psyker-class

[buoyant maple]

If ur gonna run a RP bolt pistol funny build u might as well lean in on the funny

[cosmic sigil]

Run n gun puncture is very much valid on zealot

[night zephyr]

what end capstone u take with this?

[tulip kettle]

warp charges

[night zephyr]

sick

[night zephyr]

also which blitz?

[supple dock]

honestly with that build it doesn't really matter lol, probably brain burst though

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c946471-3384-4c3f-a50d-82f928d55ca2/solo-build

[night zephyr]

lol, ill take out those extra points in to boost it then

[night zephyr]

ty checking now

[tulip kettle]

you could just as easily go for assail or smite

i have a personal thing for BB even though it isnt good

you can also drop kinetic deflection for another point elsewhere

but you should with this build be shrieking every 10 - 12 seconds

and just spamming out charged trauma shots

burning everything

sword for crushers and bosses

[supple dock]

? BB is fine, you can do crazy shit with it

[tulip kettle]

yeah its fun, i like it for opening bulwarks and catching specials in certain situations

but usually with this build its better to just.. not use it

[supple dock]

enemies at a range and crushers that you don't want to melee, bosses too

[tulip kettle]

yeah like i say its okay

but i can also just use my sword / staff lmb / shriek at it

i do run this exact build

but i think realistically with the current game smite is probably better

[night zephyr]

do you charge trauma or quick cast?

[jovial juniper]

Depending on the situation

Are you far away from the horde?
Is everything on hugging distance?

[tulip kettle]

you charge the trauma

if you can

if its too far you lmb spam it

if you want to keep distance from a boss but still do some DPS you can quell cancel lmb spam it to build soul stacks then shriek it

but generally charging the trauma and staggering everything is the name of the game

you can tap sprint, then slide, then charge the trauma

blast it close to you to stagger everything and have a 50% chance of setting everything in a 20ft radius on fire

rise and repeat

will just mention the build revolves around that specific staff and it needs to have exactly those perks and blessings, with a 75% + blast radius and charge rate

[analog agate]

Another variation (my preferred obviously) of blaze trauma

Not much difference though

[upper galleon]

Warp attack toughness over peril toughness maybe?

[tulip kettle]

wildfire is take it or leave it

sometimes i convince myself it actually does something

[supple dock]

wildfire is v good if you have limited fire

the total damage dealt is insanely high

the main thing about it is that you don't really physically see the damage it's dealing because it can't stack more than 4 soulblaze

which granted isn't enough to kill most trash, but it's enough to let you 1shot them after the fact

[potent echo]

It's more to prebake the next wave of horde so your next crit will send them to 6 stacks

[tulip kettle]

i find with the way blazzing trauma works, it doesnt do anything

[supple dock]

and it hunts down weakened enemies and kills them from stupid far away. I've definitely killed 6 snipers after a literal minute of casting it

[potent echo]

But 🤷‍♂️

[tulip kettle]

but with purgatus, its actually pretty good, because it effectively widens your cone

[supple dock]

I feel it's the opposite

Worse with purgatus because you already have a source of fire

No need to milk it

[tulip kettle]

its not for "more fire"

[potent echo]

Depends on how you use purgatus

[tulip kettle]

its the way that the purgatus works

[potent echo]

Do you spin or not spin

If you spin wildfire isn't as useful

[tulip kettle]

exactly that

agreed

but if you blaze into a choke wildfire will allow your cone to effectively spread better

[supple dock]

I'd like to assume most people look around when using fire yes

[potent echo]

There's a way to spin optimally

[tulip kettle]

the stuff in the cone dies with 10 stacks on it

[potent echo]

But it's hell to do

[tulip kettle]

spreading stacks to stuff outside of your cones range

[supple dock]

yeah, so more fire

[tulip kettle]

that is the use case i find i feel it does anything

right but you know what i mean

its not killing stuff fgaster

but allowing you to burn more stuff

buit with the way blaze trauma works i kind of feel it doesnt do that so much

[supple dock]

blaze trauma goes through walls don't it?

[tulip kettle]

yes

[supple dock]

In which case wildfire is even less useful

[tulip kettle]

i just wait for a blazing proc

then shriek at trhe horde

and move on with my life

[supple dock]

BUT

Even so, wildfire is still a nice luxury pick

[tulip kettle]

sure

[supple dock]

on most builds

between +15 toughness or wildfire

I'm 100% going wildfire

or 5% movespeed or whatever blank node

[tulip kettle]

idk getting 45 tough out of the tree instead of 30 is pretty big

[analog agate]

I went back and forth. Decided I don’t need soul stealer so stick with wildfire

[supple dock]

i run without any extra hp or toughness except the mandatory ones to get keystones aha

Wouldn't recommend for most people though

good way to learn faster though

[tulip kettle]

you have to go down that part of the tree

to get perilous

[supple dock]

yee

[tulip kettle]

which you 100% do want

[supple dock]

i consider pc necessary on just about every build

[tulip kettle]

and with blazing you also want mettle and timing

[supple dock]

mmmhm

[tulip kettle]

soulstealer is about 500% more valuable than queietitude

[supple dock]

You crit one group of poxwalkers and bam 100% toughness

[tulip kettle]

so yeah on the above build, you could drop the 15 toughness for wildfire

and i sometimes do

i also sometimes take kinetic resonance for better boss dps with BB

[supple dock]

kinetic resonance is legit

[tulip kettle]

you can do 9 brainbursts in 13 seconds

its not terrible

but with the toughness % from curios, your TDR from the talents, and your otherwise squishy nature, increasing your base toughness by 15 seems pretty damn good

[analog agate]

I value a way to get toughness without killing while in battle

[tulip kettle]

that is completely fair

i just shriek

in that situation

[analog agate]

Like I said, it is my playstyle. Both our builds share the fundamentals

[scarlet timber]

guys

how important is stability on this mark again?

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/basicbimboo-basicbimbo-small-measure-small-small-size-gif-26139306

[night zephyr]

yall think blazing trauma or empowered smite shriek or void is better rn?

[supple dock]

in terms of just raw damage

it's in the order you just said

[night zephyr]

thats what i was feeling, from my testing getting back into it, void feels nerfed single target from a couple years back, smite is good but doesnt kill the really chunky as frequently but trauma just kills it all feels like

[supple dock]

empowered smite is massive damage

and it's easier to use than trauma

voidstrike allows you to just use it in every scenario without ever switching off of it

the only thing empowered creeping smite doesn't kill are crushers

[night zephyr]

oh yeah, big damage for sure, cant seem to outdamage my crazy ogryn's in my parties with it though lol

(not saying i need to)

[supple dock]

smite scales inversely with party skill

better the players the worse it is

because stunning a pack isn't worth anything if your allies don't need you to 😄

[night zephyr]

yeah, thats my feel lol

exactly that

[supple dock]

smite damage is strong af though

[night zephyr]

if my whole party dies though

[supple dock]

I've taken care of mixed hordes solo with it

[night zephyr]

oh man unlimited power

[supple dock]

yeee

Voidstrike will (probably) always be good

I feel it's the most balanced staff lol

[night zephyr]

i found the one weakness with void/trauma vs surge is the 3 mutants when your on a skinny bridge

[supple dock]

surge has a random chance to stun muties in 1 or 2 hits so that's frustrating, trauma can stagger, void can 1shot with a crit

[scarlet timber]

goddam

[night zephyr]

surge is i am fairly certain guaruntee on 2 quick shot, smite feels random though

[scarlet timber]

moblity doenst seem to do anything

i mean

stability

[supple dock]

yeah, guaranteed on second hit, but sometimes first

[scarlet timber]

on las pistol XD

[supple dock]

surge is weird

[night zephyr]

makes sense, i could also see somehow a double hit getting processed on the first with funky lightning stuff

[supple dock]

nah, it's an actual number call

[night zephyr]

i do like Lightning Boss damage, is VS boss damage still fine if one ran VS + empowered smite?

[night zephyr]

thats nuts lol

[supple dock]

yeaaah

fuckin dumb

[night zephyr]

^

[supple dock]

smite vs boss is garbage

surge vs boss will generally net you second or third place if you have a boss killer on your team

smite on boss can be useful if there's lots of ads behind it though

And tbh it REALLY doesn't matter what blitz you use with void

since you're using void for 85% of the mission

assail or BB would be my suggestion though

Could use assail to get True Aim stacks

so eh. prolly assail

[tight fable]

Am I

[strong gulch]

Bursters have been immune to pushes all night. heck

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQO85k

ASSAIL BABYYYYY

I'll always advocate for assail with void as borderline must-have for the ability to deal with dispersed shooters, providing stagger utility and quickly clearing off small groups of trash enemies

[untold niche]

assail = no psykenic aura

[jovial juniper]

True

[ornate hamlet]

bb voidstrike

[potent echo]

Balanced

Bb void

[ornate hamlet]

for when that trapper across the map thinks it can escape the projectile and charge speed

joke's on her, I'm wallhacking

[supple dock]

This game DOES have a hit reg problem

[ornate hamlet]

Y'know

Perfectionist DD with brain burst is kinda dope

Now to do it with uhhh the uhh

kinetic flayer

[fierce spoke]

Am I the only one feeling like assail is a bit mid on damnation?

It chews up dog waves sure, but the amount I threw into a mutant was absolutely silly.

[lethal lagoon]

Don't throw into mutants?

[fierce spoke]

It also is /somewhat/ effective against smaller gunners, but the rest is eh.

[fierce spoke]

Yeah I figured that one out earlier detective

[lethal lagoon]

Anyways, it's typically a tool to use alongside gunker or a staff that's not as good at handling ranged mobs/horde/ and stuff.

You can't really "main' assail like the old days.

[fierce spoke]

I miss freebie brain bursts and only really am using it for the penance.

[lethal lagoon]

The EP penance?

[ornate hamlet]

Mutants have 4K health

[fierce spoke]

The one with killing specialists with assail, and another with the build.

[lethal lagoon]

Ah

[fierce spoke]

Yikes

[ornate hamlet]

It's not exactly assail material

[fierce spoke]

Actual yikes there for mutant health

[lethal lagoon]

Mutants also take tons of damage from melee.

So it's more of a way of balancing them.

[ornate hamlet]

I think I'll end up not using perfectionism tho

[fierce spoke]

I'm just going to start using my force sword and charging it up to get rid of the bastards.

[fierce spoke]

Which one is that?

[ornate hamlet]

The stacks are "easy" to get, but the problem is any downtime in the fight kills it

25 DD stacks

[fierce spoke]

OH

Yeah defy destiny I really don't favor too much and only have it for the penance.

[ornate hamlet]

I'm convinced I have the "skill" (luck) to maintain it, but it's really fucking shit when the director isn't throwing glowies at you

[fierce spoke]

"I can do this or I can enjoy the game with less effort and probably do more with other keystones. I only am doing it for the penance."

is my thought process.

[lethal lagoon]

25 stacks is questionable, but DD is the default meta for guns and void.

[untold niche]

get the time augment

[ornate hamlet]

DD itself with the 10s duration is ezmode

The 25 stacks is only limited by RNG

Which itself is awful

[fierce spoke]

DD is just boring for me tbh

[lethal lagoon]

Your monkey brain doesn't get exicited by hitting glowing enemies?

[untold niche]

even the previous one was easy but many people were complaining about it

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

The previous one nuking all stacks was kinda eh

It really punished downtime

[fierce spoke]

I've just loved warp siphon too much with my funni free brainburst build

[untold niche]

i only had my stacks removed when there was elevator or after event and director say no more enemies
Which would be the same as now

[untold niche]

but you had all 15 stacks active everytime (not that you need it now at least for void)

[potent echo]

15DD stacks is great vs bosses

[untold niche]

i didn't want the "buff" because im pretty sure DD would get nerfed soon

[potent echo]

You always have at least 10 stacks

Nah they won't nerf DD

[fierce spoke]

I'd probably do empowered psionics with assail maybe, idk if it's good or not.

[ornate hamlet]

Like, with the current DD timers, we get

• Perfectionist gaining 12 seconds per headshot kill
• Lingering influence gaining fucking 30

[unreal wasp]

Can't tell if I like the Nyx collar more than the Obscura collar but I definitely like it more than Witchshroud

[potent echo]

EP assail is really good but you have no DD

[fierce spoke]

That's some drip and a half right there.

[potent echo]

I usually run surge staff DD assail

[unreal wasp]

Gotta go for that Psy-Paladin look

[fierce spoke]

Blud's got enough drip to cause flooding in coastal regions.

[ornate hamlet]

I think if the time difference between perfectionism and lingering influence wasn't so big, it'd be better

Either that or Fatshark makes it mark any enemy and prioritize weaker elites

[potent echo]

If specials get marked it's a game changer

[ornate hamlet]

I doubt y'all ever seen a homie so drippy

[fierce spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-smiling-friends-charlie-charlie-smiling-friends-how-do-i-look-gif-24474201

[lethal lagoon]

You will never beat dark academia clown-core

[fierce spoke]

Nah but seriously it does look kinda cool I won't lie

[untold niche]

i watch that but i don't really get it

[lethal lagoon]

It's an american school shooter joke

[untold niche]

no i meant

the cartoon in general

[lethal lagoon]

I can't help with that

[untold niche]

do you watch smiling friends?

like i find it, jsut something to watch

not something i would be excited for

[unreal wasp]

Always looks better with an autogun

[fierce spoke]

Tbh I like smiling friend's, it's peak.

[ornate hamlet]

gun psyker, more like based psyker

[fierce spoke]

Okay is incredibly based.

[untold niche]

i feel the clips of it are more entertaining than the show itself.
I don't get what the writers want me to feel or whatevrr

[fierce spoke]

It's not for everyone tbh.

[unreal wasp]

Gun Psyker but really because mostly all I use is Illisi, BB, and press F to set things on fire

[untold niche]

of course.
I just want to know waht you like about it etc

[fierce spoke]

Well I'll move this to an off topic channel if ther eis one

Honestly I'm not sure which one classifies as off topic lmao

[lethal lagoon]

This is pretty off topic

No one strictly manages the "topic"

Plenty of people will ask for other class advice in here too lmao

[fierce spoke]

So the server mods are based, got it.

[lethal lagoon]

Only rule I've seen them strong on is A.I art and NSFW, otherwise it's generally whatever.

[fierce spoke]

Good, AI """art""" can rot

[lethal lagoon]

@untold niche He has experience with that

[fierce spoke]

which one, the nsfw or the AI slop?

🤨

[lethal lagoon]

he loves kirby too much, let's just say.

[fierce spoke]

Ah okay.

If it was AI art that he got in trouble for I'd genuinely hold back the urge to point and laugh tbh.

[lethal lagoon]

I really wonder how the laws are going to keep up

[fierce spoke]

Anyways idk, it's just funny to me. I like the differing styles. Plus I kinda grew up on shows like Ed, Edd, n Eddy, Uncle Grandpa, Regular shower, and even a bit of Clarence for a time. Hell I even watched problem solvers and kinda enjoyed it. I guess I just like the random flip flops of style and how it feels kinda familiar format wise.

[supple dock]

the name is so good

[lethal lagoon]

AssailNBattery and OnlySmites are still my favs

[fierce spoke]

HAHAHAHAH

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly names aren't as funny since you can cahnge them.

It was more funny to think of someone playing 100+ hours with that name

[fierce spoke]

I had MugEnjoyer as my Ogryn's old name.

Now it is Krunch.

[supple dock]

oh oops

My favorite name is definitely a slur and typed it out

[fierce spoke]

o h

[supple dock]

automodded lmao

[fierce spoke]

bit sussy innit

[lethal lagoon]

[supple dock]

The ogryn named Adeptus Re***us

there we go

[fierce spoke]

shame I cannot make an amogus in darktide

[fierce spoke]

AHAAHAHAH

[supple dock]

when i saw it it fucking killed me

[fierce spoke]

I had a zealot named MR Clean that I sadly deleted

[supple dock]

My Zealot's name is RopeBunny

cause I die to trappers on her all the time

[fierce spoke]

Tbf Zealots free headpieces do look a bit gimpy

[lethal lagoon]

We dropped some good names coming up with that

[supple dock]

TeamPlayer is such a good one

[fierce spoke]

Case in point, also how did you do that glitch?

[supple dock]

super secret mod stuff

[fierce spoke]

I wish to make my ogryn naked save for his iconic hat

[supple dock]

open secret kinda thing, been asked to not distribute

[fierce spoke]

ah

I will have to dream about being an ogryn running around in boxer briefs

[lethal lagoon]

NothingButNet has a special place in my heart

[supple dock]

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Of course I never get netted, so I can't use that name

[fierce spoke]

"You told me the mission was Co-man-do."
"This closest I get to that."

[lethal lagoon]

That's reverse comando though

[fierce spoke]

Nawt sure what that means

[lethal lagoon]

Commando means no underwear

[fierce spoke]

Ogryn get now, ogryn bored.

ogryn go eat rations

[supple dock]

all clothes but underwear

reverse is no clothes but underwear

[lethal lagoon]

Well not strictly

But yes that's the normal usage

[supple dock]

yee

[lavish glade]

Two ogryns named baby mangler and orphan crippler

[supple dock]

CHADS

[fierce spoke]

Sorry I let the brute go unsupervised during a break for one time and he does this, this is the last time I trust the imbeciles near my secret cogitator device.

Next thing you know it's going to be the zealot writing her 50 page long fanfic about the Emperor of Mankind or worse...

[lethal lagoon]

MFW when I'm an imperium solider reading a story called "Corpse Children".

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/alberich-ring-ring-the-legend-of-the-nibelungen-dwarf-nibelungen-gif-27156750

[lethal lagoon]

Illusis is a power sword alternative, Deimos a dueling sword alternative.

[lavish glade]

Illisi wouldve been so baller had it gotten a power cycler equivalent

[lethal lagoon]

I like the fact that uncharged hits are strong more

The opposite.

[lavish glade]

Do not

[ornate hamlet]

wis

[lethal lagoon]

Oh was he trolling

[potent echo]

Obscurus is buffed

It's still ass

[lethal lagoon]

Given the shift in mainstream standards, I wonder how "ass" survived being an insult

Deimos has similar use cases to dueling, but better horde clear.

It's largely a matter of preference.

The combo for Deimos is to do two stabs, so l1 h2, or h1 l2, I don't remember.

Which ever is the two stabs

[potent echo]

L1 H2

You can block cancel to get L1 again but personally I won't bother

Uncanny

Plus whatever

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah

[potent echo]

It's something

But quelling is so free (for now)

Deflector is whatever

Use it if you want to

[lethal lagoon]

Deflector is personal preference, neither bad or good

[ornate hamlet]

The world if exorcist stacked per special tick

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

[potent echo]

Any other class would die to have uncanny blessing

[ornate hamlet]

Fatshark

[lethal lagoon]

Because it's an RNG system

[potent echo]

They are all viable

But some are all viable than others

Yknow

[lavish glade]

Are you assuming we get to have fun here

[lethal lagoon]

Surge Staff and Purg staff literally only have 1 single blessing combo

Like literally everything else is bad

Trauma too, but don't wanna make the rending bros mad, so basically 3/4 staves only have 2 blessings, 0 choice.

[lavish glade]

Fun is a foreign concept to the swedes they only know fish snow and 10 millennial of vacation time

[lethal lagoon]

Run n Gun is an exception, most god-like blessing in the game

[spice veldt]

game released unfinished + fatshark doesn't seem to be the best at making the best or good enough balance choices from the getgo = the outcome

[potent echo]

Who

[lethal lagoon]

There is virtually no reason to run anything other than warp flurry and warp nexus unless you are memeing with LMB.

For surge and purg

[potent echo]

I don't think I know any devs that play their own games except a few series

[lethal lagoon]

Apprently none of the devs had beaten t5 on release.

[lavish glade]

Thats actually wild

[lethal lagoon]

Miyazaki played Elden Ring, that's why there is summons and magical beams

[potent echo]

Casual

Magic spammer

Smhmh swamp feet

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, t5 was unironically brutal on release, cause no one knew what was good and bad.

[potent echo]

No one knew how to deal with gunners

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, ranged was so brutal blocking with the ogryn shield was considered meta.

[potent echo]

Also ranged weapon dodge didn't untrack enemy melees

Fatshark thought that was fun

[lethal lagoon]

Everyone thought damage bleeding through toughness was a bug

[potent echo]

Imagine

It was intended, there wasn't any 100% toughness shield against melee stuff

[lethal lagoon]

Thought

[ornate hamlet]

Every Swede born after 1993 can't balance, all they know is Fångad Av En Stormvind, take they vacation, work ethic, eat surströmming and miscommunicate

[potent echo]

No Ikea mentioned 3/10

[fading patrol]

The dark days

[ornate hamlet]

That sounds genuinely awful

[quartz barn]

Ranged enemies would destroy you because every hit would stagger

Nice sprint to dodge gunfire mechanic when you couldnt even sprint to begin with

[potent echo]

Oh yea the legendary shotgunners with no damage falloff

You just die

[radiant frigate]

there was also considerably less toughness replenishment access

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah but it's not like t5 didn't eventually become easy

Especially if you were a vet with at least 3 braincells

[radiant frigate]

75% ranged TDR and refresh on ult? tell me it isn't so

[potent echo]

Darktide unplayable now though

[lethal lagoon]

I literally played pre-patch vet like 5 times after hitting level 30, and was like "wtf is this stupdi shit" and never played again.
It was blindly OP and braindead, even more than EP smite.

[potent echo]

No 4 swipe powersword

[lethal lagoon]

I also became really critical of every vet I played with after that.

You completely trivlized the hard part of the game back then(ranged)

All while being immortal to them

[radiant frigate]

and then they made melee elites actually do stuff

beautiful

[lethal lagoon]

That was how I discovered the discord, cause I went to the reddit to talk about how insanely OP that ability was and how it trivlized the game, and people disagreed with me.

That's not the worst part, the worst part is they argued other things were better.

Like better on vet

[radiant frigate]

???

[lethal lagoon]

They even insitied you had to have good aim

GOOD AIM

IN MY DARKTIDE

They are literally highlighted in an FPS lite game

[near wyvern]

True chads play psyker cause you don't need skills to aim

It's a point in direction and click adventure

[quartz barn]

Tbf the good aim part comes from the bullet magnetism in other games

Dt guns are more realistic resulting in a lower accuracy

Its not hard to aim sure, its just that in other games its braindead easy

[radiant frigate]

is it now

idk i feel it is much easier to not be aiming at moving targets

[quartz barn]

I mean look at aim assist in destiny

[near wyvern]

Yes in most games guns are peashooters

[quartz barn]

Then theres games like tarkov and gtfo where bullet physics actually matter, but barely anyone plays those games

[lethal lagoon]

Ehhh, darktide has the easiest aim in an FPS that I've ever played, at least among serious ones. By easiest I mean in terms of shooting skills not gameplay challenge.

The majority of guns don't require good aim

[radiant frigate]

i also do not consider darktide an fps

it is a first person game that happens to have shooting

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah that's why I said FPS lite

Which is part of the fun

[plucky flax]

Fps hack and slash game

[winter bloom]

First person slasher

[potent echo]

Specials purposely stop moving so you line up easy headshots

[supple dock]

i wish i could get headshot v.v

[lethal lagoon]

Hack and slash doesn't typically have skill based dodges, no?

Or I guess they can

[supple dock]

Hmmm... first person ARPG?

[lethal lagoon]

Even less

Basically 0

Unless you mean "ARPG" as in action RPG and not the genre of ARPG

[potent echo]

First person darktide

[supple dock]

yes. action RPG

[plucky flax]

Depend. Kingdom come?

[spice veldt]

first person dark souls of course

[potent echo]

ARPG in the west means diablo likes

[plucky flax]

It's rpg first person melee game and hard af

[lethal lagoon]

I think come in the kingdom was parrys and shit, and not really skill based dodges

[potent echo]

Really

[plucky flax]

I am too noob for that game.

[potent echo]

Darktide, skill based dodges

[plucky flax]

Maybe I try again

[potent echo]

Me mashing dodge

[lethal lagoon]

You in a net

Dodging specials is skill based

[potent echo]

Dodging smite psykers is definitely a skill

[lethal lagoon]

It's more of a lifestyle

[near wyvern]

Imagine friendly fire on with a smite psyker

[quartz barn]

Imagine friendly fire in general

[late sapphire]

Sienna, why am I on fire?

[hearty dagger]

The speedrun zealot in question:

[untold niche]

Apparently it wasn't AI and was part of a YouTube video but honestly I'm not sure

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not sure what you are talking about, but I was referencing you showing kirby spraying liquid.

[untold niche]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, AI was not the problem there my friend

[untold niche]

Oh I misread your xonvo. I thought you meant kirby was AI

[lethal lagoon]

I don't see how that's possible when the person I was speaking to understood what I meant, and you had background knowledge

[untold niche]

I didn't read the convo properly

[lethal lagoon]

I really like this little guy

Eh it needs the blue pants

[potent echo]

Defk there's a pepesussy

[lethal lagoon]

[blazing echo]

gauntlet wizard for the win!

Elf is kind of like the veteran.

[cosmic sigil]

Nerf yourself by using the boltgun.

[blazing echo]

Should go all out with the psyker class. Im still working on mine.

Pysker mainly relies on psychic powers like wizard from gauntlet who has like 50 million moves and most people dont even use all of them.

Ogryn has the charge ability. So does the dude with the ax in Gauntlet.

havent played as Zealot yet. Is Zealot anything like Valkryie from Gauntlet?

[cosmic sigil]

Each class has so much more than that.

[untold niche]

where this from? look so pcool\

[lethal lagoon]

gauntlet

[lethal lagoon]

gauntlet(s)

Gauntlet dark legacy went so fucking hard, such a rare good co-op game for it's time.

[untold niche]

not on gog or steam, wwhere can i play?

[lethal lagoon]

I think it was ps2

[potent echo]

On Gurgleon

[lethal lagoon]

I actually don't knwo if you can play it elsewhere.

I don't wanna ruin my memories, my nostaglia goggles upgrade video game graphics really hard in my mind

[untold niche]

i googled it but nothing relevant

[lethal lagoon]

Wait what's wrong with that gaunlet you found?

[untold niche]

@lethal lagoon review not so good

[upper sun]

all reviews are wrong

[lethal lagoon]

It's 80% positive?

[upper sun]

watch gameplay and make up your own mind

[untold niche]

alot of the neg reviews saying old games better, so i want to try the old games

[lethal lagoon]

Well yeah, of course us old fucks say that.

But that's because we miss the mental state we were in when we played

It's not just the game

[upper sun]

we're right too

[lethal lagoon]

A time where I could play a game, start to finish, never looking at a second screen.

[upper sun]

in the words of the guy who made fez

COMPARE YOUR GAME TO MINE THEN

[lethal lagoon]

It was a special game

I almost wanna get an emulator

But that gaunlet you linked was made by the same dudes as magicka

I'm sure it's pretty great.

And I guess they are more famous for helldivers 2 nowadays

But magicka is a similar top down game

[hearty dagger]

Honestly it's hilarious how Arrowhead did a total 180 on monetization

Helldivers 1, Magicka series: Shit load of DLC
Helldivers 2: Only DLC is Super Citizen Edition

[lethal lagoon]

No?

[lethal lagoon]

hd2 has micros.

But like, it's insanely easy to get ingame

[hearty dagger]

Yeah ik

[untold niche]

i think that the gameplay of hd2 is overrated

[hearty dagger]

Still, a long way from the HD1 DLCs such as All-Terrain boots and Rumbler

Fish react this man

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I'm dumb, I was thinking of a diff game.

Yeah magicka DLC was something else

[untold niche]

HD1 was really good though.

[hearty dagger]

Yeah, it was.

Still doesn't change how absolutely wacky the amount of DLC it had was and still is though

[untold niche]

i made no comment about that :v

[hearty dagger]

Like they're relatively cheap but holy shit there's so many of them

[lethal lagoon]

Sims 4 bussiness model

[potent echo]

Gurgle on deze nuts gottem

[untold niche]

[hearty dagger]

God, i can't wait for the itemization update

On one hand it'll be cool to see what Psyker gets, but i also feel like we're going to get the short end of the stick

[potent echo]

Eviscerator psyker

[hearty dagger]

Pretty sure most 2 handed weapons are gonna stay on zealot

Though we're probably gonna get stuff like combat shovels and heavy swords

Which again, i feel like is the short end of the stick considering they're probably gonna get MDS

[spice veldt]

i believe in planet fitness

[hearty dagger]

This man is a paranoid schizophrenic

[spice veldt]

wh

[upper sun]

no sane person plays psyker

[hearty dagger]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

Greatest bussiness model of all time.

[hearty dagger]

But he believes in planet fitness

That's like

25 different layers

[spice veldt]

i cast the card of "i'm a vet main"

[lethal lagoon]

Some gyms take advantage of customers who sign up and then never go to the gym. Planet fitness built their enter bussiness model on attracting those customers.

Fucking legendary.

[upper sun]

planet fitness is the payday loans of gyms

[lethal lagoon]

And the whole time, people thought they were dunking on planet fitness

[spice veldt]

the 40k grimdark future where only planet fitness has survived

[lethal lagoon]

They were helping

[upper sun]

i never understood why people bitch about their membership being hard to cancel

just go to your bank and stop the payments

[lethal lagoon]

I forgot credit cards are more popular in the U.S

But I mean you can do a chargeback there too.

It's just it can be complicated

If it's not a clear cut case

[upper sun]

🙄

"block all transactions to that bank account"

"ok"

[lethal lagoon]

Given you have a contract, that would be fraud.

[upper sun]

🙄

pretty sure slavery is still banned in the US

no way they can keep charging you

[lethal lagoon]

It depends.

They can send it to collections with the contract

And then it hits your credit score

And other problems

[upper sun]

ah yes the american social credit forgot about that

[lethal lagoon]

Have you actually done this for a gym membership that you couldn't cancel?

[upper sun]

i never sign contracts

[lethal lagoon]

So you are literally just making stuff up

[upper sun]

i just pay the gym once a month

[lethal lagoon]

I mean yeah, if you can a deal like that, probably better.

[upper sun]

you can litearlly do it its your money no one can force you to part with it

[lethal lagoon]

But I don't know any place in the U.S that goes like that unless it's like a small perosnally own gym.

[lethal lagoon]

That would be fraud.

In pretty much any country

[upper sun]

nuh uhh

[lethal lagoon]

You can just commit fraud and go about your day

Well fine, I'll leave that there

[upper sun]

we need a lawyer

[lethal lagoon]

We do not.

[upper sun]

fine accept ur fate

[lethal lagoon]

I would never sign a long-term gym membership contract

Nor have I

Now, if it's just a recurring membership payment, you do have a lot of methods for that

[wind spruce]

Imagine having the organisation skills wherein signing up for a no lock in gym membership means you actually cancel when you aren't going

I literally cant

[wind spruce]

Wait are you not a merry can

[lethal lagoon]

Think of it again

With the context of the convo

[wind spruce]

Bold to think I've read the convo properly

Rather than just picked out random messages

[lethal lagoon]

He was talking about his bank, and I'm like "who the fuck pays their gym membership directly with their bank?"

And then I was like:

[wind spruce]

I direct debit for my gym membership

[lethal lagoon]

The only time I used my debit card was when I was in college and wanted to buy micros for a game.(I don't think parents woulda cared, but I felt weird spending their money on that)

It ended up saving me from ever playing a mobile game again, cause it suddenly stopped working and my bank called to confirm charges that were much higher than I thought.

credit is just so convient.

[scarlet timber]

Hey

[lethal lagoon]

Plus it's so easy to deal with fraud.

[scarlet timber]

Psyker

How important is stability

[wind spruce]

I think it's pretty normal here to have a direct debit for gym memberships

[scarlet timber]

On las pistol ?

[lethal lagoon]

Is it?

[wind spruce]

Not at all

[scarlet timber]

I got this on my pskyer

[lethal lagoon]

That's just a random and specific question, I've literally never noticed stability in my whole life.

MY WHOLE LIFE

[scarlet timber]

Even on the heavy one ?

[lethal lagoon]

From birth to death

👶

[wind spruce]

SINCE A BAYYBEHH

[scarlet timber]

Legit ?

[lethal lagoon]

"1. Damage, Stopping Power
2. Ammo
3. Stability
4. Mobility"

[scarlet timber]

Even on kantrael ?

[lethal lagoon]

You can just goomba into the guidba

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[wind spruce]

Yes

It barely makes a difference with las pistol

Heavy one even more so

Stability is more important on higher rate of fire weapons, generallg

[scarlet timber]

I see okay then thank you

Thing is the light one

Doesn't even move xD

[wind spruce]

Accatran is better anyway yeah

[scarlet timber]

This one got more flak damage though

[scarlet timber]

Oh no

...

I put infernus on it 😦

Apprently that's bad

[upper sun]

damage is more important just do damage and never be mentally stable

[pine brook]

Tryed that build.
Dont work for me, 10% to quel - suck balls, and with out 30% queling speed - perills build realy fast from SG.

[supple dock]

what mod is it that allows you to change enemy tag colors

i need that purple outline

[tulip kettle]

why bother interacting with the blatant troll is my question

and also go to bed

you were here 12 hours ago posting the same nonsense bait

hurr durr i just rolled 50+ 370 base laspistols looking for my meme infernus dumdum shit, got one, "is this good guiz, do i need stability" (50 consecrated lasguns in the screenshot)

[stiff falcon]

Calm down

[upper sun]

I have no idea but i'm gonna guess enemy outlines

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/255

"The mod allow you to change the colour and priority of several outlines:

• Tagged enemies"

yup

[tulip kettle]

I am calm, just dont waste my time with trolls 🙂

[tulip kettle]

and yeee thats the outline mod

now, share and share alike

giff repo plox

my vacuum capsule cries dont have the same weight when im fully clothed

[dusk stump]

What is the vacuum capsule stuff?

[tulip kettle]

its just a mod that is not listed on nexus

you need to get it from someone else who has it

same as the character models in their underwear

but with the underwear one there is a thing where people who have it dont share it

[upper sun]

shirtless mod is for ultra elite players

voice line binding is for fun people id be friends with :3

yes and no should be part of the game imo

i'm pretty sure they were in vt2

[steep rivet]

What do you want on a Trauma Staff

[upper sun]

either flak crit blazing spirit nexus or rending flurry flak unyielding/carapace/elite/maniac

first choice being better

[patent wing]

guys those vets wont answer me - i am leveling vet rn and this mf instantly loses all stamina on a block

whats going on with this trash

[upper sun]

what weapon are you using?

[patent wing]

mostly rashad and shovel

but am lvl24 only

and i struggle hard vs ragers but that might be my fault for playing pee gun

[upper sun]

shovel is usually good with blocking

but yeah vet can get so much toughness off tree you can do 3stam toughness HP and its good

[patent wing]

thought so ty

[upper sun]

also the stamina regen node does more than youd think

[halcyon gust]

And better to shoot rager packs if you can before they get into "Face ripping" range

[patent wing]

vet melee is so bad btw

illisi > whole vet stack

[halcyon gust]

ANd if they do get into that range. Dodge and block

[patent wing]

which one

[upper galleon]

shovels and pswords are both great

[upper sun]

either one theres two

[patent wing]

problem is u get staggered out of power cycler regularly

[upper galleon]

And imo commando (right side) buffs melee considerably

[upper galleon]

Don’t have issue, i block dodge and even push

It’s a glass cannon but it’s not bad by any means

[upper sun]

@patent wing try something like this

[upper galleon]

Just gotta respect the enemy

[upper sun]

when you're 30 try this

should work great with axe and like revolver/boltgun/shotgun

[patent wing]

rending bad?

[upper sun]

nah rending is nice

[patent wing]

currently i have that and ogryn dmg

[upper galleon]

Rending isn’t bad depending on weapon

[upper sun]

but other stuff is good too

[patent wing]

suppression immunity is only vs ranged right

[upper sun]

if you want good info on vet wait for numbers to wake up

[patent wing]

i only play lasguns, pgun and columnus maybe bolter sometimes

[upper sun]

hes the authority on vet

[tulip kettle]

oh wow i just actually looked for shirtless and found it in about 5 minutes, sweet

turns out you using the word "shirtless" instead of "naked" or "underwear" was all i needed

[patent steeple]

is he actually, or is numbers the type of person who just bullies/critiques others for having builds that he deems not optimal (even more often than other people would, at least)?

[upper galleon]

Jesse wtf are you talking about

[quartz barn]

Knowing the nature of vet shitting on stuff that isnt optimal is valid

Looking at you movement speed aura

[patent steeple]

I no longer remember the guy who I heard got in trouble for shit-talking other people's builds in vet chat...

so I just wanted to check if numbers was that person

[potent echo]

they are someone who lacks pepe, but other than that they usually say sense

[haughty star]

I do this. Very safe and good all round

[stiff falcon]

He has some questionable takes

[wind spruce]

I love that you watermarked this

[analog agate]

I trust Azrael’s takes for vet, haven’t tried numbers stuff (glanced at his vet guide)

[mental rock]

Not taking voc over-toughness?

[haughty star]

It's a discord bubble lol

[haughty star]

I like to take it to make voc vet even more frustrating for others tbh

Plus vet has a pretty good toughness economy

[mental rock]

I mean it's like the best ability in the game with over-tough, seems like a waste

[patent steeple]

not when I play vet, as I kinda have to run Out for Blood just to survive in hordes...

[haughty star]

I just started playing without and and don't really miss it tbh. Still a pretty strong pick without any of the augments

Still refills MY toughness lol

Just well rounded this way. Good buffs to the guns, good buffs to melee, good for survivability, krak for bossing cheesing. I call it my Swiss army knife vet lol

[hearty dagger]

I really ougt to fill out my shotgun sticker book for when we get shotguns on psyker

[hardy raft]

doubt we'll ever get one

but praying works

[mental rock]

The latest dev blog says psykers will get shotties

Among other things

[hardy raft]

wait fuck it did?

[mental rock]

Ye

[hardy raft]

where

[mental rock]

Question

Sorry if this has been asked, but with this itemization rework, will characters that can use the same weapon archetypes have a shared inventory to those weapons? So no more fancy lasgun that only my Psyker can enjoy, now my Veteran and Zealot can too? This has been one of my biggest gripes.

Answer

No, it will remain as it is today, where any item is unique to the character that has it.

However, we can say that we’re opening up more weapon families to be shared between all classes. It’s still case by case, but for example, shotguns will be available for all classes.

[hardy raft]

i wonder if recons will get same treatment

[mental rock]

I just want shovels on zealot

[upper galleon]

it is most likely just going to apply to weapons that are available to 2/3 classes

[mental rock]

Well that's just like, your opinion, man

[supple dock]

boltgun psyker when

actually? scrier's gaze boltgun would be kinda incredible no?

• DD ofc

[haughty star]

Scriers gaze+ gun in general is good

[quartz barn]

Dd with boltgun will be strong, but upkeep on dd is questionable

Unless you want to use your boltgun on tagged enemies when they are too far away

But i can already see the drift boltgun instakill vs monsters lmao

[potent echo]

Assail boltgun will be peak

[quartz barn]

Ye true

Assail, scriers, dd

[patent steeple]

I always forget bolter exists, so every time someone says boltgun I immediately think of boltpistol first...

[haughty star]

Lol wut

Dd is Hella easy to keep up nowadays

Even when I'm not running the funni 15 second perk I always at least have 10

[quartz barn]

It is, but my point was that youd need something for ranged kills if you want to preserve boltgun ammo

Which assail could do

[haughty star]

Tbh I never really single out the blue man kills they just kinda happen frequently enough

But yeah I dig assail

[quartz barn]

I always single out blue man

[haughty star]

Don't really pay. Every clip I've watched I'm actively over 25 stacks without interrupting my hording or anything

[quartz barn]

Mostly because killing them gives a short stat buff

[haughty star]

But to each their own. You kinda just kill everything as psykwr so the blue men come pretty frequently

Lol phrasing

[quartz barn]

Ye i do always line them up with other enemies

Which you should do on all weapons tbh

Void + corner = win

[haughty star]

I really enjoy assail I didn't run it for the longest time

[quartz barn]

Or any staff i guess

[haughty star]

Now i run assail, surge, ds4 and vent with dd and it's nutty bonkers

[rich spindle]

Ds5 underrated

[tulip kettle]

i was the same with assail, didnt get along with it for the longest time but now i am an enjoyer. Im trying to do the same for smite, but it never really pops for me. Im running it with blazing shriek ofc, but without either of the blitz modifiers. Is the +1 target modifier still bugged or does it work with rmb casts these days?

[rich spindle]

Just tried it and you fly around at supersonic speeds

[tulip kettle]

and is there any situation where you feel the +10% dmg is worth it?

[supple dock]

I don't think the ds5 is underrated at all, I think it just suffers from not being the DS4

[tulip kettle]

and yes DS5 is hilarious with 80 in both move stats

you can use it to get to areas you otherwise shouldnt be able to

[rich spindle]

I had 63 movement and I almost couldnt keep up with how fast it was

[stone spindle]

So, I got a voidstrike with surge yesterday. And now I really want to make a JJK meme around black flash/void surge now.

(It’s so fun, the void strike goes brrr)

[stiff falcon]

And you will get banned for using it btw

There’s a very specific reason the mod wasn’t released publically

It crashes the servers

[wind spruce]

Might*

[stiff falcon]

Will

All it takes is one report

And that’s game for your account

[upper sun]

he wrote the current vet guide with help from others and hes expanding it currently

[stiff falcon]

Will get patched out anyway, all it took was one very angry loser

[upper sun]

better than tanner

[stiff falcon]

Pushing health for sniper breakpoints to the player

Is he really?

Just get shot less

[upper sun]

tbh yeah i agree with you on that one

i have taken exactly 5 sniper shots since the month started

2 on ogryn and 2 on zealot

[haughty star]

Sometimes ya just get shot lol. Sniper bps are never a bad consideration especially since curios are pretty much 100 percent preference half tje time lol

[upper sun]

ofc yeah but its a lot less frequent than other things

i usually do 1 bomber 2 gunner

[ornate hamlet]

I can't recall the last time I got caught by a gunner

Still run 2 gunner

[buoyant maple]

Azrael is better tbh

[buoyant maple]

I’ve consulted him multiple times for the guide

[buoyant maple]

That’s fine I don’t expect everybody to agree in everything, but I think at least a majority of my guide (not the currently pinned version, that one is outdated) is fairly standard

[upper sun]

people struggle with different things guides imo are best used as starting points until you figure out what you want to change within the smaller margins

[blazing echo]

I just goggle I dont even bother with guides

everyone like veteran better than psyker?

[upper sun]

i like everything except vet

[buoyant maple]

I’m almost done with the overall guide

[upper sun]

whats the page count?

[buoyant maple]

It’s somewhere close to 80 rn
3 more sections to go and it’s done

Need to finish:
Curios & defense
Major stagger breakpoints
Example builds

[upper sun]

and an entire section on weapon spec right?

[buoyant maple]

Adept assassin is ez

[upper sun]

😭

[buoyant maple]

U just knife 5 games

[upper sun]

i dont play knife 😭

[buoyant maple]

Tac axe 5 games

[upper sun]

🤔

ok maybe

2 is the good one right?

[buoyant maple]

Personally I like mk7 more than the other two

But I’m also not that interested in tac axes

They need major glow up

[upper sun]

eh that doesnt matter ill see what i even have

[buoyant maple]

At worst u just Zarona 6 games

[upper sun]

ummm

[buoyant maple]

The hard one is 500 krak armored kills

[upper sun]

i'm very unlucky with revolver

[buoyant maple]

U could even run Columnus mk5

5% crit perk, 5% Crit talent, WS

The two 5% crit chance plus base Crit chance gives u 31% practical hit rate

[upper sun]

@buoyant maple is this okay?

nvm it bricked

[buoyant maple]

Up to u

[tulip kettle]

what is everyones take on agni? why is ignatus considered better?

[buoyant maple]

Indignatus has H2 > H3 loop which kills elites faster

Agni single target is H1 > L2 loop which doesn’t hit quite as hard

[upper sun]

ok thats two bricks

[tulip kettle]

oof

[upper sun]

i quit ill just play zealot again today

[haughty star]

Hell nah veteran stinky

[upper sun]

i like how they added lines explaining why melk and others are leading missions

[buoyant maple]

I finished the enemy breakdown section in my guide a while back

[round coyote]

Hard? No. Tedious? Yes.

[round coyote]

Me likey veteran

But I’ve been seeing more psykers in pubs recently

[jovial juniper]

H1 L2 L3 L4

I haven't used the Indi yet

Almost a month after the release

[tulip kettle]

Darktide never have i ever: never have i ever used a ripper gun

[upper sun]

i did a couple of scab maelstroms with every grenade talent

it wasnt bad

smh people can be so toxic sometimes

[copper magnet]

Hey I had a question about Psyker personality .. Are the voicelines that are constantly talking about "beloved voices" based on one of the personality options? or does every psyker character talk like that

[upper sun]

some lines are based off background but the majority are unique to personality

like if you picked deserter from planet X youd have a version of that line for each personality

[copper magnet]

Okay so basically it's unavoidable either way

[upper sun]

the beloved stuff?

[copper magnet]

yeah

[upper sun]

yeah if you pick dreamer you hear that all the time

[copper magnet]

oh okay, I see. I just would rather not hear it and remake the character

[jovial juniper]

Seer is the one with imaginary friend

[copper magnet]

gotcha!

[jovial juniper]

Loner is the shit talker

Iirc

Savants are the protocols

[copper magnet]

ty guys, gonna remake my psyker

[tulip kettle]

you dont need to

just go to the guy in the surgery

and yes savant is the protocols one, seer is my beloved

[rich jolt]

I dont believe there are any background lines

Please list some for me

[restive ice]

is gooning an action sanctioned by the lex atoma

[rich jolt]

Or link a video

Gooning? No

Edging? Yes

[copper magnet]

That's what I meant 🙂

[buoyant maple]

If u pick Cadia background for professional veteran he never trash talks Cadia in dialogue with cutthroat

That’s the only one I know

[rich jolt]

Thats not a background specific line

But that is a neat feature

[upper sun]

ummm

uhhhhhh

UMMMM

idk

i think maybe the saint messelina one for savant

im not sure i wanna believe

[rich jolt]

Fake darktide player...

Hasnt even memorized every single line...

[upper sun]

IT PLAYED TWICE 😭

[rich jolt]

Ermm you said some lines

Thats one line

[untold niche]

giving me ideas at 5am

[upper sun]

😭 if theres one theres more

[upper sun]

go to sleep!

[rich jolt]

Go to sleep.

[untold niche]

i woke up because i slept at 9pm yesterday

[rich jolt]

Go back to sleep

[upper sun]

real

[rich jolt]

You will need the energy in the coming days

[upper sun]

Now have a very productive day 😄

[patent wing]

i just cant continue leveling vet im back to playing psyker

they struggle so hard vs ragers its unreal

[fierce spoke]

I am so close to getting the Moebian armor for psyker.

I have the legs.

[jovial juniper]

Huge

[halcyon gust]

Still got a good bit to go before I can get the Moebian armor, but slowly getting to it bit by bit

[upper sun]

the rager buff is legit anti fun

[patent wing]

the old one or did they buff them last 2 weeks again?

[upper sun]

old one

before you could fight them in melee fine

now we're back to dodge backwards shoot

[patent wing]

ah but you couldnt dodge

[upper sun]

i mean the sweet spot when they were dodgable but not fast

[patent wing]

what did they even change again? attack speed?

[upper sun]

yeah attack speed

[jovial juniper]

Yeah now add the fact that their attacks move them forwads

(cool detail btw)

[patent wing]

i mean im only lvl25 but i cant fight more than 1 rager with rashad and even with chaxe its hard with >1

asssuming that i have to fight them cuz reload/out of ammo

[buoyant maple]

Takes practice, u can fight 3 melee only without taking dmg

[patent wing]

idk often enough there are trash mobs inbetween blocking my specials and the dodges are gone fast

[buoyant maple]

You’re not meant to use Rashad special (ever)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1257958123092578355/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.07.03_-_03.15.39.122.mp4?ex=66a0018c&is=669eb00c&hm=6b4a820e4fc317cc6be3297ad9537ac464032592e9a8fdb1ba2005ce7fb88281&

[patent wing]

hell that explains it i guess

the special is so bad

didnt know the push attack had so much stagger

[buoyant maple]

PA has 8 cleave (hits 2 Dreg ragers)

If u have even a single headtaker stack (regardless of tier), you have enough cleave to hit 3 Dreg ragers and stagger all 3

[patent wing]

im playing with grey weapons

[buoyant maple]

If above 3, use other tools to thin them out

[patent wing]

on damnation

[buoyant maple]

Then u can fight 2 in melee without other tools

I don’t like the Dreg ragers in their current state either

U just have to cope with them

[patent wing]

yeah at least i can autogun a crusher to death lol

psyker masterrace tho

[tulip kettle]

my go to levelling up weapon is cata sword mk 4 for all non ogryns, i think as a grey weapon its the best imo

parry masterrace

[haughty star]

All the shitters talking about mkv make me wanna try it tho

[tulip kettle]

every time i try a different one the move set just feels jankier

[haughty star]

Idk apparently you like faster than knife fast

Idk tho lacking in hording ability and LESS effective at heavy damage sounds kinda meh to me

[untold niche]

ok going back to sleep

realized that with bolt pistol i can now make my vet anti oggie build (without using revolvo)
I managed to nab surgical 4, no more plasteel left to rebless though.

Does boltgun and b9ot pistol share blessings?

[haughty star]

They wouldn't

It's after the prefix

Basically the names have to share a ending is how it's done

[lofty escarp]

besides surgical they don't have any of the same blessings

[haughty star]

Even if they did that's a easy pz way to tell

[lofty escarp]

I feel like lethal prox should be on the normal bolter but maybe that's just me

[untold niche]

Thanks peepo

I got a serviceable dclaw off melk but I may consider changing it into a cknife with lacerate and haymaker just to move faster

[restive ice]

gloryhunter too

[lofty escarp]

honestly forgot that blessing even existed

[restive ice]

the redheaded step child

[buoyant maple]

Wouldn’t be very good though

[lofty escarp]

I mean yeah but like it should be on it

considering it's one of two bolter thematic blessings

[upper sun]

you can make dogs dance with it tho

[buoyant maple]

U can make dogs run in circles with smoke grenades, but they’re not used much either

[upper sun]

smokes are legit the worst thing in the game tho