psyker-class

[long wharf]

you get more value out of the health boost

[buoyant maple]

With malefic & no DD u can hit a crusher for 1800 on empowered H1 Crit weakspot

[eager token]

edge peril

[nocturne dust]

I disagree, toughness helps you survive gunners/shooters and reduces the damage you take from the second hit

[broken carbon]

now imagine that with dd

thatd be like

2100?

[long wharf]

mix in toughness DR and toughness gain, and you have a recipe for being able to survive a hit and get back to max very quickly with the health buffer against chip damage

[broken carbon]

is that with uncanny stacks btw

i need to use malefic momentum more

[buoyant maple]

Yea I rolled this so decided to test it out

[long wharf]

enemy ranged attacks do more damage to toughness than HP

[nocturne dust]

If you don't get stabbed a dozen times in a few seconds, toughness is better. Getting hit twice is more likely to happen more often.

[broken carbon]

yah thats almost my exact illisi lol

[long wharf]

regulars in here have had this argument since release

[broken carbon]

okay hang on gang i gotta brb

[buoyant maple]

I’m rocking a rly weird build for psyker rn lol

[long wharf]

you will overwhelmingly feel the health gain more than the toughness gain

especially with the toughness DR, as odd as that sounds

[nocturne dust]

And HP doesn't regen by itself, so toughness any day

[long wharf]

it's because HP doesn't regen that you want more of it

it doesn't matter that toughness regens when you take health damage

in fact, the only class I take toughness curios is Vet

[ornate abyss]

what about ogryn?

[nocturne dust]

Health damage is much more avoidable with toughness

[long wharf]

more HP = more chip hits you survive

[buoyant maple]

2~3x toughness

[ornate abyss]

have toughness on all ogryn curios

[long wharf]

more HP = more corruption you can take

[nocturne dust]

Not true, toughness benefits you more since it reduces the chip damage taken

[long wharf]

only on that first hit

[buoyant maple]

Psyker & veteran generally want to build to >200 health with curios

[nocturne dust]

Corruption isn't ever an issue unless someone is picking up grimoires

[long wharf]

toughness doesn't reduce health chip damage based on toughness damage taken

[buoyant maple]

After that it’s kinda up to h

[nocturne dust]

and the second and third.

[long wharf]

you take health chip damage based on the percentage on toughness you have remaining

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[long wharf]

which is why it's more important to get back to max toughness immediately

[buoyant maple]

Mathematically it does

[nocturne dust]

You have more percent remaining when you have more toughness.

[long wharf]

which is why toughness DR is so valuable

[nocturne dust]

And since most ways to regen toughness are %s, it's purely beneficial

[buoyant maple]

U don’t magically recover toughness faster by having lower toughness (unless u rely on coherency toughness regen)

[mental rock]

You also have to remember a higher total toughness means percentage toughness regen like fotf is giving more value

[long wharf]

the literal value difference is small, though

[buoyant maple]

This is not rly true since it’s all percentage based

[buoyant maple]

This is true

I think as long as u get >200 health u can go whatever u prefer

[long wharf]

small enough that it doesn't matter when one hit can almost strip your toughness regardless

[buoyant maple]

Psyker’s toughness scaling just sucks

[mental rock]

Yes and since it's all percentage based a higher toughness is that much better

[long wharf]

again, for psykers, you want to care more about getting to max toughness as fast as possible

not try to tank everything with toughness

[buoyant maple]

No because toughness’ health damage mitigation is also % based

So let’s say u have 120 toughness and take a bruiser bonk to the face (77 damage, 77 toughness damage)

[long wharf]

it's because it's all % based that the paltry base toughness values aren't worth trying to increase

[buoyant maple]

U commit warp sorcery and instantly replenish 50% of ur toughness, somehow

[long wharf]

if psykers had as much toughness as health, this would be a different discussion

[buoyant maple]

120-77+(120x0.5) = 103 = 85.83% of 120

[long wharf]

as it is, psyker toughness is low enough that it's not worth focusing on maximizing raw values

[mental rock]

I thought we were talking in general, not just psykers

[long wharf]

you get more mileage out of maximizing health

nope

[buoyant maple]

The problem here is that Psyker’s toughness scaling sucks

[long wharf]

the calculus is different for vets

[buoyant maple]

Veteran, zealot & ogryn can get to much higher toughness

[long wharf]

and there's an argument either way for zealots

[buoyant maple]

With access to much higher TDR

[long wharf]

and much higher max toughness

[buoyant maple]

Whereas psyker really struggles to break like 140 toughness most of the time

[long wharf]

trying to break 130 toughness isn't worth not breaking 220 health for psyker, IMO

[buoyant maple]

On veteran after u get 200+ health, getting toughness helps scaling a lot

[long wharf]

on vet I go full toughness curios

[buoyant maple]

Most veteran builds fluctuate between 160~200 toughness

[long wharf]

because I stay out of melee as much as possible as a vet

[buoyant maple]

Zealot’s base stats are just gifted tho they can pretty much do whatever they want

[long wharf]

Zealots can have the highest DR in the game

that includes toughness and health affecting DR

it's sort of ridiculous

[rich spindle]

Im running 2x toughness 1x health rn. I should try out vice versa

[quartz barn]

eh seems kinda useless if you dont get hit

[ornate abyss]

sidenote, is damage way too low?

[broken carbon]

send it’s

nn

!!

[buoyant maple]

Highest TDR in the game is veteran

[long wharf]

my psyker runs +3 stamina 2x health

[long wharf]

yes, but zealot gets flat damage reduction

as well as TDR

which is even more valuable

[rich spindle]

I used to run stam but I realized the stam regen is so crazy I only needed it for revives

[long wharf]

I also run stamina regen on all curios for all classes

[rich spindle]

Cant hurt

[buoyant maple]

Not final

[long wharf]

I'd argue that you really don't need the crit aura

cooldown aura is more valuable

[buoyant maple]

It is

However

I personally despise having to spend points on 2 borderline useless talents

[long wharf]

and unless you're running transfer peril void, I try to get the -peril generation nodes

[thorn cedar]

man with anticipation

[rich spindle]

Almost every psyker runs the cd aura too

[long wharf]

it's honestly the best aura

[buoyant maple]

I like 4 dodge on staff

[thorn cedar]

youd need less dodges with mind in motion

[long wharf]

the only time I take crit aura is when running purge staff

because you absolutely want to be critting as humanly possible with purge

[buoyant maple]

Idrk, mind in motion felt like it wasn’t doing much

[long wharf]

MiM is a nicety

I never take Malefic Momentum, though

as a psyker, I'm doing warp damage 95% of the time

[rich spindle]

Its goated on sg gunker

[long wharf]

sure, that makes sense

I really wish gun psyker was more warp-flavored

[buoyant maple]

I like it for illisi and it wasn’t as hard to upkeep as I thought

[long wharf]

like, the psyker making the bullets wrapped in warp energy or something

[broken carbon]

no scriers gaze?

[long wharf]

instead we got the laziest possible gun-focused boost, "click to do more gun damage"

[rich spindle]

I take it on illisi - assail - void too

[long wharf]

nothing smart about that design whatsoever

assail is warp damage

running assail+Illisi is too much situational overlap for me

I run ds4+assail+void mostly

[buoyant maple]

I hate beast of nurgle

[rich spindle]

Illisi assail weaving feels so good

[thorn cedar]

mind in motion is much more noticable with your move speed buffs active

and personally i see the biggest return just tapping quell quickly midfight

[long wharf]

problem is that's not really maximizing individual assail shard performance

[thorn cedar]

since you suffer zero move loss

[long wharf]

assail shards work best when you're guiding them by looking at what you want them to hit

[thorn cedar]

sometimes i use it as my anim cancel for deimos l1 spam with scriers going

lurking around for targets with my OK sign

[long wharf]

if you're throwing a shard and then looking at something else to engage something closer, that shard is more likely to just switch targets and not do anything productive

[buoyant maple]

What abt these

[long wharf]

the one on the right is literally my assail build

if I'm running damnation, I switch from vent to double barrier walls

[broken carbon]

lmfao

yeah makes

sense

[long wharf]

unless there's another psyker running walls, then I'll go dome

wait wait wait

[broken carbon]

why

[long wharf]

why aren't you taking quick shards?

I never take assail without both upgrade nodes

I guess it depends on what you want to be focusing on

[rich spindle]

I skip quick shards when i use void

[buoyant maple]

I realized I just throw them out in between staff & melee

[broken carbon]

you don’t need it all the time, sometimes you just throw out a couple to build true aim or take out a special

[buoyant maple]

I don’t backline that much on psyker

[long wharf]

I do use assail as much as possible

I prefer dodging between frontline and mid-line

front for stabbing things with ds4, mid for controlling groups of enemies at range with assail

[buoyant maple]

I pretty much use assail just for shotgunner group / special sniping

[long wharf]

void only really comes out for when enemy density gets too high for assail and when I want to knock down maulers and crushers

[buoyant maple]

It’s not that good into flak armor anyway

[long wharf]

no it isn't

but it is good for staggering what it hits

which helps you get True Aim procs and keeping groups from doing anything while you close distance or deal with something more pressing

I probably throw literally thousands of assail shards in auric damns

[broken carbon]

why do people make this differentiation, ur either in melee or not in melee, there isn’t really a midline

[buoyant maple]

Unironically I think >50% of my true aim stacks are from melee

[rich spindle]

Big brain psyker gameplay: always assail while sprinting up to next enemies for more scoreboard damage

[broken carbon]

same

even with void

[long wharf]

because there's actually a distance sweet spot for assail shards

with the way they track targets and bounce from target to target as you guide them

short range means you're mostly hitting one or two targets and not usually in the head

mid range means the shard has time to turn into heads and bounce from head to head

it's far more effective when you learn that spacing

[broken carbon]

fair but like

[long wharf]

no buts

[broken carbon]

i don’t use it for damage like that all the time

[long wharf]

I'm an assail conniseur

[broken carbon]

a little bit of stagger and clear

[long wharf]

I do use it for damage all the time

and I'm aware I likely misspelled "connisseur"

oh well

it's a difference in play style

[buoyant maple]

Connoisseur

[long wharf]

I love throwing shards of warp stuff through enemy heads

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

bazinga

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-fired-donald-trump-the-apprentice-point-gif-8557097

[buoyant maple]

Is there a way to guarantee weakspot hits from assail

[rich spindle]

I heard people say throwing them upward helps

Never really. Oticed it helping

[long wharf]

aim slightly above the head of your target

shards guide towards the enemy under your reticle

[jovial juniper]

Max height psyker strategy

[buoyant maple]

Under, not directly at?

[long wharf]

and by aiming slightly upwards, you give the shard a better chance of being thrown upwards, so that it curves down onto the head/weakspot

"enemy under your reticle" = "enemy you are directly looking at"

[buoyant maple]

Yea but there is a difference between “reticle on head” and “reticle above head”

[long wharf]

reticle slightly above head when you throw, and you immediately shift reticle onto the head

[broken carbon]

also good for voidstrike headshots because it feels so inconsistent

[long wharf]

and then you shift your aim from head to head as the shard hits

[buoyant maple]

Sounds like a lot of effort

[rich spindle]

It is

Usually i just end up spamming wherever

[broken carbon]

same

[rich spindle]

And red hitmarker affirma my choices

[long wharf]

the red hitmarker isn't telling you whether you hit weakspots or not, though

and yes, it is effort, but that's how you maximize the damage of each shard

[buoyant maple]

Dead enemy = good enough

[rich spindle]

Red is ded

[long wharf]

the only time I spam shards is when I want to suppress a group at range

[long wharf]

well yes

there fixed

[broken carbon]

yeah im not doing that 10 times

im just gonna click and then melee

[long wharf]

I really enjoy that there's skill to using assail

rather than just dumping shards into a group at close range

[rich spindle]

I enjoy click and enemie die and i get big damage number

[long wharf]

just like smite, the best way to use assail isn't the way most people do it

[broken carbon]

smite bad

[long wharf]

I use assail as a primary weapon

[rich spindle]

Mmmmmmm damage number

[long wharf]

you guys are doing an outstanding job of distracting me from writing code.

cut it out.

[broken carbon]

ur the one in the chat

[jovial juniper]

Hehe Deimos special to the head swap to assail throw

[broken carbon]

hehe voidstrike

[long wharf]

void special pokes only run

[buoyant maple]

Ok so the assail strat is

Aim above head, throw
Adjust onto head before shard hits
Repeat however many times as needed

?

[long wharf]

yep

[broken carbon]

the assail strat is click 10 times draw sword

[long wharf]

but you don't need to throw multiple shards at once

adjust onto head after you throw so shard can target down onto head

then you retarget to the next head just as the shard reaches your target

[buoyant maple]

What are the breakpoints looking like for individual shard weakspot hits

[long wharf]

repeat until shard disengages on its own or you need to throw another

on damnation, the first shard you throw isn't going to kill any of the horde

but the second and on, provided you're hitting weakspots, will reliably kill horde

[upper sun]

with enough DD stacks it should no?

[long wharf]

always secondary throw at specialists and elites that aren't wearing flak/carapace head armor

[long wharf]

if you have DD already going, then yes, assail will kill from the get go

DD is amazing with assail since a few patches ago

[upper sun]

DD is great after the stack change yeah

they just gotta shrink warp siphon by a point or two and we're gaming

[jovial juniper]

And increase the speed of the shards empowered by Psyonics

[upper sun]

🤔 fast shards instead of free

[ornate hamlet]

I'd be down for WS having 6 stacks by default

[upper sun]

sounds UNIQUE and FUN

[long wharf]

I don't think making the shards faster would make them better

unless we're talking making the secondary make them not seek at all and just be a railgun type shot

with extra cleave and damage

[ornate hamlet]

I would appreciate assail having some little modifiers to change its behavior

[upper sun]

i'm okay with them connecting the +2 node further up so you have the choice of not picking up infire reborn/ psychic vampire to get it

[long wharf]

sure why not, as long as the changes are useful

the way warp charges work needs to be redone entirely

[ornate hamlet]

What we currently don't have is actually a railgun assail

[long wharf]

know what would be crazy? empowered shards splitting into smaller shards on enemy impact

let that happen, say, twice

so you can hit four enemies with one shard, not counting piercing per shard

[ornate hamlet]

BB can track enemies around walls and assail can if you fire it while the enemy is still cornering, but assail still has that annoying travel time and lower damage, so BB ends up being better for getting those higher damage kills

[broken carbon]

nonono give us a pyromancy for our blitz, get rid of smite and change it into the molten beam from rogue trader

[long wharf]

warp melta, I dig it

[broken carbon]

a single beam of fire that does good damage and inflicts brittleness

[long wharf]

but then the purge enjoyers would cry and whine

[broken carbon]

nonnononon

i have a solution for that too

u know what we do

[buoyant maple]

Comet azur (40k edition)

[broken carbon]

we give purg staff a usefull special

it switches to an alternate fire

[long wharf]

all staves need a unique and useful special

[broken carbon]

that eats away at armor but does little damage

[long wharf]

the staff melee poke is beyond useless

[broken carbon]

so u start with melting armor

then switch back to blue fire

[buoyant maple]

The staff melee has the highest melee cleave in the game and that’s funny

[long wharf]

seriously?

[broken carbon]

cant it cleave a crusher

[buoyant maple]

22.4 cleave

It’s higher than like every melee weapon lol

[long wharf]

plasma projectile has a cleave of 100

[broken carbon]

technically it has the highest raw stat but sunder is still higher effectively

[broken carbon]

it used to

i think they changed that

[long wharf]

it still does

[buoyant maple]

Melee weapons

[strong gulch]

The cleave on staff bonk is silly

[long wharf]

that is patently absurd

classic FartShart

[buoyant maple]

Still 100 cleave

[upper sun]

you can cleave through WALLS

[broken carbon]

how about

i cleave

through

u

bazinga!

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[buoyant maple]

Fair & balanced

[broken carbon]

erm please do not curse

[upper sun]

canonically accurate

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-mulan-dishonor-on-you-dishonor-on-your-cow-gif-15086496

[broken carbon]

why do u hate bazinga so much

[long wharf]

because it fully encompasses everything that is wrong with TBBT

[buoyant maple]

With exe stance (actually gives plasma some rly huge breakpoints) plasma can become the ultimate spawn camp killing tool

[broken carbon]

when i said bazinga first pheonix wrote out a small paragraph as to why its objectively not funny

[upper sun]

oh yeah ive SEEN things

[buoyant maple]

U wallhack wallbang specials before they even walk out of doors

[long wharf]

that's fine for heresy-, but for auric damns, not taking the toughness shout is a massive opportunity cost

[broken carbon]

i mean

yeah

but shout is boring

[long wharf]

shout saves runs, literally

[broken carbon]

if ur decent enough at the game it doesnt really matter

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

nah, there's a point at which even a very good team gets shat upon by the AI director

[broken carbon]

a good exe stance vet will kill plenty

[upper sun]

i should run a macro for shoutvet that just automatically presses it for me each time its up

[broken carbon]

peak gameplay

[broken carbon]

dont forget a macro to just hold down m1 on ur recon las

[long wharf]

FartShart can't say anything about that either, they've publically approved of macro usage

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[upper sun]

ofc not

[broken carbon]

i thought they got rid of the always first hit for limbsplitter though

[upper sun]

i got so fucking lazy i use a macro to auto inject stims

[long wharf]

limbsplitter has an internal cooldown now

has for many patches

[broken carbon]

yeah i know

[upper sun]

i think they changed that already

[buoyant maple]

Limbsplitter is still bad

[upper sun]

didnt they?

[broken carbon]

but back when it was around

[broken carbon]

i meant the mod

[long wharf]

limbsplitter didn't need a macro to be obnoxious

[broken carbon]

but there was a macro that shartfart didnt like

[long wharf]

back in combat axe mk 5 days, limsplitter+brutal momentum was the best melee for psyker

[upper sun]

damn... thats so sad... 😭 what is it so i can not use it

[broken carbon]

it wouldnt work anymore lmfao

[ornate hamlet]

Limbsplitter could stand to have a more interesting activation like the shock mauls encourage

Like limbsplitter only activating after you do a special

[broken carbon]

limbsplitter should just kill everything because i dont like thinkning

[ornate hamlet]

But then it's kind of stepping into thrust territory with winding up the attack

[broken carbon]

i havent used an axe in this game in so long

[long wharf]

if FartShart had any creativity, they would make Limbsplitter proc whenever you hit an enemy's limb and not weakspot

[upper sun]

if i could make a macro that spams a button on by holding a button that would be fantastic but i cant find a program that does that

[mental rock]

wouldnt that just be worse lacerate

[long wharf]

give extra cleave when hitting an arm or leg

lacerate is bleed

[upper sun]

spamming sprint makes ogryn cycle H1 at instant speed its so good

[long wharf]

there's already a mod that does that

[broken carbon]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/88

[buoyant maple]

It’s basically made for Rashad

[upper sun]

thats lmb spam tho isnt it? does it work for sprint?

[broken carbon]

and knife and illisi

and

and

and

[buoyant maple]

Kinda takes away the fun of melee tho

[broken carbon]

and

and

idk

die

hadron

[buoyant maple]

Knife 6 is H1 > H2 > BC

[upper sun]

one blocked message

[broken carbon]

3 is l1l2l3l4l5l6

[buoyant maple]

With light mix

[upper sun]

oh wait its hadron

[jovial juniper]

Keep the free shard c'mon

[long wharf]

if you aren't spamming light melee with the combat knife, you are absolutely kniving wrong

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/1blocked-message-discord-meme-troll-brick-wall-gif-23392632

[buoyant maple]

Unfortunately mk3 is just outclassed by mk6

[broken carbon]

disagree

because i havent actuallym used a mk6

so

[buoyant maple]

[broken carbon]

i dont believe u

(im being petty)

[restive ice]

mk3 is better because more lights means more chances for kinetic flayer

[brazen warren]

play bleed knife on body shots to melt hordes, why aim when can spam. heavies for crushers with the extra rending, zoom fast

[long wharf]

if kinetic flayer didn't have a 15 second cooldown, it might be worth something

if it also benefitted from EP without consuming an EP charge, that'd be even better

[brazen warren]

should just give you a stack that makes your next BB double cast

same chance to get a proc

[strong gulch]

Even if the only change was target priority (like seeking out the highest hp target or something), it would be way better.

[ornate hamlet]

Y'know

RMB is kind of underutilized

[strong gulch]

Not DH, again.

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe kinetic flayer could store a double BB for RMB

Or maybe we could use the special action key on BB to manually do a kinetic flayer the next cast

[long wharf]

honestly, BB secondary needs to be changed

[ornate hamlet]

BECAUSE WE HAVE UNUSED BUTTONS

[strong gulch]

Remember when kinetic flayer used to proc on those pustule eye things? lol

glad that got fixed

[buoyant maple]

Buff its damage for better breakpoints? Since it takes longer to charge

If not an entire mechanical rework

[long wharf]

I'd rather it do something different

like make the BB secondary make the enemy violently explode and knock down things around it within a short range if the BB kills the enemy

the explosion damage and radius based on the max health of the enemy that died

[thorn cedar]

i would rather not see the right click reworked lol

to me its legitimately the one thing that makes BB useable

[long wharf]

useable?

if you're ever sitting on BB secondary waiting for a target, you're wasting your time

you could be moving into a better position or killing something else

[thorn cedar]

EP is nice but we had nothing but base BB for a year and learning to precharge and sprint slide around to pop targets as soon as they show is big utility that people sleep on

and EP makes precharge free

[long wharf]

it also makes BB fast enough that you have no need to sit on a BB secondary hold

[thorn cedar]

its also much safer in a hot situation to precharge and sprint slide around and then land the target instead of the opposite

[long wharf]

I mean, if you're putting yourself in danger just to get a BB off... I'd argue you're already doing something wrong

but then, if you're trying to use BB that often, it sounds more like you just like BB and want to use it more, which is fine

I basically never use BB

good, yall shut up finally, now I can get some work done.

[eager token]

why dont people understand that killing things is the best form of CC

why smite 300 dudes and wait for your team who is squirreling off in the corner to kill them when you can just do it yourself

[broken carbon]

wdym me standing there holding smite down isnt helping???

[jovial juniper]

What do you mean!!!?;?!?
They are not staggered!!!
Or flinching??!!
Or cowering!??!?

[broken carbon]

b-but ive only gone down 5 times

[eager token]

smite and bubble psykers

[long wharf]

funny dancing makes the seratonin

[analog agate]

“Support” psykers

[near drift]

Don't worry, when you're smiting you never have to dodge or look backwards because nothing can ever hit you in the back while casting trust me

[fiery wigeon]

smite is nice for stuff like rager packs

[thorn cedar]

just make sure you only smite near barrels to gain a secret buff

[strong gulch]

Flash to that moment when when I was spamming smite with nothing around a blew myself up. Peak gameplay.

[eager token]

smite is a nice oh shit button sometimes but spamming it is akin to being useless

[fiery wigeon]

yeah

does empowered smite do enough damage to actually kill things?

ive never tried it

[thorn cedar]

it does

[eager token]

with blazing shriek it clears a room

[fiery wigeon]

sweet

[thorn cedar]

blazing shriek already clears a room lol

[fiery wigeon]

ah

[eager token]

yeah but this does it cooler

[strong gulch]

Including ragers

[eager token]

it’ll delete like, everything

turn brain off

[buoyant maple]

Unfortunately, yes

[near drift]

If you combine with vent shriek and perilous combustion it'll wipe everything short of maulers and crushers in a few seconds

[fiery wigeon]

whats unfortunate about it

[eager token]

removes brain cells

[fiery wigeon]

maybe thats correlation

[buoyant maple]

The fact that this is unironically the most effective way to deal with Dreg rager spam
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1260682486304739431/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.07.10_-_15.41.07.02.mp4?ex=6690358f&is=668ee40f&hm=920cd9be424acf917704d74374784489ee52ba9f14261c8e217cabb61b7316f0&

[near drift]

I don't begrudge anyone taking it in pubs tbh sometimes the randoms are pretty bad and need help with the rager/crusher packs

[fiery wigeon]

zappy

tbh never really had too much issue with rager packs

they tend to come as just the ragers

its always the random rager in a sea of grunts

[untold niche]

random trapper behind ogryns

+1 flamer

[lethal lagoon]

Vast majority of damage comes from EP smite, the shriek is just there to extend the cast. The blazing is nice, but the DPS is too low compared to smite to contribute much to the damage.

And I mean yeah, 6 stacks of warpfire will kill all non-elites.

And it stacks with PC

But it's definitely the support not the star.

With Ep smite

[lethal lagoon]

Really the fundemental problem is that you take about 8 seconds to kill a rager.

You also take 8 seconds to kill 100 ragers.

Nothing should scale like that in a horde game

[buoyant maple]

Yea it just scales way too well vs elite groups

[thorn cedar]

if u smite for more than three seconds ur psyker should start making embarrasing wet fart noises

[sweet beacon]

remove smite

[upper sun]

remove rmb keep lmb smite

[lethal lagoon]

How would that help?

People would smite more

[thorn cedar]

you dont know that

sicko

[upper sun]

no they wouldnt its only single target

[lethal lagoon]

[thorn cedar]

maybe U like the smell of wet farts

but we have our dignity

[upper sun]

i like the single target smite for pox bursters

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

remove rmb smite and make smite quick cast like zealot knives

i want to smite a target while nuking it with my voidstick

[sweet beacon]

remove smite

push poxbursters

[lethal lagoon]

I'm going to push you

Onto new adventures and exciting vistas

[eager token]

make poxbursters immune to smite

[thorn cedar]

a cliff can be both those things

[lethal lagoon]

Make poxbursters react violently to lightning and increase their blast radius by 3x

[upper sun]

sometimes they ignore pushes but they NEVER ignore smite

[thorn cedar]

make them float up into the air like the david lynch baron harkonnen

[strong gulch]

"Make poxbursters react" is already asking a lot of fatshark.

[sweet beacon]

this never happens

[upper sun]

@sweet beacon tell me this isnt nice

[sweet beacon]

also push twice and dodge slide back

[sweet beacon]

this isn't nice

[upper sun]

i like it

[sweet beacon]

He was standing right beside a door that was clearly ticking

I wanted to see him blow up

[upper sun]

I SAVED A LIFE

[sweet beacon]

Not a life worth saving

[upper sun]

@sweet beacon #darktide-pics-vids message

[jovial juniper]

Make it so you can be away from poxbursters but still take damage because you didn't push it

[sweet beacon]

Guy on the right shot it

Knocked it onto you

[upper sun]

wouldnt happen if i was SMITING IT

[sweet beacon]

If it didn't blow up when you pushed it and it's not near any other teammate, just shoot it

Literally nothing would happen in the game if you were smiting

That's the point

[upper sun]

but still i am not going through another bolter reload animation for a poxburster id rather eat it

also explain this #darktide-pics-vids message

[sweet beacon]

Well, your buddy shot it

Shouldn't have hugged it

That was a Fatshark server moment

Also I fucking hate double poxbursters so much

[long wharf]

Darktide absolutely needs more wet fart sounds

like what I added to Valheim

[sweet beacon]

Never at the distance you can push both, and if you're not running knife you'll be caught in the blast

[strong gulch]

Imaging bursters duplicating themselves.

[upper sun]

you know what pox bursters need?

[long wharf]

electrolytes

[jovial juniper]

Into an immediate dive

[upper sun]

headshot executions where they dont blow up and just fall down where you kill them

so they function as barrels if you headshot them

[strong gulch]

yes

[long wharf]

imagine a poxburster exploding and spawning two more poxbursters

von neumann poxbursters

[sweet beacon]

I think poxbursters need flak armor

[long wharf]

they should be clad in carapace

[upper sun]

what if poxbursters were called freakbursters and instead of exploding they explode

i should have carapace yes

[analog agate]

Remember when buffed poxburster were immune to stagger? The playtester do

[upper sun]

imagine not getting paid and having to test several hours ney weeks of stagger resistant poxbursters

[long wharf]

to be fair, the entire playerbase has been playtesting since open beta

[upper sun]

^

[jovial juniper]

Exploding rats yay

[sweet beacon]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[radiant frigate]

close to min height personally

[upper sun]

middle is best

[eager token]

why bother pushing poxbursters when your team just trauma’s them right after back to you

darktide pvp

[lethal lagoon]

You know you play darktide too much when you take time in a near death situation to complain in chat

[long wharf]

💩

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

[lethal lagoon]

true and real

[upper sun]

god bless

[sweet beacon]

i hate darktide's contracts man

just have me kill 1000 elite/specials pls

[long wharf]

I like having the max mat collection ones

Sour Milk is going to need a rework once the crafting system allows us to make whatever we want

[upper sun]

that one is a humiliation ritual

[long wharf]

it's not so bad if you stick to maelstroms with poxpups

[upper sun]

uhhhh you gotta kill x enemies that may or may not be in the mission you're taking with either melee or ranged

nah fuck you

err not you but

[long wharf]

it's a slog to be sure, but poxpups is how I got through penances requiring specialist kills

[upper sun]

how about i fucking kill whatever enemy with either melee or ranged?

[long wharf]

the whole contract system needs to be reworked

[strong gulch]

I wish there was one with fewer complete missions.

[long wharf]

we aren't going to need the Sour Milk RNG shop once we're able to craft whatever we want

[upper sun]

just do twins

[strong gulch]

By mission 6 I'm fecking done.

nah

[long wharf]

which means Milkies will be pointless

there's zero reason to do any gambling with Sour Milk

[upper sun]

ive been melkmaxxing blessings since February i have all t4s for weapons i dont even use

[long wharf]

and 99.9% of his offerings are hot trash

[upper sun]

they can kill off melk for all i care

[long wharf]

we'll be able to unlock all perks and blessings just by playing, once the crafting update hits

[lethal lagoon]

I curse you to die to a barrel in every mission you play

[upper sun]

ill just play sedation

not even fall damage can kill you there

[hollow jolt]

crash at extract

[untold niche]

you can change the contracts you dont want
First one is free, second one is 2.5k dockets

[long wharf]

sedition with assail and OSHA railings everywhere

[untold niche]

the barrels have carapace level armour

[long wharf]

music gets changed to the TeleTubbies theme

enemies turn into motionless teddy bears

[untold niche]

dude thats the DH theme
if you anger the DH you get to see the sun baby

[long wharf]

DHs turn into Barney

[strong gulch]

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-teletubby-dancing-dance-gif-16022191

[long wharf]

... someone ought to make this a mod

[lethal lagoon]

You'll get netted by a silent trapper and none of your teammates know how to unnet you.

[untold niche]

sell two of your weapons ezpz

[untold niche]

actual problem in malice

[upper sun]

sedation doesnt have trappers

[strong gulch]

I sold some to afford a different thing. sadge

[lethal lagoon]

You would be fully knowledgeable about sedation

I still don't get how you run it.

[upper sun]

ye

sedation pro right here

[lethal lagoon]

The one time I tried for contracts 2 of my teammates couldn't figure out how to get to the elevator

They were literally level 30

I waited a solid 5 in there

[long wharf]

this is when you go into your inventory and are reminded of the hundred weapons you bought from the shop that weren't worth upgrading but you forgot to sell at the time

[untold niche]

go to other character and sell

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically the actual new players I run into while leveling an alt never do shit like that

[upper sun]

need me to carry you in low intensity sedation?

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically yes

[untold niche]

malice was genuinely hard becasue when i get trapped i lose

[strong gulch]

Same prob. Also I want to keep things. 🥺

[untold niche]

im carrying + they don't unnet

[long wharf]

I'm convinced that a lot of console players are children being handed a controller and being told "go ahead, it's easy"

[upper sun]

uhhhhh

[long wharf]

I'm going to call Hoarders Anonymous on you

[untold niche]

tbf darktide is a casual game :v

[upper sun]

im guilty of that

[lethal lagoon]

I don't like dismissing idiots by insulting children.

[strong gulch]

[upper sun]

i let the neighbors kid queue up for sedation

[untold niche]

its an action game, but a casual one

[lethal lagoon]

I've watched my cousin expertly play an FPS on a tablet, there's no way he's that dumb.

[upper sun]

gave him nightmares

[untold niche]

bro let him play auric 5
then say, when you die its my turn

he dies in 3 minutes

[upper sun]

youd be surprised

[long wharf]

okay, I have to correct you now - it's "sedition", not "sedation", regardless of how sleepy it makes you feel to play it

[upper sun]

he couldnt even WASD

[lethal lagoon]

I was just copying clad because I didn't know how to spell it either

[untold niche]

sadation

[lethal lagoon]

Sadnation

[untold niche]

sadation*

[upper sun]

I have taken antihistamines ill spell anuthing however i want

[long wharf]

sadation wins

[untold niche]

mf what you mean win

its the correct way to spell

[untold niche]

is that for headaches? let me google that

[lethal lagoon]

No this is the correct way to spell

[upper sun]

no for stuffy nose

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

oh allergic reactions

[long wharf]

when your nose gets stuffed up and runny, those are histimine reactions by your body

[upper sun]

makes u sleepy too

[lethal lagoon]

Those things put me to bed like a rock

[long wharf]

antihistimines counter that reaction

[upper sun]

which did not help my last auric run

[untold niche]

i bed your mom with MY rock

[lethal lagoon]

That just seems criminal

[untold niche]

my rock hard c-

[lethal lagoon]

I mean they are usually round

No one would call it "my rock"

[upper sun]

i bed ur rock

[lethal lagoon]

That's just dumb

Like your rock

[untold niche]

this implies i hadn''t finish typing dumbass

[lethal lagoon]

Your first comment didn't...

Did you just forget you typed it?

[untold niche]

yeah it was the follow up

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it was way too slow

[untold niche]

punch line

sorry mr fast

[lethal lagoon]

That's something you know a lot about

[untold niche]

yeh im fast to make your mom c-

cry in joy

[lethal lagoon]

come home because she was seriously dissapointed?

[untold niche]

im her best friend

[lethal lagoon]

Alright, this is a little uch

[untold niche]

what uch mean

[lethal lagoon]

[long wharf]

womp womp

[untold niche]

you mean ouch?

[long wharf]

definitely enough, though

getting into zealot channel territory

psykers keep it classy

[untold niche]

zealot channel has full of actual prisoners

we are just juvie

go away pfun-police

[sweet beacon]

yeah i'd rather have it be elites/specials of any kind

i love getting ranged kills with my zealot

[untold niche]

btw do the melk missions restock evberyday or weelk

[untold niche]

go flamer ezpz

[long wharf]

weekly contracts

[sweet beacon]

i'd like to play the game

[upper sun]

i think its wrong to limit it in both ways feels too restrictive

[untold niche]

yeah WEEKLY

@ clad as well

im pretty sure i hit it before just by using kant shotgun

im a elite gamer

[sweet beacon]

how do i erase someone

[upper sun]

either scab kills with melee or ranged
OR scab/dreg melee kills

[upper sun]

i'm very autistic i cant enjoy the game until i finish weeklies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg2PD-dwsIw

[untold niche]

i have high doubts that you are autistic

[upper sun]

who knows

[long wharf]

he might be, but I've never taken that as an excuse to not make fun of people

[upper sun]

all i know is I NEED to melk max

[untold niche]

simp

[upper sun]

i'm a simp with thrus4 for thammer

and pc4

and lacerate

[sweet beacon]

why can you say autistic but i can't wtf

[untold niche]

[sweet beacon]

oh that's dumb

[untold niche]

almost

[untold niche]

@lethal lagoon

[sweet beacon]

400?

https://tenor.com/view/domzemljak-gif-18566818

[upper sun]

hes also 400 times better than me when i had only 400 hours and just played malice

[untold niche]

BUT WHO IS THE ONE ASKING FOR ADVICE HERE

[sweet beacon]

not me?

[untold niche]

oh really? damn.

[sweet beacon]

400 hours on malice is crazy though

[upper sun]

i got bad advice 😭

[untold niche]

eh, i learnt this game in about 80 hours.
genuinely not a hard game anyway

[upper sun]

a youtuber that shall remain nameless said that malice was the best way to grind plasteel

[untold niche]

like with all the build crafting and stuff ofc

[quartz barn]

https://i.imgur.com/LLABXM6.png

[untold niche]

not just how to dodge trappers, that would be insane of course

[quartz barn]

not bad i guess

[untold niche]

is that 300 or 3000

[quartz barn]

https://i.imgur.com/1nBnKkj.png

[untold niche]

mrasianrobot??

MR FAKE MY ACCENT?

[upper sun]

yes

[quartz barn]

334,6 hours

so less than you

[untold niche]

[untold niche]

is the comma a decimal?

[quartz barn]

atleast i got all achievs

ye idk its like 40 mins

[untold niche]

ah

[untold niche]

1.4k and no thammer god roll

[upper sun]

crafting update will fix it

[quick python]

[quartz barn]

[untold niche]

[quick python]

I've had a godhammer since thrust was broken

[upper sun]

i legit got gone bawling like 2 weeks ago

[untold niche]

same, it could be that they reset / fix the steam achievement.

this seems like a really, really stupid penance in the context of darktide.

[quick python]

do you only play psyker

[upper sun]

its really easy

[untold niche]

played oggie till +8/10
then zealot till +80 i think
Then psyker to +80 as well

[upper sun]

i got it on my first try

[lethal lagoon]

Is that you when you get your wizard powers at 30?

[untold niche]

its more about the spirit of the achievement

you would see these kind of achievements in tf2

which makes sense

[sweet beacon]

grind

bro fell for the legend screaming bell run scam..

[brittle wigeon]

not to brag or anything

[untold niche]

im not even 30 you meanie

[upper sun]

yeah yeah yeah laugh all you want

[brittle wigeon]

may or may not have done "on overwatch" no cheese, no modifier

[untold niche]

sorry i can't hear you over all your VOC shouts

[upper sun]

i started playing before hell divers 2 came out

[brittle wigeon]

idk what that means

[upper sun]

and the friend that introduced me to the game left to hd2 before he could teach me the game

[elder glade]

voice of command

[sweet beacon]

not as dumb as hitting a sniper with a stun nade from 40m away

[brittle wigeon]

i didn't use this, i was like level 10

[sweet beacon]

unfortunate

[upper sun]

queue up for vent purge
throw one stun
get the penance
leave

[sweet beacon]

i enjoyed helldivers for a solid 30 hours or so

[sweet beacon]

dude. sec.

[untold niche]

are you sure you are not bragging

[brittle wigeon]

[upper sun]

do it now

[sweet beacon]

no

i'm doing the loner and shroudfield penances now

[brittle wigeon]

i'd kms

[untold niche]

genuine question is the hard part arcing the nade or getting the sniper to sit still

[sweet beacon]

actually having a good time, despite loner being shit

the hard part is someone not killing him before the nade arrives

cause you know

[untold niche]

dude in SEA i had to kill snipers as the ogryn

[sweet beacon]

why the fuck would you throw a nade at a sniper 40m away

oh, same

[fiery wigeon]

sniper squishy and extremely high priority

[sweet beacon]

but i suddenly had decent teammates when i tried to do the penance

[upper sun]

so you can walk to it

[untold niche]

i could throw the whole maps worth of nades before my teammates aims at the sniper

[brittle wigeon]

ITS TO MAKE YOU REPENT

THATS WHAT PENANCE IS

[sweet beacon]

people love queuing into HI-STG to either fight 5 poxwalkers at most or fight a single bulwark for 40 seconds

[untold niche]

anyway, very stupid achievements for darktide.

[brittle wigeon]

voluntary self-punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for having done wrong.

[upper sun]

why would you stun a man before shooting him to death?
you're a zealous guy

[untold niche]

no pleasure without some pain

[upper sun]

THERES NO FLAVOR

[brittle wigeon]

penance is suppose to suck............

[upper sun]

WITHOUT SPORT

[untold niche]

yeah...

[brittle wigeon]

i love how the ladies like
"ah shit uh fuck uhm idk...... throw a stun grenade at a sniper but....... far away YEAH"

STUN THAT SNIPER BUT FAR AWAY TO REPENT FOR..... IDK WHAT YOU DID

[fiery wigeon]

[sweet beacon]

[long wharf]

you're not supposed to look too closely at the penances

[brittle wigeon]

it symbolizes..... the emeprors lightning.....whatever

[sweet beacon]

Calling the inquisition

[brittle wigeon]

my bad for having a wrong-think

[lethal lagoon]

It's illegal to stand 40+ meters away from a zealot who wants to kill you, everyone knows this.

I'm suspecting you are a heretic

[brittle wigeon]

20 more "on overwatch" games

[untold niche]

eh, tbh the concept is just that do hard thing to prove that you are sorry / repenting

[orchid shadow]

Eyyyy, part 39 meter legion!

[sweet beacon]

Pain

[brittle wigeon]

this is disgusting

[long wharf]

beats being given nothing but a chainsword and thrown at the heretics naked to see if you really are repenting

[untold niche]

bro just throw one time

[brittle wigeon]

this one was kinda fun tho

arching a nade to explode over a group of people but not hit the ground was fun

[quartz barn]

i got it on my first attempt lmao

not too hard tbh, just throw it in a horde from a distance

[sweet beacon]

I disagree.

[orchid shadow]

Nuh uh. My screenshot says otherwise. Iz proof.

[untold niche]

DT penance : let's make something that is whacky but also super hard to do yet barely thematic at all!

[strong gulch]

Push one guy 1000 meters.

Just keep rolling him around.

[orchid shadow]

Gotta push an enemy from the from the beginning of the level to the end. Darktide's version of the L4D Gnome

[sweet beacon]

Make it a poxburster and it'd be a funny challenge

An incredibly dangerous Chompski

[strong gulch]

Only use bonk. Staff bonk, revolver bash, etc

[upper sun]

nah force push does a lot less damage

[strong gulch]

These are for damage. Push is push. Bonk and bash is for damage.

Stay crouched the whole mission for x number of missions.

[sweet beacon]

Oh just saw a Reddit post asking for help to do On Overwatch

Insane

[upper sun]

NEED 3 SMYKERS

LFG

[sweet beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/yuckers-yummers-homelander-its-yummers-gif-10513465113292340707

[long wharf]

Yuckers? Really?

[late sapphire]

4 psyker round

very fun

[haughty star]

may not look like it to you but this is what peak assail gunplay looks like

[jovial juniper]

Yummen't

[copper dust]

thx

[broken carbon]

not yummers

[potent echo]

Still need barrel jump penance

Travel 1km using barrels only

[jovial juniper]

Extra barrels Gloriana

[strong gulch]

RMB charge BB places barrels. New move tech. ✨

[untold niche]

are u still playing

[south gull]

These maelstrom spawns have been stupid as of late

wish you could head pop 2-3 people at a time

at the expense of peril

[fiery wigeon]

u and me on same brainwave

peak gaming

[potent echo]

Auric QP spawns are crazy too

It's like oops all 10 dreg gunners

[mild bear]

any recommendations on what to replace Riposte with?

[potent echo]

Unstable

Slaughterer

Executor

[strong gulch]

@feral verge Likes uncanny + executor. It's strong suit is as a single target weapon.

Yeah all three. Unstable, slaughterer, executor.

[lethal lagoon]

Opps Only Shotgunners modifer

[strong gulch]

Das a lot purples melk.

@lethal lagoon Where is you smite build. I know you have posted multiple times, but I'm too potato to find it.

[lethal lagoon]

And then a surge with unyielding and carpace

[lethal lagoon]

That's the perfect level of potato to run EP Smite

[strong gulch]

Thanks! I'll have to roll a new surge. I changed my ability activation key bind. I'll totally remember.

[lethal lagoon]

I promise my choice of surge staff isn't just copium for all the staves I kept getting carpace on.

[strong gulch]

Oh. Hadron was nice.

[lethal lagoon]

Is pushing you into the all encompassing inescapable arms of EP smite shriek being nice?

Hadron gonna Hadron, even if it seems like Hadron didn't Hadron

[strong gulch]

I didn't fund her brick fetish at least.

[potent echo]

What does brunt do with all our bricks

[lethal lagoon]

Puts them in the melk store

Unironically

[potent echo]

One pocket into another pocket

[brazen warren]

that just gives me the mental image of him just having so many cargopants pockets all over, he just took the pants and crudely stitched them together to hold more things

[strong gulch]

I played a game with my changed key bind and it didn't go great. shocking /s

[potent echo]

He stitched more pants onto his pants

[broken carbon]

@spice veldt do u think illisi is an S+ melee weapon

compared to all other melee options

[spice veldt]

i don't use it much so i don't have an accurate evaluation, but it has force sword stats so i'd put it high up there, just not S+ tier

[lost pewter]

I love when bad players blame you for keeping them alive and they don't know mechanics

"You're bad psych, put bubble here instead of keeping us alive to revive others"

[broken carbon]

fair

[lyric burrow]

i dont think it competes with the top tiers anymore honestly

i also dont play it much anymore but its very good

[broken carbon]

guys ur supposed to be on my side

stick to the script

[lyric burrow]

depends how you list tiers but id put it A if S was best

so like S in your case ig

[untold niche]

Left click spam kill horde

Ezpz

[lyric burrow]

A+ maybe

[untold niche]

Special fill toughness

[lyric burrow]

but it has uncanny

good special

[untold niche]

Right click blok boolet

[lyric burrow]

good stats and ADMs thanks to FS general stats

but i honestly dont value horde clear that much, at least to the point illisi brings

its nice but most horde clear will do anyway

[orchid shadow]

I hope the designer that though Terrifying Barrage was a good idea has all their ice cream melt. I'm seeing waaaay too many Psykers with that.

[spice veldt]

the barrage is terrifying

[potent echo]

Nah terrifying barrage works

In malice

[lyric burrow]

dude i love a blessing that is just a default trait of the weapon

[fiery wigeon]

wussat

[potent echo]

Where suppression actually works

And doesnt go away in .5seconds

But the devs admittedly dont test on damnation

[spice veldt]

suppression is the thing where enemies bend down and cower

[fiery wigeon]

no i meant terrifying barrage

[spice veldt]

o

suppression on 8m on close kill

[fiery wigeon]

ah

yeah

[spice veldt]

or something to that effect

[potent echo]

Should be amazing but it's just poo

[fiery wigeon]

every goddamn ranged weapon has that lol

[potent echo]

It works behind you as well which is great

If suppression didn't go away in less than 1 sec

[spice veldt]

ranged enemies being within 8m probably not being a threat anyways

and also groaners being the only melee enemy that get affected

[potent echo]

You need to actually pull out melee so you magetise them

If you have your ranged out they just all walk back and shoot you

Terrifying could have let you gun in the middle of shooter clumps but it just doesn't in damnation

[lethal lagoon]

yes that's the point.

Fighting for worst blessing in the game lmao

especially on staves which already have crazy suppression.

[near wyvern]

Don't forget most melee enemies are immune to suppression

Terrifying barrage should trigger at the target killed, change my mind

[somber lagoon]

how hard is Malleous Monstronum penance to do?

[near wyvern]

That was the BB slug? The hardest part is to get the rest of the team co-operate.

[ashen schooner]

super easy assuming you can get a group

[somber lagoon]

would be pretty easy to get someone to ogryn tank and do it in private wouldnt it?

[near wyvern]

If you can't get a group get in a Maelstrom where it spawns increased specialists with chance of specialists becoming weaker monstrosities

[patent jacinth]

You take the Kinetic Resonance subnode of BB and the variant of the Shield ability that gives you 2

They stack so you can do it very quickly

[ashen schooner]

pretty sure it has to be private anyways now

[near wyvern]

That might be the case

[near wyvern]

Yes and no. You need someone to watch for other specialists so for DH you need at least 3 people total. Slug is easiest as 2 as long as you find a ladder. The weaker monstrosities also count so if you have that maelstrom available it's definitely the easiest way to do it.

[somber lagoon]

ill keep an eye out for it. cheers

[potent echo]

Did they patch out the metalfab cheese spot

[somber lagoon]

?

[potent echo]

It's too troublesome to explain

[somber lagoon]

fair

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[upper sun]

no 😭 i was making a joke about the reddit vet that needed help with overwatch

[untold niche]

[supple dock]

CANT PRESS SPACEBAR FOR YOU SONNY

[upper sun]

aaaa twins are empty

i need to melkmaxx

[potent echo]

Some people play with music on and the smallest fov at 15fps okay it's hard

[quartz barn]

Average xbox gameplay moment

[potent echo]

Oh Lord TV to console input delay

[slow anvil]

So are those mods or have they changed some settings to get that info when you tabbed?

[potent echo]

Literally impossible

[upper sun]

THIRD SERVER IVE TRIED SO FAR

NO ONE IS DOING TWINS

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[potent echo]

Why do 8 missions when you can do kills

[upper sun]

I believe being forced to use either melee or ranged for one type of enemies is humiliating

[potent echo]

It's shared across the whole team

I always complete it before 8 missions

[upper sun]

thats even worsr

e

what if my teammate has ranged and i have melee?

[potent echo]

I'm just sharing my experience

8 missions is poopy

[upper sun]

OK

im gonna touch grass

[potent echo]

Wait what mission is this

[hearty dagger]

Carnival

The Stimm Lab one, Warren something something

[potent echo]

Looks odd without the massive fog