psyker-class

[wraith fable]

I hate my veteran.

[eager token]

director is on some shit today dude this was just hi int not even histg

[lethal lagoon]

hi int is about the same as hi stg, no?

[wind spruce]

I mean, why would you think she's a vet main?

[lethal lagoon]

As long as it's on the auric board.

[eager token]

i figured histg had way more specials and elites

this was just regular damnation

[wraith fable]

Oh, whoops. That was my ogryn brain. Zealot main.

[lethal lagoon]

I think people forget that Hi int was supposed to be hard

[wraith fable]

Is what I meant.

[eager token]

[wind spruce]

Ah right

[lethal lagoon]

I still remember on release how crazy 5s were to pub.

Now it's

[wraith fable]

I feel like any time I see a knife zealot I'm about to die and watch them solo the map or they get killed repeatedly.

[lethal lagoon]

There's a 97.3, repeating of course, chance that they run ahead, get netted, blame you, and then leave.

[eager token]

i get netted on purpose for the challenge

[lethal lagoon]

That's a good way of being mentally challenged for sure.

[eager token]

[wind spruce]

I don't need help with that

[wraith fable]

I do. That's why I have an alcohol addiction.

[lyric burrow]

there was a time

although i was also bad so harder to tell

[lethal lagoon]

I never did pre-mades on release, also didn't have scoreboard until I was good enough to basically always be 1st.

So I really don't know.

[lyric burrow]

i did pubs for the first like 700-800 hours mainly id say

[lethal lagoon]

In my memory, ranged mobs were so much bigger of a threat.

[lyric burrow]

last 800 have been with friends much more

[lethal lagoon]

And then when I came back just before the update, they were meh.

[wind spruce]

"Time doesn't exist"

• Atlas, December 2023, every 5.3s (repeating, of course)

[lyric burrow]

ranged units did do more before yeah

[lethal lagoon]

It doesn't!

There is only speed

[wraith fable]

I heard the patch they just undid was nothing compared to release.

[lethal lagoon]

Speed of decay, speed entrophy.

[wind spruce]

How quickly can you fill up a bar?

Depends if your mums there

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not sure what you mean, do you mean patch 13?

Yeah the game was way easier after patch 13(talent tree rework)

[lyric burrow]

yeah before shooters were a real threat and we had less options to deal with

your good guns were autopistol and bolter

[lethal lagoon]

OH, you mean the recent shooter buff

[analog agate]

Yeah, pre patch 13 darktide is harder. Even though it didn’t throw nearly as much shit at you.

[wraith fable]

Yeah.

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, ranged mobs were still more of a threat on release.

[lyric burrow]

psykers best melee was
Combat axe
huge gap
obscurus :(

[lethal lagoon]

It was so bad, that people thought you HAD to run sheild on Ogryn.

Like there was no other option

[lyric burrow]

illisi and deimos when they dropped

[wind spruce]

We had no toughness regen then, too

[lethal lagoon]

That was of course bait, but that's what a lot of people thought

[lyric burrow]

i used pre patch void soley for shooters

[wraith fable]

But my Bully Club Mark IIIa...

[lethal lagoon]

Nope, kicked.

[wind spruce]

I loved pre-patch void, it got so much flak though

[lyric burrow]

same it was my most used staff

[lethal lagoon]

I loved pre-patch void, it made me feel like a mage god. And then I did t5 and was like "WTF is this staff"

And never used it again till the buff.

[wind spruce]

I had an epic rapid fire macro for it

[lyric burrow]

it was also nice cause i wasnt comfortable in melee yet and i got range still

however its cleave was based on uh

server ping

usually it was like 6

or not 6 cleave

you could kill 6 poxwalkers

[lethal lagoon]

All of void's BPs in my opinion were perfect for t4 and fell off super hard on t5 on release.

It felt bad to use

[lyric burrow]

it was made a REALLY loud noise when you hit heads and it was funny

gone now

[lethal lagoon]

Void made you deaf, surge made you blind

That surge bug was unironically wild.

[lyric burrow]

the smite one?

or are you talking from before

[lethal lagoon]

release surge bug

It straight up cause eye damage

It wasn't exactly on release

maybe like a few weeks after, Random update just completely fucked up surge.

Even now it's still kinda brutal in foggy areas.

[lyric burrow]

i may have missed that one, i played a little after release but not much

i didnt get really into the game until like feb

2023

maybe late Jan

so i saw most of the boomer DT stuff but not all of it

i do remember i had the ogryn beta helmet on vet for as long as FS allowed me

[wind spruce]

That noise was amazing

[lyric burrow]

i liked it more than the new one

it felt like i was obliterating those guys

the new one makes more sense

but man it was like the helmets shattered

[wind spruce]

Amazingly visceral

Man ima try find a video of it

[supple dock]

the one game with skudi I've had was fucking hilarious

3 of us fell off the ledge during the same period of time to entirely different circumstances

[lyric burrow]

im glad i experienced old DT despite it being a significantly worse game

[supple dock]

we died

[lyric burrow]

i think i played with skudie once back when they were level 2000

or so

[wraith fable]

I had a buddy fall off a platform to the ledge below and I tried to jump down to save him and also fell to my death.

[clear bridge]

Wait- Voidstrike made a better sound hitting heads in the past???

It already sounds so peak tho

Wtf

[barren arch]

so I'm curious as to a talent interaction - does Empowered Psionics amplify the 'free' BB you get from Kinetic Flayer?

[wraith fable]

Do you all run three toughness curios on psyker? I've been doing two toughness one health to prevent me being so squishy. But with edging and having one with the warp I guess three toughness might be better?

[wraith fable]

I don't think so or else it would use a charge?

[wind spruce]

Depends on build, but the most common iterations are 1 health, 1 stam, 1 toughness and 1 health, 2 toughness

[lethal lagoon]

I like three toughness because I play off 50% of the time

And just rush froward

[wind spruce]

I run three toughness on gunker

[lethal lagoon]

See even I type brain off

[wind spruce]

Because I have spare points for toughness nodes, amplifying the benefit

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, I thought that was a comment on mettle

[wind spruce]

The biggest reason to take health is poxbursters

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, if I didn't have spidey sense to counter bugged poxbursters, I don't think I'd run three toughness.

I'd either run 3 HP or just rage quit the game.

Dying to bugs(completely silent poxburster) drives me insane

[wind spruce]

Running +78% health is pretty funny ngl.

It feels so wrong having that much health on psyker

[potent echo]

I just had tzeentch trapper destroy me, kill one but there was another inside, punish for using Agrivolvo 😔

[wraith fable]

I had a crusher I didn't see (inside of a plague ogryn's butthole) swing down and kill three of us in one hit.

[eager token]

open your third eye siblings

[potent echo]

Its clenched

[steel flame]

ya know, i gotta say, if fatshark fixes the boltpistols eratic ads twitching, bleed bolter pistol is the new best sciers gaze gunker weapon

the fact that the bleed isnt based on critting AND hit in an aoe

its an actual straight upgrade to laspistol infernus

bleed is also a way better dot too

and its cap is 16 instead of the lame 12 fire stacks infernus gives

[hardy raft]

aoe as in assail?

[steel flame]

aoe as in the bolter aoe adds bleed to everything in the aoe

[hardy raft]

i dont think thats the case?

was that fixed?

[patent jacinth]

It doesn’t right now

Puncture only works on direct hits

[hardy raft]

if it did everyone 1ould pick it

and itd be p funny on vet

[patent jacinth]

I did hear about puncture having an interaction with assail though

[hardy raft]

pocket 88 rounds of free frag nades

with vet, 108

[patent jacinth]

108 with fully loaded

[hardy raft]

dump buncha rounds into a horde and get a knife and start slashing

get uncanny and melt everyone with uncanny stacks kek

[steel flame]

nvm it must have been an edge case

[hardy raft]

it used to work on beta last i heard

then it was nerfed to oblivion

[steel flame]

still the bleed is fucking nuts with all the damage buffs scriers and high peril give

[wind spruce]

assail applies bleed if you weapon switch midflight

[wind spruce]

What enemies is it even useful against

[hardy raft]

idk most, we use lqcerate knife afterall kek

[wide maple]

One last penance to go for

Gonna need a team for malleus monstrum

[wind spruce]

Kekw

But seriously, knife has lower damage per hit and can cleave. Most targets are going to be dead before the bolt pistol applies a meaningful amount of bleed

So, it might finish a few enemies off if you double body shot, but it's mostly only going to be good against unyielding and maulers

[hardy raft]

bleed acts as a "i dont strictly care for breakpoints" and i think the guy who wrote psyker guide had some interesting breakpoints on psyker with the bleed? not sure if i would pick it tbh

its still quite... unique, so to speak

possibly better than infernus cause it stacks better and is guaranteed

[upper sun]

🧓

[wind spruce]

Still can't believe this was the third bolt pistol I consecrated

@near wyvern the boltgun I've just shown cannot one shot a dreg gunner to the head with six warp charges and the 5% damage node

[upper sun]

thats why you need unarmored instead of maniac

[wind spruce]

I'm testing what pygex said in the Atheneum

[upper sun]

i'm pretty sure the devs never tested it outside of malice things way undertuned

[upper sun]

did you try unarmored yet?

[wind spruce]

No, because he recommends maniac and flak for breakpoints (and he's right). Unarmoured would only help against that one enemy since you one shot all trash

[ornate hamlet]

This is what you want:

[wind spruce]

Is it, though?

[ornate hamlet]

Yup.

[wind spruce]

Mine looks strictly better

[cosmic sigil]

I'd rather have surgical

[ornate hamlet]

The boltgun is too unreliable for using it like a revolver. It's an AOE stagger for people who like to run down enemies with melee (i.e. boltgun is a suppression weapon.)

[wind spruce]

I'm not here trying to say what's best

I'm literally just looking at the atheneum and testing what pygex has said

And, frankly, trying to disprove his whole "warp battery is mandatory" thing

[cosmic sigil]

I have no problem adsing with it tho

[ornate hamlet]

A lot of people say its accuracy because pre and post fire recoil is insane.

[cosmic sigil]

You need 8 warp charges 🤓

[cosmic sigil]

I am a boltgun user so... I wish it was better but I manage

[wind spruce]

I've already found one mistake in the breakpoint table so I'm happy

[cosmic sigil]

The one from Pygex?

[wind spruce]

Yes

It's incorrect regarding dreg gunners

[brazen warren]

bolt pistol rotation I use is ads, shoot, hip fire, repeat

stutter stepping to maintain accuracy

body shots mostly though

[viscid matrix]

Then let @near wyvern know

[wind spruce]

You mean like when I tagged him already?

[wind spruce]

@near wyvern you also state in your section regarding skullcrusher on power mauls that it "requires you to first stagger an enemy and then hit a staggered enemy so the bonus starts from the third hit onwards," but SC stacks are applied on the first hit and the bonus on the second hit (assuming they are still staggered)

[potent echo]

If you have debuff indicator it's very you can see the stacks

[wind spruce]

Indeed

I tested it in game just to see if it wasnt the psykhanium being wonky

[viscid matrix]

I didn’t scroll back to check

[brazen rampart]

What blessings should I want on a surge staff?

I'm assuming warp nexus and warp flurry.

[restive ice]

join us terrifying barrage chads

[marble crater]

Nexus and Flurry, yes

[brazen rampart]

Nice. I have one with both at t3.

Now, perks...

Unarmored maniac?

[untold niche]

whats the est date for crafting update?

[brazen rampart]

After summer... I would say like October/November?

[untold niche]

[brazen rampart]

I'm gonna hold off on tweaking perks until I get an answer back, I don't have the plasteel to experiment...

[strong thicket]

Guys quick question. What do I want on my dueling sword in terms of perk?

[hardy raft]

real talk i wanna use that blessing but idk on where

[marble crater]

Flak and then your choice of Elite/Maniac/Unyielding/Crit Chance
I like Elite

[marble crater]

Maniac and Carapace is what I use, for muties and maulers/crushers

[wind spruce]

maniac, carapace, unyielding, in order of preference

if youre running DD (especially with scriers) you dont really need maniac

[upper sun]

never mention that word around me

i hate seeing it so fucking much

[hardy raft]

i wanna use it tbh

seems fun

[upper sun]

no

banned

i hope the dev who made that blessing has his pillows always be soggy

[hardy raft]

why it stuns every shooter around aaid vicinity

[upper sun]

and warm both in the summer and winter

[hardy raft]

for like 1 nanosecond

[upper sun]

everything already stuns everything

[hardy raft]

no it doesnt

point towards autopistol

[upper sun]

autopistol isnt a real weapon

[hardy raft]

tbh powderburn is a better terrifying barrage if i ever saw one

[upper sun]

ye

[hardy raft]

i wish powderburn was actually on a weapon that had supression

like shotguns

[upper sun]

melks a realone i got that blessing despite never having used an auto pistol once

[hardy raft]

i like the concept

[upper sun]

i cant wait to use it when its cheap to build

[hardy raft]

too bad even with innate buffs its supression never reaches desired out omes

[upper sun]

itll prolly get buffed soon

[hardy raft]

i have a terrifying barrage+powderburn build

[upper sun]

its like the only remaining meh weapon

[hardy raft]

the gun or the blessing
hope gun does

[upper sun]

the gun

[hardy raft]

true the bolter did get buffed

[upper sun]

and bolter wasnt even that bad

[hardy raft]

and since boltpistol has its niche autopistol is still the kekiest weapon

[upper sun]

idk who it even works on

zealot dance of death?

[hardy raft]

it works on anything really

just not on flaks

melts maniacs

[upper sun]

[upper sun]

geee as if that wasnt 90% of the game

[hardy raft]

rager/trapper just dies

[hardy raft]

well it works on the uh

catachan swords

[upper sun]

im not a big declaw guy tbh

i rolled like 2 then gave up

[hardy raft]

why

probably the modt fun weapon

[upper sun]

idk they were just okay for me

i have ds4 illisi and deimos for psyker

[hardy raft]

you dont like parries?

[upper sun]

for zealot i have evi15 crusher and hammer

[upper sun]

yeah but im not used to letting enemies attack

feels like a bad habbit to have

i see overhead i dodge or if im ongryn is tagger

stagger

i dont wanna pick up a weapon thatll make me play everything else worse

ill try them again after crafting tbh

yeah theyre just BEGGING to be rolled

[hardy raft]

thays a

1/4

already

too bad hadron

🤡

[upper sun]

ye

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1258563216917663744/1366_2000.jpg?ex=6689d155&is=66887fd5&hm=87cae63cae160f6b9804beead9fdb8b879e11c164878a36d478269bf577478ac&

i have so much shit thats BEGGING for the crafting update

[hardy raft]

that already looks bricked kek

0/2

kek

[upper sun]

yup

nice base tho

[wind spruce]

Seeing kek makes me hnng

[hardy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-half-life2-gman-gif-25087297

[brazen rampart]

Only 29 more missions and all my psyker penances are complete.

[upper sun]

what is taking this long

[brazen rampart]

?

Just lifeleech.

Yknow, the "complete missions" penance.

I have the 4th and 5th tiers left and then I'm done with psyker.

[upper sun]

ah

i thought playing auric counted for all tiers

[brazen rampart]

No, no. That's not the "complete mission types" penance.

It's just "complete missions."

I already have the mission types one done.

[upper sun]

Idk what penance you are talking about but i wish you a speedy resolve

[brazen rampart]

The one you're thinking of is touch the void.

The one I still need to do is lifeleech.

It's literally just "complete missions" to finish it.

I'm at 71/100 on it atm.

[upper sun]

ah

its just do missions

you never played psyker before huh

[brazen rampart]

No I played the hell out of psyker before the penance rework.

I had most of my penances already done.

[upper sun]

🤔

i dont remember having to do it

[brazen rampart]

I just main zealout now.

You can also complete penances without completing a mission.

And... I used to not be too good at this game.

[wind spruce]

Just did melee maelstrom with Rat and another really good psyker... and goddamn it multiple good psykers really suck the fun out of that modifier

[devout sluice]

This is the psyker chat

[upper sun]

no its psyker and zealot chat

zealot chat is for other games

[devout sluice]

And driptide chat is for veterans... got it

[wind spruce]

Trivialising melee only maelstrom with three psykers: https://youtu.be/z4uczELq-n0

[plucky flax]

Only need 1 psyker with blaze trauma to make that modifier into a breeze.

[wind spruce]

That's why I bring melee psyker

[marble crater]

The video says GUN, you are lying to your viewers

[wind spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[dense tapir]

I don't know what to think about this

[upper sun]

imagine that thing as a deimos

[dense tapir]

I KNOW

I AM SAD RN

[upper sun]

iktfb

i have one very similar

[marble crater]

Don't worry, update will fix it

[upper sun]

so tru so tru huffs copium

"I dont know if this issue still happens or not because i got better"

chad bug report ^

[plucky flax]

Too high warp resistance

[upper sun]

its not a deimos you can schtroke it

[plucky flax]

Yeah even still. It'd go up to slow.

[dense tapir]

Not for how i use it

[plucky flax]

Okay fair.

[upper sun]

eh its not a bad idea to have one of each

[plucky flax]

I'm just saying my piece.

[dense tapir]

Yeah dw

[plucky flax]

I like 50 to 60 ish. Give around 15% peril per special.

So I can get creeping flames out much faster.

[upper sun]

your piece has caused me massive emotional damage and i am going to take 3 aspirins and die

[plucky flax]

Hey not everyone play like top 1%er.

[upper sun]

technically were all 1% since there's no offical scoreboard

[plucky flax]

I have actual proof. A random guy told me in a game.

[upper sun]

one guy told me i was good once 😭

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

its because i kept precharging BB and cucking an ogryn out of rock kills

barrel movetech OP

[rich jolt]

Nice aim on the trapper

[upper sun]

t-thanks

(thats why i dont play knives)

[rich jolt]

Knives feel impossible to use on controller

The fact its bound to arrows and throws immediately makes me want to yank my hair out

[upper sun]

ye also picking knives would let me save a point on that build

arrows?

its the same as grenades

[rich jolt]

Yeah

But grenades don't throw immediately

It wouldn't be an issue if i could take one out and then aim

[upper sun]

yeah whats even worse is rocks

underhand is two clicks

overhand is click and release

[rich jolt]

I personally never had an issue with rocks

They can be finicky but they feel fine to use

[upper sun]

yeah theyre nice but i never underhand them

[plucky flax]

Controller player

[feral verge]

Cannot fathom playing this game on controller

[rich jolt]

Silence computer players

[feral verge]

I would stay in malice if I had to use my controller

[rich jolt]

Your kind would combust into flames if you picked up a controller

[feral verge]

I've tried to play with a controller as a joke

It was horrible

[rich jolt]

I can confidently do damnation and am pretty good at auric damnation

I am yet to conquer auric maelstrom

[marble crater]

D pad

[marble crater]

Back paddles for extra button to remap are so nice for Darktide

[rich jolt]

Pro controller for series x is dogshit

Unfortunately

Might get one of those paddle extensions but idk if they even work

[marble crater]

Gamesir G7 SE is what I use, I love it

[karmic finch]

the funny thing is, the best platform for controller is PC.

[upper sun]

[karmic finch]

steam input is the GOAT for controller customisation

and consoles don't even come close

I can use any controller, I can rebind any button to anything I want, I can add multiple inputs for long press, double press, etc etc

action layers, mode shifts, mouse regions

console players don't know what true controller gameplay is

[rich jolt]

You pick it up and you press buttons

[karmic finch]

aiming with gyro

[rich jolt]

Crawl back to your hole, with your fancy button remaps and rgb keyboards

[upper sun]

my cave will never be fancy until i get input pedals for quelling

[rich jolt]

Id honestly love a foot peddle for mic toggle

[upper sun]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61OnxxnsAtL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

quell, in game push to talk, discord push to talk

imagine

[rich jolt]

The dream set up

[upper sun]

nah imagine trying to drive after playing for an entire weekend lmao

[karmic finch]

that's my current choices lol

[upper sun]

missing the pedals fr fr

[karmic finch]

i know right

[hardy raft]

i did

i tried

and uh

it wrecked me

i used smite psyker

and i kept dying

[upper sun]

its true

[rich jolt]

Weak

[upper sun]

i played battlefield on a friends ps4 once

[hardy raft]

[minos prime]

[upper sun]

i died instantly

[rich jolt]

I was born by the controller, raised by it

[karmic finch]

I have tried using controller on darktide but didn't like it, mostly due to the slide teck stuff, didn't want to get used to all that again

[rich jolt]

JUDGEMENT

[karmic finch]

I use my controller for path of exile and games like that though

[rich jolt]

THY END IS NOW

[upper sun]

YOUR DEATH IS OFFERING

YOUR DAMNATION ETERNAL

[rich jolt]

YOUR BITCHS NONE

[upper sun]

unironically the best line of the game

[rich jolt]

YOUR SWAG NON EXISTENT

[karmic finch]

i'm sorry "BRAIN FIRE, BRAIN FIRE!!!!"

[upper sun]

nah WRONG

[feral verge]

green fire

[karmic finch]

or "BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR, SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE"

[upper sun]

how is de-ferant?

[marble crater]

Starting to sound like being able to play well with a controller is quite the flex

[upper sun]

its like being left handed

id imagine picking up a keyboard and mouse would be easier for you than me picking up a controller for a shooter tbh

[marble crater]

Not sure, I don't play anything with mouse and keyboard

[feral verge]

playing with controller will always be L

a controller user has to go 120% just to match a pc player going 50%

biggest L

[upper sun]

eh i dunno i've seen a lot of good xbox players the issue is the entire platform is so accessible now you dont get any of the real no lifers

[plucky flax]

Xbox players make it easier to get that highlight reel clutch

[stiff falcon]

Yessir

Ez clutch today

All 3 went down at the end of consignment yard

Just enough map knowledge and stabby stabby and it’s done

[upper sun]

new mission+shooter buffs got me the last clutch i had

also the leave no man behind penance finally 🙏

[stiff falcon]

imagine not having all penances completed smh

[upper sun]

ALL?

[upper sun]

real

i have around 4650?

[pine brook]

Question about overpowering souls...
Who is elite?

[marble crater]

Shotgunners, Gunners, Ragers, Maulers, all Ogryns

[pine brook]

Hmmm....

[rich jolt]

(Except plague ogryns)

[pine brook]

I reading build with smite... isnt Bio-Lodestone is better with Smite than Overpowering soul? You gain stucks of emproved psionics when YOU kill, and smite does weak damage to elites...

[marble crater]

Getting it from elites is a 100% chance and you don't have to kill them with Smite

And EP Smite with Shriek deals enough damage to kill ragers

[upper sun]

elites are the guys that dont impede your moment or disrput your team cohesion (they just kill you)

flamers, snipers, dogs, muties, trappers, bombers are specialists (they go to school for that)

[marble crater]

They are also the guys who can already patrol and walk around the map, specials always need to spawn first and won't be waiting around the corner for you

[potent echo]

Elites are the enemies that don't make the obnoxious spawning sounds

[wind wadi]

snipers being a notable exception. snipers are specials but dont make a spawning noise

all of the specials are standing in a single group in the meat grinder

[upper sun]

BURRRRR JIGGLE JIGGLE JIGGLE i will stand in one place and do zero damage who am i?

[wind wadi]

elites are ragers, maulers, gunners, and the big boys

and shotgunners

[marble crater]

I think they do? At least you can hear them move

[wind wadi]

yeah you can hear them running around and see their laser sights. they only make a spawning noise on vent purge missions when a cluster of them spawns

[potent echo]

arco

[upper sun]

[pine brook]

So, with Smite, Guaranteed Stucks on elite kill is better than +5% (to 7.5% = 12.5) for every kill?

[potent echo]

i prefer elite kills

take gun and shoot you get stacks

if you cant get elite kills then probably the other option would be better

[languid pasture]

there's a staff in melks shop that has run n gun

didn't know they could roll that and im so tempted

[marble crater]

If you didn't know they can roll that you are either really lucky or very new to psyker

[brazen rampart]

Guaranteed stacks are almost always going to be more valuable than the increased chance. Anything you use to kill an elite will give you a stack of empowered psionics. That's guns, staves, and melee weapons. (the only thing not counted is barrels)

So you could run, say, a revolver on your smite build and use that to get stacks of EP, then use smites on hordes/gangs of elites.

I say a revolver because that's the be-all end-all of elite hunting across the non ogryn classes.

[hardy raft]

guaranteed stacks also still have the 7.5% chance

[upper sun]

if someone is hyped over run n gun theyre either really good or really new

[hardy raft]

if runngun buffed damage while stationary

it would be good

[upper sun]

what if run n gun damage was close range damage and happened regardless of sprinting?

[hardy raft]

it is close range damage and latter part should be case 4bh

[upper sun]

i like them rebalancing t3 blessings and adding numbers to them

but some shit doesnt do anything

[hardy raft]

its for itemization

its gonna have that stat

[upper sun]

like perfect strike crit damage on fucking ogryn of all classes

[hardy raft]

its crit chance on code btw

[upper sun]

[hardy raft]

fatshark

[upper sun]

ok thats fine tbh

[hardy raft]

have you believed bahaj

[upper sun]

wait

does perfect strike on zealot get crit chance too

[hardy raft]

yes

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[hardy raft]

crit cdr is kinda ded rn tho

[upper sun]

my crit chance shred perfect strike evi15 is gonna SHRED

i dont do crit cdr i do crit marty

I am an ethical zealot player 🙏

[sweet beacon]

they fixed it??

[upper sun]

its broken?

i didnt even realize it was supposed to give something else lmao

[hardy raft]

code guy said that it was crit chance in the code

fatshark did fatshank and missed the locals

[marble crater]

It should give crit chance now, after the patch

[upper sun]

man imagine how disgusting weapons would be with blaze away 4

and blazing spirit 4

[hardy raft]

blaze away would be 8% probably

so

nothing really

we had em

[upper sun]

sooo

buffed back to where it was?

[hardy raft]

yes

[upper sun]

i mean idk if could even notice the difference between blaze away before and after the nerf

[hardy raft]

least the flechette nerf and stats suggest that

[upper sun]

i use it on kickback so i never really get to 5 stacks anyways so eh

[hardy raft]

why u use it on there

[upper sun]

blaze away?

its great on kickback

besides that kickback doesnt have very many good blessings

full bore? spread too far away

[haughty star]

Honestly one of my best evis has wrath and momentum on it lmao

[upper sun]

surgical? cant roll it

[haughty star]

I love that thing I'm basically immortal with it

[hardy raft]

skill issue

[upper sun]

i used momentum for the longest time tbh

but shred perfect strike cuts like butter

[hardy raft]

i use runngun on it

[haughty star]

My "main" has shred and rampage with maniacs and elites

[upper sun]

err knife butter etc

you get me

[marble crater]

What about Perfect Strike and Momentum now

[haughty star]

But rampage is open so if I ever did get p strime I could try it

[upper sun]

no crit 😭

3 blessings when??????????

[marble crater]

Crit from bleed, from keystone and Perfect Strike gives crit now as well

[upper sun]

more crit more better

[marble crater]

Not for Invocation of Death

[upper sun]

🙄

zealot only has one keystone marty

[haughty star]

Marty's kind of a meme momentum don't do enough

[rich jolt]

"Marty's kind of a meme" HUH?!

Wild

[haughty star]

Marty takes away far too much durability for me

Not only does it remove one or more defensive curios but it also encourages you to be even closer to death

[rich jolt]

If youre having a hard time staying alive with marty thats a skissue

Marty has insane survivability

Its literally the survivability keystone

[haughty star]

How is it for survivability again?

[rich jolt]

Great

[haughty star]

No like how? I'm asking what your logic behind your statement is lol

[rich jolt]

Oh lol

Imma be typing for a bit gimme a sec

[haughty star]

Does literally nothing for survivability from what I can gather. As far as survivability goes blazing would likely be the pick for all the survivability crit chance stuff it helps proc

[rich jolt]

I shall not fall makes it harder for enemies to break through toughness as you get hurt and bleed for the emperor reduces damage by 40% if it would bring you down to another wound

Which is obviously great with how many you have

[hardy raft]

its one of those "kill everything to survive"

bonus points for second wind cause thats pretty busted all things considered

[rich jolt]

I honestly have the best survival rate using marty

Probably only beat by voc

But voc is voc

Sooooo

To be expected

[haughty star]

I just don't see it. You can have all those aforementioned things while using a keystone that allows you to keep all your defensive curios up like momentum or piety

And 25 crit chance is no laughable matter either for damage

[rich jolt]

Marty survivability is just better?

Also its not like you arent getting damage using marty

You get attack speed and damage the more health you lose

[haughty star]

That's the only thing it does lol it does nothing for survivability but increase dps

Unless you big stupid and take the toughness reduction but meh

[rich jolt]

I literally just stated how it increases survival

[hardy raft]

40% damage plus 20% attack speed is also no joke

thats with freshly restored revanant stacks

usually gets you in 5 stacks of marty

with fotf and the previous +10% attack speed node you attack 50% faster

[rich jolt]

I can link you my marty build if you want BAZ

[hardy raft]

vet can expect up to 25%

they also have a thing called a power sword

but you get what i mean

[hardy raft]

the 5% TDR per wound

is more to make up for the lack of survival

rather than

actual survival

so ye

[rich jolt]

Wdym?

[haughty star]

Honestly lacerate has made about the only real point here, increasing survivability via dps. I just find a good piety build to be much more tanky and reliable. With Marty you do just go down easier when you screw up and relying on teammates to help you utilize the extra wounds is tough

[rich jolt]

Literally

Please tell me

What piety node gives you survivability

Am i going fucking insane

[haughty star]

The fact that it doesn't make you take away defensive curios for it to be effective

[upper sun]

you dont have to play with 1 wound if you keep going down

i ususally play with 2 or 3

[rich jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

Theres nothing worth saying here anymore

Im out

[haughty star]

Right. Say it's dps heavy and fun but in no way is it more tanky then either of the other capstones. Defensive curios do ALOT especially on chars like the zealot or ogryn who already have stacked health pools to increase

[hardy raft]

because zealot has a lot of emphasis on dodging

second wind, good balance, duelist

all procs on dodging

dont mind the actually dodge to increase stat on judgement

but usually "not getting hit" can be achieved, least in melee for zealot

the other problem of going melee is that you being physically oppressed by everyone in the room

which marty just can clear right off

however, it shows its weakness to shooters/gunners/shotguners and etc due to the limited toughness count

even with every toughness resistance on the bag you cant tank yourself

gunners are a priority otherwise it shreds you

any mishit wombo combo 2 guys hitting you at once is devastating for marty

[haughty star]

Yes but when one ill timed reaper can mow you down it's hard to call it tanky. Screw ups happen and it's nice to have some actual beef there to absorb the flak sometimes. I ran Marty alot but with the crits and the ability to retain defensive curios I just find piety to be a safer play

Sorry I was typing that before your last 3 points there lol

[hardy raft]

iirc someone runs a "modified" marty build with 1 less wound and a toughness curio in its place, and can achieve 175 toughness

tried it, didnt like it that much

but you can build it to a "reasonable" level of defense

its point taxxing though since you need to grab a extra +15 toughness node

[haughty star]

Yeah idk I just find the piety to be much safer and unless you're like 4 wounds down it's not really lacking in dps once you get piety rolling

Just getting it rolling is the only rough part but 25 enemies dying is nothing to a zealot and they don't even have to be killed by you

[hardy raft]

imho marty gets its strength cause it just plays damn well with how revanant works

[haughty star]

I could see that. I run rev and until on my piety as well. Regardless of skill issues it's just a literal no brainer to have because it's so cracked

[hardy raft]

rev is basically goto on any zealot build anyway

you can skip it but what does that make you

melee vet? kek

i know its different but point im making is that revanant makes zealot waaaay more unique

[haughty star]

Lol I would really like to run immolations but can't stand the point investment for them

And the knives have kind of a punctual "stfu" feel when you peg a Gunner in the face with it or some shit lol

[hardy raft]

just only get backstabber and take only the right path on immos

thats what i do

imho the top 2 nodes for immo is a must have anyway

if i only get backstabber for more damage on certain situations, i actually shave off a point

[haughty star]

Problem is I really enjoy scourge and 2nd wind

[hardy raft]

ye

[haughty star]

Basically I enjoy everything on the way to knives, I enjoy one thing on the way to immo

[hardy raft]

the 25% health regen

is pretty good

for replacement

but it doesnt help much on diving

[haughty star]

I only play with mk15 evis rn tho so basically I AM a immolation grenade

[hardy raft]

immo is better for obv reasons

[buoyant maple]

martyr's only real big downside is point tax (and frequently not getting top right side)

CDR is another but it's less of a problem when martyr puts out so much dmg so quickly

[hardy raft]

cdr is definitely a problem

[haughty star]

And survivability curios not being a thing

[hardy raft]

but after invoc nerf ehhh

[buoyant maple]

kind of yes kind of no

the only thing u rly miss out on is toughness

[haughty star]

Wounds don't count as survivability lol

[hardy raft]

you dont get top right on marty???????????

whats the build hmmm

[buoyant maple]

it's just that martyr in general wants top left & top middle for "survivability" synergy

ofc u can be a chad and skip both of those and take throwing knives

[haughty star]

Toughness is pretty important with your gunners and even the little shooty ads being a massive threat to Marty zealot

[haughty star]

I really don't find the invoc nerf to be that bad running piety and scourge basically every swing is a crit anyway lol

[buoyant maple]

even then u can sorta counter this problem with a gun that has ghost

or hit & run

hit & run got buffed it's pretty nice

[hardy raft]

hmmmm. we kinda always recommend top right even for marty

and least i do

[buoyant maple]

lower toughness is a downside but not one that's entirely dealbreaker

[haughty star]

That's getting pretty darn niche specific lol

[hardy raft]

i dont think the 40% DR is worth it

what hit&run got buffed also?

seeing some 1.0 second on t4 still

[buoyant maple]

proc on close ranged kill, close range increased from 8m to 12.5m

meaning u activate it more frequently

not uncommon for martyr to run smth like braced auto/laspistol tbh

[hardy raft]

ah right

never seen that tbh we just go for all damage

and deal with consequences later

[buoyant maple]

I don't think it's that worth either mainly because the nodes that lead up to it aren't very good

[hardy raft]

then why the top left nodes?

[haughty star]

I mean it's a hard call for me but generally I find piety to be much more forgiving and overall more useful. Don't get me wrong Marty is fun as hell but piety just more reliable for me

[buoyant maple]

yea but like u guys unironically play lacerate so

[hardy raft]

the heavy attack toughness?

[hardy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

but yes

damage over everything

[buoyant maple]

40% health DR plus restoring faith allows u to gate ur health incredibly effectively

[haughty star]

Learning this as a important lesson for ogryn

[buoyant maple]

because u can get hit to lose a wound, then restoring faith heals 25% and sends it over that wound threshold

so ur back on 2 wounds

[hardy raft]

i dont think we ever like that cause "oh it makes my hp back up losing my stacks"

[buoyant maple]

so u can activate the 40% health DR again for that wound

[buoyant maple]

yea but u guys also have zero clue abt breakpoints so

[hardy raft]

teeth

smh

i think the only bp we care about is rashad

[buoyant maple]

I don't think u guys know every breakpoint on rashad

[hardy raft]

we dont

we def dont

cause we use flak unarmored

[buoyant maple]

flak not necessary

unarmored is only for veteran

2nd best +dmg perk for veteran rashad is carapace

3 hit mauler & crusher

2 if 1 crit

[hardy raft]

its also recommended for zealot to not rely on HT stacks p sure

not that i care about, i want ragers dead

[buoyant maple]

why even

it's not even hard to keep it up

do u guys like, just swing forever and never block/push

[hardy raft]

irritated by first hit getting eaten i supose

[buoyant maple]

no but like

ur first strike vs ragers normally is PA

[hardy raft]

ill be real i assume this is what our community is half the time yes

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1257958123092578355/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.07.03_-_03.15.39.122.mp4?ex=668a40cc&is=6688ef4c&hm=953d42e5999c2cc8e37d1bb231f7f971f925577aa5894f84b81ae38ab8ab5df4&

[hardy raft]

ye

i still put on maniac on my zealot

get irritated by mass groups of them

not the recommended stuff on our end tho

[buoyant maple]

maniac for zealot rashad can 2 hit dreg ragers with martyr stacks

not very far off

u need like 2 or 3 stacks? smth like that

prob 2

[hardy raft]

ye which is why i use it

again, not consensus here

[buoyant maple]

the only enemy u might want high martyr stacks for on rashad is crusher

but martyr rashad usually takes carapace

[hardy raft]

its usualyl unarmored/flak for oneshotting every lesser enemy on the map without HT

[hardy raft]

unfortunately i have unyielding on its place

dumps a boss tho

[buoyant maple]

so it's in reality just under veteran rashad's dmg but with way faster atk speed

[hardy raft]

right vet gets free 35% on crusher

still not sure about my

68 finesse rashad on vet

its been doing me good but without desparato it freq fauls to oneshot stuff at times

[near wyvern]

Alright, will correct that then.

[near wyvern]

How so?

Oh crap right they have more HP did I have +unarmoured on mine as well?

Welp, gotta fix the entry today, BiS perks are then +maniac +unarmoured since with Execution you can meet the flak break points without flak

[plucky flax]

I play flak maniac with rashad/antax on zealot using martyrdom.

Can already 1 shot all chaff without unarmoured.

[upper sun]

the unarmored is for gunner and shotgunner 1 taps isnt it?

[upper sun]

Yes game i really wanted to nuke two brusiers

[pine brook]

Lightning Storm (+1 lightning) - worth taking?

[willow escarp]

Do you full charge surge staff or spam low charge?

[analog agate]

Failed mission with ogryn. I swear, every time I try him I get the assiest of the ass teammeates who should only be playing on sedition

[haughty star]

No

Both of the psyker smite augments only apply the the dumb lmb attack

[analog agate]

Thats... not true?

For enfeeble at least

[haughty star]

I'm pretty sure if it isn't it used to be

[analog agate]

I actially dont know about lightning storm. Cause f that ability

[haughty star]

There was a bunch of testing by @spice veldt and pygex a long time ago

Not sure if it actually applies anymore but back when I first started psyker the tested values were augments only worked on lmb

[lethal lagoon]

That's not true.

It was an old myth someone spread and then everyone believed and spread

[near wyvern]

Lighting storm does increase the speed and amount of enemies caught by RMB but it's insignificant

[lethal lagoon]

Basically our version of "You eat 8 spiders a year"

No, it's very sigifcant, it just will likely never apply in an actual game.

[near wyvern]

Enfeeble works but is only moderately worth it if you play EP smite

Outside of that it's not worth picking

[lethal lagoon]

Without +1 jump you get like 100 enemies. With it, well, when are there are more than 100 enemies within range of each other.

Really, the potential for it to hook around you is something to consider. But unless you are running a smite focused EP smite shriek build, it's pointless.

[lethal lagoon]

Only if you are running EP smite.

[languid pasture]

wall is so critical for making damnation runs easy

im never gonna get pick and mix

[lethal lagoon]

pick and mix is free nowadays?

[languid pasture]

can you get it without the brain burst cost talent?

[jovial juniper]

Started picking bubble, so I can climb where melee enemies can't hit me and to 360° protection against ranged

[lethal lagoon]

Lots of us got 5 kills in 12 seconds before the talent patch, you just need kinetic resonance.

That's why I said it's "free nowadays"

[long wharf]

I've started using the barrier instead of bubble

as it's too good at blocking shots that were never going to hit the group

[brazen rampart]

Yeah but bubble is also free toughness regen...

[long wharf]

I've found that you either never notice it because you're taking 0 damage and don't need it, or you never notice it because getting hit strips most if not all your toughness anyways

the slight toughness regen isn't going to save your life against an enemy

where as the barrier is going to physically block specialists

now, where the bubble shines is shutting down projectile-based attacks, such as beast of nurgle

bomber isn't going to be able to drop a grenade at your feet inside the bubble

etc.

[jovial juniper]

You can use barrier to free an ally from muties/dog grab

[long wharf]

yes, but that sounds like a waste of a barrier

you can just kill muties and dogs

[languid pasture]

i got it literally right after i complained lol

[lethal lagoon]

Let that be a lesson to you.

Complaining is an effective strategy.

[long wharf]

none of the penances today are anywhere near as bad as the ones at release

[lethal lagoon]

The warp charge penance was awful for a while

And they nerfed it recently but it's still worse.

[long wharf]

having to kill a monstrosity after doing 90% of its health with brain burst was stupid

[lethal lagoon]

That's the only one I can think of

[long wharf]

killing 12 (or was it 20?) enemies by knocking them off a ledge wasn't hard, per se, but required a specific map and team cooperation as well

[analog agate]

20

[long wharf]

ogryn charging for 100m in 5 seconds was a pain as well

everybody cheesed the not-getting-hit and the accuracy with 0 ammo left penances as well

[languid pasture]

now i just need malleus monstrorum

[upper sun]

they need to nerf weapon spec for vet now and heavy hitter

[long wharf]

yall youngins have no idea how easy you have it now shakes an angry fist at clouds

[languid pasture]

shame its private only ive def done it without trying now that it's 50%

[upper sun]

I heard the call

[languid pasture]

👀

[upper sun]

im starting the game rn get u ready

[languid pasture]

helllllll yeah

idk how to set up a private game is it missing board

[upper sun]

ill do it sec

[long wharf]

you don't want bots

[upper sun]

nah its 50% now

[languid pasture]

oh true

[marble crater]

Bots don't deal enough damage to matter

[upper sun]

even with bots its easy

[long wharf]

okay

[upper sun]

do you have a build?

[languid pasture]

ya

i got bb with shriek cost reduction ready to go

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1258684276237402182/1366_2000.jpg?ex=668a4214&is=6688f094&hm=84e9e65329a602996e4c85e64b9761b258f9a1a66c3bfd36061b15d1b19d4b15& i recommend this

shriek also works

[long wharf]

but you won't be nearly as quick about it

[upper sun]

double walls stack the BB buff

[languid pasture]

oh

ok

[long wharf]

yep

it makes BB stupid fast

[upper sun]

or if you dont wanna stack them you can just pop another wall when the buff is done

[languid pasture]

what is the perk that buffs walls?

[upper sun]

@languid pasture go to social then find player then invite me using my fatshark code

[upper sun]

the upgrade to brainburst makes it charge much faster when you ult regardless of the ult

i should rename my ogryn to "I'll let you solo her" kek

[languid pasture]

which mission and should i do heresy?

[upper sun]

ill start the mission if you're ready

[languid pasture]

ya

[upper sun]

low intensity coms should be perfect

[brazen rampart]

Do monstrous specialists count for that penance?

[upper sun]

yes

[brazen rampart]

Neat. Now I know in future.

[languid pasture]

@upper sun the goat 5 mins in and out

[upper sun]

game always spawns bosses in the first section when i do it with people idk how or wy

[marble crater]

You bribed Fatshark, don't play dumb

[ornate hamlet]

Wait, is this good now? It stacks 4 times!

So at full stacks, it went from 51 dmg on a crusher's back to 75.....

That's 50% more damage... Are the stacks multiplicative?

256 -> 327 on a yellow headshot on these guys:

[dense yacht]

this is the hardest class.... i keep blowing myself up >.<

[ornate hamlet]

Takes discipline!

[vernal frost]

im pretty sure it means that it stacks 4 times by 5%

20-40 5%
40-60 10%
60-80 15%
80-100 20%? i think

also its always been good

👀

i would assume that you seeing more damage is caused by you running that one peril dmg talent

[marble crater]

Make it a habit to quell peril after every one or two attacks or so, if you are still leveling then I would also be extra careful because staves in low levels generate even more peril

[vernal frost]

dont tell them about the 3 wound meta psyker build

[marble crater]

[fresh reef]

goofy as fuck illisi/surge build

[unkempt escarp]

Is smite + barrier not good anymore?

[lethal lagoon]

It was literally never good.

[fresh reef]

it's good, just most people using it are very bad

though tbh you really shouldn't take both

[lethal lagoon]

This is a horde game, "support" just means your teammates are playing man down.

[fluid terrace]

i miss when smite was infinite, it was bugged and op yeah sure but it was funny to just walk through the entire map stunning everything

[unkempt escarp]

Smite stops everything close, barrier stops everything far away.

[lethal lagoon]

Why do I have to explain that stopping enemies from bunching up and forcing your teammates out of their positons is bad

[vernal frost]

smite stops everything on the map tbh

[lethal lagoon]

It's a horde game

[vernal frost]

considering it has like

what

[lethal lagoon]

The object is to kill

[vernal frost]

60 jumps

[fluid terrace]

i had someone yell at me once because i didn't stun the crusher than kill him

[vernal frost]

with unlimited angle

[fluid terrace]

it was auric maeltstrom, and it was green buffed

[lethal lagoon]

If you had scoreboard, you'd likely discover the person who yelled at you was last in damage.

[fluid terrace]

he lost his shit because 'i wasn't doing my job'

[marble crater]

Excuse me, but what the fuck?

[vernal frost]

smite + shriek + perilous combustion and warp charges make it infinite tbh

low key

[fresh reef]

yes?

[marble crater]

Why did you create this? Who hurt you?

[lethal lagoon]

"Holy shit why is every team I queue with so bad"
*checks scoreboard
I think I know why....

[fresh reef]

Weed

[lethal lagoon]

Actual interaction I had, I wish I had my mic on to tell him why.

[fresh reef]

namely edibles

this one keeps fucking remetabolizing

shit's fucked

but I feel like at this rate I'm gonna become psychic irl

[brazen rampart]

Yeesh, kinetic flayer...

[stiff falcon]

Good Christ

[lethal lagoon]

I found listening to the people who thought fixing the bug was a "nerf" was more funny.

Epsecially when EP hit Surge staff, the discussions surrounding that were.... eye-opening.

[fluid terrace]

nah yeah it needed to be fixed but it was funny

[fresh reef]

"yeah doing upwards of 1.5m damage every game is totally balanced"

[fluid terrace]

psyker on the released of the reworked skills was a MESS

[fresh reef]

• Steam forums moment

[fluid terrace]

everything of theirs was busted

[upper sun]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

Well to be fair, the people saying it was balanced were so bad they were getting outdpsed with EP surge bug.

[fresh reef]

[upper sun]

Smite is peak balance and gameplay design

[jovial narwhal]

Are unlocked weapon blessings shared between characters?

[upper sun]

i have never seen anything as fun or engaging as smite

[upper sun]

for the same weapon groups yes

[fresh reef]

why is she stanced like that

[fluid terrace]

i do think smite, dome sheild is the strongest psyker can be

[fresh reef]

a light breeze would knock her over

[upper sun]

heavy headgear

[fresh reef]

fair

[upper sun]

I disagree

[lethal lagoon]

Avg smite bubble user:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3935643263194411095/

[fresh reef]

it may be a widely agreed to be bad node, but I like taking it because gambling is cool

flayer proc on an EP Brain Burst

[upper sun]

a good purge/trauma psyker has infinite scaling with stupid damage

i mean you know if trauma wasnt a garbage staff that needs a buff

[lethal lagoon]

Infinite scaling that has it's damage reduced by smite

Funny enough

[fresh reef]

reduced?

[brazen rampart]

Assail bubble or purge/trauma shriek are infinitely better than anything smite has to offer.

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, if you prevent enemies from bunching, you are obviously decreasing cleave damage.

[fresh reef]

ah

[lethal lagoon]

Plus you are forcing psykers to move forward to grab further away stunned enmies

Instead of them just running to you

So you break up chokepoints

[fresh reef]

I thought it was like, something bugged with the 10% increase damage

[lethal lagoon]

No it's just mechnically problematic.

[fresh reef]

wouldn't put it past fatshark to bug a talent to do the opposite of what it's supposed to do though

[upper sun]

Brainburst now targets teammates and objects

[brazen rampart]

Me omw to bb a barrel and get environmental kills on my teammates:

[fresh reef]

staring at a barrel so hard it explodes is peak psyker

[upper sun]

yeah in fact i believe thats how the emperor killed horus

just ledged him with no allies around

[lethal lagoon]

When that barrel hits just right

I really do like how the physics of a barrel just sometimes sends you blasting away again.

Darktide space program

[upper sun]

should i surrender a maul for falter or reflexes?

i dont have either

[fresh reef]

do people actually like the maul?
I can't stand using it

[upper sun]

i like it on zealot

well

the one with the looping overheads

[fresh reef]

I just realized that I've been running the exact same build but reversed

wall for stun, purgatus for burn

or shriek for burn, surge for stun

[languid pasture]

There is only one build my brother

[fresh reef]

gun psyker is a crime

(a very good crime, but a crime)

[marble crater]

That build is blaze trauma (please buff )

[upper sun]

august is gonna be lit with blazing spirit 4 maybe finally trauma wouldnt be bad 😭

[fresh reef]

why the fuck is this build working

the one I posted earlier

I alt-tabbed in an airlock and returned to see my corpse

auto-block mod you have failed me

[marble crater]

If it's working then because you are a good player, not because it's a good build, because it's not

[patent steeple]

btw, I feel like BB might be the best blitz to pair with a blaze trauma WS build.

my reasoning is simple: access to Wildfire and more reliable countering of snipers, without running smite because smite with Trauma is worthless imo

[lethal lagoon]

I'm so glad that they are 100% for sure adding blazing spirit tier 4 to the trauma and going back on their word would cause a riot.

[upper sun]

what word?

[languid pasture]

Can it run the 🅱️istol

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

That's the most popular opinion I have read today

[lethal lagoon]

Guys, give your safest take.

I think warp rider is pretty good.

[upper sun]

I think using your melee is bad

[patent steeple]

tbh that's kind of concerning imo

[languid pasture]

If they don’t want me to play melee psyker why do they keep giving me melee weeklies?

[patent steeple]

also, I am still unsure of whether or not to run Nexus or Flurry on my Surge Voidtrike build (I use True Aim in that build)...

[marble crater]

I'm still not sure if those weeklies count team kills or not

I think they do

[ornate hamlet]

What I mean to say is that it's better. I dont remember it saying "Stacks up to ffour times"

[marble crater]

That's a mod

[ornate hamlet]

What? Confirmed?

[ornate hamlet]

Trauma isn't bad, what heresy are you speaking?

[upper sun]

trauma is the weakest psyker staff unplayable

[marble crater]

Pretending blaze trauma is bad is a meme

But it's also bad

[ornate hamlet]

oh

I see your meme and raise you this:

[marble crater]

Cursed

[upper sun]

thats almost usable just needs crit chance and crit damage

[ornate hamlet]

Standby...

[fresh reef]

we died but holy shit this build is actually good

[fresh reef]

game spawned 3 plague ogryns at once, and 4 snipers

[ornate hamlet]

I just joined.

[upper sun]

real

[lethal lagoon]

No, I'm just really good at making jokes no one get's because I'm an idiot