psyker-class

[broken carbon]

that’d be cool

but the downside is you lose a lot of the benefit of a flamer

being able to kill mixed hordes really well

[supple dock]

yep! It clears the armor but it does jackshit to flesh

[broken carbon]

having to switch just to deal with flak

would make it very obtuse to use

[supple dock]

Yes, but that's why it's a special function that gets used in edgecases anyways

Gives the staff something "else" to do

And it'd look cool af

[broken carbon]

i think just a brittleness infliction with little damage would be better

that way it’s more like melting the armor off

[supple dock]

probably. Would be cool. Probably too op though ):

[broken carbon]

yeah

idk if it could be balanced but

it’d be pawesome

[supple dock]

Maybe like...

15% max with about 1second being 1 stack?

or rather 1 second being 2 stacks

[broken carbon]

15% is too low

[supple dock]

15s is a long ass time lmao

[broken carbon]

hrmrmmm

[supple dock]

but like it's a broad thing

Could be the difference between psyker force sword killing 3 in one swipe or 1

(not that it matters but you get my point)

[broken carbon]

like maybe a max of 30-50% brittleness that depends on how many stacks of burn it has

idk

too tired to think

[supple dock]

What about...

30% debuff after being hit by the alt fire for 3.5s in total

for like 4 seconds or whatever

so it's something you gotta commit to but the infinite cleave makes it mega potent

Same feel as fire because you need to hold it on the target to get the critical mass of stacks required to kill

[vernal temple]

idk why but it always feels funny when my paper thin psyker manages to clutch while vets, zealots and sometimes even ogryns get smooshed

just had a heresy level mission with low intensity and extra dogs where two VoC vets and a shouty dropped from a horde of groaners

[upper sun]

me as the ||hounds||

[vernal temple]

nosh

[ornate abyss]

what perks should I use

[supple dock]

terrifying barrage > warp flurry + ranged damage specialists > flak

groaners isn't....preferable but its better than specialists imo

for purg in particular I mean

[ornate abyss]

can the staff be made acceptable for auric damnation?

or should I scrap it

[supple dock]

yeah, what I told you and it should be acceptable

[ornate abyss]

I don't have warp flurry tho

[supple dock]

Ideally your perks are gonna be: Maniac, Flak, Unyielding, Elites

Blessings: Nexus/Flurry

For your stats you want damage to be your dump stat

The stats you want maxed are Cloud Radius and Burn

[supple dock]

There's like 4 blessings it's not too hard to get

[ornate abyss]

this is decent?

[upper sun]

burn is a bit low

you need 76 for maximum soulblaze stacks

but if you're blessing hunting get it to blue and surrender it

[upper sun]

better but clouds a bit low

[ornate abyss]

I'll be ruined if I buy until I find where both are high

I mean I have 1,5 mil but stil

[upper sun]

yeah dont force it

and tbh dont use buy until with purge

you dont need high damage or warp resist on it

[ornate abyss]

here maybe

[upper sun]

better but the quell is a bit low

[supple dock]

low quell is ...fine

Usable in AD with the right perks and blessings

[ornate abyss]

here

[upper sun]

now we see what works

flak and nexus are the highest priority

flurry and other perk less so

[ornate abyss]

This is the best I'll get for now

I should switch barrage with nexus

[upper sun]

yeah

[ornate abyss]

and now it is actually pretty good?

[upper sun]

yeah

im still stuck on using one with groaners as a second perk lmao

[ornate abyss]

now for the real question

do I use this

or this?

[upper sun]

purge already has hoard clear id rather go obscurus

but even better a deimos or a ds4

[ornate abyss]

do I go weak spot damage on perk?

[undone musk]

any smite build ?

[upper sun]

nah id go carapace or maniac

weakspot doesnt do as much damage as you would think

the formula for that in game isnt 10%*weakspot+weakspot its 10%(weakspot - normal damage)+weakspot damage

its a lot lower than general perks

[ornate abyss]

alright

but the blessings are good, happy I rolled precognition

[upper sun]

yeah theyre good

[ornate abyss]

do I switch sprint efficiency to flak?

or I mean carapace

[upper sun]

yeah id go carapace try it out in meat grinder beforehand so you dont waste plasteel

[ornate abyss]

ye

[upper sun]

ds4 already does good flak damage so you dont really need that

maniac for ragers/muties or carapace for maulers/crushers

[plucky flax]

Basket EP smiter build.

[near wyvern]

I am once again testing a new attack string format for melee weapons in The Atheneum. (Currently only for Combat Blade and Shock Maul).

If you have the time to give it a look, any feedback is appreciated especially for the readability and ease of understanding so I can make the guide even better than what it is 🙏

[ornate abyss]

is collateral important?

[upper sun]

It effects the suppression of the weapon

i have no idea if it effects breakpoints tho

theres a blessing for that gun that makes it do more damage to suppressed enemies

[scarlet timber]

guys

whats the build

on deimos???

[upper sun]

mania+unyielding/carapace and uncanny + your choice of blessings

or you can go full meme and do stamina block uncanny deflector

[scarlet timber]

is this bricked?

you know clad?

[upper galleon]

Change stam and change a blessing depending if you want to keep deflector or not

[scarlet timber]

i just keep it then

for rework

[near wyvern]

Break points are in The Atheneum

[scarlet timber]

tbf i got this one but couldnt get manaic...

[upper sun]

YES YES

SURRENDER TO THE MEME

MAKE A DEFENCE DEIMOS

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159179748828786758/1261735632506589245/ezgif-6-edc5fa29b1.jpg?ex=6694b320&is=669361a0&hm=e69d9958bf2fcd84be27a9e987a7ba2d614a222e725197ecaaee9d2155b41859&

[scarlet timber]

believe it or not

i have friend...

who has maxed out his stamina

got 4 different elissis

all with deflector

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[scarlet timber]

and stamina and block efcciency

but was gonna ask

is this build okay?

[upper sun]

everything works now

[scarlet timber]

i dont know if this weapon is any good tbf on psyker

do i need unyielding damage on

surge?

[upper sun]

surge is flak+ your choice

maniac unyielding elite crit

maniac and elite are the most popular tho

[scarlet timber]

so tehn is thiss good?

[upper sun]

with maul tho id think hammerblow is better with skullcrusher

[upper sun]

flak is the priority over elite

most enemy center masses are flak

so dreg and scab gunners would be flak in the eyes of a surge rmb channel

[scarlet timber]

i see then thx

[upper sun]

ye same reason flak is recommended for flamer/purge/trauma

[scarlet timber]

tbf

i run the crit aura

cuz i though this staff needs the crit chance

[upper sun]

it has a higher crit base by default

should be 18% with crit bonus at 79

[scarlet timber]

i see tbf

i dont get this staff

i dont know what melee to pair it

so i went with the bunk stikc

[upper sun]

just saw the combos for mauls pretty nice

[scarlet timber]

@upper sun what

do you think

of my maul then?

i got a shock maul for this staff

for the ultimate zap

[upper sun]

i know nothing about mauls tbh

i use one with thrust on zealot and its comfy idk

[scarlet timber]

okay

so mauls anhilate anything

that isnt unyielding

mine got 70% pen which i am sad about

but otehr than that its okay

[upper sun]

pen scales roughly

[scarlet timber]

unyielding though

[upper sun]

10% pen is like 1% extra damage

[scarlet timber]

you might aswell hit them with vet noodle

[scarlet timber]

ehh it said 3.4%

[upper sun]

is it bad on heavies?

[scarlet timber]

let me show you

so you know how most weapons got huge dmaage boost to their unyielding right?

like let say deimos

[upper sun]

yeah

[scarlet timber]

well

the mauls actually do less damage

than every other melee wapon

against unyielding

now you might say oh

this isnt bad

well here is the thing...

the main damage blessing

on mauls is skull crusher

guess what most unyielding enemies are immune to?

getting staggered by weapons

anyway

basically i need to compensate for htis

i wodner how good is surge against bosses?

[haughty star]

does anyone non ironically use ds5?

[scarlet timber]

Me

Why ? You ask ?

[haughty star]

what does it do

[scarlet timber]

Oh strike down except if goes up and comes down straight

And basically got absolutely fucking zero horde clear

[haughty star]

so no poke and worse horde clear?

like what would be the ppoint of picking over ds2 or 4?

[scarlet timber]

It's literally if you can't aim the poke

Oh also it got better push block and stamina economy

So its more defensively oriented

[haughty star]

okay so like better for controller users.. probably?

[scarlet timber]

Other than that

Probably

Yeah actually

It got really easy hesdshots

Like one arm monkey can target weakspots with this xD

[haughty star]

not being facetious but at that point why not deimos?

[scarlet timber]

Cuz

That's also a poke

If you can't aim the poke

Go with dsv

[haughty star]

i think h2 is a strikedown but yeah you gotta combo into it

thats fair

[scarlet timber]

H1 you mean

But that attack it got wrong profile

Cuz its a horde clear attack

H2 is also poke

Pokes are all strikedown attacks

Strike down means attack with devastating single target damage and low

Cleave

Vanguard attack is a sweep attack with huge cleaves but not much stagger

Relentless got more stagger but less cleave

And then assassin is a quick attack that targets weakspots easily but does lower damage than strike down

You usually see it on fast weapons like knife , tactical axe and dueling swords

Also forceswords

[near wyvern]

High voltage + Lightning Reflexes is the way to go, forget about skull crusher

@scarlet timber the combo strings for Shock Mauls are in the Psyker Atheneum, I actually updated them today to a new format, would appreciate if you can take a glance and give me feedback on readability and ease of understanding

[fair spruce]

Your attention please

Your attention, please

Thank you for your attention

[scarlet timber]

Thank you

Although how come you don't run it though it can give up to 80% damage on non bosses

I see what you mean

You say anything

That is hit by it will be dead

[upper sun]

fatshark balance

lets nerf the fuck out of unyielding damage because we have thrust as a blessing

[plucky flax]

Fastest movement duelling sword. On par with knife.

It's swag and good with blaze trauma.

[haughty star]

i have fallen in love with assail

doing surge assail ds4, shriek and disrupt and it's just mmmm

[haughty star]

i might try er out

lol emprahs gift

also question for the more swanky characters here

would ya'll go soulstealer or EE for a assail build if you had to choose? both could add some pretty nutty figures for defense

this is what i'm running rn

[haughty star]

woudl you say this is serviceable?

[plucky flax]

No you have 2 doodoo perks.

But you sounded like you don't like ds5.

So why bother try it?

[haughty star]

i was just wondering if uncanny was a neccesity or if having two damage perks works on this one

i haven't tried it lol i was literally asking about it cuz i was curios

[plucky flax]

Yeah uncanny is still needed to kill crushers.

I like riposte and uncanny on my ds5.

Cos the dodge at 15% dodge distance is like 2 metre long.

So riposte procs so easily.

Perks I use same as ds4. Maniac carapace.

Since I only use my ds5 for specials/muties and crushers.

It's been over 2 months. I actually miss the game and want to play some darktide.

[hearty oak]

The first descendant has taken over my time. Really good time sink till danktide gets some updates

[lime creek]

does warp flurry work on the lightning staff right click or only left click

[plucky flax]

I want to try that too.

Even though it's grindy korean game

[upper galleon]

why woudl warp flurry even work on left click

[lime creek]

isnt it just chained attacks

[haughty star]

lol

it decreases charge time

there is no charge to lmb

[lime creek]

ah

lmao thanks

[haughty star]

exclusively for right click

[jovial juniper]

If you want to shoot fast with LMB
Use quell to skip animation

[haughty star]

wait just like alternate between them?

isn't there a way to cheese that with rmb too?

[hearty oak]

Honestly? It's not that bad. Maybe I been unlucky in some areas but overall, the game is actually really good

I could have a higher tolerance though

So it's really a "either you like it or you dont*

[untold niche]

for shock maul does the parry stun inflict skullcrusher?
also does skullcrusher get reset on different targets?

[jovial juniper]

M1>R loop (needs some timing)
And there's quell/QQ cancelling for the RMB, I'm not really into those though

[upper galleon]

I'm unsure if stun/electrocute counts as stagger

[hardy raft]

possible gunpsyker?

[halcyon gust]

Pretty workable as one of those....siblings

[upper sun]

its already 1/4

[halcyon gust]

Well

You do have to talk with

And pray she is in a good mood...

[jovial juniper]

Play some smelter/Gloriana first

Appease the Machine

[upper sun]

bruh smelter is kinda rough after the event changes not gonna lie

i think i'm 1-3 since they updated smelter there

[halcyon gust]

The only thing that trips me up is the old hold out spot is a lot weaker

[eager horizon]

So, what's the word on using this for my Psyker?

[untold niche]

for gunker? or staff

[eager horizon]

Staff

[untold niche]

i feel surge/void staff anti horde would be more important so illisi, or DS4 if you are running trauma / purge
Because shock maul is not able to hit bruiser 1 taps (compared to illisi)
And ds4 give mobility + easy crusher kills

[eager horizon]

Right, but I'd still like to build this out, since it's a 380

(I'd rather have gotten it on my Zealot but alas, not in the cards)

[untold niche]

you also get stuck doing the special

which will be fine for other classes

but psyker get his toughness out after literally 2 hits from the zombies

[untold niche]

i would suggest you get the parry then

since it works on ragers

which is something psyker is kind of afraid of

parry + skull crusher

[hardy raft]

it also works on bulwarks

[untold niche]

didn't know, only knew special works on bulwarek

idk if i should build it on zealot

i will prob miss my rashad BPs
Though it is way safer

[hardy raft]

the parry also works on dogs if you care about that

[untold niche]

have you tried muties

im curious

ping me when you do

going to go sleep

[hardy raft]

you cant

cause muties are superhuman drug addicts

[eager horizon]

Well, if I'm keeping scrusher, what perk should I swap?

[untold niche]

I don't think you will hit new BPs changing that perk. Just keep it as is I guess.
You can use loadout config to test, I'm just to lazy to test this for psyker.

[hardy raft]

skullcrusher is quite good cause special is actually acts as a stun so you can just light him twice and get 80% damage bonus after that swing

[untold niche]

No he meant perk

He wants to keep cara

[eager horizon]

I do?

[hardy raft]

id change hammerblow to lightning reflexes and then leave everything else as is mostly ause maniac rager/muties take forever

[eager horizon]

Alright.

[untold niche]

That's what I assume

Because I told you for blessing to take parry + skullcrusher

[eager horizon]

So should I not even bother with maniac and swap that for flak?

[hardy raft]

carapace is fine

uh

cause flak damage is 107% on 80 pen

[untold niche]

Just change the blessing to thr parry, leave the rest

[hardy raft]

and carapace pen is 90%

if you wanna kill stuff in less hits and if it actually works, get flak

but otherwise i'd just consider meleeing maulers and crushers and put carapace

[untold niche]

I don't think it will change psyker BPs ngl

[hardy raft]

i dont think so too

skullcrusher BP is wack

[untold niche]

Yeah kist leave it

Maybe new update

Then you can isw your other lock

Use

Like if something gets vuffed or nerfed

What staff are you using?

[hardy raft]

doubt

it aint getting nerfed for a month at least

:3

[untold niche]

Doesn't matter

No point easting the lock

I will be honest, even your carapace perk No point using

Because you are better off surging them

So yeah just change thr blessing.

No need to be anxious about using both locks

Maybe skull crusher gets nerfed then you need the other lock idk

[plucky flax]

The combat is good?

[untold niche]

Oh ya, go to the psk and try to melee the bruisers with all your buffs
If it can't even 2 tap them then honestly just use illisi

I don't get why you are confused

Oh ya

LOL

My nad

Wrong message

Taht was kind of extreme for a wrong message tho :v

[eager horizon]

Ain't gonna lie, I am digging the Saul on Psyker. Mayhaps its just a good all-rounder.

I didn't have parry, so I used Overwhelming Force and I really dig it

[gilded viper]

Yall prefer bubble or specialist blocker shield?

[eager horizon]

Specialist Blocker myself, only because I'm a Brain Burster and you can stack the channel buff.

Machine Gun Burstin

[broken carbon]

yeah it is

it just does everything well

[eager horizon]

Also, I get a bigger dopamine hit from a well placed Wall shield than a bubble.

[hardy raft]

wall kinda never works on BoN

[eager horizon]

Although is it just me, or does the bubble shield sometimes stagger muties?

[broken carbon]

it does

[eager horizon]

Is... is it supposed to do that? I need to re-read the nodes.

[gilded viper]

it is not supposed to no

[eager horizon]

Yeah, that's a bit odd. Also, it seems to me that you really need both wall nodes to get adequate value, where as Bubble doesn't super need Sanctuary.

Mayhaps they could buff it. Or swap the positions so you can get x2 walls without the stun

Eh, not like psyker is hurting for spare points anywho.

[hearty oak]

Very. Characters like Valby are very fun in their movement and abilities. Very satisfying for you to grind out some guns and stuff. Kind of similar in darktide but with way more characters to get and try out

[plucky flax]

Is it fps or third person?

[hearty oak]

Third

[plucky flax]

Nooo I prefer fps.

[hearty oak]

Womp womp

[eager horizon]

You and me both Being

I donnae know why, but only Third Person games I like are platformers

[hearty oak]

I'd still try it cause it's free. Also while the monetization is... egregious to say the least. I don't feel or even see any P2W aspects. It's actually paying to lose lmao

You can assign yourself a title akin to the system in HD2 with the way you named your ship.
||my title is 'friendly rock'||

[near wyvern]

It should, haven't tested how many stacks it gives though. Skull crusher is a debuff on enemy so yes it resets for new targets. For anything human size you get better value out of high voltage as they die in a couple of hits anyways. For ogryn sized it's hard to stagger them unless you use the special (which is risky). Lightning Reflexes is a much better way to stagger ogryns but you get better bang overall for your buck by combining it with high voltage.

[marble crater]

Agreed, which brings me to the question: how can coop pve games without any pvp be p2w in the first place

[near wyvern]

There is still a win condition, if you can pay money to get there easier => pay to win

It's just less of an issue if there isn't PvP but can result into freebie shaming, where free players are not wanted into the team because they bring less value

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[marble crater]

It's pay to progress if anything in this case, except for skins you can farm everything as f2p as well

And unless I missed it you can only buy the characters and some upgrade materials, but no weapons and not the things you need for upgrading some of the more important things. So you still need to farm those like all the peasants

[lethal lagoon]

Except winning, even in pvp games, is largely defined as who's having the most fun. (yes, winning is more fun than losing, after all)
If the game's progression mechanics are designed to be most fun for people who spend money, well that's pay to win.
Now, a game like Dragon's Dogma 2, or most capcom games, the micros are tacked on and can actively make the game less fun, so that would be a good example of pay to progress not pay to win.

First Descendent is without question designed to be more fun if you spend money on progression.

So it's pay to win.

[marble crater]

Grinding is the purpose of the game, you could argue it's pay to lose

[lethal lagoon]

Grinding for gear. Not grinding for one item with a low drop chance for 10 hours to unlock a character you don't even knwo if you want to play.

Plus the grinding itself is less fun if you don't pay for inventory expansion ASAP

I mean as far as korean games go, it's definitely more "ethical".

Not having gambling in and of itself is a huge win, so I'm not knocking on the game

But it's definitely p2w

[marble crater]

I'm sticking with pay to progress

[final cradle]

Hi guys, I want to ruin a Purgatus Staff and a Maccabian MK IV Sword and wanted to ask what blessings/perks are good on these?

online there's only gamelantern for builds and I've heard they are generally quite bad to follow

[upper sun]

top rated ones are bad yeah

[marble crater]

If you want to ruin your weapons then following those is good

[final cradle]

Yeah so I have no clue where to look hahaa

[upper sun]

for ds4 carapace/unyielding with maniac

[final cradle]

ds4?

[upper sun]

for blessings uncanny + anything

dualling sword 4

[final cradle]

oooo

[upper sun]

cant go wrong following the guide

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[plucky flax]

I am not rich enough to play korean gacha games.

[final cradle]

thx

so would this be worth buying

oh wait, wrong staff I'm blind

[quartz barn]

bit late on this, but bubble stagger is bugged and triggers whenever you dodge

its obv not supposed to stun as thats what wall is for

[upper sun]

for nexys 4? yes

to use? no

as a good rule of thumb never buy anything from melk with less than 370 rating unless you need a blessing

[vernal temple]

So they pulled him out of the Mausoleum and brought him back to life?

[lethal lagoon]

Neither are they, they just have 40k on 3 credit cards.

[stiff falcon]

Played with him

Not that good

[vernal temple]

as expected, from a 39,000 year old mummy

[plucky flax]

WHO ARE THEY

[lethal lagoon]

You know who THEY are

[haughty star]

Dark and darker is irritatin

no tutorial, enemies are strong asf, movement is slow and boring

[plucky flax]

[long wharf]

I play Dark and Darker just a little, with my kids and friends

never by myself

I really dislike the extraction pvp formula

[sterile saffron]

Does anyone have a favourite keystone?

[jovial juniper]

EP

[strong gulch]

Depends what I'm maining.

be it weapon or blitz

[rich spindle]

Wait what can u explain this more

Ive noticed this too

So when they are inside the bubble and the psyker dodges, they are staggered?

Or anyone dodges?

[spice veldt]

the inside of the bubble gets treated like a wall for some reason whenever you dodge them iirc

[jovial juniper]

Same as when you dodge on the stairs

[junior linden]

which recon? I like gunker and wanna try something new and I heard it got buffed

[jovial juniper]

2 or 7a

[junior linden]

ty

[haughty star]

Be warned 7 is by far the worst for ammo consumption

[sweet beacon]

2 or 6d if you want the game to play itself for you

7a is a bit more tame but almost doesn't feel like a recon

[rich spindle]

6d is the fastest one right

[sweet beacon]

it is yeah

only downside to it is the slower reload

[rich spindle]

Didnt know that

Reload is kinda a pain in the ass

Would you say 2 is superior then for scrier's infernus build

[haughty star]

Ummm

I've heard the 6 is this best for that but

[rich spindle]

I guess 6 is more likely to get full stacks when crowd spamming

[sweet beacon]

6d is the best but 2 isn't too far off

if you can't deal with the slow reload just go for the 2

[rich spindle]

Is 6d best just by firing speed = more crits?

[spice veldt]

they all have a crit string of 2 i believe

regardless of their fire rate

[haughty star]

yeah but more fire rate= more crit output for burn stacks

[spice veldt]

oh infernus

[hardy raft]

i feel like its the argument of achylis vs gorgonum with fire ult

[lyric burrow]

Yeah its 2 across the board

For crit string

[sudden trellis]

the best force sword? combat knife.

[haughty star]

The chances of this thing not being fucked are slim to nulll

but imma do it anyway

[hardy raft]

i mean unyielding is usable

when you deal with bosses and infernus

too bad infernus is still capped

[haughty star]

capped for what?

this i don't understand tho

[rich spindle]

Thats already golden

You want unyielding for boss delete

And ez bulwark delete

[haughty star]

it fuckin shreds tho even without it

[rich spindle]

Shred even more

[rich spindle]

U gonna perfectly proc true aim like this in the heat of battle

[haughty star]

with something as stable as a recon it's not that hard lol

[rich spindle]

Really

On a moving target with all the enemies around u

More power to you if youre actually hitting 100% headshots

[haughty star]

it's 5 shots every half a second from the recon lol and true aim don't reset bro

[rich spindle]

I just dont believe you are 100% headshotting every bulwark

[haughty star]

nobody here sayin that but you young blood

[hardy raft]

12 stacks

[rich spindle]

You posted a clip of 100% headshots

[hardy raft]

compared to whopping 31 stacks you can get with gungryn

[haughty star]

does fire do less to carapace?

[hardy raft]

yes

[haughty star]

oof

that's okay tho that's what ds4 is for

[hardy raft]

gungryn can just ignore all of it cause 31 stacks

[haughty star]

[hardy raft]

and boss damage with infernus will always be lower than a good gungryn

mostly cause again ,31 stacks

[rich spindle]

Sad

I think with DD stacks you can beat it?

[hardy raft]

thats beating with normal damage

[rich spindle]

Oh i see what u mean

[haughty star]

dd and shit don't effect fire stacks from what i understand

[hardy raft]

gungryn antiboss damage comes from the absurd stacks he can get

[haughty star]

just in the regard of making a lasgun functional tho this is pretty nutty

[hardy raft]

p much

[haughty star]

ope

still wrong damnit lol

ere' we are

yeah i might take flak off this thing in lieu of unyielding for bossing tho. bulwarks and reapers are 0 issue tho lmao

Lmao this is so nutty

[haughty star]

@rich spindle all body shots lol which is far from realistic as weelll

[rich spindle]

u feel me

[haughty star]

ehhh for getting 0 headshots it's still pretty rapid. the bossing thing i can level with tho

can't wait to try this out tomorrow lol it's 3am here

oh it rolled out with HT3 btw

so i can just go whatever for the perks. i can live with hh3

the vids posted were with flakiak on it

[plucky flax]

Go tru aim talent. Replace headhunter with dumdum. Then stam to maniac

[upper sun]

a ranged weapon without flak? sounds heretical to me

[hardy raft]

fuck

[upper sun]

should have stopped at purple

[lethal lagoon]

Should have stopped at infantry lasgun

[quartz barn]

Atleast you got a t1 blessing out of it

[hardy raft]

tried rashad

peak assail

[flint aspen]

the quell speed on this ouch

[haughty star]

ya'll i gotta say and i hate to

but the recon 6 infernus is working better for my build than the columnus lol

i don't understand

[supple dock]

If you have more fun doing one thing, you'll be better at it than the other. Either that or it's a skill issue

[haughty star]

the only thing i really notice is lacking is ammo consumption but i dont use the gun that much on my assail build

i'm mostly ds4/assailing everything

but yeah it

it's better for bossing fer sure, better for hording overflow, better for dropping reapers

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-war-war-bingus-bingus-war-bingus-gun-gif-20147908

[halcyon gust]

My Psyker...Is just blessed and cursed at the same time

Blessed because good stuff

Cursed because this would been nice for my Vet

[rich jolt]

I use rashad on my purg build

Give it to me

:)

[broken carbon]

one day i’ll get a 380 that doesn’t brick

[halcyon gust]

So ummm. What do i change on it

[haughty star]

for what?

[rich jolt]

For killing

[haughty star]

headtaker for shred and maniac or carapace for unarmored

[halcyon gust]

Thanks

[haughty star]

Any other char i could see but ds4 exists

i suppose tho if you just like the weapon

[untold niche]

i don't think it would hit BPs on vet because 78 damage and 71 pen

[rich jolt]

I mainly just pick stuff i like

[broken carbon]

erm wrong

ur supposed to pick meta!!

[haughty star]

i don't think dude is terribly worried about bp logistics lol

[haughty star]

That's fair. i just wish my other chars could use ds4

[untold niche]

but you invest in a rashad for the BPs >:v

[haughty star]

either way one hit vs 2 hit the rashad is still strong lol. and in real time application things are rarely at perfectfly full health

[untold niche]

i will drop rashad if it 2 hits bruisers.

[halcyon gust]

Yeah.

[untold niche]

on god

[halcyon gust]

Stuff is either gonna be chipped by teammates

Or caught in the cross fire as you swing

[haughty star]

by BROMENTUM

[broken carbon]

horde enemies will usually be full health

crushers, reapers, and bulwarks will usually be chipped by teammates as well

but when it comes to ragers, shotgunners, gunners, bruisers

[haughty star]

eh yes and no. if there's a good psyker around errything chipped lol

[broken carbon]

those are breakpoints that are really important imo

[untold niche]

genuinely if you are not aiming for BPs there are so much better weapons to get
esp for vet, i think dclaw would be way better

[halcyon gust]

The big enemies as Psyker I tend to be worred about in melee range is Ragers and muties

[untold niche]

then get dclaw

or the new shock maul

[hardy raft]

you kinda want unarmored if you care to oneshow lower enemies, even bruisers kinda struggle

[broken carbon]

the shock maul just does everything

it’s nice

[hardy raft]

i gues syou can warp syphon

[haughty star]

ehh dclaw is kinda underwhelming on psyker

like

it's okay

[broken carbon]

how

unless they’re using smite

[untold niche]

theres no reason to invest in rashad on psyker if your main goal is to end ragers and muties

[hardy raft]

perk is good, just upgrade unarmored

[untold niche]

i said vet :v

[hardy raft]

and then obv change shred into headtaker

[broken carbon]

then they will usually kill what they attack

[haughty star]

this is psyker chat

[untold niche]

he said the weapon would be good on his vet

[halcyon gust]

Replaced unarmored for Maniac and Headtaker for shred

[untold niche]

and regardless i did mention psyker here ^

[hardy raft]

looks good

just check if you cant kill bruisers n shit easily

and switch back to unarmored if needed

[broken carbon]

sandwillow

[hardy raft]

tne answer to me using it was zarona + assail

psyker is still quite floppy but with gaze you move turbo

[haughty star]

i really enjoy assail now lol

[halcyon gust]

Once I get head taker going. Dreg brusiers drop in a single swing, but barely one tap on Scab version

Unless I crit which then is a 1 tap

[haughty star]

i use assail with soulstealer to beef up my toughness pool constantly. psyker is very floppy but also very tanky soomehow at the same time

[hardy raft]

scab ones require unarmored

which is why i recommend just sticking to unarmored flak

maniac is p good cause ragers

[halcyon gust]

If I get peril going then it is a one tap

[hardy raft]

ragers are fucked rn but you really cant afford it when scab bruisers are still more common

good for now then

i think i just used DD stacks

+gaze

to onetap

its suprisingly good but you swing waaaay too slow

you can feel it

[halcyon gust]

Gonna be a few games to get used to it since I'm used to the illisi

[haughty star]

illisi is V strong for what it does.

[hardy raft]

give illisi without special to zealot

and they probably break the game with it still

i do wish force swords were shared but only the psyker gets to do some knack with it like laspistol does

soudns fun

[untold niche]

stop praising illisi, i dont want a nerf ;-;

[hardy raft]

but it has some specific blessings so i get why they cant do it

like i dont imaigne how'd deflector work on normal operatives

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker laspistol is the best example of a weapon in this game

[halcyon gust]

Dreg ragers is 3 taps to the head and 4 taps to the body
Mutie is 2 taps to the head and 3 taps to the body

I like this ax

Right I keep forgetting I have this sword

My nice low ass damage roll emperor gift

[haughty star]

lmao

if it makes you feel any better the loadout on its pretty scuffed too

[halcyon gust]

It's complete and utter shit which is typical

But hey it is funny and that is the reason why I didn't tell it back to Melk so he can try to sell it to some poor Smuck

[zinc phoenix]

😱 Deimos is shit, surge smite is garage and trauma is awful 😮‍💨

Ok I think I’m safe

[potent echo]

hell map

"Chunk 4 - Relay Station TRS-150"

[broken carbon]

so man boxes

[thin finch]

Done

[ionic oasis]

Was playing around with a Gunker build and I feel like I underestimated how good Soulstealer (7.5% toughness on warp attack kill) is with Illisi. Special attack + heavy a horde = refill half your toughness. Triggers on soulblaze kills too

Here's the build if folks are interested, just had a great Auric Damnation match with it.
🎇 Soulblaze Gunker 🎇
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c87c20c-9f53-4529-8623-e30231446ed8/soulblaze-gunker-2

[upper sun]

how much plasteel is one (1x Mionix Naos Pro Mouse) worth

[upper sun]

its ok but theres functionally zero reason to take BB without the upgrade and with gaze

[ionic oriole]

Man cancelling bolt pistol bash into firing it looks so cool I wish the shots lined up

[upper sun]

man

I gave up on bolt pistol

[tawny pebble]

nothing like a team of all veterans to remind me how slow I am lol

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1260387568042905720/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.07.10_-_03.08.51.02.png?ex=66966325&is=669511a5&hm=89b1d1271456dec4e4166c080eafd022804fad3289195af6225f0c50dc4b3ddb&

[ionic oriole]

Might be to deal with crushers? Illisi has a hard time with that and unless you can’t use wildfire with assail

[upper sun]

like cmon what more can you fucking want?

if i HAVE to get all t4s on a gun to make it usable i dont want it

[ionic oriole]

I use critical weak spot to help with this

Also if you had like 1 or 2 disrupt destiny stacks this would kill

[upper sun]

man id unironically rather play surge with DD

[ionic oriole]

The rework makes it so much fun to use

[upper sun]

weird ass ADSing massive recoil and mid damage

[ionic oasis]

it's just to get the right talent nodes, I only use it against snipers

basically use Scrier's Gaze on cooldown anyway

[upper sun]

yeah thats fair i guess

assail can deal with snipers for a lot cheaper tho

[ionic oriole]

You can’t pick wildfire with assail this is a soulblaze build

[upper sun]

I mean

just dont pick wildfire :3

[ionic oriole]

Yeah I ten to just use it for quick swapping I just treat like the revolver but without needing to ads

[upper sun]

just hearing that hurts my fingers

[ionic oriole]

Bruh you just press q then left click huh

[upper sun]

boltpistol isnt worth all that effort Ill just wait till space marines 2 comes out to play a bolter

[upper sun]

no ring finger stays on A

[ionic oriole]

Then just bind swap weapon to side mouse button

But I do have a hard time hiting weak spots sometimes so I’ve just found the newer laspistol variant to be my go to

It has both quick swapping and sustain

With scriers gaze and disrupt destiny it oneshot headshots most enemies

[buoyant maple]

Wildfire is really bad tho

[ionic oriole]

I never said it wasn’t, the build is a silly crit wizard souldblaze Elisi build

[buoyant maple]

Ah

[ionic oriole]

I know wildfire is bad it’s just really funny when you mow through a horde and the next horde lights itself on fire running through all the burning corpses

[ionic oasis]

yeah basically lol. I just wanted a fiery space wizard 🔥 🧙‍♂️

[ionic oriole]

You can get purgatus levels of soulblaze with crit ilisi. Not that it’s good but it’s really fun

[upper sun]

thats scanner tho

[ionic oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/beric-got-gameofthrones-sword-fire-gif-13766681

[upper sun]

i NEED foot peddles

NOW

[ionic oriole]

I’ve taken a similar build into auric maelstrom it works fine. There’s certainly better options but having the high kill count voiceline play when I’m just getting from point a to b just due to corpses spreading soulblaze will never get old

Again it’s not optimal it’s just really funny

Only downside is no assail 💔

Assail is so nice on gun psyker I use it to keep my ammo count high I almost never find myself running out of ammo even when playing with my friend who likes to dump ammo into random melee trash units

[ionic oasis]

yeah I just hate using assail with Scrier's Gaze because it feels like I have too much peril every time I want to activate it. I've tried with Empowered Psionics to reduce the cost of assail but eh

it's great with shield or shriek tho

[ionic oriole]

Oh I think that’s a case of using it too much. I tend to only use like 3 or 4 at a time and don’t run the recharge speed perk

[ionic oasis]

that's fair. what capstone do you like in that build?

[ionic oriole]

Disrupt destiny

It’s so good because of the multiplicative damage with scriers

The other nice part about assail there is the alt fire for assail targets heads so it’s an ammo efficient way to build DD stacks

[ionic oasis]

agreed. hmm, maybe I just need to rein in assail usage... it's definitely better against hordes

true. yeah I wanted to run Dueling Sword with gaze/DD because of the fast crits and high finesse but ended up switching to Illisi to handle hordes better. and to regain toughness with Soulstealer like I mentioned

I could probably get away with dueling sword if I had better positioning lol

[ionic oriole]

Funnily enough I think dueling sword has decent enough horde clear

I run rampage on it for that reason

Its all about trying to funnel enemies and keeping just enough range

[ionic oasis]

which mark of sword? I think i was using a MK IV and I kept getting overwhelmed

[ionic oriole]

I don’t remember srry

Not at my computer atm srry

Lemme look it up see if the picture matches

I think it’s the IV

[ionic oasis]

ah actually I was using the Mk II. Because it has that vanguard H2 but that wasn't helping much

[ionic oriole]

The thing that helped me out was running movement speed on scriers gaze. The backpedaling boost is nice

[marble crater]

Dueling Sword has good horde clear if you use sciers, otherwise it's meh

[ionic oriole]

Ye

[upper sun]

speaking of ds4

[ionic oriole]

So I analyze when is a good time for scriers and if I think a horde is light enough I’ll just assail to save my scriers for later

[upper sun]

has anyone checked if rampage clears any better than shred

because i kinda feel like theyre roughly equal 30% extra damage doesnt feel like much on lmb spam when you get more crits

[jovial juniper]

Maybe if you check how much cleave you get from Rampage

[ionic oriole]

I feel like it doesn’t need shred and riposte tbh it’s too much crit chance

[upper sun]

its just damage not power tho

[upper galleon]

no such thing

until you hit cap

[upper sun]

do you get any extra cleave?

[upper galleon]

rampage tooltip lies

it gives power

not damage

[upper sun]

what

fucking

im so done with tooltips 😠

[upper galleon]

but anyways, shred is generally considered better because dueling sword has massive finesse ratio

[ionic oriole]

I know but I mean that crit stacking after a certain point has diminishing returns

[upper galleon]

rampage might have slightly better horde clear, but you just don't use it for horde clear, you use a staff or blitz for that instead

[upper galleon]

no

crit chance is additive, no DR

[ionic oriole]

I know

[upper galleon]

apparently you don't xd, shred+uncanny is the standard iirc, riposte or precog are also really good

[ionic oriole]

If a weapon has 5% crit chance and increase it by 5%, you’ve doubled its crit chance, but going from 50 to 55 is only a 1.1x increase

That’s what I mean

Increasing crit is less significant the more crit you have

[upper galleon]

well, it's pointless tbh, since the game does have real diminishing returns and multiplicative stats

and you are wrong about 1.1x increase, in crit chance sure

but the average dps boost stays the same

Finesse
Critical and Weakspot Power: [1.88 - 2.63]

considering we are stuck at 80% mod scores, i'll give you, 240% damage on crits

[spice veldt]

on the other hand, you'll practically have 17.5% crit chance (7.5 base, 5 grey node, 5 crit aura) or 22.5% if you decide to run a crit chance perk, so I could twist the argument in my favor by saying that shred or riposte is a ~2x boost in crit chance

[upper galleon]

the dps increase of 5% crit chance, besides overcapping past 100% chance, remains constant

[spice veldt]

which is why I do not look at relative improvements in crit chance at all

[ionic oriole]

Yeah I do run riposte. I’m saying that I think shred and risposte is unessisary and I would rather use rampage instead of shred

[upper galleon]

yea relative improvement in weapons usually mean oppurtunity cost, even if you focus on damage, you would want precog over rampage

[spice veldt]

oh you mean stacking them both

[ionic oriole]

The only thing I’m claiming is I think riposte and shred combined is unessicary

[upper galleon]

you always take uncanny imo, simply too good of a blessing and lets you handle crusher packs

[ionic oriole]

Yes

[spice veldt]

yeah I would never do that optimally

[upper galleon]

actually you and arco

with how crit adms work

if uncanny is removed

shred+ riposte could be the best build

[spice veldt]

duelling sword doesn't get any boosted crit arms, unfortunately

not even on flak

[upper galleon]

or one of those+ precog

oh damn

it doesn't?

that's dumb

[spice veldt]

well, it is normal

[ionic oriole]

Uncanny doesn’t do much for me I two shot crushers anyways so the just die before I can stack it in the first place

[spice veldt]

surely there is another crusher though, since it is a buff on you

[upper galleon]

there is the mythical crusher oneshot that needs uncanny

[spice veldt]

in addition, since duellies don't have >1x adms, uncanny is at least a 1.25x damage in increase on everything that's not unarmored or infested

[upper galleon]

requires perfect mod score distribution, perfect perks, precog uncanny, and boosting the fuck talents

[upper galleon]

this

[spice veldt]

I'm going to murder this fucking autocorrect

[upper galleon]

tho the mythical crusher oneshot is more of a hypothetical, but it might be easier to reach post crafting and itemization rework

[scarlet timber]

Is ThIs GoOd gUyS?

[upper galleon]

tbh i wouldn't go crit chance perk

[spice veldt]

the scriers DD ds4 crit one shot 😎

[upper galleon]

i know i know it's +1 stack when you crit

[buoyant maple]

Swap Crit chance to smth else

[upper galleon]

but the oppurtunity cost vs 25% to unyielding, maniac, or even unarmored is better

[scarlet timber]

pygex says crit chance though

[halcyon gust]

Burn baby burn

[scarlet timber]

also wtf why cant i have this on my vet 😦

[upper galleon]

warp nexus+ talents already give 100% uptime of on crit talents like EE and PT

[upper galleon]

pygex is wrong on this one specific issue

[scarlet timber]

i see thx

[halcyon gust]

Wish we can transfer weapons to other classes that can use them

[upper galleon]

5% crit chance perk with 76% burn and your other sources of crit, basically means you only hit max stacks 3%~faster assuming an enemy lives that long

hence why I am also against scrier's purge, venting flames can go over the cap and 20% crit chance is not worth it imo

[scarlet timber]

ehm you mean 77?

im pretty sure 15 stack is at 77?

[upper galleon]

as always since this opinion is controversial, i will accept any video or other hard evidence otherwise, but I'm going to trust the person who did the math once

[upper galleon]

is flamer and purge burn BP one point off?

that's so fucking weird

[spice veldt]

it's also 76% for purg

[upper galleon]

okay so fatshark isn't driving me crazy (as much)

but burn is also the rate of applying stacks,

[spice veldt]

(i lied the ds4 heavies do have >1x adms on flak, so uncanny is a 1.23x increase)

[lyric burrow]

pen probably isnt helpiung

iirc its giving a bigger boost than intended

unless your just taking that straight from code i dont remember DS ADMs off the top of my head

[spice veldt]

nah i took the numbers from the calculator

[upper galleon]

at minimum, 23% (Flak)/25% damage to all armor types besides unarmored and infested is pretty pog

having it be even more useful if your adm is below 1x

[spice veldt]

in my mind, i labelled the ds4 as having "normal" adms so just initially just assumed that it would have 100% adms at most

[upper galleon]

what's it's weakest adm? carapace or unyielding

[spice veldt]

carapace yeah

uncanny is a 1.62x improvement

and ds4 heavies do 100% to maniac and unyielding

[lyric burrow]

very sane blessing

[spice veldt]

really makes you think

they kept the old uncanny numbers and buffed rending (additive and has an effect past 100% adms for 4 armour types)
this would never have consequences at all

[upper sun]

This has zero consequences I am illiterate and i put shred uncanny on everything that doesnt have uncanny slaughterer

[lunar hollow]

old multiplicative rending that could reduce your damage

[stiff falcon]

Uncanny precog

[lunar hollow]

we must return to tradition

[spice veldt]

so true

[lunar hollow]

the old days of unpushable poxbursters

and if you pushed them they didnt deal any infested damage at all

so the other bursters were just staggered

[spice veldt]

:)

[upper sun]

unpushable dogs
just wait for them to pounce and let a buddy kill them before you seperate

[stiff falcon]

Let me run this shit on my zealot FatShark

With the ds4

Totally balanced

[halcyon gust]

Has the final 3 kills in sight

But a Zealot Had to kill steal them

[wanton sandal]

really feel like this should proc on specialists 😭

[wanton sandal]

many such cases unfortuantely

[halcyon gust]

100% Yes

Sorry for the ping

[wanton sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987627219973210124/1238023666202050620/GIF_1932765774.gif

[upper sun]

does deadly accurate also do what it says?

[rich spindle]

The 3 wound smite psyker that raged at me in voice while I clutched for 5 minutes is still living rent free in my head

[halcyon gust]

Nice

Let me guess

Died within the first wave of enemies

Also got this

[rich spindle]

Basically

[halcyon gust]

Didn't get screwed over by a bulkwark wall or Crushers

[spice veldt]

yeah, it is an honest good boy blessing that does not lie

[rich spindle]

Wouldnt this be 100% uptime on dog waves lol

[wanton sandal]

like, 3 woudn curios?

[rich spindle]

1 on damnation

[upper sun]

ah okay less bad

but still

how the fuck do you play the game with wounds you have so little toughness and hp with wounds

[wanton sandal]

i feel called out bc i use a wound curio opn smite lol

[rich spindle]

The part that keeps me up at night is that he was mad at me for kiting and doing loops

[upper sun]

only class id unironically run a wound curio on is vet since some builds let you get +50 toughness

[rich spindle]

I simply cannot fathom the mindset to get mad at that

[halcyon gust]

Early on. I get having a extra wound to give you a better "Buffer" to mistakes when you first dip into Heresy and Damnation

[upper sun]

i would have quit the game near the respawn point

[wanton sandal]

even then, sometimes its unavoidable

[upper sun]

i thought about it once when i clutched a game with 3 revolver vets that STOLE ALL THE FUCKING AMMO AND TRIPPLE TAPPED AMMO CRATES

[rich spindle]

I would too but I named myself iHateAuricQuitters

[wanton sandal]

i like a wound to fall back on if i getoverwhelmed and my team isnt nearby

[wanton sandal]

based

[rich spindle]

You should try 2 wounds

[upper sun]

if i die its on me

[rich spindle]

You die less with more health

[upper sun]

i feel ashamed running psyker with wounds

[halcyon gust]

[spice veldt]

just type "HNNNNNNNNNNNNG" in chat every time you blow up

[halcyon gust]

One of my vet builds

[upper sun]

i type psyker moment

[rich spindle]

I say "I made a mistake" in voice

And then pop

[halcyon gust]

SON OF A BIT---- Pop

[spice veldt]

the prior events of my life have culminated into this cirumstance

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/1fqauz

this is what arco does

[spice veldt]

go AWAY

[upper sun]

have a full paragraph on copy paste reminiscing your life's choices

[rich spindle]

Someone needs to make that a mod

Automated Pop copypasta

[upper sun]

NO NONONONO NOT NOW I STILL HAVENT FINISHED MY SHIP IN A BOTTLE I HAVENT LIVED I HAVENT SEEN TERRA ,I HAVENT....(28 lines)

[thin finch]

the three last Psyker penance

Needle, EP and the monstrum maleum stuff

[upper sun]

wanna do monster rn?

i just logged in to buy something

[halcyon gust]

Need to scratch Monster off as well

[upper sun]

one of you invite me

[halcyon gust]

Currently loading back in game

[upper sun]

silo cluster t4 is up should be fine

might be a bad time game kicked me from mourning star to char select

i think fatshark forgot to pay rent

[thin finch]

will have to pull out my purgatus BB build then

[halcyon gust]

Right

The stupid fatshark code crashes my fucking game

[upper sun]

LETS DO IT ANYWAYS

[thin finch]

it's gone

when did I remoev it ?

[upper sun]

try this

[thin finch]

almost the same except I went with the 7.5% damage againt elite

[upper sun]

are you dagg?

nvm that was an ogryn

[thin finch]

I am Bobby

[upper sun]

disgusting ds4

ur banned

[thin finch]

I like it with my double wall to poke Mutie

[upper sun]

bruh that was unlucky

[thin finch]

I was bad mostly

[upper sun]

i got grabbed while i was ulting

vigil station low intensity is up

lets try that

tho that mission gets BoN a lot

@halcyon gustyour turn

[thin finch]

Thanks Blahaj fren

[upper sun]

no worries

[halcyon gust]

Let me wake up Darktid

Should be a few moments

[thin finch]

Have you done the Wakening rite ?

[halcyon gust]

I did

And I'm in game

[upper sun]

Have you recited the 89 litanies of not crashing?

[halcyon gust]

I won't crash as I don't attempt the shark friend code

[thin finch]

i have to grab a purchase

brb good luck for your monster hunting

[upper sun]

F

[lethal lagoon]

When other psykers blow up(cause I obviously never do) I tell them "It's okay, it happens to men of all ages"

[halcyon gust]

Holy shit the lag

[upper sun]

lmao

where do you live the moon?

[halcyon gust]

Eastern United stats

Where the krak you live

On mars

[upper sun]

eu region

[halcyon gust]

Even EU regions I get around 130-140 Ping roughly~

And I have pretty good internet on my end

[upper sun]

lemme try switching my region

north america east yeah?

[halcyon gust]

Yeah

[upper sun]

relay station is up rn

its pretty good with early bosses

[halcyon gust]

Let's do it

In game again

[upper sun]

wait that excise vault

[halcyon gust]

Maybe we get a early DH

[upper sun]

we can try i have shield

[halcyon gust]

Thanks Mate

[upper sun]

no problem

[halcyon gust]

Have a shark size 🍪

[upper sun]

kinda funny that we have to commit suicide to get weekly progression on missions we quit lmao

[halcyon gust]

Plasteel is Plasteel

[upper sun]

peak performance

[stone totem]

"I LET YOU SOLO"

[halcyon gust]

Just need handful of scab kills and 2 games where players don't die to stupid reasons and weekly is done with Psyker

[thin finch]

the long lost brother of this dude

[upper sun]

now just gotta download shirtlessmod_freeroblox_rat.zip.exe

[jovial juniper]

Good, it's an .exe so it auto installs

[upper sun]

Chat is this REAL?

[marble crater]

Roll it

[upper sun]

starting the game rn

real

I can finally replace my groaners staff

[marble crater]

Congrats

[upper sun]

it goes hard ngl

bruh why does brainburst at zero peril need 16 damage to one shot a hound

[lunar hollow]

it used to never one shot

[upper sun]

[lunar hollow]

if u ask arcotash he will tell u it shouldnt one shot hounds ever

[jovial juniper]

I've been saving a recon Mk2 and now they are usable

[upper sun]

bro hates fun smh

besides that usuing melee is unironically better for dealing with dogs unless they're on someone far away

[spice veldt]

👁️ 👁️

[rigid sky]

Opportunistic one-shots while they're running off also good though

[tired estuary]

no thanks I'd rather ammo dump on them to repeatedly knock them away from somebody trying to bonk them once

[upper sun]

personally id rather play hot potato with the dog while push spamming it

[stone totem]

Taking mind flayer to be able to one shot dogs at zero peril

[upper sun]

🤔

🤔

does force push proc flayer?

it does 1 damage

[thin finch]

Ok the red drug is strong uh

[jovial juniper]

Not sure about force push, but the knife punch does