psyker-class

[upper sun]

it was hell during the penance update

every mission with a vet was non stop vent purge

idk if twin blasts counted for double progression but by god it should count as a war crime

[jovial juniper]

[tired estuary]

I hope the next wave of penances continues to teach players to use resources incorrectly

[upper sun]

i hope they add easy ones

getting to 4500 broke me

[buoyant maple]

I’m sure that’s more from ogryn than from veteran

[upper sun]

i just skipped the bad ogryn ones

box heavy hitter and taunt

[buoyant maple]

Would u rather play with smokes for 3 games or hold m1 the entire time on ogryn for 13 games

[upper sun]

m1 ogryn

[buoyant maple]

[lofty escarp]

I haven't even touched the ogryn penances yet

im scared

[upper sun]

mercantile

[lofty escarp]

the knife ones broke me since I hate knives

[buoyant maple]

4500 procs of lucky bullet

[upper sun]

not that bad

[buoyant maple]

At 12% chance that’s basically
Shoot 37500 shots

[upper sun]

go to mercantile and nuke the hoard 25 times

i just queued it up

nuked and left

[buoyant maple]

Heavy hitter is pretty tedious too

But not as much brain Dmg as lucky bullet

[upper sun]

i used to give ammo crates to ogryn in sedation and tell them to go afk

ill do the mission while they shoot

[thorn cedar]

i capped out before needing to finish ogryn penances

thank fuck

[ornate hamlet]

Emperor's gift

Old one

[lethal lagoon]

The emperor just loves voidstrike.

[ornate hamlet]

I'm gonna see how it goes with warp flurry

Probably meh, but

[lethal lagoon]

I did the math and with true aim it should actually be better.

It depends on how you land the headshots.

[ornate hamlet]

I'll land them in the upper head

[lethal lagoon]

Also keep in mind I'm very much in the "My moves were calculated but boy am I bad at math category" when it comes to darktide

[ornate hamlet]

At least you can do some form of math

I forgot everything the moment I stepped out of engineering

[lethal lagoon]

When my AP stats counted for a 200 level math course I think I might have actually cried tears of joy.

So the only "math" I had were CS classes with math in them, but no actual math classes

Perfect edging warp nexus increases DPS by about 42%, with overkill problems.
Warp Flurry increases void DPS by a flat 25.5%, less overkill problems, and shooting faster means more true aim.

Also less taxing in terms of edging requirements.

[shadow oar]

is flak or unyielding better for recon las build

[strong gulch]

flak

[cosmic sigil]

i put crit chance and unyielding on it

still burn everything to the ground

[ornate hamlet]

Playing staff serves to tell me why I go back to guns ngl

I think the staff charging gets really awkward sometimes

It like guns being snappy and ready to fire at full power

[cosmic sigil]

if only we could have another mechanic...

[upper galleon]

no need for crit chance with true aim imo

cause crit chains

[cosmic sigil]

yeah but i need to proce true aim

man i should use power di to see how often i proce it

[spice veldt]

we will get a staff that is a proper analog to a gun one day

[upper galleon]

it's 4 weakspot hits (and if it works like headhunter blessing, it will on the shots after the 1st crit in the crit chain)

[spice veldt]

my grandchildren will get to enjoy its release with me

[upper galleon]

fatshark heard psykers wanting shotgun staff so they just gave y'all shotguns

[spice veldt]

we better get brautos as well

[upper galleon]

p. sure but it's not like spyker would be isnane with brautos

lot of their bonuses is crit and weakspot

[spice veldt]

yeah though they're nice and comfy to use

[cosmic sigil]

yeah, but i don't miss flak or maniac tbh, and 5% crit chance helps when i don't proce true aim

that was my reasoning

[cosmic sigil]

you would go warp charges with them

[upper galleon]

but true aim is every 5 weakspot hits, with recon that's quick asf

basically headhunter blessing

you would do more with flak, maniac, elites, even unarmored imo

[ornate hamlet]

I think that a staff that actually has a hitscan LMB would be nice

Not even because I can't aim projectiles, but projectiles feel really janky with any ping in this game

I can do funny cross-map Kraber shots in Titanfall and can't aim the fucking funny ball here

[spice veldt]

projectiles + ping + the goddamn stagger

[ornate hamlet]

Suppression, more like headshot limiter

I still remember the time I went to throw a knife on a gunner and this purgatus psyker suppressed him at the same time

[cosmic sigil]

i would probably change that to elites

[ornate hamlet]

Worse even is that everything is basically "not revolver/plasma" in my head because I got too used to meleeing and leaving ranged to snipe specials and elites

So when a ranged weapon doesn't behave like a portable railgun, I get annoyed

[long wharf]

if you can aim consistently, surge+transfer is very good

[lethal lagoon]

I think it's good from a I'm chilling perspective, but that's throwing away too much DPS to be in the same tier.

[long wharf]

you aren't losing any DPS if you have True Aim, which you absolutely should

[lethal lagoon]

You aren't losing DPS from missing warp nexus or flurry, what?

You absolutely are.

Transfer peril is no where near effective enough to make up for that.

[long wharf]

if you're trying to keep void as your primary weapon, peril and quelling is what ultimately stops you

I'm not arguing that surge+transfer is meta

[lethal lagoon]

That's unironically a skill issue.
Which is why I said it's good from a "I'm chilling perspective"

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lethal lagoon]

[long wharf]

I don't use void to sit back and play Click Simulator 2024

in fact, on auric maelstroms, I swap out void for either purge or trauma

[lethal lagoon]

[long wharf]

I almost never play with void as a primary weapon these days

[lethal lagoon]

This is my issue when you join theory discussions.

Whatever personal experience you are drawing from is completely illrevelant to the people asking questions here.

[long wharf]

1. I never claim my personal experience defines how others should play

2. throwing out ideas isn't the same as telling other people how to play

3. I'm always open to having my mind changed by facts or better ideas

I'm not dogmatic, and I've dug through the game Lua as much as anybody has, I bet

here, anyways, I'm very sure the active modders have dug through it more

anywho, I do like chatting with the people here that clearly play the game at a higher skill than average, and most of us care about objective measures and numbers

that's what makes psyker chat the superior chat

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-gif-422986456194430824

me brain bursting at 96%

[long wharf]

that cat looks like it just ran a marathon

[strong gulch]

On the subject of comfy play.

It's been a long time since I used assail + trauma. That's it. It was so comfy to use.

[long wharf]

got them involuntary shakes

assail+trauma can be very comfy

I still hate the aiming of trauma secondary

[azure bridge]

Hey so for blaze trauma staff, its 5% crit and 25% damage vs what?

flak? Maniacs?

[strong gulch]

flak

[azure bridge]

gotcha

[strong gulch]

valid.

Me panic jumping trying to get that long distance charge shot

[long wharf]

FartShart should either just make it a projectile and give us a predictor path or make the aiming Line-of-Sight

[ornate hamlet]

Can you headshot with trauma if you aim the thing in the air?

[long wharf]

nope

it's an aoe

[ornate hamlet]

Not based

[long wharf]

it only hits bodies

all blasts work that way

[ornate hamlet]

I'm gonna hit the body of who made that

in Minecraft, that is

[long wharf]

unless you live in Sweden, good luck with that

and if you do live in Sweden, I am in no way advocating for physical violence against the devs

[ornate hamlet]

it's virtual violence in Minecraft

[long wharf]

you could, however, leave a very sternly written letter under their door

[ornate hamlet]

I'm putting TNT under John Fatshark's pressure plate

[lethal lagoon]

Hmm, now that I'm looking, you wern't responding to our dicussion but just my staff.

[long wharf]

.... yeah

[lethal lagoon]

[long wharf]

yup.

[lethal lagoon]

My bad.

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/womp-womp-conan-coco-gif-22970579

[lethal lagoon]

It's so weird seeing a talk show host that isn't cringe.

Or maybe I'm just in the correct demographic for him

Jimmy Fallon

[long wharf]

I haven't watched a talk show in a very long time

decade maybe?

[lethal lagoon]

I've seen youtube clips, but watched a full episode, been a while yeah

[long wharf]

last time I watched one with any regularity was the late show with david letterman

[upper sun]

bro will not stop edging swedish feds

[long wharf]

I initially read that as "will not stop edging swedish fish", and you had me very concerned

[upper sun]

we just need to kidnap the fatshark devs feed them Adderall and teach them git

[lethal lagoon]

dev*

[strong gulch]

same. I read swedish fish

[long wharf]

given how much they love Lua, I'm not sure git is enough

[upper sun]

itll at least help with the version control issues

[long wharf]

though git would automatically be an improvement

watch them setup a separate repo for each dev

[upper sun]

neither the rager changes nor the shooter changes were meant to be included in the patch lmao

[long wharf]

and then manually copy commits into a "actual master" folder on a server

and to make it easier in their minds, they all just work in their master branches

and when someone does something others want, they just copy files from that dev's workstation

... my god, that must be what they're actually doing

[upper sun]

lets hope they accidentally push the changes of the one dev that sets all of the upgrade costs to zero

[long wharf]

I'm feeling a pain in my gut, the kind of pain that you get when you're looking at a million line codebase and come to the realization that you can never fix it

[dusk violet]

did purgatus staff get nerfed in the past few months? i just started playing again after been gone for a while and it feels different...

[long wharf]

it's never felt particularly strong or impactful, despite its performance

it still horde clears with ease

[strong gulch]

The LMB / primary can no longer stagger ogryn enemies and ogryns have more stagger resistance.

[long wharf]

does it still stagger ragers?

[strong gulch]

yes

[dusk violet]

that's what i noticed... i feel like it has less stagger

[lethal lagoon]

Is there a term for not being able to tell profiles apart, cause I thought jants was you, same colors.

[strong gulch]

It staggers everything else that isn't a mutant, chrusher, bulwak, or boss.

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

By gone a while, did you play after the talent patch?

[dusk violet]

yes

[strong gulch]

I think it just suppresses reapers. I can't remember now.

[lethal lagoon]

There was a general rager buff.

Might make purg feel worse.

[long wharf]

everyone chatting right now has the same colors, though

[lethal lagoon]

I think you underestimated what I meant.

[long wharf]

unless you don't mean the name color

[lethal lagoon]

You vastly underestimated me

Or rather overestimated

Depending how you wanna phrase it.

[long wharf]

if I overestimated you, that'd mean you would stupider

just a misunderstanding on my part

not a reflection of you

psykers constantly have episodes

it's what makes us interesting

[wise sundial]

Anyone play this on psyker? Also is it dead because the range is crazy low?

[long wharf]

I don't play psyker to use guns

that said, I would think the constant reloading, even when 70% faster, is going to hurt your dps enough that it'll still be easily outshined by the columnus IAG

using Scrier's Gaze

[tired estuary]

Its not great with scriers afaik

also just kinda not great on psyker in general but its still Funny and assail at least covers its weaknesses well

[long wharf]

come crafting update, psykers will have the other shotguns again

[analog agate]

Is there a potential for the current shottys to be good on psyker? Or is this just a thing where people want to use them and can’t for reasons

[long wharf]

shotguns got taken away from psykers on release

[tired estuary]

kantrael so you can light them on fire while they're on fire

[long wharf]

in the open beta, they were kind of fun to use on psyker, or so I hear

[tired estuary]

idk

[long wharf]

frankly, I think psykers need more warp weapons, not regular weapons

[steel flame]

More staffs more force weapons

Instead we get scraps made for other classes

A good start would be giving each staff a unique m1 instead of a generic afterthought fireball

[tired estuary]

we def need more staves but idk, hard to balance that shit

[ornate hamlet]

The new shotgun is pretty fine on psyker

[steel flame]

Well we will never know how hard it is to balance if they literally never bother to try

[ornate hamlet]

Both barrels and manstopper will ensure you blast a lot of shit and reload fast with whatever you very likely kill

Given assail's range and spammability, the shotgun also pairs well with it

[long wharf]

I want the staves to have unique specials that are warp-based

not the pathetic poke they are now

[strong gulch]

If the poke was quick like the DS special, I'd use it. With the weird delay and windup, I'd rather just have the speacial replaced with a fart sound.

[long wharf]

I make fart noises whenever I use it

with my mouth

just like whenever I heavy swing the branx, I say "bonk" out loud

god this game needs more content

I keep wanting to play more, but then remember how bored I am of the current content

[analog agate]

I have been enjoying ogryn with branx. With the exception of the ammo hungry gun ogryn, ogryn is by far the lowest tier character in the game. But the pickaxes are a lot of fun

[long wharf]

they're a ton of fun

[analog agate]

I will say I do kinda miss prepatch 13. Less specials, less elites, more horde

And harder

[long wharf]

yeah, the AI director is still nuts right now

[analog agate]

Well, harder in the sense we can be so OP right now

[long wharf]

almost as if the bug for heresy on release is back

on top of increased elite group sizes

if we weren't as strong as we are now, auric damnation maelstroms would be literally impossible

[analog agate]

There are definitely aspects of maps that are just nuts. Broken bridge at beginning of hab dreyko is always insane

Spot after tram on new map is always a gamble

[long wharf]

the new map has several wipe-condition rooms

[analog agate]

I have been enjoying it. Unless I play ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

REVERB FART REVERB FART REVERB FART

[haughty star]

lol

don't mind if i doooo

hadrons a lil bitch

ive straight up been loving the recon on psyker lol

it might not have the greatest ammo economy but god damn is it a fun un'

i use the 6

[stiff falcon]

still sub 3 mil damage games tho

the great auric filter will retvrn soon

[haughty star]

that and auric players are just god awful.

rn

i'm no hotshot myself but

[stiff falcon]

EU is funny

5 deaths a mission

[haughty star]

it's so bad.

just did a auric damn with 2 zealots and a ogryn where i had to decode the phage tree poisoneers

as a fucking psyker lol

i'm like come tf on dudes

17 deaths lol not a single one was me

[crimson roost]

any changes?

[crimson roost]

first time playing psyker

[haughty star]

elites to maniacs and unstable to uncanny and you got you a forever sword there

obscurus is weird and can be interesting later but illisi is always gonna be a staple of your arsenal and that thar's a pretty good one

also if those balances aren't suss that's hella impressive lol

[broken carbon]

get more weapons

[broken carbon]

hate.

[wind spruce]

Ditch weakspot damage and ditch transfer peril

[broken carbon]

swap weakspot to flak, keep transfer peril, and roll another staff and try to get surge and warp nexus

transfer peril and warp flurry can be fun, but it isnt the best

also if you dont know, weakspot damage isnt calculated the way that you'd think, it adds nearly no damage

[wind spruce]

Warp flurry & warp nexus or warp flurry & surge is much better

[broken carbon]

with those you really can only shoot a couple of times before ur over peril

so i dont think u get that much benefit from flurry imo

transfer peril lets you shoot a lot

ik it isnt great

but its fun

[wind spruce]

You can quell without losing flurry stacks

Flurry is hugely beneficial

Warp flurry will translate into more shots taken then transfer Peril will, since quelling from 100 to zero takes less than 25% of the time that using void from 0 to 100% peril takes

That's without taking into account that there's downtime when you can't meaningfully shoot anything but you can quell

[broken carbon]

hm

fair

[broken carbon]

low pen stat kinda sucks

but its decent

id swap shred for precog but i think its mostly up to preference

[haughty star]

is rending ever useful?

[crimson roost]

bam

[broken carbon]

nice

[crimson roost]

what do i want on trauma staff?

[patent jacinth]

Depends on whether you want it for a crit build or not

[crimson roost]

no crit

[patent jacinth]

Warp flurry and rending shockwave I think

[patent jacinth]

I have no idea about perks though

[hoary sky]

I love smite surge so much B)

[quartz barn]

For trauma you either run flurry+rending or nexus+blazing

[hearty dagger]

Ngl it's funny to think that people talk like "They should just exterminatus Atoma/Send in space marines"

When it's mentioned that while the 6th are very much a force to be reckoned with, outside of heretic controlled sectors, it's more or less business as usual.

Straight up just a regular tuesday in the imperium

[crimson roost]

i got my 3 builds

[patent jacinth]

Sad about the perks on that thing

[crimson roost]

why? more crit?

[patent jacinth]

Crit damage isn’t calculated how you think

If you were to do 100 damage and had a 75% finesse modifier (crit multiplier) you would do 175 damage

You would expect that 10% to be directly added to the 75% giving you 85 extra damage

But it works weirdly and increase the extra crit damage by 10%

Resulting in 7.5 extra damage instead of 10 extra damage

[haughty star]

the ol' reliable

[patent jacinth]

Y x (1.75+.1) vs (Y x 1.75)-Y x .1

[haughty star]

post yo build homie

[patent jacinth]

Crit and weakspot damage does way less than you think

[hoary sky]

I love zappin folks

[crimson roost]

Well, 6-7 million ordo dockets and 50k plasteel later and i got 3 builds

https://tenor.com/view/pinky-friday-after-next-laugh-gif-15374345

also got my moebian 6th armor just now and finished the penance board

im one of you guys now

appreciate the help

[ornate abyss]

what do I improve

[vernal temple]

next step is to complete all the penances

[quartz barn]

Barrel gaming

[plucky flax]

Invested to flak. Speedload to pinning fire.

[crimson roost]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-simpson-gif-13518564799186478937

[ornate abyss]

did that in vermintide. Currently doing it in darktide 😄

atoma elite guard, orthus hard mode and barrels are the only hard ones left

[ornate abyss]

alrighty thanks. What build would I use with it?

[plucky flax]

I'd go with assail and creeping flames. Auto pistol is not a headshot weapon but dd is still very strong for assail.

[vernal temple]

I did those. I have like 7 more penances left to do. auric maelstroms, get to 250 auric missions, complete around 30 more Lights Out missions. the rest are the 500.000 enemies killed (still need around 100k), Situational Awareness (5) and revive around 200 more players from captivity

[untold niche]

i tried bpistol on vet and i find it really bad, at least have 1 pierce for bulwarks man.

[tired estuary]

just scream at them so loud they drop their guard

[untold niche]

:v

like why would you ever pick bpistol over revolvo

[tired estuary]

why do anything

[untold niche]

fucker you

you know what i mean

[tired estuary]

idk what else to say b/c some shit is always gonna be outshined by other shit

[untold niche]

ASS is now officially out of trrend

[untold niche]

yeh and dats bad :(

[tired estuary]

that's just the reality of games with different options, perfect balance isn't reasonably possible

[untold niche]

i don't mind sidegrades

[untold niche]

i beat my own record for ranged elite!

[hearty dagger]

Ngl

I feel like people who say wound curios are bad because they bet against yourself are either dumb or zealot speedrunners

Ah yes, let me not take extra padding in case some random bullshit happens or i get poxbursted

[wind spruce]

An extra 30 health also pushes me above breakpoints, though.

[hearty dagger]

The breakpoint doesn't matter when you'll eat shit within the next 5 seconds

[wind spruce]

Why is it inevitable that you'll eat shit within the next few seconds?

[hearty dagger]

-> Gunners
-> Random Bullshit Go ahhh spawns
-> The inevitable random guy from behind that bops you on the head
-> Scab Shooter

[wind spruce]

Idk, I just don't go down so often in situations where someone will be able to pick me up that I need an extra down between medicae stations

[hearty dagger]

Plus extra health bars make you feel tankier even if you're technically less tanky

[wind spruce]

I'd rather be alive after the poxburster or sniper hits me than downed and somehow feeling happy that I brought an extra wound so atleast I can go down again

[hearty dagger]

Unfortunately the people i play with consist of:
Zealot that will shoot every poxburster and SOMEHOW END UP MAKING THEM STAGGER INTO US
Newbie psyker that dies every .5 seconds
New player that refuses to play a class after hitting 30 thinking that he'll find a class he likes while leveling them up

It's honestly amazing how much the zealot player will either throw or choke.

[wind spruce]

You need to utilise the barrels fatshark gave us to murder our teammates

[hearty dagger]

I shit you not

This guy sees me going to push a poxburster

Next thing i know, the poxburster is in my face because this dumbass shot it and says "i didn't see you"

Also for some reason they'll see me dealing with a crusher and 5 gunners on the opposite side

And decide to attack the crusher instead, and then we all die because the 5 gunners

[hearty dagger]

Guess what the zealot also does

[wind spruce]

Lel

Shoot the barrels your standing next to?

[hearty dagger]

Exactly.

That man alone reduces my virtual in-game and physical lifespans every time we play on the auric mission board

[radiant frigate]

wound curios are really good actually*
*if you are martyr zealot

[untold niche]

i rather take corruption resist than wound curio.

[radiant frigate]

these two do not share a slot

[untold niche]

oh yeah sorry im avberage player

[radiant frigate]

but yes i agree

[untold niche]

[radiant frigate]

rather get health and corruption resist

like having extra wounds vs bursters except not pointless

[untold niche]

at a5mael its likely you would die for real if you get downed anyway, might as well get more toughness or hp so its less chances you actually go downed

[radiant frigate]

true and real

[untold niche]

also exploding in psyker at a5mael is kind of like pooping your pants

[upper sun]

bad pattern recognition i hate to break it to you but you are not a based schizo 😭

[wind spruce]

If you ain't pooping your pants on occasion, you aren't pushing yourself hard enough

[upper sun]

so we've all done it?

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/capoo-bugcat-cute-love-lick-gif-26565799

[dense valley]

lol is blazing on this usable ?

[wind spruce]

If you want a blessing to do absolutely nothing, yes

[supple dock]

Is an enemy gonna survive more than 3 critical hits

(no)

[dense valley]

ye lol they shouldve put this on a knife or st

[untold niche]

when i was 5 the kindergarten teacher gave me some biscuits for being able to hold my shit

[upper sun]

crafting update will fix it

[upper sun]

real

mine yelled at me for asking to go to the bathroom

[untold niche]

then u

shjowed dominance/

?

you pooped in class?

i need myt answers clad

[upper sun]

more like peed myself

and got a massive box of coloring crayons/pens/sharpies as an apology

[untold niche]

good deal

[untold niche]

did yo utake your pants off first

[upper sun]

yeah

no

[untold niche]

im dissapointed

i thought you

https://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls1qm0dV0r1qzea6yo1_500.gif

shit i should go watch

shin chan

[supple dock]

My ogryn arc begins soon

[upper sun]

you're gonna hate it

[quartz barn]

Charge heavy = solo AM clutch

[upper sun]

no

[quartz barn]

Yes

[upper sun]

you have to press F twice

minimum

[quartz barn]

No i did it without abil

Works if you have the charge but i ran taunt

[upper sun]

taunt can also stagger

[quartz barn]

And that doesnt stagger out of overheads

[upper sun]

what

what the fuck is the point then?

[quartz barn]

Not all the time atleast

[supple dock]

definitelyt gonna hate it lmao

[quartz barn]

Taunt just draws aggro to you

[upper sun]

man goes from using knives on all classes to playing ogryn
man commits suicide

[supple dock]

I'm using a knife on ogryn too

don't @ me

[quartz barn]

And you combine it with dmg reduction + bonus dmg on heavy if you get hit

[upper sun]

eh id still rather have rush

[quartz barn]

Then if you have toughness gain on charge heavy you just dont take dmg ever

[upper sun]

you're so brave

[quartz barn]

• overheads only deal half your health at most because ogryn

[supple dock]

shit's not lasting past the penances

[upper sun]

ogryn has two melee weapons heavy pick and shield

[quartz barn]

But ye i ran taunt for penance xd

[upper sun]

bruh

i am not taunting 1k enemies

fuck that

[quartz barn]

Its on elites and specials

The kill 5k enemies with 5 heavy handed stacks takes way longer tho

Im at 4500 atm

[upper sun]

@supple dock dont try these

itll mind break you

[quartz barn]

Gives about 300 per mission at most

[upper sun]

the problem with heavy hitter is it needs FULL stacks

[quartz barn]

Grenade box is easy

[upper sun]

people shot the 4th one in the first mission i tried it in and i rage quit

[quartz barn]

Oh ye for heavy hitter use the pickaxe

Not branx but the other one

[supple dock]

Yeah I have enough of the other main penances that I might just skip those lmao

[upper sun]

the problem with heavy hitter is if a hoard comes at you and you have zero stacks by the time you get to 5 90% of the hoard is gone

[quartz barn]

I have 4 left on ogryn, the heavy hitter one and 3 gungryn penances

Almost finished the 25 kills x 50 done

[upper sun]

gun ones arent bad you just need a low damage high collatoral weapon with crit and the chambering perk

[restive ice]

that’s why you slap them with rumbler/kickback to farm stacks

[lavish glade]

Bring kick back and just swing it to build stacks

[upper sun]

nah im done with penances until they add more rewards

[untold niche]

wait this doesn't help me reputation

[untold niche]

also i wasn't insulting you :v
Was half joking, someone i knew did it abck then

[sudden trellis]

my fellow psyggas, what was the f-sword blessing that lets you torch crushers with soulblaze

[upper sun]

uncanny

[untold niche]

clad don't ignore me like this i feel really bad

[upper sun]

everybody pees :^()

[untold niche]

man did it in class infrotn of teahcer

[upper sun]

Yes

you remember embarrassing stuff that you do more than other people

at least 6 other kids also did it at some point but no one remembers their names

[restive ice]

i remember jonathan

[untold niche]

hmmmm

[sudden trellis]

huh. did they fix this interaction, then, by any chance?

[untold niche]

you guys want to watch shin chan with me

[upper sun]

i dont think it was unintentional

uncanny gives rending as a personal buff

[wind spruce]

It never really torched crushers

[upper sun]

so you'll still have it even after switching weapons

[wind spruce]

It just made soulblaze do something instead of nothing

[upper sun]

it buffs the damage quite a bit but yeah they dont fully melt

[wind spruce]

It's just like with maulers or bulwarks, you gotta have 15+ stacks before anything is "melting"

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQO85k

Or stack soulblaze up like this

[untold niche]

i almost spit m ywater

[sudden trellis]

ah, I guess then I'm just misremembering how much damage it dealt.
thanks, chief

[wind spruce]

Should do like 300-400 damage per tick with 21 stacks from purgatus + shriek

[upper sun]

what

[untold niche]

afterwards all the kids call him manly

he flexed that he ahd done 10 enemeas

while htr e cool kid had none

[upper sun]

@jovial juniper

[jovial juniper]

[sudden trellis]

quintessential staff psyker experience

[hearty dagger]

Are there any mods rn that can get you banned?

[analog agate]

Naked mod and maybe vacuum capsule mod

[untold niche]

what is the second one
what is vacuum capsule

[hearty dagger]

Any particular reason for the naked mod?

[jovial juniper]

Messes with the server

[hearty dagger]

I see

Just looked up mods and there's a mod that brings back the old crosshairs.

Why

[untold niche]

whats vacuum capsule peepo

[jovial juniper]

It's the things you carry at the end of Excise Vault

[untold niche]

oo

[hardy raft]

i wonder what else is moved by steampunk-era technology

[jovial juniper]

Mfw I pinged if for the first time

[hardy raft]

air pipes with thigns in it

[jovial juniper]

But fr though
It's a mod that allowed you to say Vacuum Capsule without having to ping one

Also spammable

Vacuum Capsule is the Mushroom of Darktide

[quartz barn]

I assume because its coded as a consumable, but is constantly moving causing the server to overload

Telesto my beloved

[sudden trellis]

hopefully not the one that turns your healing syringe to a can of Zyn

[upper sun]

why are zyns so popular in the US?

theyre kinda the worst snus there is

[hearty dagger]

Wth is a zyn?

[upper galleon]

And worked in the mourningstar, making everyone in your instance hear you spam it

[jovial juniper]

That one I didn't know

[upper galleon]

Part of why it got blacklisted

[upper sun]

a brand of snus

[hearty dagger]

And what in the name of vacuum capsule is a snu?

[upper sun]

its like chew tobacco that you put under your lip

[late sapphire]

Tbh i was pretty shocked to see the variety of allowed mods

As opposed to vermintide, which was pretty stringent

[quartz barn]

Not true

[hardy raft]

tbh

[quartz barn]

Vermintide allowed a ton of mods until recently

[hardy raft]

vermintide had strict modding cause the devs were assed to actually sanction shit

[quartz barn]

And the decision to not allow most mods has been heavily disliked

[upper galleon]

mods on nexus are sanctioned

[hardy raft]

so only sanctioned mods were like numericUI

[stiff falcon]

A certain mod isn’t

[hardy raft]

usually

[upper galleon]

and modding is limited to clientside

[quartz barn]

Rip better bots mod

[stiff falcon]

It’s not limited to client side

[quartz barn]

Also rip weave bardin

[hardy raft]

isnt it limited to client if you intend to mp?

[quartz barn]

Nope

[stiff falcon]

Every mod can be server side

Just requires certain additions

[quartz barn]

Vt uses player instances

Not server instances

[hardy raft]

no i replied to dorn on DT

[quartz barn]

Ah mb

On dt yes

[hardy raft]

payday 2 was the pinnacle of game modding

[quartz barn]

Skyrim mods?

[hardy raft]

you could literally sit next to a guy who has like 1k mods and you dont know shit

[quartz barn]

Oh wait for mp

[hardy raft]

can skyrim let you play vanila with a guy who has 1k mods

[quartz barn]

Nah thought you meant pinnacle in terms of quality

[hardy raft]

payday's scuffed p2p system made every wacky """client""" modding possible

[quartz barn]

Not player side vs server side

But vt banning a lot of mods was dumb because a lot of qol stuff got lost

[hardy raft]

p much

never updating sanctioning as well

dt just only allowed clientside and that meant basically anything is sanctioned by default

[quartz barn]

Kinda shows the disconnect between dev intent and investor intent

Because weapon customization is allowed

Which directly impacts the store

But w/e the skins arent even made by fs anyway

Was confirmed a while ago that those are made by a 3rd party

[hardy raft]

they probably gave money to a modeling company

ㅛㅐㅐ

[upper sun]

nice puncture

[patent wing]

reeeee

[upper sun]

should have stopped at purple

[rich spindle]

Reload speed is good on that 😭

[jovial juniper]

Good specialist perk

Now you need 100 shots to kill one

[patent wing]

gambling specialist

im still mad at the game that it wont give me infernus 4 for the accatrans

blew much plasteel to date

[upper sun]

u should have been melkmaxxing since you hit 30

smh

[upper sun]

thanks to the random person that did it for me

[jovial juniper]

Hi!
I have a question

What

[upper sun]

bash

[jovial juniper]

Yeah but why 22 cleave

Something is not right

[upper sun]

now look at the stagger

[buoyant maple]

The special (staff melee) has more cleave than every melee weapon in the game by default

It’s true

U can cleave 3 scab ragers

[jovial juniper]

Aren't they 10 mass each?

But because 22 is higher than 20 you can still hit an additional rager

[buoyant maple]

Yea

[jovial juniper]

So 22 cleave at the cost of damage

Staff special only challenge added to the list

[rich spindle]

22 is crazy

How much does sunder mk3 power sword heavy have

[broken carbon]

idk if i did that right

[rich spindle]

Lol damn double

[spice veldt]

sunder is hitmass reduction so it won't show up on the calc properly, but it's effectively the same as 4x more cleave

[broken carbon]

illisi is .5 less lol

oh

nbm

[jovial juniper]

44 groaners per swing?

[spice veldt]

big value

[jovial juniper]

I mean, it still respects the cleave values, right?

[spice veldt]

yeah

[thorn cedar]

but it didnt respect u

[rich spindle]

From what ive read it's just guaranteed BM?

Energized hits just ignore first 4 targets hitmass always?

[spice veldt]

nah

[rich spindle]

I dont get how it works

"Increased cleave" good description fatshark

[late sapphire]

there's hit mass and then there's a cleave limit

Which is annoying...

[spice veldt]

sunder treats enemies as having 0.25x of their actual hit mass which effectively translates into 4x more cleave

unless you take another cleave blessing which would be funny and multiply with that

[jovial juniper]

I used groaners as examples because they have 1 mass
22 groaners affected by sunder have 5,5 mass total
At 11 cleave you can hit 44 groaners

Which is lmao

[rich spindle]

Max stacks of wrath = 3.5x cleave so with sunder 4*3.5=14x cleave?

[late sapphire]

Doesn't it stop cleaving at 4 or 8 enemies or something?

I guess 8 fuckers will die and the rest get staggered

[buoyant maple]

Not the same thing

[buoyant maple]

46.8 at 80% cleave target roll

[jovial juniper]

Probably the damage falls off and becomes minimum

[late sapphire]

No as in

I know there's a hard cleave damage limit

[spice veldt]

psword never had a damage target cap

[late sapphire]

Psword doesn't have one?

[spice veldt]

that's just a myth that got spread around when people were malding about the 2023 psword nerf

[late sapphire]

I know a bunch of weapons have one though

[spice veldt]

but psword isn't one of them

[late sapphire]

Never used pswords 😎

[spice veldt]

weapons with a damage target cap are the exception anyways

[late sapphire]

ds4 only baybee

[late sapphire]

Feels like all of the ogryn weapons have one

[upper sun]

spent 6k plasteel putting t4 blessings on bricks

i am so fucking ready for the crafting update

[fierce spoke]

I wonder if Ironhelm shotgun psyker is semi-viable.

[upper sun]

its alright

[rich spindle]

I didnt like it that much

The reloading when trying to burst down rager packs is such a bummer

And the laggy nature of servers doesnt lend too well to the single shot hit or miss style of the gun

[jovial juniper]

You'll probably be using assail a lot for mid-long range engagement

So build the double barrel on a close range powerhouse

And a horde focused melee?

[vernal temple]

idk how on earth but I managed to survive an entire lights out auric dam mission without ever going down

even clutched once

meanwhile sometimes I'm a dumb piece of dead meat on lower difficulties

[strong gulch]

At least you were on when it was needed.

IDK what's up, but lately the mutants have been silent lately. I know sometimes special don't sound or their sounds get overshadowed by other noise, but it's been bad.

[vernal temple]

oh it was a fun mission. 4 psykers all staffs xD

[long wharf]

congrats, now you know you can do it

[supple dock]

Wasn't Surge fixed for Trauma in a recent patch?

[analog agate]

No

[azure bridge]

How so?

[analog agate]

I assume he means for rmb

[long wharf]

surge only works on projectile attacks

which is why trauma secondary doesn't proc it

[azure bridge]

Oh that'd be nuts if it did

Speaking of trauma staff anyone got opinions to share comparing it to surge staff?

[analog agate]

What do you mean

They are very different

[orchid shadow]

Two totally different styles of play. What kind of comparison do you want?

[stiff falcon]

Fixed implies it wasn’t intentional

[azure bridge]

I have a blaze trauma staff and a surge staff, I'm looking for which will function better as an all rounder for killing anything not a boss or monstrosity

[supple dock]

Hmm. okay

[long wharf]

surge will do more dps

trauma is great CC and decent damage

surge staff is not an all-rounder, though

you have to play pretty sweaty to use surge as a primary weapon

trauma on the other hand is very easy to main

[orchid shadow]

Trauma will deal with most situations. Surge is more specialized. Surge players have constantly be switching between blitz and melee to deal with situations.

[long wharf]

surge is very APM heavy

trauma is almost lazy in comparison

that said, I do enjoy surge more than trauma

but I wouldn't take surge into auric maelstroms

[vernal temple]

yeah, although that's probably a 1 in 50 occurrence for me, at least for now

[long wharf]

trauma doesn't care about horde densities

[analog agate]

I take surge into maelstrom when I know I have someone who can kill a horde.

[azure bridge]

That sounds close enough to the feel I was getting too. I like surge for enemy deleting but trauma just seems to do good regardless if what I attack with it

[long wharf]

well, let's not confuse things with comparing dedicated party play to PUGs

[strong gulch]

Trauma = more aoe, A LOT of CC, doesn't rely on headshots (unlike void). It can handle most things with bosses being it's biggest weakness; scattered shooters can also be an issue.

Surge = fast single target, forgiving aim, minor CC (also doesn't rely on headshots). It's surprisingly decent at bosses for a psyker and is great at shooter management.

[analog agate]

Blaze trauma is psyker’s best staff build. So yeah, there it is

[long wharf]

ehhhh

there are people that like blaze trauma, I prefer rending trauma, myself

the horde typically doesn't need help being killed

[analog agate]

You can prefer it. But blaze is better

[long wharf]

where trauma shines is CCing the ragers and elites

and stripping armor while knocking them around makes it easier for the team as a whole

[azure bridge]

I like the idea of rending but my blaze trauma staff is better than my rending one

[analog agate]

I can amend my comment for you though. Trauma staff in general is best staff build for psyker

You can never change from it outside of a boss

[long wharf]

it's certainly the most effective at the highest level of play

I only take it into auric runs, though

[azure bridge]

Can rending hold it's own in auric?

[long wharf]

of course

[analog agate]

Yes

[long wharf]

because trauma doesn't care how many enemies it's hitting

[analog agate]

Rending just helps your team (if they choose to attack the guy affected by it) or you if you quick swap

[long wharf]

"infinite cleave"

trauma + ds4/deimos is a great way to delete elites

[azure bridge]

I guess I'll need to hunt a proper rending staff I like the idea of armor strip for tougher enemies

[long wharf]

blaze trauma is fun for when you want to burn everything without using purge staff

[azure bridge]

Yes I have noticed that

[long wharf]

but if you really want to focus on burning everything, purge is the way to do it

[azure bridge]

Anyone got a good rending build? Currently using the blaze trauma build on steam by pygex I believe

[long wharf]

+flak, +maniac, rending shockwave and warp flurry

that's ideal

thing with trauma is you really don't have to specialize your build for it

you can run any blitz with it

and that'll determine which keystone you should go for

if assail, go DD, otherwise go EP for BB or smite

EP used to be the best choice for assail, but with the DD changes, DD outperforms EP now for assail, handily

basically, make a build for the blitz you want to use and just slap your trauma staff into the ranged slot

[azure bridge]

don't go warp charges?

[long wharf]

warp siphon just isn't as good as the other options

unless you want to ignore blitz entirely

[strong gulch]

Also keep in mind what you are going to be using the most.

[long wharf]

I could see going through smite just to spend the fewest talent points in the tree

and then going warp siphon to the bottom just to get the most passive benefit from warp charges

[azure bridge]

is ep smite worth the points? Doesn't smite's damage suck ?

[long wharf]

having smite in your back pocket as an "oh shit things just got real" is an option

some people here like to maximize soulblaze damage and go EP+smite

but I wouldn't recommend that

[strong gulch]

If you keep trauma out most of the time, having a keystone for it (WS) would be better; but if you are using trauma as more of a support or enable of your other tools, investing in other keystones is worthwhile.

[long wharf]

the thing with smite is that the optimal usage of it involves short burts as strictly a CC option

[azure bridge]

i'ma be real, i play this guy like a pure mage, melee is rarely used

[long wharf]

you really don't want to be sitting on smite for seconds at a time, waiting for your team to get around to killing the things you're staggering

[azure bridge]

i say rarely but i more mean i tend to focus the staff usage more, and melee when needed

[long wharf]

this is perfectly valid

[azure bridge]

i'l see what kind of damage EP smite can do in the meat grinder real quick...

[long wharf]

prepare for disappointment

smites job isn't dps

it's fast and reliable CC

[strong gulch]

EP smite + creeping flames to apply SB and extend the cast

[long wharf]

if you do choose to go smite with trauma, be aware that certain enemies have a cooldown on being knocked down

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1242638842469683230/EP_smite_example.mp4?ex=66a0f6db&is=669fa55b&hm=d2e0876217b64e0193d927f8740e9fdc51a42238f1e0f3a6f9a9515c3325a9a4&

Without Battle Meditation procs from trash mobs

[orchid shadow]

Eh, you smite for as long as it takes to get a handle of a situation. Sometimes that's a quick LMB hipfire. But if things are out of control then smite away. Just be planning ahead and have an exit strategy.

[long wharf]

crushers especially

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920768195185496064/1243381844242731038/the_power_of_red_stim.mp4?ex=66a107d4&is=669fb654&hm=6c2853a89b8e285fb5f8ad3516160bc8d7a667b1e7d39c9b179bb6d08628af21&

Real game setting on Auric Maelstrom with a red stim and separated

[long wharf]

I've generally found that if you need to keep a crowd dancing in order for the team to stay alive, you're just putting off the party wipe

[analog agate]

Smite with trauma is a waste

[long wharf]

this is generally what I'm getting at

trauma is already great CC

[azure bridge]

yeah smite requires time investment so it feels to me at least like it fights with trauma staff for usage

[long wharf]

and taking something like BB and EP enables you to actually help wipe elite groups effectively

especially when you combo it with barriers

that combo actually gets a little ridiculous when you're able to keep the chain going

[azure bridge]

i've been using venting shriek mostly atm

but i've dabbled with the shield as well

[strong gulch]

I have BB on my blaze trauma build, but I rarely use BB.

On my EP BB purg build, I use BB constantly.

[supple dock]

I love that I've shown 2 very clear examples of the sheer power behind smite and people are still talking as if it doesn't deal a lot of damage lol

[azure bridge]

I'm not denying it deals damage, i just intend to use the trauma staff more than it, which makes focusing on the smite less of an option for me

[strong gulch]

With trauma specifically tho, there is a lot of overlap.

[long wharf]

it's great that you had the time to spend 15 seconds standing still to kill some ragers

[stiff falcon]

Smykers deserve the retribution that will come

[strong gulch]

But if someone likes smite + trauma, they can have at it.

[long wharf]

15 seconds is far too long of TTK to be considered effective

[stiff falcon]

Hehe 3 enemy range

[supple dock]

I do hope so

[orchid shadow]

You have to look at your team comp and how they play in the first part of the mission and adjust accodingly. If you have a bunch of lasgunners with no target priority, smite is just going to make them be out of ammo very quickly. Ironically, the faster your team can kill, the less you need smite.

[stiff falcon]

[long wharf]

regardless, I prefer assail to BB

[strong gulch]

assail + trauma is comfy

[long wharf]

so I typically go assail+ventblaze+DD+ds4+trauma

got all the bases covered

[azure bridge]

assail means you miss out on psychonetic aura and wildfire though

[stiff falcon]

Builds don’t need to be adjusted for team comp

[long wharf]

wildfire isn't that great

[spice veldt]

such is tradeoffs

[strong gulch]

wildfire on blaze trauma is good

[thorn cedar]

losing the aura do hurt

[strong gulch]

yeah, that trade off hurts me

[stiff falcon]

Wildfire only gives you 4 stacks , dead point

[long wharf]

wildfire isn't generally good on any build

[azure bridge]

how do i best make use of assail then?

i've never used it

[long wharf]

and unless you literally have nothing else to take, there's basically always a better option for that one point

[spice veldt]

use it if enemies are too spread out for trauma or melee

[long wharf]

assail is for medium range groups

it's most effective when you take the time to guide the shards individually

[spice veldt]

you'll quickly get the hang of what scenarios are best solved by assail

[strong gulch]

It's about spread and griefing the other spyker on the team and taking all of the SB credit for yourself.

[long wharf]

and when guided effectively, assail+true aim = constant crit shards

[long wharf]

well now you have a different goal from simply being as effective as possible

[strong gulch]

It's a mean play. 😭

[long wharf]

definitely wandering into troll territory

[azure bridge]

alright i'll give this, rending trauma assail built a shot then

[long wharf]

play with assail in the psykward first

[analog agate]

I used assail with my blaze trauma for a bit. I used it to take out gunner/shotty groups and then rmb shot to take out specials

[spice veldt]

the enlightened and boutique blazing spirit + rending shockwave trauma

[long wharf]

assail shard damage is mid if you aren't hitting weakspots with it

[azure bridge]

thoughts?

[long wharf]

this sounds like you really don't want to be blazing things a lot

[spice veldt]

true aim

if only there was a blitz that hit weakspots

[long wharf]

yeah, don't go EP with assail

[spice veldt]

and could stack true aim

[long wharf]

go DD to the right

[spice veldt]

really makes you think

[azure bridge]

DD... I need to read up on how taht works

[long wharf]

you ignore the left bottom branch entirely with assail

[lunar hollow]

nothing makes me think. my mind is insulated

[strong gulch]

true aim and mettle

[long wharf]

ignorance is strength, sibling.

[spice veldt]

restraining order

[azure bridge]

whats DD's best point spread?

[spice veldt]

go 15 seconds and +2 stacks for maximum brain off

or 25 stacks w/ +2 stacks, or 15 seconds w/o +2 stacks to save 1 point, both requiring some more intentional chasing

[azure bridge]

so, lingering influence and curel forturen?

[spice veldt]

ye

[azure bridge]

DD doesn't seem to work in the meat grinder

[long wharf]

that's prioritizing toughness DR over toughness-on-peril/quell stuff

and perilous combustion is always too good to pass up

[azure bridge]

does the 5% ranged damage bonus affect the aoe from trauma?

[long wharf]

yes, as that's a ranged attack

but you'll notice the build I pasted doesn't take that node

[azure bridge]

at one point in the past it was bugged and didnt

yeah i know i was just thinking aloud

[spice veldt]

you'll need the creature spawner mod and turn on their AI for it to work

though you're out of luck if you're on console

[long wharf]

best bet for playing with DD is just run a malice

DD is very easy to build stacks up for

provided you're hitting weakspots

[wind spruce]

Why have you got a filler node above shield

[azure bridge]

malice?

[long wharf]

it's toughness DR, definitely not filler

toughness DR is all additive

[wind spruce]

[long wharf]

therefore you get what's printed on the label

like I said, that build prioritizes toughness DR over toughness gain

[wind spruce]

One of them is a peril nodd

Node*

[somber parcel]

how difficult is the Malleus Monstronum penance (i still need to do it but have no friends that own the game)

[long wharf]

yep

[wind spruce]

And 5% TDR is not worth it over quietude

[somber parcel]

(using only bots and no players)

[long wharf]

I disagree

if you're killing, Soulstealer is doing all the toughness gain lifting

if you're fighting to stay alive and relying on peril-generating for toughness, you're already dead.

toughness DR will be better investment in that situation

[wind spruce]

Not at all lol

[long wharf]

if enemies aren't in your face and you're killing/engaging, then Soulstealer is doing more than enough

[wind spruce]

Toughness DR would save you 5/100 toughness. Quietude gives you that much toughness from 10% queling

[long wharf]

you feel a lot more tanky with toughness DR

[wind spruce]

Comparing to soulstealer is silly because you can have both

And 100% toughness gating is more important than raw toughness if there's melee enemies around

It's not even close.

[lethal lagoon]

That's call me brainlessly charging gunners with surge staff and being 100% fine because it's a broken staff.

[wind spruce]

Quietude is better than TWO of those nodes

[tall niche]

can anyone offer any good leveling builds for the psyker class?

[lethal lagoon]

Assail + gun

[wind spruce]

Yep just roll with assail and a columnus

[lethal lagoon]

Any gun is fine but laspistol and columnus autogun whenever they unlock are solid and fun to use.

Just go brrr

[long wharf]

I effectively engage auric maelstroms with that build

[wind spruce]

But also just try all the staffs out

[long wharf]

so, you do you, and I'll do me.

[tall niche]

im new to the game so im not sure what to do

[wind spruce]

We all be effectively engaging auric mael homie, but we're discussing the finer points of builds

[lethal lagoon]

What leve are you atm, I can muck up a talent tree real quick

[tall niche]

11

[somber parcel]

anyone feel like helping a dude do the malleus monstronum penance (brain popping a monstrosity on heresy difficulty and doing 50% of its health)

[tall niche]

right now im more or less in assail

[lethal lagoon]

We were close

[tall niche]

yea i picked up a few different nodes

[lethal lagoon]

Mind in motion is pretty useless and you don't wanna get used to it.

[strong gulch]

Getting a private lobby is the hard part.

[lethal lagoon]

If you need faster quell, dodge slide during quelling.

[long wharf]

I literally never take malefic momentum

but then I also don't play gun psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Staves are kinda dookie till like lvl 25 stats

Charge spd, warp resist, quell spd etc, they feel so fucking bad

[somber parcel]

ikr i cant do solo for some ungodly reason

[wind spruce]

I would never take it w/o a gun

[lethal lagoon]

So yeah just run assail with a gun of your choice, that's going to be your best bet for leveling.

And then around lvl 22-25, start trying out staves and stuff.

[somber parcel]

gun psyker is just assail psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Nein.

Those days are long over

[long wharf]

they really aren't

assail hard carries

[lethal lagoon]

Maining assail in auric?

Absolutely over.

[wind spruce]

But also like... just try them to see how they work, and expect them to get drastically better in every way (unlike guns which feel like 90% the same for most variants)

[somber parcel]

assail is stronger than bolt pistol atm

[long wharf]

we're talking about leveling up

[lethal lagoon]

What? isn't?

[wind spruce]

My nan is stronger than bolt pistol

[somber parcel]

(outside of auric)

[wind spruce]

And she's dead.

[long wharf]

if you're able to run aurics at level 15 psyker, then you're just build different

[somber parcel]

bolt pistol can melt elites outside of auric

[lethal lagoon]

gun psyker is just assail psyker is a general statement

[long wharf]

for everyone else, playing all the up through heresy, assail can hard carry

[wind spruce]

Your nan's a general statement

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not 100% sure what a nan is.

[strong gulch]

Nope. No solo. You have to have at least 2 players to do a private lobby.

There is a mod for PC that lets you do solo missions, but those don't count.

[lethal lagoon]

I assume grandma?

[long wharf]

as soon as you unlock assail, it can be your primary weapon through 30

[wind spruce]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

But liek any older women with a pseduo-family relationship can be your nan though, right?

[somber parcel]

:(

[lethal lagoon]

Be happy it's down to 50% lmao

You can easily 2 man it now

[wind spruce]

Not in australian/English use

[long wharf]

I really don't think the definition of "grandma" is the salient point here

[wind spruce]

Your grandma's a salient point

[lethal lagoon]

If we go by what actually matters, I feel like the defintion of nan is more important than game knowledge

[wind spruce]

So sweet.

[long wharf]

my grandmothers are underground, thank you very much

[wind spruce]

Hell?

[long wharf]

one might be there, but the other was a fuckin saint

[wind spruce]

I TAKE IT BACK SAINT NANNA

[lethal lagoon]

I thought mine was a saint, at least from the summers I spent with her, but after she passed me mum talked more and more about her...

[somber parcel]

can i get 1 person to help me with malleus monstronum, damn game wont let me even attempt it

[long wharf]

go ask in the LFG channel

[lethal lagoon]

That's the challenge of the penance, so I can't make it easy on you

[long wharf]

that's what it's for

[somber parcel]

cant find it

[lethal lagoon]

Asking psyker chat is probably better, but the helpful people aint here

[long wharf]

you can't find #vox-lfg-nasa ?

[lethal lagoon]

Did you just assume his region?

[long wharf]

nope

I picked one knowing that if it wasn't the right region, at least discord would then make the others visible to him

since he clearly has trouble using a computer/device

it literally didn't matter which channel I picked

[wind spruce]

Homie asking in psyker chat is fine

[lethal lagoon]

You just have an answer for everything don't you

[long wharf]

when you get to my age, you have a lot of wisdom to draw on

[wind spruce]

I thought I was cantankerous but I am saint

[long wharf]

so yes, I do have an answer for almost everything 🙂

and I definitely have "grumpy old man" moods

especially when dealing with all the young whippersnappers online these days

[strong gulch]

whippersnapper always sounded like a type of candy to me

[long wharf]

someone should make a candy called Whippersnapper

and make it like a small twizzler but with the hot/spicy cinnamon flavoring

[dull osprey]

whats up with wildfire talent

[long wharf]

it's a noob trap

[dull osprey]

free dmg for 1 point or nah

[strong gulch]

Apparently there is a whippersnapper cowpea

[lethal lagoon]

Conditionally useful for blaze trauma and creeping flames spam.

Very skippable.

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is very specific in where it really does something impactful. It's not a make or break node tho.

If you are sweating for points, skip.

If you have an extra, then grab it. (if you have decent SB sources that isn't just PC or something)

[wind spruce]

Literally only useful on WC blaze trauma and even then it's fringe because blaze trauma is stressed for points

But it's not AS bad on blaze trauma as people make it out to be, since an extra 1-3 stacks makes a big difference when you add three more from a blazing spirit proc

[raw coral]

Never clutched with my psyker before, got this one today

felt good man

GrandmaSparkles is cookin today

also, i have no idea what I should do for curios. The one extra wound is super helpful for me (cause im an awful psyker normally), but should I invest in toughness or health?

[long wharf]

I prefer health

[restive ice]

triple wound and become a suicide bomber

[long wharf]

this is absolute troll advice

I genuinely wish we had a class mechanic to reward us using perils of the warp on purpose

[broken carbon]

the children yearn for unchained

[long wharf]

and the mines

[strong gulch]

There is a guide up in the pins called the Atheneum with info on how wildfire actually works. It's spread across different sections of the guide.

It spreads up to 4 SB stacks evenly across enemies when a SB affected enemy dies. So if an on fire enemy dies next to 4 other enemies, each of those 4 get 1 SB stack. Wildfire also can't push stacks over 4. So if an enemy has 4+ SB stacks, that enemy doesn't go to 5 stacks; but its SB stacks can be refreshed.

[dull osprey]

thats the gigachad advice

[raw coral]

it is funny tho

[strong gulch]

You can get some funny range with Wildfire and enemy pathing. Things that haven't even come with the players range can die. Some random trappers and bombers in the back rooms just dropping dead.

Doesn't happen often tho.

[long wharf]

trappers and bombers don't exist on the map before the AI director decides it's time, though

you can do the same thing with venting shriek, though

that's not a reason to take Wildfire

[raw coral]

Oh yeah, this current build is MADE for that. Though tbh, until I'm up to at least 4 warp charges, I'm a glass cannon. I can dish out a shitton, but anyone so much as breathes in my general direction and I'm down.

[strong gulch]

Sometimes they just run around before making their way to a player.

[long wharf]

true

[strong gulch]

I mean, if someone breaths stank breath on me I'm out too.

Touch me with a gross hand and that's it. 💀

DT too real.

[wind spruce]

How are warp charges helping you defensively?

[long wharf]

aside from peril generation reduction, they don't

warp siphon needs some attention to be made competitive with EP and DD

[raw coral]

I just switched to my ogryn, but I thought the charges help with toughness damage reduction?

[long wharf]

no

[raw coral]

oh

[long wharf]

there's a node where you gain 30% toughness over 5 seconds when you gain a warp charge