psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

Can't have limp noodles as a man

[upper sun]

thats legit how you get carpel tunnel

[lethal lagoon]

Also there's epigenetic evidence that stronger grip = healthier DNA

[strong gulch]

Protein powder is so yucky to me. I emotinally can't put it in coffee. So I do something quite foul. I mix just enough water to make the powder drinkable and do a shot of it. Get the whole thing over as fast as possible.

[lethal lagoon]

Just gotta do it responsibly.

[upper sun]

you should do those with a fully stretched arm not at a desk

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I think you are imagining things that aren't happening.

I have it at my desk for easy reach, I"m not using a heavy duty hand gripper while I'm on the keyboard lmao

I'm also a huge baby about it, any discomfort at all and I'm done training grip for a week.

[upper sun]

w

[lethal lagoon]

l

[grizzled sierra]

Grug now Stan voidstrike staff

[mossy oyster]

🎳

[upper sun]

tbh

they should remove auric heresy

and add 3 more maelstrom options

[mossy oyster]

or just keep auric heresy and add more maelstrom options

[lethal lagoon]

There should always be an 80k auric mael on the board

auric heresy serves no functional purpose

[upper sun]

1 always random
2 always some kind of scab maelstrom
3 always some kind of monsters
4 always gas/light out/vent

debate me

u can not i am rite

[lethal lagoon]

That's dumb

If you are going to add variety, you need one that's always juiced

[mossy oyster]

auric heresy is the kiddy pool whats wrong with keeping that around

[lethal lagoon]

Because there's literally a kiddy pool right next to it already?

[upper sun]

no

[mossy oyster]

i guess if you wanna count everything kiddy pool besides maelstrom

yea

[upper sun]

they dont want you to have fun

[lethal lagoon]

No I mean you can just run regular damanation

Why would you ever run auric heresy?

It serves no purpose

[upper sun]

i am simply going by fatshark design methodology

[mossy oyster]

pretty sure auric heresy is purely to get people acquainted with modifiers

[upper sun]

i played auric heresy exactly once the first time i tried auric

[mossy oyster]

without getting shit stomped

attempting auric damn

[lethal lagoon]

You can run hi int normal t5

[mossy oyster]

but its gonna happen anyway

[lethal lagoon]

It's easier than auric

[upper sun]

i could have done high intensity t4 or low intensity t5

[lethal lagoon]

That's also stg normal t5s too

[upper sun]

actually low intensity t5 is like malice with bosses

high inten t4 then

[upper sun]

ye

tbh ive never done normal damnation

[lethal lagoon]

auric heresy is just this sort of weird middle-ground

I use normal damn to test weird builds/if I'm in a rush for contracts

[upper sun]

they should add a permanent low intensity t5 for broke people

imagine 900 plasteel in 25 minutes with very low chances of wipes

[mossy oyster]

dub it the plasteel mines

[grizzled sierra]

wouldnt even complain

grug should tryx damnation, only play heresy

[upper sun]

its legit crazy how low intensity is low

maps are empty

[mossy oyster]

more heretics to test weapons on

[grizzled sierra]

grug panic easily, so mess up a lot when stressed

is why only play heresy

[mossy oyster]

ok understandable

have a nice heresy run

[grizzled sierra]

grug want get better and play damnation tho
so grug just gonna go for it

[strong gulch]

I read heresy as Hershey every time.

Hershey run.

poop

[mossy oyster]

just remember ur the first and last line of defense for urself(good team mates are nice but even on higher difficulties its a coin toss)

u got it grug

[mossy oyster]

low intensity hersheys

[grizzled sierra]

this would be funny if grug knew what hershey is

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hersheys-chocolate-bar-candy-bar-hershey-bar-hersheys-bar-gif-27606535

[grizzled sierra]

oh, a brand of chocolate

allow grug to introduce

https://tenor.com/view/mončamatěj-gif-23698478

is funny

some tiny toddler small uns think cows purple

[strong gulch]

Ah yes. I watched a documentary on them, then I forgot nearly everything.

[radiant frigate]

milka (my beloved)

[mossy oyster]

paydays are a goated snack bar

[ornate hamlet]

can anyone send me a good smite psyker build

[strong gulch]

@lethal lagoon You've been summoned.

[lethal lagoon]

With Surge staff, Flak + Maniac, Flak + Unyielding, or Carpace + Unyielding.

Get EP stack with surge staff, use EP smite till 85%, shriek, keep holding smite, repeat.

What melee weapon you might ask? There's melee?

[ornate hamlet]

i use blaze sword

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, anything is fine lmao.

[ornate hamlet]

thanks

whay about brainburst build

[lethal lagoon]

standard gameplay for EP smite

[lethal lagoon]

Uhh, EP, 2 shields, dueling sword/dagger, purg staff.

blaze trauma is also an option.

You can drop something for KD

I don't use KD that much

If you use both sheilds, it stacks.

so double buff

https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/1239085954988249139

^ example

[ornate hamlet]

thankss

[strong gulch]

If you prefer what fire shriek does, your can also do that instead double wall, but you lose out on doubling the speed buff.

[unreal tapir]

what is it that makes the knife good?

[strong gulch]

1 point left for whatever. I use it with purg because it's the easiest to slot in with EP BB.

[lethal lagoon]

fast movement/move tech + push attack.

[strong gulch]

Knife is has high mobility, higher innate crit chance, and can tackle everything. If you know how to use it, it's a banger, if not is feel kinda meh. With bleed blessing you get the option to run in, apply bleed, and back off while the enemy dies. It also has fast attack speed, and on psyker specifically with their faster stam regen, push attacks are very spamable.

[upper galleon]

high single target damage andhigh mobility

[unreal tapir]

yea playing psyker knife just kinda makes me want to make a zealot for knife meta

[strong gulch]

If you are prone to hand pain stiffness, or weakness, knife will chew up your hands tho.

[grizzled sierra]

Tell grug
How much cleave on Voidstrike
Grug feel like everything die

[strong gulch]

I don't remember exactly. It's high but not infinite like purg or trauma.

[grizzled sierra]

No matter, it really good

[strong gulch]

I think it's 12.

[quartz barn]

nice you even got clapped by every special to showcase proper ep smite gameplay

mfw the mutie throws you into a pouncing dog

[lethal lagoon]

Uniornically, yep.

Here's one where my dent is slightly smaller

God what a stupid ability

[brazen rampart]

Did you just... slide off the edge to dodge an attack and use snipers to boop you back on?

[lethal lagoon]

"Did-"
Ima stop you right there.

Any quesiton about these clips can be answered with

[azure bridge]

I hunger

For souls

[brazen rampart]

EP smite aside, that was still a sick tactic you did.

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea how a single sniper didn't hit me lmao

prior to that.

[brazen rampart]

I think they might actually shoot their allies and have limited cleave.

You were kinda neck deep in ogryns.

[lethal lagoon]

That would make sense

[wind spruce]

Well except for the one that did hit you, you dodge slided every shot

Dat muscle memory in response to sniper sound is strong

[lethal lagoon]

Me dodging sniper shots

[wind spruce]

Void cleave is a bit inconsistent, but it can kill like 8-12 poxwalkers in a conga line

Surge also doesn't strictly double it, because there's some weirdness going on where the orbs seem to detonate each other if they're too close

If you try and split them you get better results

[potent echo]

Or whip out that melee assail like the god emperor intended

[wind spruce]

CHADsail

[blissful pulsar]

What do I need to look for in a trauma staff?

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze Trauma is a 2/4 situation, you have to roll perfect.

So you want 2 of the following, Flak damage, crit chance, blazing spirit, warp nexus.

[blissful pulsar]

Wha tabout the stats?

[lethal lagoon]

You want Damage, Blast Radius, Charge Rate above 75.

With Blast Radius and Charge rate being the most important.

You want quell above 70, and warp resist isn't as important, but it won't really work if it's too low.

[blissful pulsar]

lmao

[lethal lagoon]

I would not use either.

Trauma scales hard on blast and charge rate.

80 vs 53

I guess you can use the first one to roll for a rending trauma

If you are one of those uncool losers.

[blissful pulsar]

?

Usable till I can try to roll more?

[lethal lagoon]

That quell is unfortunate, but it'll be hard to beat that.

I hate beginner's luck.

With blaze trauma you have to peril edge, so quell is kinda important.

[blissful pulsar]

Not really beginner, I've had this one for ages I just thought meta moved away from blazing spirit

[potent echo]

Never

[lethal lagoon]

That's a weird though.

[blissful pulsar]

Pretty sure I had this staff before the skill update lmao

[potent echo]

Just that no one uses it

[lethal lagoon]

People just don't use it because

1. if the roll isn't perfect it feels bad
2. it doesn't sound good on paper.

3. Trauma is the first staff you get and at low stats its absolute dookie.

[potent echo]

It was me I was the blaze trauma hater

But then wildfire

[blissful pulsar]

My question with trauma is what build you run it with

I'm thinking of adding it in my EP rupture build

[lethal lagoon]

That's fine.

You can also run the standard surge build in the pins, just grab BB instead of Smite.

[potent echo]

I took DD assail trauma

[blissful pulsar]

Yea surge is alright, wanted trauma to handle crusher patrols

[lethal lagoon]

I'm saying you can use basically the same build

[potent echo]

Wait no I took BB DD

[lethal lagoon]

I don't like KD, so I think this is the last thing I was running for blaze.

[blissful pulsar]

Does kinetic presence help brain rupture reach any break points?

[lethal lagoon]

That's the elite damage one?

[blissful pulsar]

Yea

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think so.

[potent echo]

WC so ouchieoofie no toughness no health

And no the aura doesn't change BPs

Also true aim with blaze trauma is real ok

Brainburst gives 2 true aim stacks

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah if you melee a lot. Plus BB gives two stacks

[blissful pulsar]

Losing One with the Warp is rough :(

[lethal lagoon]

?

[blissful pulsar]

Oh true aim isn't the aura, I thought you were referring to the aura lmao

crit chance aura

[lethal lagoon]

true aim is more crackhead tactics for blaze trauma

you can ignore him

[blissful pulsar]

I should try and get a better voidstrike to use true aim with

[strong gulch]

The elite aura or the +5% to ranged damage node does hit some BB BPs, BUT they are not worthwhile because if you are getting ANY benefit from warp rider, then you hit the BP. Being able to one shot dogs without BB upgrades or any peril is not worth the point. One fewer BBs to an ogryn when your team is busily shooting halos is even more meh; again assuming no BB upgrades and starting from 0 peril.

[strong gulch]

Solidity helps a lot with a shit quell speed roll.

[strong gulch]

When I was extra desperate for a trauma staff, I was trying to make a 45 warp resist staff work. It did not.

[potent echo]

F

[strong gulch]

🇫

It wasn't as bad as the peril gen that trauma had on launch tho.

[lethal lagoon]

You didn't like riding that dragon?

[strong gulch]

No

[lethal lagoon]

Respect

[potent echo]

I didnt do alot of warp resist BP testing

[buoyant maple]

EP brain burst at high enough peril with +7.5% elite damage can 1 tap scab rager

AFAIK that’s the only thing it noticeably changes

[fresh reef]

Surge/Shriek/BB is the most fun build on psyker

fight me

[lethal lagoon]

I've been running Surge kinetic flayer true aim

And It's funny

Encourages me to use the dagger more

Which was the point

[potent echo]

Kinetic 🤢 flayer 🤮

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah it's ass lmao

Shoots surge towards elite, off shoot hits random mob and triggers kinetic flayer

Wow, such good, much damage.

[potent echo]

I've seen some purgatus guy use it and once in the match he lmb'ed a rager and it flayed

Totally justified talent point

[half iron]

replace “ker” in psyker with “gangnamstyle”

[potent echo]

👴

[wind spruce]

This is the real Chad trauma build

The real psyker endgame is just running this build for absolutely every ranged weapon:

[wind spruce]

Goddamn, you need that many modifiers just for a scab rager nowadays?

[strong gulch]

ye

[unreal wasp]

Don't really understand why people get confused by me using Bolt Pistol with Brain Rupture, have very different use cases

If it wasn't Bolt Pistol it'd be the Agripinaa revolver

[potent echo]

Who's getting confused?

[unreal wasp]

Not anyone within the past few hours but I've had people say that using Bolt Pistol with Brain Rupture is questionable

Like I use Bolt Pistol for quickly tagging trappers and other specials at close-ish range and Brain Rupture for elites/specials at range, bulwarks and crushers at any range and bosses

Illisi and shriek for horde clear

Even learned to do a funny combo where I'll brain rupture distant muties and immediately shoot them with bolt pistol after and they die

[potent echo]

How do you deal with shooter rooms other than creeping?

[unreal wasp]

Usually just shriek them

[wind spruce]

"Other than creeping"

[unreal wasp]

Like if you can get the entire shooter group before they split apart

Everything except maybe the gunners dies

[wind spruce]

Just ignore the haters

I'd still rather run assail and duelling sword with bolt pistol, but you do you

It sounds like you've got your bases covered for the most part

[unreal wasp]

Me just like my funny melee psyker

Reminder of my levels

Ogryn mindset on Psyker

[wind spruce]

True melee psyker runs DS, let's be real

[potent echo]

Well yea

Deimos is the cultured pick

[unreal wasp]

I mean, I could run Deimos and still spam warp charge to get my shriek off

But is the horde clear as good?

I mostly spam warp-charged heavies into 100% guaranteed crit regular heavies into hordes

[restive ice]

deimos is too girthy to stroke again quickly

[unreal wasp]

My Illisi is pretty damn girthy but that's because I'm using a skin

Moebian Parade best force sword skin until they add a version that doesn't have the camo

[potent echo]

No

[unreal wasp]

[unreal wasp]

Heckin' chonker

[brazen rampart]

Just use weapon customization.

[unreal wasp]

But other people can't see that

[brazen rampart]

You can get that hilt with a non icky blade.

[unreal wasp]

I like the shape of the blade but the camo is just kinda goofy

Camo in general on melee is goofy to me

[brazen rampart]

Yeah, the blade shape is the same.

You just don't have to have the camo with weapon customization.

[unreal wasp]

I've used weapon customization a few times before, I just always uninstall it though

[brazen rampart]

To each their own, I suppose.

[unreal wasp]

Used it recently to try to give my Ogryn a minigun and then I found out the barrel doesn't turn when I shoot

[potent echo]

That's a different mod

It was a custom model no?

[brazen rampart]

I used it to make the barrel on my gorgonum stubber be a shotgun barrel, so it's basically like I'm hauling an autocannon with a barrel shroud.

[potent echo]

I have that too

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shock-eyes-out-big-eyes-what-gif-26401236

holy shit i never noticed that

[unreal wasp]

Ye, custom model, Sydonai Edits

Definitely earned this damage, not like I just look at groups and press F

Do leftover Soulblaze stacks count as overkill damage? Not sure why that's always so high.

[cosmic sigil]

if you use a charged illisi against chaff that's also kinda overkill

[potent echo]

I heard people don't like the default damage plugin because it's not that accurate

But yea soulblaze should give relatively low overkill

[unreal wasp]

Man

Must be the warp-charge heavy into crit heavy spam into hordes then

Just like using Warp-charged heavies into hordes because my blade doesn't get stuck

Especially when I'm surrounded, allows me to hit every enemy within range in an up to 360 degree angle depending on how well I can time the drag

[potent echo]

Illisi

[unreal wasp]

Having played Mordhau and Chivalry a lot makes spectating my gameplay obnoxious based on what a friend said when they died and were spectating

Especially on Ogryn

Slower swings mean you can more easily drag them

[potent echo]

Pickaxe drag is bonkers

[unreal wasp]

Pickaxe my beloved

Shield was my main weapon on Ogryn for a long time but pickaxe feels safer against melee

Fark your uninterruptable attack chains, get pulled

[potent echo]

I prefer branx but have been playing some karsolussy on glugger

Idk if torment is any good, might just replace it with thrust lmao

Or even slaught

[jovial juniper]

Torment is what? 3 stacks of thrust on special?

Might be handy on some combos

Unless thrust goes up to 60% power

If that's the case then thrust is definitely better

Still, could pair it on Branx for special heavy for horde clear

or just Thrust Slaughterer

[potent echo]

Lol not even close

It's just 20% power

Or 25

But you have the dps loss of having to do the special

Maybe on the karlussy you gotta special anyway to get to the heavy strikedown

But on the branx a proper 3 stack thrust H1 oneshots crushers with no fuss

[unreal wasp]

If Torment is the one that increases power on special attack it's p based
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733579797497643148/1255368048664379442/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_2024-06-25_23-43-31.mp4?ex=66bad69a&is=66b9851a&hm=b1dbfeacf8aa490f2f41881975abfdf538923d52bfa2256787c565628f6670eb&

[ashen schooner]

special pull does give another 10% damage boost

[unreal wasp]

By itself?

[ashen schooner]

yea gives a hidden 10% damage debuff on targets

[unreal wasp]

[potent echo]

Yea it does

But idk how long it lasts

And if bosses care

[clear bridge]

Torment seems like a Borovian beat for sure

[clear bridge]

With what setup? This number continues to baffle me

I need HH stacks to do it consistently 😦

[potent echo]

Yea HH and HT

Also crunch

With enough HH and HT you can skip crunch

Make sure it's a headshot ofc

I don't think I have +cara

[marsh prism]

praise be the omnissiah indeed

[potent echo]

Sick

[mossy oyster]

literally have this exact same setup except im on shield w/ voidstrike I havent tried it out yet though

[jovial juniper]

The psyker book doesn't mention it on the trauma section, but I'm fairly sure you can make a BoN spit your ally with the charged attack

[broken carbon]

idk about trauma but surge void can on a crit

[jovial juniper]

Something something explosive

[broken carbon]

actually idek if u need surge, i think just a normal voidstrike crit will do it

[jovial juniper]

Poor BoN was choking on its food

Had to heimlich

[ornate abyss]

Psyker is now the first character I've done all penances on

[broken carbon]

that smite psyker is soooo helpful

[ornate abyss]

Gotta stagger that beast of nurgle

[mossy oyster]

any tweaks can be made to this siblings?

[jovial juniper]

3 crushers off screen

[mossy oyster]

what im running with that build

also first time trying out DD and I get it now

[jovial juniper]

we lost that one

[mossy oyster]

and would it be worth trying to get purloin providence because assail peril spam or nah

[jovial juniper]

Nah, you can just quell

[mossy oyster]

i was just thinking of when im spamming assail and it hits a DD target that peril gone would be nice

only 1/4 chance though

[potent echo]

Yea it's no go

[mossy oyster]

ok let me post it all side by side so its more coherent

[mossy oyster]

ok swapped up to try this out instead with the same weapons

[sour bison]

damage <80%

🤣

[quartz barn]

I personally woudnt invest in assail at all and use those 2 points elsewhere

Simply because void can do everything on its own

You can make a case vs gunners, but you have barrier

[mossy oyster]

hmm well put sibling

[potent echo]

I haven't tried assail without the extra pen

Should be fine still?

[quartz barn]

Just dont use it lmao

[wind spruce]

Tweaked.

[wind spruce]

In all seriousness though, quietude is literally twice as good as warp expenditure

[wind spruce]

You're running flurry and surge, I love it. Super based.

[wind spruce]

Nah assail is absolutely great with void, and you need piercing shards

[wind spruce]

No it's garbage without

[wind spruce]

You can actually drop maniacs off of the duelling sword when you have DD. I like unyielding on an assail void build since monstrosities are your weak point

[grizzled sierra]

How should Grug aim voidstrike by the way? Usually just shoot at head, but maybe useful if shoot at ground too?

[wind spruce]

Depends if there's stuff behind what you're shooting at that you also want to hit

Aiming for heads often means aiming slightly upwards and not utilising the cleave

[halcyon gust]

It depends on your psyker height on that

[wind spruce]

True, you want max height for void

[halcyon gust]

If you tend to be a shorty then you need to aim a bit high

Tall you can aim at head level and play Warhammer bowling

[quartz barn]

Ideally you aim slightly above the head

Character height matters for multihits, but isnt that much of a dealbreaker tbh

[mossy oyster]

thank you for your thoughts sibling @wind spruce

so I should just remove assail points and quietude

[quartz barn]

Also remember that you can shoot right past cover to hit enemies hiding behind it

Quietude is extremely strong however

[mossy oyster]

i cant believe i must pay the barber to physically re adjust my bones for optimal void strike gameplay

pay to win

i like being shortsker

[quartz barn]

I think im mid height?

[mossy oyster]

its like being a gnome

i think I made my soyker slightly below mid height

[halcyon gust]

Max height Psyker

[mossy oyster]

didnt wanna be an actual goblin

[grizzled sierra]

Being small is fun until it make hitting heads harder

Grug have issues hitting plagryn heads sometimes

Or flesh blobs

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/crawly-meme-gnome-gnomes-gnome-vs-knight-gif-15913868200491032239

shortest psyker

[jovial juniper]

Relatable

[mossy oyster]

yea I was looking at it and I like quietude alot not sure where id put the other points into

[grizzled sierra]

How aggro work on monsties
Grug realize he end up having to dodge dance tank them most time as psyker

[mossy oyster]

if I got rid of it + the 2 assail points

[grizzled sierra]

Even as ogryn not have aggro so much

[mossy oyster]

ranged damage is separate from warp damage right

[wind spruce]

Do not remove assail

[mossy oyster]

ah so keep the enhanced assails?

hmm yea even with removing quietude im not quite sure where'd i slot this to replace it

[wind spruce]

Quietude is REALLY good

You want quietude over warp expenditure

[mossy oyster]

ah its warp expend im getting rid of

got them mixed up

[wind spruce]

Yup just swap them over then you're done

No more tweaking required

Oh wait, get rid of mind in motion

That shit is trash

[mossy oyster]

ah yea isnt it basically negated if you know how to quell slide right

[wind spruce]

Exactly

[mossy oyster]

the freedom to choose, but everything else is kinda whatever? i wanna say

[wind spruce]

+15 toughness is very good

People underestimate that

[mossy oyster]

ah the middle node right

yea I was contemplating on some extra toughness nodes

[wind spruce]

You can get two of them if you want

[mossy oyster]

cause psyker is a toughness battery

tbh

[wind spruce]

You have 120 base toughness that way

Add a couple of curios in and you're looking at 160+

Very stronk

[mossy oyster]

put the last 2 nodes in the bottom but contemplating swapping 5% peril generation for battle meditation

[wind spruce]

I'd just take another 15 toughness honestly

There's a node for it below perilous combustion

[mossy oyster]

yea my only other nodes are ranged dmg and toughness coherency regen

hmm i think 5% peril gen is very

negligible compared to +15 raw extra toughness

yea ill double down on extra toughness

[wind spruce]

Oh shit

I didn't realise you could get thr 5% ranged damage node

Definitely take that

[potent echo]

5 bercent ranged i sleep

15 toughness real shit

[wind spruce]

I'm a damage whore

[upper sun]

another day another dollar 🚬

[quartz barn]

Big damage hurts, so monster angy at you

[mossy oyster]

does it affect warped damage?

or like staff M1

[halcyon gust]

Welp. Seems like horse blinders must be on sale today. been getting alot of those players that don't pay attention to what's going on around them

[plucky flax]

Sorry it was me. 😔

[upper sun]

was it in sedation?

if it was that was me

[prisma oyster]

can a psyker be more tanky?

[upper sun]

no 😭

well kinda

you can stack some toughness dr

but then you wont have access to a bunch of really cool talents

[grizzled sierra]

grug starting to realize that maybe missions not harder than usual, but grug just worse at psyker than ogryn

[upper sun]

me at vet

[prisma oyster]

i play with a friend in private, and friend is more ranged player. so as a zealot it is just bad at times. so wanted to look if i could get a nice build that's tanky

[mossy oyster]

wait it feels bad that your friend is the ranged and ur the zealot ?

or did i mis read

[prisma oyster]

i am the psyker.
Friend is zealot.
friend plays more a ranged damage giver.

While i tend to play more frontline tankies.

[mossy oyster]

hmm shouldnt yall swap then?

zealot isnt ogryn in terms of frontline tank but hes frontline all the same

[grizzled sierra]

grug is in weird bind where cannot complete even one heresy mission

grug bad with fellow bad team

no good mix

grug last one alive and had beast o nurgle on 'im
not good
not good at all

[jovial juniper]

Lemme guess, boss + horde

[grizzled sierra]

and dogs

[halcyon gust]

BoN is the last thing you want to see in a solo clutch situation

[quartz barn]

I can handle the glubby pretty well solo, but spawn...

[potent echo]

it just takes forever if you dont have a gun vs bonbon

[halcyon gust]

Best source of DR Psyker has is one with the warp which requires to manage high peril to get the best value out of it

[lyric burrow]

BON depends on loadout and room

if its a shit spot to get around it then it can be really hard to get damage

if you didnt being a boss damage melee

[prisma oyster]

thanks, got a build i can try?

[quartz barn]

Bubble gaming, put him in timeout

[potent echo]

idk how safe you can melee a bonbon

[halcyon gust]

Which staff?

[lyric burrow]

its doable although more annoying solo cause he keeps turning to you

[potent echo]

i always melee bonbon in team setting

[lyric burrow]

real issue is just getting clipped by slime

[potent echo]

but solo hes gonna do the command grab unblockable

[lyric burrow]

cause then youd need knife or something to get away

[halcyon gust]

If you don't have shield at the time or it is on cool down

[quartz barn]

You can use terrain to avoid him too

Glubbys climb is super slow

And sometimes he gets lost because he's too big

[prisma oyster]

thought you meant a build and not a weapon.

[potent echo]

he might even get lost and try to take teleport door lmao

[halcyon gust]

One with the warp is one of the skill nodes Psyker has

[quartz barn]

For me glubby ends up climbing over fences lmao

And then jumps off?

[jovial juniper]

It goes sideways on stairs 💀

[lyric burrow]

yeah he freaks out on stairs

[potent echo]

in minecraft?

[grizzled sierra]

grug just blew up for first time

[wind spruce]

It should affect all your blitzes and all your ranged weapons, including staffs

[mossy oyster]

ok good to know cause I was curious about grabbing it

[wind spruce]

However it does not affect soulblaze ticks (and i assume the same applies to bleed and burn).

[mossy oyster]

oh another question sibling

with DD

the buff it gives

does that dmg apply to soulblaze ticks?

[wind spruce]

Yes

[mossy oyster]

excellent

[wind spruce]

I'd rather see a BoN than a chaos spawn when I'm solo on psyker

[halcyon gust]

True, but both suck to get when you're last man standing

[wind spruce]

I suppose, but depending on the map a BoN is super easy to just retreat from and dodge occasionally, especially once you get in the habit of baiting out the spew and dodging to the side instead of running away constantly

[halcyon gust]

My luck is BoN in a area with limited room to dodge most of the time or a nice juicy ledge to instantly remove another player or 2 with a tail slap

[grizzled sierra]

Grug always get BoN in tight corridor

[halcyon gust]

"Group is doing to well"
"BoN in a cramp ass area"

[wind spruce]

Practice staying as close as you can to it while still successfully dodging the spew

That way you limit its movement and how much area its denying

[grizzled sierra]

Grug also need practise on what do when surrounded as sparky

Especially when Assail is medium useful and void take while to charge

[wind spruce]

Assail is extremely useful when surrounded as it will reliably stagger everything short of an ogryn

You can use assail plus melee (or some ranged weapons) to kill/push your way through trash mobs and away from elites

[terse saffron]

which keystone is used more for voidstrike?

[wind spruce]

DD is the best keystone for voidstrike

[wind spruce]

This isn't necessarily a good showcase of what to do but it does show how much psyker can survive while surrounded lel

https://outplayed.tv/media/mnB3xe

[grizzled sierra]

Grug would panic so hard and die

[mossy oyster]

this is where the fun is grug

(i might be masochistic)

[terse saffron]

is it really that much more powerful than warp charges + true aim?

[mossy oyster]

very interesting blitz hud and dunno what the bars are for

[wind spruce]

Warp charges + true aim means you have to strip away a lot of other good talent choices

[wind spruce]

You mean the health bars?

[terse saffron]

that i did including sanctuary

[mossy oyster]

ah I assumed it was tied to your HP but then I saw normal HP in the bottom left and for some reason my brain thought no way he'd have 2 thats redundant

[wind spruce]

Ahh, yeah, it is redundant. I like having the character portrait so I haven't removed the normal one

[wind spruce]

Yeah exactly, it's rough. If you take DD instead you can pick up a lot of other good talents

Try this:

[terse saffron]

yeah the problem is all i really lose is crit magic damage talent because i dislike assail and the dome is just a "delete BoN" button at this point

[wind spruce]

What blitz are you using then

[terse saffron]

brain burst for psykinetic aura

[wind spruce]

You could do this.

Pretty unkillable with all that toughness and toughness regen.

[terse saffron]

i'll try that, thanks

[quartz barn]

Little tricky, but by far the best way to survive when surrounded in close corners is to dodge with the i frames you get

But yhis works for all classes

[halcyon gust]

And try to remain calm and try to make a path out

[quartz barn]

Sometimes you just get stuck, so a simple dodge to get away from an attack wont work

Focus on whatever has to be dodged, like crushers and maulers

A push followed by a dodge slide can usually make enough room to slide out

Or just get grabbed by a mutie and thrown out

Only thing that will guaranteed kill you are flamers, bombers and trappers

[halcyon gust]

And dogs. You forgot those assholes

[quartz barn]

Nah just push

You will be doing that anyway to get out

[halcyon gust]

Dogs will bullshit through it

[quartz barn]

Also, bubble counters everything here

Blocks grenades and fire, and evaporates the trapper's net

[halcyon gust]

True until it gets quickly overwhelmed

[quartz barn]

But tbh this is the only setup that relies on defense

Actual defense that is

[grizzled sierra]

grug take fire shout

usually help unless on cooldown

[quartz barn]

Run trauma, purg, surge, shout, assail or smite and you can stunlock whatever is in front of ypu

[halcyon gust]

Though you could be lucky be in a spot where you have few shooters having a bead on ou

[wind spruce]

Nah the one thing that dogs can't bullshit through is pushes, they added so much forgiveness to it

You can be facing the opposite way and it'll still get pushed

[halcyon gust]

Maybe I'm horribly unlucky with dogs

Or I don't think about attempting to push them

[wind spruce]

They often get me with bullshit short range leaps

[halcyon gust]

That too

Or you just about to melee them to kill them, but a teammate hits them causing to recoil out of range and then pounce on you

[quartz barn]

Run towards them to avoid that

Only thing you need to recognize is when theyre running directly at you as they wont stop to leap

[upper galleon]

Bringing void staff and then another witch brings trauma

Smh my head

[quartz barn]

And i almost always push regardless of what they do

[wind spruce]

True Chad psyker gaming is to run straight at the dog with your duelling sword and stab it in the face

[quartz barn]

So i dont get leapt on mid attack

[upper galleon]

Just constant back and forth annoying each other

[wind spruce]

If you slightly mistime it you're pinned

[wind spruce]

Psykers that bring void or trauma while I'm bringing trauma or void are just rude, frankly

[quartz barn]

Misstime my ass, i always trade in those scenarios

I hit the dog, which kills normally

[wind spruce]

A true joust

[quartz barn]

But get pounched on too, so it doesnt do dmg

Zzzzzzzzz

[wind spruce]

Yeah that does happen hahaha

[quartz barn]

I can literally hear the kill noise

However

True chad way to kill dogs is to slide stab with ds as they leap over you

[wind spruce]

Indeed

Sliding is next level of dog jousting

Final level is doing a 180 mid slide to stab the dog that just leapt past you off camera and you triangulated via sound only

[upper sun]

no final level is letting it bounce on you so your teammates have a clear shot

[wind spruce]

Teammates are bait/cannonfodder for me, not the other way around

[halcyon gust]

There will be a time the game decides you're the bait

And you shall like it

[wind spruce]

[mossy oyster]

the worst thing thats happened from a dog recently

i running heavy smack it after it runs into a wall

and it immediately just pounces me with no knockback

[lyric burrow]

I once pushed a hound and it immediately pounced again

[mossy oyster]

yep have had that happen too

[lyric burrow]

I was very sad

[mossy oyster]

they just decide when they feel like doing whatever

[quartz barn]

What the dog doin

[lyric burrow]

this is the example i remember

ik i missed i was still sad

[jovial juniper]

They are pushing you into a pounce
Muhfuh learned combos

[wind spruce]

That is utter bullshit

[lyric burrow]

yeah i was not pleased lol

[upper sun]

w i d e

[lyric burrow]

oh does it look weird for you

i do play on a 34 inch monitor

[upper sun]

yes

i unironically got a lot better when i switched from my wide monitor to my 4:3 one

[lyric burrow]

i cant imagine playing on a small monitor now

[wind spruce]

It just makes me jealous that I'm running the game on a 9 year old graphics card and a 24 inch monitor 😦

[upper sun]

if it works it works

[lyric burrow]

yeah

i used a macbook air to game for a long time

[upper sun]

besides when we finally upgrade we'll play better

imagine handicapping yourself for 2k hours

[wind spruce]

EXACTLY

We're already DA BEST

[lyric burrow]

it would be like a new world

[wind spruce]

We'll become DA BESTEST

[grizzled sierra]

Grug come to conclusion that bad spark 'ead

Is real fun though

[upper sun]

its okay i cant get the hang of vet

even doing weeklies

if i play ogryn and zealot for a while i stop being able to play psyker for a couple of games

[grizzled sierra]

Then again Sparky Grug only level 21
So can argue not full potential

[wind spruce]

Oh, dude, you should absolutely give yourself a break and reserve any judgement on your skill or the class until you've played for dozens of hours at level thirty

Psyker (from what I hear) is particularly tough to play below level 30

[terse saffron]

psyker is the only class that can just disregard stamina as a game mechanic

[wind spruce]

Just keep rolling with the punches and having fun

[wind spruce]

Yep, being able to spam push willy nilly and regen stam during a slide is so good

Plus our insanely low dodge cooldown

[terse saffron]

the amount of hoops vet has to jump through to only get the slides out of this is kind of amusing

[restive ice]

insert “look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power” gif here

[terse saffron]

yeah wish they didnt split trench fighter drill attack speed bonus into weapon specialist

this keystone is jank incarnate

[grizzled sierra]

Grug no judge class
Grug judge personal skill

[quartz barn]

tbf vet is good as long as you dont use the movement aura / sharpshooter abil + keystone

either make yourself unkillable or the entire team ultra buffed and every run is easy mode

psyker looks cool sure but thats only because everyone goes glass cannon

the amount of people ive seen that cant even manage peril

[terse saffron]

anything that isnt executioner stance build feels like a worse zealot with ammo regen aura

[terse saffron]

well theres not really a lot of tdr options available so the bulking path is kinda limited

[grizzled sierra]

Maybe that why Grug struggle
Is used to being a tank

[terse saffron]

well you got infinite blocking if that counts

even includes ranged damage if you're willing to nerf your sword by putting deflector on it

[grizzled sierra]

Grug use Duelling Sword, not k kw if get deflector

[jovial juniper]

Deflector makes me think you struggle with ranged enemies
If that's the case, take cover, make sure to check all corners, clear ranged and move forward
If you have a staff you can use your bolts to kill+suppress since everyone is scared of the Warp

Even Reapers will cower

[wind spruce]

Well don't judge your skill either

Level 21 is still taking your babysteps

[grizzled sierra]

you right
grug was disappointed in self because not as good as when play ogryn, when have played ogryn way more

[wind spruce]

And presumably your ogryn has a full build and decent weapons

You can barely even get a keystone on psyker yet

[grizzled sierra]

true

grug not think of that

[wind spruce]

Just spam assail at everything

Grug feel better then

[grizzled sierra]

grug find spamming voidstrike more fun
usually use assail when scattered enemies or have to get out of horde

[wind spruce]

Spamming void also work gud

[lyric burrow]

this is the way

if you want to simply win that is

[stiff falcon]

Any one of you this psyker?

[upper sun]

nope no self respecting person would be allowed to post here with sub 200 plasteel

[stiff falcon]

He was too busy carrying two useless players

[upper sun]

oh wow didnt notice the damage

ok pass

but nah i dont recognize the name

[stiff falcon]

Pearl was a late joiner

Forced him to join to prevent a two man

[upper sun]

scoreboard should show type of plasteel picked up tbh someone picking up 10 small ones shouldnt feel like they did less than someone who picked up 2 big ones

[stiff falcon]

No

Amount

[upper sun]

no

effort is what matters

[unreal wasp]

Pressing F and spamming Warp-charped and Crit heavies

[stiff falcon]

0 plasteel collected, the psyker special

[unreal wasp]

I picked up a relic

[lyric burrow]

not that im aware of

[unreal wasp]

Didn't pick up ammo either even though I was using bolt pistol

Veteran kept me fed

Actually didn't pick up ANYTHING

No time for items

Only KILL

Melee Psyker gotta be at the frontline 100% of the time with drool foaming out of the corners of my mouth

[manic river]

Found the doctors

[broken carbon]

710k damage with an obscurus is impressive

[stiff falcon]

He was using m1 on the staff for damage

Pretty funny to watch

[broken carbon]

oh i think ive run into that guy then

running the macro for it

[stiff falcon]

EU

[broken carbon]

oh

lmfao

nvm

stupid europeans

[stiff falcon]

I run US East past midnight UK time

When EU is dead

[upper sun]

for which staff purge?

[stiff falcon]

Trauma

[upper sun]

nice

i wanna run an entire game thats just purge lmb macro and a zealot that shit would be so funny\

[grizzled sierra]

Nothing top feeling of funneling horde thru small passage and going ham with voidstrike

[halcyon gust]

When you see 3 knife users in the pre-game lobby. You know you're in for a good time

[grizzled sierra]

Or a really bad one

[lethal lagoon]

Like this?

My favorite.

[upper sun]

EARN YOUR BLESSINGS

RIGHT NOW

[lethal lagoon]

https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1158835513789272126/1195165507272331265

[lethal lagoon]

No, I'm going to experience the new crafting system how it's meant to be

[upper sun]

dont link dorn builds with smite hes allergic

[lethal lagoon]

Are you calling me a "nerd" after spending 100s of hours farming blessings to get a minor advantage in the next patch?

[upper sun]

non psykers dont understand that it simply picked for the cdr talent and never ued

[upper sun]

yes

im gonna have all the crafting xp while u have to grind all over again

[lethal lagoon]

That's literally the game.

Like you are playing the game not to play the game

[upper sun]

i also pent like 10k diamantine reblessing bricks

[upper sun]

everything other than the combat sucks

[lethal lagoon]

That....

Is accurate

[upper sun]

ive been reblessing so much shit now

i have so many weapons with perks like stamina and groaners i just rebless everything to good t4s even if it had a good t3 before hand

im gonna interact so little with hadron after the update its gonna be great

[grizzled sierra]

grug like hadron

she part of cool organization

[lethal lagoon]

So there's 20 levels of mastery. How much you wanna bet full blessing collections only give 5 levels

[stiff falcon]

300k plasteel

[upper galleon]

10 probably

for a truly complete collection

much like penances, my guess is that returning players will be around the halfway mark, so they have a headstart but still have to interact with the new system

anyways, best build for leveling pskyer? I'm going dclaw+assail rn

[brazen rampart]

That's probably the best.

That and a zarona.

Gunker is the true path.

[restive ice]

lvl 10 trauma

[upper galleon]

trauma sucks with bad stats i remember that

[brazen rampart]

Trauma just sucks.

Cringe and stupid weapon.

[upper galleon]

last time i level'd psyker we still had feats

[grizzled sierra]

Grug leveling with DS and voidstrike
is fun!

[radiant frigate]

it is a bit tupid yeah

[stuck shoal]

there was a time i was playing as ogryn and had that situation, the only was I could clutch was run to my captured teammates

[radiant frigate]

because it effectively replaces your melee

[stuck shoal]

the only wAy*

[stuck shoal]

for me only purgatus or laspistol, everything else I suck at using

[prisma oyster]

can i ask you what buld ytou use?

[remote bloom]

I mean, if you're going to use Obscurus, then it's a way I guess

[radiant frigate]

or deimos

or any dueling sword

or k-nif

[remote bloom]

You mean london arm augment

[stuck shoal]

dueling sword is when my peril is high or for anything carapace

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[stuck shoal]

laspistol burn meat

so does purg

i love fire

[radiant frigate]

also, or really anything other than illisi

[stuck shoal]

except the zealot flamer it's too clunky

[radiant frigate]

nothing else in the psyker melee roster is main weapon material

[remote bloom]

Illsi enthusiast

[radiant frigate]

illisi abuser to some

[stuck shoal]

that's good I think it priorotizes using power

like staves and such

[radiant frigate]

it is simply a different style

[stuck shoal]

Idk if you might consider blocking bullets with your sword a main power tho

[radiant frigate]

bottom line is though, i picked psyker for sword wizard

emphasis on the sword part

[remote bloom]

Kat uses magic to empower her swording

[stuck shoal]

then use a force sword and block bullets that's the best way to feel like sword wizard

[radiant frigate]

unchained but squishy

love me some magically enhanced melee combat

[stuck shoal]

literally

[radiant frigate]

also i think that blockign bullets should be a baseline function of force swords

your block is projecting a force field, for god's sake

but nooo

have to give up a blessing slot for that

[stuck shoal]

Yes I agree

also assail would have been cooler if it was controlling others bullets midair and redirecting but that's just me

or give us force guns

[radiant frigate]

assail would also be cooler if you could just summon a bunch at once

like the soulmass/glintblade phalanx family of spells from souls/ER

[stuck shoal]

the way it spams is enough for me personally

i could see sending all 10 at the same time and putting you at 100 peril immediately tho

would be funny

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[stuck shoal]

but I get it

it's supposed to be not for single target

[brazen rampart]

Oh if they replaced the rmb of assail with crystal homing soulmass from dark souls, it would go so fucking hard.

[stuck shoal]

anything not ogryn sized really

[radiant frigate]

real

whatever rounds the corner next just gets absolutely obliterated

sent straight back to hel

[stuck shoal]

basically is how I play is, always dueling sword for crushers, and like any elite that im nearby, use assail to get peril, lasgun to get manifest destiny or whatever it's called oh and for reapers and bosses

I don't use dueling sword for bosses I like stacking inferno

laspistol*

[restive ice]

what if you stack infernus then stab them to make monstrosity kebab

[stuck shoal]

if I get close enough yeah

I already have the zealot doing that

[brazen rampart]

They should make a node for assail that spawns a dart when you get a crit.

[radiant frigate]

infernus bp zealot so you can fry BoN from the front

[stuck shoal]

too op

my crit chance is so high dude

[grizzled sierra]

is it just grug or do Hadron like spark 'ead more than ogryn

[brazen rampart]

The restrictions would be that it can only occur once every 20s and cannot occur above 50% peril.

[restive ice]

hadron likes everyone besides your firstborn

[stuck shoal]

we smarter and relatable

ogryns are tools really

[restive ice]

[grizzled sierra]

grug remind you he can crunch your head with hand

and will

[stuck shoal]

yes

[grizzled sierra]

if keep up that

[radiant frigate]

spark'ead remind you that we can crunch your mind with our mind

[stuck shoal]

grug you are exception

[radiant frigate]

but grug is friend

so we do not do that

[stuck shoal]

you are special amazing

[grizzled sierra]

[stuck shoal]

smartest biggest strongest ogryn

[brazen rampart]

Hadron doesn't like anybody.

Unless you are the physical manifestation of the Omnissiah, she does not care.

[stuck shoal]

cybernetics enthusiasts

[grizzled sierra]

grug got brain implant, that count?

[brazen rampart]

No.

[stuck shoal]

why don't you ask her grug

[grizzled sierra]

[brazen rampart]

Its alright, Sweet Brute. She will appreciate us, in time.

[grizzled sierra]

Hadron scary, threaten turn grug into servitor

or maybe offer?
newver seen ogryn servitor

[brazen rampart]

Neither have I, come to think of it.

[stuck shoal]

odd

[brazen rampart]

They must not have machine spirits mighty enough to pull it off!

[stuck shoal]

I don't think any ogryn is DUMB enough to anger hadron anyway

[grizzled sierra]

silly frog, human no have machine spirit

only holy machine do

[queen fog]

There ain’t enough incense in the world to keep a ogryn servitor up for long (source:I made it up )

[brazen rampart]

No, but the machines they use to turn you into a servitor do.

[stuck shoal]

the omnissiah is inside my cybernetic toes

[tribal girder]

is it just me, or the psyker keystone buff icons display incorrectly?

[stuck shoal]

and the crowd goes wild

[stuck shoal]

IDK

[tribal girder]

A lot of the time, it doesnt show me how many stacks of keystones i have, even though i clearly are getting stacks. This only happens in match not psykanium

[stuck shoal]

do you have any mods

[restive ice]

yes disrupt destiny has a display bug

[strong gulch]

Not just you. It's a know problems and not a just a psyker issue.

[stuck shoal]

oop

I never noticed cuz

i use dd

weird

[tribal girder]

I have many mods, but I heard some people have that issue too so I was wondering.

[restive ice]

i just don't look at the stacks anyways

[restive ice]

well if you use this one you can have a workaroud
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/239

[stuck shoal]

yeah i have tunnel vision when i play honestly I never look down there I have everything on the center of my screen in. aspecial bat

bar

a special bar

cool mod called blit bar

[tribal girder]

It's not just dd for me, also the other two. It doesn't always happen but it is annoying

[strong gulch]

I don't look at stacks either lol.

[stuck shoal]

I only do for piety

[tribal girder]

I never figured out how to use that one

[stuck shoal]

try blitz bar

[narrow herald]

Psykers in chat

We live in a Psykanium 😔

[restive ice]

1 open the menu
2 create a new bar
3 select the buffs you want to priorijtize in the list (they're named like how it is in the code but have the same icons)
4 use the dropdown menu to select the new bar you created
5 add the selected buffs to the new bar
6 use custom hud to move the new bar somewhere

[lethal lagoon]

[restive ice]

i'd go more in depth but i'm fucking a printer right now

[lethal lagoon]

Sounds like you are already in depth

[restive ice]

ayy

[narrow herald]

U don't like KD? 😔😔😔😔

[lethal lagoon]

I almost am never in a position where I need to use it, so yeah.

[upper sun]

watch ur back if i ever catch you in quickplay ur getting barreled

[ornate hamlet]

sus

[lethal lagoon]

Plus if I take it on and off I get confused

[ornate hamlet]

then keep it on

mf

[lethal lagoon]

[stiff falcon]

You can’t keep pace with me

[upper sun]

im not taking that bet all t4s would get yoyu everything

[lethal lagoon]

[narrow herald]

[upper sun]

hate finds away

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-gif-1834222127792525549

[lethal lagoon]

I guess it's a nice DH back up or if I want to rez an idiot, but I'd rather not deal with either of those things.

[stiff falcon]

If you ever wanna play easy knife zealot I gotchu a build

[upper sun]

my armor is contempt, my shield is disgust my boot are rage etc

[narrow herald]

Isn't that just the build 90% of zealots use?

Regardless of weapons

[strong gulch]

I just leave KD on. I can't remember if I have or not otherwise. Even with the little icon.

RIP everytime I try to res someone on zealot and am shocked that it didn't work.

[stiff falcon]

No

[narrow herald]

Yes

[upper sun]

right side with holy rev duelist and trbs wow so creative

[narrow herald]

Well "good" zealots

[tribal girder]

You won't be rezing anybody without kinetic deflection, unless you think everyone is an idiot

[stiff falcon]

90% of players will path into crit cdr

[narrow herald]

No? Especially since crit cdr got nerfed?

[restive ice]

because they is

[upper sun]

nah i will only play rashad until it gets nerfed

[restive ice]

i am everyone

[stiff falcon]

Cringe

[upper sun]

sorry not sorry

[narrow herald]

Why can't Fatshark let me have fun? 😔

I want my perma invisible build back

[stuck shoal]

yeah true I even unawaringly went crit cdr choir and infinitely make me and my team invincible

[narrow herald]

Why would anyone want to unironically go book? 🤮

[stuck shoal]

i hate pox gas

[tribal girder]

Book is goated you are just unaware

[stuck shoal]

I don't play zealot much anyway

[stuck shoal]

elaboration

[narrow herald]

Pox Gass easiest modifyer tho

Free health boosters

[stuck shoal]

yeah even better when the whole team can ignore the modifier cuz we can just walk through

if I play i like support

[narrow herald]

Just keep moving? You need to keep moving anyways on Aurics

[stuck shoal]

keeping on moving can be annoying when there is pox gas

this is how we can keep moving

it works really well for me

[narrow herald]

Nah there is no "support" class in Darktide.

You can "support" the team by killing everything 😎

[stuck shoal]

exactly

wait what

you can literally spec into support

on every class

psyker is bubble shield, zealot is book, vet is shout, and ogryn is taunt

[narrow herald]

No just sit in the gaps, where the pox isn't in the area. If it is, move forward

[stiff falcon]

People who play “support” in tide games

[grizzled sierra]

its surprisingly funny to constantly edge my sparkheads Peril for the extra damage

[tribal girder]

First of all, gold toughness is a busted mechanic. Giving your whole team 100 gold toughness allows all the aggressive full damage builds to go ham at all times.

Second, it's one of the few things in the game that can stagger nurgle bless enemies, also chain stagger normal bosses.

[narrow herald]

Truuuuuu

[stiff falcon]

Aka dead weight

[restive ice]

oh nice i almost missed the weekly "support build" discussion

[tribal girder]

"support"builds can easily do highest dmg

[stuck shoal]

yeah obviously

I wasn't saying otherwise

[tribal girder]

Not as easy as max dmg builds like gunker, but very possible

[narrow herald]

I don't really treat the abilities like bubble, shout, or book as "support" I treat them as utility

[stuck shoal]

I guess we define support differently

[narrow herald]

I don't use shield for exmaple to "protect" my team, I use it to control areas for my trauma or purge staff short range

[stuck shoal]

that's fine

[narrow herald]

Nah, don't "help" your team, worry about yourself first

You can't control your teamates

This isn't a wow raid run where you can taunt the boss

[stuck shoal]

wdym if you are in a VC with them

i am most of the time

[tribal girder]

It's like a meme trigger word, cuz lower skilled players tend to subscribe to being support and not do damage, becoming a dead weight

[stuck shoal]

oh lmao

[narrow herald]

Yeah, people care more about "helping the team" but end up doing nothing

[stuck shoal]

I obviously don't literally focus just that

it's just useful to have in bad situations

I agree

[tribal girder]

The trick is to apply buff/cc enemies while also doing massive damage. Realizing the main pillars of builds and not leave gaping holes as weakness in your set up

[narrow herald]

The closest thing to a "support" in this game is maybe shout vet. But shout's ability to CC and reset toughness is insane for the VET as well

[stuck shoal]

^

[tribal girder]

On higher difficulties like some monster green maelstrom, defensive builds get way more value

[narrow herald]

The issue I have with book is that it provides nothing to the Zealot

[stuck shoal]

immunity it does

go rusing into horde knock over enemies

[narrow herald]

No because you can't damage anything while you are using it

[prisma oyster]

Thank ya kindly

[tribal girder]

It kinda does. It gives you all the buffs as well, you can also dive gun lines with it like a purgatus

[narrow herald]

You need to be killing shit as a Zealot, if I wanted something to reset agro I would rather just use stealth

Also furry also gives u toughness back, and mobility, and CC, and damage/speed buff

[stuck shoal]

man as long as I have fun and I'm pulling me and the team through does it really fuckin matter

[tribal girder]

You are only thinking about yourself. Your teammates get no buffs from the other abilities, and fury's cc is no where close to book.

[upper sun]

man i remember seeing a post on reddit "woah snipers are crazy" while it just a relic zealot chanting under a downed teammate unable to do anything

[stuck shoal]

you can cancel book

[upper sun]

bruh either stealth revive or chastise and kill the sniper

[narrow herald]

OK so u CC the horde, now what?

[stuck shoal]

people who don't in bad situatioons are just stupi

[narrow herald]

You can't revive

You can't do damage

[stuck shoal]

the horde is knocked down you have time to revive

[narrow herald]

You can't revive when you are using book

[upper sun]

like relic would be nice in pox gas i guess

[narrow herald]

And if a teamate is trying to revive that's another person not putting damage into the horde

[upper sun]

but otherwise just use a stun grenade if you wanna cc stuff

[stuck shoal]

but in most cases you don't need to revive because your team is always invincible

[upper sun]

let the ult actually do damage

[narrow herald]

10 seconds is nothing my dude

[stuck shoal]

o haven't had to revive one of my team in so long

[narrow herald]

Especially with a 60 cooldown ultimate