weapon special on C and dodge on mouse 4. Make ping E and yell about the DH on T.
strong gulch
Sounds like a hinged choice.
sinful peak
X is pretty perfect
can't use it while moving right
sinful peak
you never press D?
quartz barn
I have weapon special on m4 and ping on m5, for ease of use
But apparently im one of the rare few to still have sprint on shift with crouch on ctrl
quartz barn
I can understand why most swap crouch to something like c tho
brazen rampart
I can't.
My pinky isn't doing anything anyway.
Crouch and sprint are the job it does.
If I take those away, what will it do?
strong gulch
Mod buttons maybe.
My sprint and crouch are still shift and control.
P, T, Alt, F5, 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 0 are all mod related. The numbers are all for the meat grinder or true solo mod.
sinful peak
sprint on shift, dodge on alt and crouch on space
strong gulch
oh yeah. gotta have jump on its own button
sinful peak
I have it on tab cause I legit never use it