people talking about their cats:
#psyker-class
restive ice
mossy oyster
yes beloved, ammunition
strong gulch
people talking about their cats:
ture
fresh reef
the voiceline "My dream, my rules, my shield!" hits different when it sends a poxburster careening into a pack of hounds
Wall >>> Smite
fresh reef
I'll save ya, I'm good like that
arctic shard
i like gun psyker
arctic shard
wall >>> bubble
bubble cos like me with assail it goes pop 😄
fresh reef
My fav gotta just be the [Crazy/manical laughter]
I love how different that voice line comes across between the two Seers
F Seer is on some cruel power trip, and M Seer is just giggling like a schoolgirl
halcyon gust
M Seer is just having a good old time
None of it is real of course
It is just a happy little dream!
long wharf
that video was awfully short
though I guess it's good to know I was right about my guess on how the stats will work going forwards
sturdy tendon
I love F Loner, but I hate her cheers tbh
mental grail
mentally zoning out until September 20-something
sturdy tendon
Everyone is like For the emperor, for cadia and then you go, I will survive
mental grail
I love F Loner, but I hate her cheers tbh
"For the Emperor, I'm sure..."
sturdy tendon
"For the Emperor, I'm sure..."
That's the only one I love
Especially if it's before or after someone yells for the emperor
mental grail
"Oh look, we're winning!" —fem seer sounding legit surprised
mental grail
I've gone out of my way to not use the shield after that line 
"Well now I don't wanna use it"
radiant frigate
I love F Loner, but I hate her cheers tbh
not dead yet? lucky me!
lethal lagoon
"Time’s running out! Players will race against time and repel heretics in this shorter high-octane mission in which players’ strike teams are the only thing standing between a barreling freight train and Tertium. "
Do we finally have a horde mission in a horde game
strong gulch
"Healing is for REAL people, not dreams."
mental rock
my bets are that its a mission with a time limit, based on the description
sounds like we have to stop a train before it blows up tertium
strong gulch
Female seer using the med station at high health and another playering calling it out.
lethal lagoon
inland whale
for this sword what is the dump stat, ive heard cleave damage and mobility are good but i just wanted a second opinion
latent mauve
10 bucks says I can do it in 48 hours
hollow current
for this sword what is the dump stat, ive heard cleave damage and mobility are g...
Priority for MIV I believe is Finesse > Damage>Penetration>Cleave>Mobility.
lethal lagoon
Hmm, there are no breakpoints between 70 and 80% damage, right?
Some of the crusher kills can be close
strong gulch
for this sword what is the dump stat, ive heard cleave damage and mobility are g...
Yeah. Mobility and cleave are dump stats. More so mobility than cleave damage.
lethal lagoon
for this sword what is the dump stat, ive heard cleave damage and mobility are g...
I would upgrade both, see what rolls you get.
hollow current
cleave damage only affects unarmored and infested I think.
But it's still damage, albeit not that much.
strong gulch
Hmm, there are no breakpoints between 70 and 80% damage, right?
Iirc, you'll be just short of a bulwark BP (assuming unyielding is on the weapon). BUT I can't remember the context. So.. 🤷
inland whale
I would upgrade both, see what rolls you get.
goated roll
fresh reef
men fear me
women fear me
heretics fear me
fish fear me
I am alone on barren Terra
upper sun
wore the exact same thing while grinding penances so people know im gonna suck
lethal lagoon
goated roll
Just to be clear, the Riposte and the Manics is the goated roll.
But yeah, pretty goated.
inland whale
correct
lethal lagoon
Last person I helped bricked their great roll, so I'm just asking haha.
inland whale
adding on carapace
hollow current
Or rather, really good considering how hadron ruins everything
lethal lagoon
wore the exact same thing while grinding penances so people know im gonna suck
The name is enough
mental grail
wore the exact same thing while grinding penances so people know im gonna suck
I ball out on drip so that when I accidentally proc perils, my corpse looks swagger as it flies across their screen
lethal lagoon
I've been discovered.
I actually just leave on the game AFK while I chat in the discord.
My hours are fake and so are my scoreboards.
lethal lagoon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1272944106255159296/W...
Did you just have that saved for a moment like this?
That's kinda based.
upper sun
Did you just have that saved for a moment like this?
ya
strong gulch
My hours are definitely fake.
upper sun
ikr
i saw one sick chainsword skin that one person had
all my time checking the store it never appeared
it was shark teeth on the chainsword
north hatch
Did you see it in game or was it a screenshot
Cause it could've been someone modding it in
mossy oyster
it was shark teeth on the chainsword
?
no way
i looked up all zeal's cosmetics from vestures so far
upper sun
Did you see it in game or was it a screenshot
in game
mossy oyster
they've only had 2 evisc skins
upper sun
it was chainsword not evi
upper sun
i would have looked at them more 😭
mossy oyster
north hatch
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer-40k-darktide/images/7/7a/Cadias_Teet...
Oh that's pretty good
mossy oyster
we get these beauts though
north hatch
Honestly I don't see why we can't have just a catalogue of every cosmetic
mental grail
Did you see it in game or was it a screenshot
In game
mossy oyster
and a big ass scripture on it
north hatch
Just to see what's available
mental grail
It's the self repaired chainsword
mental grail
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer-40k-darktide/images/7/7a/Cadias_Teet...
Wait WHAT
I missed this?
mossy oyster
if anything im mad I missed these looking back at it
upper sun
ikno ikno
mental grail
The cadian sets have all returned besides the cool parts
mossy oyster
mental grail
aka the kickass skins
mossy oyster
agreed
north hatch
Id love it without the military paint job
mossy oyster
cough cosmetics/things to wear should be on the 2-3 week rotation we have now, and the weapons skins should be a perma thing to select and choose to buy from (I heard VT2 had a shop kinda like that)
north hatch
But camo + religious iconography is very 40k
mossy oyster
🕵️
lethal lagoon
I just realized weapons with super dumps, are probably ideal for the next patch
mental grail
Oof
lethal lagoon
That's my EP smite staff
Cause you aren't really spamming surge
So the extra peril kinda feels nice honestly
vernal frost
I just realized weapons with super dumps, are probably ideal for the next patch
thats already a godroll what are you talking about 😭
lethal lagoon
Edging probably lowers your lifespan
Because it raises your heartrate without the hormesis benefit of exercise.
lethal lagoon
It's also why the "think of an ugly old man" is bad advice for lasting longer. Your heartrate is the problem, not what's going on.
Peril edge with mindfulness
strong gulch
Bed calisthenics
lethal lagoon
Hmm, does maintaining high peril make you live longer or shorter in 40k?
I feel like being in tune with warp would lengthen your natural life, but probably not your actual life
mossy oyster
soykers are constantly thinking of an ugly old man
but its more like a 4000 millenia dead old man
lethal lagoon
but its more like a 4000 millenia dead old man
That would make them blow up quicker though
strong gulch
If you're about to be crushed or shredded, edging sound like a 50/50.
lethal lagoon
north hatch
I feel like being in tune with warp would lengthen your natural life, but probab...
I think itd be super stressful and lorewise actual psykers that are untrained just die to daemons most of the time so probably wouldn't lengthen either life
haughty star
Stay bricked up, Soyker Kings
mental grail
It's also why the "think of an ugly old man" is bad advice for lasting longer. Y...
an edging expert?
I kneel
strong gulch
Or sit gay.
lethal lagoon
mental grail
paying my respects
cosmic sigil
Or sit gay.
How do you sit... gay? oO
north hatch
In a sassy fruity way
cosmic sigil
restive ice
i sit in a vegetable way
north hatch
You're such a cute little vegetable
restive ice
:3
north hatch
If I heard someone say that IRL I'd be very concerned kek
restive ice
if someone says colon 3 irl th ey hsould be shot
strong gulch
How do you sit... gay? oO
Be gay and sit.
cosmic sigil
🤔
fresh reef
If you're about to be crushed or shredded, edging sound like a 50/50.
What an amazing sentence to read before realizing discord opened into psyker chat
meager hearth
I don't get Voidstaff still
I can charge up for 3 seconds and 25 peril to deal 1/3rd damage to a Malice Crusher on a headshot which seems...anemic
upper sun
what blessings do you have on it?
broken carbon
I don't get Voidstaff still
I can charge up for 3 seconds and 25 peril to deal 1...
what level are you?
and what’s the base rating
halcyon gust
Because Voidstrike does great damage
meager hearth
what level are you?
308 rating profane
jovial juniper
💀
upper sun
yeah thats your problem
meager hearth
Does it have like a god blessing you need
halcyon gust
Get a hiher base rating first
upper sun
either nexus/flurry or surge/nexus
meager hearth
Well yeah I'm just trying it out while leveling
broken carbon
308 rating profane
yeah, staves have a really wide stat difference between low and high %s
strong gulch
Does it have like a god blessing you need
Staves have wide scaling. Low stats really hurt staves in general.
upper sun
also yeah dont bother with staves before 30
broken carbon
Well yeah I'm just trying it out while leveling
dont really mess with staves until ur level 30, theyll all feel bad
halcyon gust
High priority stats is Damage, Charge rate, Warp resistance, Blast radius, Quell for Void
In that order
For void
meager hearth
dont really mess with staves until ur level 30, theyll all feel bad
Figures, I've also noticed how Assail with and without DD is like night and day
halcyon gust
Trauma is Charge, Blast, Damage, Warp, Quell
broken carbon
High priority stats is Damage, Charge rate, Warp resistance, Blast radius, Quell...
u could argue that warp res is less important than quell speed
generating peril is something that i find i dont do enough with psyker
and also makes it easier to maintain high peril buffs
halcyon gust
I guess depends on Preference
broken carbon
Figures, I've also noticed how Assail with and without DD is like night and day
yeah DD is one of the stronger keystones
halcyon gust
I tend to focus a bit more on Wrap Res so I can fire off more shots before I need to "Cool down"
broken carbon
usually with the void i will just quell for like half a second so i can fire another shot
strong gulch
If you don't like guns, assail is good and ignores gear rng. Surge staff does its job surprisingly well with low stats because of the CC and shooter management. It's much better when properly invested in tho.
halcyon gust
And it makes it easier to maintain high peril when you know you squeeze 2 more shots instead of 1
upper sun
dont hit mauler heads btw
spice veldt
fyi the first shot isn't a headshot
you can check by looking at your true aim stacks
upper sun
ye
broken carbon
dont hit mauler heads btw
wha
i usually go for mauler heads
except when i need 2 cleave
upper sun
I dont have carapace on it
jovial juniper
Support psyker but it's just trauma staff
brazen rampart
(They aren't supporting much because trauma just throws shit to the ground so I can't tell what's alive and what's not until it stands back up)
strong gulch
If an enemy is on the ground and you can't walk through it, it's alive.
strong gulch
IDK about green gas buffed bursters or if there was lag or desync. Ever since this one time that a bonbon didn't body slam in my partner's game but it did in mine (and yeeted him into the abyss), I just blame the game when something off happens.
Sorry for not actully helping tho.
upper sun
what do you mean? I will simply read that as "Yeah its the servers your push was legit"
strong gulch
Good reading tbh
plucky flax
I am back in time for update. 4 months 'vacation' worth it. 
upper sun
shoulda made it 5
broken carbon
anyone GOOD online?
hi
broken carbon
was this push legit or no?
poxbursters lose their stagger resistance during their jump
so sometimes when they bug like that and dont jump
it can be really inconsistent
upper sun
so sometimes when they bug like that and dont jump
GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME
plucky flax
Back around the 15th. Update on 26th. 
upper sun
SERVERS PLEASE
broken carbon
LMAO
plucky flax
1 week to get back to top 1% level.
broken carbon
skill issue undiagnosed
upper sun
Back around the 15th. Update on 26th. <:Pog:772746726175146006>
good enough
u got enough plasteel for blazing spirit 4?
strong gulch
Back around the 15th. Update on 26th. <:Pog:772746726175146006>
More than enought time to get gud again.
plucky flax
I recall having around... 50k+?
I haven't watched the trailer.
Can we get more than 80% stat or?
upper sun
no just max to 380
jovial juniper
Nuh uh, 80 or nothing
plucky flax
My staff is 376 I think so I can get 4 more quell speed.
fresh reef
Double checking, does anyone know what the Seers refer to their teammates as generally? (ie Savant's associates or the Agitator's sinners)
strong gulch
I play seer and have no idea. 
strong gulch
Seems pretty on brand for it to be some type of friend but also forgetting.
broken carbon
Double checking, does anyone know what the Seers refer to their teammates as gen...
zealot is called zealot/fanatic
ogryn is called slab/brute
vet is called veteran
fresh reef
I was looking for the general one
Like how Savant refers to the entire squad as associate
lethal lagoon
Back around the 15th. Update on 26th. <:Pog:772746726175146006>
I can't rub being able to play the update in your face anymore
lethal lagoon
Vigourously.
broken carbon
hes jorkin it
plucky flax
I can't rub being able to play the update in your face anymore
Rub me daddy uwu
lethal lagoon
I'm going to leave that mispelled just to emphasis how vigourous I'd be.
broken carbon
Rub me daddy uwu
ok die
plucky flax
plucky flax
lethal lagoon
Embrace shame and guilt
Feel nothing but emptiness at your core
Help, there's another storm, I might become AtlasWhoLivesInATreeHouseAgain
strong gulch
I hope not.
plucky flax
Nice country.
lethal lagoon
Climate Change is scary uwu
I kinda thought I was north enough to have one of those climate-change free properties
strong gulch
Nope. It's everywhere. It'll getcha.
mossy oyster
Double checking, does anyone know what the Seers refer to their teammates as gen...
Why would we need a name for people we dream up?
(Granted I’ve heard a voice line for male and female Seer stating they like the rejects they go on missions with) and they plan to dream up with them in it more
strong gulch
Brain fog is getting stronger by the moment. Shout out to purg and ep BB for being so simple to use.
hardy flower
vet is called veteran
Yemean sah
strong gulch
ornate hamlet
hi, what is the "dump stat" for psyker weps?
also is there a consensus on which dueling sword is the best? after trying them I think I prefer the IV reminds me of saltzpyres rapier
jovial juniper
Yeah it's the 4
broken carbon
hi, what is the "dump stat" for psyker weps?
warp resistance
mobility
are the two main ones
broken carbon
also is there a consensus on which dueling sword is the best? after trying them ...
yeah 4 is widely seen as the best, although recently one of the other marks of dueling sword was buffed so the thrust heavy does the same damage as the ds4, it’s the mark that has a heavy slash into heavy thrust
can’t remember which it is though
jovial juniper
Mk2 my beloved 
restive ice
mawk tuah
broken carbon
Mk2 my beloved <:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
how is its horde clear
is it at least like acceptable
broken carbon
It feels weird because the H2 has a diagonal angle
how’s the cleave
jovial juniper
Lights are 4.5
H1 is 1.5
H2 is 6.5
Those are base
With Rampage 4
Lights are 6.12
H1 is 2.04
H2 is 8.84
broken carbon
With Rampage 4
Lights are 6.12
H1 is 2.04
H2 is 8.84
is it able to kill more than one chaff per hit lol
strong gulch
DS2 horde clear is better and easier than the DS4. DS2 has faster and wider lights. You can chain the H1 and special together really quickly.
DS4 still has better single target tho.
jovial juniper
is it able to kill more than one chaff per hit lol
I'd have to check the ADMs, if you can hit the first target for more than 700 you can probably kill 2 walkers per H2
Assuming you have good Cleave Damage stats
Not to mention damaging whatever you can hit after those 2
broken carbon
I'd have to check the ADMs, if you can hit the first target for more than 700 yo...
fair
if it can kill more than one then its significantly better than the ds4 lol
broken carbon
DS2 horde clear is better and easier than the DS4. DS2 has faster and wider ligh...
the special is the same right?
novel rain
Is this good?
strong gulch
the special is the same right?
Yes.
novel rain
Idk if I should swap either for infernus or not
I think the crit rate is alr really high
strong gulch
Idk if I should swap either for infernus or not
Headhunter doesn't do much if you are taking true aim.
broken carbon
Idk if I should swap either for infernus or not
headhunter is still good because crit strings are i think 2 shots?
lethal lagoon
dum dum infernous is the play
No
headhunter resets on crit
It's almost useless with true aim
broken carbon
ohg yeah nvm
novel rain
Yeah thought so
broken carbon
they're right
strong gulch
Crit string is 2
broken carbon
forgot about it resetting
lethal lagoon
You forgot everything
novel rain
I think I gotta get true aim in my build tho
lethal lagoon
Including my total victory
broken carbon
bazinga
lethal lagoon
⚽ 
broken carbon
I think I gotta get true aim in my build tho
if ur running recon
ur gonna want to take disrupt destiny
broken carbon
which has true aim on its way
novel rain
ah okay then I have it
broken carbon
What's it like having never know the booty cheeks of victory
i won though
novel rain
Im running dd
broken carbon
i won a match
lethal lagoon
No?
broken carbon
idiot
broken carbon
i literally did
lethal lagoon
Nope
lethal lagoon
I can 100% confirm you never won a match
lethal lagoon
broken carbon
I can 100% confirm you never won a match
i 101% deny your confirmation
so
therefor
i win
lethal lagoon
You can only confirm something 100%
So 101% just goes back to 1%
You are 1% sure
Therefore this is my complete mathmatical victory
lethal lagoon
i 101% deny your confirmation
broken carbon
Therefore this is my complete mathmatical victory
but you forget
improper fractions
i deny you 101/100
more than 1
more than 100%
therefor
broken carbon
i win again
lethal lagoon
back to 1%
lethal lagoon
therefore
broken carbon
lethal lagoon
It's kinda like yelling "fore!!!"
lethal lagoon
therefore
lethal lagoon
lets you know something is coming
Just like fore
Just like your mom
She's always coming
broken carbon
explode
lethal lagoon
TFW your mom get's ready to take out her dentures for me.
broken carbon
TFW your mom get's ready to take out her dentures for me.
lethal lagoon
Your mom called me a Nice young guy the first time she met me.
Now, she never wants me to be nice.
broken carbon
Your mom called me a Nice young guy the first time she met me.
Now, she never wa...
idk why ur getting so upset
all i said was that i beat u in haxball
n ur so mad
broken carbon
die mad
lethal lagoon
broken carbon
strong gulch
Why be mad when you can squish some squishies.
lethal lagoon
I'm guessing EU peeps find that gif a lot more funny
broken carbon
idk
lethal lagoon
Or would they be offended?
broken carbon
i just work here
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
Exploding kittens is a decent card game
strong gulch
I have it but never played it.
broken carbon
my bad gang
hardy raft
potent echo
potent echo
Is that a gym or a factory floor
lilac sigil
Yeah Melk is for buying blessing unlocks directly in most cases (and Uncanny IV does seem like one of the best ones for that class of weap)
north hatch
Maybe not cause of that guy who keeps spouting that uncannys getting nerfed to all hell 😭
ornate abyss
Do I rip uc4 and put it on the other one?
lilac sigil
I mean depends on how extreme. imo Fatshark has an above average track record for balancing things, but not outright nerfing them. So it'll probably still be reasonably useful.
north hatch
Do I rip uc4 and put it on the other one?
That's not the worst idea ripping uc4
Also put deflect
Actually no
Uc4 is imo better on the Deimos
For single target damage
For illsi isn't slaughter just straight up better?
I run slaughteret and deflect at least
For mobbing
ornate abyss
My deimos need uc4 tho
north hatch
I could be wrong uc4 is very strong
But afaik illsi is only really good against horde enemies and Deimos is the pointy stabby kill crushers one
ornate abyss
Current ilsi has better perks tho
north hatch
I use slaughterer cause it's very easy to stack by just murdering poxwalkers
And then deflect cause it gives me a way to run from gunners and shit and kinetic deflection generates me toughness sometimes which is nice
You could probably stack uc4 easily too by just hitting poxwalkers heads
ornate abyss
I think I keep my isli and don't buy from Melk
north hatch
I didn't realize the uncanny IV one was yours I thought it was melks
But yeah your illsi is good
plucky flax
Should I buy from melk?
This one is okay good damage stats but warp resistance is too high for my liking. You can go flak maniac uncanny slaughterer
north hatch
This one is okay good damage stats but warp resistance is too high for my liking...
Oh yeah how much warp resist is good cause you still want to build peril right?
Could you use it as a dump stat?
plucky flax
No not dump since you want to cast special actions quite regularly. I like around 50 60 percent something
north hatch
Whys too high bad? The only thing I can think of at the top of my head is the toughness per peril ability maybe being affected
plucky flax
Warp rider talent. More peril more damage. Also synergies with creeping flames as you want to cast it above 84% peril for 6 stacks
My illisi has 58% and I can reach critical peril in 5 specials. Too high and it can be upward of 8 specials before you can cast creeping flames.
north hatch
Right I forgot about that
I was thinking of swapping deflect + slaughterer with soul blaze + deflect
plucky flax
Too low and you might struggle a bit against ragers and maulers pack if you need to melee them.
No no always slaughterer.
upper sun
I was thinking of swapping deflect + slaughterer with soul blaze + deflect
no soulblaze on melee 😭
plucky flax
On illisi. I use slaughterer deflector personally. Some people go double damage blessing with slaughterer shred or slaughterer uncanny/whatever extra power blessing.
north hatch
Is soul blaze no good? I saw some guy build it and was curious to try it out
plucky flax
It's good meme.
north hatch
Ig pretty useless since you can just use shriek
upper sun
its mid
plucky flax
But it's so much slower horde kill time than slaughterer.
north hatch
How does uncanny strike compare cause I feel like you could stack it pretty fast too if you just start swinging at head height no?
upper sun
the second/third target damage scalling is way too low
plucky flax
If you want to kill crusher yeah I guess. But you already 1 or 2 hits chaff with light attack and 5 stacks slaughterer.
Uncanny doesn't apply to soft targets.
upper sun
ye ikno
north hatch
Oh I thought it did ok that makes more sense
upper sun
man idk we have to stack 17 buffs to clear
ive seen vets clear faster with helbore melee than me
north hatch
Ngl is the illsi special good? I swear just spamming m1 clears horses faster than charging it
upper sun
while i have a slaughter executor 380 illisi
plucky flax
Spam special light if you don't have time. Special heavy if you have space.
north hatch
Wait executor works on soft targets
plucky flax
It is more efficient than light spam although light spam is still op against chaffs. Remember it's the extra power from warp rider too.
north hatch
But uncanny only work on elite enemies?
plucky flax
On armoured dudes and unyielding.
north hatch
Bruh why doesn't it say this all it says is on weak spot 😭
plucky flax
It says rending
upper sun
hey man how are you gonna use armor pen on a target wearning no armor
north hatch
It says rending
Am I just blind or does the game not ever tell you what rending is
plucky flax
It doesn't xd
north hatch
The first result on Google for what rending is is on reddit
Not even on the wiki 😭
I had to download a mod to explain stats and even using it I had to be told what rending was by you guys just now
upper sun
reading is too hard more buffs = more better
try to stack as many nice colors on the bottom of your monitor like grey, dark purple, light blue
if you see light purple/pink run away easy
plucky flax
Uncanny is really good on deimos for crusher poking. I use uncanny deflector on mine.
north hatch
I use uncanny deflector on mine too
plucky flax
Nice shield meme
upper sun
thank u thank u
plucky flax
Good for ranged scab only
north hatch
Huh is stamina good for the additional shielding it gives
Not for the deimos but for the illsi?
I can't imagine illsis horde clear would be that negatively affected since horde enemies have no health anyways
plucky flax
Yeah but I like flak maniac on mine too kill ragers.
And mutants.
I always run kinetic deflection for extra block anyway
ionic magnet
what's rending and finesse damage do?
dusty ferry
Rending bypasses armor
ionic magnet
Rending bypasses armor
that makes so much sense....
dusty ferry
It essentially means armor blocks less of your damage
north hatch
Bruh whys it called rending why can't it be called armor pen
dusty ferry
that makes so much sense....
I know right🤣
north hatch
AAAAAAAA
dusty ferry
Bruh whys it called rending why can't it be called armor pen
Because that would be to easy 😉
Britlleness is the same as rending
ionic magnet
what about finesse?
north hatch
Britlleness is the same as rending
WHAT
dusty ferry
But it's a debbuf applied to the enemy which means all your team gets Armor penetrantion
dusty ferry
what about finesse?
Finisee does a variety of things
It increases attack speed , critical hit and weak spot damage
ionic magnet
It increases attack speed , critical hit and weak spot damage
ooooooo thats why the rapier is so damned good
dusty ferry
Other can contest me but to me it seams more important than damage
ionic magnet
i tried using a knife with a zealot classs but all i learned is that im trash with zealot
ionic magnet
lmao ive seen that build before and others do good with it
I am not one of them
i tried lol
dusty ferry
ye it can be very hard
since it relies on you having good base mechanics 😂
like dodging , blocking and all that jazz
ionic magnet
the crazy thing is i have no problem dodging and blocking with Psyker, veteran and Ogryn
north hatch
btw u 2 new?
I wouldn't say new I have like 300 hours
ionic magnet
the moment i touch the Zealot i go full moron
north hatch
This games just ass at descriptions
ionic magnet
yeah i got 500 hours in myself but i just recently picked it back up after a long time
dusty ferry
did you seriously never figure out what rending and brittleness did
ionic magnet
yep lmao
ionic magnet
i used it
north hatch
I just followed builds and got uncanny strike IV
dusty ferry
maybe it's me
ionic magnet
and i could feel the difference but i couldnt tell what the difference was
dusty ferry
Mayne I'm just a nerd
north hatch
and i could feel the difference but i couldnt tell what the difference was
Basically this
Low-key I just think the game sucks major ass at giving you info
dusty ferry
I mean since weapons are random anyways it doesn't matter I guess
dusty ferry
Low-key I just think the game sucks major ass at giving you info
ye I agree
ionic magnet
Low-key I just think the game sucks major ass at giving you info
facts
dusty ferry
there should be some kind of dictionary for I for info this
maybe they could add that in the next crafting themed update
but ok then
glad I could help
ionic magnet
yeah thanks for that. Deff makes allot more sense now
upper sun
Britlleness is the same as rending
brit is applied to the target while rending is applied to you
dusty ferry
ye I know
zinc sphinx
I need help sparkies, I not play sparkie nuff tah know wot all's good with em
dusty ferry
No problem big boy
but be more specific
what do yiu need , weapons, the skill tree?
upper sun
I need help sparkies, I not play sparkie nuff tah know wot all's good with em
big aoe damage
better dodges than ogryn so you can dance around
and you can regen toughness without having to go in melee
zinc sphinx
what do yiu need , weapons, the skill tree?
everything, am new, not gonna worry about crafting till 30 though
upper sun
what weapons do you like? we can help you find builds for those
upper sun
everything, am new, not gonna worry about crafting till 30 though
oh yeah also staves scale rough dont even bother with them until you're 30 too
zinc sphinx
what weapons do you like? we can help you find builds for those
I like AOE staffs, brain burst, and I have a feeling I'll use either vent or shield
zinc sphinx
these are my weapons right now, not like devil claw much though
upper sun
i mean its alright dclaw has good clear nice pairing with void
also on lower levels assail is gonna do a lot of damage its prolly gonna be better than most ranged weapons you use
zinc sphinx
and as sparkie, guns don't feel right, so I wanna stick to staffs
zinc sphinx
also on lower levels assail is gonna do a lot of damage its prolly gonna be bett...
I want to be good, not take an easier route
upper sun
ye guns feel better on vet
upper sun
I want to be good, not take an easier route
its not the skill part its just that it flat out does more
staves need better ratings than other weapons
zinc sphinx
don't matter, as ogryn, I find assail sparkies annoying for stealing my picks, I don't want to be that psyker
upper sun
tru
dusty ferry
don't matter, as ogryn, I find assail sparkies annoying for stealing my picks, I...
respectable
upper sun
i had one psyker in all my playtime cancel a brainburst because i was zealot charging at a target
where ever you are 🫡
dusty ferry
For brain burst, did you know I'd you start charging it you can kill enemies even after they move to cover?
zinc sphinx
I would like to know choice weapons to go for for n AOE build
upper sun
trauma and purge
zinc sphinx
For brain burst, did you know I'd you start charging it you can kill enemies eve...
ya, it's real neat when the mauler on patrol walks around a corner
dusty ferry
No escape from sparky!
What staffs do you like?
Oh wait do you how many there are?
zinc sphinx
4 I think
2 have the charge smitey thing and then the void does a charge up shot, then I'm guessing the last does the flamethrower thing
zinc sphinx
I mean with it's right click thing
upper sun
purge is fire
surge is the single target smite
void is the nuke projectile
truama is the aoe nuke
dusty ferry
Trauma= AOE explosion
Purgatus= Blue fire
Void= Big ball of destruction
Surge= single target electric
upper sun
ye purge has the fart cloud on rmb
dusty ferry
purge is fire
surge is the single target smite
void is the nuke projectile
tr...
damn
to slow😅
btw a lot of then are pretty good at stunning
Trauma will knock over ANYTHING other than a boss on the first hit
upper sun
perfectly balanced
actually if anything its a little bit underpowered
actually very weak pls buff
dusty ferry
Same for the big ball
and left click fire stuns too I think
but not crushers?
not sure
zinc sphinx
I like void pretty well, I'll need to check tauma again
dusty ferry
it's damage vs range
upper sun
trauma is hard to roll
dusty ferry
ye on low lv it feels like it does nothing
zinc sphinx
I'll keep that in mind when I'm rolling for them
dusty ferry
btw I understand wanting to stick with staffs at first but gun psyker can be very fun later on!
zinc sphinx
btw I understand wanting to stick with staffs at first but gun psyker can be ver...
but sparky!!!!!!!
I WANNA BE A DELIRIOUS SPACE WIZARD
upper sun
I'll keep that in mind when I'm rolling for them
the psyker guide has more in detail info
dusty ferry
but sparky!!!!!!!
why not be a space wizard,
WITH A GUN
but yeah go staff np
they are really cool
Also don't forget the force sword!
zinc sphinx
why not be a space wizard,
WITH A GUN
PLUS GUN PSYKER INHALES AMMO
dusty ferry
MAGIC KNIFE
dusty ferry
PLUS GUN PSYKER INHALES AMMO
true
zinc sphinx
PLENTY OF TIMES WHEN SPARKIE TAKE OGRYN'S AMMO
dusty ferry
psyker has inherent utilitie in that he requires no ammo or grenades
Abd then other (like ogryns) cam have more ammo
But it's fun to switch it up every now and then
dusty ferry
PLENTY OF TIMES WHEN SPARKIE TAKE OGRYN'S AMMO
In case that was me, my apologies
I was trying to see how many critics I can deal in 20 sec
zinc sphinx
In case that was me, my apologies <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
it's fine if you give extra rashuns
zinc sphinx
why not be a space wizard,
WITH A GUN
plus I'd literally end up being Olba from the hit anime "Devil is a Part Timer"
ornate hamlet
bro doin teh spinny
zinc sphinx
bro doin teh spinny
spinnin outta joy
ornate hamlet
I'd be outta joy too if I lived there
zinc sphinx
am happy now, sparky good tah ogryn
hearty dagger
Man it's so funny that SM2 dropped a roadmap before the game
Definitely inspires confidence
zinc sphinx
Man it's so funny that SM2 dropped a roadmap *before* the game
gud stuff it is
seems me hundred I dropped on it won't be a waste
hearty dagger
Yeah but it kinda says "We don't feel confident about our game on release" to me
Usually you drop a roadmap on release or post-launch
2 weeks before launch is kinda odd
Plus two of the roadmap contents are 2 cosmetic DLCs
zinc sphinx
meh, least they're showing us the plan before they go with it
hearty dagger
I mean, fair
But honestly i'm still extremely underwhelmed
No Librarian class, Storm Bolter is gone for some reason
zinc sphinx
there's primarus librarians?
hearty dagger
And all of the base armor is ultramarine themed so unless they end up dropping some free armor it really feels like "oooooohhh you should buy cosmetic paaaaack"
hearty dagger
there's primarus librarians?
I don't exactly know primaris marines that well, but to be fair they could just do it or have a firstborn marine as a class
It could even serve as the balancing
zinc sphinx
guess there is
hearty dagger
Yeah sure you're a Librarian but you don't have the physical superiority of a primaris
Huh
Then that just pisses me off even more
zinc sphinx
the leader of the blue berry's as the main dude lands said he could only spare 3 marines
I'd say he needs the librarians on the main front
hearty dagger
In-game reasoning is decent i guess
But out-of-game reasoning is still annoying considering how many of the classes just feel extremely basic.
zinc sphinx
still, then there's balanceing
hearty dagger
You have light stealth sniper marine, light melee marine with a grappling hook, light versatile marine, heavy weapons guy, heavy jump pack melee marine, heavy shield marine
Plus, we have confirmation that there's chaos cult/rubric marines, yeah?
zinc sphinx
do you grasp how strong a single librarian is?
hearty dagger
You make a good point.
zinc sphinx
just remember this is a psyker turned into A SPACE MARINE PRIMARUS
hearty dagger
But i would like to raise the point of the marines in SM2 not being exactly lore compliant.
They are a lot slower
Which is also annoying because we've been spoiled by Astartes
Plus you also have a lore reason to nerf them (Tyranid Warp Shadow thing)
Probably not exactly good reasoning but still a plausible one
zinc sphinx
that would inadvertainly mean the tho9usand suns on the planet should be a pile of scrap as soon as the hive comes
though my grasp on chaos legions is not fantastic
hearty dagger
Honestly when you do say that
How the hell do we have thousand sons and tyranids at the same time?
zinc sphinx
I honestly have no clue
hearty dagger
Speaking of.
I watched the previews and those don't exactly inspire confidence either
Assuming launch is 3 tyranid missions and 3 TS missions in PvE
2 of the tyranid missions are ridiculously similar (Go, get X, blow up X but hold out first to get Tyranids into position) except one of them has a hive tyrant boss fight at the end
Which is just a 10 minute long "shoot it until it dies"
zinc sphinx
That's how it was in Space marine one, lol
zinc sphinx
I haven't really played with friends in Space Marine, but I hope to be able to in the sequal
hearty dagger
Honestly i want to like it
But the more i look at it the more i think "This is literally just world war Z but space marines."
zinc sphinx
I do too, I'm not gonna say it's good out the gate, that would just be idiotic
hearty dagger
Like even the way the tyranids pile up to climb a high wall
Plus it pisses me off to no end that we can't customize our marines' personality.
Since i don't want a posh, noble bulwark standard bearer
I want lore accurate roman standard bearer
zinc sphinx
Primarus, from what I understand, are brainwashed to the point of barely showing any human emotion
Guilliman literally praising one for being more humane than his comrades
hearty dagger
Yeah no the marines we get definitely have some emotion
Like the Vanguard being all bloodthirsty
zinc sphinx
I didn't say they don't have any
hearty dagger
The heavy is probably the most non-emotive one
Fair
Anyway though it really is annoying that classes are less classes and straight up characters.
zinc sphinx
I'd think of it more like TF2
hearty dagger
Same thing on the Chaos end too
zinc sphinx
in the character aspect anyway
hearty dagger
You can't have an Alpha Legion vanguard or duelist, only a sniper
Which i kinda get
But that doesn't change the fact that i am still very annoyed about it.
Since they are my favorite loyalist legion.
zinc sphinx
all I can say, soon as that game pops open, I'm making my marine look like a Minotaur
hearty dagger
Honestly i don't really dig the minotaurs
hearty dagger
I don't think even the Alpha Legion knows what side they're on
zinc sphinx
ikr?
zinc sphinx
they're flying by the seat of their pants and the imperium doesn't know that
it's honestly comical
hearty dagger
Honestly it's hilarious how you can make your loyalist marine have alpha legion emblems and colors
But can't change their personality or have non-ultramarine looking armor
zinc sphinx
But can't change their personality or have non-ultramarine looking armor
I'd say minotaurs are close enough in asthetics at least
hearty dagger
To be fair they're both roman.
zinc sphinx
minotaurs are more greek, lol
hearty dagger
It's just that minotaurs are more greek/spartan
Yeah
To be fair the romans/greeks were really similar.
zinc sphinx
that's why I love their style
zinc sphinx
To be fair the romans/greeks *were* really similar.
except one stole the other's mythose with different names
hearty dagger
Yeah
ornate hamlet
They all wear sandals and skirts
hearty dagger
Honestly, the only way i'll buy it is if we get better armor customization.
I want to be the most obvious Alpha Legion marine possible
zinc sphinx
LOL
hearty dagger
Like "Oh yeah, him? He thinks his holo-cloak is still up. We just don't tell him since he's less chaos corrupted than some of our own guys."
zinc sphinx
I AM ALPHERIOUUUUUUUSSSS! - brother Larry charging into a warband of orks
hearty dagger
Lmao
zinc sphinx
I couldnt think of a roman esque enough name
hearty dagger
Another thing i really don't dig is the dialogue too.
Like holy shit, i get you're all ultramarines but STOP GLAZING EACH OTHER.
So much of the inter-squad banter is just mindlessly praising each other.
zinc sphinx
you've been spoiled by darktide's incessent squablings, lol
hearty dagger
I mean, fair but goddamn
At least have some differing opinions on something
Or talk about something other than each other
zinc sphinx
the rudest ultramarine probably told another his boot was a little scuffed, lol
hearty dagger
No wonder greek/roman marines don't care about much other than big muscular ultra-men but jesus
zinc sphinx
zinc sphinx
No wonder greek/roman marines don't care about much other than big muscular ultr...
I mean, the minotaurs only care about the fossils that are the high lords of terra
hearty dagger
True
But like, i have not heard any sort of banter dialogue in the previews i watched that wasn't "öööö bröther your battle-awareness is amazing" or "öööö bröther you're leadership material i will tell the captain to promote you"
zinc sphinx
another reason I like them is because they're the closest thing to the Savlar Chemdogs in space marine form
hearty dagger
Marines Malevolent
Then again
The rudest chem dog is probably still nicer than the gentlest marine malevolent
zinc sphinx
I have no clue what marine malevolent is
hearty dagger
Sa'kan ended up beating the shit out of one of their captains or their straight up chapter master at some point
Since they killed a shit ton of refugees.
And i think the Astral Lions chapter straight up friendly fired them into oblivion
zinc sphinx
so ik sa'kan, but who got shot out? the C.O. or Sa'kan?
half turtle
im so salty i just wiped hab dreyko because i didn't know how the new end puzzle worked
why the fuck did they change it
hearty dagger
so ik sa'kan, but who got shot out? the C.O. or Sa'kan?
CO
half turtle
to like a completely new kind of puzzle
why not just use the stupid letter matching puzzle
zinc sphinx
valid reason then
hearty dagger
Like
The only reason MM aren't marked as renegade
Is because they're basically riding the border of their collateral damage and absolute disregard for human life being justified by their effectiveness
zinc sphinx
so the minotaurs but mug less?
zinc sphinx
idk how the hell you diregard human life more than the minotaurs
hearty dagger
With Minotaurs you tell them to kill someone and they kill their entire family
Marines Malevolent will wipe out their zip code and the next 5 zip codes over just for kicks
zinc sphinx
AL look like inverted smerfs
hearty dagger
They straight up just have a significantly higher ratio of devastator marines and their entire battle doctrine is "If that direction exists, keep firing"
arctic shard
Most sane psyker be like:
Glad none of it is real 🤷🏿♂️
zinc sphinx
They straight up just have a significantly higher ratio of devastator marines an...
sounds like krieg handleing anything to do with heresy
hearty dagger
AL look like inverted smerfs
They commit so much actual accidental collateral that Lord Solar Leontus describes them as "Totally unsuitable as fire support for other elements"
More or less
zinc sphinx
ah, so they're like skaven range units?
hearty dagger
Yeah
zinc sphinx
kill anything infront and don't care if you hit a friendly
hearty dagger
Honestly i have to respect the ideology of "Screw honorable melee our opponents don't deserve it"
zinc sphinx
THEN I LIKE THEM, but I dispise their color scheme
hearty dagger
Look on the bright side of things.
You won't have to buy armor packs since they look similar to ultramarines
zinc sphinx
THERE IS ONLY BRIGHTNESS HERE
zinc sphinx
some say you can see the astral lions coming from a light year away
minis look respecable tho
little chungus marine
hearty dagger
Me omw to have an Alpha Leigon Bulwark and an Astral Lions Vanguard just for the memes
If i do buy the game that is
zinc sphinx
I shall be the brightest thing on the battlefield
zinc sphinx
the only way to stop my glimmer is the blood of the bugs
not a lot of art made for the lions, but what there is is fantastic
hearty dagger
Yeah
Honestly considering that they're adding cosmetic armor customization to Helldivers 2, i might as well just keep on being solar auxilia
(By that i mean you can change the colors)
zinc sphinx
neat
hearty dagger
To be fair i feel like a fixed up HD2 is probably going to be more fun than SM2.
zinc sphinx
maybe, but I'm not terribly fond of extraction shooters
hearty dagger
To be fair, HD2 extraction is completely optional.
If you "fail" the mission after completing the objective, you still win
zinc sphinx
they have their charm, but I just prefer open world games
zinc sphinx
If you "fail" the mission after completing the objective, you still win
I've playd for a decent chunk
hearty dagger
To each their own i guess, to me open world games just feel boring.
There's usually too much open and not enough world
zinc sphinx
it's not gonna be my fav game, but I can recognize it's at least a good game all things considerd
zinc sphinx
To each their own i guess, to me open world games just feel boring.
they can if the devs design the world wrong
hearty dagger
Eh, honestly i feel like SM2 is definitely going to be a bit underwhelming.
zinc sphinx
I'll stand by it, for my wallet's sake at least, lol
hearty dagger
Lmao
Like why the hell do we have a bolt carbine with a pistol foregrip
But not a goddamn storm bolter?
zinc sphinx
idk man, is weird
hearty dagger
Yeah
My main gripe is unlike how SM1 did it, there's too many guns that just do the same thing compared to the more funky weird guns
zinc sphinx
I prefer the assult cannons anyway, I like brrrrt over chunk chunk chunk
hearty dagger
Like i never really used the Vengeance Launcher
But it was still an interesting weapon
Now we just have 6 different varieties of full auto bolter
zinc sphinx
I'd say it's for the more picky people
hearty dagger
I guess
zinc sphinx
long as it can blast a heratic I don't mind much
hearty dagger
Not gonna lie though
I really don't get why the bolt pistol and heavy bolt pistol exist.
When the heavy one has the same RoF and reload as the bolt pistol
Except the bolt pistol feels way weaker
Also another thing that pissed me off (unrelated)
One of the youtubers for SM2 found a secret
And then immediately made a video about it showing the entire thing like "Come on guys mail them this code and get the mystery prize"
Yeah thanks fucko you ruined it
hearty dagger
Like the only way it's not a complete dick move
Is if Focus realized literally no one found it and release is coming up
So they said "Ok make this public knowledge"
Like, holy shit man
It's called a fucking secret for a reason
Honestly i feel like the right thing to do in that scenario is just shut it down completely
You ruin a thoughtfully made secret thing? Well fuck you now you're gonna have an entire horde of people screaming at you.
zinc sphinx
Another argument people will probably make about all the cosmetics and stuff is that the majority of cosmetics will be free and can be earned, I don't understand the argument, but I bet fanboys will spout that like Gospel
lilac sigil
Another argument people will probably make about all the cosmetics and stuff is ...
Well sure, but I don't even need to know what game you're talking about to wonder aloud, "what's the argument AGAINST doing things that way?" Good games deserve ongoing development, and players have historically leaned towards paying more when things are done the way you describe (paid cosmetics) than subscription models. Although you could argue that the expansion pack model (Stellaris DLC) works well too.
To be clear: if a B2P game launches with insufficient gameplay and content (including unpaid cosmetics) to feel like you got your money's worth, then that's worth criticizing on its own. But that's a very separate issue from paid cosmetics to me.
zinc sphinx
Well sure, but I don't even need to know what game you're talking about to wonde...
I'm not the one making the argument, I'm just saying diehard fans are most likely with there being cosmetics behind a paywall we are talking about space marine 2
rotund fable
Got this as a mission reward, I don't normally use bolt pistol, so, any suggestions for changes? (I assume the blessing lineup is fine as is and it's just the perks that need changing... deadly accurate + surgical seems good, but I dont use the bolt pistol too much)
halcyon gust
No idea how to build a Bolt pistol for Pyskers
lavish glade
Mid for pysker imo
Shame as its nearly perfect aswell ( i prefer puncture over deadly accurate)
If you want to try it tho get flak and maniac perk
rotund fable
I wonder if fatshark will ever allow us to move weapons from one operative to another... I got a few really good CIAG's on my psyker that I would rather have on my veteran
pine tundra
uhh
I was gonna ask if this is worth re-rolling but I just cant bring myself to wipe Run n Gun like that haha
rotund fable
My honest opinion: Run n Gun isnt all that bad on purgatus... you can become a flaming battering ram to save your ogryn teamate who didnt realize how low he actually was and stupidly charged into a fight he didnt have the health to take.
which has happened to me more than once...
zinc sphinx
My honest opinion: Run n Gun isnt all that bad on purgatus... you can become a f...
OGRYN MENT TO PROTECT TINIES, NOT OTHER WAY ROUND
rotund fable
OGRYN MENT TO PROTECT TINIES, NOT OTHER WAY ROUND
Ogryn forgot to heal after he 1v1'd a nurgle blessed plague ogryn...
zinc sphinx
Ogryn forgot to heal after he 1v1'd a nurgle blessed plague ogryn...
Ogryn can still fight, not weak as tinies think
personally got over 500 hp
rotund fable
The Ogryn was on less than half a wound... and had a wound curio
rotund fable
Not sure what their other curios were, but i know they had 1 wound curio
zinc sphinx
toughness good fer ranged gitz and mah helth gud fer slashin hoards
rotund fable
since they had 4 wounds on auric malestrom
zinc sphinx
but wounds just ain't needed on ogryn, specially on that difficulty
halcyon gust
Ogryns have 3 wounds. they don't need more
zinc sphinx
higher ya go the more hp to take the brunt of tha horde
queen trout
Woundgryn gameplay
rotund fable
I am not defending their choice, just saying what they had. they were a random
zinc sphinx
I think most wounds I seen on ogryn was 5
zinc sphinx
I am not defending their choice, just saying what they had. they were a random
hard to muck ogryn up, donno how, but they did
not completly
but just to throw off their fightin
like said, toughness an HP for ogryns are a swell help
I prefer hp cus the punies like tah get close lots tha time
rotund fable
hard to muck ogryn up, donno how, but they did
I mean... the guy successfully 1v1'd a nurgle blessed plague ogryn while the 2 knife zealots were dealing with a weakened chaos spawn and i had to solo-kill a wave of ragers... so I'm not going to critisize them.
if anything i would critisize the duo of knife zealots that took what felt like almost 2 minutes to take down a weakened chaos spawn
round coyote
hard to muck ogryn up, donno how, but they did
I’d say kinda not true
zinc sphinx
I mean... the guy successfully 1v1'd a nurgle blessed plague ogryn while the 2 k...
just not how i'd go bout it on the higher 'sall
round coyote
Pretty easy to suck as Ogryn
A lot of people don’t think about dodging and sliding, especially if they have shield
rotund fable
Pretty easy to suck as Ogryn
I feel personally called out...
zinc sphinx
guess I ain't got much to go off, I don't play much auric, let alone maelstrom
round coyote
I feel personally called out...
BE BETTER THEN PAL
I haven’t been playing as much auric since the event. It’s been nice to take the break. I find the worst players in auric.
rotund fable
I am not very good at ogryn tbh... only ogryn build i've got is a shield-bro with rumbler that taunts and tosses rock
round coyote
I am not very good at ogryn tbh... only ogryn build i've got is a shield-bro wit...
Nothin wrong with havin a good time pal, you can always come to the best chat on the discord if you need help
rotund fable
I do need to get some of the ogryn character penances still...
round coyote
Most of them are ez pz
Only ones that like actually require some planning are Gone Bowling and Be Your Best
halcyon gust
I think most wounds I seen on ogryn was 5
I seen 6 wound Ogryns before
round coyote
I seen 6 wound Ogryns before
Disgusting
Ogryn already gets an extra wound, there is no reason on this planet to run more
rotund fable
I can totally understand how max wound zealot is meta (My main zealot build is martyrdom hammer)... but they other two are new to me.
you would think "nearly 300 toughness veteran" would be the meta...
halcyon gust
These people are seeing into the future
upper sun
300 toughness... zero hp
halcyon gust
300 toughness... zero hp
Don't need to worry about HP behind this big wall of Toug--- Dies to a silent Burster
rotund fable
Don't need to worry about HP behind this big wall of Toug--- *Dies to a silent B...
lives because the 300 toughness veteran spams shout on cooldown
upper sun
Don't need to worry about HP behind this big wall of Toug--- *Dies to a silent B...
only takes 1 hp damage then dies to a poxwalker because no ironwill*