Like even a lot of weight, they look the same to me
#psyker-class
latent mauve
The crusher blessing change is the tell that they have no idea what they are doing
runic juniper
crusher blessings tell me to expect Deimos thrust too
this would be cool but slaughterer/any other free power blessings ontop of uncanny is too good
upper sun
who cares about good lmao
blissful solar
(total damage, though worth mentioning it was a 40m:23s game) (maelstrom mission I-III-VII-F, Encalvum Baross, Damnation)
upper sun
i wanna mememaxx
runic juniper
If only there were enemy types with more hp that weren't unyielding
need a regular scab shooter with monstrosity hp
upper sun
yeah
hearty dagger
By the way, what do you guys think of SM2?
patent mango
needs more ogryn
runic juniper
they could have added run n gun to auto guns
Im really surprised they didnt
upper sun
at least its FUN and changes gameplay esp on those weapons
hearty dagger
they could have added run n gun to auto guns
Honestly i would have killed for run n gun on BAGs
runic juniper
By the way, what do you guys think of SM2?
waiting for real release, not spending extra on a 4 day window, I already regret spending the normal price a month early for this game
otherwise looks good if there aren't any real issues with the epic games stuff
hearty dagger
Honestly from everything i've seen, it looks kinda mid.
Story is all out on yt already and i shit you not they just copied the script from the first game but swapped the words ||inquisitor|| and ork for ||astropath|| and tyranid
runic juniper
I mean yeah story is kinda meh in the first game too. but you are big armor space guy fighting bugs
that's literally the name of the game
hearty dagger
Fair
But it's still really annoying that not only do they drop that one of the primaris squad mates were on calth during the word bearer attack, they don't answer anything about Titus just having "fuck you warp" affinity either.
And the ending feels either really sequel-baity or "hey hey hey wait for our drop of the Lt. Titus mini for the tabletop"
runic juniper
that kinda sucks if it doesn't even play into titus' warp affinity
runic juniper
huge missed opportunity
hearty dagger
Brother i shit you not they beat him by flipping some weird stones.
That may or may not have anything to do with ||necrons||
But they're never brought up before the ending sequence.
runic juniper
I'm still real curious about the coop though, how well difficulty can scale and if it's replayable with the different classes and their upgrades or if it's just going to be 1 time playthrough kinda game and then boring after that.
hearty dagger
Plus at some point a marine dies because a piece of rebar penned his visor.
hearty dagger
I'm still real curious about the coop though, how well difficulty can scale and ...
Honestly, from the previews i saw at least 2 of the missions follow the same beats (Go here, get this, hold out here and blow up tyranids) except on different planets and one has a "shoot it until it dies" type boss at the end.
So, co-op also looks very repetitive.
Darktide is also similar in that regard but at least we have different objective types rather than "oh yeah just check these dead guardsmen"
runic juniper
the builds here and the amount shit the director throws at you really help this game
hearty dagger
Plus for some goddamn reason the heavy bolter works like a minigun, ala shoot faster the longer you hold the trigger down, and does not have the overwhelming firepower feel a bolter should have (sound design wise)
runic juniper
psyker players are the best
especially with 3+ wound curios
hearty dagger
I like to run at least 1 wound curio just to make sure i don't get fucked over by overperiling because of lag.
runic juniper
illisi and assail can definitely get fucky if you try and edge, but after a game or 2 im used to it even when i have to play on a vpn to get around the connection errors
hearty dagger
The problem is i get ping spikes so if it happens at a bad time i can explode because instead of swinging my shockmaul, my dumbass psyker decided to throw out more assails or m1 with the staff instead.
upper sun
i love psyker it's my favourite class
🤔
runic juniper
The problem is i get ping spikes so if it happens at a bad time i can explode be...
oh yeah that shit sucks
broken carbon
The problem is i get ping spikes so if it happens at a bad time i can explode be...
assail has a weird input buffer, i explode with it a lot too
hearty dagger
Switching weapons on high lag is the worst.
broken carbon
relatively a lot*
plucky flax
(total damage, though worth mentioning it was a 40m:23s game) (maelstrom mission...
Not bad.
broken carbon
(total damage, though worth mentioning it was a 40m:23s game) (maelstrom mission...
what was the build? void assail?
hearty dagger
On what i was saying previously, SM2 looks way too underwhelming for all the hype it had going for it.
It's like the MW remaster of SM1
runic juniper
The problem is i get ping spikes so if it happens at a bad time i can explode be...
There's the guarantee weapon swap mod that might help, at least forces the switch instead of switching back and throwing out a dart that kills you
broken carbon
On what i was saying previously, SM2 looks way too underwhelming for all the hyp...
agreed
sm2 was not what i had hoped for
plucky flax
Too high warpfire damage. I want to guess it's surge creeping flames spam or maybe blaze trauma.
hearty dagger
I know i'm spoiled by Astartes, but a sprinting primaris should definitely move faster than that.
broken carbon
i genuinely believe darktide to be a better game in all ways except story compared to space marine 2
latent mauve
(total damage, though worth mentioning it was a 40m:23s game) (maelstrom mission...
Annihilate dogs
broken carbon
hordes aren’t big enough, guns are super weak,
hearty dagger
It feels like they standardized shit way too much for casual shooter gamers to the point you might as well just play GoW at this point
broken carbon
I know i'm spoiled by Astartes, but a sprinting *primaris* should definitely mov...
yeah
latent mauve
Astartes was so good
hearty dagger
i genuinely believe darktide to be a better game in all ways except story compar...
Honestly even the story is worse
At least Darktide has some solid background story going on
broken carbon
Honestly even the story is worse
tbh i’ve barely paid attention to the story so
hearty dagger
SM2 is just a nothing burger
broken carbon
idek lmfao
upper sun
I know i'm spoiled by Astartes, but a sprinting *primaris* should definitely mov...
just wait until librarian update dlc
broken carbon
all i know is there is a macguffin
upper sun
think psyker in the update but worse
hearty dagger
Plus
It's highly baffling that they made such gorgeous chaplain armor for the story, but you don't have it in multiplayer.
Also no beak helmet for malum caedo cosplay, you just get Mark X Tacticus but with a skull or Mark X Tacticus with plume and faceshield.
runic juniper
biggest complaint with sm2 is that mechanicist mfs using push brooms instead of having a servitor clean the floors
hearty dagger
yeah
Also, even worse, in the fucking opening, a space wolf death watch marine gets taken out by a relatively low tier Tyranid in melee.
SM2 did marines dirty in general but holy fuck they did the death watch so dirty.
broken carbon
biggest complaint with sm2 is that mechanicist mfs using push brooms instead of ...
i love it
it’s such stupid grim dark
hearty dagger
Best part of SM2 was in the intro where Titus proved that ultramarines are greek by shoving an entire virus bomb up his ass.
runic juniper
i love it
'The push broom. Invention from the dark ages of humanity. The original stc for them has been lost for several millennia. Only a few remain as priceless artifacts.'
broken carbon
Best part of SM2 was in the intro where Titus proved that ultramarines are greek...
LMFAO
I WAS LAYGHING SO HARD AR THAT SCENE
hearty dagger
LIKE BRO
YOU HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO JUST MODEL IT ATTACHED BENEATH HIS BACKPACK
OR JUST HAVE HIM HOLD IT AND RESTRICT THE PLAYER TO ONE HANDED
broken carbon
Best part of SM2 was in the intro where Titus proved that ultramarines are greek...
@lofty escarp @worn heron
hearty dagger
BUT NO, VIRUS BOMB UP THE ASS IT IS, THE CODEX ASTARTES SUPPORTS THAT ACTION
The whole banner scene was also just eeeh
lofty escarp
<@508465754832633896> <@576701404475949056>
jovial juniper
BUT NO, VIRUS BOMB UP THE ASS IT IS, THE CODEX ASTARTES SUPPORTS THAT ACTION
Oh that's right
The virus bomb goes into the ass hole
hearty dagger
Like they had such a blank check to have a climactic scene where routed ultramarines rally around Titus until he has a whole squad around him, but no, Titus used his daemonic mattward powers to fade-to-black the screen and spawn ultramarines out of nothing but air
thin knoll
Yall already talk about the patch notes?
hearty dagger
Yeah
thin knoll
What's the concensus? I'm excited
hearty dagger
Looks pretty great
jovial juniper
Psykers are going to throw hands up close and personal
hearty dagger
Dueling Sword on zealot is going to be a bit funky but we'll see how that pans out
jovial juniper
Vets are going to break the game
thin knoll
Oh yeah
jovial juniper
Again
hearty dagger
Psykers are going to throw hands up close and personal
I've already been throwing hands since day 1. THE VIOLENCE HAS MERELY ESCALATED.
radiant frigate
I've already been throwing hands since day 1. ***THE VIOLENCE HAS MERELY ESCALAT...
hearty dagger
Also, ngl now i kinda want to see a space marine in Darktide, at least as a sort of NPC in the Mourningstar
I just wanna see how Fatshark does the marines.
radiant frigate
siblings i found a scrier's setup i actually really like
illisi + laspistol
thoughts? (other than malefic momentum)
upper sun
id change toughness during gaze for toughness for peril gen
since gaze gives you peril and you can have toughness regen with ulting
blissful solar
what was the build? void assail?
radiant frigate
id change toughness during gaze for toughness for peril gen
potentially..
plucky flax
(total damage, though worth mentioning it was a 40m:23s game) (maelstrom mission...
I did nearly same amount of warp fire with surge staff in 34 mins. 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1275918188265214063/image.png?ex=66dcbae9&is=66db6969&hm=9aae203a6526d348fdc1b70aa6e260388a724e9dd19faed8aa011e2b65c0d348&
Surge is clear from blaze trauma.
blissful solar
wish the game had an official way of tracking damage, different mods, and even different people in the same game with the same mod, see different damage numbers i believe
lethal lagoon
wish the game had an official way of tracking damage, different mods, and even d...
No, scoreboard is consistent in the same game
I've compared multiple times
But yeah the whole no scoreboard = less toxicity just isnt true.
All it does is let bad players have the confidence to be toxic. Literally anytime someone backseats or yells into the mic that "you all suck" in any of my games, they are in 4th place lmao.
plucky flax
Scoreboard really shows how bad blaze trauma is. 
Pls buff.
Blazing spirits t4. More radius. Faster charge.
fresh reef
Showstopper Blaze Trauma 🙏
runic juniper
blaze away 4 being a thing would be so nice though
but they only mentioned like tier 1s and 2s getting higher tiers
plucky flax
Wait what?
fringe tangle
Too bad it doesn't give wounds and make the blast bigger, would of been funny to run what is essentially a poxburster build.
plucky flax
I'm rioting if they don't give blazing spirits t4.
4 stacks per crit 8 stacks cap.
I have seen it in my dream.
runic juniper
Too bad it doesn't give wounds and make the blast bigger, would of been funny to...
yeah something extra would make this from bad to good. I'd really like it to regen health as if you got downed and revived instantly
analog agate
Surge on surge (if secondary works for it? Replacing… warp flurry? Also, my boy trauma build seems to be intact and ?buffed with stagger wtf??
plucky flax
Warp flurry is so good for surge. It doesn't charge that fast and I can tell a difference with flurry stacks going rather easily.
upper sun
Surge on surge (if secondary works for it? Replacing… warp flurry? Also, my boy ...
PURGE GOT RENDING 
plucky flax
However, if surge works for right click I can see not using flurry and abuse blitz cancel swap.
Then RIP fingers playing surge.
upper sun
However, if surge works for right click I can see not using flurry and abuse bli...
If surge gave +5 crit on surge then maybe you can replace nexus with it
nocturne dust
Surge on surge (if secondary works for it? Replacing… warp flurry? Also, my boy ...
yo dawg, I heard you like stagger so-
plucky flax
True but upward to 20% crit chance is still huge for a crit dependant weapon.
plucky flax
You really want the crit with surge.
upper sun
3 blessings pls??????
plucky flax
Surge blessing would only help against mostly ogryns and monsters.
clear heath
surge vs flurry will be a tough choice if it actually works
plucky flax
Most elites and specials die really fast already to full charge.
nocturne dust
3 blessings with rending purgatus
plucky flax
If surge doesn't fork to additional target, then the surge proc is wasted on weaker enemies.
If it even works on right click at all.
(Which I doubt since it doesn't for trauma)
nocturne dust
Most elites and specials die really fast already to full charge.
do they all die in a single crit tho?
primal plume
I kinda wish Psykers extra 3rd talent went to the charged spell of smite instead of it being a melee talent
let the left click stay as is without the stun being over the top
plucky flax
Maulers won't die. Ragers I think have about 10% left.
Shotgunners will die to 1 crit.
clear heath
surge surge would help for ragers, maulers, all the ogryns
sturdy tendon
Also insta stun on Muties
strong gulch
What staff you play?
surge surge
primal plume
Im really curious to what surge on surge staff will do
zap to the extreme?
double damage?
clear heath
it probably just wont work
strong gulch
probably lmb only 
restive ice
left click surge rise up
plucky flax
I would actually prefer if they make it so it always target 2 different enemies, prioritising elites/specials unless there's only 1 enemy in range then both attacks proc on the same guy.
nocturne dust
left click surge rise up
left click balls get down and stay down
plucky flax
More spread damage. But against monster it can do extra damage.
Whatever they decide to do I would of course try surge surge if even for the meme.
analog agate
Yeah, I value crit on surge (chance to one shot more enemies) over spam hitting. Time will tell. Blitz canceling already makes surge powerful af
plucky flax
My favourite staff.
radiant frigate
I would actually prefer if they make it so it always target 2 different enemies...
forked lightning when permissible sounds cool
tulip kettle
agreed!
blissful solar
No, scoreboard is consistent in the same game
oh okay, maybe i misremembered or something
tulip kettle
oh okay, maybe i misremembered or something
no, its not, btw. If anybody leaves or joins during the mission the scorebvoard cant track correctly
analog agate
I still like trauma as my comfort brain off staff. I’m just not as talented as being selfish on surge 
blissful solar
well yeah that is true, if people leave they get zero'd out
plucky flax
Blaze trauma is my 2nd favourite but it needs too big brains to play.
tulip kettle
if you join partway through its also not accurate
plucky flax
I dunno how you think it's 'comfort' D:
strong gulch
Surge is my less brain needed staff.
tulip kettle
yeah i just can never make it work
plucky flax
You don't even have to aim!
tulip kettle
it just tickles things
strong gulch
WC fire trauma is sweaty for me. Assail + fire trauma is more of a comfort pick for me.
analog agate
Cause I don’t get hit. Ever. And Quell canceling is second nature. It is an easy clutch staff for me
radiant frigate
You don't even have to aim!
me with assail
tulip kettle
i expect them to die, they dont, i explode myself
plucky flax
Make sure you do full charge.
tulip kettle
i tried to enjoy it so many times
radiant frigate
"know what? just fuck things up in this general direction"
plucky flax
If surge right click is not at full charge it does quite a bit less damage.
tulip kettle
i even watched one of that "agent chaos" guys vids to learn like 6 months ago....
plucky flax
analog agate
Obviously when I compare the 1000 hours to trauma and hundreds to surge that had a factor too. I’m just not as good at it
radiant frigate
if only this agent chaos guy was here to teach us more
plucky flax
AgentChaos/UnsanctionedPsyker biggest scammer.
strong gulch
Obviously when I compare the 1000 hours to trauma and hundreds to surge that had...
valid
plucky flax
I hate him.
radiant frigate
such a shame that he isn't in this channel
tulip kettle
yeah i mean
plucky flax
Promoting bad staves like blaze trauma and surge smh.
radiant frigate
Obviously when I compare the 1000 hours to trauma and hundreds to surge that had...
you have tided the dark a lot it seems
blissful solar
blaze trauma is cool
radiant frigate
upper sun
blaze trauma veri bad pls buff
blissful solar
yes...buff....yes........
strong gulch
I hate him.
Heard him talk once, seemed alright to me.
radiant frigate
when are we making deflector and blazing spirit baseline for force swords?
plucky flax
i expect them to die, they dont, i explode myself
Maybe your surge staff is not highly rolled.
radiant frigate
they all have blaze in the name
analog agate
you have tided the dark a lot it seems
Yeah, I am technically one of the more experienced at blaze trauma. I just don’t do that nerdy testing other people do
tulip kettle
but for real im sure i just dont know wtf im doing because all the other cool psykers seem to enjoy surge but i just cant click with it, and i really want to!
blissful solar
voidstrike is probably the best staff
upper sun
anyone have the game running rn?
blissful solar
but the trauma force with blazing spirit is really strong
plucky flax
The best build for surge by far is creeping flames spam with warp charges.
tulip kettle
oh.....
radiant frigate
voidstrike is probably the best staff
because fuck this line of heretics in particular
plucky flax
So you can spam soulblaze and spam surge the whole map.
analog agate
anyone have the game running rn?
I’m on vacation in Iceland. Living the damp life
tulip kettle
so like, when i play surge i should actually just be playing shriek?
radiant frigate
So you can spam soulblaze and spam surge the whole map.
SG blaze trauma when?
upper sun
i want someone to check my tru level
jovial juniper
anyone have the game running rn?
Going in
upper sun
ill check vox
radiant frigate
so like, when i play surge i should actually just be playing shriek?
instead of what, sg? absolutely 100%
tulip kettle
but like leaning on it i mean
plucky flax
so like, when i play surge i should actually just be playing shriek?
It is part of the build that makes it so strong imo.
radiant frigate
sg surge is like top 10 ways to explode
blissful solar
because fuck this line of heretics in particular
if it had blazing spirit it'd be kinda crazy
jovial juniper
i want someone to check my tru level
Nevermind
strong gulch
but for real im sure i just dont know wtf im doing because all the other cool ps...
I mean, well all take to things differently.
radiant frigate
but like leaning on it i mean
they work VERY nicely together, since surge generates so much peril
plucky flax
Warp charges to reduce peril generation and more damage and reduce cdr.
radiant frigate
you can get your peril up for big shrieks in a matter of seconds
jovial juniper
sg surge is like top 10 ways to explode
It's also very good (cope)
radiant frigate
surge kills single targets very well and then shriek will kill waves
veri efficient
tulip kettle
surge kills so slowly i probably wont even get 6 charges up before i want to shriek again
radiant frigate
your shriek will do a lot of work by itself
jovial juniper
wanna play?
Oh I'm just testing stuff rn, not really hitting the terminal
radiant frigate
with in fire reborn
tulip kettle
i get that
tulip kettle
at that point though
upper sun
RASHAD
tulip kettle
am i really playing surge?
radiant frigate
Yes
tulip kettle
if im just leaning on shriek to do everything
radiant frigate
but shriek is leaning on surge to do things
upper sun
OK
plucky flax
Yeah you still do more range damage then soulblaze damage.
upper sun
a GOOD maelstrom is up
tulip kettle
hmmm]
upper sun
LETS GOO 2/5
tulip kettle
i will give it a go
show us your stick chaos
lemme see what im aiming for on a surge staff if i throw one together now
plucky flax
tulip kettle
tah
plucky flax
As high damage and crit bonus as possible. Then charge rate at 70% ish or higher and as high quell as you can too.
upper sun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1202030729362673714/i...
stolen
plucky flax
Maniac let you 2 shots dreg rager and 1 shot trapper without crit.
strong gulch
I'm an unyielding enjoyer on surge.
plucky flax
True play whatever 2nd perk you want. Some people run elites too. But I like maniac for extra specials damage.
restive ice
weakspot damage surge is bis
strong gulch
Yeah, second perk on surge is up in the air. It's not that it doesn't matter, but more that they have impact on different enemies.
tulip kettle
lol
how is weakspot dmg good on surge? i thought surge couldnt hit weakpsots
always hits torso no?
strong gulch
how is weakspot dmg good on surge? i thought surge couldnt hit weakpsots
lmb mains
tulip kettle
ah
radiant frigate
weakspot trauma
tulip kettle
nah tbh flakiak seems the way on it based on what i would use it for
then flurry and nexus makes complete sense
strong gulch
lmb main rise up
plucky flax
The beast helping people do some weird penance i dunno. But surge is like you just run forward spam right click and press f.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05YaffhEJa4
jovial juniper
Just found out VS RMB has no/low suppression, it's not so over
plucky flax
You'd kill all the specials and shooters on map making it so safe for team.
Then if shits really hit the fan you have smite still to stun lock.
strong gulch
Flaniac is good. Can't go wrong with that combo most of the time anyways.
It favor unyielding on surge because I keep running into situations where more boss damage is needed or I'm the only one who can deal with the monster.
plucky flax
Nice base
strong gulch
Ye 
runic juniper
very nice
now get the mod that shows real stats and see that they're actually 79.7% instead of 80%
strong gulch
radiant frigate
aaand back to 0/5
Death
plucky flax
D:
upper sun
damn judge dredd himself queued up instead of the leaver
tulip kettle
aaand back to 0/5
literally trhe same experience i was crying about the other week dude 😄
ive said it before
ill say it again
FUCK nurgles blessing
upper sun
man i saw terrifying barrage on someone's weapon i knew i hould have dodged
upper sun
FUCK nurgles blessing
man fuck the dogs esp why is that shit on dogs
tulip kettle
im at the point where if its blessing i wont queue the mael
upper sun
tulip kettle
lol
upper sun
actually
tulip kettle
i could taste the panic
upper sun
what the fuck was that jump
upper sun
i could taste the panic
yeah i regreted saving the ogryn
tulip kettle
yeah hes green like you said
you bopped him
he jumps you anyway
very cool FS ty
upper sun
😭
upper sun
ye
tulip kettle
happily stood behind wall stabbing muties
suddenly green one
aaaaaand thats a teamwipe
upper sun
im still gonna keep trying it in pubs
i dont think it counts if i do it in the discord and one dude solos the maelstrom for everyone
plucky flax
Be the dude soloing the maelstrom for 3 other randos you find in the lobby.
upper sun
one day
tulip kettle
and ALSO, idk, i feel like the director decides that
sometimes its pretty clear the director is like "no actually, and also fuck you back to the lobby"
oh youre last left alive and dealing with a rager patrol and horde?
here, have a silent burster through this door
queen trout
The director sometimes says, queue again and sends 3 flamers and 2 bombers in a hoard with a back line of shooters
tulip kettle
it does seem weird how the director clearly sometimes wants to kill you and other times wants you to make it
plucky flax
ASS is no one have to go down?
tulip kettle
nope
plucky flax
Oh just yourself?
tulip kettle
gave up on it because i refuse to do it with any class that isnt psyker
and i wont cheese it by leaving
plucky flax
On psyker hrm...
tulip kettle
but yes its very ez with vet or zealot
plucky flax
Safest build probably would be assail voidstrike creeping flames.
Since surge generate too much peril you might risk blowing up.
tulip kettle
honestly its just nurgles blessing makes me lose
blissful solar
monstrous specialists is the one that always fucks shit up i swear
mental grail
gave up on it because i refuse to do it with any class that isnt psyker
Realest shit ever
plucky flax
You can wait and find super ez maelstrom like extra dogs.
clear heath
nurgles blessing can be very mean sometimes
plucky flax
upper sun
Just stealth when it's dangerous.
chastise only
plucky flax
chastise only <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Then stop cry. 
upper sun
maybe if i get toughness curios ill go blazing piety stealth
upper sun
Then stop cry. <:peepoLaugh:585555825041342515>
we both know you love my tears 😭
plucky flax
No I want you to succeed.
lethal lagoon
gave up on it because i refuse to do it with any class that isnt psyker
Yep, that's how I got it.
No games of EP smite shriek either
Definitely none of those.
NGL, letting people quit out for the "best" title is so lame, I refuse to get over this until we get an actual challenging penance.
Respect to anyone who didn't quit out even when the Deamonhost bugged and aggroed you despite someone else waking it up on the 5th mission.
halcyon gust
Sometimes I enjoy a good Surge round. Pika Pika mother fucker
flat helm
what is meta build for auric maelstorm?
tulip kettle
there are many.
what sort of thing did you want to play, roughly?
a gun? a staff?
vestal fulcrum
what is meta build for auric maelstorm?
The one that makes you feel the coolest
nocturne dust
I mean, in terms of just the best chance to win, voidstrike is generally the pick, no?
halcyon gust
Best chance to win is having a good team
halcyon gust
You can have the best build in the game
tulip kettle
its impossible to lose with trauma if there is no nurgl;es blessing
nocturne dust
its impossible to lose with trauma if there is no nurgl;es blessing
I don't think that's really true since you can always be shot if you're not good enough at dodging
tulip kettle
lol
nocturne dust
and sliding
tulip kettle
i mean if you are dying to shooters then should you be playing auric mael?
halcyon gust
Trauma does stop the funny pox walker from blocking you
nocturne dust
i mean if you are dying to shooters then should you be playing auric mael?
Shooters by themselves, no, but you can absolutely get swamped and then shot while distracted. It's the heat of battle that kills, not any individual enemy.
tulip kettle
okay my dude 🙂
like i said, trauma is free wins if you arent bad and there is no nurgles blessing
nocturne dust
Personally, I think voidstrike is better since it has tons of stagger too, just in a ball you can shoot.
halcyon gust
Each of the staffs have their pros and cons
tulip kettle
void is fine if you have the space to use it.
i love it, but it is not nearly as safe as trauma
nocturne dust
But yes, it's largely personal preference at that point and what other things in your kit you have.
halcyon gust
Trauma is basically a "Stay out of personal space" zone, but runs into gripes related to shooter control and stuff outside of Trauma range
tulip kettle
truma has LMB with insane supression
and you are a psyker running a staff AKA bubble or vent
literally the only thing that can stop you is enemies that cant be staggered
nocturne dust
they're doing it for the m1
tulip kettle
but its 100% a meme
nocturne dust
get the mod that lets you spam m1s without breaking your finger and go to town
strong gulch
halcyon gust
I see Surge on Surge being a M1 buff. Though double lightening would be really funny
teal fog
<:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
awesome staff
tulip kettle
and i never use it except from running a staff scriers meme build with my irl friends
strong gulch
I would prefer flak, but brunt and hadron are haters.
tulip kettle
I would prefer flak, but brunt and hadron are haters.
truer words never spoken
halcyon gust
But yes, it's largely personal preference at that point and what other things in...
Play around and see what suits you. I tend to bias Voidstrike since it is a good Jack of all trade staff and lets me adapt to what's going on in the current game state
nocturne dust
I would prefer flak, but brunt and hadron are haters.
Just wait 20 days
jovial juniper
truma has LMB with insane supression
*All staff
tulip kettle
the thing with void is
nocturne dust
*All staff
Purgatus: exists
tulip kettle
the sound of headshottiung 20 pox at once makes me want to play it
jovial juniper
Even Purg, but the range is bleh
tulip kettle
but then youre doing dreyko final section
nocturne dust
the sound of headshottiung 20 pox at once makes me want to play it
Bro, the sound of a surge void down a hallway of maniacs
jovial juniper
In fact you have more suppression on the charged attack
tulip kettle
and it makes me so annoyed
jovial juniper
With the purg that is
tulip kettle
like, i just want to throw bowling balls anmd get a strike
not kill each enemy one at a time
fresh reef
but its 100% a meme
Consider the following
nocturne dust
I'm so ready for the purgatus meta
fresh reef
:(
fresh reef
So what's the new staff caste system looking like?
nocturne dust
Purge will probably be a lot better. Other than that... eh. Surge surge if it works on the m2 would be cool.
tulip kettle
your results may vary
fresh reef
Purge will probably be a lot better. Other than that... eh. Surge surge if it wo...
It definitely will not work on the m2
jovial juniper
BLIND EVERYONE
We are going vent purge with this one
fresh reef
That would be too cool
nocturne dust
It definitely will not work on the m2
vestal fulcrum
So what's the new staff caste system looking like?
Laspistol at the top
upper sun
no never
vestal fulcrum
tulip kettle
the one thing psyker does not care about AT ALL
nocturne dust
purge always weak
tulip kettle
is trash mobs
nocturne dust
Fatshark plz more buffs
tulip kettle
asnd purg is only actually "good" vs trash
fresh reef
purg only good for trash
I am going to fucking explode you
tulip kettle
thats my take
nocturne dust
is trash mobs
The thing about purge is it can eat any amount of enemies in front of you in the same amount of time
tulip kettle
like, what is purgatus good for other than trash
nocturne dust
Literally 12 billion ragers? Still dead
vestal fulcrum
like, what is purgatus good for other than trash
Everything that isn't Carapace
burnt gazelle
i think you can probably just lmb spam your way through the whole mission though with rend now tho? the skill floor for purgatus will be in the basement
tulip kettle
right but i can say the same for trauma
vestal fulcrum
and isn't 18m away from you
tulip kettle
except i actually have range on trauma
if purgatus had a normal LMB i would use it. probably a lot.
nocturne dust
I mean purge isn't trauma, sure, but we're talking about it being good, not it being the best
tulip kettle
but right now its on the same tier as surge for me it sucks, i suck with it, and i hate it.
ohh look i can light up the darkness in front of mer
blind my teammates
and take 4.5 seconds to kill a poxwalker
very cool FS ty
nocturne dust
I mean, I think current purge is... not fantastic like voidstrike or trauma, but that's a very tough comparison and maybe not healthy for the game.
tulip kettle
i think if youre running BB and a decent anti elite melee purge is fine
fresh reef
It fucks everything up dude
tulip kettle
but otherwise, just why]
ah yes, tanner
im totally going to spend my tiume watching one of his videos
nocturne dust
i think if youre running BB and a decent anti elite melee purge is fine
I would take assail if I could still have Wildfire
fresh reef
I couldn't find the actual recording
If you think 3k per tick is bad dps then idk what to tell you
nocturne dust
I mean, the damage numbers look great but the issue with purge is ttk and that damage is spread out amongst a plethora of enemies. If you want the elites dead now it's not going to work for you. You have to be very good at managing your space and DoTing enemies to death.
fresh reef
I mean, the damage numbers look great but the issue with purge is ttk and that d...
This
There are strengths other than raw burst damage
nocturne dust
The other issue is venting shriek exists and can largely just replace purge
fresh reef
True, since surge does decent damage while mobile, and Shriek can cover hordes and such easily
Purg is slightly better with Maulers
plucky flax
I was featured in Tanner's vid once.
sweet beacon
like, what is purgatus good for other than trash
Anything that isn't carapace really
It's not gonna immediately melt flak/maniacs but once one of them dies so does everything near them
Wildfire helps a tiny bit in those situations
Crit chance is obviously a massive boost
Scriers gaze is already good with purge, probably gonna be insane when the update drops
tulip kettle
every other staff performs better, and doesnt blind yourself and tewammates, and has the option to engage at longer ranges
idk
jovial juniper
In fact you have more suppression on the charged attack
Fun fact, you'll get terrifying barrage on it
nocturne dust
other staves can break idols easier
I always hit those with my sword
and the ones I can't hit with my sword
I stare at longingly from a distance
sweet beacon
Still think the weakest is surge
worn heron
Isnt wildfire worthless
sweet beacon
Not sure why they haven't nerfed purge vfx yet. Or at least added it as an option
It's worthless without purge
worn heron
Cuz it spreads its four stacks out
sweet beacon
It's mid with purge
fresh reef
other staves can break idols easier
Unironically true
I'm a plasteel fiend and the idols in Throneside genuinely pained me
worn heron
Like it spreads one stack to four enemies
sweet beacon
It helps a tiny tiny bit
sweet beacon
Worse than that it won't add an extra stack if the enemy already has 4
So maybe it'll be good if fatshark ever fixes hordes rarely spawning
worn heron
The one where you vent ur peril and it lights shit on fire is the one you want w purg
That one lets you go well and passed the purg's soulblaze cap
sweet beacon
Eh, both nodes are leading the same place
sweet beacon
From 15/16 w crit to 21
sweet beacon
I am aware, they're not mutually exclusive
worn heron
If ur max ur peril and already have them ablaze
sweet beacon
It wipes the floor with anything not carapace
sweet beacon
other staves can break idols easier
Only valid complaint about purge performance
Cause you know damn well pubbies aren't even gonna look at idols if you ping em
fresh reef
It wipes the floor with anything not carapace
Even carapace gets shredded if you have a source of Rending
sweet beacon
You mean brittleness? Rending is applied to the currently equipped weapon and I can't think of anything psyker has that gives rending
Not sure which weapon applies brittleness either but sounds more plausible
fresh reef
Isn't Uncanny rending?
plucky flax
Still think the weakest is surge
Surge is strongest for me. 😮
fresh reef
iirc Rending works globally for all stacks. Brittle needs to be stacked up on every enemy individually for the bonus damage
fresh reef
Surge is strongest for me. 😮
Ya surge isn't bad, it's just the hardest to use effectively
plucky flax
Right click and spam f.
fresh reef
It's more button presses than just right click lol
fresh reef
I mean tbf, you only really need to aim a little bit with Void
Most things are standing still or running at you in straight lines
plucky flax
Void in my hand is very slow at dealing with shooters.
So I have to use assail to supplement it.
sweet beacon
Isn't Uncanny rending?
it is
nocturne dust
Right click and spam f. <a:SadgeCry:927346529725976586>
too many buttons
plucky flax
Surge I just spam right click at shooters and kill them all.
sweet beacon
i'm 90% sure it only applies to the weapon that activated the blessing though
could be wrong but i've never heard of it being a global buff
fresh reef
It's a buff to any damage you can inflict without a weapon change
sweet beacon
jfc fatshark
latent mauve
jfc fatshark
Man what did you expect
tulip kettle
thats... not how it works
uncanny works on soulblaze because its a DoT
it used to be that whatever weapon you had equipped at the time would proc that weapons blessings on an instance of damage, so for example, assail could work with uncanny
but now it doesnt work like that
tulip kettle
the only thing that still works is zealot throwing knives because they dont equip a different weapon, unlike psyker blitzes
tulip kettle
lol
sweet beacon
Man what did you expect
tulip kettle
just being pedantic, but they are not the same. You can switch weapons all you like. If i throw an assail then swap to a weapon with uncanny before the assail hits an enemy, i can still never proc the uncanny with the assail. But if i stack soulblaze onto a boss, then swap on/off my melee with uncanny, i can proc uncanny on ticks of the soulblaze when they tick when i have the sword equipped, regardless of if i swapped or not
viscid matrix
just being pedantic, but they are not the same. You can switch weapons all you l...
Pretty sure you stack uncanny on melee, then throw the assail out, then swap back to maintain the uncanny stacks
long wharf
god damn Space Marine 2 is so good
mental grail
Other classes getting their grubby mitts on our dueling swords...
I don't like it.
nocturne dust
Other classes getting their grubby mitts on our dueling swords...
Law of equivalent exchange, we get the +10% melee speed, they get the sword. Them's the rules.
jovial juniper
Other classes getting their grubby mitts on our dueling swords...
My beloved says that we should share our toys
latent mauve
My beloved says that we should share our toys
Unbalanced
Ds4 was somewhat balanced being psyker only
mental grail
^
strong gulch
When melk has a decent roll, it feels like all of my luck gets used up for awhile.
latent mauve
Vet and zealot hit the one shot breakpoint with less effort
fresh reef
do you guys ever think about how other people hate playing with psykers and think "man what did I do"
like wtf is telopots' deal
latent mauve
And with no rng
mental grail
Stralth Zealot w/ dueling sword 🤢🤢🤢
mental grail
do you guys ever think about how other people hate playing with psykers and thin...
I hate playing with other psykers so I get it, especially assail soykers.
lethal lagoon
Ds4 was somewhat balanced being psyker only
Yeah but PC is a thing
Poke poke poke poke all deadge
It's still going to go so hard on zealot and vet though
mental grail
My beloved says that we should share our toys
I'm feeling stingy.
mental grail
I don't wanna share.
latent mauve
like wtf is telopots' deal
Extremely unbalanced class
strong gulch
I might play me zealot now.
fresh reef
Extremely unbalanced class
every class is unbalanced in one way or another
latent mauve
Smite turns the game into sedition
fresh reef
we need nerfs tbh
latent mauve
The only person at FatShark who even was capable of vision and balance left before p13
fresh reef
increase smite peril gain by 1000% 👍
nocturne dust
I mean, idk, I think balance is mostly fine tbh. Most things people complain about seem to be just more relaxed ways to play, but not necessarily better
latent mauve
Telo isn’t just hostile to staff psykers, it’s anything that essentially removes a mechanic
latent mauve
I mean, idk, I think balance is mostly fine tbh. Most things people complain abo...
Thrust ds4 flamer zealot is four times as strong as knife zealot
fresh reef
bro is going to despise agile users
latent mauve
Four times
broken carbon
where is telopots voicing his concerns
nocturne dust
Thrust ds4 flamer zealot is four times as strong as knife zealot
I don't think knife zealot is all that strong. You have to be locked in the entire time, and you don't even do that much damage. It's purely clutch potential.
ds4 will probably be crazy tho, yeh
latent mauve
The knife is what, 5k dps
broken carbon
I don't think knife zealot is all that strong. You have to be locked in the enti...
you can easily 2-3 shot crushers, the only thing that’s relatively weaker is horde clear
other than that the knife is absurdly strong
fresh reef
The knife is what, 5k dps
I mean, with doublestabs you can do like what, 60k burst or something?
latent mauve
Yeah
nocturne dust
you can easily 2-3 shot crushers, the only thing that’s relatively weaker is hor...
Sure, but you can do that with a lot of weapons, and knife never has the output necessary to really turn the tide. At best, you get up your buddies who do that for you, or you literally dodge enemies the whole mission.
broken carbon
ok for context everyone deadvoid is the person saying rashad isn’t OP
so
that’s a point of relevance here
broken carbon
Sure, but you can do that with a lot of weapons, and knife never has the output ...
do you think that any weapon is overpowered?
latent mauve
fresh reef
I have genuinely never touched axes so I can't comment
nocturne dust
do you think that any weapon is overpowered?
Power sword is one. I mean, I think the issue with balance is more talents than weapons right now, if I had to say there's an issue.
latent mauve
Kills four enemies per light
broken carbon
Power sword is one. I mean, I think the issue with balance is more talents than ...
powersword is bad, but powersword is not as bad as rashad and knife
nocturne dust
Rashad is better than the psword
I really don't agree
latent mauve
You haven’t got a correctly built one do you
nocturne dust
The Rashad can't cleave a dozen crushers
latent mauve
Doesn’t need to
lyric burrow
Rashad also whay
latent mauve
Anyway
lyric burrow
2 shots them
nocturne dust
You haven’t got a correctly built one do you
sigh do I really have to open up Darktide just to take a pic of my Rashad
lyric burrow
With better attack speed and doesnt need to activate
latent mauve
If you don’t think it’s op, I think there’s something wrong with it or you
lyric burrow
I think its semi close but rashad is like top 1
nocturne dust
The Rashad is easy to use, sure.
latent mauve
Knife also very op
mental grail
Power sword is one. I mean, I think the issue with balance is more talents than ...
power sword post nerf is absolutely not OP
broken carbon
The Rashad can't cleave a dozen crushers
“this weapon cannot do something no other weapon can do so it is bad”
lyric burrow
Psword post nerf is still very much OP
latent mauve
Power sword removes pressure the second you equip it
fresh reef
doesn't psword 2 shot crushers with zero talents?
latent mauve
The Rashad is the second strongest horde clear weapon in the game
mental grail
Basically requires power cycler to be relevant
mental grail
w/ p cycler it's pretty bad, but it has basically exactly one way to build it or other options are way better
nocturne dust
lyric burrow
w/ p cycler it's pretty bad, but it has basically exactly one way to build it or...
This doesnt make it bad though
nocturne dust
There's my Rashad
lyric burrow
Badly designed
latent mauve
That’s a bad roll
nocturne dust
How so?
broken carbon
finesse dump
sinful peak
roll doesn't even matter I carried auric storms with a 1% damage roll rashad is just insane like that
restive ice
im out here worrying about third target with my limbsplitter thunderous axe
latent mauve
roll doesn't even matter I carried auric storms with a 1% damage roll rashad is ...
Be gone leaker
nocturne dust
I indeed would love a mobility dump Rashad, but you have to understand that the reality is 20% of finesse and first target really don't matter that much in the grand scheme of things
mental grail
This doesnt make it bad though
I mean "bad" as is a bit over-tuned. Without power cycler, it's basically a worse Illisi.
sinful peak
Be gone leaker
cry about it gatekeeper
latent mauve
3rd best
mental grail
Having used both, w/ out cycler it's a bit garbo.
fresh reef
Be gone leaker
wtf is a leaker lol
lyric burrow
Its bad without cycler ye the weapon needs a rework
potent echo
from the butt?
fresh reef
from the butt?
that's what I'm thinking
sinful peak
lyric burrow
wtf is a leaker lol
Data mined and then released id assume
fresh reef
wet fart or dataminer, call it
broken carbon
schizophrenia or data miner, call it
lyric burrow
Ah
fresh reef
schizophrenia
potent echo
so from the butt, got it
fresh reef
the answer is always schizophrenia
mental grail
restive ice
mental grail
💀
sinful peak
mental grail
Did I do an oopsie?
fresh reef
🪦
nocturne dust
You are a strange bunch.
restive ice
You are a strange bunch.
rejects for a reason
narrow herald
I came to psyker chat for one reason and one reason only
broken carbon
i don’t understand the elitism with it
latent mauve
The game ban is permanent for spreading it
mental grail
Oh
restive ice
I came to psyker chat for one reason and one reason only
to chew bubble gum?
mental grail
I didn't know that
narrow herald
Purge staff is going to get a rending blessing
lyric burrow
Yeah its dumb
narrow herald
narrow herald
Literally I just blow hot air in a general direction and everything dies
lyric burrow
They may remove that
narrow herald
Crushers?
unreal wasp
narrow herald
They making psyker even easier I see 😎
mental grail
broken carbon
i wonder if the rending will apply to the staff bash
lyric burrow
Im not sure why they would give infinite cleave weapons that kill everything but crushers rending
But you know
mental grail
It still clips
lyric burrow
It is what it is
nocturne dust
Im not sure why they would give infinite cleave weapons that kill everything but...
Trauma:
broken carbon
Im not sure why they would give infinite cleave weapons that kill everything but...
make the staff bash kill everything
potent echo
It is what it is
They moving towards plasma as the main balance of the game
lyric burrow
Id assume nerfs will come down the line cause player power was already through the roof
latent mauve
They moving towards plasma as the main balance of the game <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771...
Real
lyric burrow
But we will see
nocturne dust
They moving towards plasma as the main balance of the game <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771...
Excellent. No nerf, only buff. Buff weapons. Buff enemies. Buff lag.
latent mauve
Id assume nerfs will come down the line cause player power was already through t...
I highly doubt it
narrow herald
Im not sure why they would give infinite cleave weapons that kill everything but...
Psyker was always an easy class, might as well make it easier 😏
potent echo
Don't the devs also not play auric damns
mental grail
Psyker agrip burst auto
lyric burrow
Don't the devs also not play auric damns
Well the playtesters get input too
And they do
nocturne dust
Psyker was always an easy class, might as well make it easier 😏
Tell me which class is hard 
potent echo
Minimal I guess
potent echo
No way pots would sign off of anything lol
narrow herald
Tell me which class is hard <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Ogryn
mental grail
Don't the devs also not play auric damns
They probably do, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. Most players play heresy.
latent mauve
No way pots would sign off of anything lol
Not just telo…
nocturne dust
Ogryn <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
The 'only-heavy melee needed' class? lmao
narrow herald
Yes
potent echo
He's the most public one 🤷♂️
lyric burrow
They do, but its up to FS whether it goes through or how fast
potent echo
I'm not an insider
nocturne dust
or alternatively the 'all the bullets in that direction' class
mental grail
I think most of the player base is in malice/heresy/damn
narrow herald
Yes
latent mauve
Most of the auric playerbase should be in malice/heresy
narrow herald
I think most of the player base is in malice/heresy/damn
Tru, but they should be in recruit 😔
lyric burrow
Last i knew most people play malice
latent mauve
They do, but its up to FS whether it goes through or how fast
Rending applied to dot
narrow herald
I'm going to address the elephant in the room
latent mauve
Nobody who play tests asked for that
narrow herald
People who go on higher difficulties to get carried are parasites
There I said it 😏
latent mauve
On an infinite cleave weapon
potent echo
People who go on higher difficulties to get carried are parasites
They also make the game more fun for me soo
latent mauve
They don’t care, the director of combat design left with patch 13
potent echo
They don’t care, the director of combat design left with patch 13
You mean Magnusson or
lyric burrow
Nobody who play tests asked for that
Well if FS says it goes itll go
mental grail
Last i knew most people play malice
likely
narrow herald
Hey, I get to hyper farm mats I'll take it 🤷🏻
narrow herald
I recommend Fatshark to add ranked Matchmaking, change my mind 🧍🏻
potent echo
Auric QP is the power fantasy
unreal wasp
If I'm running for map achievements and such I play Auric Damnation, if I'm just having a relaxed time I play Heresy 
potent echo
I recommend Fatshark to add ranked Matchmaking, change my mind 🧍🏻
Yes this, but instead I want them to add all the shitters to me team
nocturne dust
Or playing for power fantasy
Ngl, malice is a crap power fantasy. Not enough enemies.
mental grail
That does include level 30s just speed running malice
best way to get your downed penances
lyric burrow
Ngl, malice is a crap power fantasy. Not enough enemies.
Some people just purely want to steamroll and auto win
God mod essentially
potent echo
I don't want to see another peeplasma vet no nuh
latent mauve
Some people just purely want to steamroll and auto win
That’s why everything is getting plasma tier
mental grail
I tried to get it on damnation but amazingly, my teammate quality went down.
Not sure how it's possible
nocturne dust
Some people just purely want to steamroll and auto win
I get that, but my point is that it's not really exciting. Even if you want to chew your way through a horde like a hot knife through butter, Malice doesn't spawn a horde like Auric/Dam or even Heresy. It's kind of pitiful, really.
narrow herald
I try auric dam, shitters, normal dam, shitters
So I have to go to malic to find the good players? 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
lyric burrow
I get that, but my point is that it's not really exciting. Even if you want to c...
Yeah i dont get it
latent mauve
Malice players belong in malice
unreal wasp
I get that, but my point is that it's not really exciting. Even if you want to c...
Pressing F on 200 or more enemies and seeing the pretty colors 
latent mauve
Can't wait to see the nerf list
0
nocturne dust
Like, I think it'd be helpful to have difficulty change enemy numbers less so those who want the power fantasy can at least... have the power fantasy when they play sedition, lol. Maybe drop the disabler numbers (or potentially all elites/specialists), but other than that I think the numbers should stay constant.
latent mauve
Well, I am here to destroy your hopes
haughty star
Psyker boutta be even more cracked lol
latent mauve
That is the finished balance pass
narrow herald
Maybe Fatshark should actually have a good learning experience? 🤔
latent mauve
potent echo
Onlybuffs 
potent echo
Give diff6, now
latent mauve
The primary market
nocturne dust
Consoles can’t handle it
Consoles could handle a pure number bump
latent mauve
The engine breaks and consoles just die if we jack up spawn rates
nocturne dust
Just give them more hp/stagger resist
potent echo
Ah is that why spawns are "broken"
mental grail
Monkeys paw situation
narrow herald
Hey, we exploit the weapons while the malice players stay trapped in in their little malice maelstrom for all eternity
latent mauve
Ah is that why spawns are "broken"
Yep
latent mauve
Than give them their own shirty lobby for shitty consoles
Well
latent mauve
FatShark got money to not do that
haughty star
FatShark got money to not do that
Big oof
mental grail
Consoles increase playerbase and funding but simultaneously hold back true swarms. You hate to see it.
nocturne dust
Difficulty 6: Up their animation speed, make everything tighter to react to.
latent mauve
nocturne dust
Consoles should be able to handle that, no?
latent mauve
Difficulty 6: Up their animation speed, make everything tighter to react to.
Won’t sell well on ps5
haughty star
It isn't on ps5
nocturne dust
Won’t sell well on ps5
Wdym?
latent mauve
The power fantasy is why the power creep is jumping massively
narrow herald
Xbox player attempting to turn 30°:
nocturne dust
Idk about that, why'd they buff shooters then?
latent mauve
So either we get diff 6 with no extra rewards or the same thing happens but brand new console players pick diff 6 and die, and complain
nocturne dust
Well, there should be no extra rewards, yeah
latent mauve
Idk about that, why'd they buff shooters then?
This is the tell tale that they don’t listen to playtesters
nocturne dust
This is the tell tale that they don’t listen to playtesters
How so?
latent mauve
If they did gunner stun would be removed
potent echo
They buffed shooters?
latent mauve
They buffed shooters?
For 1 week
nocturne dust
They buffed shooters?
A bit ago, yeah. Then retracted some of the buff because it was a bit... obscene.
potent echo
Oh yea remember that a little
robust jacinth
I am currently having a fantastic time telling people who didn't read the patch notes well enough that smite isn't going to have a stun next patch.
nocturne dust
I can handle my own on auric and even I think it was pretty bad in an annoying way. It was just unfun dealing with constant shooter waves.
latent mauve
Oh it was
potent echo
Dwons+ soon I guess 
robust jacinth
They were really gonna remove smite stun?
No
nocturne dust
broken quail
Yeah could use higher difficulty, preferably without a monstrosity spawning on every special kill.
Just looking at some zealot blessing buffs makes me think Why
latent mauve
But the people who belong in heresy and below died so many times it had to be removed
potent echo
Slaughterer crusher oheaaa
robust jacinth
Yeah could use higher difficulty, preferably without a monstrosity spawning on e...
As zealot main, I agree
lethal lagoon
I am currently having a fantastic time telling people who didn't read the patch ...
See you've made the mistake of assuming fatshark writes notes in a proper way.
latent mauve
Yeah could use higher difficulty, preferably without a monstrosity spawning on e...
Delusional design choices made by people who can’t design the game
potent echo
Where are these gamers going to
latent mauve
Not a single playtester agreed with that
potent echo
Are they gonna make a fatbreezehead
nocturne dust
Not a single playtester agreed with that
Idk, are we sure these playtesters aren't those bad players?
robust jacinth
See you've made the mistake of assuming fatshark writes notes in a proper way.
While I wish with my entire being for a smite rework I will take being able to mess with "those" smykers.
latent mauve
Idk, are we sure these playtesters aren't those bad players?
Which group
First group is good players
Second is idiots collected from the forums
strong gulch
LOL
This sums up the games tonight.
robust jacinth
The flamer with rending is S++ tier
Honestly the more surprising was the purg staff
potent echo
Blaze away and rending lul
Well purg was already dummy broken the only thing it couldn't kill was crushers
latent mauve
Blaze away and rending lul
I think I will stick to duos from now on
potent echo
People just don't know cause dummythicc
nocturne dust
Honestly I do enjoy the flame fantasy of being able to burn everything away and it didn't make huge sense to me that purgatus didn't... turn fat tin cans into ovens.
latent mauve
Or solos
potent echo
Duos is easy
Because the other guy is competent
If you have 3 shitters it's real fun
latent mauve
Only to get out damaged 5:1 because someone picked rending flamer
Yeah
Not for me
mental rock
Could flamer rending work well with showstopper? If the explosions have damage falloff like the rumbler rending would negate that
nocturne dust
It's all fun and games until the poxburster gets shot by the vet while you're pushing it
potent echo
Plasma oooo
nocturne dust
Only to get out damaged 5:1 because someone picked rending flamer
Care less about scoreboard? lol
latent mauve
I don’t
I do care about enemies being wiped instantly
Hence why nothing needed to be as strong as plasma
nocturne dust
Just take knife and run ahead of flamer
latent mauve
But they made two weapons so comically op that this forms the new meta, until something else creeps it out
nocturne dust
I mean, I'll have to see the balance in game. People have to make a lot of assumptions (granted, we have precedent) about how things work for a lot of things to get to some sort of conclusion currently.
fresh reef
game at the highest difficulty intended for four players should indeed be hard with everyone needing to pull their weight
latent mauve
game at the highest difficulty intended for four players should indeed be hard w...
Can’t have that
It’s funny
I’m always happy to play with shit players
fresh reef
I’m always happy to play with shit players
omg me
nocturne dust
game at the highest difficulty intended for four players should indeed be hard w...
But let's be fair, there's always crazies who can just... do it themselves or somehow manage.
latent mauve
I just refuse to play with things that turn off the game
latent mauve
except like, maybe ogryn
Car sales
True solo is just about being patient
All but the power maul on ogryn melee wise is strong
robust jacinth
Power maul with extra explosions soon
When do we get access to the exploding lances that kreigsman use?
robust jacinth
New weapons? Lol
Coming with the ratling patch
mental grail
The power fantasy is why the power creep is jumping massively
I mean, the reddit is small snapshot of players, and they're kinda bad.
If the main playerbase is even more casual that that?
💀
fresh reef
Karsolas
goes to show how much I play Ogryn
I didn't know what Karsolas meant either 🧎♀️
strong gulch
fresh reef
is shirtless or prison pajamas more based?
latent mauve
is shirtless or prison pajamas more based?
Remove_locks more based
strong gulch
Oh, brunt has something tasty for the crafting update.
tawny pebble
Remove_locks more based
"you will wear the toilet seat and you will like it"
languid shuttle
Any good tips to improve my knife psyker gameplay?
mossy oyster
get better at knife
languid shuttle
I feel like I'm dying too much to make the damage output worth it
Especially when the other two human classes do knives better
mossy oyster
eh zealot probably gets the best out of knife still
languid shuttle
Or is there another melee weapon that works better for a scrier's gaze melee build?
mossy oyster
vet and soyker is a toss up
mossy oyster
Or is there another melee weapon that works better for a scrier's gaze melee bui...
kid named DS4
mossy oyster
duelling sword
languid shuttle
Sadly it's a bad fit for the character and I play 40k games to roleplay, damnit
otherwise I probably would
but my girl Solara is an angry punk rock chick who doesn't have the patience to learn how to fight like that
mossy oyster
well if it cant fit your roleplay fantasy
languid shuttle
thus, knife