#psyker-class
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Been using surge a lot today. So many shooters. IDK if HP has been altered or something, because it feels like I have to zap more often.
BUT I haven't played in weeks. So it's probably just my memory being bad.
You can do it
i will
i played the game alot since beta
but my place burned down
so i stopped playing for a year
Holly feck. That is so rough.
damn 379 knife first click
i once accidently burned my minecraft house down with lava
Nah, double bleed knife is old meta
Nope, lacerate wants you to hit the body
The knife is better at hitting weakspots
ty
by the way, what do i swap the unyielding out for
purg feels fine for the pace and the scaling of elites/special doesn't matter when it continues to have infinite cleave
its weaknesses are crushers/bulwarks and that's that
just sprint slide while channeling and let the dot cook if it's just some chaff
Yo, what are some fun/good gunker weapons?
ciag i've been told is Best Thing Ever
100k and highest roll is 340 with 46% damage, crafting rework can't come fast enough
brgh
i don't touch stinky ape boom-booms so i dont vouch for it ACTUALLY being the Best Thing Ever
I trust second hand rumours, what could go wrong
worst case scenario ill have a meme build
i've tried it a couple of times but i dislike it because soyker feels very disjointed with them (for me)
funnily enough the best gunker experience i've had was with the pistol laser
Yea i already have a decent purg, void and surge so wanted something to grief my vet friends with for a change
that's exactly the mindset i went with when i had that shitty laser
how important is stab? xd
it's very climby but otherwise quite okay?...
so you might have a GoDrOlL
as i've said, only ran a couple of times with it, and hated every second
Discovered another small problem lmao
some people also used to swear by the revolver, but i've got absolutely no authority on that part
47% is pretty low
but just jump into the psykhanium and compare it to one with 75% plus stab
You can try out Unyielding first. It's low-effort boss damage, and a bonus to bulwarks and og gunners.
Manics, 10% elites, 5% crit, carpace kind of, are viable too.
@patent wing hammerblow my new favourite blessing for pauls
Unyielding is fine to keep on it if you aren't running BB or you could swap it for Cara if you wanted to be a big middle finger to crushers with your right click lol
I think on my smyker(only build I tend to run a surge over voidstrike in) I run both cara/unyielding, since its a crit heavy build so it already handles flak armor pretty nicely.
anything is fine for perk2
nothing really shines on surge
flak gives you everything you need
Aren't you missing out on gunner one oneshots without flak?
Flak helps with the higher TTK on maulers and ragers, where as carapace ONLY affects crushers.
Flak also affects soulblaze against 13 targets iirc, where as carapace affects effectively zero.
yes there probably wont be any impact on your gameplay either way 
Unironically, yeah.
Unyielding can really be impactful depending on the pub quality for the day though
elites/maniac are good
Mauler rager in my build I should nto be using my surge over my blitz
Since I run smyker with empowered, I should be using smite to pop the entire horde.
makes shotgunner BPs more consistent
The same applies to crushes, no?
Yep, I also Carpace Unyielding on EP smite memes
Seems objectively wrong
Why, the only real threat are crushers and bosses

EP smite with creeping flames just overwhelms the whole map
Unyielding also gives you damage on monsters, which is the biggest weak point of smyker
surge has no boss damage
It's a geniunely broken braindead ability combo that requires 0 skill to just overdps the entire map at the same time
Unyielding I'm fine with
Carapace is insane, it's ONE enemy. Maulers are also almost always a oneshot
What part of whole map dead except crushers and bosses are you missing
And the drop in soulblaze damage
bulwarks and og gunners can survive too
also, new metalfab repair mission is great
the final event actually rewards smooving and splitting up
The part where you can kill the whole map faster with flak, and then deal with the crushers
No?
You aren't going to kill a 20-30 shotgunner wave with flak surge faster than smite lmao.
I'm telling you EP smite shriek, doesn't belong in the game
What did they change on metalfab?
It's completely out of place
or is metalfab part of the "void mission" name?
0 skill, whole map 
Ok fair enough
It's acceptable ONLY with ep smite
Yes.
Otherwise carapace is moronic
I think a big thing that would help is, vent should interupt the channel and consume a charge of EP
That would solve the OP problem, but it wouldn't solve the "support psyker" problem
I mean, all classes have some kind of support build
My point is there are no support builds
There are only the illusion of.
In reality, you are just forcing your team to play man down.
doesn't have to lean into support that much, and staffs offer variety
smite is just a boring ass turn off button as it is
just annihilate the mass stagger that it currently is
Give it variable stagger like fantasy lightning, 1-100 with 90+ being a stagger.
Make it completely random and unreliable
People thinking EP smite shriek is a support build 
^ smite bubble definitely

I've never considered EP smite to be support lol
I mean smite bubble doesn't help as much as you'd think. Holding 7 crushers with smite when you as the most effect anti-crusher class could just kill them isn't support
It's
very true

Ironically, thats also what your head will look like once you perils after
new map is really trying to shoehorn us into bubble psyker tho
honestly, kinda disappointed that perils bomb didnt do more lol
Bubble is like "Hey, don't worry about the buffed ranged units"
And then 10 seconds later
*Dies to buffed ranged units
Ogryn nuke psyker explosion or we riot

give us a talent that makes it like the big box of bombs XD
"Hey let me never learn how to utilise movement to neutralise shooters"
that way we can become the frame rate destroyer
There shall be a day when I run 3 wounds on psyker
And fatshark better make that day soon

game should give us a 5% chance on peril bomb to trigger DH or something
make it realll spicy
I could easily see the playerbase auto kicking psykers if they seem unskilled.
Oh definitely.
There was a time period shortly after beta where people were kicking psyker who didn't run surge.
Same for Ogryn shield.
Man, sometimes I forget how dumb the playerbase was for a bit.
Ogryn shield just feels so goofy now
With latest gunner buff, even the lesser guns do a good chunk of his stam per shot lol
don't fancy getting shot by a pack of elites with it without using the special or something
I like the heavy attack pattern on Ogryn shield and don't play him enough to know other weapon patterns
To be clear, when I say people thought Ogryn Shield was great, I mean the block feature.

Ogryn shield heavy attack eventually did get buffed waaay later to be pretty OP
Oh, I mostly use the shield for the taunt on block perk to get shooters to come closer
This was basically a year pre-taunt existing
Fair
I only got the game after the talent rework. I thought enough Fatshark Time had passed that the game was worth getting

ogryn has zero weapons other than shield
@lethal lagoon you dont even play ogryn

I play a decent amount of Ogryn
I just get bored easy because I'm immortal and just plow through games
Plus spamming heavies hurts my sensitive delicate lady fingers
Scratch that, ladies have tougher fingers than me

Funny, I feel most mortal on Ogryn
Everything targets me
Death by a thousand papercuts
I play balls to the wall forward rush psyker. When I suddenly switch to Ogryn, it's like free.
Just run 180-200 toughness and spam heavies

You would not be able to tell from my hands that I'm a regular weightlifter.
Ogryn is the least fun for me, alas
all leg day every day huh
Sometimes I look in the mirror and then quickly look away.


Man I really need to finish my home gym. I bought some heavy adjustable dumbells to tide me over covid and never really went back to a full routiune. My bench is probably pitful now

im down to 3 chinup sets from 15
the what now?
maul
The new shocky sticky wicky
theyre good
darth mol
also unironically the only counter to ragers rn aside from shooting them
You guys have a bench?
i just have a pull up bar 😭
should start doing 1 pull up for everytime i get disabled in a game id get so shreded
i just touch myself
i combine them all on sunny days
Nah buy some hand grippers. Forearms and calves are the muscles that respond well to volume.
Also, the first time I caught a girl leering at me, it was forearms.

The final event and other parts of the map, now you must run around and not just hold one spot
308lb deadlift and 80 bench is kinda unbalanced

thats the one where you rush around to clear the infestations and then hold up at the door typically right?
Yea no more door
I don't get how that's physically possible
All infestations are also active at the start, after that you have to turn 4 valves around the map
i was fat as a child
You have a huge ass?
I mean, great for your calves.
YOU KNOW IT
Bro got a dumpy for sure
That's actually a huge plus
not the heavy attack > block cancel > repeat 😭
Oh is it a sumo deadlift?
I was just thinking that Atlas lol
According to google A.I the average bench press for a 25 year old woman is 200 pounds
So get to work

Jesus google
Who let you out of your box
we've got a couple of years before ai takes over it seems
is perilous combustion ever worth taking outside of maybe purge staff builds
its not bad even on surge/void
Purg is like the one build where you can argue you shouldn't take PC
otherwise it's almost mandatory
Oh, FYI, warpfire can't trigger PC
is soulblaze busted even at that low of stacks then
i remember using it a hell of a while ago
and it wasnt that great
I mean you kill 3-5 elites and everything around them dies. 2 elites for all non-elites to die.
6 stacks kills all non-elites
The worst is I was just searching, so the A.I came up as a normal result, and I was like wtf.
It wasn't obviously clear it was an ai generated result
i dont have google ai for some reason
I had to read it over 3 times to realize it was a mistake
I have a chromebook beside my PC for reading/browsing.
rip
Did you search on bing 
I have like 3 adblocks working at any given time
I think legally speaking my chromebook will become 1% slower everytime I open bing
lmao
Oh a chromebook literally can't run without ad block
i assume wildfire is paired with it then?
paired with what?
Wildfire purg is 🤷♂️
Wildfire is also no go for purg.
PC is good enough by itself
For blaze trauma and creeping flames shriek spam, wildfire can be good
To be in every psyker build
Till the end of time, or till fatshark changes it
Purg is the one exception where you can argue it's not needed.
Still works on melee and blitz and stacks beyond 15 so it isn't back
eh its still nice when brainbursting
also i go EP purge so its kinda cheap
now thats some finger hurt
EP BB and shield is fun
It's not some, it's a full set.
i love returning players hopping straight into the new mission on auric and dying before they make it even halfway through the first event
Brainrot lmb spam barrels 

pls rate, bis?
You dont fw fart modifier??
not when i play psyker
its all zealots and ogryn charging through
meanwhile two ticks and i have a wound
Fatshark should make the gasmask cosmetics reduce gas damage🙏
I need more fart modifier for hestia toenails
anyone tried the New Attack on obscurus
thats pretty good. change sprint efficiency to flak or maniac and change unstable power to uncanny strike
Yes
Usable. DS4 is better DPS but if you always special heavy spam for big targets it's usable
The H1 does around the same as DS4 heavies now
what a cursed run.
psyker whos damage was 95% smite
mag dump bolter vet who was always red on ammo
???? zealot
At least the vet had kraks and the psyker had bubble 
slaughterer got a change?
No
ah from left to right it was Zealot, Vet, Me, Smiker.
I don't know how he did so little.
I was memeing a bit. For me it's Smiker, Ogryn, Psyker, Smiker.
I saved the screenshot for EP smiter with shriek versus bubble.
Ahhh gotcha. yeah I know smite is powerful in general and with shriek for sure.
The director changes are perfect for EP Smite and shriek, there are so many ragers right now
might consider hammerblow for saul because of so many ragers
tell me more
No one pities smite bubblers more than me

very cool use of walls, never cooked to stack the blitz buff when using abilities 
big brain plays
Quickplay auric heresy is even worst cause is a 33% chance it will be the new missions, is just swagger all over
Will change soon enough, of course the new map will be more frequent right after release
New map is very spicy, so at least it's not boring
Yeah I really like the new map, but my god am i tired of it
Time to manually select a mission
question is it worth taking wild fire if i have purg staff?
I will say it's not needed on purg, because you apply so much already it won't make a big enough difference
what blessings are needed for purg staff
Nexus and Flurry
Staggers the things. You can easily knock ragers out of their attack combos. Crushers are staggered with just a heavy strike down and a light, letting you get use out of SC without the special. Maulers get knocked over from three heavies and are generally more susceptible do SC.
hm when testing in shooting range, crushers do not take extra dmg when spamming h strikedowns
You gotta weave a light in to stagger them
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I noticed Falter staggers ragers n things too and you don't have to stack it
Falter is better at staggering ragers out of their combo but way worse against everything else (and hammerblow will stagger just as well when its at full stacks)
Hello warp enjoyers !
I haven't played the shards since their nerf, and while they were too good before, now I struggle to find them a place in my arsenal.
What are they good for ? What keystone and weaponry should I use with them ?
Shards being assail, sorry, didn't remember their name
Assail is great with both EP and DD keystones, good for thinning hordes, gunner groups and shooters being around the area
And good for special sniping from further away
You can also use them in melee, throw a few and then switch back to melee weapon
I don't know why people like using them for this... it takes like 3 to kill any elite or specialist at a distance and they have a definitive range to them for locking on.
If you're using them on normal shooters I can understand but it isn't nearly as good as getting closer and spamming a handful, though that's still a lot of peril to be working with.
25% per dart you throw with target lock.
Compared to my classic EP BB, I must admit it doesn't look great as an option
Depending on your build they are your option for that though
It's still not a good option.
I'd much rather bring a zarona or bolt pistol for precise shots like that.
Hell, a headhunter autogun would work in a pinch.
Anywho, the other points are good.
Must admit, If i'm playing Psyker, I prefer to go all in on the magic and use a staff
Sure, play a Headhunter on psyker just for specials 
Good with those keystones, always pick malefic right underneath assail for that tasty warp damage boost, and swap between melee and darts when there's a bunch of stuff in your face.
So it's a thinner anyway
If you like staves then you could use a voidstrike for your long range option.
Throw a bunch of them, switch to melee until peril went down, and then assess the situation again
ah
Note that force sword specials are considered warp damage, not kinetic damage.
What the heck is that supposed to do ?
Sounds logical
Then duelling sword kinda sucks with this option
So gun kills and melee kills that aren't force sword specials count.
Chainsword, maybe ?
Dsmk4 is actually perfect to use with this.
How so ?
Poke a handful of bad guys, throw darts.
When malefic is about to run out, poke someone else and throw more darts.
Poke with heavies then ? Just do heretic heads skewers ?
Yeah, duelling sword is a powerhouse
I don't know yet
I had a scrier, DD, Assail build from very long ago, where the whole gameplay what staring at the edge of the warp constantly
Very long being maybe a year
Yeah, that's still a valid setup.
And I just wasn't sure to do with that
Because back when I was suggested this build, about 3 weeks after, friend told me it sucks, notably because DD discarded all stacks when the timer was up
Personally I think scrier's requires dd to work well, much like shriek cycle requires warp battery.
So just my surge with a good voidstrike
Yeah I saw that in my game
Tbh, if I didn't mess up my loadout I wouldn't have found out
If you drop below 15 stacks now it's either because people are stealing your marked targets or you're in an airlock.
Personally, I run bb with scriers and dd.
But thats because I use a purgatus staff as my secondary.
Very valid. Bb and ep are nasty together.
I swear I remember ep being stronger, though.
Also, being able to quickly cycle empower bb on a gunner pack is an awesome feeling
Like, you only get charges of ep on elite kills, not specialists, yeah?
Yeah
I swear I remember that also including specialists.
Maybe it was unintended or it was a nerf.
Kinda sucks, but at the same time, it would be kinda broken if both were included imo
Yeah, anything pingable is typically worth using ep on.
Alright, thanks for all the suggestions lads, imma go back to the drawing board and try something I'll like to use
Transfer Peril, switch to Warp Nexus, and then Ranged damage for specialists ? Maniacs ? Flak ?
Carapace is also an option, you can test breakpoints in the meat grinder
If you use a dueling sword with that then yeah
Ngl, I don't use anything but a duelling sword on almost all of my psyker's loadout
i pref flak because it gets more use overall
carapace is nice and all but crushers are rarely an issue
- you can still oneshot them with a surge proc
Not sure if this is a weird combo or not but dome shield psyker with purg staff and assial
Covers all my bases at least 
From short to long range
I use dome bb ds4 recon 6 and warp siphon
I run BB with purge to help with carapace dmg tbh. That way I’m not reliant on just my melee to deal with crushers. Also that side of the tree has soulblaze talents like wildfire kekw
If you're using purg you should definitely take empathic evasion. Purg has some of the highest crits in the entire game, burning poxwalkers will make you immune to ranged damage
very safe option
ye empathic evasion has crazy uptime on purge
Ooooo that sounds useful what blessing would y’all recommend for purg
Shout out to the Ogryn who waited to be rescued while a total of 8 different people joined and left after falling off a ledge at the start of the new map 
LOL
Pretty sure you can't
Unless something has changed, the point of taking carapace on void was always to reach a one shot with surge
Does psyker have ANYTHING that can 1shot a crusher?
No right?
Pretty sure no
maybe DS4?
DS4 with scriers and DD
right right
Void with surge and carapace perk
My incomparable mind can one shot a crusher

A crusher can one shot me 
oh no i hope a big strong ogryn doesn't pound me with his big stick v.v
What'd they do this time
basically
weapon/skill gets nerfed
oh no zealot useless delete the class
wtf are you on about
zealot so weak, vet doesn't get nerfed
what
2 people started arguing and then like.. people would join in, argue for a bit, go away, the 2 same people STILL going at it
i thoroughly enjoyed it, but the brain rot may have been pyrrhic
I steer clear of that place. Full of zoomers and psykanhium warriors
like sometimes there's useful information
but everything I've seen so far is that psyker chat is the best place to go for raw information
mostly because of people like @wind spruce
Was that vetchat or zealot chat
zealot
Shucks
They're both awful tbh
I stir zealot chat
Zealot chat is the last place I wanna ask something 
Last time I looked into there they were talking about Destiny 
The dude held NOTHING back it was amazing the raw aggression lmao
Wait a minute how the heck am I supposed to be immune to range fire
Without some sort of blessing like stripped down
Emphatic Evasion talent
Oh I see
fire staff has the highest effective crits in the game I believe
It might be very important with the current Ai director 
Like even if the crit rate itself isn't like zomg so high
The sheer rate of fire (hah) will let you just dunk on enemies
I'm still fuckin livid at Hadron RNG over these blessings
LMB build?
"This staff is shaping up to be too good, have the most garbage blessings possible"
wat mean no more locks?
Weapon blessing/perks get locked out when you change 2/4 options
Means you can modify all perks and blessings in the future
the update will let you do all 4
So how often do crits proc with purg staff
the answer is always
Do people really be payin' for nitro
Oh wtf? When is that update coming?
I can't post my high fidelity clips without it v.v
Sorry, I am not a patch reader. I just came back from a hiatus
Do people really bitch about others having nitro
Well let's say you have 25% crit (you'll sometimes have more). Purg staff hits more than once per second (idk the exact rate, bc i don't use bad staffs
), hitting anywhere from 5-20 enemies
Is this discord server full of whiny little bitches
Every Discord server is
Yes to both of those answer
That's anywhere up to like 20 procs per second
Oi purg ain’t bad it’s pretty solid
I can't even record high fidelity clips 😭
purga staff is really good
(high fidelity clip :D)
BAD
easiest way to get 1 mil dmg
bursters should have -999% cleave but only for trapper nets
yes, yes, purg staff is the worst staff available
But even then it's still A tier lmao
My purg staff got the quell shaft
It's fine I just like being mean to it
They should let us pay crazy amounts to reroll specific base stats
this conversation was bizarre
RIGHT?
because that guy said stuff like "rending doesn't apply to immo nades"
Soon (TM)
They should let us grind 50h to increase a base stat by 1% i think that would be neat
which is objectively incorrect
dude that read was wild
Your wish is coming
And it kept on going in circles lmao
Yeah...
that guy also said 50% tdr doesn't matter when fighting shooters because you lose all your toughness instantly
so like
u know
I've got some weapons where i collected all of the blessings
yeah, it's better to die immediately than have defensive stats
Some guy in here said I'd get a guaranteed T4 warp nexus/flurry on my surge staff last night. Consecrated it, "here, have hit and run"
And i swear to the high heavens, gods above, all of them that if i get a piddly amount of mastery on those and still have to grind 300h i will pay someone to dump a truckload of steaming shit on the fatshark parking lot
im simultaneously fighting long enough to run out of ammo and thus complaining about having no ammo (i post screenshots where my teammates are all at... half ammo) and also instantly dying to ranged threats
man I had a guy bitch about no ammo with 3 psykers on the team
And the dude would NOT shut up
"PING AMMO WHERES AMMO GUYS I AHVE NO AMMO"
same, dudes are mad
Is he playing with a shredder pistol and no accuracy?
thats when u start spamming i need ammo
Was he legally blind?
my favorite is when people at yellow take the big bags
I got to the point where I was like
I hope fatshark adds some features that let us feed the zels with ammo like momma bird feeds her babies
bro I know we're psykers but we can't magic ammo up for you
end of the summer it will definitely be the end of the summer this time we promise it won't get delayed again
When people start doing that I tell the same joke
totally any day now 🙏
ignore that its been delayed for like a year and a half at this point it's defintely going to release at the end of the summer
"Veteran Challenge: Don't complain about ammo for an entire match. (Difficulty: Impossible)"
difficulty director is fucking busted rn lol
I actually just ran a damnation maelstrom with 3 vets and not one asked for ammo. It was a weird first match of the day
POG god roll
OH
i was just doing a regular ass heresy with a buddy and it threw like over 200 ragers at us in one phase lol
Last match yesterday was auric dam on new map, 4 psykers, all spamming 'i need ammo'
Gunkers lul
i mean it definitely ain't good compared to everyother option
It's a completely fine option compared to other weapons
Flamer does feel underwhelming, tbh.
what kind of psyker uses a gun
a good one
None of us
The best kind
Gunkers are god tier if tuned right
a Boring One
nah
Flamers is a worse purgatus 
Scriers Gaze + Columnus Mk5 = me happy
you can burn down an entire mauler horde with one mag what do you meaaaan
Playing staff psyker is cringe
staff is kinda underwhelming if you're not built directly for it
Infinite cleave is crazy good regardless
Can't burn down crusher hordes anymore 😢
even runing bb and shield i typically run gun
i've never had an issue with surge at least
surge has dps issues
Surge is good for players who like to play reactively

no AoE
i have no idea how to build in this game i just use wahtever sounds fun
I find surge very good against these insane shooters and gunners right now
surge + ep smite is fun
not really
If you consistently surge a monstrosity you'll easily get second or third place in boss damage behind players who have good weapons
Like it's not the best
I'm just saying, for "burn the heretic" being a core tenet of the Ecclesiarchy, the flamers kinda trash.
Like, when I whip that baby out, I want to see heretics panic and run away while their flesh slides off. Being on fire is honestly so much worse than being shot.
but it's good
surge helped me a ton when i was doing keep your distance
nothing could touch me
Of course, the damage output is consistent and powerful
But it's really lacking in burst & aoe damage
yee
shriek is your surge aoe
my usual build is bb, shriek, and empowered with the surge
not gonna do it immediately but you won't fail at doing it
Now you guys are really making me salty that my surge staff has trash blessings lol
When up against larger hordes you end up doing more fire damage by picking off elites than from surge itself
many such cases
yee. factually correct. That's what smite is for
surge/smite have crazy synergy
wish the loxbury top was black as well
congrats on red name
back in my day they were the same thing
thanks
how are we doing on the event?
I have the B dunce hat.
im at 550
I don't because i swapped from game pass to steam to get mods 😢
i forgot the event is happening i should probably actually do it
you can do it passively like me
I don't know 
It's okay. The best way to use that hat is to go naked except for hat it looks so fuckin goofy
just play the game let other people waste their plasteel on new weapons
I'm at about 20 from using the saul once
i just straight up forgot to equip the new weapons cause i've been trying to complete psyker penances
Nobody else ever used the new weapons
this has been my strategy
I finished the event
Rolled an alright saul on zealot i'll go slaughter with a lil bit that should get me up quickly
nice
if fatshark does not fix the issue with penances of certain types not counting towards penances im going to ahve a Brain Aneurysm
I just wish they'd fix the hit reg issues
i rolled all trash aside from one mace on psyker
Brain Aneuryms is the hidden pennace they want all players to achieve.
More times than I can count on my hands have I stealthed, gone up behind a monster, heavy....and deal 0 damage
wasted too many resources on the new weapons and gave up tbh
i wish they'd do many things that they will never do so
I just want one of the fatshark devs to fuck up the meat grinder one patch and everyone can go in there and farm for penances
The game also started eating my inputs lately 
I fucking hate the frag box for ogryn so much
BRO there is NOTHING more tilting than trying to swap to your melee at 100% peril cause you're in a skirmish and can't quell...only for you to not have swapped weapons
No barrels in the psykhanium tho 😦
then you LMB and scream
netcode moment

still waiting for those new classes every quarter
kek
must be misremembering how long a quarter is i don't believe it's two years tho
oh yeah so in zealot chat I had one guy go "rending isn't really that good" (I'm using ruthless backstab don't @ me)
Guess I'm running with this until I get a better tier blessing
correct me if i am wrong
3 lines later
its ok once the crafting update is out its gonna be all new content
"you have no idea how good rending is that's why they're nerfing uncanny"
Like ?????????
2029 is gonna be our year dt bros
yeah cause that's definitely gonna happen
totally
Is 69% critical bonus absolute shit or does it not matter as much on surge?
its fine
It's nice
i swear people have actual stalkholm syndrome about this game
where the hell is arco with the surge excel sheet?
crit bonus fluxuates by like 5% at most on a high rated staff
"they just need more time" IT HAS BEEN TWO YEARS
I'm personally a fan of warp resistance but crit is the "best" dump
Is Pygex's the meta surge build right now?

I forgot I had this emote
it's cute
gonna use it more
is the new shotgun any good
I'd rate it high C low B tier
great.
I really don't want to give them anymore money, but I like the witches' fingers trinket in the shop. 😓
i bought that, I wear it out of principle but it does make me a little uncomfortable 😄
they will not get anymore of my money until they stop the Activision-Blizzard tier money grubbng
I don't want to pay so much for cosmetics, but I also want to look nice 
If only they invested as much into fixing the game as they did modeling sick cosmetics
Do new cosmetics cycle in at midnight?
I honestly thought the Magistratum Enforcers looked a bit dumb
it's so edgy I love it
I thought it was a helldiver's collab
I don't like how the zealot has a tome strapped to the front of the helmet though..
rending is simultaneously good and not good since it basically makes every damage profile to unarmored damage profile(unless you do more damage on certain armor types then it just buffs it a bit) but mostly it's exclusive for crusher killing
Yeah.. That didn't make sense to me
It's good for bosses too though!
And that's my main focus personally, so I run ruthless backstab because I'm a gigachad who wants to always have rending
i dont think unyielding has a good damage decompression for uncanny to be extreme
Hmm. I will test it later
oh?
i cant trust fatshar lol
Uncanny isn't a major buff against unyielding on DS
"useless past 100%" "extra damage past 100%"
it was reworked
knife zealot
used to give out flat damage buffs p sure
Idk if it's major on knife either
but now it just buffs up to the unarmored damage profile and quickly deteoriates
yeah I need to actually test it
This is right but also it seems to do less than I think it should
yeah i dont trust it either
I tested uncanny three vs four
And the damage increase was tiny
eh. I can 2shot weakened bosses anyways so I'm not too torn up about it
or 4-5 if I get bad crits
You know what? I bet you if I asked about 100% ovecapped rending in general chat it'll get some people into some heated arguments
smarf
anyhoo
heard that they used to give out flat increase
and then changed up to 100% pen and then anything overflows gets converted into damage at 4 to 1 ratio
some people used to use uncanny + backstab to get 220% rending
core memory engram unlocked
apprantly finesse boost(precog) deals more damage, but idk

you probably need to test
This is probably true, but I like the consistency for rending
Always got rending no matter where I'm positioned
yeah just that rending has kinda low expected damage output
and idk if it even actually does more damage
yeah I'll test dmg later
dude my heavy attacks don't even kill snipers
if I don't crit
But thank you for the insight!
Will have to look at it later
I had two zealots over 3k in my lobby. One of them couldnt compete with the other just flopped with the meta build.
mogged
Also. the talent in warp siphon keystone that increases damage to warp abilities also includes smite, right?
🤔 doesnt it increase all damage?
Prob. Im just not looking at it
It works pretty well when im using warp siphon surge staff
with the 6 charge
It's all damage, yeah
Right, I had a moment with the build where i was able to get 3 vents off in a single smite last night
and of course it was when i had my obs off
I thought it was hella fun though. Only falling short at crushers and bosses
Hunting Grounds moment 
Yep
It was a pack of hounds came in, then followed by a patrol of shotgunners then follwed with the next pack of hounds

It was the mission for shutting down the relay in that one early room wit hthe giant globe
btw, am I the only one who finds Recon Las to be better than CIAG for gunker just because the Recon has almost zero recoil and access to a crit synergy blessing (Infernus)?
Smite against hounds is just nice 
No, psyker makes the most usage out of infernus. But veteran can get the most mileage out of the damage
Psyker can just hyperburst down enemies with mind flayer
fair point about the damage part... I myself use assail with any gunker build (mostly to save ammo and gain toughness back quickly from horde via Soulstealer if needed)
Assail is good. I just like bursting down bosses. having a melee for CC isnt ideal but its fun
Also allows me to use bubble shield cause peril isnt an issue.
You are 1% burn away from max burn stacks, but yeah that's usable, Nexus instead of RunnGun and it's already fine, you can decide if you want to upgrade flak or Flurry to t4 or change Maniac to crit chance or unyielding
why this is happening?
Bug
what does this do them?
Gives you more damage after non warp kills
Yeah i was looking at that perk too and was wondering why its broken
I don't think the talent is broken, just the tool tip is bugged
With the Dreg Rager buffs, maybe Maniac on Purg is a good idea
im all for it tbh
my one critique is perhaps their impact triggers should be lowered so that they are slightly easier to stagger for all classes/weapons
ragers were fun before i could find them in melee
now i'm back to only ranged with ragers
no they were FUN
i guess, they were basically invisible to me
rager comes at you now what do you do?
dodge backwards and shoot it in the head like every other enemy?
well yeah you shoot em, but you got three other players to back off towards
boring
i'd survive in a corner surrounded by ragers before, and that's not right
that's a situation where i should get blasted
i think u just wanna get blasted and dont care who does it
im never gonna be more breedable than right now

but ya the dodge change was good, because it made intuitive sense and the 'double attack per attack' that ragers were executing was not very obvious
sadly the result was ragers became incredibly trivial, at least that was my experience
two ragers is still manageable, three+ gets spooky and you start spending resources, but that's the point
they are there to punish the shit out of you if you're out of position with nothing or no one else supporting you
and it's just the one rager type (the weakest) that got buffed
if flak ragers were the speedy ones id be like "wtf"
me pressing parry and watching the ragers head explode
Most of my weapons have flak, so flak ragers are the weaker ones as far as I am concerned, I also just run into A LOT more dreg ragers, more often and larger groups
on the whole most weapons have much better maniac ADMs than Flak, and even with +Flak your gun is likely to do more DPS against Manaic than Flak
Crit is the one big X factor there
and as a zealot, my throwing knife gets much more mileage against dreg than scab ragers
Maybe I play the weapons where it doesn't matter then 
obscurus is fucking cracked lol
tell me more
it's like actually a happy medium between deimos and illisi now
How so
the h1 drops pretty much every special or lesser elite in one tap
haven't tested in psykaneum but it's awesome in application
I try to stay away from the psykanium. Place gives you a false idea of how games are gonna go unless I want to get into the rotation of a build
mines not optimal either, i got unstable and slaughterer 3 and i still like it better than my best illisi or deimos
for either job that they do respectively
Guess I will see if I can fix one of mine and give it a test on my surge build, not like I use the illisi a lot there anyway 
lmao
lately i been using the sword alot more on that build with how cracked the dd is
difficulty director
What did they do the mk2?
Dueling sword? Buffed the heavy to be almost the same as DS4
Force sword
I know the mk2 DS got a very nice buff
flak and crit chance on purga
maniac on melee
I don't know the marks on force swords 
h1 deals like deimos damage now
peak purga combo
that was always the problem with obscurus was that it was a UNHAPPY medium between illisi and dei
Ngl i hope Psyker gets a good helmet, or at least something like the hood the psyker was wearing in Astartes
thank you for your honesty
gonna lie, i hope psyker gets a good helmet
i HATE all those posers who pretend that they want a new helmet
It's funny how Psyker usually has the best chestpieces, but the worst helmets
I want a new helmet, for free though
That overcoat is p2w as hell, makes the bolt pistol feel way better for some reason
full cloth physics and you get those knight metal gauntlets in first person
Honestly miffed that we got a shitty oubliette instead of
Honestly, anything
Considering it's a parade dress (the coat), you'd think you'd have something like a decorated helm but no, it's just a shitty collar

purg staff, what should i get on it?
You can leave the blessings and change the perks to flak and either maniac crit chance or Unyielding
im trying the surge staff smite build but smite doesnt seem to do shit and i always end up running out of peril
You going vent EP?
idk what that is
And grabbing PC and venting flames?
i just followed the build in the guide
Cause smite is bad. Smite with venting flames is good though. Because venting flames is good.
EP smite isn’t bad cause fatshark keeps buffing it for the LCDs
for some FUKKEN REASON
can assail still clear hordes?
No idea where or what
Assail is good for gunker, smite can hordeclear longer and more targets (and more low tier elite targets aka mixed hordes)
is there a vid showcasing it bc i cang seem to make it work
using shriek to make flames just nothing dies still
Maniac and uncanny on there and you'll be Gucci
It barely even needs uncanny 
Are you shrieking at 80% peril so your smite continues and you get Maximum flame value
Whatever the case i’m going to wkae up and find my psyker build
uncanny goes on everything
probably a dumb question, but what perks are good for a Surge staff? I've been running crit chance + crit damage for a while but i feel it isn't performing the best it could
Flak is the must. Elite can allow some early breakpoints or maniac
crit damage is bad on everything for surge you want flak with crit chance/elite/maniac
Much of the staff depends on randomness though
oh i start smite and THEN shriek?
flak is essential for purge/surge/trauma because it targets center mass of enemies and that armor for most of them is flak
will take that into account for my other staffs as well, ty
And for 90% of weapons
That's exactly what I did 
Yes lol, every aspect of shriek scales with your current peril
should i grab this
if you wanna grab it, do so only to sacrifice it for the Uncanny Strike blessing unlock.
Backstab is not worth it outside of stealth vet/zealot imo, and the perks are seemingly very bad
so smite with shriek is a better mixed horde clear than assail?
It’s better period once you get to a certain density
Im just being stuck in bed
are you too close to falling asleep to get out of bed, or just too lazy?
Yes maybe?
I have some bad chronic fatigue from a head injury
oof. hopefully the head injury is not bad enough for you to pass out so hard that you die...
It’s been a few years so it hasn’t happened yet
ah ok, maybe you should have first specified the amount of time you have had the head injury so that I didn't have to assume that it was a recent thing...
misunderstandings are embarassing for all parties involved.

Obscures moveset is not for me
You look like my psyker except his color scheme is white and red
Hey that's me
Stealing my drip
and surely not anyone else cause of how good looking it is
Sir you are wearing a wife beater.
lame
Psyker Toretto?
What is dump stat for voidstrike ataff
Blast radius
quell speed too?
It can be. Especially if you take the talent which increases quell speed
its very dependant
scryers gaze crit voidstaff i would say peril resistance because u want to be at high peril
I could be wrong though cuz again I havent touched psyker in so long
I have neglected it because it just feels bad to play imo
ik this has probably been asked a million times but cant find answer thru search
what blessings/perks on deimos
what is that again I dont remember shit by name
uhh
idk I think I have a bis I used to but I cant remember
if I still have it
I dont have 1 and I cant remember off the top of my head sorz
btw, I was just in a game of 2 other psykers and a vet.
the reason why I am telling you about this, is because once we heard a DH, the vet called it "mommy", and I found that very funny for some reason.
the conversation then shifted into me pointing out that trapper could be called mommy instead of DH, and eventually once the game spawned a bunch of hordes and we almost lost, one of the other players typed something like, "that horde was definitely the game giving us a bonk for being too unwise"
Do you play usually with deflector?
never
wasnt planning to
just getting a little bored of dueling sword
Then you can replace it with slaughterer, or executor for memes.
And replace flak or elite with maniac, not sure which
EP smite build i use DS4+ surge this is just an example
I need to make a Hakari edit with the RNG BR upgrade
Is hakari an anime or something? It sounds like a name of one…
It's a gambler from Jujutsu Kaisen, he's only in the manga as of now but the community loves him
Ok then. I don’t know anime or manga at all…
ty
Deserved to be honest
Agreed, I am already regretting the fact I went into that conversation to begin with…
yooo just got this after a game
Free uncanny t4, nice
almost usable if not for the first target roll damn
whats the deimos optimal moveset?
is it just lights for hordes
and then heavy spam for elites
Usually you would pair it with a horde clearing ranged weapon and not use it for them
hm ok
so hows thje combo work
one light, one heavy, repeat?
But yeah, spam lights, works well enough
heavy then light x3







