psyker-class

[lyric burrow]

Depends when you played last

If you mean since last patch no

Itll be a bit cause fs is on break soon and we arent getting crafting till post summer

[upper sun]

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT WAS THE LAST PATCH FOR EM?

[severe folio]

last time i play was hestia

[lyric burrow]

Then yeah we have new weapons

[severe folio]

the fanning revolver

[lyric burrow]

Shock mauls/double barrel and bolt pistol

[upper sun]

ranged weapons bad mlee good

[lyric burrow]

Ogryn got pickaxes

[upper sun]

new map is mid

[severe folio]

shock maul ?

[upper sun]

yeah new melee

[lyric burrow]

Kinda like one handed crusher

[severe folio]

for who

[upper sun]

all humans

[lyric burrow]

Everyone

[severe folio]

oh

[lyric burrow]

But ogryn

[severe folio]

and what is bolt pistol

[upper sun]

its kinda mid

[severe folio]

i see

[lyric burrow]

Its a specialist sniping pistol mainly

[upper sun]

very bad recoil bad sway on ads cant oneshot flak gunners on weakspot

[lyric burrow]

Elites too

[severe folio]

it stun

[upper sun]

you need flak 4 puncture 4 on it for it to work

[severe folio]

the shock baton

[lyric burrow]

It has similar stats to bolter but it does have really bad handling

Quick draw at least

It stuns on special but you dont use it tbh

[upper sun]

Oh boy i sure cant wait to miss my shots faster

[lyric burrow]

I dont have that much issue with it Honestly

First shot usually kills

Unless im shooting a reaper or i hit bodyshot on accident

[upper sun]

what do you have on it?

flak elite?

[severe folio]

hmmm

i prefer swords

still no spear

[upper sun]

no new swords yet sadly 😭

[lyric burrow]

Uhh i think i have flak maniac but i run DD

Might have elites though i forget

[hasty valve]

Looking for thoughts on this talent tree. Trying to get as much Toughness and Damage in as possible but I kinda miss Soul Stealer, the 1st Toughness dmg reduction, and the +5% movement speed..but with only so many points I've hit a wall. Any choice here you think is redundant or could be rethought?

I'm using:

• Voidstrike (Flak/Carapace, Warp Nexus/Warp Flurry)
• Illisi (Flak/Maniac, Unstable Power/Slaughterer)

[upper galleon]

Swap warp nexus for surge and grab true aim, or just swap flurry with surge

Surge blessing is ridic good

[lethal lagoon]

I personally don't see the point of running EP on voidstrike.

Voidstrike is the star of the show.

And no true aim either for both Assial and Voidstrike is bad.

[upper galleon]

Also wouldnt bother taking the 2 nodes below empathetic evasion, and if you are going EP you should grab both assail extension talents

[lethal lagoon]

BM and Shriek is a little weird too.

Void is already low peril

[upper galleon]

But true aim is great for both

BM really good with assail, but isn’t needed if you are focusing void

[wind wadi]

I use EP on my voidstrike build. quick swapping to assail as a "give me all my toughness back" button with psychic leeching is a nice comfort pick

[hasty valve]

Yeah I mostly use assail to clean up gunner/rager elites quickly and occarionally scattered shooters here and there. Guess I'm hesitant to skip the 3rd keystone 😄

[rich spindle]

Soul stealer is a must take for me

[upper galleon]

Just practicing yesterday but Destiny is just way better for pathing and damage potential

So what you have a bit weaker assail, true aim and Destiny both make up for it

[hasty valve]

I really want the toughness dmg reduiction and ranged dmg though

[wind wadi]

valid. i just personally dont like destiny from a game feel perspective.

[hasty valve]

Not for me 😅

[upper galleon]

5% ranged damage is not better than 100% crit after 5 weakspot hits (with cleaving weapons no less)

[rich spindle]

And assail...

[upper galleon]

Basically forced to go into 10 second stacks lmao it’s def awkward

[upper galleon]

You can literally cancel charge ups on void with quelling

Assail i can kinda get, you can get caught up with spamming and explode yourself, but void is really safe from peril

[hasty valve]

True, provided you get 5 weakspot hits in a row in the middle of a hectic mixed horde fight in auric. Or have I misunderstood true aim?

[wind wadi]

it's more the game nudging you toward considering a trash mob a priority target. i didn't like having to choose between playing to my build and playing to best benefit the scenario

[upper galleon]

In a row? you know void and assail (with node extension) both cleave

And there is no limit to the amount of weakspots that count per attack?

[rich spindle]

They dont need to be in a row

[wind wadi]

that, and i had some weird functionality issues throughout using it to get the penance. including several points where the game wasn't telling me how many stacks i have, and one point where it completely failed to outline enemies for half a mission

[hasty valve]

Huh, so it's basically a free critical as long as you get a weakspot hit here and there?

[upper galleon]

Yea but they are in a row literally xd fire orb into horde, instantly stacked, fire another orb, instantly stacks

[rich spindle]

Yes

[upper galleon]

I find right click assail or left click void was perfect for harvesting trash

[wind wadi]

EP is never hard to get to on any psyker build because i'm always taking warp rider forever

[upper galleon]

That’s a visual bug that sucks

Yea but true aim is also what you want forever in a lot of builds

[wind wadi]

spent the whole mission firing voidstrike into horde like "oh boy i hope i get a stack" lmao

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah it sucks big time

[hasty valve]

Now I'm kinda leaning into skipping EP entirely and spend those 3 points on Soul Stealer, True Aim, and Movement speed..

[upper galleon]

Basically you can still get the buff you just can’t see anything related to destiny, buff on bar is gone, and the highlight is gone but the game keeps track still

[wind wadi]

that was the bug yeah

[upper galleon]

I mean yea, said if playing around void first, destiny is better

It’s awkward to play around

But very strong

[hasty valve]

Yeah but I still wouldnt be able to afford destiny. Skipping EP and the 2 under is just 3 points

[upper galleon]

Just grab the 10 second duration talent cause lmao even in auric damns i cant sustain 4 second stacks

[upper galleon]

Then you need to trim ur points off above

Def not worth skipping any keystone

[rich spindle]

More damage from DD will keep you way safer than the tiny toughness nodes

[hasty valve]

And that's the wall that got me to write here lol

[upper galleon]

Well you got the answer, your choices really

[rich spindle]

Trust soulstealer and toughness on quelling to keep you alive

[lethal lagoon]

I've tried to kinda keep your build the way you seem to want it. I still think BM is really unneeded for this.

[tired estuary]

bm stimky

[rich spindle]

Soulstealer is way better than BM

[lethal lagoon]

Well at the end of the day, it's how you want to play, but there are some better choices within that paradigm.

EP is just such a waste if assiail isn't a huge part of your rotation.

Which if you don't have CD, it isn't.

[upper galleon]

This

You are trying to grab everything despite being limited, and ending up making everything subpar

[hasty valve]

Looks good and I'll give it a try. Still miss Soul Stealer in there though but maybe I can move something around

[upper galleon]

Focus on assail or void first

[rich spindle]

That 5% ranged damage boost is really not worth keeping

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, but he seems to like it.

I do agree I'd take soulstealer over that 55

I need a new keyboard

[tired estuary]

what breakpoints does the 5% ranged help you reach

[hasty valve]

Story of my life in Darktide. Trying to be able to counter everything, which is usually needed if you're only playing with randoms in auric 😄

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah you can give a try switching 5% ranged damage to soulstealer

[hasty valve]

Why stinky? Love it when bombarding a neverending horde with void. Or at least the idea of it (not that I notice it that much)

[lethal lagoon]

You need to kill 100 enemies to recover a full peril bar

Plus you are ruining any peril edging

Although I don't know if you are edging.

[upper galleon]

Well you have void so that counters basically everything kek

[lethal lagoon]

You also need to be able to build t 85% quickly for getting your shirek off

[hasty valve]

Yeah but one extra void blast before stopping can be a big deal sometimes

[lethal lagoon]

And BM can trigger right before you shriek

Ruining creeping flames

[upper galleon]

Anyways, i’d also swap illisi for deimos or mk4 dsword

[lethal lagoon]

[tired estuary]

It also just takes almost no time to quell that amt anyways

[hasty valve]

True. Wise words

[hasty valve]

I mained deimos before but like illisi for when hordes get too close

[rich spindle]

I like illisi with void

[wind wadi]

i run a combination of ds4 and assail for horde when i have a void

[rich spindle]

With DD and uncanny you can kill crushers with it too

Ds4 is the crusher/mauler delete sword which I dont think you need with void

Not that its bad

[upper galleon]

You have assail

And get uncanny strike blessing instead of unstable

[hasty valve]

I'll take that under consideration. Assail doesnt offer a quick way to block mid-horde in the end which I get with Illisi. And I tend to use Assail for elite ambushes (gunners, ragers mostly)

I seldom attempt to get within arms lenght vs a crusher/mauler as Psyker, way too risky for my frail body. My playstyle has taught me to kite with void instead 🙂

[hasty valve]

Looking forward to trying this. All that toughness gone is scary I gotta admit.

[hasty valve]

Yeah can't wait for the locks to be removed in a couple of months. Sadly unstable is locked for now and I don't wanna waste too many resources ahead of the update

[rich spindle]

Toughness is less important than u think

[lethal lagoon]

You can move BM and Ranged Damage into +15 toughness nodes

DD and voidstrike goes extra well together after the semi-recent changes to DD though

So have funs

[hasty valve]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[untold niche]

what is bm

[untold niche]

if you run illisi you can do away with using assail (so use smite instead), and have better pathing

[hasty valve]

Battle mediation, the one that quells 10%

[lethal lagoon]

It's what other parents said about you whenever you played with their child growing up.

bad manners, smh

[final trellis]

Does assail have it's own niche?

[untold niche]

mods this is bullying

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

harrassment

[lethal lagoon]

You are like a moth to the flame

[untold niche]

yeah, bm fu cks with your peril management, and is better spent on that top left node. also the ranged immunity for 1 second thing isn't good on void.
You could swap those two and the assail augment to get the faster quell times at the bottom left

[lethal lagoon]

I don't like EE on void either.

Really outside of Purg and Guns it's not that great.

[untold niche]

this is what i run @hasty valve

[lethal lagoon]

But like there's always room to do what you want.

[untold niche]

this one is really good

you cant take that if you path assail

[hasty valve]

Since im deadset on Illisi atm, which one would you go with? All this talk about uncanny made me go to brunts

[untold niche]

its ok i like illisi too

[hasty valve]

Yeah atlas gave a suggestion on the one I have, gonna see how it works. Pretty similar to yours

[untold niche]

on void you would really like solidity, which atlas build dont have

[untold niche]

i would take unstable power, mainly because i don't use illisi on armoured stuff
i build my illisi to 1 tap both types of bruisers

1 tap with lights

[hasty valve]

True, but I dont use it in any of my builds so prob wouldnt notice much of a diff 🙂

[hasty valve]

Yeah unstable is the one I've rocked for months and months now

[untold niche]

i think thats a reason that you would

legitimately while levelling solidity felt like a power spike

[untold niche]

this is what i run

( you don't need deflector tbh)

[lethal lagoon]

You do need deflector though

[untold niche]

yeah to deflect your moms continued advances towards me after that night

[lethal lagoon]

That's rude, she's a nice lady and deserves better.

[untold niche]

yes shes a good girl alright

shes my good girl

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

sorry son

[lethal lagoon]

No it's okay, I know someone using kpop emotes probably has never held a woman's hands before.

Unless you were that "one guy"

😨

[untold niche]

i didn't even know it was kpop, just a random gif off another friends server

[lethal lagoon]

I just assumed.

[untold niche]

im not as well versed as you are

[lethal lagoon]

I knew you would turn this around, you koreaboo

[untold niche]

hey stop projecting

[lethal lagoon]

We back to kirby?

[untold niche]

the one true emote

forbidden

like knowledge of chaos

[untold niche]

what if auric damn mael became its own section, and you can either qp them or choose the modifiers you want

[mental rock]

What if we could just choose what modifiers we wanted

[fringe garden]

This should absolutely be an option for private games

[untold niche]

yeah i said

or choose the modifiers you want

[mental rock]

Well I don't think you'd need a maelstrom section then, just get rid of the mission board at that point

Just a menu with either quick play or mission select and it would be better than our current system

[untold niche]

hmmm, because i see auric as a significant jump in difficulty, likewise for mael
So i thought like a different section to split the qp people
But then like arco said before, this would divide the playerbase even more

[mental rock]

Yeah you would need a system to separate the standard damnation from the aurics/heavily modified damnation

Like as soon as a mission has x modifiers it becomes a different quick play queue

But for some reason I doubt they'll change the mission board much more than its current state anytime soon

[stone totem]

Me trolling quickplayers by spamming 1 modifier, that being no ammo pickup

[tired estuary]

part of me wants mael qp just so people aren't locked out of joining a game after it's off the rotation, but honestly bots are better than a lot of maelstrom players anyways

[eager horizon]

I also would like to QP into mael.

[delicate smelt]

yes give me my packs of 6-8 crushers every 6 seconds

[rich spindle]

I want to be able to combine every modifier

[supple dock]

i just wanna be able to beat malice ):

[rich jolt]

Have you tried low intensity

[supple dock]

no but my support build is great

my teammates cant deal damage tho ):

[rich jolt]

Have you tried supplementing them with bots

[supple dock]

what like leaving the game

cause that's a fucked up way to say that

and I like it

[rich jolt]

Bully them until they leave the game

[supple dock]

lmao

"supplement the team with a bot pls"

[vagrant furnace]

Eww

[rich jolt]

We're not that gross

Rude

[upper sun]

not gonna lie

the difficulty changes are kinda fire

[tired estuary]

I miss the pre hotfix shooters

[upper sun]

we got wiped by a pack of 20 ragers protected by a bulwark

one dude clutched

then for some fucking reason he chose to ress me first

then i had to kite a chaos spawn to fucking reclutch

[upper sun]

dont talk to me or my zealot ever again

[tired estuary]

it was really cool seeing ogryns say "idk if pickaxes are viable" b/c they kept getting shot to smithereens in the new mission

[eager horizon]

I hope they take a page from KF2 and give enemies more moves at higher difficulties.

[jovial juniper]

YES!

[eager horizon]

Like, heresy and above

I feel a lot of folk linger on malice so this might give em the nudge they need.

[upper sun]

tbh

they need to increase rewards for each difficulty so people wont play above their level

and make plasteel/diamantine given automatically at the end then we can REALLY start gaming

[upper galleon]

I think shooters and ranged enemies supposed to play smarter at higher difficulties but im not sure

But if ragers start raising their arms to block headshots im going to abuse harder /hj

[idle aurora]

They will still do that doe, because of higher reward

Monkey brain doesn't understand skill level, they see big rewards and they press play, who cares about 3 other people experience

[upper sun]

idk 400 plasteel is not worth my time auric goes from 700-900 if they made heresy give 700 that i could reliably get with less effort id play that

[upper sun]

risk reward

[eager horizon]

I wonder, if they did add new moves, what they'd be. Mayhaps trapper could drop a smoke bomb when they flee. Or maybe bursters could leave toxic puddles as they run. Flamers could maybe have a fireball move or a followup to a successful kick?

[upper sun]

but seriously people here have anywhere between 1k to 4k hours in the game

[restive ice]

trapper tickles your soles when you get netted

[upper sun]

my fucking god

i am sick of picking up plasteel

i just wanna play the game

[eager horizon]

Now thats evil

[jovial juniper]

You know how snipers haul ass if you get too close, they should give that move speed to the shooters if they are moving to cover

[haughty star]

is empowered assail ever worth it?

on the surface it seems not impactful

[upper sun]

yes

its nice

[lethal lagoon]

After DD buff, I just don't really see a reason to ever run EP Assail again

[eager horizon]

Mmm. Consider: combat roll

[upper sun]

zero iq fun

[lethal lagoon]

There's a much stronger option for zero iq fun

Hell even EP BB is kinda better these days

[upper sun]

ye

ep bb is nice

i run it with purge

[lethal lagoon]

EP assail used to be strong enough to make up for the flaw of no aura and the loss of damage because DD had problems and warp charges had too high of an investment

But now it just lacks that

[upper sun]

mods gotta be stopped

[jovial juniper]

Depends
I developed a habit of aiming the shards

[upper sun]

aside from assail "fun"

is ep used anywhere outside of BB now?

[eager horizon]

Have ye tried double sheild wall machine gun BB build?

[upper sun]

ye

[eager horizon]

Iz fun

[upper sun]

i recommend that for monster penance

but i dont run it

wall needs big iq to use

and id rather have creeping flames

[buoyant maple]

Smite

[upper sun]

we dont talk about smite

[rich jolt]

I use it on assail but i dont think its ideal

Definitely gets the most mileage on bb and smite

[restive ice]

sm*te

https://tenor.com/view/boy-kisser-boykisser-boy-kisser-type-type-typing-gif-4348094406361571449

[upper galleon]

good for horde clear but DD buffs your void staff/gun better

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-gif-7099278856497118059

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-shy-hide-gif-16745333120356754608

[lethal lagoon]

Too many button presses

[restive ice]

https://tenor.com/view/mauzy-gif-9639013559678424335

[midnight torrent]

Quick question: Does Warp Resistance on a Force Sword affect the Peril buildup when blocking with the peril generation on block node?

[rich spindle]

Good question

[quartz barn]

i think it does

[radiant frigate]

i do not think it does

it is based on % stamina block cost

though peril reduction nodes should affect it

[spice veldt]

the warp res stat on a force sword does not affect kinetic deflection

[stone totem]

Vermintide boomers everywhere rejoice

[midnight torrent]

Okay, thanks, all. Myself and my group were wondering.

And Google was unhelpful

[long wharf]

Who let the furry in?

[patent jacinth]

Can this be saved?

[marble crater]

Once we get the crafting update, yes

[narrow herald]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/DuKL08HPep

[round gull]

why do dogs give a fuck about being stunned by smite?

[analog agate]

It really annoys me dogs can’t be stunned until a certain point

[analog agate]

Top comment hurts my soul.

[round gull]

yeah

[narrow herald]

"I leveled all classes to 30"

"I did all penances"

"I have 1k hours"

[clever root]

one shooter will break your toughness

That's different from other classes how exactly?

Almost as if you're supposed to sprint, slide and use cover

[hexed geyser]

You dont have 50% dmg resistance on psyker. Idk what the discussion is but that applies

[round gull]

anyways a sniper shoot will probably break your toughness

or a shooter

[narrow herald]

nah ig a pox burster will break ur toughness 🩷

[round gull]

I 🩷 Poxbusters

[analog agate]

“…how much toughness you can regen is very build dependent, and even then a lot of it is incremental/over time related to how much peril you’re building, and not big chunks other classes get to use to bail them out. “ I got to tell him… psyker can regen all their toughness in one pop of a staff

[clever root]

The discussion is that reddit is stupid

[narrow herald]

reddit

[round gull]

yeah,toughness regeneration of psykers is incredibly good

[lethal lagoon]

Reddit unironically thinks blaze trauma isn't good.

And it is illegal to convince them otherwise

[eager horizon]

Reddit likes that Psyker only has 20 talent nodes.

Tis a silly place.

[clever root]

Hide reddit threads, ignore reddit posts, do not reply to reddit posters

[hexed geyser]

Also the part about turning off the brain isn't wrong. If you take a new player to all 4 classes, he will suffer most on psyker and be able to play decent on zealot/vet. But psyker also has the highest theoretical potential for damage and death when you know what you're doing

[eager horizon]

Tear down the reddit poster on your wall. Realize theres a secret tunnel behind it. Fill the reddit tunnel and never speak of it again.

[vagrant furnace]

Trauma is very hard to use if you dont know the maps like you pocket, most players are up to 100 hours playtime, that’s what its not an appealing choice

[spice veldt]

kid named blasting the circle right next to you

[formal hill]

Idk about you but my Vet can take a hit from a crusher and not break toughness

[potent echo]

Pee shout

[formal hill]

Me when I pee

[unreal wasp]

Swapped out the bubble build for full vent soul blaze, getting back to back "LOOK AT THE FREAK" is funny

Purge the unclean in holy fire

Think it actually works better for being a Psy-paladin than bubble

[stone totem]

Throne, l-look at the witch 😨

[unreal wasp]

Not sure if I should drop Quietude for Kinetic Flayer but I feel like everything else is pretty inflexible

[stone totem]

Yessss, take the gambling perk

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-evil-grin-scheming-gif-5152233

[jovial juniper]

Don't listen to the voices

[broken carbon]

chances are you wont be using BB that much, you could probably swap kinetic barrage for flayer

or whatever the talent thats the less charge on ability

[jovial juniper]

Kinetic Resonance

[unreal wasp]

Kinetic Resonance is the faster charge and less peril on ability use ye, I use that to get a damage boost versus things like Bulwarks, Crushers, Monstrosities, etc

Rapid fire brainburst do B E E G damage

Now I just need to figure out if I want to use bolt-pistol or an autogun

Probably autogun to deal with shooters faster

Also I just really like how this looks

[broken carbon]

also ideally you’d want true aim

[unreal wasp]

EMPRAH, I just love how that looks, Enforcer legs complete that outfit

[broken carbon]

honestly, swapping the build over to disrupt destiny would probably work pretty well

[unreal wasp]

Eh

[broken carbon]

you’d lose CDR

[unreal wasp]

Gun is mainly just to kill things that need to die quickly

I mostly use my Illisi for most situations

[broken carbon]

illisi also does well with DD

it’s a finesse weapon

with DD and uncanny the illisi can kill crushers surprisingly fast

[unreal wasp]

God I love how that outfit looks with the Enforcer legs though

Before my only options were skinny cloth pants and baggy cloth pants

Full armor looks SO nice, g u h

Especially from the back

Was using the second one before but more armor more better

Didn't like how the back of the legs looked but the skinny pants were just too skinny

[potent echo]

Daddylonglegs

[unreal wasp]

Kind of goofy to have little chicken legs with massive pauldrons

[unreal wasp]

Tried it out, my damage potential feels like it's gone up quite a bit because even my uncharged followup heavies are cleaving through way more poxwalkers

[broken carbon]

yarp

finesse damage my beloved

are u running 25 stacks or 10 second stacks

[unreal wasp]

25

Also this be muh sword

[broken carbon]

i recommend 10 second stacks

its wayyy more consistent

[broken carbon]

swap unstable to uncanny n you'll do really well against mixed hordes

you can, under the right circumstance, one shot a mutant with a light

wait thats with scriers nvm

scriers n dd

[unreal wasp]

Was about to say, am already oneshotting them with warp heavy bodyshots anyway

[broken carbon]

lmfao yeah

illisi is awesome

[unreal wasp]

Going for headshots but sometimes I miss and I see their torso fly off

[broken carbon]

i think? not sure, @spice veldt would probably know, that kinetic flayer inherits ur buffs

or at least uncanny

imma test that actually

brb

[unreal wasp]

Mainly using Unstable Power because I'm also using Warp Rider

Seemed perfect to have a low Warp Resist Sword and basically 80 in every other stat

[broken carbon]

fair, but that combo would work even better if u were running scriers gaze

if ur only peril gen is brain burst

its not really worth imo

[unreal wasp]

Well no

I'm using Illisi

[broken carbon]

well bb and activate

[unreal wasp]

[broken carbon]

O

[unreal wasp]

I'm constantly using warp-charged heavies

Not having a warp weapon on Psyker at all would be goofy

Just prefer it to be muh melee weapon and use it to kill 15 pox walkers in one swing

[broken carbon]

(my duelling sword columnus autogun build)

[spice veldt]

the warp is in our hearts

[unreal wasp]

Prefer Agripinaa meself

[broken carbon]

yarp it does inherit uncanny

pawesome

[unreal wasp]

Kind of wanting to use Blazing Spirit since I'm already doing a Soulblaze Build

Go even further into the Psy-paladin larp and use even more fire to purge the unclean

Hadron mean and won't give me BS4 though

[ornate hamlet]

Blazing spirit should've replaced wildfire

don't @ me

[lethal lagoon]

I like the idea of blazing spirit on force swords having an AoE/Wildfire effect.

Cause ATM it's just functionally useless.

Wildfire being just warp fire on crit would be broken beyond belief.

[potent echo]

Blazing spirit on psyker talent tree will be the best

[lethal lagoon]

It'll be the best, I promise, there can be nothing better, wonderful.

[brazen rampart]

Diet librarian.

[hardy raft]

mmm my eyesssssss

[dark swift]

For a Gunpsyker, is this okay if I want to mess around with revolvers?

[hardy raft]

any zarona dies without handcannon

[upper galleon]

Oof why dis you change both perks and leave the blessings

Zarona wants handcannon for sure, and def not crit chance perk, especially cause true aim exists

[dark swift]

I'm going through some old weapons I'm scrapping for blessings

[hardy raft]

scrap for PB

[fair jungle]

do force swords quell faster too or is it just the staves?

[potent echo]

Forceswords have faster tics but about the same quell speed afaik

Are you using true peril mod?

[fair jungle]

I'm not, should I be?

[potent echo]

It's just more accurate

Less issues with exploding

Lets you understand how quelling works under the hood

[spice veldt]

force swords and blitzes both have an unlisted quell speed of 50%

so, if you have a staff with less than 50% quell speed, it's faster to quell with your blitz/force sword

[potent echo]

Staves also have different tic speed from swords right?

[spice veldt]

they should have the same tick rate

i've only timed staves' but i don't have a reason to think that they would be different

[potent echo]

It's plenty different

Blitz is the same as staff

But forceswords tic faster because

I don't think I had the quell speed talent

[spice veldt]

just checking in the psykh, force swords and staffs have the same tick rate of 250ms

[potent echo]

Maybe it's a Deimos thing or I've been gaslighting myself

[wind spruce]

Assail has low stagger 💀

[potent echo]

It has low stagger

I throw 1 assail and the 10 ragers killing me should be on the floor!

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/aVDVry

"very little stagger"TM

[winter bloom]

as an ogryn main this is confirmed low stagger

[strong gulch]

U right. Those ragers were just offended.

Clearly not stagger.

They are just looking at one another like "wtf was that??"

[hardy raft]

zealot knives:

i like using assail cause it reminds me of throwing knives

[upper sun]

Look here Amigo

[potent echo]

Anyone saying staff is a perfect substitute for assail clearly never played above malice

Or are so staff coded that they never used their assail to delete gunner/shooter waves

[wind spruce]

Not to mention assail doesn't have to substitute for using your staff

It shoots so fast you can just weapon swap and pop two off between staff casts with barely a delay

[lethal lagoon]

Or they are getting hard carried and don't realize their teammate(me) is killing 90% of the ranged mobs

I can understand low damage, high deaths, etc.

But literally no one kills the ranged mobs fucking them up.

"Wtf, I got one shot"
No you got shot in the back by the ranged mob you ignored and had no toughness when you got meleed.

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/eQO85k

I fucking love this game hahaha. What a massacre

[spice veldt]

casual 500+ damage ticks

the combustion was perilous

[potent echo]

I hate gunners, so I never kill them and let them do whatever they want to me uwu

[wind spruce]

This what i be talking about with assail having incredible synergy with surge/true aim aswell

[spice veldt]

soonderry

[wind spruce]

I wouldnt have had either of those procs without the weaves

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, backshots are your bread and butter

So that's fine.

[potent echo]

Big juicy

[spice veldt]

gunner backshots 😎 https://streamable.com/4ozue2

a world where ranged enemies are more consistently a threat would be nice so that i have to actively think about sightlines instead of occasionally getting caught off guard like this

[potent echo]

This never happens to me

Definitely not yesterday night

[quartz barn]

wouldve been nice if they were always accurate and had their dmg tuned to difficulty instead of the other way around

[spice veldt]

i also had shield ult which certainly would've helped

ranged enemies having pretty intense damage range falloff doesn't help

cuz like, on average, their minimum falloff damage is ~50% of the original damage

so they have to contend with inaccuracy + columnus IAG levels of damage falloff

[wide quest]

Anything to fix on this?

[vestal fulcrum]

Both perks

The blessings are OK, even if Precog is not the most optimal one

[half turtle]

hm i somehow got 44% ranged crit rate as a warp nexus fire trauma psyker without true aim, no idea how

had a vet, ogryn, and psyker as teammates, so ally psyker probably took crit aura

but no idea where the other 5% came from

i run riposte but that doesn't apply unless i have the sword out right

[wind spruce]

If only

[potent echo]

Making pubs think of sightlines? What a horror story

Playing the reworked manufactorium repair map and 3 rejects standing at the old holdout spot dying one by one to snipers

[spice veldt]

i like the sloped snowy area that leads to a dropdown cuz ranged enemies don't quite block each other as much there

[upper sun]

holy shit fatshark actually reads the bug reports

i reported the most useless bug that no one would ever encounter EVER

and its fixed now

[potent echo]

Which bug?

[upper sun]

you know how when you dry fire a gun it makes a sound to let you know its empty?

on bolter if you held fire on and empty bolter without adsing it spams that sound VERY QUICKLY

[potent echo]

Nice

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/c/3/c3d86540a09afc929d67e7089eeb0c83808efeb3.mp4

[potent echo]

Of all the sound bugs they chose to fix

[upper sun]

it was like this before

now it doesnt make the sound

[potent echo]

I definitely heard this before

From other players

[upper sun]

well you wont anymore

[potent echo]

Probably a big problem

Griefing denied

[upper sun]

i just report random shit like and every change i dont agree with as bugs

[potent echo]

Close range bugged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Continues for months)

Moral of the story: babies who cry get to eat their candy

[upper sun]

#darktide-pics-vids message

if i can find a clip of me jumping this before the change im fucking reporting it

im so bad about this unironically

[potent echo]

Karma at the end

[upper sun]

fuk u

i pour my heart out to loot that area so everyone on the team can have plasteel

and thats how i get rewarded?!

[potent echo]

Tight and snuggly nap

[upper sun]

😡

[lethal lagoon]

How about you.... use a mop and clean that up.

[upper sun]

i dont get it

oh because "i pour my heart out"?

[lethal lagoon]

yeah,,,

[upper sun]

that was awful

[lethal lagoon]

Like your poured out heart

[upper sun]

awful

besides pouring out doesnt mean pour on the ground

it means pouring something into a container

thus wouldnt need cleaning up

[potent echo]

Pour it into a coconut

[lethal lagoon]

Gross things in a cup is pretty tough to clean up

Because you have to use the cup after

[upper sun]

🙄

[lethal lagoon]

Like imagine if you wanted coffee, but you had one cup with poop in it.
How much would you have to wash it to reasonably have coffee?

I'd need at least an hour

[lethal lagoon]

you emote like a boomer

[upper sun]

🙄

just go to sleep

cut ur losses

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

2 minutes

[lethal lagoon]

Fucking lunatic

[wind spruce]

Trust in thy soap

@lethal lagoon someone do da poopie, how long they need wash before you eata tha ass

[lethal lagoon]

I would say no amount is enough once I have knowledge of their last poop.

I am a true human beyond logic.

[wind spruce]

2 minutes.

[lethal lagoon]

If you are having a one night stand, and she had sex 20 minutes before you, how long does she need to shower before you are down to fuck?

I feel like the knowledge is too much by itself.

[wind spruce]

TWO MINUTES.

[lethal lagoon]

You just do everything in two minutes, don't you.

[wind spruce]

Giggity

I take over world

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

TWO MINUTES.

[marble crater]

The hell is going on here?

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

https://s6.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-6-bbf8a4750c.jpg

u

[wind spruce]

How long would YOU wait after da poopie to eata da ass?

[lethal lagoon]

💩

[marble crater]

However long it takes me to forget they just did that maybe? I don't know. Not like it gets any cleaner with time if they washed properly

[lethal lagoon]

So the same answer as me

See, I'm the normal one, you two minute man

[marble crater]

How did the topic even start?

[potent echo]

Poop

[lethal lagoon]

I implied clad "pouring his heart out" was difficult to clean

He then tried to argue and I dunked on him so hard

[radiant frigate]

siblings, don't get carried away

[marble crater]

makes sense that the conversation would move to this then

[lethal lagoon]

Burned him harder than I ever could with your earnest outlook

[potent echo]

Are you team 2 minutes?

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

I'm team "knowledge is too much"

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah which team are you

[potent echo]

If you truly knew what poopie is then there's nothing to fear

[radiant frigate]

i have no horse in this race

i am not taking sides

[lethal lagoon]

Ok so on the side of knowledge

"Knowing" is too much

[radiant frigate]

i am team "ass is not for eating"

[hardy raft]

https://www.quora.com/Is-beef-roast-the-butt-of-the-cow

[potent echo]

There's a difference between ass and butthol

[upper sun]

so i tried playing dmc5

it sucks ass

this is not melee combat

[marble crater]

DMC is one of my favorite game series I am not good enough to fully enjoy, or at least was the last time I tried it many years ago

[lethal lagoon]

Capcom always goes hard.

[untold niche]

this person has a ds4 but kills muties with bb

and the wall

im not pilled

my teammates are actually getting worse

[hardy raft]

well your name does tell the tale

this game does have a lerning curve

:3

[untold niche]

same person uses purga on a mauler

[marble crater]

Purg is great against Maulers though

[untold niche]

if i do the same shit you guys would type with 100+ messages in 10 minutes

[hardy raft]

what he said

[untold niche]

wouldn't ds4 be better

[hardy raft]

it kills them quicker yes

but pruga still has infinite cleave

[untold niche]

against one mauler.

[marble crater]

Depends, is there one mauler or are there 10 maulers?

[hardy raft]

so pack of maulers you can just blast them first and then snipe with DS4

[marble crater]

Or 1 mauler and 100 trash mobs

[hardy raft]

ah

[upper sun]

trust me its a lot easier now

[untold niche]

against 1 mauler.

he took out his purga

for that one mauler.

[potent echo]

Purg kills 1 mauler as quickly as 100 mauler

[upper sun]

im just spamming lmb and getting S ranks

[untold niche]

he has ds4 :v

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

Ds4 risky

Purg no risk

[marble crater]

Lone mauler without trash around, DS4, mauler group or with a lot of trash around then purg

[potent echo]

Lmbaby

[lethal lagoon]

Breathing is risky.

[potent echo]

True

Imagine how many breathes you taken in your life

[vestal fulcrum]

We truly are living on the edge

[potent echo]

One of them can go wrong

[untold niche]

what risk

[lethal lagoon]

It'd be so "cool" if we could see the probability of death with everything we do. Like a .001% chance of choking to death floating above a bag of chips.

[untold niche]

there was literally only 1 mayler

ok game crashed

[lethal lagoon]

A cool .007% floating above the stairs

[hardy raft]

well

[vestal fulcrum]

Would the chance go down had I had a stair walking license?

[hardy raft]

100% death rate all over you

[lethal lagoon]

That's the interesting part. What if it said 99.7%

[untold niche]

imagine one day, you are reaching home.
a 99% is floating above your house door

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

you turn back, 95%

left and right

99%

[potent echo]

I really want souls ghosts in real life

[lethal lagoon]

I'm an american. That's just a chance to get a 1-0 ratio.

[untold niche]

come home from exam

failed

parents door

50%

[lethal lagoon]

I am the exam

[untold niche]

run to house door

61%

[potent echo]

Slow kneel into face plant

[untold niche]

parents now 32%

bring up excuse that its because not enough money for tuition

78%

bring up girlfriend

5%

[potent echo]

I watch videos online and they show me girlfriends' help with studying

[lethal lagoon]

5% chance of you having a girlfriend?

[lethal lagoon]

help me step-brother, I'm stuck in the bookcase

[untold niche]

my dear purga psyker level 269 as well

[hardy raft]

why are you a book

[potent echo]

Let me find a dictionary

A big

[lethal lagoon]

I got hit by a bus while saving a girl and now I'm a book in her bookcase that she reads every night

She licks her fingers when turning the pages

[potent echo]

KFC book

[untold niche]

weird fantasies

[lethal lagoon]

Only thing weird is the nights where I don't make it back to the bookcase

[untold niche]

she forgot you on the metro and some homeless person used you in multiple, unspeakable ways?

[lethal lagoon]

She would never forget me

[untold niche]

as you tell yourself while the homeless person is having his fun

[lethal lagoon]

📗

[untold niche]

🥛

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/mnB3xe

I did not deserve survive this

What a mess

[untold niche]

why assail when you have void
could have cleared the corridor if you used void instead of assail

[potent echo]

Ez game

[supple dock]

Ooooh I see where your mistake was!

@lethal lagoon might agree

You somehow misselected assasil and not smite*

v.v

[potent echo]

Smite probably wouldn't have survived there

Smite vs mutant trains they might ignore it if there's too much stuff around

[untold niche]

^^^ stop ignoring me

[supple dock]

i am 81.2% sure it prolly would've carried the scenario

[untold niche]

[potent echo]

I see no issue with the assail use

[supple dock]

nah assail is fine

[wind spruce]

assail was needed to stagger through stuff

[supple dock]

Smite's stupid strong in bad sitaution though

[wind spruce]

but there was moments when void wouldve been better

[lethal lagoon]

Why think when you can go brr

[supple dock]

Void prolly woulda allowed you to push aggressively if you recognized the danger sooner

[untold niche]

could have used void here and cleared this corridor
the shotgunners would be on their ass and the normal zombies would have died after 1 shot

[supple dock]

but by the time you realized it you were committed to your position v.v

[supple dock]

tbh this exact scene doesn't look all that dagerous until a few moments after

[potent echo]

Holding in the room is sus when the pubs immediately eat shit instead of holding any form of line

[wind spruce]

maybe but there was a ton of shit in my face

if i wasnt assailing and weapon swapping to DS to block i mightve got hit

[untold niche]

it is already dangerous when you have no escape route

[potent echo]

He did escape though

[untold niche]

here as well, you spent 10% peril to hit two targets with assail when you could have spent the same amount of peril to charge up void

[wind spruce]

but at this point in the night im in tired and should go to bed mode not im playing perfectly mode

[potent echo]

Also he brought the aggro forward to allow the pubs to pickup

[supple dock]

yee, but when you aren't in danger (or perceive none) you don't act safely

[potent echo]

Definitely false, your void won't hit with autoaim

[untold niche]

technically didn't
he had to turn back
i assumed his teammate cleared his back for him, but i don't know.

He wanted to move forward, and failed. He would have succeeded if he used void

[wind spruce]

im also trying a new build where i run solidity with DD void so i can purposefully spit out extra assails

[supple dock]

Pubs start dying to a standard mixed horde and you can see the moment the danger clicks to Irosk in his gameplay lmao

[wind spruce]

so its on my mind

[potent echo]

He gave them space to revive good enough

[untold niche]

non inclined floor, would hit.

[potent echo]

It won't hit all they not lined up

Assail hit all

And you don't need to aim

Relieving mental stack let you focus on surviving

[wind spruce]

about 30s before it happens im running backwards because i aggroed it all

[untold niche]

it would

[supple dock]

lmao. You can physically SEE the "aw fuck me" moment

[wind spruce]

but i use void right after that?

[potent echo]

This is extremely small nitpick

[untold niche]

thats true.

[wind spruce]

or maybe i dont

[supple dock]

It's here

You got hit by a mutant that shouldn't be alive this deep and your ally got dropped

[wind spruce]

chad bot gets the res

[pine brook]

Best horde sweep weapon for pskyer?

[wind spruce]

so funny

[potent echo]

Assail point blank staggered the shotgunners enough that he survived

[supple dock]

funny enough? they have the best hordeclear in the game. Do you want melee, ranged, or blitz hordeclear lmao

[untold niche]

anyway, i really feel no need to use assail when you have void.
but theres also the caveat that i use illisi, so on defence areas i can just swap to illisi.

Also i prob used void abit too much since i would know if im going to be fucked way ahead of time

[pine brook]

Melee/

[supple dock]

I say "best" but I mean "most effective for least effort"

[potent echo]

Assail has more upfront stagger

[potent echo]

DD plus any melee and you cooking

[pine brook]

???

[supple dock]

The Illisi Force Sword is a very good option for specifically horde clear, so is the mark 6 combat blade, dueling sword mark 4 is better for single target but can still manage hordes with it

[potent echo]

Or just use illisi I guess

[untold niche]

if you average player like me, just use illisi
they say ds4 can manage horde but its more of "not dying to horde"

[supple dock]

well

"manage in hordes"

[untold niche]

only pro players like them can horde clear with ds4

[supple dock]

is a better way to put it

lmao

[potent echo]

Use DD and ds4 actually clears

[supple dock]

or just get headshots like a human being

[untold niche]

i use DD all the way :(

[potent echo]

I clear horde with Deimos

[wind spruce]

DS is just adequate in hordes, even with all the buffs

[untold niche]

pro player

[wind spruce]

and i am king of DS cope

[untold niche]

pro playerS

[supple dock]

irosk places DS4's clearing potential at a B rating!?

[untold niche]

ijm going to change my name back to average polayer

[potent echo]

I pay to win

[wind spruce]

0/10

bad weapon

[potent echo]

Game is easy when you playing at 165fps

[supple dock]

lmao

[wind spruce]

meanwhile im playing at like 16.5 fps

[supple dock]

I play at 165 fps

[potent echo]

I would shit myself

Crutching on fps

[untold niche]

i play at 70 fps but sometimes it drops to 6 so its actually worse than 30 fps constant

[supple dock]

I mean you can always strip shadows and make every mission look like vent smelter

[untold niche]

ps2

[potent echo]

Arco settings

[supple dock]

naaaah

Not a full texture strip

That shit is so fucking awful to play on

[untold niche]

i had to do that when one of my ram died

[supple dock]

Did it for like 2 days and was like

[untold niche]

you get used to it but its kind of sad

[supple dock]

nah fuck this

[untold niche]

its like school food

[supple dock]

Then I realized it realistically saved me about 20-30 frames

[potent echo]

I would say RAM is cheap but

It's hard to find old RAM

[supple dock]

...so now I play with textures

[untold niche]

tbf there would be less stutters as well

[wind spruce]

i should probably do that tbh

i get fucked on by fps drops all the time

[potent echo]

The VT2 pro settings

[supple dock]

my fps went up by a pretty significant amount

Without shadows

Blinded me tho

[potent echo]

No shadows no nothing everything flat like kerillian

[untold niche]

i was playing 16fps when my ram died on scab melee only with my caxe (before i strip texture)
Thats where i learnt how to 1v6 crushers with caxe

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/bbb6H.gif

[untold niche]

i could predict their every move

[wind spruce]

which settings do i change

i am compooper illiterate

[potent echo]

Shadows

[supple dock]

Oh, you have more graphics options mod?

[potent echo]

Ambient occlusion

Basically everything off

[wind spruce]

nein

[supple dock]

Sec

[potent echo]

Global illumination

Zero

Gone

[wind spruce]

i can DL it

[untold niche]

AO gone really looks like shit ngl

[potent echo]

Flat

[supple dock]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/236

Gonna load my game so I can get screenshots of the options required to make the game look so bright you'll actually need sunglasses

[wind spruce]

oook i have mod now

[supple dock]

Everything here off and low

off

Basically anything involving light goes

[potent echo]

Everything off

[supple dock]

and yes, stare in awe of my custom crosshair

[wind spruce]

😮

[supple dock]

in normal settings

Turn all this shit to low and off

Then reload the game

Off/low

Keep textures on low/medium, very low looks fucking terrible

Like physically painful to the eyes

Do you have DLSS turned on?

Cause if not you shouuulllld

[potent echo]

What native resolution they running at?

[supple dock]

if it's 16 fps I'd assume 1080

[wind spruce]

Yeah I have that

[supple dock]

o7 good

[wind spruce]

Res in settings is 1920 x 1080 if that's what u mean

[supple dock]

Then yeah, tank all the settings I gave you, restart game, put on sunglasses and get like 30 more frames stable

[wind spruce]

Ok I done all this

Resetting

[supple dock]

Funny enough though you may need to bump up your brightness settings

By like... a little

Turning off all the light settings fucks with shadows to the point where it can become hard to differentiate stuff, so the extra brightness lets you see more detail if you don't turn it up too far

[wind spruce]

JESUS CHRIST

WHAT AM I LOOKING AT

[supple dock]

LOL

It looks pretty terrible BUT

[supple dock]

Yep

But your frames

You should have SO MANY MORE

[wind spruce]

It's definitely smoother lmao

Smooth like my brain

[supple dock]

This is the half-measure I suggest people take

If they don't wanna play on a PS2

[wind spruce]

Ima test in a game

[supple dock]

o7

[wind spruce]

See if I can see anything lmao

[supple dock]

Expecting reports promtply

It's playable

I recently played like that for a good while

It's very playable, there's ONE option you can do to allievate it though if it's that bothersome

@wind spruce "Local Light Shadows" should be it

[wind spruce]

I'm getting major flickering

I'll show u in a tick

[supple dock]

Yeah I know what it looks like

unforatunetly it's part of the price

Easily ignorable in combat since it's usually the geography that looks fucky

Try the local shadows. I actually didn't even look at that option when I tried to turn one or two things back on to reduce flickering

and ping me when you respond, gonna be looking away for a bit

[spice veldt]

one source of that is setting the RTXGI scale too low

[wind spruce]

God this is so much smoother

Even when im recording

and totally playable, i dont even notice the flickering when im in combat

[supple dock]

Mmhm!

Very ignorable in combat

But actually playing/recording?

Well

Those videos better only be instructional in nature

[untold niche]

not me learning map tech from some randoms

i failed tho :(

[supple dock]

That's an old one!

[untold niche]

the red ping wasn't there at first

[supple dock]

Stand on the box, dodge-slide to the side

[untold niche]

there was only blue ping

[supple dock]

Not just dodge

but make sure to press ctrl too

[untold niche]

hes also the one

that made it thru the big vault door

before it opened

dodge slide too?

[supple dock]

Jump into the door

[untold niche]

just jump?

[supple dock]

that's it. jump and hold forward

[untold niche]

no special spot or need to do it before something happen?

[wind spruce]

Every video I upload shall look like this now

[supple dock]

i haven't really experimented cause no reason to. I jump forward when the door unhinges and I do it near the center

Idk if it works or doesn't work otherwise

[untold niche]

as in

he could do it

when we were still fixing the

stuff

not like just before opening

[hardy raft]

with a knife?

i know you could jump across using like poxburster

but just movement?

thats something

[wind spruce]

You can do it with DS5

Dunno how else

[vernal blaze]

how much stamina does eating a plogryn charge drain again

[wind spruce]

Still get flickering with the local light shadows

But it's no big deal

[wind spruce]

Depends on your weapon

And it's zero if you have KD

@supple dock thanks man

[stuck finch]

Stairs are my arch enemy as a Trauma enjoyer

[supple dock]

Yeah np! I had ended up fucking with it myself on my quest for more frames 😄

nevermind that I have a laptop version of a 4060

frames are an addiction

[wind spruce]

lmao

[supple dock]

knife or any large movement weapon should work just fine, you slide dodge (making sure to press ctrl) and you'll make it. And if you don't, you'll hang off the edge close enough for someone who did make it to pick you up while laughing at you

[spice veldt]

ultrathin laptop gaming

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1258924855060070431/image.png?ex=669b9ce3&is=669a4b63&hm=f65bc4544ac5335f6744a83528bf44cd8860a8472c5e8b392687751d73778eeb&

[thorn cedar]

all of our tech is down today

and our offices cannot disable UberEats for some reason

my manager already put their two weeks in last week so

its fun to watch

[pine brook]

Who else having problems with idication of buff stucks?
Disrupt Destiny just stop apear at my buff tab for some reason D:

[restive ice]

yeah it’s a known issue

[wind spruce]

Get the extra buff bar mod

[jovial juniper]

Go off of vibes

[wind spruce]

Just play with no ui at all

Manage peril through audio effects

[upper sun]

laptop chads of the world unite

[upper sun]

is this the OCE meta?

[jovial juniper]

Boss skip, might have become more valuable with the changes to the finale of Consignment Yard

[haughty star]

I liked my acer but they are absolute dog butthole to work on