Gets BM too
#psyker-class
lyric burrow
ornate hamlet
Power sword fits into the anti-mobility niche of Darktide to me
It's powerful enough with damage, cleave, stagger and attack speed that it nullifies most of your need for evasion
Rager? Just activate and spam light attacks
Crusher? You don't need distance, just dodge the overhead
rich spindle
Its overtuned for sure
But the lack of mobility and clunkiness of activating charge hinders its clutching potential
untold niche
is it better to slide slightly before or after?
rich spindle
Sliding uses your speed at the time you pressed it pretty much
untold niche
the full yellows aren't me.
But im having more fun than ever playing cknife
rich spindle
So do it right at the very end of the lunge speed window
untold niche
Sliding uses your speed at the time you pressed it pretty much
then i assume slightly before is better right?
since the k nife heavy, after you attack it slows you down slightly
rich spindle
Yes
I dont pay attention to what part of the knife animation it is tbh
I just try to remeber the timing when the lunge ends
I think its p much as the knife is mid swing
rich spindle
Another cool thing is if you need to spam slide faster to dodge gunners, you can let heavy attack go sooner
untold niche
rich spindle
🔥
upper sun
so close
untold niche
39 more nemies
mental rock
A shame they halved the kill requirement for that 
lyric burrow
I was actually sad
I was just about to get it
At this point i probably have 1 million
analog agate
A shame they halved the kill requirement for that <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
Agreed
It was the only border you couldn’t really cheese. It meant you spent a ton of time playing the game. And the best way was harder difficulties
lyric burrow
I will agree 1 million kills is p grindy and unreasonable for the average player but
I didnt mind
dusk void
Is this sword any good, or do I need to tweak it up a bit?
dusk void
I got stuck with it, unfortunately
untold niche
pox burster train, they shot it, i flew away. 3 minute game
lyric burrow
Yeah i mean thats perfect outside of that
upper sun
At this point i probably have 1 million
untold niche
we all do, too much
upper sun
same just kidding
untold niche
upper sun
that fucking frame tho
whenever i see it
i at least know that person isnt going to be shit at the game
lyric burrow
I use it on zealot for psyker i use the 1000 missions one or w/e
upper sun
uhhhhhh
upper sun
i want to see my progress
i wanna say heretics?
lyric burrow
Heretics iirc
upper sun
idk where shit is after the updates
you have the default frame
if you see it the person with it is either gonna die in the first section or solo the entire mission
but that frame thats the FUN frame
untold niche
wait is there a hot live update
upper sun
they're either ok or godlike
untold niche
i can see other people sfull weapons ass an icon in the loading screen now
upper sun
i dunno i just closed the game 5 minutes ago didnt notice anythign
lyric burrow
Havent played yet today
untold niche
im looking at a zealot that just shot his bolter at this distance into the pack of shooters ( 1 remains, the closest one)
untold niche
i dunno i just closed the game 5 minutes ago didnt notice anythign
LEMME TRY TO GET a screen shot
caps
if i hover over it i could see their actual weapons
Im assuming its always been thjere, and its just that i didn not notice the press TAB to switch to weapons
quartz barn
This has been a thing for a while now
Atleast since the penance update but i think it was there before that
Not too usefull outside of shitting on some pub's loadout tho
Id rather let their score speak for itself
lyric burrow
Yeah thats just a feature now
untold niche
hmmm.
untold niche
is it just my region, or theres more people abusing the bot bug now
quartz barn
You mean die, leave, rejoin?
quartz barn
Idk ive personally seen it less often nowadays
quartz barn
Either because most people have their ASS title now or because playercount died down again
Most of the time people get dced instead of just leaving outright
lyric burrow
Why do you want to quit DT
quartz barn
I just play late at night sometimes when i dont know what to do
untold niche
makes me angry, and getting repetitive.
quartz barn
Like yesterday 
untold niche
well not angry
strong gulch
Being able to view a lobby's gear like has been a feature for months now.
untold niche
but i realize i gotten more toxic
maybe its genuinely because my region is getting worse
untold niche
Being able to view a lobby's gear like has been a feature for months now.
i see, i quit for 2 months
quartz barn
Being toxic isnt bad however, depends on your perspective
untold niche
eh, right but it isn't good either.
like what use is there of me complaining on this discord
at the end of the day im looking for some sympathy over someone being bad at a casual game
quartz barn
Content for the rest of us
quartz barn
strong gulch
Like at least 9 months ago. IDK exactly when.
lyric burrow
I mean if you arent enjoying it no harm in not playing
untold niche
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
The life talk here is more meaningful to me.
Idk obviously everyone's situation is different but hearing unique experiences makes you feel less bad that no one understands you.
untold niche
I mean if you arent enjoying it no harm in not playing
Nothing else ATM that is like this game for me.
Not gameplay wise but more of casual-ness + amount of action wise.
Maybe helldivers 2? But I don't like that game
quartz barn
Hd2 is kinda shallow but gameplay is cool
quartz barn
Maybe try first descendant or smt but i havent seen or played it
I know a few friends of mine are playing it nonstop tho
untold niche
Eh grindy games, I will be into it then 2 months later I will randomly drop it
quartz barn
As if darktide isnt grindy
untold niche
Not really. Most of the grindy games os pretty brain dead.
DT isn't that brain dead
And teammates loadours make the experience different
Usually those grindy games you do the literal same thing over and over again
potent echo
then i assume slightly before is better right?
since the k nife heavy, after you...
tsktsk
no need that do the secret tech
hold lmb with knife and spam "1"
thats the real tech
untold niche
Show video, isn't 1 change to melee weapon
potent echo
yes
quartz barn
Is this some upside down OCE tech
potent echo
its literally that simple
untold niche
Also I changed my 1 to "swap qwapon" instead
potent echo
you want melee weapon
potent echo
i dont have 
untold niche
I shut down my computer
potent echo
gimme 5min
untold niche
Okeh boss
potent echo
force sword also can do this but need to slide
potent echo
my crouch is on mousebind
ezgame
its literally the button you are going to be pressing the most
untold niche
Ok channel breakdown
Vet - iLoveVet
Zealot - dominated by personalities
Psyker - diverse channel. Slight personalities. Pragmatic.
Oggie - wholesome, role-playing.
untold niche
my crouch is on mousebind
Same
quartz barn
I just malformed my pinky
lyric burrow
Nothing else ATM that is like this game for me.
Not gameplay wise but more of c...
Yeah gameplay is pretty unmatched
potent echo
nurgle pilled
potent echo
hd1?
quartz barn
Push donw hand to press shift ctrl
potent echo
with my setup thats gonna strain my wrists lol
untold niche
Yeah gameplay is pretty unmatched
Don't hate me for saying this.
I genuinely don't think the game is that fun. ( I'm not referring to your hours, I'm just saying I'm not like a super big fan of it)
Irs just ir suits whati want atm.
If you are referring to darktide
quartz barn
Ye i rotate my hand instead of moving my wrist
untold niche
Yeah i am an outlier
Tbf I'm super idk, realistic? Like I try to see stuff for what it is, going beyond if I enjoy it or not.
I don't think you are an outlier
I'm just abnormal
Like DT, beyond the stupid penance and cosmetics, is a pretty solid game.
I just don't think it's super unique or fun
quartz barn
Me but with scuffed soulslikes
quartz barn
Those are fun to me just because theyre scuffed
Both because it usually makes it harder and because its often comical to me
lyric burrow
I don't think you are an outlier
I mean outlier i terms of enjoying it enough to play it for 1600 hours and want to keep going
quartz barn
Like look up any ladder from bleak faith forsaken
lyric burrow
Im not the only one but
fringe garden
The way the game uses audio and visual cues in such a frenetic environment to enable a player to dominate is pretty unique imo. It has a way of pulling a player into "the zone" that very few games have.
lone wing
darktide (when it works) is really fun
untold niche
Like look up any ladder from bleak faith forsaken
Damn I never heard of that game.
Can you elaborate on "scuffed"
Like is it bad gameplay wise or what
potent echo
damn now that i put on movement analyser it seems slower doing the spam 1 tech
quartz barn
Not bad per se, just not great and kinda clunky
Usually makes it more interesting because of it
Picture bad hitbox, but both for your hits and enemy attacks
untold niche
The way the game uses audio and visual cues in such a frenetic environment to en...
This is pretty common with multilayer games.
And to me, its too explicit. ( in DT)
There's more nuance than explicit = bad of course. And I obviously also don't want to puzzle 10 audio cues before I digure out a rager is coming. I just don't know how to express it rn.
potent echo
in terms of reward for playing well, DT still gives it more often than not
fringe garden
Plenty of multiplayer games have those elements, few execute them as well as DT does. For me, anyway
untold niche
Hmm. Maybe a good way to put it is, it just becomes a habit instead of you needing to use that information to further process "intel"
I.e. a simple example would be. In overwatch you hear tracer recall, you now know she has no get away. But that doesn't mean you immediately go after her or go after her at all.
DT's one more like. I hear dog bark or trapper sound I dodge sideways. Fullstop
Anything else is more of " caution"
I hear bomber, I am cautious and try to seek him out.
No processing.
At least not much.
You can argue that you need to decide if you want to seek him out or not
But most of the time is, look 360, if can't see, carry on but be cautious
If can see, shoot.
fringe garden
I think that's selling it pretty short. Because on any of the later difficulties you're balancing numerous audio or visual cues at once and having to prioritize and position based on them.
potent echo
once you know the maps, its more of prediction rather than reaction
untold niche
Lemme reply to gui first since his message came first
potent echo
the sound cues give you alot of time to know where to stand and which angles to cover etc, which changes dynamically based on where you team is and what they are doing
untold niche
in terms of reward for playing well, DT still gives it more often than not
This is one thing I have a problem with as well.
FS is afraid to add content as in mechanics no matter how small. At least it feels like that. Like skill changes never lean into play better = more reward. An example is the idea I had with arco that we change mind in motion to something like when sliding, quell more. To encourage slide tech etc
lyric burrow
the sound cues give you alot of time to know where to stand and which angles to ...
This is really cool although it can make the game feel predictable
Cause you just know where something probably is and eliminate it before its even a threat
potent echo
but its definitely satisfying to eliminate threats before they become a real problem
because they definitely can very easily
untold niche
I think that's selling it pretty short. Because on any of the later difficulties...
I have always played like a5mael or a5histg.
Genuinely I never had to change position due to sound ques.
Only example I can think of rn is mutie horde or dog horde.
But even then sometimes I just feel lazy and face them head on.
For the actual specialists sound ques I never found the need to change position. Especially when most of the time you are trying to move forward.
If I hear flamer, I do the thing I said. Turn 360, if I see, I kill. Else, cautious.
potent echo
slide quelling is already the optimal way of moving while quelling, its fine enough
cautious mainly works when theres low pressure
when its high pressure you need to decide what requires your attention the most
untold niche
slide quelling is already the optimal way of moving while quelling, its fine eno...
I mean it's just an example. What I'm mainly saying is that, hide rewards behind being able to do certain stuff. I'm not saying ALL rewards, but at least some so those who want ti get better are rewarded accordingly.
lyric burrow
I have always played like a5mael or a5histg.
Genuinely I never had to change po...
This issue is partially a player power thing, when every good player can DPS check everything it can make it hard for real pressure to happen
untold niche
when its high pressure you need to decide what requires your attention the most
High pressure, if I hear flamer, if its a corridor, I don't xare. Because most likely I can't kill him anyway.
If its defence, 360. If I can't see him yet means he's not a threat yet given his range.
lyric burrow
Esp when single elites aren't really a threat
potent echo
you need pubs to make the high pressure moments
untold niche
I always play pubs. I have never played with a friend. :v
Ok maybe 3 times off a friend I added on a random pub
But literally 3 ga.es
Games
potent echo
its usually someone overextends then dies and suddenly high pressure situation
esp if they aggroed two rooms infront of them too
20 ragers
then they go on reddit and complain 20 ragers!!
untold niche
I mean point is all the audio ques, you don't really have to process much.
And competitively to you guys I have not even played the game that long
potent echo
tide games are quite auto pilot for sure
untold niche
That's one way to summarise it.
lyric burrow
Yeah you can very much auto pilot atm
potent echo
its not the same thing for 40mins
like some rooms is flank focused, some is ranged focused, some is corridor blender
untold niche
Yeah that's my point. I'm not hating on darktide. I'm just saying it gets sort of repetitive, and it's not that unique personally.
untold niche
like some rooms is flank focused, some is ranged focused, some is corridor blend...
You play awhile and you get used to those. For good or bad.
potent echo
yea its like a comfort game
untold niche
Have to clarify again. I'm not hating on DT
untold niche
yea its like a comfort game
Yeah exactly. It's something like a mobile game. You just play it. It's not something I'm in love with
untold niche
Yoshi I hope you don't think that I have some weird takes LOL
lyric burrow
I dont think you are wrong per se
You can def just auto pilot
The gameplay doesnt get stale for me but unless im solo clutching im not really being challenged unless im duoing with josho
untold niche
You can def just auto pilot
To elaborate. I feel that even if I don't auto pilot, I don't do that much better. Which is where I should bring in it'd prob why I always said I feel like DT is 80% build and then 20% is your actual in game actions
With a simple change I went from trying hard to get 3 yellows to autopilots with 5 yellows
lyric burrow
But i do want player power to come down for a reason
potent echo
80% build?
i think DT is definitely 20% build
like getting a good build doesnt make you into chocoB
untold niche
But i do want player power to come down for a reason
I don't eant it to come down. I want it to get delegated to stuff that the player is able to pull off so he feels rewarded.
potent echo
hell chocoB uses the weirdest builds
lyric burrow
I think it absolutely needs to come down idc how hard it is to do plasma gun cannot exist and maintain balance or difficulty
Sometimes stuff is just too strong
untold niche
like getting a good build doesnt make you into chocoB
Thats like top 0.1%
And I'm not that great of a gamer in general anyway. Heck all the competitive games I played barring y1 r6 I'm just like 5% better than median
But somehow in DT with a simple build change I could top charts consistently while on auto pilot
potent echo
top damage board is definitely 80% build
but theres alot of player expression besides scoreboard
untold niche
Maybe it's because I don't see it ( beyond clutching, I'm just too lazy to play in that way)
potent echo
oh the game totally changes if you start seeing the game as a backpack
like blaming the AI director is not even an excuse you can use anymore
because spawns lower when you are one man left alive
thin finch
Allow me to doubt that
Not me yesterday seeing a 2nd boss spawn when I joined a game and was alone
lyric burrow
iirc you can lose the grace period where less spawns
untold niche
oh the game totally changes if you start seeing the game as a backpack <:KEKW_og...
What you mean by that
lyric burrow
but im not 100% sure
untold niche
Sometimes it feels like the grace period never even comes
I think that's because alot of patrols got aggroed
lyric burrow
yeah if it takes a while to get through whatever killed your team
untold niche
Gui if you meant play as trying to carry every game. I got tired of that because I don't really really want to clutch and bad teammates
lunar hollow
tide games have fantastic gameplay gated behind not using whatever the broken meta stuff is at the time
if you engage in it you make the experience significantly less fun in the long run because the game loses a ton of depth when you're viritually immortal and dps check 90% of enemies
untold niche
Hmmm. But I find it hard to decide if something is simply bad, or average ( just not meta)
lunar hollow
"average" as a term doesn't exist when gamers use it
it's all made up nonsense because you'll see 90% of items listed as at least above average
lyric burrow
anything that isnt really stupid i would say makes it a lot more fun
lunar hollow
humans cannot comparatively rate things with any degree of objectivity
untold niche
Exactly my point :v
How do I decide how underpowered i should be
lyric burrow
like combat axe p sword etc
lunar hollow
you pick stuff that isn't insane that you like
lyric burrow
Exactly my point :v
How do I decide how underpowered i should be
thats up to you really, use what you find fun and doesnt trivialize the game
nothings gonna make the game brutal but
itll help
lunar hollow
stuff outside of ciag/caxe etc generally hits the "usable but not game breaking" line fairly quick
untold niche
Been using cknife because I find it fun and funny to run right up to gunners and stab them. But then tbh it's horde clear turns out to be fairly decent.
Just that I die alot more and don't top charts.
Yet irs also starting to get slightly repetitive.
lyric burrow
tbf if you are dying a lot with knife its something to improve on which is the most fun part for me
untold niche
But when I played ogryn with mk2 club. I just felt it was unfun everything I get severely chucked when there is more than 3 gunners. Even though that'd prob the intended experience.
untold niche
tbf if you are dying a lot with knife its something to improve on which is the m...
Eh 3 downs compared to 0-1 downs on caxe
lyric burrow
ogryn can struggle with gunners situationally
untold niche
Yeah but it feels bad for me
scarlet timber
ogryn can struggle with gunners situationally
except gun lugger
untold niche
Like I understand its intended
lyric burrow
that is not a rare complaint
scarlet timber
one that stacks infernus no?
lyric burrow
the 6 on psyker already crits p often
you have true aim scriers etc
high base crit chance
lunar hollow
if you're running like scriers recon the crit chance is high enough as is and dumdum boosts dot damage
untold niche
So like where do I draw the line of "ok this is intended so learn how to play with it" vs " man I just don't like this"
scarlet timber
josho?
scarlet timber
if you're running like scriers recon the crit chance is high enough as is and du...
i see okay
thx
wait this whole time
you were josho?
lyric burrow
So like where do I draw the line of "ok this is intended so learn how to play wi...
wherever you want to i suppose
lunar hollow
my name gets transformed by an evil wizard in zealot chat fairly often
the pfp stays the same
lyric burrow
like we cant really give you a line, id say below combat axe for sure
lunar hollow
i probably wouldn't play a weapon i do not find fun
i think most things in this game are sick but i just cannot use devil claw because ragers run through me 90% of the time they spawn
untold niche
I genuinely had alot of fun on void DD psyker because I had to learn alot of stuff, mechanics and positioning etc. That's prob the most fun I had. But then I got to the point where I could auto pilot every thing I learnt then its no longer fun anymore :v
lyric burrow
but w/e is fun for you and gives you the intended difficulty
scarlet timber
i think most things in this game are sick but i just cannot use devil claw becau...
really?
but thats one weapon that kills them
also
lyric burrow
he means like
untold niche
like we cant really give you a line, id say below combat axe for sure
I fully understand. My point is that, most of the time what I like would prob lean into OP for the feeling or the power fantasy.
lyric burrow
they arent targetting him
scarlet timber
you could run shock maul like a devil calw
lunar hollow
yeah and they don't aggro me so their attacks aren't parryable
lyric burrow
and he cannot parry them
lyric burrow
I fully understand. My point is that, most of the time what I like would prob le...
if you enjoy the power fantasy thats fine, but if you mainly get it from killing everything fairly easily then you are going to make the game feel easy as a side effect
untold niche
That's the dilemma I'm facing.
which is also why I want power to be placed behind the player being able to pull off stiff
Stuff
lyric burrow
so youll kinda have to pick if you dont get it from overcoming difficult situations using more reasonable tools
id probably just do whatever is more fun
untold niche
There's also the aspect that grinding for a weapon takes ages
lyric burrow
im not immune to using OP stuff i run assail all the time, i just swap the melee/gun around often
i have been going back to BB more though
untold niche
Eh I hate all three psyker nades
lunar hollow
There's also the aspect that grinding for a weapon takes ages
itemization 🙏
lyric burrow
i really enjoy assail which is why i use it
its just
so stupid
yeah crafting is ass
which is unfort
because it makes you not want to try stuff
lunar hollow
perilous combustion decreases my will to live the more i notice it in a match
untold niche
Ngl I find PC really funny tho
lyric burrow
PC is so ass
untold niche
I don't have it on like purg or blaze trauma
untold niche
But it on void is funny because irs like a 5 for 1 deal
lyric burrow
but its so mind numbing
untold niche
Kill 5 crushers game gives you one for free
lyric burrow
i love assailing half an elite pack and everything else dies
very difficult gameplay
untold niche
Imagine, if they made it so that PC only works if you headshot with trauma
Terrible idea, good spirit. You get what I mean
Damage of it depends on how far you shot the hewdshot
lyric burrow
i wouldnt hate it being more conditional although anything that is on elite kill in current DT will probably be dumb when you kill 80 per game on your own
untold niche
I don't want conditions as is. Like oh kill elites. I want conditions where the player has to work for it!!!
lunar hollow
can't wait for the datamined psyker talents (which might end up as blessings tbf) where u get like
heavy attacks electrocute
(which probably means smite)
lunar hollow
that'll be awful
unreal wasp
~300HP Psyker in max cosmetic armor, full Psy-knight ftw
lyric burrow
do things i cant say on this server
dont put it on smite though
you will not hear from me again
lunar hollow
i hope they release half of them as incredibly overpowered braindead nodes
lyric burrow
why do you hate me so
lunar hollow
and u end up with p13 assail again
untold niche
heavy attacks electrocute
Next day you see the weapon with highest max cleave become meta.
Game literally becomes kovaak
upper sun
if i hover over it i could see their actual weapons
Im assuming its always been ...
nah that was always there
lyric burrow
please do not delete all my hard earned plasteel
untold niche
I wang plasteel, I just don't want the grind to be so insane
upper sun
break hadrons kneecaps and throw her off the ship
untold niche
Plasteel is funny
upper sun
please do not delete all my hard earned plasteel
DELETE PLASTEEL
untold niche
Like DT alternative end game is effective plasteel farming
lyric burrow
i worked for this 120k or w/e i have now
untold niche
Dude there should be a game mode
lyric burrow
spent a bunch on the new weapons
untold niche
Where you try to hit time on getting plasteel
Then those speedrunning knife zealot actually have something to play
untold niche
I want to hunt for them :(
lyric burrow
i would be very ok with this
untold niche
Like I always laugh at myself
Kill 1 gunner infront of 3 crushers
See plasteel to the right
3 crushers no longer exist
Skip to plasteel
Pick up plasteel
Resume game.
lone wing
after testing several builds, i dislike smite with a passion
untold niche
I WILL SPEND A CHASTISE JUST TO GET PLASTEEL FASTER
untold niche
after testing several builds, i dislike smite with a passion
How come
lone wing
idk what it is, ive used all 3 a lot now. i know smite scales on difficulty, but i just, dislike using it 
much prefer to throw angry rocks then rush in like a dumbass with a sword and weaving the rocks in
after yoinking a friends build i am a fan of scrier's gaze
lyric burrow
smite is probably the least fun thing i have ever used in a video game
nailing my hands to the desk sounds more appealing than running smite for 10 seconds
untold niche
I have never encountered something so over powered needing knowledge yet so unfun.
upper sun
plasteel should just be a flat mission reward like dockets
i fucking wish
untold niche
Like you have to have some base understanding of the game to understand how to use smite
Yet its so unfun
lyric burrow
idols are cool
lone wing
i try to grab the skull for a free boost
upper sun
ye i dont mind shooting them
untold niche
So you guys don't enjoy running thr side route to hunt for plasteel?
lyric burrow
its like alright ig
lyric burrow
but id prefer it just be a reward
upper sun
MAKE IT AUTO PICK UP
untold niche
but pathing for plasteel is bullshit
:v
But yes I would like auto pickup. I don't want to press e on it
upper sun
i dont wanna cuck people out of ammo because im spamming E
untold niche
Don't you look first?
regal jasper
can i fix this or did hadron fuck it up
untold niche
i spam E so i can get back into the gameplay <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
I get out of gameplay so I can pick up my pretty little flowers
lyric burrow
uncanny precog and elites/whatever isnt that bad
upper sun
can i fix this or did hadron fuck it up
maniac for groaners and uncanny for precog
its not bad
or slaught
whatever you like
lyric burrow
slaught works too honestly although i prefer precog
precog can be hard to land
is the only issue
lone wing
precog on that sword is...not my favorite
lone wing
precog on my knife or duelling sword however
upper sun
just combo it into heavy 1
lone wing
lyric burrow
psyker doesnt get attack speed
upper sun
doing ninja shit and trying to land a precog heavy 2 is hard
eager token
the smite psyker standing in the back smiting 8 poxwalkers while the squad is being run over by maulers and ragers 
lone wing
the smite psyker standing in the back smiting 8 poxwalkers while the squad is be...
smyker moment
lyric burrow
they are helping dude
lone wing
me personally
untold niche
I'm going go sleep. Good night peepo
upper sun
gn
untold niche
I say this but you might catch me typing for another 30 minutes before I really slee0
potent echo
yeah if it takes a while to get through whatever killed your team
yea thats the draggiest part, but a totally different game you dont have coherency regen anymore
untold niche
lone wing
pop scrier and walk fucking forward hitting weakspot heavies on anything even remotely close
lone wing
I say this but you might catch me typing for another 30 minutes before I really ...
literally me
potent echo
peeposleep
tired estuary
I'm glad the inquisition is going to kill off most rejects after the tertium war ends b/c that'll include every smite psyker
eager token
do you prefer psykers who hold the smite or psykers that one tap it to knock everything over
eager token
EP smite puts me to sleep tho
tired estuary
I prefer them d/cing after getting downed b/c a single poxwalker flanked them
lone wing
I'm glad the inquisition is going to kill off most rejects after the tertium war...
lore-wise the ones who are blessed directly by the emperor (the ones we as players control) will be fine
potent echo
EP smite is a nice warmup game kind of playstyle
tired estuary
its a nice "get long covid" kind of playstyle
potent echo
cough
ornate hamlet
EP smite is great warmup for when I send them to hell in Minecraft
upper sun
its a nice "get long covid" kind of playstyle
so tru every EP smite takes the same amount off your life as 2 packs of cigs
untold niche
Whenever someone say ep smite I just think of Pygex video and atlas spamming stuff
Agent hasn't been that active I noticed.
upper sun
atlas is 92 years old thats the only build hes allowed to play at the old folks home
upper sun
Agent hasn't been that active I noticed.
he said hes taking a vacation until the crafting update come s
potent echo
he last posted a picture from a helicopter
untold niche
potent echo
living the life 😎
untold niche
I think after reading that the only thing left for me to do is sleep.
potent echo
seep
upper sun
hes the guy that brokers deals between the humans and the hollow earth lizards
quartz barn
i thought the hollow earth was inhabited by hitler riding a t-rex?
yes this is an actual thing btw
brazen rampart
open psyker chat
actual brain rot
closing psyker chat
upper sun
jovial juniper
He couldn't handle the Warp style
thin finch
Maelstrom has been cancelled boy , Atoma is saved 
cosmic sigil
hes the guy that brokers deals between the humans and the hollow earth lizards
@plucky flax is that true?
vernal temple
Seems like a good 380 base for when the itemization update comes
vernal temple
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cosmic sigil
So hmm i tested scryer infernus recon yesterday.... that's very very dumb
final trellis
Does warp charged attack with a force sword count as warp attack? sounds silly but I'd like to confirm that
final trellis
ooh nice, thanks!
cosmic sigil
final trellis
Do people get annoyed if you're not playing with a staff?
analog agate
No
halcyon gust
Not really
Just be mindful of the ammo pickups and not be a ammo hog
Unless you're on a team with 3 staff psykers then go crazy
final trellis
Good to hear, staves just don't work for me
spice veldt
those people exist but it's probably better nowadays
halcyon gust
I enjoy using staffs
Means more ammo for the sweet brute to use his big guns
And in no ammo Malestorms still having the ability to be a range class when everyone runs out of ammo 25% into the mission and shaking the poor vet down for more Ammo
cosmic sigil
i never had people with anti gunker stances in my lobbies
most of the time they even ping ammo for me
halcyon gust
Only thing I silently judge people on is how well they use resources and vets not running survivalist (Pre-Nerf)
Post nerf. Don't give a damn about Vet's aura any more
cosmic sigil
however, if i don't qp and see that i am with another gunpsyker in the lobby or a stubber ogryn i change my loadout: i take saff with my psyker / ammo aura with vet / kickback with ogryn / zealot stays the same i just melee more
having one ammo intensive build is ok... 2 is a bit pushing if i don't know the players
halcyon gust
QP as vet I generally run on my Hellbore 2 set since it is my most ammo efficient set if I feel like the group is storm troops and will blow all their ammo on the first horde of the game
cosmic sigil
i should probably try the helbore more
halcyon gust
I main the Helbore 2. Nice fast charge time so you don't need the faster charge shot blessing
inner pilot
analog agate
Runngun to nexus. Unarmored to flak
cosmic sigil
man that's the last purga you'll ever need
spare rapids
what kind of build are people using to get the empowered psionics penance?
smite isn't killing things with it, assail isn't killing things with it, and BB seems like nerfing myself to run psionics instead of warp charges.
upper sun
i used brainburst
marble crater
Which penance is that again?
spare rapids
kill specialists with empowered psionics
specialists/elites
bb seems like the way to go but i dont want to change my build to do it
jovial juniper
smite isn't killing things with it, assail isn't killing things with it, and BB ...
EP Smite + blazing shriek, the blaze is what kills them
spare rapids
soulblaze kills count towards the penance?
lethal lagoon
Nah, creeping flames elevates EP smite, but the vast majority of the damage is from the EP smite.
jovial juniper
Good question actually
lethal lagoon
They shouldn't, but EP smite is great at grabbing kills because it's constantly ticking. Both the smite penance and EP penance should finish very fast.
jovial juniper
Would the kill count because they are being affected by smite
Or should smite be the one to deliver the final blow
lethal lagoon
soulblaze kills would count towards the smite penance, but not the EP penance.
jovial juniper
And if you're going to run Assail with EP the aimed shots received some buff lately
The empowered aimed shot
spare rapids
i got the smite one quickly, the EP is going slowly, so im changing to BB
jovial juniper
Make sure to take Kinetic Resonance
spare rapids
i can blast an elite with an EP m2 charge smite and it wont even kill them
digital narwhal
spare rapids
smite do be the worst
marble crater
EP assail will get it done when you run into dogs, gunner and shotgunner groups
stone totem
smite isn't killing things with it, assail isn't killing things with it, and BB ...
Warp charges feels better to you than EP??
For BB ^
Maybe I'll try it again but that charge time boost is so good
spare rapids
I love warp charges on it
haughty star
I like bb. It's honestly not bad with shield
upper galleon
Yea idk about warpcharges BR
Losing all your stacks kills your breakpoints
You can chain EP BRs with the elite kill, and you can get good cdr options anyways
halcyon gust
what kind of build are people using to get the empowered psionics penance?
Brain burst and if you get the skill that gives you a charge on killing a elite. You just chain pop elites with it
And beyond that you earn from passively playing. You can speed it up doing Shock trooper gauntlets where elites and specials spawn more often
scarlet timber
amazing spawn location am i right?
willow hazel
Can someone explain the bleed assail hype? I tried it the bleed damage is underwhelming
cosmic sigil
the idea is that if the shard doesn't one shot the ennemy, the bleed will finish it soon after
jovial juniper
But as all bleed build, you could just kill the target 
Unless you apply 8 stacks of bleed
Hmm there might be something here
And maybe 6 blaze
upper galleon
wait what psyker weapons apply bleed?
Assail applies the bolt pistol puncture blessing (bug)
Add on PC and venting shriek and you got some deadly dots
upper galleon
Yes very unintentional
spare rapids
i dont build my builds around bugs typically :p
upper galleon
Probably for the best
dark swift
this worth picking up from melk?
dusk void
Is it worth it to get the 30% toughness regeneration speed for one of my perks on my curios for the psyker?
viscid heath
Is it just me or in maelstrom psyker goes down in 1 hit even from random trash zombies let alone specialists
and if a flamethrower is on the ground you are flat out dead
spice veldt
we don't have a +50% tdr talent, but we also don't have any particular reason to have to get up close to enemies
if you haven't split your jump and dodge actions into different keybindings, i'd do that
and just spam dodge and call it a day
potent echo
Psyker best stam Regen and good dodges
ornate hamlet
I use dodge and jump on the same, but use the mod to prevent jumps while dodging
Quite goateded
ornate hamlet
Is it just me or in maelstrom psyker goes down in 1 hit even from random trash z...
The thing about psyker is, you're outright unkillable if you're sweating
Kinetic deflection with the lowest stamina delay, empathic evasion, two damaging blitzes that give you infinite ammo, staves
Shit's fucking cracked
Vet is the only other class that has what essentially is 100% push uptime, and that comes at a hefty point cost
potent echo
Ideally psykers deals with issues before the ragers and flamers are twerking all over them
ornate hamlet
Sometimes I have gamer moments and wish psyker's peril stuff was more "haha dumbass" than "oops, you clicked once more than you could"
Like not blowing yourself up with assail LMB
Like, when you do an RMB charge with the plasma gun and blow up, you earned it
willow hazel
the idea is that if the shard doesn't one shot the ennemy, the bleed will finish...
Yeah but the bleed only applies with the bolt pistol equipped, so it feels like it's just losing DPS. I tried a few games and at best it was adding 5-10% ranged damag
thorn cedar
and your shard already does/can one shot so many things
bleed isnt warp damage either so no synergy there
its really just a gooby lil interaction is all
i would 100% much rather be stacking dumdum for my assail shards
willow hazel
and the place bleeds are the most relevant is against bosses, but there are so many better ways to apply bleed to a single target than Assail
jovial juniper
Laspistol shove into Assail question mark
eternal lagoon
any good dps tech trees for psyker?
potent echo
Check pins
untold niche
HOLY SHIT
cosmic sigil
but in September i'll be back in Europe, so you'll play with me 😄
cosmic sigil
yea recon exists
infernus recon scryer is hella fun tbh
strong gulch
That's rough.
untold niche
does +elite stack with other +armour types?
potent echo
Yes
untold niche
orite thanks
oh ya gui
can type again how to do the weapon switch slide thing
thanksss
potent echo
Someone lied to me and I never bother to test with movement analyser until yesterday
untold niche
i think lightbringer combined that with the normal tech
thats why after he slides he swaps weapons, and swaps back.
potent echo
I think just normal tech is good enough
It's already faster than horde
Don't really need anymore
Faster than horde and* stamina neutral
untold niche
wait im trying it but doesn't work
like if i press melee it just does nothing
esp dureing the lunge
i will just combo
potent echo
You don't actually swap weapons
untold niche
ya, just press melee righty
untold niche
oh ya, it doesn't work while lunging, i thought you meant it would work while lunging
quick question does brittleness affect unyielding
untold niche
another quick question
does riposte stay even after switching weapons
well it does stay, but does it affect the other weapon?
spice veldt
probably not
untold niche
any code divers active?
potent echo
Just get the crit chance mod
untold niche
blessings usually only activate while held
doesn't uncanny work when swapped
or am i confused
spice veldt
nah
wind spruce
doesn't uncanny work when swapped
Nope
spice veldt
not anymore at least
untold niche
Just get the crit chance mod
doesn't seem to be really accurate
s4lmon told me he got 85% off cknife crit spam build but we calculated it was only 75%
spice veldt
it seemed accurate to me at least
what were the talents and stuff taken
wind spruce
doesn't seem to be really accurate
s4lmon told me he got 85% off cknife crit spa...
It's definitely accurate, just has some weird interactions when you're mid swing
untold niche
@ arco
untold niche
It's definitely accurate, just has some weird interactions when you're mid swing
aight lemme try the mod
wind spruce
Eg it doesn't show the crit chance from tac Axes modifief mid swing iirc, but thats no biggie
spice veldt
55% from piety + scourge, 20% from riposte, +5% from base, so there's +5% missing/added from somewhere
wind spruce
Perk?
hardy raft
5 from base?
potent echo
I notice the knife thing too
hardy raft
thought knife when swung is +10% crit
potent echo
Might be a hidden crit modifier for knife L3 or smth
untold niche
scourge 3 stacks - 30%
piety - 15%
righteous warrior - 10%
Thats 55%
Zealot base 5%, cknife base 15%
75%
spice veldt
oh right knife has its own crit chance
i was only considering zealot's base crit chance
untold niche
is cknife base 15 or 10?
spice veldt
oh is that w/o riposte?
untold niche
yeah
wind spruce
is cknife base 15 or 10?
15
untold niche
im going to go download the mod now
if it works im going to see how crit affects burn
if it doens't increase much i might change toi bolter
wind spruce
So I'm strongly in the camp of warp flurry + surge being better than nexus + surge now
spice veldt
checking in the psykh, the mod properly shows that it's 75% with the aforementioned talents and a grey combat blade
untold niche
thanks, prob he just remembered it wrongly
untold niche
checking in the psykh, the mod properly shows that it's 75% with the aforementio...
wait could you test if riposte affects gun
untold niche
So I'm strongly in the camp of warp flurry + surge being better than nexus + sur...
i had the chance to use both, i think flurry feels better but i like nexus more, esp against crusher packs
potent echo
Flurry is more consistent
untold niche
the faster charge time is also just nice.
potent echo
Nexus is nice when you need it to work
wind spruce
Because of true aim and faster casts
untold niche
nexus feels like you are limit testing all the time
potent echo
When you are all out of buffs at max peril nexus will be there to help
wind spruce
The number of surge procs is basically the same
PLUS
If you're using assail, you're almost guaranteed to be sitting at +2 true aim stacks
untold niche
i don't think its "basically the same"
theres alot of factors to consider too, even if we assume its true
spice veldt
wait could you test if riposte affects gun
the mod shows the same crit chance% with or without riposte up
wind spruce
It feeds surge aggressively af
potent echo
If you play scuffed melee / void flurry also better than nexus
spice veldt
so riposte doesn't affect ranged
untold niche
Fuck
wind spruce
Because even if assail consumes true aim, it's likely to hit a couple of heads
potent echo
Surge itself also generates true aim
wind spruce
The ~20% extra crit chance from nexus gives you an affective crit of much less, I'm spiralling here, but I'd say sub 10%
wind spruce
Surge itself also generates true aim
Exactly
potent echo
Flurry surge gaming
wind spruce
Has anyone used power DI? It slows my system down too much so I've barely used it
untold niche
whats that?
wind spruce
It should be able to track voidstrike RMBs and surge procs, right?
potent echo
Although flurry makes me want to spam void more which is more boring than doing melee stuff
wind spruce
whats that?
Mod
untold niche
oph
wind spruce
Although flurry makes me want to spam void more which is more boring than doing ...
Psykers all about that integration of attack modes
But I feel you haha
untold niche
whats that buff at the bottom?
is it the cknife heavy-faster-sprint buff
potent echo
It's a talent isn't it
untold niche
idk it just popped up while attack the air
untold niche
i think all four of mine combined barely hit s300
spice veldt
whats that buff at the bottom?
is it the cknife heavy-faster-sprint buff
desperation i think? the damage on running out of stamina
spice veldt
i think firerate is separate from the burn application rate so attack speed will just make you run out of ammo faster
but i'm not sure
untold niche
wait chastise doesn't apply crit on ranged anymore?
or apply crit at all
spice veldt
it's never applied crit on ranged
the only benefit of chastise that ranged got was the armour downgrade
only melee received the crit and whatnot
untold niche
the only benefit of chastise that ranged got was the armour downgrade
that got nerfed i know
ohhh
potent echo
Just burn bukwarks
But I like chastise for the dash sometimes
Like you can dash while burning, so pure utility now
untold niche
:(
still waioting for bomber and flamer curio to be combined into one
i also don't like how gunner resist is almost compulsory
broken carbon
whats that buff at the bottom?
is it the cknife heavy-faster-sprint buff
desperation
procs when u run out of stamina, it’s on the left side
it’s 20% more melee damage
oh arco already answered it nvm
untold niche
idk i saw him use ep smite then he did something
then boom boom
tbf im the knfie zealot that dodged on a trapper but still got caught
spice veldt
it's possible to suicide if you charge a secondary and cast it if you're already at 100% peril
untold niche
all is balanced
spice veldt
but you do have some time to contemplate the consequences of your action before casting it
broken carbon
smite psykers make me sad because they all suck
lethal lagoon
it's possible to suicide if you charge a secondary and cast it if you're already...
Wait really?
How have I never done that before
spice veldt
simply too smart
lethal lagoon
I feel like running an EP smite build precludes you from that category
No mortal man can blow up using smite.
I'm geniunely impressed.
lethal lagoon
tbf im the knfie zealot that dodged on a trapper but still got caught
Now I know why you don't like souls
spice veldt
man why does smite have this cool glowing ball and animation for what it actually does
lethal lagoon
Hmm, shooting out a tesla ball could be more interesting than just standing there
untold niche
Now I know why you don't like souls
nioh had much tighter dodges than souls
lethal lagoon
The problem is that it's a roll catch
untold niche
im showing i suck
untold niche
i just realized its because out of habit im dodging when the trapper stopped running
not when the sound comes
lethal lagoon
There are two sounds anyways
The first is to trick you into dodging
And then you'll be on cd and get caught
delicate smelt
Not if you have the mod that warns you when the net is coming
wide quest
Should I even grab this for my psyker?
untold niche
And then you'll be on cd and get caught
maybe i shoukld go back to malice\
delicate smelt
For hadron yes, you do need that bromentum 4 available.
wide quest
Aight
wind spruce
For hadron yes, you do need that bromentum 4 available.
Headtaker 4 more to the point
Higher tier bromentum makes fuck all difference
wind spruce
Should I even grab this for my psyker?
This is just good. Perfect blessings, so you can do what you want with the perks
And the stat roll is fine for a 360
stark crown
Melk is selling this, should I even bother?
wind spruce
Melk is selling this, should I even bother?
No
strong gulch
I wish I liked void staff.
lethal lagoon
maybe i shoukld go back to malice\
I feel like if you went back to malice and got trapped you'd never emotionally recover.
untold niche
ATLAS
STOP BEING MEAN
thats not true, i just don't like how you are bullyting me
can you change the colours for the hit indicator?
compact cargo
untold niche
i need to stop auto piloting
untold niche
Long answer is good effing luck
the mod is broken?
potent echo
No
It works but
There's zero documentation out there other than people who bothered to tangle with it
Maybe dorn would know
strong gulch
It's absolutely cracked
It really is. I just hates it precious. 😭
potent echo
restive ice
ogrussy
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
<a:nyaBlushing:732175276632571984>
Council has decided you get a ban too.
supple dock
upper sun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249316075028353107/1263402106237358192/W...
thanks i really needed to see that in 4k
supple dock
😄
upper sun
im downloading uhhh uhh free music?? and i cant see it rn
strong gulch
WTF. You were like a baby stuck to a sim's hand.
lethal lagoon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249316075028353107/1263402106237358192/W...
Honestly, deserved.
Were you freed after your team killed the mutant?
marble crater
supple dock
Were you freed after your team killed the mutant?
I was just dropped normally it was weird
but yeah i was freed
true rover
untold niche
apparently, they did this because in other country, when you find something in your land, government can send people to dig your land and you forced to pay for it
quartz barn
Not really how this works?
When it comes to stuff like this the finder and the owner of the land the item was found on/in split the profit
potent echo
You guys own land?
quartz barn
But for things like buildings that get qualified as a national monument it needs to be kept in good condition, and those costs do go to the landowner
untold niche
Not really how this works?
tbh i have no idea, jsut reading the comments
quartz barn
It would be more logical that they wanted to avoid the potential excavation
upper sun
apparently, they did this because in other country, when you find something in y...
yeah same in my country if you find shit gov takes it
vestal fulcrum
Unironically, this is very usable
On an “optimal” Illisi with Venting shriek as your ability, you typically want to have low warp resistance
hardy raft
unironically depending on what else you get that might be a godroll
supple dock
this is actually a very good sword
oh
everyone's said that already
LOL
Also I forgot how cool the Animatrix was
The medium styles of every story is so unique!
ornate abyss
I take a lot of toughness damage playing psyker
2 regular gunners can easily take it to zero
potent echo
yes
ornate abyss
and the curios I see being used are health, stamina, stamina
potent echo
one regular gunner will drain it in less than a second
why so much stamina
who did you see use those
ornate abyss
why not toughness x3?
potent echo
you can run anything but i never need stamina on psyker
if you feel you dont have enough toughness then run more toughness curios
ornate abyss
but mobility, blocking requires lot of staminnna
ornate abyss
You can run more? Block more
potent echo
crab dodging is faster than sprinting for most psyker weapons
for block you mainly need the peril block talent and its enough
unless you plan on block tanking daemonhosts
wind spruce
Plus you should be sliding when sprinting to conserve stam
One +3 stam curio is fine
But absolutely no more than that
potent echo
sliding when sprinting is much slower than crab dodging on forceswords, i think on duelling swords too
but duelling swords have movetech
wind spruce
True, but sliding has its advantages too
potent echo
i know because my friend always outpaces me sprinting at the start of each mission by just dodging lmao
strong gulch
Yeah. Toughness is quickly eaten by a gunner. Psyker does have some pretty good toughness regen nodes and also Puppet Master that increases your coherency toughness aura.
potent echo
or at least equivalent speed
wind spruce
You can attack and quell while sliding, and you get to face the right direction haha
potent echo
yea in active combat you will be sliding alot so your stamina wont be too taxed either
but if you ever run out of stam crab dodging is great for schooving too
potent echo
thats also true
strong gulch
Psyker stam regen is quite good. +3 stam is great, but depending on how you play or what you are stacking gear and talent wise, you can skip it.
There is also gunner resist and deflector too.
potent echo
+3 stam is nice especially if you combo with peril block, literally block the whole mission
but i rather have extra health and toughness
strong gulch
Still, if you stay out in the open and not dodge slide or dodge at an angle, you're kinda toast.
potent echo
the amount of times i survive on 10~ HP
strong gulch
the amount of times i survive on 10~ HP <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
real
marble crater
Just kill everything that can hurt you 
quartz barn
Extra stam isnt even for blocking, but for pushing too
And since you're usually running / sliding all over the place you can run out of stam pretty fast
wind spruce
But because of psykers low stam regen delay you can spam push infinitely anyway
strong gulch
If you need more time to collect your thoughts, having more block is helpful. Slow brain friendly.
quartz barn
True but that can lead to some scuffed situations where you have to spam push > slide out while trying to deal with the stagger from getting your block broken
wind spruce
KD solves most of those situations though
And shriek lowers the odds of getting trapped like that even more
But you're right in that extra stam isn't really for blocking when you reach a certain level. The only time I notice not having extra stam for blocking is when I'm ressing
strong gulch
ye that
wind spruce
Even rager packs you outpace really easily with a dodge slide or two
quartz barn
It doesnt even matter vs ragers anymore
strong gulch
Psyker stam short regen, +3 stam, and KD makes my zealot feel like they have so little stamina.
quartz barn
Their new attack speed paired with their hitbox is bs
marble crater
Psyker stam short regen, +3 stam, and KD makes my zealot feel like they have so ...
Zealot has no stamina because they are shouting all the time
wind spruce
Their new attack speed paired with their hitbox is bs
Atleast they reduced their range
Honestly i don't even find them to be that brutal
Although it is hilarious how slow scab ragers seem in comparison
quartz barn
I mainly notice it because i used to weave in attacks while moving in and out of their attack range
But now i usually get hit while im backing off which feels bad because it seems like i get clipped all the time
supple dock
who did you see use those
stamina stacking is based and I will see no mockery of it
rich spindle
I run stam curio but I think it pretty much just lets me res
Maybe 1/5 games I need to block a billion rager attacks while a crab walk away
quartz barn
+9 stam gaming
winter bloom
ogryn main, whats crab walkin
upper sun
its a vet thing
rich spindle
Its when you are performing an action like ads, blocking, or casting as psyker, so the fastest way to move is to dodge diagonally in a zig zag like a crab
analog agate
Tells me why I meet so many bad psykers in game. The question is fine to ask. But people giving their reasons why are just… many clearly have bad builds with psyker
quartz barn
Not another support oriented player ffs
Wouldnt say psyker is the hardest class tho, you can do fine with relative ease which isnt really different on vet/zealot
Psyker does have the highest skill ceiling however
mental rock
ogryn main, whats crab walkin
Crab walking is moving/dodging while crouched, specifically a vet mechanic because of marksmen focus
analog agate
I can’t remember. What did we call it when force swords had infinite dodge and we just zoomed sideways everywhere?
rich spindle
Huh. I assumed it just meant dodging to move
lucid terrace
I can’t remember. What did we call it when force swords had infinite dodge and w...
Fun
rich spindle
TehKingofPrussia
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No get out of jail card? You have no idea what you're talking about. Bubble+Smite=Congratulations, you've just shut down 95% of every enemy around, by yourself, in the space of around a second and you can keep doing it more or less forever.
radiant frigate
if the jail is roughly boss-shaped and in your face, that move does nothing actually
cosmic sigil
Tells me why I meet so many bad psykers in game. The question is fine to ask. Bu...
Psyker is the only class I cannot play braindead.
rich spindle
You dont get it. You can just smite maulers forever
Just keep smiting them until you win
60 minute match
jovial juniper
We should pair up and go 4 psykers smite bubble only
tired estuary
No thanks
analog agate
I'm sorry amigo, if you can't hard carry with a staff that will make any five enemies in the game stop what they are doing and stand there for a few seconds and take damage on top of it in the time it takes you to right click, left click, and then then R. that's the definition of a player issue. The only staff that matches it in versatility is the purgatus staff. The purgatus staff just has different enemies and situations it's weak again
If i'm running surge staff I rarely get into a situation where my whole team is dead, because I have the tools that stops all the specials that suprise wipe teams. When i am in that situation pressing my F key to push/light everything around me on fire and some slash/push with my Illsi typically gives me the breathing room to go back the dogs/trappers etc under control.
What I'm getting from this is you aren't super great at melee crowd control, and that's fine a lot of people aren't, and it's a learned skill. But that's not an issue with a surge staff. It's jsut an issue that you can kind of get around with staffs like the purgatus.
lunar hollow
that is ANCIENT
analog agate
And yet… they all moved on to smite/bubble
lyric burrow
Unfortunately
untold niche
I'm sorry amigo, if you can't hard carry with a staff that will make any five en...
i mean hes not wrong its just kind of a long message
abit too long
and the amigo is kind of
whos the original? first was by lazorr but i doubt he wrote that
lyric burrow
It was a reddit post iirc
untold niche
lyric burrow
Ah right it was the guy derpy was talking with
Was this the same conversation where someone said that surge staff horde clear is insane
Or was that separate
I remember derpy was a part of both
analog agate
lyric burrow
This takes me back
analog agate
And just keep in mind when reading that…. That regular smite is infinitely better than old surge staff
lyric burrow
Old surge staff was uh
Something
I remember at some point everyone just resorted to quell cancel m1
haughty star
We should pair up and go 4 psykers smite bubble only
Literally electric bugaloo
quartz barn
Mfw i never used surge back then because it couldnt compare to my void roll that ended up being the strongest thing in the game
And then void got buffed on top of that lmao
analog agate
And void was meh too. Purg and trauma were the only staves to do well and consistently
lyric burrow
I liked old void but it was a little meh although it was good at dealing with shooters which was actually important back then
thorn cedar
old surge hit six targets
and only really did damage to the first two
you saw the same shit you do today with smite, where people would spam their staff in a horde
surging six groaners at a time and refusing to draw melee
lyric burrow
Uhhh ive never seen a horde stand up to surge staff even in damnation
severe folio
anything new ?
lyric burrow
I forget the exact copypasta😔
upper sun
anything new ?
no
severe folio
sleep
upper sun
see you after the crafting update