psyker-class

[plucky flax]

Or yeah maybe it'll lock out the other option.

[summer prairie]

isn't the rule that you can't go back upwards

[plucky flax]

Tru dat.

[mighty cipher]

I doubt they'll change the locking

[zinc phoenix]

L A M E if true

[plucky flax]

It's not going back up though.

They are pararellel.

But one might lock out the other indeed.

[potent echo]

theres such a rule?

[summer prairie]

ok yeah maybe not

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1281636276541587529/328ff0e6606d395114877e824bf0beaa79927f4a.jpg?ex=66ddc1cb&is=66dc704b&hm=4868758c57c68c39d6ebd331069024c24d344fb3e73c3b42f5768f8b4df9cae6&

getting to the bottom with the traditional path with no wildfire is 28 points

[summer prairie]

I'm assuming you can get them all based on how other class trees work

[upper sun]

the 3 pain nodes at the bottom need to be unified

[tight seal]

man, smite and bubble shield is such a chill playstyle

[upper sun]

better question is why do you want all of them?

[summer prairie]

only psychic vampire+in fire reborn sound tempting

[upper sun]

if i could on surge for example id only take damage and extra charges

[summer prairie]

eh, they probably lock

since they also do that currently

[plucky flax]

Try smite and creeping flames for more killing power during smite. Also to elongate the channel time.

[tight seal]

should i pair that with empowered psionics or warp siphon?

[plucky flax]

EP!!

[tight seal]

ty i'll give it a try

[plucky flax]

And pick battle medication too.

Keep in mind you need to cast creeping flames at above 84% peril for 6 stacks of soulblaze.

[tight seal]

oh i thought it was 100 okay that's good info thanks

[mighty cipher]

What is a small step that I could be missing when it comes to getting vortex to work? I have factory reset everything I can find and nothing is working.

The in-game mod menu appears, but none of the mods

[jovial juniper]

Oh, still able to get KD, what a relief

[upper sun]

idk warp siphon is still bloated

imo 23 needs to be removed

[potent echo]

What's the node beside warp rider?

[upper sun]

shit

i forgot warp rider

make that 29 to get to the bottom

yeah

warp siphon still too fat

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

[summer prairie]

29 to get to the bottom while arbitrarily taking other extra nodes (?)

[potent echo]

Wait holdup

You can get crit aura and creeping now

[summer prairie]

yes

[potent echo]

But SG so good

[summer prairie]

I'm probably getting that with blaze trauma

[potent echo]

Nuh uh

Blaze trauma yea

[patent mango]

melee psyker build will be so real

[potent echo]

Melee goonker

[jovial juniper]

Hoo boy, time to see the psykers without melee basis going in and dying

(it's going to be hilarious)

[near wyvern]

Yes and no. High risk, mid reward.

[radiant frigate]

i'm doing it

[jovial juniper]

Hmm, wait for that tree to drop so I can thinker with tank psyker

[radiant frigate]

glorious melee combat is its own reward

[patent mango]

idk i already mostly used saber beforehand

this will just make that better

[mighty cipher]

Please god can anyone help me. I'm losing my mind and am about to just go back to manual installation.

[plucky flax]

Wut? crit aura over cdr aura with blaze trauma? :

[summer prairie]

did they ever fix the cdr applying twice

[patent mango]

im gonna be honest vortex never works for me i just do manual

[near wyvern]

More crit is room lit

[restive ice]

yeah same

[mighty cipher]

I'm putting whoever told me to use vortex on a crucifix

[plucky flax]

I also do my mods manually.

[patent mango]

vortex is horrible for some reason

[plucky flax]

This game is not a single player rpg game to be using a mod manager with it.

[radiant frigate]

more blaze

[plucky flax]

Creeping flames is blaze too.

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[summer prairie]

eh, I guess if you want crit aura you have grab an extra passive node too so not worth

[latent mauve]

It is vortex

That is the reason

[potent echo]

Manual is

[patent mango]

incredible

[plucky flax]

I use vortex for cp2077 it works there.

[summer prairie]

well not with assail blaze trauma

[short lily]

so did psykers get anything from the patchnotes

[upper sun]

vortex only works in the UK

[potent echo]

People put in alot of work with the curated packages etc

[patent mango]

a lot

[plucky flax]

I tried vortex when it first came out about 5 years ago. It improved so much since.

[radiant frigate]

hell yes

melee psyker support

[patent mango]

new talents, heavy sword and a few guns

[plucky flax]

But for bethesda games mod organiser 2 is still goated.

[radiant frigate]

(and gunker support)

[upper sun]

ye same idc what dark0ne does for it

[short lily]

i meant staff psykers

[upper sun]

im still not gonna use it

[patent mango]

new talents

[radiant frigate]

staff psykers will no longer explode on accident with SG

[restive ice]

mo2 the goat

[plucky flax]

Nexus even poached the guy that made wabbajack to make modlist install for vortex.

[upper sun]

wabbajack is also mid

[plucky flax]

It works okay actually but for installing skyrim modlistwabbajack is still better.

Why is it mid? It's so easy.

Do you have nexus premium?

If you don't then yeah you'll be in pain.

[upper sun]

the UI looks awful

[latent mauve]

Imagine paying nexus

[plucky flax]

You are very mean. 😦

[latent mauve]

[upper sun]

also i kinda dropped bethesda

[plucky flax]

Wut I have nexus lifetime subscription.

So worth it.

[latent mauve]

I have one for free

[upper sun]

after the last couple of updates for skyrim that bricked all the old mods ruined it for me

[plucky flax]

Do they still offer the plan?

I heard no right?

[latent mauve]

did some back end work and got it for free

[plucky flax]

I got mine back in 2014.

One of the best purchase ever.

I support local UK company.

[upper sun]

no way im paying nexus they dont have all my sex mods

[upper sun]

man if i were you id go find the guy and pay him in cash in exchange for free premium

fuck taxes

[plucky flax]

I paid in 2016 actually I lied.

Right so you can still get lifetime subscription if you are a modder.

So go and make some lewd mods to get clicks.

[upper sun]

🤔

what if i made 2 mods 8 years ago?

[plucky flax]

I think your mods need to have 10k downloads or something.

[upper sun]

😭

[plucky flax]

To enable the option to get lifetime.

Make nude mods for SM2.

Since it's the new and latest game.

[upper sun]

ikr

[restive ice]

get that titussy

[upper sun]

free money printer

oh yeah i made a loading screen skipper for SM1

[lethal lagoon]

Is there info on the new shriek option?

I mean it'll still be worse than creeping flames, because they decided to buff one of the most OP mechniacs in the game.

But I'm curious

[upper sun]

what the actual fuck some asshole made my exact same mod 4 months after i did

it has more upboats IT HAS MORE UPBOATS

[lethal lagoon]

Also, what the fuck.

Vet and zealot get dueling sword

Where's our power sword and thammer?

[upper sun]

rending purge

[lethal lagoon]

Zealot got that too

[upper sun]

thrust ds4

new must have blessings lets gooo

[lethal lagoon]

Still waiting for all the blessing collection to only equal level 5 mastery

[upper sun]

ur copmaxxing

[lethal lagoon]

Come on fatshark, be incompetent in a way I want you to.

You have the experience.

You have the skill.

I believe

I NEED THIS

[hollow current]

really they should have taken all the weapons from zealot except the hatchet and auto pistol

[lethal lagoon]

Zealot shouldn't have a melee weapon.

Use their fists for the emperor

Like true believers

[upper sun]

hammer

[radiant frigate]

monk subclass unlocked

punch for the emperor

[lethal lagoon]

Subclass, only class

[potent echo]

Speaking of SAP

Where the SAP buffs

[plucky flax]

I don't think thrust is must have on ds4. It won't let you 1 shot crusher without any prior uncanny buff.

But maybe in scab melee only against crushers pack once you get 5 stacks of uncanny then it'd 1 poke at the head.

[summer prairie]

comfy mutant one-shot though

[plucky flax]

I am veri skilled so I soften mutie with my staff first before poking head.

[summer prairie]

not allowed

[plucky flax]

Tru

[sturdy tendon]

Would be nice to have with rending purge though for Mutie one shots

[plucky flax]

Rending burgatus? Rending doesn't increase maniac damage anyway.

[sturdy tendon]

Nah, the purge would deal with the crushers

DS4 for muties

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah. We need to actually see how much rending it gives though!

[summer prairie]

it's only 20% rending max right now

[plucky flax]

Could be 20%. Could be 40%.

Could be meme.

[sturdy tendon]

Whenever I play Illisi I am missing that Mutie one shot

Love how easy it is to deal with them on DS4

But Surge has shit horde clear, so Illisi it is

[summer prairie]

nearly everything is going to have good horde clear with the cleave node

well exaggerating a bit, the cleave damage will still be bad for most

[plucky flax]

If you have 5 slaughterer stack you can 1 shot mutie with illisi!

Otherwise it's 2 shots which is not the worst.

[sturdy tendon]

I usually just spam charged Surge attacks, so yeah, ain't happening

Also no Slaughterer 4

[plucky flax]

Then you can heavy special when it drives by, then follow up with a special light.

[sturdy tendon]

Only Force Sword tier 4 blessing I am missing

[plucky flax]

Not 1 shot like deimos or ds4 but it's still okay!

[summer prairie]

it can be 1 shot like your ds4 is 1 shot

[plucky flax]

Just spam staff left click yeah.

[potent echo]

will tacaxe be real

[upper sun]

no

[plucky flax]

I dunno why people don't do it when the mutie is running in a straight line at you.

[potent echo]

[upper sun]

rashad only

[plucky flax]

Soften it up for easier 1 shot.

[sturdy tendon]

I usually like to stun it with Surge

[potent echo]

pray for crits easier, beloved emperor

[plucky flax]

If your surge has maniac like mine it's not too terrible against mutie.

[sturdy tendon]

It's especially funny if I have a fellow Surg psyker on my party

[plucky flax]

Maybe 3 shots with crit, or 4 shots.

[blissful solar]

i can 99% one-shot a mutant, bro stil persists with like a sliver of hp bar (no buffs)

[sturdy tendon]

Then all the muties get stunned

[summer prairie]

Surge surge can probably kill the mutant with just lmb spam

[potent echo]

isnt staff lmb bad maniac adm

also terrible unyielding adm

[plucky flax]

Surge surge when it doesn't work on right click.

[sturdy tendon]

Really hole it does

[potent echo]

believe

[sturdy tendon]

But Warp Flurry is pretty fun to play with though

[potent echo]

unless it in the source code already?

[sturdy tendon]

Unlike Warp Flurry on the Burge

[plucky flax]

Yeah I really like warp flurry on surge.

So I dunno.

[sturdy tendon]

Feels like a useless blessing on the purge

[plucky flax]

On burga I'm dropping flurry for blaze away 100%.

[summer prairie]

with maniac and some buffs, lmb is easily over 1000 damage per surge proc

vs mutant

[upper sun]

blaze away rending im dropping both

[plucky flax]

No nexus?

[summer prairie]

without headshots, just crit

[sturdy tendon]

I wonder how blaze away will work

Maybe it will make left clicks good dps

[upper sun]

NO NEXUS

[potent echo]

nexus uwu

[sturdy tendon]

And then you'll have both the stagger and damage

[plucky flax]

Nexus is good on burga idunno

[summer prairie]

do you want flurry or nexus with blazing

[plucky flax]

Make it go fast to 15/16 stacks.

[summer prairie]

flurry is probably more damage

[potent echo]

nexus blazeaway seems to be the go to

[upper sun]

i have like 4 good surges

[sturdy tendon]

I don't want Flurry at all on burger

[upper sun]

ill try each combo

[summer prairie]

you get to full charge quicker

[plucky flax]

No flurry on burga.

Let it slow cook.

[upper sun]

ye flurry with burgers is a bit much

[sturdy tendon]

Flurry requires you to constantly right click with no pause

You take a 1 second pause and all those Flurry stacks are just gone

[summer prairie]

you can just min charge to get the stacks back quick

anyway the point is after the patch it has good interaction with blaze away

[strong gulch]

There is enough time to quell then keep purging or surge staffing with with flurry. It's not the biggest window but it can be don't without tons of effort.

It's gonna be nice to have different options.

I hope they are impactful at least. There's not way any of these new blessings are gonna be as bad as terrible barrage... right?

🙏

[sturdy tendon]

The rending one looks pretty powerful, 4% rending per soulblaze

But blaze away is what actually interests me in how it works

[jovial juniper]

Use terrifying Surge on the horde, suppress groaners, use 10% attack speed to attack those cowards

[near wyvern]

I will not start debating over the blessings before I get my hands on them. It is very likely half of them won't actually do what the description says.

[broken carbon]

lmfao

true!

[buoyant maple]

Purgatus stuff looks strong, but idk how that rending actually works

I think it’s gonna work as brittleness (debuff on enemy inflicted by Soulblaze)

Not rending (self buff)

[summer prairie]

it doesn't have anything to do with soulblaze, it applies a separate debuff when purgatus hits targets

[buoyant maple]

If it works as a debuff, then it’s brittleness

[clear heath]

i assume it's brittleness

[summer prairie]

it applies rending_multiplier yes

[buoyant maple]

Rending is explicitly self-buff (improves global damage)

Like how uncanny strike buffs all of ur damage

[summer prairie]

it's the same debuff as e.g. the trauma blessing

[buoyant maple]

Then it’s brittleness

But coded in a weird way that doesn’t follow brittleness’ stack logic

Ofc fatshark

[restive ice]

[plucky flax]

Can you check rending on trauma what number does it say there?

Because rending trauma does 40%.

[strong gulch]

True.

Also of course the blessings won't do as described.

[plucky flax]

Unless that currently says 40% and on this blessing it says 20%.

[buoyant maple]

Trauma rending shockwave is 2.5%/stack, max 16 stacks, apply 8 stacks at IV

Takes 2 hits to max 40% brittle

Purgatus rend says 4% rend to Soulblaze-inflicted enemies

But it’s very clearly not a self-buff

Unless it is and they coded some new arcane stuff up

[strong gulch]

When I LMB main, I use terrible barrage for horde clear.

I just wish it worth on infested mobs.

[amber vortex]

It could be based on who owns the burn stack

[broken carbon]

terrifying barrage

[amber vortex]

Players can add to a burn stack, but only the owner can modify the DoT with things like rending

[broken carbon]

JUST KILL THEM!!!!

[summer prairie]

Here's both of them

[buoyant maple]

The only thing that did anything off another Psyker’s Soulblaze is In Fire Reborn and it procs off any Soulblaze by any Psyker

[summer prairie]

it doesn't have anything to do with burn or soulblaze stacks

[buoyant maple]

Ok so they coded smth new up

[plucky flax]

Looks like 20% to me.

[clear heath]

just found a random image of one on the server

[summer prairie]

you aren't going to get any stacks by using venting shriek while holding purg

[plucky flax]

[clear heath]

According to fatshark from patch 13, this is how rending is supposed to be for both player and target rending. It's supposed to always be in multiples of 2.5% and capped at 16 stacks. I assume when rending shockwave says 5% capped at 8 stacks, they're really just doing 2x that internally

[strong gulch]

Is rending shockwave on trauma finally getting up the values it's supposed to. I just woke up, so brains are iffy.

But I remember something about it only getting up to have of the benefit it's supposed to.

[summer prairie]

it does 8 stacks per proc for a max of 16

but yeah I don't understand what that 80% is talking about

[clear heath]

wait what 80%? You mean the screenshot i sent?

It's just the cap of total rending from all sources. My screenshot was just about rending mechanics in general, not trauma specifically

so you could get like 40% rending from brittleness and 40% rending from self buffs, like uncanny.
Might be outdated though, this was notes from like 3 patches ago

[buoyant maple]

Self-buff rending is a little different and doesn’t work off stacks of 2.5%

It ends at 100%

But if rending makes ADM go above 100%, it converts into +damage at 0.25x value

[clear heath]

Did they change it? The post actually says for both player/target rending

[buoyant maple]

Well, uncanny strike is not multiples of 2.5%

And uncanny strike is self-buff rending

[clear heath]

maybe it got changed since then

too many patch notes to sift through

[plucky flax]

After patch you can use debuff indicator to see how bad burga rending is.

[buoyant maple]

Brittleness (debuff) is stacks of 2.5%, max 16 stacks

[summer prairie]

it's probably not that bad for your team but certainly bad for purg

[buoyant maple]

I’m leaning towards blaze + nexus for purgatus if blaze doesn’t take unnaturally long to stack

[plucky flax]

Rending trauma is bad when you can just use blaze trauma and kill everything faster by yourself.

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think 20% rending bonus is enough to outcompete blaze away on a weapon ur meant to spam continuously

[plucky flax]

Same situation would apply here. By the time the brittleness stacks are up at max cap stuff already died.

[buoyant maple]

Besides meme melting crushers

[summer prairie]

right but the second blessing on purg probably isn't a big deal

I'm not going to run rending but it's not bad

only blaze away is a must if it works as expected

[plucky flax]

If they take blaze away from currently zealot flamer and apply to burga then it's a bit slow.

And hopefully keep holding on right click for a new puff doesn't reset the stacks.

[summer prairie]

I imagine it hits max power after you've used half of your charge

[clear heath]

How fast does blaze away stack?

or do we not know how it would work for the weapon?

[plucky flax]

Like a stack every second currently on flamer.

But on other weapons it's faster.

On 1 shot weapon like ogryn rumbler it's per shot.

[clear heath]

I guess we'd need to have it to know

[plucky flax]

So I dunno if they make it per left click as well for burga, then channel/continuous channel for right click.

[summer prairie]

10% of "magazine" spent and up to 5 stacks of continuous fire

[plucky flax]

If it resets between each channel then it's weird.

[summer prairie]

would make sense to replace magazine with charge

[clear heath]

50% of a full charge of purga would take some time though

[summer prairie]

sure, but you get benefits earlier

[clear heath]

I think the rending purg thing might just be for those people who are taking that cluster of melee nodes, with that "kill enemy with soulblaze" thing

so i guess the idea is if you're pathing there, you're grabbing a bunch of melee stuff
so you're basically just burning and then swapping to melee

[upper sun]

is the age of keystoneless psyker upon us?

maybe were gonna end up with just the handle bars

[clear heath]

I was thinking about that too. There's so many nodes now

[summer prairie]

it's only 5 seconds of rending though

[upper sun]

so is uncanny

and people still run it

[clear heath]

burn for rending, kill burning enemy for crit
seems like the loop they're aiming for

not sure if that's gonna actually be good

but it seems like the intention here

[summer prairie]

granted it does likely get to max stacks almost immediately

but still, 20%

[clear heath]

gotta path all the way here for fun stuff

malefic builds eating good though

[plucky flax]

It's on the right so you lose out on wildfire and psykenetic aura.

[summer prairie]

why

it's expensive but you can get all

it's a flat line now

[plucky flax]

Very expensive.

[clear heath]

Has anyone tried to theorycraft builds with the screenshot of the talent tree yet?

[plucky flax]

My current burga build already have no warp battery.

[clear heath]

I tried earlier but it's so hard to not want literally everything

[plucky flax]

Because I ran out of points.

[clear heath]

so many good options now

[plucky flax]

So with this new tree my burga build can get warp battery so that's good.

[buoyant maple]

Warp charges got their positions changed, prob more efficient to path through now

[summer prairie]

you have to drop wildfire now for actual good stuff instead of imaginary good stuff

[clear heath]

having too many good options is objectively a good thing but i'm too greedy

[buoyant maple]

Yea
Blaze trauma tho

[plucky flax]

I am running wildfire with burga 100%.

[upper sun]

you get 1 extra talent point going by the old path

[strong gulch]

I'm forked then.

[plucky flax]

Goated soulblaze talent.

[strong gulch]

Node goblin

[summer prairie]

how is the new mettle going to work with purg

the same as before?

[clear heath]

I don't think it's gonna matter

[summer prairie]

since it shoots hundreds of little bullets

[plucky flax]

The same. The stacks apply 1 per hit is for the speed buff. The toughness gain per crit should remain the same.

[cosmic sigil]

do we have a screenshot of the revamped tree and the name of each node?

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/cia-bane-baneposting-batman-foryou-gif-4973985

why would fatshark change a talent before revamping the whole tree?

[buoyant maple]

Same as before, they just limited the move speed buff to not stack multiple times in 1 attack instance

But purgatus is multiple attack instance

[clear heath]

I haven't seen one with the names of each, but you can kinda guess what the new nodes are

[plucky flax]

You still get instant toughness per crit I would think.

[clear heath]

The patch notes say generally where the nodes are

[plucky flax]

It's me I am CIA.

[summer prairie]

where does it say it's only for the speed buff

[upper sun]

knew it

[plucky flax]

Hello Dr. Pavel.

[upper sun]

SPAIN?

[summer prairie]

like if you use mettle with trauma, you only get 5% toughness with a crit rather than 5% toughness per enemy it hits

[clear heath]

yeah that's what i assumed as well

[plucky flax]

No I assume the toughness regeneration works the same as it is now.

Per enemy.

[summer prairie]

why

[plucky flax]

They just do the stack for the speed buff.

[summer prairie]

???

because it says stacks?

[plucky flax]

What does the code say? Does it tie the toughness into the stacks gain?

[summer prairie]

I think the patch notes are just worded poorly, it makes much more sense to nerf the per hit for toughness gain

[plucky flax]

Or is it a separate calculation?

[summer prairie]

so you don't get 1000000000% toughness per trauma crit

[plucky flax]

Well nobody even play blaze trauma.

[summer prairie]

fair

but regular trauma

with rending, they have to nerf that

[potent echo]

mettle is cancelled

[upper sun]

NOOOOOO

[plucky flax]

Nah wait and see.

You are just speculating.

Because I am not running soulstealer on my blaze trauma build... So if mettle is truly nerfed I'm fucked.

[summer prairie]

it's over

warp expenditure time

[potent echo]

just dont get hit

[strong gulch]

Cringe 4 warp charge blaze truama for you it is then.

[cosmic sigil]

By Crack of Bone
Melee Weakspot Kills Quell 5% Peril and Reduce further Peril Generation by 20% for 4s. > this should be fun with a scryer caxe / hsword bm

[azure bridge]

Is the DS mk5 any good?

[cosmic sigil]

good mobility

[plucky flax]

No.

[upper sun]

wait is unlucky for some getting removed?

[strong gulch]

Yeah. It's good. It's got the best mobility of the the 3 DS options. Careful about having high mobility and defenses tho, they have a good bit of overlap.

It's not as strong as the DS4 or DS2, but it's still pretty strong.

[potent echo]

with thrust it might be slightly less shit

[plucky flax]

Careful you don't dodge yourself off ledge.

It has giga dodge.

[azure bridge]

I like giga dodge...

I'll give it a spin

[potent echo]

giga ledge

[clear heath]

Here, I made one with my best guesses.
Surety of Arms and Tranquility of Slaughter might be swapped, idk.

[plucky flax]

You can side dodge and outrun everything in game.

[potent echo]

tbf you can do this with FS too

[thin finch]

I brainsploded everywhere

[plucky flax]

Deimos? It has good dodge but no where near ds5 giga dodge level.

[potent echo]

yea but still faster than horde

good enough in my

[plucky flax]

[azure bridge]

How's it compare to mk6 knife?

[thin finch]

Wait I just noticed the psyker part but isn"t this like a giga psyker buff ?

[cosmic sigil]

they gave ds to zealot and vet and they buffed psword and plasma

soooooo

[strong gulch]

Especially if you have movement speed buffs. DD kicks in and you yeet yourself.

[cosmic sigil]

but yeah psyker eating good i think

[plucky flax]

I like it on burga or blaze trauma for repositioning.

[thin finch]

I am not happy about sharing my toy but tbh non force weapon being mode widely available is okay methink

ah scheise still not being able to have my crack crystal spreading fire

Malefic Momentum buff, gunker eating real good

[strong gulch]

Oh neat. The non-KD enjoyers won't have to take KD now.

[thin finch]

also less consuming warp stack

4 point instead of 5 if you want 6 stack + dmg bonus

anti-Crusher purgatus ?

(still probably not I hope but eh )

[clear heath]

I might just make a rending purg staff for a malefic build

The more i think about it, the more fun it sounds

[autumn smelt]

Source code suggests that it goes up to 20% rending

[thin finch]

it's already available ?

[autumn smelt]

The source code has existed for months

[thin finch]

yeah but I did not knwo the one for the nextupdate was already available to dig into ,or the blessing was in the code and now is made available ?

[verbal thistle]

Wait for update

[autumn smelt]

The blessing has just been there along with many other stuff for a while
No it's not available yet in game, but the source code for it already exists

[thin finch]

Ok

[thin finch]

so it stack at 20 and you get more stack perk burn stacks applied I guess

and it refresh

wait it's rending ? it read like brittleness

[late sapphire]

huh

ds4 zealot

[strong gulch]

ye

The zealots are quaking.

[jovial juniper]

With Thrust as well

[radiant frigate]

imagine on ogryn

[strong gulch]

Actual toothpick.

[plucky flax]

Hrm... 10% attack speed would make thrust stack up faster too.

However I think I'll be very based and run riposte rampage on my gunker ds4 build with.

[strong gulch]

Does zealot have or will have nodes that can increase cleave or whatever to make better or easier use of rampage on DS?

[plucky flax]

They have momentum keystone.

That increase power and attack speed I think.

Let me check if it's damage or power.

Oh it's damage. So no cleave.

[strong gulch]

I was just thinking of the run fast keystone with the DS5.

[strong gulch]

gotcha. I wonder how impact nodes will affect DS,

[plucky flax]

I think zealot though have so many melee damage increase stuff.

They'll clear horde still decently well.

Duellist would go very strong with ds4 too.

Actually piety is also not bad for ds4 rampage thrust zealot. A lot of crit chance, so you don't need uncanny to destroy crushers.

But honestly knife and antax/rashad are unchanged so zealots still OP in melee with those 2 weapons. Just extra options for them for fun now.

[azure bridge]

i do love my rashad axe

[jovial juniper]

Martyrdom making those heavies go fast af boy

[plucky flax]

Psyker still best.

They steal our weapon.

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker get's a warp hammer or we riot

Unironically, psyker having a solid anti-boss melee would make it so OP.

[wind spruce]

You little bitch

I @ u about it and you STILL haven't mentioned the staff lmb talents

What have you become

[strong gulch]

[wind spruce]

If we interpret the patch notes as they are written, it's clear the mettle nerf only applies to the movement speed imo. It seems like a huge stretch to essentially say, "well maybe they worded it like idiots and this is what they actually mean based on my interpretation of what's too strong."

I don't even think it makes sense to nerf the toughness gain to one critical attack. That effects purg, void, surge and guns with penetration too.

Whereas making the movement speed speed stack per attack makes sense from a how you'd expect it to work rather than balance perspective

[lethal lagoon]

The @ just vanished and I was too lazy to look it up

I don't like having to RMB to get LMB buffs

that goes agaisnt my code

my nindo way

[wind spruce]

You can still get up to a juicy 30% damage on successive hits

[lethal lagoon]

But the best LMB is still locked behind using RMB

I'll be too busy running blaze trauma, Surge Surge, and Zealot Ds4 to LMB-only for a while

Well I guess Surge Surge might be my LMB build if they don't let it work on RMB

[wind spruce]

You're right. We need to boycott this patch

[lethal lagoon]

Nah I'm good, I don't have a lot going on later this month.

[wind spruce]

Lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Gamers have literally never successfully boycotted a good game.

And they never will

[worthy kayak]

Psykers next patch:

[lethal lagoon]

That's a little too FLAMboyent for me.

[wind spruce]

The boycott after Shadows of Change came out for total war warhammer III has made CA totally change how they're doing things

.
Warp Unbound: (As a modifier to Scrier’s Gaze)
Scrier’s Gaze prevents you from overloading from Perils of the Warp during its lingering effect.

I'm gonna say this everyday until the patch; this is the most broken buff ever and assail gunker is going to eat incredibly hard

[plucky flax]

Imagine playing blaze trauma.

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine doing everything possible to get a perfect blaze trauma and now literally everyone can have one for almost no effort.

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

If the DLC was better, people would have played anyways.

[plucky flax]

Still got best blaze trauma world wide for a year.

[lethal lagoon]

I don't remember that

It's only for a month at most

[late sapphire]

surge surge...

[plucky flax]

However I am not gakekeeper.

I enjoy it when others can also have access to good weapons.

[late sapphire]

if it works with rmb it'll just be double damage no?

[wind spruce]

It didn't make the game bad though, it just added some sub par content

[idle plover]

i could see becoming surge staff spammer with that

[lethal lagoon]

So it wasn't a boycott

People just literally didn't buy an unfun product

[wind spruce]

I dont

I'm mad about zealot getting DS

[lethal lagoon]

[late sapphire]

we should start kicking ds zealots

[plucky flax]

[late sapphire]

for theft

[wind spruce]

No. It was a boycott driven by players and content creators to leave the game until changes were made.

[plucky flax]

If vet not sharing power sword we shouldn't share ds.

[wind spruce]

Plenty of those people had bought shadows of change

[wind spruce]

Absolutely

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah I participated in this. I still haven't bought shadows of change.

And I owned every previous dlc from all total war warhammer games up to that point.

Also I dunno. I haven't played warhammer 3 sicne launch. But when it launched it was just... not as good as warhammer 2.

It should be better now there had been so many updates since.

[lethal lagoon]

I'm sure it would have worked if the DLC was fun to play

[idle plover]

but yes next patch im excited for lawbringer shotty psyker and ds vet

did psykers any new skill include reload speed buffs?

[wind spruce]

Yeah they fucked a lot of stuff up, mainly for me the AI is just too underpowered

[wind spruce]

But... there wouldn't have been need for a boycott if the content was good.

[lethal lagoon]

Have you ever played a warhammer mod for mount and blade?

Cause that beats any crap total war put out for warhammer by a mile

[plucky flax]

Warhammer 2 toward the end of its life leading up to warhammer 3 release was just so good.

[wind spruce]

Not yet

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's hard to beat that

Getting truly fucked on by the order tide

[lethal lagoon]

yes

[plucky flax]

I loved it so much. 2k hours on a single player game.

[wind spruce]

"Where the fuck do these goddamn dwarves doom stacks keep popping up from"

[lethal lagoon]

That's pretty au-australian.

Do I have even 1k in any singleplayer game

Hmm

[wind spruce]

I have 5k hours but I also just leave the game running way too much

[plucky flax]

Yeah I doubt you have actual 5k hours. XD

[lethal lagoon]

How do you sort steam games by playtime?

[plucky flax]

Unless you're legend of total war.

[wind spruce]

I'd say it's closer to 2k for sure lel

[zinc phoenix]

I sure don’t, 80% were not worth it

[lethal lagoon]

If you count console, I got 1k+ on Dragon's Dogma

God I loved that game

Sadge the sequel was pretty mid.

[zinc phoenix]

wh3 is ok but sieges are very dull

[upper sun]

oh i dont drink and smoke :3333

[wind spruce]

I don't have enough self control to not buy them if I'm playing the game

[upper sun]

PAYS FOR NEXUS PREMIUM AND EVERY WARHAMMER DLC

[lyric burrow]

Idk what my most played single player game is

[zinc phoenix]

Sieges are like the one thing TW pharaoh did well hilariously

[lyric burrow]

Oh its ER

Duh

[plucky flax]

Just be rich.

[lyric burrow]

1.2k hours

[wind spruce]

I do all of these things

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️ I only buy stuff that I know I’ll actually play and I have no interest in most of the factions. “Wowee be a rat” 🚮

[upper sun]

there is no amount of money on the planet thats enough to make me pay for total war dlc

[wind spruce]

Better than most of the playerbase: "wowee be a German"

[plucky flax]

I lied. I have shadow of change now. The only 3 missing are the newest dlcs.

I am total war warhamemr simp.

[lethal lagoon]

My steam hours are casual shit, too much console and WoW gaming

[zinc phoenix]

Elspeth was pretty fun

Malaki was annoying as fuck, wish I could refund

Also dead easy

[upper sun]

i dont think my entire life has 5k left of warhammer total war in it

[wind spruce]

I came back for the latest dlc and also bought up shadows of change and the one before it like a simp.

I played for about 5 hours then remembered I now find it boring (woops)

[upper sun]

(gaming hours)

[zinc phoenix]

Tamurkhan I thought would be cool but the recruitment system made my head hurt

[lethal lagoon]

IroskTheSimp

[wind spruce]

Tamurkhan was boring because my rot knights could solo entire armies

[lethal lagoon]

You have to change your name

It's the law

[latent mauve]

Price in pounds but you sound European

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah idk what that is

I just wasn’t willing to figure him out

[plucky flax]

[wind spruce]

I would've done it just for you

[plucky flax]

I'm CIA.

[wind spruce]

But if it's the law, then no

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Compromise.

[fresh reef]

shoutout to uprising, gotta be one of my favorite diffculties

[zinc phoenix]

I agree tho the biggest problem with wh3 is they want you to feel super badass and powerful but all it does is make things boring

[strong gulch]

being selfish in psyop

[plucky flax]

I wonder how much it cost for a brand new warhammer player to buy all 3 games and all dlcs.

[upper sun]

me force pushing a dog through the wall for 4 mintes while my team does the event

[plucky flax]

I want to say upward of more than $200.

[wind spruce]

Idk I didn't get far enough in to get much use out of the 5 unique heroes thing, the conditions take awhile to fulfill

[late sapphire]

0$

[lethal lagoon]

Probably like $20 for a sale for the whole collection

[wind spruce]

Exactly, you just stomp everything with no meaningful resistance now. Legendary was actually a challenge in WH2

[plucky flax]

Maybe in 30 years.

[ashen schooner]

yea I've gotten most of them on sale on discount cd key sites

[ashen schooner]

you only need to pay full price if you're going through steam/it just came out

[late sapphire]

350 with basegame

[wind spruce]

Lmfao

[plucky flax]

Pretty cheap do it.

[lethal lagoon]

Wait wtf I own warhammer 3

Why would I buy this

[fresh reef]

piracy 🔥

[lethal lagoon]

Past self, you better have bought it on sale

You fucking idiot

[plucky flax]

Do you have 1 and 2?

[wind spruce]

Because it's total war WITH DRAGONS AND MAGIC

[lethal lagoon]

1 yes, 2 no

[plucky flax]

Not having the best one.

Get warhammer 2 and play high elf.

Most OP race.

Archers spam.

[wind spruce]

Sisters spam

Yasss

[plucky flax]

Big dragons.

[lethal lagoon]

Yes that's probably literally why I bought it.

Like unironically

[plucky flax]

But my all time fav race is always empire.

Just humans chads.

[wind spruce]

I'd never played anything warhammer before when I discovered it existed. I got so goddamn 🥵 that day

[plucky flax]

They better make total war 40k at some point.

[lethal lagoon]

Btw, you two, come rend your hearts

Speaking of which, Help -> Steam Support -> My account -> Data Releated to your steam account -> External funds used

[wind spruce]

I'm 99% sure they are

[lethal lagoon]

Do it

And reveal to the world your pain

Help -> Steam Support -> My account -> Data Releated to your steam account -> External funds used

[wind spruce]

Ok brb

[plucky flax]

I don't pay that much for games.

[lethal lagoon]

So you believe, do it.

Help -> Steam Support -> My account -> Data Releated to your steam account -> External funds used

[plucky flax]

Okay I am not revealing it.

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

[wind spruce]

It's really not that much for me

[plucky flax]

It's less than I thought tbh.

[lethal lagoon]

Wait what the fuck

[plucky flax]

I don't buy random games on sale.

[lethal lagoon]

1700???

How's it that low

fuck me, is only my heart getting rended?

I'm at 12k

[wind spruce]

Because I blow all my money on hookers and meth

[plucky flax]

$1344 is not that bad?

12k wtf?

I spend 12k on tattoos not games.

[wind spruce]

Bro I'm booking you into rehab

[ashen schooner]

I thought 3k was bad

[lethal lagoon]

I've had steam for like 10+ years.

Fuck, last time I did this, most poeple had numbers around mine

how are you guys so frugal

fuck

[plucky flax]

Does this calculate games bought from keys activation?

I mostly buy games from cdkeys.

[wind spruce]

I'm not frugal I just get fixated on singular games for years

[lethal lagoon]

Probably only actual steam funds

How is your attention* so frugal

[upper sun]

pirate more

[lethal lagoon]

I pirate old games cause the new versions tend to be shit

[wind spruce]

Trying new things hard

[lethal lagoon]

Like might and magic heroes 3

warlords battlecry 2

[upper sun]

i have fallout NV on steam but i still play the pirated version

just gotta get into the habbit

[lethal lagoon]

It really bugs me you spelled habit like that

I'm uncomfertable.

[upper sun]

damm....

[lethal lagoon]

[fresh reef]

nice one, Fatshark

[upper sun]

is it just me or are these issues getting worse?

are they hiring people from bethesda?

[lethal lagoon]

Okay, look at the guy's keychain right above you.

Why do people use those?

I feel like anything but the top one just looks bad

It's like putting a C+ on your fridge

[plucky flax]

Okay mr cringe.

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Keychain what

[lethal lagoon]

Sorry, the little thing next to the portrait

whatever the fuck it's called

[upper sun]

badge?

[lethal lagoon]

Sure

[lyric burrow]

Insignia

[lethal lagoon]

Nah

[wind spruce]

Shit Little Ribbon

[lethal lagoon]

A little too aggressive, so nope

[wind spruce]

You little shit

[lethal lagoon]

Now we are off topic

[strong gulch]

I don't typically use one. It's like an earring and I don't like to wear those.

[lethal lagoon]

If I looked like a fuck boy, I'd wear earrings.

But none really fit me

[wind spruce]

I'm gonna get a little cross earring on a chain

[lethal lagoon]

^

[wind spruce]

Bc I'm original

[lethal lagoon]

The dream

For that to actually look good on you

I'm always a little jealous of people who can wear the most cringe shit, but it fits them.

I wanna be cringe too

[wind spruce]

You are cringe dw

It just doesn't come off well

[plucky flax]

You don't have a bright orange crop bomber only goes down to your belly button?

[wind spruce]

💋

[lethal lagoon]

Thanks

[plucky flax]

The trick is to not give a shit and just wear what you want.

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Yep, because literally no one gives a fuck

[broken carbon]

real as fuck

[wind spruce]

That magenta shirt ain't gonna end your life homie

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[lethal lagoon]

Well, if a woman I'm hitting on thinks I'm closeted, that's not great.
I mean being gay kinda sounds great, but I didn't roll that die.

So some people give a fuck for sure

[plucky flax]

For the disco elysium bros here i have the authentic kim jacket.

[wind spruce]

If they're hitting on you why does it matter

[broken carbon]

i’m gonna buy a murder drones sweater

and wear it around

i loveee murder drones

[lethal lagoon]

Cause... then she won't? Or she'll stop?

I assume?

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/your-lucky-i-dont-hurt-you-gif-24295456

[broken carbon]

if you are hitting on a woman they are likely going to assume you aren’t gay

[lethal lagoon]

I have had a woman think I'm gay before, maybe I'm just being dumb.

[broken carbon]

ur gay now

sry

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

no girls for u

[plucky flax]

I've had guys think I'm gay.

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

So whatever.

[broken carbon]

hello #1 hater

[broken carbon]

what the fuck

[lethal lagoon]

That's usually a compliment though

[strong gulch]

A fair number of the cishet men I know wear earings. Mostly midwest and east coast in the US tho.

[late sapphire]

@lethal lagoon

[latent mauve]

He uses smite

[mossy oyster]

that is literally you to me, so not hearing it

[latent mauve]

It was a sign

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[wind spruce]

Yeah but there will be far more who think you dress well and are confident, and that's hot

[lethal lagoon]

Spend more money, NOW.

[broken carbon]

atlas is like the only good smite psyker out there

[plucky flax]

I've had a guy asked for my opinion about something. His exact words were "because you are feminine". I was like 'wot?'

[broken carbon]

nuh uh!

[lethal lagoon]

Fellas, is lightning gay? It only strikes once, and then needs to recharge.

[broken carbon]

4chan.

[lethal lagoon]

[late sapphire]

free :3

[broken carbon]

[wind spruce]

I do not picture you as feminine

[lethal lagoon]

^

[broken carbon]

you’re basing that off of a discord message

[wind spruce]

Maybe by "feminine" he meant "wipes your ass"

[plucky flax]

I was way more feminine tbh when I had long hair.

[broken carbon]

LMFAO

[wind spruce]

Ah that old chestnut

[broken carbon]

erm

[broken carbon]

shopped

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not basing it off anything, I'm just being nice and saying what I think he wants to hear.

[broken carbon]

guys look wayyy better with long hair as a general rule

some people can pull off short hair

[plucky flax]

And also I had my long hair highlighted.

[broken carbon]

but a guy with long hair

[strong gulch]

Guys with long hair get a thumbs up from me.

[broken carbon]

is my weakness

[mossy oyster]

mullets >>>>

[broken carbon]

ok that’s even better

[mossy oyster]

get some real taste

[broken carbon]

fuck no

unless u mean like

a wolfcut

which is kind of a mullet

i hate mullets

[latent mauve]

Bald or face the wall

[mossy oyster]

dont have time to talk to a noob like you

[broken carbon]

a guy with long hair, decent style, and wears eyeliner

[late sapphire]

mullet lol

[broken carbon]

actual peak

[mossy oyster]

clandestum time

https://tenor.com/view/kick-pov-dante-devil-may-cry_3-dmc3-gif-23909644

[broken carbon]

lmfao

away with ye

[lethal lagoon]

Okay twilight.

[broken carbon]

ok look

i like alt men

[lethal lagoon]

🧛

[broken carbon]

twilight was inspired by emo alt men

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

i just like alt men in general

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-gif-20148756

[broken carbon]

stop it with that freaky ass emote

[lethal lagoon]

I have to rejoin that server like once a month cause it kicks me

So I will spam it as much as I want

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[strong gulch]

Inspired by Romeo and Juliet but with glitter.

[broken carbon]

i have some freaky emotes too

idek where from

[wind spruce]

Was I even a guy then

[strong gulch]

Yeah, why not?

[lethal lagoon]

I need to get me one of those necklaces that look like they have meaning but don't actually.

[wind spruce]

Just looked a lot more ambiguous once I added the red, not that that's an issue

[plucky flax]

Okay pink phone is kind of feminine but whatever it was best colour.

[broken carbon]

psyker chat face reveals

[plucky flax]

It's 'rose gold'.

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, not ambiguous.

[wind spruce]

Atlas post butt reveal

[lethal lagoon]

I don't have pictures on this computer, it'd be a hassle.

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[strong gulch]

That was my thought. How'd you get that?

[wind spruce]

Great (sick) minds

[lethal lagoon]

Also pink.

[plucky flax]

I have pink ralph lauren polo shirt with the big pony.

[broken carbon]

someone pinged me

[mossy surge]

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

I face revealed. Too slow heh

[plucky flax]

[broken carbon]

oh

lol

[lethal lagoon]

ah

lmao

[wind spruce]

I see

Kekw

[strong gulch]

I saw it. Lurking paid off.

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-viralhog-cute-im-watching-you-security-guard-gif-20604758

[strong gulch]

That reminds. There's a spider dangling from my ceiling. I should go check on that.

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, follow the international law on spiders.

If it's on the ground, it's time for a pound. If it's in the air, ignore it there.

[strong gulch]

It's gone. It left a web tho.

[teal fog]

does psyker need new staffs

[lethal lagoon]

It was well written funny enough

[strong gulch]

Even if spider are on the ground, I typically leave them alone.

[lethal lagoon]

You are a better person than me

I have like 3 scars from spider bites

so not happening

[strong gulch]

If they crawl on my or try to take over my stuff, they get moved.

[lethal lagoon]

If they don't know their place, it's time for natural selection.

[strong gulch]

I've been trying to tackle my arachnophobia. It is SO much better than it used to me.

[lethal lagoon]

That's fairly impressive

[strong gulch]

Thanks. I try.

[upper sun]

just kill them

its that easy

freak out and throw children at them until they die

[lethal lagoon]

And then all the other bugs will come

[strong gulch]

No. They have to survive each other and... the cats.

[lethal lagoon]

^ clad's home

[strong gulch]

Good luck spider.

[lethal lagoon]

The bugs are coming

[strong gulch]

and making more bugs

[upper sun]

bugs?

[lethal lagoon]

An illegal bug brothel even

[upper sun]

bro have you looked outside

theyre all dead

[strong gulch]

spiders eat bigs

bugs

[upper sun]

remember when you were a kid and you'd lift up rocks?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I don't do that anymore

[upper sun]

all the bugs are dead and we killed em

[lethal lagoon]

I miss the fireflies

[upper sun]

they died so you can have avocado toast smh

[lethal lagoon]

Okay kinda worth

But I mean I pay for that.

[upper sun]

ikr

[lethal lagoon]

So it's not really =

[strong gulch]

Slugs aren't bugs. They are alive and well. They cover my house when it rains.

[upper sun]

i like avocado toast with scarmbled eggs

[lethal lagoon]

That is a classic

Well I mean it can't be a classic

But it feels like one

[strong gulch]

Are the more water efficient avocados on the market yet?

[lethal lagoon]

You know the worst part of 5g internet, is that it's technically a phone line. So I just get random messages for the guy who owned the line before me.

He was spanish and orders a decent amount of doordash

[strong gulch]

It took like 8 years for messages for the previous owner of my phone number to stop showing up.

phone calls too

[lethal lagoon]

I can't even block the numbers either, cause it just shows up on the "messages" of my 5g internet thingy.

Thank god there's no notifaction

[lethal lagoon]

I'm so glad I have an "original" actual phone number

[upper sun]

you have 5g internet as your household internet?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, it's as good as cox/cable

[broken carbon]

hehehehehehehe

peeeeniisssss

[upper sun]

hows the latency?

[lethal lagoon]

200-300 down, same ping, but it's upload is 90

Same ping as cable

[plucky flax]

Is this an American thing?

[strong gulch]

Oh cox... you poor soul.

[plucky flax]

I have my normal phone mobile data, then wifi is separate.

[lethal lagoon]

Kind of?

[upper sun]

nah its common in other places

[lethal lagoon]

No fiber for me

[broken carbon]

i have gigabyte upload and download speeds

[upper sun]

iktfb

[broken carbon]

steam games take like 5 minutes to download i

it’s awesome

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

I only have download.

[broken carbon]

i say awesome a lot

[plucky flax]

Upload is only 100mbits/s

[broken carbon]

looooossseerrrrr

oh bits

sad

vv sad

[lethal lagoon]

My 5g get's around 90mbit/s upload

[strong gulch]

It's variable in the states. Not all places have access to dedicated internet.

[plucky flax]

Gigabit.

So it's like 300mbs/sec

Download.

[broken carbon]

ah

[plucky flax]

You have actual 1 gigabyte of data download per sec?

[lethal lagoon]

My 5g get's around 300mbs/sec down.

[broken carbon]

yes

[plucky flax]

What the hell

[strong gulch]

Some places have a monopoly and have shit internet and high prices.

[broken carbon]

fiber !

[lethal lagoon]

screenshot your spd test

[broken carbon]

alright one sec

[plucky flax]

So your speedtest would have like 6gigabits or so.

[upper sun]

download space marines 2 and post it to me on a usb drive

[broken carbon]

did u hear about that experiment

in south america

where they tested internet speed over internet vs carrier pigeon

[lethal lagoon]

This makes me deeply uncomfertable.

Deeply

[upper sun]

thats actually disgusting and i hate you

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Damn that's fast.

[broken carbon]

why

[broken carbon]

yeah lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

I hate you and everything about you

[plucky flax]

Actual gigabyte speed.

[broken carbon]

steam downloads are about 100mb a second

[plucky flax]

I kneel.

[lethal lagoon]

[broken carbon]

woe, power of money upon ye

it’s actually funny

[lethal lagoon]

I bet my internet costs more than yours