psyker-class

[wind spruce]

So is deimos

[hearty dagger]

Indignatus Shockmaul gaming

[wind spruce]

It absolutely does

[plucky flax]

Too many nerf it's bad now. Bring back handcannon assail. 😦

[hearty dagger]

Assail can still absolutely shred

[wind spruce]

RIP 😦

[potent echo]

people want assail to oneshot crusher before they use it

[wind spruce]

It only oneshots gunners!? SMH, so weak

[near wyvern]

Bring back assail weaving FFS

[radiant frigate]

i would like it if assail was cool

[hearty dagger]

Reminds me of that one psyker i saw honestly

[halcyon gust]

Assail just overlaps where either my Melee or Voidstrike can handle

[radiant frigate]

but we do not have that luxury

[plucky flax]

Is it UnsanctionedPsyker? I heard he's the best psyker in game top 1% for sure.

[potent echo]

desert map begs to differ

[hearty dagger]

Surged the horde, assailed the crushers and never in his mind so much as even considered pulling out his melee

[wind spruce]

The new assail weaving is true aim stacking

[near wyvern]

Ehh

[hearty dagger]

Never saw him

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQO85k

Not ehhh

[plucky flax]

Damn he lied to me.

UnsanctionedLiar.

[hearty dagger]

Anyway though

[near wyvern]

Want something cool?
Get a fridge!

Want something hot?
Buy an oven!

[hearty dagger]

Still hilarious how some siblings when faced with a multiple choice moment

[narrow herald]

I don't see what this video is supposed to tell me

[hearty dagger]

Will decide to do everything wrong

[near wyvern]

Still ehh

[wind spruce]

Not remotely ehh

Bonkers good.

[halcyon gust]

Doesn't look like Assail did much at all

Outside of maybe softening some enemies up for Creeping flames to finish off

[wind spruce]

It procced true aim/surge twice, that's all I'm showing in that clip

[narrow herald]

I get switching between the 2 gives you the flexability to deal with slightly gapped targets.

But I could have just kept firing the void and not fight the peril edging 🤷

[hearty dagger]

I have killstealed myself with assail multiple times

[wind spruce]

It's not a general demo of assail

[near wyvern]

Too much effort when you could just edge with staff and nexus

[wind spruce]

Skill issue

Also

Por que no los dos

[near wyvern]

And the reduction in staff fire rate is very debatable if you actually gain any benefit from deliberately stacking true aim

[narrow herald]

Is it "skill issue" that I am using peril for my Assail over my Void? 🤔

[wind spruce]

This is just a narrow example. I'm not suggesting constantly using assail to purposefully get to full true aim stacks. Assail just naturally throughout the mission let's you proc true aim a shitload more than normal

[hearty dagger]

You're playing darktide. No matter what you have a skill issue according to someone

[wind spruce]

That's the Skill Achievement

[radiant frigate]

i think assail interferes with true aim more than I'd like

by consuming it

[wind spruce]

Nah, absolutely not

It generates more than it consumes

[narrow herald]

Wait why am I even fighting this in the first place, I hate void

[wind spruce]

1/5 chance of it consuming true aim, and it can proc up to three stacks per throw

[narrow herald]

I'm a Purge only user

😔

[hearty dagger]

For example according to someone you have a skill issue for not running venting/smite, to someone you have a skill issue for not just running CIAG, etc.

At this point i hope ciag gunker gets nerfed just so i can hear those "jUsT rUn CiAg" losers cry

[wind spruce]

Running talents is a skill issue

[upper galleon]

Nah im straight up assail is so good when trash shooters and gunners are spread out

It pairs right into the gap between void and melee

[halcyon gust]

I use all 4 of the staffs, but I enjoy my Void a lot

[narrow herald]

I mean, wasn't the top Games Lantern Build for a long time was a "bubble smite void support build"?

🤢

[wind spruce]

Exactly. Thinking it doesn't work with void is just... kinda yikes

[hearty dagger]

CIAG mfs when they see any sort of build diversity that is not centered entirely around hoovering all of the ammo the team has and maybe wiping out a boss in 2 mags

[wind spruce]

No surge makes me sad

[mental grail]

I'll just run accatran or graia 🤷

[upper galleon]

Frontpage of zealot builds is the “non autistic zealot build”

[halcyon gust]

Surge just makes it feel really clunky for me

[mental grail]

hoovering is a way of life atp

[upper galleon]

How

[narrow herald]

Lmao "support psyker" gets me every time

[hearty dagger]

You disgust me.

[wind spruce]

Getting your builds from games lantern is even worse than getting your builds from reddit

[upper galleon]

Either you take nexus and it surges half the time or you take true aim and it surges half the time

[hearty dagger]

God, fucking online builds are always wack no matter what game you play

[wind spruce]

"Support psyker" translation: I have no idea how Darktide works

[hearty dagger]

For example, in fucking Warframe it's always subsumed Gloom and ability strength

[halcyon gust]

Makes the charge time feel really slow for me, but maybe could be I'm so used to max stack flurry where I can fire off more orbs that it kinda balances out not having surge

[wind spruce]

Try surge & flurry

It's a game changer

[hearty dagger]

Just run surge and flurry 5head

[stuck sinew]

Nothing supports the team like making everything dead

[narrow herald]

Like I use this when I play psyker: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c397648-c43f-404d-85e1-95dd3e9a6fba/pyro-3?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[hearty dagger]

The best support player in existence is a support player that doesn't make you pull your hair out

[narrow herald]

People will think this is "support" because I use bubble 😔

[wind spruce]

They can support me by alt-f4ing

[potent echo]

bubble purg

[hearty dagger]

For example, i play with a smiteker and suddenly my headshot DD build eats ass because they just go "hurr durr i staggur"

[potent echo]

where the fire

[upper galleon]

Surge flurry with true aim is the best raw dps build for it

Add in destiny keystone and you hit like a truck

[halcyon gust]

That is gonna probably wait until crafting rework

Not gonna bother attempting to craft more stuff till then

[wind spruce]

You don't have surge?

[halcyon gust]

I do have Surge

[wind spruce]

You can just whack it on your current void

[halcyon gust]

I have most of the staff blessings

Because my build works for me and if it ain't broke. Don't fucking fix it

[potent echo]

trying to hit headshots against a smited bulwark from an angle

[upper galleon]

Live love lacerate

[narrow herald]

Surge is like the staff that works best with absolutely no investment 💀

[wind spruce]

Then why mention the crafting update?

[upper galleon]

I dont see how you would break your build

Surge is just that good

[wind spruce]

Also iteration is fun

[upper galleon]

If you are going flurry nexus imo the crit is wasted on base void staff

[narrow herald]

I don't like vent on purge

I know, it doesn't make sense because I use vent on literally every other build 😔

It also gives you and extra point because you don't need to go left on the tree

[upper galleon]

Double critical balls vs 1 critical ball is massive

[wind spruce]

The crit let's you hit some breakpoints and procs mettle/perfect timing

[potent echo]

purg vent covers its ranged weakness easily

[narrow herald]

I don't care about the peril Gen node

[wind spruce]

But yeah it's weird not to run surge

[potent echo]

surge needs vent to do anything lol

[narrow herald]

On purge

[potent echo]

trauma can go shield with some EP BB fun

[narrow herald]

My BB is the ranged solution

[near wyvern]

Not really but it is good to take it for the horde clear.

[potent echo]

i wanted to say old psyker but old psyker had creeping

would you take like

surge shield

or surge GAZE

guh

the humanity

[wind spruce]

I'm sure the bubble bois are all running illisi, they'll be fine with hordes 🥴

[potent echo]

yea if they remember to use it

surge shield andy's still be surging poxwalker hordes

support psyker

[wind spruce]

gets bonked by poxwalkers with staff out

"SUCH BULLSHIT"

[narrow herald]

Now Surge Shield with fully upgraded smite is actually trolling

[wind spruce]

Not running this build for every single ranged weapon is the real troll

[potent echo]

nah needs smite, elite damage aura, dome and WC

also take out PC, waste of points

[narrow herald]

DD + Surge =

[near wyvern]

Not really. As an example Bolt Pistol is shit with DD and enjoys a lot more from warp battery as it meets very good body shot breakpoints as well.

[wind spruce]

I'm so bad at this game

[wind spruce]

Homie, it's not garbage with DD. Your take on this is super weird.

[potent echo]

im a cheater so i only use puncture assail DD

[narrow herald]

Yoo let me run that on my Trauma 😎👌

[upper sun]

just admit that boltpistol is shit in general

[wind spruce]

It's like one breakpoint you can't hit with bistol DD

And it's almost never relevant

[near wyvern]

It's not shit

[upper sun]

you're litearlly coping because you like it

[potent echo]

i was so hyped for another anti-cara psyker gun

but bistol vs crushers is so damn 😔

[jovial juniper]

Oh crap, that's me

[restive ice]

same

[potent echo]

you gonna say sike and its a melee gaze build or smth

[upper galleon]

Imo bistol is bad and at least needs some qol to be considered mid

[upper sun]

bolt pistol needs like 20 damage to each stat

[jovial juniper]

[upper galleon]

Give it 1-2 cleave and fix that atrocious ads and tone down the recoil

[wind spruce]

Until they fix the pre-fire sway it's dumpster fire

And even then it needs the recoil fixed

[narrow herald]

OK but everyone, we need to address the elephant in the room:

Tanner Gun Psyker build

[latent mauve]

No no no no no

[potent echo]

idk how bad can a gun psyker build be

[wind spruce]

Tanners gun psyker build is fine, other than not taking perilous

[latent mauve]

No Tanner posting

[potent echo]

not perilous

mmm good start

[upper sun]

I love tanner posting

[upper galleon]

I hate tanner posting

[upper sun]

"ummmm holy rev is bad because you shouldnt go down1!!!
marty is bad because wounds reduce the effectivenes of stims""

WELL TANNER WHICH IS IT?

[upper galleon]

Whattt

[jovial juniper]

[upper galleon]

The stims one?

[upper sun]

Is planning for failure bad or good?

[upper galleon]

Green stim is whatever is greater

[restive ice]

tanner tuesday came early

[wind spruce]

I kinda like how angry the dude is though

[upper sun]

if you have more wounds u get less hp from stims

[upper galleon]

No?

[upper sun]

yes

[upper galleon]

You get whatever is higher

[wind spruce]

He's very young and clearly deeply unhappy, so I have a soft spot for him

[upper sun]

yes so if you no extra wounds you get more heal

[upper galleon]

And green stim is good on martyrdom since it purges a ton of corruption without capping out your hp

[narrow herald]

Tanner also did this banger:

[potent echo]

yea if you have more wounds you get less heal

[upper galleon]

People respect this person

[narrow herald]

I'm not a doctor

[potent echo]

oh he also hates helldivers

here i thought he was an independent thinker

[narrow herald]

But I think this kid has a Vitimin D deficiency ☠️

[upper galleon]

Chip damage is unavoidable

[upper sun]

ye i know

[upper galleon]

Unless you play like a inhuman god zealot is going to take damage

[upper sun]

well you can reduce is the better you are

but dying to a random bullet when you're at 1hp cant be helped sometimes

[upper galleon]

Greenstim doesn’t provide as much raw healing for martyrdom but

[upper sun]

im not disagreeing

im saying tanner is being a hypocrite

[potent echo]

why would you greenstim on martyr ew

[upper galleon]

Because you can eat a shit ton of corruption and damage with it

[upper sun]

because your teammate blew up 7 poxbursters at you

[upper galleon]

Martyrdoms biggest weakness is if you get corrupted, forcing you to use a medstation

[restive ice]

because i want to deny it from my teammates

[broken carbon]

yes, with a default of 2 wounds you heal 50% health and corruption, and with more than 4 wounds you will heal 25% health/ corruption

[upper sun]

ive unironically had holy rev pop from poxgas ticks

[upper galleon]

Green stims will purge most of your corruption without capping it out

[wind spruce]

Dude clearly has a host of genuine mental health issues. I genuinely hope he'll sort himself out as he grows up. Kinda urks me he gets so much vitriol but thats gamerZ for you

[potent echo]

i think hes an exception, hopefully

[broken carbon]

stupid woke gen z

[restive ice]

le wokisme

[upper galleon]

Didn’t tanner leak revenge pron of an ex?

[potent echo]

wow thats a whole new angle

[broken carbon]

wouldn’t shock me

[narrow herald]

He just needs to get off 4chan 😔

[upper galleon]

Or was that another shitty dt youtuber

[wind spruce]

I wish I was young enough to be gen z 🥲

[wind spruce]

Was probably realasianrobot

[narrow herald]

Wtf is even going on? 💀

[upper sun]

realasian was just doing it for the views

which is very ironic because who watches DT

[wind spruce]

Psychosis

[wind spruce]

Ik but he's an asshole so fuck him

[patent wing]

when i started playing i was watching a few videos from him

[upper sun]

s-same 😭

[patent wing]

idk yt algo didnt gave me chocoB

[wind spruce]

Me too, but I hated him immediately

[narrow herald]

???????

[wind spruce]

He's just so fucking annoying

[potent echo]

none , their to bussy

[narrow herald]

Isn't Tanner trans or non binary? 🤔

[upper galleon]

Lmao no

[upper galleon]

Karlach hater

[jovial juniper]

Sheesh fr fr straight up bussing

[narrow herald]

He calls himself a femboy a lot so

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/karlach-no-shake-head-shake-bg3-gif-2634164810006805211

[upper galleon]

The two paths of a femboy

[restive ice]

he aint my mans

[upper galleon]

Amen

[wind spruce]

Femboy doesn't mean trans or non binary lol

[potent echo]

fembussy

[upper galleon]

Femboys choosing to be chill asf or the most reactionary person you know

[wind spruce]

Most coherent argument you'll get from a Trump voter

[upper galleon]

I like the jd couch and the weird angle, especially when they decided to respond with uhh, horse liquids

Not beating the weird allegations

[wind spruce]

Jd is pure weird

[patent wing]

could u maybe stop the politics talk here :D

[wind spruce]

Couldn't believe it when I realised that this Jd Vance was the hillbilly elegy guy 💀

[wind spruce]

This is what happens when people are mean to Tanner

[narrow herald]

Look at all this chaos I created just by mentioning his name

[late sapphire]

I think tanner should try getting laid even once

[wind spruce]

🥱

[narrow herald]

This is all I want, why is it soo difficult 😔

[upper sun]

two weeks after crafting update

[narrow herald]

Tru 😔

Or after u get your CS major

[broken carbon]

racism or transgender

[upper sun]

right after the admech class update

[upper galleon]

Based

[narrow herald]

It's Canon everyone

We can all go home

[upper sun]

i dont even know anymore

[upper galleon]

Woke 40k be like

Transhumanist mars technocult

Nonbinary ork boyz

[wind spruce]

Psykers lie.

[halcyon gust]

Well a shield doesn't cover a crusher jump scare

[orchid shadow]

Lol, a "fuck this guy in particular" moment.

[wind spruce]

It gets funnier everytime I watch it lmao

[halcyon gust]

Dude is reviv----Welp

[jovial juniper]

Peak Darktide right there

[wind spruce]

It's just a pity they weren't on their last wound

[orchid shadow]

The "Shield is a good idea" voiceline makes it even funnier

[upper sun]

admech is just stupid

[wind spruce]

Yeah lmao

[upper sun]

imagine being so stupid and uneducatable that some engineer 20k years ago tells you you have to do righty tighty lefty loosey or else a god might smite you

THEN everyone around you is so equally stupid they make a religion out of it

[wind spruce]

My car is righty loosey lefty lockey and I get it wrong every single time 😦

[upper sun]

Let me tell you a tale about a great power god called the omnissiah

hell fucking kill you if you forget again

[wind spruce]

Fek

[halcyon gust]

Also got this before that match

[jovial juniper]

At least the mechanicus are good mechanics, right? Right?

[restive ice]

face the wall

[jovial juniper]

I am the fragging wall

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/payday2-the-russian-badger-bulldozer-gif-25839433

[halcyon gust]

I must go now. My people need me

[patent wing]

wen new staff

[lyric burrow]

Somtime in the games lifespan hopefully

Is imagine psyker gets some new exclusive stuff eventually

[halcyon gust]

Best we can do is allow you do funny suicide psyker builds

[remote shadow]

Vigil Station Oblivium skull parkour is driving me insane

[patent wing]

is there a mod that disables the peril sound when coming close to 100

[hearty dagger]

A friend of mine says he's a femboy.

He and i are both incredibly racist

[restive ice]

it’s a setting in the actual game

[hearty dagger]

And somehow he is now in military intelligence.

Or is at chance to

[patent wing]

kek
says alot

[hearty dagger]

It should be in accessibility

[patent wing]

thats just FX

[hearty dagger]

...Including sound effects

Should do that too iirc

[patent wing]

will test

[uneven shard]

Volume waring 🔊

[tulip kettle]

for me, with the peril intensity fx turned all the way down, the only thing that happens at high peril is purple tentacles on the corners of the screen

also, ive said it before, and ill say it again

what is the worst modifier, and why is it nurgles blessing.

slaneesh's blessing when.

[upper sun]

maaan remember 4 updates ago when zealots used to call us freaks?

[tulip kettle]

never seen that one

pretty cool

i have been called a freak many times today

"what if the freak is a danger to us"

[upper sun]

ah ye

thats a static one

believe it or not thats the compliment line

[tulip kettle]

i do believe it lol

im pretty into the voice lines for this game, i loved that piece they did recently

[upper sun]

but yeah i think it would be cool if they gradually changed from zealots being pissy to them being cool to us to give the illusion of time passing and zealots warming up to psykers

[tulip kettle]

was also cool to see how the voice actors look compared to the voices

[halcyon gust]

I won't be surprise this happens as later maps come in

[mossy oyster]

thats only annoying for things like trappers, in my personal experience

pox gas now that one just blows

at all times

lmfao

[tulip kettle]

lol pox gas is the easy mode

pox gas is @we cannot lose this@

[mossy oyster]

must be nice to get teams that actually hold W

[tulip kettle]

i mean,

[mossy oyster]

before the gas traps us

[tulip kettle]

there are like, 40 hp stims in the map

[mossy oyster]

its annoying when people drag ass during pox gas specifically

[tulip kettle]

and coherency is more than the toughness drain from the gas

so like, pox gas sucks because its free nurgles blessing for everything in the gas

but nurgles blessing is what sucks there

[upper sun]

one trapper and its over

[mossy oyster]

literally

lmfao

[halcyon gust]

The worst modifier is Hi Intense hunting ground At least in my experience

[tulip kettle]

lol no

hunting grounds is awesome a spsyker

[mossy oyster]

a shield sibling

🧱

build a wall

[tulip kettle]

oh cool free ability refresh

no matter what build

[upper sun]

hunting grounds in maelstrom is esp bad

[mossy oyster]

that

[tulip kettle]

its especially ez

[mossy oyster]

is when its only bad

[upper sun]

when you get 5 pox bursters in a row

[mossy oyster]

cause it comes at the worst times

lmfao

[upper sun]

i hate it so much

[tulip kettle]

pox waves suck when you dont have smite admittedly

but hound waves die to anything

assail

shriek

smite

gun

staff

anything

[upper sun]

1 heavy attack through a door

[tulip kettle]

its just free ability refresh

[mossy oyster]

me staring at my team fold to waves of mutants/wave of specialists (they spammed 6 pox bursters) and we have a bubble instead of a wall shield

[halcyon gust]

If dogs come in at a good time. Yes

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-nod-yes-shake-head-gif-4802512

[halcyon gust]

But when do dogs ever come in at a good time

[upper sun]

always

[tulip kettle]

honestly dogs is my personal least scary modifier

[halcyon gust]

No they'll charge in while you're juggling a boss and a horde

[upper sun]

90% of the time they wait until we have a a mini break then they give us free cdr/stacks

[mossy oyster]

pro hack

[tulip kettle]

i just had to deal with TWO nurgles blessed plague ogryns

[mossy oyster]

shoving is 360

[tulip kettle]

not weakened ones

[mossy oyster]

dogs arent that scary but yes dogs are annoying as fuck

but thanks to 360 shove leniency its alright

if you have no stam though gotta hold that

[tulip kettle]

but, nurgles blessing + rager patrol = someone is 100% going down

[halcyon gust]

Dogs are always annoying to deal with. Easy to kill, but god damn they pick the most annoying time to be in the back of the mind

[mossy oyster]

trappers/bombers are worse

[tulip kettle]

hmm yes lets make a unit you counter with stagger unstaggerable

[mossy oyster]

disablers are just annoying in general

bombers just fuck up the whole map

and no one likes shooting one until theres already 2 fire bombs/ or 2 tox bombs gone off

for some reason

[halcyon gust]

We love tox bombers being alive longer than .5 seconds

[mossy oyster]

right

[tulip kettle]

i just think, there is only one modifier that i am at the point of just not playing

and its blessing. Nothing ruins the game like it, it just makes so much stuff unplayable

[halcyon gust]

Scab bombers at least do some minor chip damage to the hordes. Tox bombers buff them up

[tulip kettle]

not to mention tox flamers being unstaggerable and extra HP so you dont hit the breakpoints on them

[mossy oyster]

when the trapper or dog get to 1hp

but dont stagger

cause nurgle blessing

and you get trapped or pounced

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-annoyed-spongebob-walking-away-spongebob-meme-spongebob-spongebob-okay-gif-22495700

[tulip kettle]

fully charge trauma at flamers feet > cast > 10% hp gone and still shooting

https://tenor.com/view/guess-ill-die-gif-9704573

[halcyon gust]

You got a few seconds to live

It's not the bugged fire that instantly cooks you in .1 seconds

[tulip kettle]

while stunlocked, sure 😄

argh NO STOP WHY AHHH and im down.

[mossy oyster]

cough thy warp be swift when

[halcyon gust]

Sibling you're not suppose to be stand in the fire to be cooked

[tulip kettle]

yes but we all play this game

and know that sometimes, youre just not alloweed to move

[halcyon gust]

We love the pox walker just being in the perfect spot to eat your dodge

[tulip kettle]

oh you have 3 dodges and full stam but your tough broke from a stray gunner shot? NOPE STUNLOCK UNTIL YOU DIE

[patent wing]

surge smite build so wack

[tulip kettle]

well duh of course

[mossy oyster]

sibling sometimes situational bullshit happens

for example an ogryn or another sibling knocking things down on the floor

[tulip kettle]

how do you deal with snipers and gunners / reapers with surge/smite

[mossy oyster]

and they unintentionally body block you

[patent wing]

idk i have gud blitz cancel tech

my problem is that on nurgle blessed it sucks and it needs to much time to stun enemies with smite

[tulip kettle]

oh quell cancel

[halcyon gust]

Indeed it does. The number of times I been chained disabled

[tulip kettle]

the answer is

[halcyon gust]

Or bonked as soon I been revived by a crusher

[tulip kettle]

do not play psyker on nurgles blessing

[mossy oyster]

me dodging fine and then all of a sudden my dodge is blocked from behind or someone on the floor

[tulip kettle]

or if you will, do not bother with any cc

pure dmg

gunker with assail scriers etc

[halcyon gust]

Because it can happen

[patent wing]

yeah even normal horde mobs need like 2 sec smite to be ccd so bad

[tulip kettle]

yup this is what im bitching about

nurgles blessing just ruins the game

[patent wing]

trauma is best build ingame but trauma gameplay is not that fun imo

[mossy oyster]

smite should literally only be used during fucked up armor spawns

but every soyker here knows this

(or should)

[tulip kettle]

remove the entire stunning and controlling mechanic from the player, very good.

[patent wing]

nah i mean without nurgle blessed, with nurgle its not possible at all

[halcyon gust]

I only really smite big Rager hordes and crusher balls

[tulip kettle]

smite is great for dogs with venting also

dogs come, smite, shriek, go about your day

[mossy oyster]

agreed but assail with perilious combustion

unbeatable

on hunting grounds

[tulip kettle]

also very good

[patent wing]

silo cluster endgame when enemies come from all sides and smite still useless

[tulip kettle]

i use VC maybe 1 in 20 games, but used it one game today

to tell the lvl 550 psyker in my game to stop smiting and do some dmg

were at the point where 3 players had around 200k dmg and smiker had 43k

[patent wing]

purge staff quell cancel lmb spam is so nice but cant play more than 1 game without getting vision tireness

even with orange flame mod

[tulip kettle]

im on the same boat with purgatus

the weapon isnt bad but i wont use it because of the visuals

just reduce the opacity and brightness by like 30%

[late sapphire]

I really like dog waves with pc because i can kill the wave and the resulting soulblaze stacks take out everything in the vicinity

[mossy oyster]

thanks big E

needed that blessing

https://tenor.com/view/poison-lad-yakuza-like-a-dragon-fax-gif-25541138

[tulip kettle]

I love getting an additional 0.3 dps on my perk, thanks hadron!

[mossy oyster]

i just hate having T4s

and a T3

so ugly

[tulip kettle]

heh

[mossy oyster]

both blessings T4 or bust

[tulip kettle]

staff is great

[mossy oyster]

also when itemization drops

[tulip kettle]

but the diff between nexus 3 and 4 is so negligible

[mossy oyster]

scriers double barrel soyker coming near you

[tulip kettle]

have not found a place for the shotgun yet

[mossy oyster]

I was testing this out with full bore and scriers

it could hit a boss for about up to 5-6K and if it had full 5 stacks of death spitter

it can go to around 8-9K

I think if you wanna go for bossing though scattershot/full bore + scrier's would be the way

since it would benefit off single target so much

[mossy oyster]

feels good on zealot

considering hes the actual cqc class

other than that

yeah

[tulip kettle]

but like, when and why

[mossy oyster]

might take some shoehorning in

on a vet or soyker

[tulip kettle]

zealot p much always has horde clear from melee weapon

and if not, you take this, and then get fucked by specials

idk its fun to play mini kickback ogryn, but shotguns arent good, why would this be better

[mossy oyster]

tknives

[tulip kettle]

knives are great until they arent if you know what i mean

[mossy oyster]

uh no

throwing knives are generally good

all the time

[tulip kettle]

i am a tknife/bolter enjoyer

[mossy oyster]

they even pen now

which is fucking

crazy to me

[tulip kettle]

lol like 1 poxwalker

[mossy oyster]

whatever you say man

[late sapphire]

had a knife knife revolver zel on maelstrom struggle to kill hordes

[mossy oyster]

i wonder why he would struggle to kill hordes

[late sapphire]

paired with my ds4 surge bb psyker we had a lot of fun

(the other two were always dead)

[tulip kettle]

thing is knife can do horde clear okay if you buiild it for it

have fun getting carpal tunnel ofc

but idk throwing knives have let me down in trapper / flamer + horde situations one too many times

plus, you know, im bad and cant hit HS when i need to

[late sapphire]

just zarona

[narrow herald]

People complaining in the pre lobby for me having smite:

[tulip kettle]

everyone trashes the smiker until its poxbomber spam

including me.

[mossy oyster]

ah cant relate thats why you think they're good until they're not

having people body block the HS from the Tknife is annoying tho

[queen fog]

its always nice to hear lads complain then u cut to the future and boom the mission's completed?

[mossy oyster]

have had 3 gunners walk in front of me trying to hit a sniper with a Tknife

in the same match

https://tenor.com/view/globelore-roblox-mr-president-get-down-mr-president-globeloremaxxing-gif-15650192559119103621

[tulip kettle]

thats why i play psyker, no need to aim for heads my blitzes do it for me

[narrow herald]

Yes while doing 50% of the teams damage an 80% of the total stagger

[queen fog]

how could we have won if we had a guy yappin bout how much he hates psykers doing psyker things

[narrow herald]

They just jealous

[tulip kettle]

meanwhile me coming on voice chat for the only time today to ask the lvl 550 smiker to try to do more than 10% of the teams total dmg when we reach the halfway point of the mission...

[queen fog]

why would they need to do damage if the rest of the squad's got that department covered

[narrow herald]

"I hate smike psyker"

~Book Loner Zealot with "one shot" build

[tulip kettle]

kek

[halcyon gust]

We love the siblings that join in. Go down within a minute and then get so excited they explode 15 seconds later after being revived

[tulip kettle]

you aint one shotting anything with book on zealot imo

[narrow herald]

Smikers are not the worst when it gets bad

The rare breed I found recently are purge staff Psykers that jsut spam primaries and nothing else

[halcyon gust]

Considering the constant terror in a dark missions. Can't blame them

[narrow herald]

I actually saw a psyker spam purge primaries on a mutant 2 feet away from them

Truly we live in a Psykanium

[tulip kettle]

at least on psyker in lights out you can run a columnus with DD and assail

[narrow herald]

No this was a regular game

[tulip kettle]

and just see everything all the time

[halcyon gust]

I found myself using the primary fire on Purge a lot more than usual just to see what is in fron---Oh shit is that a crusher ball

Made annoying the terror missions are on the missions I need to progress with pens

[narrow herald]

It's pretty funny to spam primaries on ragers, they just get stun locked

And me thinking about the bass boost meme while doing it makes me loose my mind 💀

[halcyon gust]

I generally use the Primary purge on ragers and Pox bursters

[narrow herald]

Sheeshsheeshsheesh

[halcyon gust]

Until the vet one taps it in my face

[narrow herald]

Just putting my hand in front of them and going SHEESH

[mossy oyster]

a soyker's favorite modifier

[narrow herald]

Soyker 😔

[halcyon gust]

Should add in Mutie horde and Hunting ground

[mossy oyster]

mutie horde and hunting ground when I go wall

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-wall-harry-potter-hit-wall-harry-potter-train-station-gif-22382683

[halcyon gust]

Pox hounds casually bullshiting through it because of course they can

[mossy oyster]

im running wall assail

wouldnt matter either

but yea they do that

same with muties getting stuck on it once

then going thru it

[halcyon gust]

If there is a will. There is a way. Pox hounds will bullshit

[mossy oyster]

but they only need to stagger once and hopefully the team is competent enough to kill

[halcyon gust]

Then again

[mossy oyster]

youve got like 3-4 options to cover you even if they jump through walls

[halcyon gust]

Probably bad luck with Fat shark hitting a hit

I generally run the shield dome over the wall

[mossy oyster]

i started with dome

went to wall

[lyric burrow]

Hounds commit unspeakable crimes

[mossy oyster]

actually prefer wall over dome

dome is an insane thing to have teamwise

[halcyon gust]

I don't trust my teammates enough to actually deal with shooters in a timely matter

[mossy oyster]

i just like wall for proactive movement

and defense

portable bunker

[halcyon gust]

I mean sure I can mark them with Brain rupture, but that is gonna take awhile

Because you mark something with brain rupture. Everything is being fire in that general direction

[latent mauve]

Seen one go straight through a solid wall before

The trapper special

[mossy oyster]

alright just 1 shotted a rager with a knife strikedown to the forehead

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-majima-dance-entrance-knife-gif-16294697

[tulip kettle]

this feels like a personal attack

[mossy oyster]

soykers when trauma and void doesnt stagger the nurgle buffed rager

[tulip kettle]

the wall is great for every special spam wave. Then the nurgles blessing ruins it by allowing them to run straight through because theyre unstaggerable

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-falling-breaking-bad-dm4uz3-gif-18078549

[tulip kettle]

cool mechanic FS ty

[mossy oyster]

yep

get counter countered

me on nurgle blessing with a columnus so I dont give a shit about stagger

[jovial juniper]

Just have extreme stagger (psykers don't have it)

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/sazzybarb-squidward-happy-gif-21759552

[tulip kettle]

nah nurgles makes stuff actually immune except to specific stuff like VoC

[mossy oyster]

is that something real or your meme

is extreme stagger like chastise

[jovial juniper]

Kraks, Ogryn Bullrush

[mossy oyster]

ah

I was gonna ask if chastise was one of em

but its not

they dont gaf about chastise

[tulip kettle]

chastise just makes you immune instead

so kind of nearly as good

the ultimate play when confronted with a nurgles blessed rager pack as zealot

[mossy oyster]

funny how zealots and soykers are the ones eating the most shit against non staggerables

[tulip kettle]

is to chastise at the poxwalker 30m behind you

[mossy oyster]

you mean I pull out my IB flamer

and just ignore them while they burn

right

[tulip kettle]

but that would actually be impactful and good

so of course not

[mossy oyster]

meh we are not the same

https://tenor.com/view/gus-fring-jumpscare-gus-fring-jumpscare-scary-oby-gif-13022434999806691946

[tulip kettle]

or me earlier today, queing in with 3 zealots and hearing a literal synchronised chorus of "shadows, take me" when the rager spam starts

[upper sun]

this is very cute

[halcyon gust]

Sounds of a psyker becoming a smoothie while the 3 zealots race each other to the end

[formal harness]

they don't need to bother randos with it, you can set it to not show your messages lmao

[upper sun]

i dont mind

[formal harness]

naw fair enough, just correcting it in case yall also want to experiment with it

[upper sun]

my favorite of those random interactions was someone changing i need help to i need cock

[restive ice]

[grizzled sierra]

I mean

Shouties can parry their way thru ranger packs with some smart positioning

But not many use the devils claw so uh

[buoyant maple]

Abysmal cleave distribution vs flak is the main reason

Zealot actually has the least amount of options vs carapace if they don’t pick a melee that kills carapace

[upper sun]

bolter

or umm

uhhhh

revolver?

[restive ice]

laspistol

[upper sun]

doesnt that do exactly zero carapace damage?

oh no my bad

2 damage

[buoyant maple]

Bolter, revolver, and that’s about it

[restive ice]

if you get 0 dmg laspistol it causes an underflow and lets you oneshot them because it ends up being 2^63 - 1 damage per shot

[upper sun]

i dont believe u

[restive ice]

good

[buoyant maple]

Besides chainsword has pretty insane crit value on zealot and it cleaves enemies better (better damage distribution)

[fast frost]

Does the force swords charged count as warp kills?

[upper sun]

no :

[fast frost]

Shame

Was just cooking up a new load out and seen if it worked you could chain non warp into warp kills using only the sword

[jovial juniper]

Maleficmaxxing

[strong gulch]

If you mean the force sword special attacks, those are warp. Heavies are not.

[fresh reef]

least damage done with surge

I'm so washed bruh

[fast frost]

Ah right yeah that was what I was meaning

Was just wanting to branch out from just using staffs

Was looking at rupture too does flayer mean any weapon? Could I make an attack sped psycher or does it not work like that

[strong gulch]

Soulstealer + illisi special can make you surprisingly tanky in melee.

[fast frost]

Yeah I was thinking about making a melee psycher but I have no idea where to begin atm I’m just trying to read through anything

[strong gulch]

Says all attacks for KF. I can't remember if DOTs count. I remember tying to get bleeds to proc it, and it never did.

[mossy oyster]

good weapons and options

[strong gulch]

Most melee focused builds use SG, DD, and DS4.

[mossy oyster]

for more melee oriented you're definitely gonna be running scriers/DD/assail probably

[strong gulch]

If you do knife SG, I rec having crit like @mossy oyster posted.

[buoyant maple]

Yes

[mossy oyster]

oh and if you do scrier's

precognition is actually extremely good

id say for knife psyker your main go to blessing combos will be : precog/ riposte or uncanny/ riposte

both are good overall some just shine in some scenarios a little more than others

[fast frost]

I was thinking of making a force sword melee build that just chunks stuff in front of it whilst being really hard to kill

[mossy oyster]

uncanny needing other enemies weakspots, precog needing to dodge, etc

[strong gulch]

Precog is fine, but I don't like that you have to dodge AND only have 2 seconds to use it.

[fast frost]

Ah wait I just seen flayer has a 15 sec cool-down how disappointing

I get why

[mossy oyster]

with how fast you are with scriers

and a DD / mettle proc

those 2 seconds of burst are pretty important

plus the scriers finesse bonus and allat

[fast frost]

Torn between a fire build and a force sword melee build now

[mossy oyster]

like I said both are good, just depends on you or what situation your in

if you have a smiteker uncanny would be better since you wouldnt be able to dodge to proc precog

all situtational but all good just the same

[strong gulch]

In melee, you're going to be in more danger, so footwork becomes more important.

[mossy oyster]

as a zealot main this is just more knife practice

also its really fun

fastest thing on atoma

[strong gulch]

When you say fire build, if you mean blazing spirit illisi, it's a meme.

[mossy oyster]

1 shotted a rager earlier and 1 shotted a half HP crusher

[strong gulch]

Best weapon is the kitchen knife you found on the floor.

[mossy oyster]

if you wanna get your feet wet as melee psyker

this was my starter

then i got better at using scriers etc

and went to go rollin for knives

[fast frost]

Cooking up a storm for my melee force sword build

Tempted to drop prescience for seers to get one with the warp

[strong gulch]

If you're interested, fire trauma + assail + creeping flames + DD is a thing. Most people take DS4 (again lol). DD boosts your melee and assail while trauma is great for hordes or "OH SHIT" moments. It doesn't lean as heavily on trauma like a WC build does and has a lot of flexibility. You could just melee and assail for most of the map.

Deimos and illisi could be also good candidates.

But that's def a use whatever build with no specific focus.

[analog agate]

By it being a thing… you mean that one weirdo Arco who uses it

[strong gulch]

No, it's not even that.

[late sapphire]

trauma dd will always confuse me

[strong gulch]

You need rending on it for an acro build

[analog agate]

Yeah, he runs blaze and rending

[late sapphire]

'yes i would like my capstone to not really boost my staff'

[strong gulch]

DD not for trauma RMB

Not staff main tho

[fast frost]

So I’m thinking of making a melee build that uses illsi with blazing spirit and soul blaze then maximising my tankiness

My only concern is the weapon will need to be so awkward I won’t have anything like it in my stash

[strong gulch]

If you want to, go for it. But it's a meme for a reason.

[fast frost]

And also I’m torn between prescience the for 5% crit and seers to get access to one with the warp

[strong gulch]

I desperately want blazing spirit illisi to be good, but its such a whipmy thing.

[fast frost]

And yeah I’m not taking it seriously at all. I’m just really bored of all my builds and want something stupid since the game feels too easy with my builds currently

[lavish glade]

Me when i blow you up with my mind for no dueling sword

[strong gulch]

Well if you really want to commit to flames, so exorcist + blazing spirit and BM.

Iirc finesse damage is crit and weakspot damage and not chance.

[fast frost]

I thought finesse transfers to attack speed and therefore is technically wanted for increasing chances

[strong gulch]

Finesse vs finesse damage

[fast frost]

Ah right

[strong gulch]

I know.... it's obtuse.

[fast frost]

Trying to think of how badly I want first target in this build

[strong gulch]

Part of what makes SB sword work is not killing your target.

[fast frost]

Yeah I had one with 80 all over but first but it bricked anyway I think

[strong gulch]

Welp. Thanks hadron

[fast frost]

Can be used but it would have a groan/pox mod on it

[strong gulch]

RIP lol

[fast frost]

Is exorcist only a t2?

[lethal lagoon]

2, 3, 4, 5 %

It's on repeated hit, so I mean it's still straight dookie

But it's high quality t4 dookie.

[fast frost]

Yeah I’m trying out this and I can see it’s not going to work as a flame build

Wildfires spread distance is a lot shorter than I remember and my crit chance is just too low to set it off naturally

[strong gulch]

We doing memes

[lethal lagoon]

SG Illy with Uncanny and Blazing Spirit is much better than you'd think.

[strong gulch]

SG + exorcist is the meme dream

[lethal lagoon]

And by much better than you think, I mean we are going from diarrhea to healthly poop.

[strong gulch]

TBH, that sounds like a win.

[lethal lagoon]

It was my days spent trying to get the force swords to be "anti-boss"

[frail harness]

How do you even fix blazing spirit?

[lethal lagoon]

Make it an AOE

[upper sun]

make it work on hit

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically, I still wouldn't run it on hit.

[frail harness]

On kill spread 3 stacks to enemies in radius

[mossy oyster]

this better

[upper sun]

kusu knife

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, a little too kusu-core for my tastes

[restive ice]

zealot lookin ass

[lavish glade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/886742356529922172/1145863884545204335/attachment.gif

[lethal lagoon]

[sterile loom]

do people have a problem with smite psykers? i just had an entire team say ewwww smiteker when i brought it out for the first time halfway through the mission and leave screwing me over on my 9 out of 10 auric undying penance
i literally used smite one time the entire mission because my builds centered around my trauma staff..

[fast frost]

Taking my tanky psyker for a spin to test it wish me luck

[lethal lagoon]

In the worst case scenario, you are lowering your team's damage and ruining their positioning while doing no damage. In the best case scenario, you are trivializing the game.
The answer is most people do not have a problem because they aren't thinking that much or playing that much.

[fast frost]

My only thought is if you’re just using smite in a high level Lobby, I wouldn’t comment on it but in my head I’d be muttering it wasn’t helping much

[lethal lagoon]

I've run quite a bit of EP smite shriek where I'm spamming smite most of the game. Ran into 1 smite hater over quite a number of games. And I'm not even 100% sure he hated smite, he just left after watching me for a bit.

People are too busy being heroes in their own story to care.

That said, there are people who team up to grief/troll.

[sterile loom]

we were trapped in a corner with alot of gunners/ragers/crushers so i threw down my bubble shield and pull out smite to help crowd controls us out of it

[lethal lagoon]

Eww smite bubble

Anyways, there was a big problem for a while where 3 stacks would queue and then kick people at the end of the mission

So I think it's less than you used smite, and more that you ran into a shitty 3 stack

[sterile loom]

yeah i think thats around the time i left

just came bck

man that sucks it was literally my last 9/10 auric undying penance mission and id have all the non over time penances done....

why do people have to be garbage human beings i dont get it

[fast frost]

Ok I’m abandoning making a build for the force sword

Was dying faster than I think I ever have

I’ll give it another go I’m sure it was just luck

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

when melee soyker's most effective setup isnt even warp weapons

strange times we live in

[lavish glade]

Deimos still fucks tho its warp attk is kind of iffy

[strong gulch]

Sorry about your penance tho.

[thin knoll]

Lol, I asked about smite this morning, and I didn't realize how widely despised it is at higher levels. I just think shocky fingies feels cool, but I understand why people don't like it

[lethal lagoon]

I respect your refusal to leave the mission to save your streak

If more people were like you, the Auric Storm Survivor title wouldn't be known as "ASS"

(and if someone in your lobby is wearing it, you can expect them to be terrible at the game lmao)

[thin knoll]

I have questions about getting better as a psyker, besides not using Smite. I'm okay in regular damnations and lvl 4 aurics, but struggle in anything beyond that. Should I trial by fire and play higher lvl games till it clicks, or should I practice particular skills in lower lvl games first?

[mossy oyster]

deimos feels nice

then you use its warp

[strong gulch]

SAD. I'm taking meme fire sword and purg psyker is in the lobby

[lethal lagoon]

Trial by fire

Surge staff with creeping flames shriek and Illisus sword is a good starter build.

Simple to use, so you can focus on your in-game skills. Surge staff is really easy to roll for too, small blessing pool.

[cosmic sigil]

we did a 4 purga run yesterday. That was a bit unfair to the mobs. Never had a Mael so easy.

[latent mauve]

Quad smite

[cosmic sigil]

probably tonight (or maybe quad void)

we tried 4 traumas and failed miserably: too many stairs

[lavish glade]

Was playing w a guy earlier would only ever use the light attk for the fire staff and push everything away

[cosmic sigil]

4 surge was quite interesting too 😄

[cosmic sigil]

i may overuse lmb with purga tbh

[thin knoll]

Same. Stagger too strong

[formal harness]

damage taken? what is that

[latent mauve]

[formal harness]

taking damage is cringe and unacceptable

I love the variety in melee weapon choices, very interesting to see

[brazen rampart]

Do you want a force sword setup that doesn't suck?

[lilac swallow]

can someone recommend a good skill tree for bio lightning

also, what istuations is bio lightning good for

when should you use it vs not use eit

cause i was trying to play with it earlier and it felt kinda shitty

but i probably just not using it correctly

or have bad skill tree

[lethal lagoon]

Get EP stack, Cast EP smite, hold till 85%, use shriek, keep holding.
Use with Surge Staff and then Dueling sword, Illisus, or Dagger.

[white swan]

anyone know if theres a clear winner here on what i should be using? or is it actually preference

[narrow herald]

is this good on void?

[lyric burrow]

if your running nexus surge then yeah

[narrow herald]

what about purge?

[wind spruce]

Not really, no

The uptime isn't high enough

[narrow herald]

is this good on anything except gun psyker?

[lethal lagoon]

purgy

[wind spruce]

Extremely good with assail, Purge and ok on surge

[quartz barn]

on void its not too usefull due to how you play with void

you stagger everything nearby so the 1 sec wont do anything

[lethal lagoon]

[quartz barn]

and you really want to avoid getting shot from all over

void's only weakness :/

[wind spruce]

It's also good if you're running knoife or other high crit fast attack speed melee weapons

[lethal lagoon]

Don't ignore our child

[wind spruce]

Dis why you run assail with void

[quartz barn]

true

[wind spruce]

So many people can't comprehend this, idk why

[quartz barn]

but its the only time EE is useful

but rng

and not that great

[wind spruce]

Actually I worked out why it is

[lethal lagoon]

Because most people never kill ranged units, so what do they need assail for?

[wind spruce]

It's because a ton of void users are bubble bois

[quartz barn]

i learned something today tho

bubble hitbox is much larger underneath

[lethal lagoon]

I learned a valuable lesson as well

[wind spruce]

Shush

[quartz barn]

saw it block shots even though the bullets weren't even hitting the bubble

[wind spruce]

Wait isn't it just a sphere?

Or is that what you mean

[quartz barn]

i was in the funny green scan mission in the hourglass

final event

psyker on the team placed a bubble on the upper level

i was underneath

bubble visual doesn't reach the lower floor, but was still able to block shots

[wind spruce]

Just don't get your lil footies shot off

[shadow oar]

is graia auto way worse than the other two variants for gunpsyker

or just like a lil bit worse

[wind spruce]

Like 30% worse

[shadow oar]

ahh

[wind spruce]

The first video of you killing the shotgunners is so funny lmao

[mossy oyster]

I’m the difference I run ds4 void shield wall

[wind spruce]

What keystone

[mossy oyster]

DD

[lethal lagoon]

It encapsulates the smite experience

[wind spruce]

You get a pass

[lethal lagoon]

Also the game spamming so many shotgunners was kinda funny

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-shake-hands-pleased-happy-macho-man-gif-11860553

[wind spruce]

[lethal lagoon]

Like 0 variety, strategy, or anything, here's 30 fucking shotguns

[lethal lagoon]

🪞

[lilac swallow]

whats the best force sword, and what are the best perks and blessings for it?

also what are the best perks/blessings for bistol?

[ornate hamlet]

Depends on what you want to use the force sword for

[lilac swallow]

there are different uses?

[wind spruce]

Illisi has better horde clear but isn't as good against single targets, and is pretty garbage against carapace and unyielding

Deimos is extremely strong against all single targets

[lilac swallow]

what about obscurus?

[ornate hamlet]

it exists

not in my inventory, but it does

[lilac swallow]

curious

okay, what are best blessings/perks for deimos

[buoyant maple]

uncanny + slaughterer, flak/maniac/carapace/unyielding

[lilac swallow]

is reflector worth?

[atomic swan]

not really imo
unlike blocking melee attack, you can't block range attack from 360 angle
not recommend to use it to push forward
i only use that to back off from bad position without taking full enemies volley

[ornate hamlet]

Worth noting that executor, or whatever was the power on weakspot blessing, works per tick with deimos' special

[atomic swan]

usually picking uncanny strike first because its broken, once your stacks are up
it melts armours like butter

[lilac swallow]

kay

whatre the best bistol berks/perks?

[soft stone]

I’m curious, how many speed psykers have been seen?

[upper galleon]

for psyker? puncture+ lethal proximity or surgical

perks, not too sure, flak elites? manaic? anytrhing to help with 1 hit BPs when you are out of assail shards

[unreal wasp]

Best feeling so far using Venting Shriek. Being able to knock hounds off of teammates who still haven't gone past a drop-off

And are behind walls

And also just saving people with walls in the way but they're in range

[near drift]

Vent having wall ignore stagger in a huge cone is a wild tool

So good

[unreal wasp]

[wind spruce]

Definitely maniacs, need it to hit flamer and trapper oneshots

[unreal wasp]

The only thing about Venting Shriek that's funny to me is the varying emotion in the quote

"I AM ONE WITH THE WARP" and "I CAN'T CONTROL IT"

Meanwhile same Peril, not about to explode

[crude cape]

so this was satisfying lol

that poxburster explode in the middle of the dogs was perfect

[shell kettle]

Love it for Purgatus build. Deimos is good for armor crack, Flames CC and use brain burst to pick off snipers with empowered psyonics keystone to chain them.

Bubble shield good too.

[restive ice]

time to buy and sacrifice for blessing

[shell kettle]

Equinox Voidstwike force staffff?

[wind spruce]

That's a great base...

Good stat distribution. Flak. Flurry III.

[restive ice]

gonna scrap it anyways

[strong gulch]

I swear the main way I play this game right now is stockpiling good or very upgradable trauma bases.

[wind spruce]

But why... do you have a better void?

[remote bloom]

How is this dueling sword?

brick or nah?

[mossy oyster]

thats good

arguable whether you go carapace or unyielding but im a personal fan of unyielding

best combos you want for DS is either ramp/shred, ramp/uncanny, and precog/riposte is really good too if you're SG

scrier's would abuse the fuck out of precog/riposte or precog/uncanny

[remote bloom]

I'll run this with surge/assail

I think

[mossy oyster]

what keystone?

[remote bloom]

EP

[mossy oyster]

that works

[strong gulch]

DD would boost both your assail and DS4

but then you have to chase down your glowin stack man

don't actully have to chase them, but magpies (me) must go after the shiny

[mossy oyster]

yea but I didnt wanna say swap to DD cause it doesnt really benefit surge staff

unless he wants to be assail DS4 oriented then yes DD is a perfectly fine swap

a strong one at that

[strong gulch]

EP doesn't really benefit surge staff either. Surge is pretty good for getting an EP stack tho.

Side note, LMB on surge shouldn't be slept on.

[wind spruce]

Riposte/uncanny is still best for scriers

Finesse stacks additively so scriers and DD builds actually get less from precognition than other builds do, and they get more from extra crit chance since they have finesse bonuses

[strong gulch]

By get EP stack, I mean an ekite kill with Overpowering Souls node.

LMB on most staves can at least get something from DD.

[wind spruce]

DD isn't bad for surge... still gives 15% damage and 30% crit damage

[strong gulch]

PFFFT. You're right! What I'm laughing at is I was just looking at the cruel fortune node and locked WEAKSPOT into my brain.

Ogryn thoughts I swear.

[empty temple]

Uncanny strike is really bad

[restive ice]

[empty temple]

There's simply other blessings that get the job done far better

[strong gulch]

Uncanny Strike is an anchor blessing for DS.

It's bis for a lot of melee.

[empty temple]

Only thing it's semi useful for is zealot throwing knives

[strong gulch]

You really aren't doing memes?? Is this satire????

[restive ice]

show us your youtube subscriptions

[strong gulch]

oh no lol

[empty temple]

What's my YouTube sub gonna mean?

[upper galleon]

Says who

Cause there is a certian youtuber who spouts that opinion and they are wrong asf no matter how stubborn they are

[empty temple]

And how are they wrong

What do they say?

[upper galleon]

Unlike combat blade which has special crit adms, which on zealot can skip uncanny strike cause they can go riposte + talents and hit 95% crit chance

Dueling sword does not have special crit adms, they use the same value for adm critting or not

At minimum, uncanny is a 25% damage boost vs everything not unarmored or infested, aka everything you want to be stabbing harder

Depending on your target however it can be much much more, making it the best blessing by far

Especially for lights/pa vs flak and heavies vs carapace

[wind spruce]

And uncanny is like a 300% damage increases for lights on flak

Damn beat me to it

[upper galleon]

Hold your horses 🐴

It’s much harder to debunk falsehoods than it is to repeat them

[restive ice]

i'll hold my horse

[upper galleon]

Uncanny is a free buff rewarding you for doing something you should always be doing, hitting heads

It buffs your soulblaze damage, buffs your hypothetical bleeding damage as the buff remains active

[strong gulch]

To be clear, this is directed at misinformation spread by some youtuber(s).

[empty temple]

I guess I have to test for myself to see if what they say applies

Because the reasoning was that 90 percent of the time it doesn't apply

Wheras other blessings give you value

[upper galleon]

Wdym 90%?

It works on maniac and unyielding

And enemies that are infested and unarmored are rarely threats or struggle to hit important bps

It also gives value most of the time (like most blessings) since it’s a persistent buff

Precog and riposte are on dodge and shred is on chained/consecutive hits and drops if you hit air

[cosmic sigil]

To be fair, Tanner only spoke of uncanny in the context of the combat blade

and he did say that you could abuse it with SB (last true duo psyker run)

and, at least on zealot, i do agree you can do without

[upper galleon]

Rampage is meh even with it being power (tooltip lies) cause it doesn’t help boost your single target and you need to hit a push attack to proc it

[upper galleon]

Tbf he isn’t epic cole who actually did good math iirc

Cole says uncanny is optional in the blazing scourge build because, well it is, all your crit adms are 1.0 or above

[cosmic sigil]

also, uncanny is good but the real reason you take it on the cb is mostly against carapace and abusing dots

[upper galleon]

But it is by no means the worst or bad blessing even then

[cosmic sigil]

i totally agree with it

i started going riposte + precog because of Cole

oh no, it's an excellent blessing

too good tbh

[upper galleon]

Lot of momentum knifers or non zealots taking knife without uncanny but not getting their crit adms reliably enough

[cosmic sigil]

true

[wind spruce]

They buffed DS cleave awhile ago so rampage can proc off regular lights

[strong gulch]

This reminds me that I've been want to build a new knife.

Thanks brunt...

[restive ice]

turn it into a lacerate fleshtearer machine

[upper galleon]

Not against bruisers

[strong gulch]

I JUST TOSSED IT. Goodbye bleed memes.

[restive ice]

good riddance

[wind spruce]

True

[upper galleon]

Rampage is good but with shred or riposte i dont miss it

[strong gulch]

[restive ice]

shit they heard us

[strong gulch]

It rolled lacerate too

[restive ice]

IT WAS FATE

[remote bloom]

Dios Mio

[strong gulch]

Out of ordos. 😭

Doing a map with blazing spirit sword will help.

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

hadron knew we would be too powerful if we had money

[strong gulch]

I'll get the money. Basket toughness build will save us.

[thin finch]

What is the damage multiplier here

[eager horizon]

Just a heads up for any psyker out there who like stabbing things. There's this bug where if you do a Special+Charged Sprinting Heavy it won't deal any damage. Make sure to stop sprinting before releasing the attack or else this happens.

https://youtu.be/mBam8Cz_t_o

[mossy oyster]

knife is annoying like that

with the sprinting bs

[eager horizon]

Aye. I thought I was just going crazy till I figured out the STR