Not sis. Bro is good tho. 
#psyker-class
strong gulch
pine holly
With this build I use assail to build a ton of peril 67% is good, then unleash the bolt pistol
fiery wigeon
i JUST use assail 70% of the time with builds like that
upper sun
i use assail at 101% then die
halcyon gust
I don't use guns on Psyker 
strong gulch
and sword 20% of the time
same 😂
halcyon gust
If I want to shoot stuff. I got Vet to do gun shooty things
strong gulch
Typing "i forgor" as I got down.
fiery wigeon
I'm shifting over to doing surge or voidstrike with a standard gunker build and using scriers for swords only
wild night
I don't use guns on Psyker <:inosukek:781457514331111434>
You WILL use guns for Psyker.
halcyon gust
You WILL use guns for Psyker.
Instructions uncleared. Threw guns away for Plasteel
wild night
Damn...
late sapphire
I keep having rounds where i do as much damage as the entire combined team and then i go down and we instantly lose
upper sun
You WILL use guns for Psyker.
oops queued up as zealot
if i wanna use guns ill play vet or zealot
upper galleon
Instructions uncleared. Threw guns away for Plasteel
Partially entitlement, partially ego
pine holly
Yeah I'll be honest minus big armoured enemies I'm mostly just using Assail
jovial juniper
cough cough
fiery wigeon
Yeah I'll be honest minus big armoured enemies I'm mostly just using Assail
assail is busted like that lol
upper sun
Partially entitlement, partially ego
70% PERIL, 10% LUCK, 20% SKILL
or however it went
halcyon gust
Partially entitlement, partially ego
I hate the idea of using guns as Psyker. That's all
fiery wigeon
*cough* *cough*
oh neat
jovial juniper
explains how data mined stuff doesn't always make it to the final product
wild night
oops queued up as zealot
Funny how the fish designed a gameplay loop around melee and shooting and Zealot only needs to melee.
late sapphire
Easily
ornate hamlet
toothpick
upper sun
Funny how the fish designed a gameplay loop around melee and shooting and Zealot...
man people keep throwing tantrums when i explain that darktide is HYBRID combat and you should be able to play full missions playing either 90% melee or 90% ranged
fiery wigeon
?
upper sun
i have full games on zealot where i never pick up ammo
and games on psyker where i only pull out the ds4 for muties and dogs
fiery wigeon
i mean idk if you should be making a full level with 90% using gun
late sapphire
i have a lot of games on psyker where i never pick up ammo
strong gulch
Yeah but IDK what they can take out the big armoured dudes
If you're doing guns, your crusher killer is sword.
fiery wigeon
thats a lot of ammos
halcyon gust
man people keep throwing tantrums when i explain that darktide is HYBRID combat ...
On Psyker and Vet. I tend to be 85% range and 15% melee. Ogryn is 85% Melee. 15% range. On average
pine holly
radiant frigate
ranged 🤢
melee ✅
upper sun
On Psyker and Vet. I tend to be 85% range and 15% melee. Ogryn is 85% Melee. 15%...
yeah same only i dont play vet often 
fiery wigeon
i dont have a vet leveled
upper sun
ranged 🤢
melee ✅
Melee on ogryn and zealot is just more fun
radiant frigate
Melee on ogryn and zealot is just more fun
ogryn melee is snooze
upper sun
yeahh
halcyon gust
Vet is my most played class by a long shot. Followed by Ogryn and then psyker
upper sun
but you press F sometimes
fiery wigeon
i have a zealot i got to like 15 before i got hooked on psyker like some sort of psychic drug addict
pine holly
just posted all my tallents
halcyon gust
Zealot....Is just there for more shots at the "Universal" weapon blessings
analog agate
Yep. Nowadays gun psyker is assail/melee psycher with some shooting
upper sun
Zealot....Is just there for more shots at the "Universal" weapon blessings
nuh uhhh
zealot is FUN
radiant frigate
most of my time is on psyker
upper sun
F U N
fiery wigeon
Yep. Nowadays gun psyker is assail/melee psycher with some shooting
yeah
radiant frigate
followed by vet
halcyon gust
Zealot doesn't click with me
fiery wigeon
assail is unnervingly strong for general use
radiant frigate
friendship ended with vet
upper sun
for me zealot/psyker then ogryn and then rarely vet
radiant frigate
ogryn is 100% dead last for me
upper sun
rashad is just too much fun on zealot
fiery wigeon
i really should play ogryn and vet at some point
and finish leveling my zealot lol
but ive got a badass cape on my psyker so now i dont wanna swap to undripped losers
halcyon gust
The levels of all my classes with True level
strong gulch
Seems fine. Puppet master might help for easier coherency chaining.
I don't know much about bolt tho.
radiant frigate
i also really do not like rashad
upper sun
i also really do not like rashad
MODS
late sapphire
The levels of all my classes with True level
whats the double arrow thing mean
wild night
Speaking of drip, the Ogryn penances are some of the most enjoyable penances to complete.
halcyon gust
whats the double arrow thing mean
How many Prestige levels (Like going from 0-30)
late sapphire
hm
analog agate
Ogryn, from a meta standpoint, is last as a class goes imo
fiery wigeon
the most unenjoyable part of psyker penances is the overrepresentation of brain burst
halcyon gust
Speaking of drip, the Ogryn penances are some of the most enjoyable penances to ...
Lot of Ogryns boils down to "Do this action you're doing anyways"
radiant frigate
Speaking of drip, the Ogryn penances are some of the most enjoyable penances to ...
why yes i love being forced to shoot bullets until i randomly get them for free 5000 times
late sapphire
shoot bullets lol
pine holly
which staff would I want
radiant frigate
let me just delay extraction because i have to empty all my ammo before leaving the mission
very interactive
fiery wigeon
which staff would I want
they each serve different purposes
radiant frigate
oh look someone dropped an ammo box so let me just stay here for another three minutes
halcyon gust
"Such as chuck rocks at specials and elits" "Maintain max stacks of heavy hitter and kill 5000 enemies"
radiant frigate
exciting for the rest of the team
strong gulch
which staff would I want
Depends. They are all good.
Void is most like guns.
halcyon gust
And then you ahve the stinker called 4500 BLO procs
pine holly
considering assail is my longer range/chaff killer
analog agate
Purg is easiest staff. Also worst. But outside of the meta on aurics that doesn’t matter
fiery wigeon
trauma and purg are crowd clear and void and surge are single target
radiant frigate
i would not consider void single target
pine holly
do i want void or ssurge
fiery wigeon
void has the absurd cleave but a notable portion of its power is doing a morbillion damage to weakpoint
yeah surge is easier
radiant frigate
void has the absurd cleave but a notable portion of its power is doing a morbill...
funny crusher onetaps
fiery wigeon
i would take both for a spin in meat grinder
pine holly
either way theres only a trauma staff in shop[
fiery wigeon
oh right normal people use brunt's main shop
you can get whatever weapon you want with no perks from brunts armory
late sapphire
He might be low level?
wild night
why yes i love being forced to shoot bullets until i randomly get them for free ...
The majority of Ogryn penances are by and large better.
fiery wigeon
lucky ogryns
radiant frigate
The majority of Ogryn penances are by and large better.
yeah because i just listed the worst one
fiery wigeon
dont have to equip brain burst to do half the penances they have
wild night
I know.
radiant frigate
do you hate brain burst or something
fiery wigeon
yes
radiant frigate
i wanna say bubble and EP penances were the worst on psyker
late sapphire
Our zealot just triggered a demonhost - moment later, a pogryn spawns. My mates leave me alone to fight it and go to kill the dh. I end up relying on a mutie to grab me out of tough spots. The zealot shows up again, shoots the mutie, dies
fucking zels man
fiery wigeon
Our zealot just triggered a demonhost - moment later, a pogryn spawns. My mates ...
this happened in a match i was playin yesterday
dh gets triggered and i think it was a pogryn spawned
mightve been a slug
strong gulch
@pine holly
Surge is lighting with forgivng aim some CC and single target damage. Good for specials and scattered shooters. Supplement with horde management.
Purg is great on hordes with good stagger on the primary / LMB. Weak against crushers. Take a single target option with it.
Trauma is a generalist weapon that is great at aoe and CC. Kill many targets but takes longer than void. scattered shooters can be annoying.
Void is also a generals is but is best at single target. It has decent CC, but can also get a overwhelms if surrounded by a horde. It can also be slow on charges. True aim is assume from the talent tree and it works great with DD.
fiery wigeon
i think surge is the easiest one to use well
purg also pretty easy
they both have the downside of hard capped range though
late sapphire
purg is easiest
strong gulch
If you are low on mats, I recommend building surge or purg for staves.
I do want to point out that the newer maps can be harder to manage the the older maps, so that might be part of the survivability issue.
pine holly
I have a lot of money
analog agate
What is your definition of a lot of money?
strong gulch
Trying out the different staves in the meat grinder might make it easier to pick what to build first.
Fair warning, low rolled trauma staff feels like GARBAGE.
fiery wigeon
can confirm
low roll trauma staff when i was like level 10 turned me off the staff hard and i havent touched it since lol
ornate hamlet
Do you think it traumatized you
strong gulch
low roll trauma staff when i was like level 10 turned me off the staff hard and ...
That was me for a long time. It's so bad.
late sapphire
corus best staff
fiery wigeon
lolll
pine holly
still trying to do heresy
fiery wigeon
still trying to do heresy
u got this bro
pine holly
I'm already dead
upper sun
thats okay next time will be easier
fiery wigeon
damn
wild night
Keep playing.
radiant frigate
corus best staff
war crime
wild night
late sapphire
war crime
argue with the 20 coruscations i put down in the time it took you to write that message
wild night
Guilty pleasure.
radiant frigate
argue with the 20 coruscations i put down in the time it took you to write that ...
thank you for making my point for me
upper sun
they should add stupid but fun weapons that either do crazy damage or no damage but make them only available for custom games
late sapphire
God i miss coruscation staff
pine holly
got picked up and immidiatly insta killed
upper sun
lore accurate storm bolter
late sapphire
That thing just got better with difficulty
upper sun
i want ALL flame swords from vt2 ported
upper sun
soulblaze on heavy 🤤
jovial juniper
Graia Autogun
upper sun
100% no
jovial juniper
upper sun
upper sun
Tac axe II?
okie
lethal lagoon
low roll trauma staff when i was like level 10 turned me off the staff hard and ...
A tale as old as time(2 years)
pine holly
ok so might need others to come help me
jovial juniper
upper sun
jovial juniper
I'm not clueful on what's a good taxe
upper sun
highest rated one
upper sun
I'm not clueful on what's a good taxe
i'm just hoarding bases idc either
itll eventually get buffed
jovial juniper
Hope so, they feel too good for being so eh
pine holly
then the team blames me for the fail because you know I'm dead99% of the time
empty bloom
i dont think i will ever understand surge force staff, either im using it wrong, or its a pretty bad staff with nothing interesting
its supposed to chain lightning on charge attack, but i barely call that a chain
haughty star
It needs really balanced stats to thrive
jovial juniper
You deal 1000+ damage to the first target and like 250 to the second
haughty star
And yeah it's not like instant gratification. It'll drop most specials in one or two hits but what it won't hit it will stagger and it's always doing damage to shit around your target so it's not terrible lol
late sapphire
If your lightning connects and the main target dies, the secondary targets gets full damage instead
empty bloom
its just really bad imo, the damage isnt the best, the lockon can be annoying, and the weapon has no interesting blessings
late sapphire
skill issue
empty bloom
weapon is trash
empty bloom
then tell me how to use it
late sapphire
right click left click duh
late sapphire
im mid round
analog agate
Surge is second best staff…
late sapphire
Surge is very reliant on talents
haughty star
My favorite staff tbh
empty bloom
what talents should i be using?
analog agate
Surge is second best staff with left sided tree *
zinc atlas
Hi guys. I'm trying to figure out which of my builds is performing better and also which weapon roll. I've been using scoreboard but it lacks the damage breakdown that I'd like in order to understand. I've seen ovenproof has some more detailed stats but I read in the nexus comments that it's outdated and also that there's some errors popping that crash the game? Any alternatives or feedback if the above is true? Thanks
orchid shadow
The lock on is one of it's main benefits, and by design you're trading some damage for almost immediately CCing anything that isn't a boss or a mutant without a crit. Only the blessings part is true, and I get the feeling that Psyker Staves are the last thing on FS's list of things to do.
analog agate
Hi guys. I'm trying to figure out which of my builds is performing better and al...
You can use his other plugin. It isn’t as smooth as scoreboard. But very customizable and detailed
late sapphire
Ok so lock on in a crowd is hard you have to hop a lil to reliable hit elites
If you get it down you can pick out elites n specials out of arbitrarily large hordes though
Its shit vs hordes outside of lmb spam which is okish
boss damage ok
single specials instadie, groups of elites n specials you kill a few n the rest melt via PC
mental rock
Hi guys. I'm trying to figure out which of my builds is performing better and al...
powerdi is great for stat breakdowns and you can go very in depth
orchid shadow
PowerDI is my go to now. I love the fact that it saves the loadouts and talents of everyone in your games so you can look back and see what everyone is using.
late sapphire
you quick swap cancel your lightning to get quick kills n casts off
1 mil dmg or whatever rauma guy was boasting about is doable on longer matches
orchid shadow
1 mil dmg or whatever rauma guy was boasting about is doable on longer matches
To be fair, you're not doing that solely with Surge, your blitz is going to do some heavy lifting to push over the 1mil mark as a Surge user.
late sapphire
shriek & pc does the lifting
pine holly
x-x ok void staff ain't great
late sapphire
like half of my damage is soulblaze
zinc atlas
powerdi is great for stat breakdowns and you can go very in depth
Thanks 🙂
late sapphire
that & barreling the zealot
means everyone else does about 33% more damage in total
subscribe to my onlypsychs for more useful tips
orchid shadow
like half of my damage is soulblaze
Oh yeah I forgot definitely that. 😛 Shriek soulblaze spam accounting for so much damage for 1-click? Yes please.
strong gulch
I don't like void, but it has serious output.
lethal lagoon
shriek & pc does the lifting
You could argue that Surge allows PC and shriek to shine
analog agate
1 mil dmg or whatever rauma guy was boasting about is doable on longer matches
If your team is bad enough you can do it in a normal 25-30 min match. I got a 1 mil dmg game with my surge/smite build last month
late sapphire
as i said, just barrel the zealot(s)
2 players = 2x damage
think abt it
jk the actual secret to surge is to steal every kill
zinc atlas
To be fair, you're not doing that solely with Surge, your blitz is going to do s...
On that topic as I'm also using surge which I can't seem to put down: What blitz do you take with it? I'm feeling that both BB and assail kind of fulfil the same purpose as surge staff (not to mention that assail route takes me to some shitty nodes so I'm using smite. Although I find that smite get's used very rarely ( like a bug patrol of armored enemies). Any other blitz that you suggest?
late sapphire
its uniquely good at that, equal to the plasma gun
and if you get all of the elite kills you get all of the pc soulblaze and therefore all te damage
charged right click attak + quell cancel = ~1000 damage on demand to any enemy within 24ft
ornate hamlet
Hi guys. I'm trying to figure out which of my builds is performing better and al...
Your eye is the best tool you have for it, I'd say
ornate hamlet
How many hits it took you to kill an enemy, what buffs you have, how consistently you're getting the buffs, as well as testing weapons in the psykhanium to see if they're not garbage
upper galleon
On that topic as I'm also using surge which I can't seem to put down: What blitz...
all of them work with surge but i prefer smite with surge, just use your m1 bolts for farther away enemies
pine holly
well with my ton of money I've started getting blessings
orchid shadow
On that topic as I'm also using surge which I can't seem to put down: What blitz...
Depends on your playstyle, really. On good teams, things will die so fast that Smite will rarely get used and it'll feel like wasted points. On weaker teams with lower damage or scrambly teamplay, you can give everyone breathing room especially with mixed hordes. Ooooor you get the AI director that's out of control and wants to sandwich you between everything.
https://youtu.be/ryRzXseH_BE?si=WTBjI9zsMgciDmoV
supple dock
On that topic as I'm also using surge which I can't seem to put down: What blitz...
Smite and surge by just their raw design work super well together. Surge single and smite for AOE. You don't need to spam smite, shit you can use it once every few games, it's there as an oh shit button to make space
(unless you just wanna use smite and win the game)
upper sun
🤔
late sapphire
very good round, other psyker and i spent like 20min shitting on one of the zealots
I wish we could upgrade curios too
pine holly
I'm stuck in an elevator shaft
late sapphire
alt f4 n rejoin
pine holly
Mutie managed to grab me though a damn door
late sapphire
sometimes you can get a chaos spawn to grab you back in
pine holly
I'm useless to the team anyway, the sheild bubble is so bad
supple dock
Shield bubble is straight up op.. for like 2, maybe 3 uses if you're lucky
strong gulch
If you're on PC, you can alt F4 then get back to that same session.
supple dock
Other than that it's just kinda there, can provide decent cover in bad maps
late sapphire
its an okish crutch for low diff
toughness regen is ok
double charge good for bb builds sometimes
cosmic sigil
yesterday what i feared the most happened
out of memory crash during a solo clutch
right in front of the rez point
orchid shadow
Also great for containing the happy slime puppy.
pine holly
everything seems
supple dock
out of memory crash during a solo clutch
I've joked about doing this as a power move to the team I clutched for
strong gulch
There can be a delay at the end where visually the bubble is there but it's actually gone.
late sapphire
skill
strong gulch
dodge slide
cosmic sigil
i am glad it was a duo
pine holly
I can't 3 snipers
supple dock
3 snipers is very manageable, sometimes you'll get fucked but usually you can make your way out of it
Just gotta keep calm and watch them
strong gulch
You can dodge slide up to snipers and stab them. Not saying that's the only thing you can do. The bigger problem is getting lightly touched by the chaff around you.
supple dock
You don't even need to kill them just land a single lmb
late sapphire
single lmb headshot kills more often than not 💪
pine holly
Thats the thing....
strong gulch
But also, sometimes the game staight up says "you in particular".
pine holly
they have timed it so while one is aiming the other is firing
supple dock
Yeah sometimes there's no hope
late sapphire
keep sliding until cover
supple dock
That's exactly the rhythm you want
It's predictable and in a steady pace, allows you to dodge melee threats more easily
pine holly
I can't as soon as I stand I get sniper
late sapphire
why stand
pine holly
and no-one can get too close due to this
supple dock
You can dodge the moment you're up. You don't have to wait for it to go first person
pine holly
Itired the melee just body blocks me and I get taken out again
supple dock
Skill issue at that point. That's a very manageable situation and as you get better you'll see it more clearly
strong gulch
Oh, you mean how would you get picked up. Not how you would play out of that situation if not downed.
supple dock
Ooh
pine holly
Oh, you mean how would you get picked up. Not how you would play out of that sit...
Both
I seriously don't see how this is possible to withstand
even if I WAS to get picked up (can't see how beecause meelee interupts the pickup) I don't see how I'll get away because all the chaff bodyblocks
supple dock
What enemies
upper sun
yeah its empty
supple dock
I seriously don't see any threats here
pine holly
What enemies
there are alot in the fire there, not mine
strong gulch
If you were up. Dodge slide, find cover, always be moving.
upper sun
dont play threat levels you're not ready for
late sapphire
Some situations are fubar
But as you get used to higher diffs this will seem like nothing
upper sun
yeah
late sapphire
i mean hey i've seen l1000 guys go down to less
supple dock
Yeah but it's not a "how do I do this" moment
thorn cedar
you have much to learn young padawan
supple dock
That's just straight up *lol oops"
strong gulch
To give you credit. Heresy can get ridiculouos with the ai director. I have a buddy who doesn't play that often so we would do T4s; and every time they were supper cursed.
Like thicker packs of ragers than T5s.
pine holly
there right
supple dock
well that makes sense
pine holly
No i jsut got rid of all my gear
late sapphire
There is no reason you should suffer vs snipers with a zarona
upper sun
there right
yeah
upper sun
To give you credit. Heresy can get ridiculouos with the ai director. I have a bu...
https://streamable.com/8v0vf9 heresy moment
strong gulch
like WHY game chill
supple dock
Just takes some game sense
pine holly
they arn't though
supple dock
Sec
upper sun
then how do other people play the game?
upper sun
normal
upper sun
i was doing brainburst penance with someone
late sapphire
what curios do you have
strong gulch
what curios do you have
Good question. Too bad curio names mean nothing.
late sapphire
try to get some toughness n toss on a bit of gunner resist
fuckem gunners tbh
Not that it helps against shooters, really
supple dock
they arn't though
late sapphire
But yeah in high intensity sniper gauntlet you often end up with like 8 of em
late sapphire
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1243310226061393960/N...
hahaha the squats
upper sun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1243310226061393960/N...
snipers multiply when you dont kill them fast enough btw
late sapphire
snipers multiply when you dont kill them fast enough btw
when a daddy sniper and a mommy sniper love eachother very much...
supple dock
so then I smashed buttons
jovial juniper
Bro T bagged
supple dock
lmao like 8 snipers take a shot at you, they all miss, so you tbag and tpose at them
late sapphire
it clearly worked cause the moment you stopped one of them shot you
pine holly
E.G. this guy wasn't even visable on my screen till I was next to him
late sapphire
Might have just been in awe
pine holly
and I mean "triggerd" next to him not "so close that its avoidable at all" next to him
late sapphire
do you have uhh kinetic deflector
supple dock
E.G. this guy wasn't even visable on my screen till I was next to him
oh yeah that happens
time to learn how to fight daemonhosts
pine holly
like how do I "skill" myself out of that
the game litrally just spawning one next to you
late sapphire
skilled players can 1v1 dhs
strong gulch
Sometimes the game fecks you like that.
late sapphire
but thats a high skill ceiling
supple dock
mmhm, that sucks ass, you can 1v1 it
pine holly
dude I can't 1v1 the dregs
strong gulch
I'm not great at fight them, but they can be fought.
upper sun
like how do I "skill" myself out of that
by knowing where specialists spawn usually
late sapphire
usually i just run around em long enough my lads kill em
with kd you can block like 20 blows
strong gulch
dude I can't 1v1 the dregs
Are you on PC or console?
pine holly
Not like L4D2 where I can just grab an autoshottie and crown it
pine holly
Are you on PC or console?
PC
jovial juniper
The devil's claw kinetic deflector on my back pocket
late sapphire
lol yeah dclaw just counters dhs
supple dock
like how do I "skill" myself out of that
orchid shadow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1243310226061393960/N...
Holy, that ducking with zero dodges left. Panic or big brained move?
supple dock
Holy, that ducking with zero dodges left. Panic or big brained move?
sheer panic
like I did it hoping it'd do exactly that ofc
but that was the first time I'd done it
LOL
supple dock
knife is so good man
pine holly
have you ever played dead by daylight
No, not great with horror
supple dock
have you ever played dead by daylight
a little. im a killer fan. i like PH
my ex got it for me so we could play it together and I enjoyed being the bad guy more
oops
late sapphire
right so the bosses cant path over objects
strong gulch
PC
If you're open to it, there are mods called creature spawner, bot spawner, and true solo. You can spawn enemies in isolation and learn to fight them. You can also do solo missions and pick the difficulty and modifiers to basically train yourself and get to know things without the chaos of a full group.
late sapphire
no enemies can
but you can
you can just hop back n forth thru a window and the dh circles it like an idiot
supple dock
oh yeah
100%
I'd prefer to out-duel the DH tho
takes more skill, is more satisfying
late sapphire
proper dh duels with a non melee build and my ds4 are sweaty
supple dock
lmao trueee
But in those cases you just survive andlet your team deal with it
knowing how to tank the DH is just as much of a valuable skill
pine holly
If you're open to it, there are mods called creature spawner, bot spawner, and ...
probally a mod
halcyon gust
Because it is a mod
late sapphire
anyways
my #1 dt tip is the following
if youre getting followed by 100 maulers n crushers
just hop off a ledge
dodge sideways & you maintain momentum while midair
halcyon gust
if youre getting followed by 100 maulers n crushers
I thought it was shoot your way out and dodge like a mad man
late sapphire
if you are surrounded and a mutie is alive
let it grab you near a wall
they're not allowed to smack you if you're near a wall (it's a law) so they just toss you
halcyon gust
Or dodge the mutie and use the path they made for ya
halcyon gust
they're not allowed to smack you if you're near a wall (it's a law) so they just...
Game: Decides to ignore this law
strong gulch
probally a mod
Yes, they are mods.
pine holly
don't they explicidaly ban them
strong gulch
No
halcyon gust
Not really
As long it doesn't other players
It's 
Or else a lot people would get banned
late sapphire
any mod on nexus thats a month+ old is fine
halcyon gust
And 99% of the mods are QOL of mods that makes playing DT more enjoyable
late sapphire
or cheats like collectibles finder or spidey sense lel
halcyon gust
Spidey sense is in that weird spot for me in that regard
On one hand it is, but on the other. It helps those with hearing impairment to still be able to play without being a active dead weight to the squad because they didn't react to something directly behind them
strong gulch
Between accessibility and the game dropping sound cue (not muffled), I don't think it is a cheat. It does feel close tho.
halcyon gust
Between accessibility and the game dropping sound cue (not muffled), I don't thi...
The number of times you get the Silent burster surprise
pine holly
Issue is many would see many of those as cheating
late sapphire
Yeah man i have hearing impairments (heavy metal music blaring in the background)
pine holly
I'm also having issue with a washed out area
strong gulch
A lot of people think accessibility is cheating. So I don't care what those particular people think on it.
late sapphire
Accessibility is cheating if you're not using it to make up for an actual deficit
strong gulch
Hear this, ramps are cheating.
strong gulch
true
late sapphire
There was a recent spectacle fighter
strong gulch
On that note, if any of you even remotely think a cane or walking stick will help you, please use one.
late sapphire
Where if you turned on all of the accessibility options just spamming left click would play for you
pine holly
I mean I Doubt theres an optimization mod for AMD cards and something to help with the lack of contrast on the sandy maps
Cuz to me these guys on the sandy maps (the ones that are mostly yellow) they blend in for me quite abit
strong gulch
I wouldn't be surprised if there is something like that.
late sapphire
graphics mods are insane
some of the ogryns play on potato mode
like 20 vertexes on screen at a time
strong gulch
I don't know much about graphics or settings, but that looks forked.
halcyon gust
Cuz to me these guys on the sandy maps (the ones that are mostly yellow) they bl...
Unrelated. I'm just silently screaming into the warp for that Ogryn with a +Wound curio on them
late sapphire
Never seen a triple woundgryn?
pine holly
Seriously though arn't mods pretty much completely banned as per the TOS
halcyon gust
Reminder that Fat shark is perfectly okay with mods 
No one is gonna call the FBI and raid your home because you use mods on DT
pine holly
Helldivers 2 gave me a suspension over programming strategems into my stream deck x-x
late sapphire
There are banned mods
so the rest are allowed
& even then theres no consequence for using the deleted mods
halcyon gust
Yeah, but all the mods you see on Nexus is 100% safe to use
lethal lagoon
Helldivers 2 gave me a suspension over programming strategems into my stream dec...
Like half the game is playing DDR
halcyon gust
I have yet to see a hacker once in my 800 hours of DT
lethal lagoon
pine holly
The programming wasn't even a mod
lethal lagoon
macroing strategems is ehhh
pine holly
it emulated someone typing the stragem in really fast
patent jacinth
I’ve seen someone with stratagem macros
pine holly
Lets just say when I have a million things going on screen I can't call strategems
patent jacinth
Luckily I played a bunch of the first, and I started out with reinforce and resupply ingrained into my psyche
lethal lagoon
Or mods.
There main message with mod usage is don't negatively impact other players, and they watch the nexus reasonably closely
patent jacinth
The only mods I know they don’t like are the mod that lets you not use clothes and Vacuum Capsule!
late sapphire
both interfere with other players
pine holly
IDK using mods in a mutiplayer game seems just...
late sapphire
They are client side
halcyon gust
Yeah
late sapphire
i have one that makes my sword look betterer
halcyon gust
No one, but you is effected by them
And even Weapon customization is only seen by you and you only
late sapphire
Exactly
I'm kind of surprised they havent taken it down though
A lot of studios would crack down on that, fearing losses of skin sale
pine holly
No-one made a performance mod
pine holly
I mean like the unofficial patch for skyrim
late sapphire
That's hard
Skyrim is super known there's like a thousand mods for it & you have total access to all of the game
& it's not in development anymore
Well, not really
strong gulch
You don't have to mod.
restive ice
nah bro just do
if causesFpsDrop == true:
disable
pine holly
well THAT explains the slight sickness
strong gulch
But they are there if you want to.
late sapphire
Don't have to mod, don't have to be afraid to mod either, though
strong gulch
ye
pine holly
Well I need help gear and material farming and I can't pass malicious with my gear right now
upper sun
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/49
real 
now just set the enemies to high res so you can see them a mile away
zinc atlas
Does anyone know what's condition damage in Power DI? Does that cover soulblaze?
jovial juniper
Shards
upper sun
by not cornering yourself
pine holly
I mutie threw me over here
late sapphire
by blocking until the mutie brings you out is the easiest solution i think
pine holly
wouldn't the mutie just slam into the wall behind and to the right
to run me out it would need to come from behind ot the right
late sapphire
you know how it slams you into the floor
cant do that if theres a wall
just tosses you instead
anyways thats what, three ragers?
pine holly
the ragers and another 2 ran off when I fell
late sapphire
if you're not completely out of stamina and dodges and peril and ability then it's handleable
if you are, avoid that situation
Keep in mind the average person in this chat has 100+ hours in darktide
There are people who can true solo on the highest difficulty
spice veldt
so how do you escape this
spam assail to damage and stagger ragers and chip away at them with knife and revolver while they're staggered, though i'd assume that assail's damage is enough to knock off a rager patrol alone on malice
you also have kinetic deflection so there's always the option to be patient and dodge away to a better position while holding block
halcyon gust
so how do you escape this
Actively dodge the rager attacks while using the Revolver and knife to slowly pick at them and attempt to make space. While doing that slowly move towards the team while pinging one of the ragers as pinging stuff will Usually direct all sorts of damage towards the general direction. Once grouped up with the team proceed to finish up what is left
And question my loadout choice in this situation I got myself in
And compare to situations I gotten myself into. That's pretty tame
pine holly
I'm in game right now
late sapphire
zealot of course
halcyon gust
I'm in game right now
Good luck in your run
pine holly
Also it's really hard to kill a pox hound with brain burst
late sapphire
Why? Just grab it with lmb and then hold
pine holly
I mean I tried veteran but I kept running out of ammo
On a class that depends on it's gun
fiery wigeon
they also can have regenerating grenades
upper sun
when i was levelling vet i did more damage with helbore stab than my actual melee weapon
fiery wigeon
u def have options for ammo conservation on vet
pine holly
Zelot is the melee, vet is the ranged Ogryn is basically mobile cover tank and psyker is probally damage
upper sun
ogryn still does damage
fiery wigeon
psyker is also ranged
upper sun
tonking is useless in this game
fiery wigeon
ogryn does heavy things
spice veldt
there aren't really quite strict role definitions between the classes
upper sun
except plasma gun vet they have the strict role of leaving when they get downed for the first time
upper galleon
Zelot is the melee, vet is the ranged Ogryn is basically mobile cover tank and p...
none of this is 100% accurate
spice veldt
you can still play almost entirely ranged on vet if you want to, though you can't do that on every gun of course
lunar hollow
except plasma gun vet they have the strict role of leaving when they get downed ...
always
upper galleon
besides like zealot, but zealot has a handful of ranged bonuses and are also really tanky
pine holly
It was 2 years ago >.> You didn't have the massive skill tree you have now
fiery wigeon
each class has skills that let them specialize in different things
pine holly
And last I played the techpreist guy didn't exist as a shop
upper galleon
It was 2 years ago >.> You didn't have the massive skill tree you have now
no
i played since pre-order beta
ogryn was never a tank, he was the slow hitting, but powerful melee bruiser
fiery wigeon
i started like 2 weeks ago
3 weeks?
yeah ogryn is heavy guy
jis guns are heavy and his melee weapons are heaby
upper galleon
with power ranged options mostly limited via ammo but that was alleviated by having a veteran and not needing bonuses to perform
halcyon gust
Ogryn has some deent hit taking abilities, but he is no tank.
But boy he can being in the middle of a cluster fuck and can get out taking minimal damage if you play your cards right
upper sun
actually
upper galleon
FNP is the closest you can get to be a tank but even then, you should be focus on maximizing damage
all the classes can tank really well in their respective scenarios
upper sun
ogryn to me feels squishier than zealot
fiery wigeon
"tank" is just not a viable role in the realm of coop pve shooters
halcyon gust
FNP is the closest you can get to be a tank but even then, you should be focus o...
The days where FNP only dropped on health damage
upper sun
unless you take fnp
halcyon gust
If you;re not used to Ogryn I can get that
fiery wigeon
zealot is really good at frontlining tbf
upper sun
but if i dont take fnp i take a lot of chip damage
fiery wigeon
like really really good
upper galleon
ogryn has the same dodges as everyone else, it just seems shittier cause you are bigger
halcyon gust
Or you not abusing Ogryn's insane toughness Regen on heavy melees
upper sun
oh no i am
fiery wigeon
ogryn has the same dodges as everyone else, it just seems shittier cause you are...
lol
upper sun
its just whenever i dont take fnp i notice -20 hp after every 20 poxies
spice veldt
ogryn doesn't have lingering i-frames on dodge compared to the human classes which may or may not contribute
upper sun
i dont have that problem with zealot
fiery wigeon
maybe the real tank was the purg staff we found along the way
ornate hamlet
No you don't
fiery wigeon
"need"
pine holly
For resources and weapons yeah
fiery wigeon
lowering difficulty is fine
ornate hamlet
Actually what are you doing
restive ice
yuore mothre
upper sun
maybe watching some gameplay would help
ornate hamlet
Hey
strong gulch
Watching gameplay helped me. It still helps.
upper sun
yeah
fiery wigeon
mhm
pine holly
To what I know you need to be frame perfect to not instantly go down
ornate hamlet
Me doing no HP damage half of the map and eating a crusher stealth attack
strong gulch
Like, I'm not great at this game and am not always aware or remember things. There is a lot of info to process in this game, so watching and rewinding can be helpful.
upper sun
but yeah dont play threat levels you're not ready for
halcyon gust
@pine holly On of the various clusterfucks I got myself into as Psyker
fiery wigeon
ill occasionally record my own gameplay and go over it
upper sun
most of us have like 1k+ hours at the game
ornate hamlet
I think you just need to shift into 5th gear and stay there
upper sun
you dont improve at once
pine holly
I would record or stream more of it....if the game was more stable
fiery wigeon
i have no such thing
halcyon gust
It's very gradual
fiery wigeon
i also play a ton of games of this sort like payday and drg so i have the skillsets to handle higher difficulties
upper sun
I still dont feel comfy playing auric maelstrom without packing a broken build like trauma even at 1.5k hours
pine holly
It's more AMD card issues, the game is far more unstable on AMD cards
ornate hamlet
If you need help and are available idfk in about an hour and a half, I could pull you into some higher difficulty runs with my psyket
R
Arrr
fiery wigeon
I still dont feel comfy playing auric maelstrom without packing a broken build l...
heh
ill eventually get comfy in aurics
just need to shove myself in them
ornate hamlet
Provided you're also not in fucking Japan
pine holly
I'll be playing tomorrow
halcyon gust
ill eventually get comfy in aurics
I do a mix of Aurics and normal Damnation games.
ornate hamlet
My playable experience is limited to America and a big maybe for Europe, but
pine holly
It is 2am almost
halcyon gust
I generally been biasing more Aurics more and more
ornate hamlet
Euroman
halcyon gust
Eastern US
ornate hamlet
It can't be 2 AM there, it's 10 PM in Brazil
pine holly
Yeah also the game has no UK servers so gah I'm connecting to one on the continent
halcyon gust
Well 8:52 PM, but close enough
pine holly
Assail is good but I get the feeling it's no good for anything above malice
fiery wigeon
nah its still good
halcyon gust
Assail is still solid on the higher difficulties
Above Malice it becomes a pretty meh horde clearer
fiery wigeon
it just absolutely curb stomps anything lower than heresy
yeah
it turns into a specialist headshotting machine
in heresy and up
halcyon gust
It's a great "Pick off a Elite or Specialist" tool
pine holly
Psyker has brain burst which is completely useless because someone else will take that kill
halcyon gust
And depending on the situation a "Open up a Bulwark" on demand button
pine holly
And you end up taking out some horde member
fiery wigeon
brain burst is decent with empowered psionics
i would not use it with anything else
halcyon gust
Makes Brain burst actually usable
pine holly
Brain bursts issue is its charge time
fiery wigeon
the charge is infact awful
halcyon gust
Empower solves the charge time issue
fiery wigeon
empowered psionics halves it
pine holly
Someone can and will just take the kill
halcyon gust
THat's the curse of Brain burst
ornate hamlet
I SAW ASSAIL HATE
halcyon gust
Why you tag a different enemy and brain burst another
fiery wigeon
theres a reason i hate bb
fiery wigeon
assail is the only one that doesnt need empowered to do things lol
halcyon gust
I only use Brain burst on my Flame Trauma and Purge staff build just so I can remove far off specials that isn't inside "Murder" range of my staffs
pine holly
theres a reason i hate bb
Yeah and when some enemies move real fast...rager, pox hound. Or hide gunner
halcyon gust
BB empowered as well
pine holly
It's like on can't use it on them thrn
halcyon gust
Here's a tip
As long as you egt the lock on
That enemy can travel to the other side of the world
As long as you keep charging that BB
upper galleon
It's like on can't use it on them thrn
are you using it correctly
halcyon gust
Pop goes the brain~
upper galleon
like
pine holly
When I tried BB you had to keep the aim on their head
fiery wigeon
BB homing is pretty intense
upper galleon
you need to practice using it well, not how you are doing it
you can BB someone, and as your channeling, you can go behind walls and they can run a mile, doesn't matter, it should go through
my guess is you are precharging BBs always, and not targetting anyone
fiery wigeon
like the one thing i can rely on with bb is that it will kill that hound in 3-4 business days
upper galleon
yea i suggest, doing your mouse clicks in the opposite order or something cause BR should not constantly be changing targets to whatever is in your crosshairs
halcyon gust
When I tried BB you had to keep the aim on their head
Notice how the exact moment I get the BB lock on. I lose line of sight and kept charging it until it went Pop
pine holly
Whenever I used it, bare in mind it was ages ago it kept changing targets like crazy
ornate hamlet
BB LMB locks onto the target and only retargets when it dies
halcyon gust
RMB lets you pre-charge a burst
ornate hamlet
RMB takes longer to charge and is honestly very niche
upper galleon
RMB lets you pre-charge a burst
yea and if you are only oding that, aka playing BR backwards, you will get your lock changed by any enemy that jumps infront of your crosshairs
pine holly
That or by someone stealing the kill...which was the reason I stopped using it
halcyon gust
I only use RMB Brain to charge my Peril
If there isn't anything to stomp with my Trauma
upper galleon
That or by someone stealing the kill...which was the reason I stopped using it
no one should be yoinking your kills anymore
BR extension node+ EP
you can chain blasts together rapidly
pine holly
doubt that still happens all the time when I use assail targeted throw
Often used targeted assail on things like snipers, gunners, ragers when they are far
upper galleon
assail targeted throw will always hit the enemy you target, then it will go to wherever your crosshair is like a normal shard
potent echo
I mainly use targeted assail to build peril on gun builds
upper galleon
and no, you can doubt all you want
but can some witch pull up the double shield+ EP BR clip vs gunners or something
potent echo
EP BR is fun
halcyon gust
It's great
potent echo
With PC it might as well be aoe BR
ornate hamlet
BB's stagger is valuable
halcyon gust
The number times it can save you from a bad trapper or dog
strong gulch
My skill issue with weapon switching never fails to kill me.
ornate hamlet
potent echo
How does that work
ornate hamlet
Basically, there are certain moments in the player's gameplay where they ask the game to swap weapons and the game goes "nuh uh"
This makes the game not go "nuh uh"
upper galleon
It’s a desync issue caused by a cruddy engine
ornate hamlet
It's so good that I accidentally swap out of a shotgun before the shot actually happens and have to fire again
upper galleon
Basically all server related issues aren’t the server but how the engine communicates with the server
ornate hamlet
I imagine the hitreg issues are the same as Killing Floor 1
Client model in one location, server hitbox in another
spice veldt
motherfucking kf1 hitboxes aaaaaaaaah
lyric burrow
Never played the KF games actually
spice veldt
kf1 is pretty fun besides the hitboxes
upper galleon
I heard they are making kf3 but im like
spice veldt
i dislike kf2 cuz of the direction they've taken it into
and the new guns very obviously do not have the animation polish of the original ones
lyric burrow
Is 1 still worth playing
upper galleon
Kf2 is so fucking floaty i dont mind the direction besides the post launch greed but it’s so damn floaty in combat
lyric burrow
Or is it dated as shit
spice veldt
it is pretty dated but i think you can still find some joy from it
ornate hamlet
I have my issues with both, but ultimately I pick KF2 because I can cancel reloads
lyric burrow
Mayhaps ill try it
spice veldt
i too am a slave to modernity
upper galleon
Kf1 is on source still right?
upper galleon
Might be confusing it for a different zombie game that started as a source mod
ornate hamlet
Contagion, uhhh
Zombie Panic Source or whatever
No More Room In Hell
hurr durr Left 4 Dead
upper galleon
Hah nope killing floor did start in source just not kf1
upper galleon
Or not
Im going crazy
Being gaslit by google
It’s unreal
Hopeuflly u5 will fix the general bad/outdated vibe i got from kf2
ornate hamlet
I think that getting the gritty and cheeky tone of KF1 back would be nice
It was pretty surreal to have this whole apocalypse, death and murder, and have the characters sound like jolly British dudes
ornate hamlet
Also KF2 doesn't have Ash Harding
upper galleon
It’s the weird floaty combat where you only feel stagger or killing blows
strong gulch
In case anyone was waiting for multi key binds to come back.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/337
ornate hamlet
real and true real and true
haughty star
what did they increase close range damage to?
potent echo
12.5m
shadow oar
what autogun is best for gun psyker
ornate hamlet
Columnus has the highest DPS, but I prefer Graia for general use
fiery wigeon
damn
ornate hamlet
blows up rolls with mind
potent echo
Rate Deez nuts
lethal lagoon
Rate Deez nuts
A solid 4/10
I mean when you consider billions of people, that's not bad buddy.
potent echo
🤏
shadow oar
autogun blessings for gaze are dum dum and deathspitter?
lethal lagoon
Columbus is dumdum fire frenzy
shadow oar
ah shit
lethal lagoon
deathspitter is an okay alternative to fire frenzy
It's not like bricked or anything
lethal lagoon
whats the necessary stats
shadow oar
ty
lethal lagoon
mobility is the dump but generally you want 51 at minimum for the maximum dodges
potent echo
But 1 less dodge is whatever, just get gudder
potent echo
Ye
lethal lagoon
Buff is nice
You only have to do like 50% of a rager's HP for the burn to finish it off
Basically just like 1 well aimed burst
Autogun is still ~~probably ~~generally stronger
haughty star
Recon has no stagger
recon 6 deffo has stagger
haughty star
still debating on recon las vs autogun
i've been using recon 6 with dum dum and infernus and it's absolutely nutty. gotta get one with high everything but mobility tho pretty much every stat is mandatory on her with the scalings
columnus is good but i much prefer the 6 personally
shadow oar
i've been using recon 6 with dum dum and infernus and it's absolutely nutty. got...
same, thing melts
having 3 dodges feels bad when ur in gaze trying to melt a group is my only issue
quartz barn
I kinda solved that by limiting my dodges as i reposition
So instead of dodging to your new position just walk and only dodge when you need to
⚽
potent echo
Wtf is haxball
lethal lagoon
Wtf is haxball <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
potent echo
upper sun
Charge rate was the last thing I read
crafting update will ||notfixit||
lethal lagoon
crafting update will ||notfixit||
I have so many slightly crappy traumas
I don't need another
Get in here
upper sun
same I have like 1 great one and rest kinda meh
lethal lagoon
upper sun
no
lethal lagoon
quartz barn
bruh getting my ass beat
Well atleast you edited i got confused for a sec
upper sun
im not even awake yet 😭
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
You
pine holly
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
ok thats info overloard for me
lethal lagoon
Just pick your weapon from the table of contents on the right
Other than the meme blazing sprit force sword, it's all accurate.
untold niche
I'm down for some haxball
300 ping
lethal lagoon
you can host
quartz barn
Dt during low hours be like
untold niche
u can be a pro rocket league player @lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
Holy shit
untold niche
i go shit
lethal lagoon
Dt during low hours be like
lethal lagoon
u can be a pro rocket league player <@1001693431300636764>
I was the middle school slime soccor champion
Unmatched
untold niche
I was the middle school slime soccor champion
why not actualy just get rocket league
ornate hamlet
Soccor
lethal lagoon
why not actualy just get rocket league
You underestimate my age
It's too 3-d for my boomer brain
untold niche
<:PepeDent:968587665056337960>
you play dark tide
pine holly
I mostly use assail as my 'gun' so
untold niche
I have no idea what you are talking about
how is it 2.5d
i think 2.5d is original doom
lethal lagoon
You are just like a kid asking why the sky is blue
I'm not going to humor you
Go play in your room
untold niche
you are using the wrong definitions 
just like a boomer, so stubborn and unwilling to learn / accept he is wrong
lethal lagoon
Now I can't tell if you are joking with me or if you think I am serious
untold niche
lethal lagoon
untold niche
Now I can't tell if you are joking with me or if you think I am serious
read the second line then think for yourself
lethal lagoon
I think you added that as insurence
It's like when you text a girl but keep it ambiguous enough that she can't prove you were asking her out because you are a giant pussy
Let's go out to dinner
(just for fun)
Let's see that movie
(I know you love marvel and I don't wanna go alone)
untold niche
i get the spirit of what you mean, i knew that you actually know waht 3d means, but the first half i just wanted to take a jab at you so i was serious
untold niche
no
potent echo
It's like when you text a girl but keep it ambiguous enough that she can't prove...
You uncovered the secret SEA courting ritual
lethal lagoon
Don't respond with "sea" to my comment
potent echo
You don't need to send me feet pics, UNLESS
potent echo
Don't respond with "sea" to my comment
Pluses
lethal lagoon
You know just for fun
Everyone does it
It's basically a meme
I mean why not
I do it all the time with my friends
We are friends right
Just friends.
potent echo
Unless
potent echo
No that's too aggressive
lethal lagoon
It's aggressively passive
Like you are shoving in their face how shy and passive you are
potent echo
Need to deny more aggressively
It's not like we're friends or anything right
You don't need to send me anything pfft
lethal lagoon
b-baka
potent echo
lethal lagoon
spice veldt
mailbomb
potent echo
What?
lethal lagoon
I'm not your mother
Wait.
My joke was that your mother thinks you are gay
But I fucked it up real bad
quartz barn
Mommy atlas ayo
lethal lagoon
So just pretend i got you