#psyker-class

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mellow dock
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was my fav class before i left off

strong gulch
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Been using surge a lot today. So many shooters. IDK if HP has been altered or something, because it feels like I have to zap more often.

BUT I haven't played in weeks. So it's probably just my memory being bad.

mellow dock
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mastered all of them but psyker was special

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seems like i have to relearn it

strong gulch
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You can do it

mellow dock
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i will

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i played the game alot since beta

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but my place burned down

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so i stopped playing for a year

strong gulch
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Holly feck. That is so rough.

left basin
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damn 379 knife first click

gleaming crystal
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i once accidently burned my minecraft house down with lava

left basin
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HEHEHE

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HEHEHEHEHEH

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thanks beloved big casino time

mellow dock
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this the best roll?

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for blessings

lethal lagoon
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Nah, double bleed knife is old meta

left basin
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you change lacerate to uncanny afaik

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and eleeets to.. flak?

jovial juniper
mellow dock
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anyone got a good surge staff build

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with blessings on staff

left basin
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i've been told this is okay-ish

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unyielding is out of place but that's pretty much it

mellow dock
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ty

left basin
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by the way, what do i swap the unyielding out for

spice veldt
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purg feels fine for the pace and the scaling of elites/special doesn't matter when it continues to have infinite cleave
its weaknesses are crushers/bulwarks and that's that

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just sprint slide while channeling and let the dot cook if it's just some chaff

misty aspen
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Yo, what are some fun/good gunker weapons?

left basin
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ciag i've been told is Best Thing Ever

misty aspen
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100k and highest roll is 340 with 46% damage, crafting rework can't come fast enough

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brgh

left basin
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i don't touch stinky ape boom-booms so i dont vouch for it ACTUALLY being the Best Thing Ever

misty aspen
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worst case scenario ill have a meme build

left basin
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i've tried it a couple of times but i dislike it because soyker feels very disjointed with them (for me)

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funnily enough the best gunker experience i've had was with the pistol laser

misty aspen
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Yea i already have a decent purg, void and surge so wanted something to grief my vet friends with for a change

left basin
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that's exactly the mindset i went with when i had that shitty laser

misty aspen
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how important is stab? xd

left basin
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it's very climby but otherwise quite okay?...

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so you might have a GoDrOlL

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as i've said, only ran a couple of times with it, and hated every second

misty aspen
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Discovered another small problem lmao

left basin
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some people also used to swear by the revolver, but i've got absolutely no authority on that part

potent echo
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zarona good

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point blank fix agrivolvo is more fun

wind spruce
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but just jump into the psykhanium and compare it to one with 75% plus stab

lethal lagoon
wind spruce
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@patent wing hammerblow my new favourite blessing for pauls

upper sun
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give it back

sand moss
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I think on my smyker(only build I tend to run a surge over voidstrike in) I run both cara/unyielding, since its a crit heavy build so it already handles flak armor pretty nicely.

potent echo
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anything is fine for perk2

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nothing really shines on surge

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flak gives you everything you need

lethal lagoon
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Crit damage time

wind spruce
potent echo
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yes there probably wont be any impact on your gameplay either way KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
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Unironically, yeah.

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Unyielding can really be impactful depending on the pub quality for the day though

upper sun
sand moss
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Mauler rager in my build I should nto be using my surge over my blitz

potent echo
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go crit chance for the most 🤷‍♂️

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elties is fine too i guess

sand moss
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Since I run smyker with empowered, I should be using smite to pop the entire horde.

potent echo
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makes shotgunner BPs more consistent

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
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Yep, I also Carpace Unyielding on EP smite memes

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
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Why, the only real threat are crushers and bosses

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EP smite with creeping flames just overwhelms the whole map

sand moss
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Unyielding also gives you damage on monsters, which is the biggest weak point of smyker

potent echo
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surge has no boss damage

lethal lagoon
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It's a geniunely broken braindead ability combo that requires 0 skill to just overdps the entire map at the same time

wind spruce
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Unyielding I'm fine with

lethal lagoon
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So need to shore up the few weakenesses

wind spruce
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Carapace is insane, it's ONE enemy. Maulers are also almost always a oneshot

vernal blaze
lethal lagoon
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What part of whole map dead except crushers and bosses are you missing

wind spruce
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And the drop in soulblaze damage

lethal lagoon
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bulwarks and og gunners can survive too

potent echo
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also, new metalfab repair mission is great

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the final event actually rewards smooving and splitting up

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
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No?

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You aren't going to kill a 20-30 shotgunner wave with flak surge faster than smite lmao.

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I'm telling you EP smite shriek, doesn't belong in the game

sand moss
lethal lagoon
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It's completely out of place

sand moss
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or is metalfab part of the "void mission" name?

lethal lagoon
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0 skill, whole map Deadge

wind spruce
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It's acceptable ONLY with ep smite

lethal lagoon
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Yes.

wind spruce
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Otherwise carapace is moronic

sand moss
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I think a big thing that would help is, vent should interupt the channel and consume a charge of EP

lethal lagoon
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I could see an argument being made for Surge Melee mael

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But yeah

lethal lagoon
wind spruce
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Nah 25% soulblaze damage

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And flak let's you kill bruisers with 6 stacks

sand moss
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I mean, all classes have some kind of support build

lethal lagoon
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My point is there are no support builds

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There are only the illusion of.

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In reality, you are just forcing your team to play man down.

spice veldt
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doesn't have to lean into support that much, and staffs offer variety

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smite is just a boring ass turn off button as it is

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just annihilate the mass stagger that it currently is

lethal lagoon
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Give it variable stagger like fantasy lightning, 1-100 with 90+ being a stagger.

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Make it completely random and unreliable

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
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I mean it's more smite bubble.

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But yeah

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I've seen people call it support

sand moss
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^ smite bubble definitely

lethal lagoon
sand moss
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I've never considered EP smite to be support lol

lethal lagoon
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I mean smite bubble doesn't help as much as you'd think. Holding 7 crushers with smite when you as the most effect anti-crusher class could just kill them isn't support

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It's

sand moss
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very true

lethal lagoon
sand moss
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Ironically, thats also what your head will look like once you perils after

lethal lagoon
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It's rounder

sand moss
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new map is really trying to shoehorn us into bubble psyker tho

sand moss
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honestly, kinda disappointed that perils bomb didnt do more lol

lethal lagoon
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Bubble is like "Hey, don't worry about the buffed ranged units"
And then 10 seconds later
*Dies to buffed ranged units

lethal lagoon
sand moss
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give us a talent that makes it like the big box of bombs XD

wind spruce
sand moss
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that way we can become the frame rate destroyer

lethal lagoon
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There shall be a day when I run 3 wounds on psyker

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And fatshark better make that day soon

sand moss
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game should give us a 5% chance on peril bomb to trigger DH or something

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make it realll spicy

lethal lagoon
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I could easily see the playerbase auto kicking psykers if they seem unskilled.

sand moss
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Oh definitely.

lethal lagoon
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There was a time period shortly after beta where people were kicking psyker who didn't run surge.

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Same for Ogryn shield.

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Man, sometimes I forget how dumb the playerbase was for a bit.

sand moss
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Ogryn shield just feels so goofy now

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With latest gunner buff, even the lesser guns do a good chunk of his stam per shot lol

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don't fancy getting shot by a pack of elites with it without using the special or something

ripe obsidian
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I like the heavy attack pattern on Ogryn shield and don't play him enough to know other weapon patterns

lethal lagoon
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To be clear, when I say people thought Ogryn Shield was great, I mean the block feature.

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Ogryn shield heavy attack eventually did get buffed waaay later to be pretty OP

ripe obsidian
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Oh, I mostly use the shield for the taunt on block perk to get shooters to come closer

lethal lagoon
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This was basically a year pre-taunt existing

ripe obsidian
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Fair

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I only got the game after the talent rework. I thought enough Fatshark Time had passed that the game was worth getting

upper sun
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ogryn has zero weapons other than shield

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@lethal lagoon you dont even play ogryn

lethal lagoon
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I play a decent amount of Ogryn

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I just get bored easy because I'm immortal and just plow through games

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Plus spamming heavies hurts my sensitive delicate lady fingers

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Scratch that, ladies have tougher fingers than me

ripe obsidian
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Everything targets me

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Death by a thousand papercuts

lethal lagoon
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I play balls to the wall forward rush psyker. When I suddenly switch to Ogryn, it's like free.

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Just run 180-200 toughness and spam heavies

lethal lagoon
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You would not be able to tell from my hands that I'm a regular weightlifter.

ripe obsidian
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Ogryn is the least fun for me, alas

lethal lagoon
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Sometimes I look in the mirror and then quickly look away.

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Man I really need to finish my home gym. I bought some heavy adjustable dumbells to tide me over covid and never really went back to a full routiune. My bench is probably pitful now

upper sun
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im down to 3 chinup sets from 15

lethal lagoon
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I dunno what you mean by that, but still

left basin
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so how's the MAWUL

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i've been told it's great but There's Better Things

upper sun
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the what now?

left basin
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maul

lethal lagoon
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The new shocky sticky wicky

upper sun
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theyre good

left basin
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darth mol

upper sun
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also unironically the only counter to ragers rn aside from shooting them

lethal lagoon
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Darth Maul? More like Darth Bawl

upper sun
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i just have a pull up bar 😭

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should start doing 1 pull up for everytime i get disabled in a game id get so shreded

left basin
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i just touch myself

lethal lagoon
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Average discord convo

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Meme, personal experience, masturbation.

left basin
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i combine them all on sunny days

lethal lagoon
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Also, the first time I caught a girl leering at me, it was forearms.

upper sun
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my forearms and claves are fine

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i need to do a lot more chest and shoulders tho

potent echo
upper sun
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308lb deadlift and 80 bench is kinda unbalanced

lethal lagoon
sand moss
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thats the one where you rush around to clear the infestations and then hold up at the door typically right?

potent echo
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Yea no more door

lethal lagoon
potent echo
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All infestations are also active at the start, after that you have to turn 4 valves around the map

upper sun
potent echo
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You have a huge ass?

lethal lagoon
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I mean, great for your calves.

upper sun
sand moss
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Bro got a dumpy for sure

potent echo
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That's actually a huge plus

vernal blaze
lethal lagoon
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Oh is it a sumo deadlift?

sand moss
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I was just thinking that Atlas lol

upper sun
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not really

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i usually do hex bar into shrugs with it

lethal lagoon
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According to google A.I the average bench press for a 25 year old woman is 200 pounds

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So get to work

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Jesus google

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Who let you out of your box

upper sun
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we've got a couple of years before ai takes over it seems

vernal blaze
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is perilous combustion ever worth taking outside of maybe purge staff builds

lethal lagoon
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PC is like the most useless on purg

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literally the opposite

upper sun
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its not bad even on surge/void

lethal lagoon
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Purg is like the one build where you can argue you shouldn't take PC

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otherwise it's almost mandatory

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Oh, FYI, warpfire can't trigger PC

vernal blaze
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is soulblaze busted even at that low of stacks then

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i remember using it a hell of a while ago

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and it wasnt that great

upper sun
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PC isnt a low amount of stacks

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kill 2 elites and the third is almost dead

lethal lagoon
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I mean you kill 3-5 elites and everything around them dies. 2 elites for all non-elites to die.

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6 stacks kills all non-elites

lethal lagoon
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It wasn't obviously clear it was an ai generated result

upper sun
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i dont have google ai for some reason

lethal lagoon
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I had to read it over 3 times to realize it was a mistake

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I have a chromebook beside my PC for reading/browsing.

upper sun
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rip

potent echo
upper sun
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I have like 3 adblocks working at any given time

lethal lagoon
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I think legally speaking my chromebook will become 1% slower everytime I open bing

upper sun
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lmao

lethal lagoon
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Oh a chromebook literally can't run without ad block

vernal blaze
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i assume wildfire is paired with it then?

lethal lagoon
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paired with what?

vernal blaze
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the uhh

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fuck

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soulblaze on elite kill

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pc

potent echo
lethal lagoon
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Wildfire is also no go for purg.

potent echo
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PC is good enough by itself

lethal lagoon
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For blaze trauma and creeping flames shriek spam, wildfire can be good

potent echo
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To be in every psyker build

lethal lagoon
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It's contriversal though.

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PC should be in basically every build though yeah.

potent echo
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Till the end of time, or till fatshark changes it

lethal lagoon
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Purg is the one exception where you can argue it's not needed.

potent echo
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Still works on melee and blitz and stacks beyond 15 so it isn't back

upper sun
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eh its still nice when brainbursting

lethal lagoon
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I said argue

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I'm still taking it lmao

upper sun
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also i go EP purge so its kinda cheap

lethal lagoon
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EP BB two shields

upper sun
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now thats some finger hurt

potent echo
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EP BB and shield is fun

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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quickplayed into the new mission 4 times just now

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its so tiresome

lethal lagoon
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It's not some, it's a full set.

vernal blaze
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i love returning players hopping straight into the new mission on auric and dying before they make it even halfway through the first event

lethal lagoon
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If anyone get's my joke I will give you my eternal love.

stiff falcon
lethal lagoon
left basin
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pls rate, bis?

upper sun
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quickplay is dead

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every mission is either poxgas or the new one

rich jolt
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You dont fw fart modifier??

upper sun
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not when i play psyker

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its all zealots and ogryn charging through

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meanwhile two ticks and i have a wound

rich jolt
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Fatshark should make the gasmask cosmetics reduce gas damage🙏

potent echo
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I need more fart modifier for hestia toenails

left basin
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anyone tried the New Attack on obscurus

lethal lagoon
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I'm not really a fan of spin-offs

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(It's still just a bad Deimos or a funky Illy)

rich spindle
vernal agate
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How’s the Mk2 duelling sword tbh

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I’ve got a pretty good roll on it

near wyvern
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Yes

near wyvern
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The H1 does around the same as DS4 heavies now

hollow current
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what a cursed run.
psyker whos damage was 95% smite
mag dump bolter vet who was always red on ammo
???? zealot

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At least the vet had kraks and the psyker had bubble Sitgryn

lethal lagoon
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The psyker's damage here was also 95% smite

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The numbers are so similar

radiant frigate
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slaughterer got a change?

marble crater
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No

hollow current
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I don't know how he did so little.

lethal lagoon
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I saved the screenshot for EP smiter with shriek versus bubble.

hollow current
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Ahhh gotcha. yeah I know smite is powerful in general and with shriek for sure.

marble crater
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The director changes are perfect for EP Smite and shriek, there are so many ragers right now

potent echo
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might consider hammerblow for saul because of so many ragers

lethal lagoon
edgy heart
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I like bubble, screw smite tho

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Boring ass

queen fog
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very cool use of walls, never cooked to stack the blitz buff when using abilities loregryn

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big brain plays

edgy heart
marble crater
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Will change soon enough, of course the new map will be more frequent right after release

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New map is very spicy, so at least it's not boring

edgy heart
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Yeah I really like the new map, but my god am i tired of it

marble crater
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Time to manually select a mission

ivory wharf
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question is it worth taking wild fire if i have purg staff?

marble crater
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I will say it's not needed on purg, because you apply so much already it won't make a big enough difference

ivory wharf
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what blessings are needed for purg staff

marble crater
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Nexus and Flurry

wind spruce
# patent wing tell me more

Staggers the things. You can easily knock ragers out of their attack combos. Crushers are staggered with just a heavy strike down and a light, letting you get use out of SC without the special. Maulers get knocked over from three heavies and are generally more susceptible do SC.

patent wing
wind spruce
wind spruce
stuck sinew
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I noticed Falter staggers ragers n things too and you don't have to stack it

wind spruce
mild junco
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Hello warp enjoyers !
I haven't played the shards since their nerf, and while they were too good before, now I struggle to find them a place in my arsenal.
What are they good for ? What keystone and weaponry should I use with them ?

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Shards being assail, sorry, didn't remember their name

marble crater
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Assail is great with both EP and DD keystones, good for thinning hordes, gunner groups and shooters being around the area

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And good for special sniping from further away

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You can also use them in melee, throw a few and then switch back to melee weapon

brazen rampart
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If you're using them on normal shooters I can understand but it isn't nearly as good as getting closer and spamming a handful, though that's still a lot of peril to be working with.

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25% per dart you throw with target lock.

mild junco
marble crater
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Depending on your build they are your option for that though

brazen rampart
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It's still not a good option.

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I'd much rather bring a zarona or bolt pistol for precise shots like that.

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Hell, a headhunter autogun would work in a pinch.

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Anywho, the other points are good.

mild junco
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Must admit, If i'm playing Psyker, I prefer to go all in on the magic and use a staff

marble crater
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Sure, play a Headhunter on psyker just for specials loregryn

brazen rampart
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Good with those keystones, always pick malefic right underneath assail for that tasty warp damage boost, and swap between melee and darts when there's a bunch of stuff in your face.

mild junco
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So it's a thinner anyway

brazen rampart
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If you like staves then you could use a voidstrike for your long range option.

mild junco
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Throw a bunch of them, switch to melee until peril went down, and then assess the situation again

brazen rampart
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Yes.

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But start with melee for malefic stacks.

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You only need 5 kinetic kills.

mild junco
brazen rampart
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Note that force sword specials are considered warp damage, not kinetic damage.

mild junco
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What the heck is that supposed to do ?

brazen rampart
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Basically it's bonus warp damage when you get kinetic kills.

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Stacks 5 times.

mild junco
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Then duelling sword kinda sucks with this option

brazen rampart
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So gun kills and melee kills that aren't force sword specials count.

mild junco
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Chainsword, maybe ?

brazen rampart
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Dsmk4 is actually perfect to use with this.

mild junco
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How so ?

brazen rampart
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Poke a handful of bad guys, throw darts.

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When malefic is about to run out, poke someone else and throw more darts.

mild junco
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Poke with heavies then ? Just do heretic heads skewers ?

brazen rampart
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Yup.

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This also makes you not sacrifice a very potent anti carapace tool.

mild junco
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Yeah, duelling sword is a powerhouse

brazen rampart
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What ability do you use?

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If you use scrier's then your ds can be even better.

mild junco
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I don't know yet

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I had a scrier, DD, Assail build from very long ago, where the whole gameplay what staring at the edge of the warp constantly

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Very long being maybe a year

brazen rampart
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Yeah, that's still a valid setup.

mild junco
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And I just wasn't sure to do with that

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Because back when I was suggested this build, about 3 weeks after, friend told me it sucks, notably because DD discarded all stacks when the timer was up

brazen rampart
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Personally I think scrier's requires dd to work well, much like shriek cycle requires warp battery.

mild junco
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So just my surge with a good voidstrike

brazen rampart
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Oh no it doesn't lose all stacks anymore.

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You just lose 1.

mild junco
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Yeah I saw that in my game

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Tbh, if I didn't mess up my loadout I wouldn't have found out

brazen rampart
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If you drop below 15 stacks now it's either because people are stealing your marked targets or you're in an airlock.

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Personally, I run bb with scriers and dd.

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But thats because I use a purgatus staff as my secondary.

mild junco
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I play purgatus bb shriek and EP myself

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Very comfy all rounder

brazen rampart
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Very valid. Bb and ep are nasty together.

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I swear I remember ep being stronger, though.

mild junco
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Also, being able to quickly cycle empower bb on a gunner pack is an awesome feeling

brazen rampart
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Like, you only get charges of ep on elite kills, not specialists, yeah?

mild junco
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Yeah

brazen rampart
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I swear I remember that also including specialists.

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Maybe it was unintended or it was a nerf.

mild junco
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Kinda sucks, but at the same time, it would be kinda broken if both were included imo

brazen rampart
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Yeah, anything pingable is typically worth using ep on.

mild junco
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Alright, thanks for all the suggestions lads, imma go back to the drawing board and try something I'll like to use

mild junco
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Transfer Peril, switch to Warp Nexus, and then Ranged damage for specialists ? Maniacs ? Flak ?

marble crater
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Carapace is also an option, you can test breakpoints in the meat grinder

mild junco
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True

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But Carapace is already dealt with Duelling Sword

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So it might be redundant

marble crater
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If you use a dueling sword with that then yeah

mild junco
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Ngl, I don't use anything but a duelling sword on almost all of my psyker's loadout

quartz barn
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i pref flak because it gets more use overall

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carapace is nice and all but crushers are rarely an issue

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  • you can still oneshot them with a surge proc
ivory wharf
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Not sure if this is a weird combo or not but dome shield psyker with purg staff and assial

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Covers all my bases at least thumbsup_ogryn

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From short to long range

haughty star
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I use dome bb ds4 recon 6 and warp siphon

olive ember
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I run BB with purge to help with carapace dmg tbh. That way I’m not reliant on just my melee to deal with crushers. Also that side of the tree has soulblaze talents like wildfire kekw

supple dock
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very safe option

upper sun
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ye empathic evasion has crazy uptime on purge

ivory wharf
supple dock
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like every staff that isn't trauma

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nexus/flurry

upper sun
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nexus flurry

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flurry is is less important

marble crater
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Shout out to the Ogryn who waited to be rescued while a total of 8 different people joined and left after falling off a ledge at the start of the new map KEKW_ogryn

supple dock
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LOL

wind spruce
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Unless something has changed, the point of taking carapace on void was always to reach a one shot with surge

supple dock
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Does psyker have ANYTHING that can 1shot a crusher?

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No right?

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Pretty sure no

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maybe DS4?

wind spruce
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DS4 with scriers and DD

supple dock
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right right

wind spruce
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Void with surge and carapace perk

marble crater
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My incomparable mind can one shot a crusher

supple dock
wind spruce
supple dock
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oh no i hope a big strong ogryn doesn't pound me with his big stick v.v

marble crater
supple dock
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so who saw the absolute clownery in the zealot chat last night

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that shit was wild

wind spruce
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What'd they do this time

supple dock
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basically

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weapon/skill gets nerfed
oh no zealot useless delete the class
wtf are you on about
zealot so weak, vet doesn't get nerfed
what

wind spruce
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Poor babies

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They're so cute (in a very condescending way)

supple dock
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2 people started arguing and then like.. people would join in, argue for a bit, go away, the 2 same people STILL going at it

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i thoroughly enjoyed it, but the brain rot may have been pyrrhic

hearty oak
supple dock
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like sometimes there's useful information

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but everything I've seen so far is that psyker chat is the best place to go for raw information

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mostly because of people like @wind spruce

potent echo
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Was that vetchat or zealot chat

supple dock
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zealot

wind spruce
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Shucks

hearty oak
wind spruce
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I stir zealot chat

supple dock
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and one dude I was in the strike party with

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Just goes IN on people

potent echo
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Zealot chat is the last place I wanna ask something KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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Last time I looked into there they were talking about Destiny heh

supple dock
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The dude held NOTHING back it was amazing the raw aggression lmao

ivory wharf
#

Without some sort of blessing like stripped down

supple dock
marble crater
#

Emphatic Evasion talent

ivory wharf
#

Oh I see

supple dock
#

fire staff has the highest effective crits in the game I believe

marble crater
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It might be very important with the current Ai director KEKW_ogryn

supple dock
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Like even if the crit rate itself isn't like zomg so high

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The sheer rate of fire (hah) will let you just dunk on enemies

night moat
#

I'm still fuckin livid at Hadron RNG over these blessings

supple dock
#

LMB build?

marble crater
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Update will fix it, literally

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No more locks

supple dock
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naw fuck that go lmb

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BE BRAVE

night moat
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"This staff is shaping up to be too good, have the most garbage blessings possible"

night moat
supple dock
marble crater
supple dock
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the update will let you do all 4

ivory wharf
#

So how often do crits proc with purg staff

supple dock
#

the answer is always

wind spruce
#

Do people really be payin' for nitro

night moat
#

Oh wtf? When is that update coming?

supple dock
night moat
#

Sorry, I am not a patch reader. I just came back from a hiatus

ivory wharf
#

Do people really bitch about others having nitro

wind spruce
ivory wharf
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Is this discord server full of whiny little bitches

night moat
#

Every Discord server is

ivory wharf
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Yes to both of those answer

wind spruce
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That's anywhere up to like 20 procs per second

ivory wharf
wind spruce
feral verge
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purga staff is really good

supple dock
#

(high fidelity clip :D)

wind spruce
feral verge
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easiest way to get 1 mil dmg

upper sun
#

bursters should have -999% cleave but only for trapper nets

supple dock
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But even then it's still A tier lmao

night moat
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My purg staff got the quell shaft

wind spruce
supple dock
#

ikik

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But I'm clarifying that you're trolling lmao

feral verge
night moat
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They should let us pay crazy amounts to reroll specific base stats

lunar hollow
supple dock
#

RIGHT?

lunar hollow
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because that guy said stuff like "rending doesn't apply to immo nades"

marble crater
late sapphire
lunar hollow
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which is objectively incorrect

supple dock
#

dude that read was wild

supple dock
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And it kept on going in circles lmao

late sapphire
lunar hollow
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that guy also said 50% tdr doesn't matter when fighting shooters because you lose all your toughness instantly

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so like

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u know

late sapphire
#

I've got some weapons where i collected all of the blessings

supple dock
night moat
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Some guy in here said I'd get a guaranteed T4 warp nexus/flurry on my surge staff last night. Consecrated it, "here, have hit and run"

late sapphire
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And i swear to the high heavens, gods above, all of them that if i get a piddly amount of mastery on those and still have to grind 300h i will pay someone to dump a truckload of steaming shit on the fatshark parking lot

lunar hollow
#

im simultaneously fighting long enough to run out of ammo and thus complaining about having no ammo (i post screenshots where my teammates are all at... half ammo) and also instantly dying to ranged threats

supple dock
#

man I had a guy bitch about no ammo with 3 psykers on the team

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And the dude would NOT shut up

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"PING AMMO WHERES AMMO GUYS I AHVE NO AMMO"

late sapphire
night moat
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Is he playing with a shredder pistol and no accuracy?

lunar hollow
#

thats when u start spamming i need ammo

night moat
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Was he legally blind?

upper sun
supple dock
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I got to the point where I was like

late sapphire
#

I hope fatshark adds some features that let us feed the zels with ammo like momma bird feeds her babies

supple dock
#

bro I know we're psykers but we can't magic ammo up for you

night moat
#

"SUMMON WATER"

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Here, have a flask of cold, refreshing mana water

graceful locust
supple dock
#

When people start doing that I tell the same joke

graceful locust
#

ignore that its been delayed for like a year and a half at this point it's defintely going to release at the end of the summer

supple dock
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"Veteran Challenge: Don't complain about ammo for an entire match. (Difficulty: Impossible)"

haughty star
#

difficulty director is fucking busted rn lol

night moat
#

I actually just ran a damnation maelstrom with 3 vets and not one asked for ammo. It was a weird first match of the day

haughty star
#

i was just doing a regular ass heresy with a buddy and it threw like over 200 ragers at us in one phase lol

supple dock
#

AND THOSE SAME GUYS IN ZEALOT CHAT

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STRAIGHT UP SAID

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flamer is bad

late sapphire
night moat
#

Gunkers lul

graceful locust
#

i mean it definitely ain't good compared to everyother option

supple dock
#

It's a completely fine option compared to other weapons

night moat
#

Flamer does feel underwhelming, tbh.

graceful locust
haughty star
#

a good one

late sapphire
wind spruce
night moat
#

Gunkers are god tier if tuned right

graceful locust
#

a Boring One

haughty star
#

nah

potent echo
#

Flamers is a worse purgatus KEKW_ogryn

night moat
#

Scriers Gaze + Columnus Mk5 = me happy

supple dock
wind spruce
haughty star
#

staff is kinda underwhelming if you're not built directly for it

potent echo
#

Infinite cleave is crazy good regardless

late sapphire
haughty star
#

even runing bb and shield i typically run gun

graceful locust
#

i've never had an issue with surge at least

haughty star
#

eh

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it's okay

late sapphire
#

surge has dps issues

supple dock
#

Surge is good for players who like to play reactively

late sapphire
#

no AoE

haughty star
#

but only really good if you're built for it lol

#

not a good EP weapon for sure

graceful locust
#

i have no idea how to build in this game i just use wahtever sounds fun

marble crater
#

I find surge very good against these insane shooters and gunners right now

late sapphire
haughty star
#

not really

supple dock
late sapphire
#

I SAID

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FUN

supple dock
#

Like it's not the best

night moat
#

I'm just saying, for "burn the heretic" being a core tenet of the Ecclesiarchy, the flamers kinda trash.

Like, when I whip that baby out, I want to see heretics panic and run away while their flesh slides off. Being on fire is honestly so much worse than being shot.

supple dock
#

but it's good

graceful locust
#

surge helped me a ton when i was doing keep your distance

#

nothing could touch me

late sapphire
#

But it's really lacking in burst & aoe damage

supple dock
#

yee

marble crater
#

shriek is your surge aoe

supple dock
#

But you become a monster at killing shooters for free

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And most elites/specialists

graceful locust
#

my usual build is bb, shriek, and empowered with the surge

supple dock
#

not gonna do it immediately but you won't fail at doing it

night moat
#

Now you guys are really making me salty that my surge staff has trash blessings lol

late sapphire
#

When up against larger hordes you end up doing more fire damage by picking off elites than from surge itself

graceful locust
#

many such cases

supple dock
#

surge/smite have crazy synergy

graceful locust
#

wish the loxbury top was black as well

supple dock
late sapphire
graceful locust
#

thanks

upper sun
#

how are we doing on the event?

supple dock
upper sun
#

im at 550

late sapphire
graceful locust
#

i forgot the event is happening i should probably actually do it

upper sun
#

you can do it passively like me

marble crater
supple dock
upper sun
#

just play the game let other people waste their plasteel on new weapons

late sapphire
graceful locust
#

i just straight up forgot to equip the new weapons cause i've been trying to complete psyker penances

late sapphire
#

Nobody else ever used the new weapons

supple dock
night moat
#

I finished the event

late sapphire
#

Rolled an alright saul on zealot i'll go slaughter with a lil bit that should get me up quickly

upper sun
#

nice

graceful locust
#

if fatshark does not fix the issue with penances of certain types not counting towards penances im going to ahve a Brain Aneurysm

supple dock
#

I just wish they'd fix the hit reg issues

upper sun
night moat
#

Brain Aneuryms is the hidden pennace they want all players to achieve.

supple dock
#

More times than I can count on my hands have I stealthed, gone up behind a monster, heavy....and deal 0 damage

upper sun
#

wasted too many resources on the new weapons and gave up tbh

graceful locust
night moat
#

I just want one of the fatshark devs to fuck up the meat grinder one patch and everyone can go in there and farm for penances

marble crater
upper sun
#

I fucking hate the frag box for ogryn so much

supple dock
#

BRO there is NOTHING more tilting than trying to swap to your melee at 100% peril cause you're in a skirmish and can't quell...only for you to not have swapped weapons

wind spruce
supple dock
#

then you LMB and scream

marble crater
graceful locust
#

still waiting for those new classes every quarter

upper sun
#

kek

graceful locust
#

must be misremembering how long a quarter is i don't believe it's two years tho

supple dock
#

oh yeah so in zealot chat I had one guy go "rending isn't really that good" (I'm using ruthless backstab don't @ me)

night moat
#

Guess I'm running with this until I get a better tier blessing

graceful locust
#

correct me if i am wrong

supple dock
#

3 lines later

upper sun
#

its ok once the crafting update is out its gonna be all new content

supple dock
#

"you have no idea how good rending is that's why they're nerfing uncanny"

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Like ?????????

upper sun
#

2029 is gonna be our year dt bros

graceful locust
upper sun
#

totally

night moat
#

Is 69% critical bonus absolute shit or does it not matter as much on surge?

upper sun
#

trust the plan

#

two more weeks

marble crater
#

It's nice

graceful locust
#

i swear people have actual stalkholm syndrome about this game

upper sun
#

where the hell is arco with the surge excel sheet?

supple dock
graceful locust
#

"they just need more time" IT HAS BEEN TWO YEARS

supple dock
#

I'm personally a fan of warp resistance but crit is the "best" dump

night moat
#

Is Pygex's the meta surge build right now?

upper sun
#

aAAAAAAAA new mission again

#

surge meta build is pinned

supple dock
#

I forgot I had this emote

#

it's cute

#

gonna use it more

graceful locust
#

is the new shotgun any good

supple dock
#

I'd rate it high C low B tier

graceful locust
#

great.

night moat
#

I really don't want to give them anymore money, but I like the witches' fingers trinket in the shop. 😓

supple dock
graceful locust
#

they will not get anymore of my money until they stop the Activision-Blizzard tier money grubbng

marble crater
#

I don't want to pay so much for cosmetics, but I also want to look nice throwing

night moat
#

If only they invested as much into fixing the game as they did modeling sick cosmetics

#

Do new cosmetics cycle in at midnight?

graceful locust
#

probably

#

actually I think otsbwrrkltt

#

what

night moat
#

I honestly thought the Magistratum Enforcers looked a bit dumb

graceful locust
#

it's weekly

#

IS THAT WHAT THE YELLOW DUDES WERW?

night moat
#

ya

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Like Space Marines and Mortal Kombat had a baby

supple dock
graceful locust
#

I thought it was a helldiver's collab

supple dock
#

I don't like how the zealot has a tome strapped to the front of the helmet though..

hardy raft
night moat
supple dock
#

And that's my main focus personally, so I run ruthless backstab because I'm a gigachad who wants to always have rending

hardy raft
#

i dont think unyielding has a good damage decompression for uncanny to be extreme

supple dock
#

Hmm. I will test it later

hardy raft
#

but it still buffs the damage past 100% by 4 to 1 ratio i think

#

least i think

supple dock
#

oh?

hardy raft
#

i cant trust fatshar lol

supple dock
#

I hear conflicting accounts

#

so often

wind spruce
#

Uncanny isn't a major buff against unyielding on DS

supple dock
#

"useless past 100%" "extra damage past 100%"

hardy raft
#

it was reworked

supple dock
hardy raft
#

used to give out flat damage buffs p sure

wind spruce
hardy raft
#

but now it just buffs up to the unarmored damage profile and quickly deteoriates

supple dock
#

yeah I need to actually test it

wind spruce
hardy raft
#

yeah i dont trust it either

wind spruce
#

I tested uncanny three vs four

hardy raft
#

it may be just none

#

judging fatshark

#

🤡

wind spruce
#

And the damage increase was tiny

supple dock
#

eh. I can 2shot weakened bosses anyways so I'm not too torn up about it

#

or 4-5 if I get bad crits

#

You know what? I bet you if I asked about 100% ovecapped rending in general chat it'll get some people into some heated arguments

marble crater
#

Instigator

supple dock
hardy raft
#

heard that they used to give out flat increase

#

and then changed up to 100% pen and then anything overflows gets converted into damage at 4 to 1 ratio

#

some people used to use uncanny + backstab to get 220% rending

supple dock
#

Hmm

#

That's my current setup lol

haughty star
hardy raft
#

apprantly finesse boost(precog) deals more damage, but idk

haughty star
hardy raft
#

you probably need to test

supple dock
#

Always got rending no matter where I'm positioned

hardy raft
#

yeah just that rending has kinda low expected damage output

#

and idk if it even actually does more damage

supple dock
#

yeah I'll test dmg later

hardy raft
#

last time i stabbed a dreg gunner i didnt feel much

supple dock
#

dude my heavy attacks don't even kill snipers

#

if I don't crit

#

But thank you for the insight!

#

Will have to look at it later

hearty oak
#

I had two zealots over 3k in my lobby. One of them couldnt compete with the other just flopped with the meta build.

upper sun
#

mogged

hearty oak
#

Also. the talent in warp siphon keystone that increases damage to warp abilities also includes smite, right?

upper sun
#

🤔 doesnt it increase all damage?

hearty oak
#

Prob. Im just not looking at it

#

It works pretty well when im using warp siphon surge staff

#

with the 6 charge

ornate hamlet
#

It's all damage, yeah

hearty oak
#

Right, I had a moment with the build where i was able to get 3 vents off in a single smite last night

#

and of course it was when i had my obs off

#

I thought it was hella fun though. Only falling short at crushers and bosses

marble crater
#

Hunting Grounds moment pogryn

hearty oak
#

Yep

#

It was a pack of hounds came in, then followed by a patrol of shotgunners then follwed with the next pack of hounds

marble crater
hearty oak
#

It was the mission for shutting down the relay in that one early room wit hthe giant globe

patent steeple
#

btw, am I the only one who finds Recon Las to be better than CIAG for gunker just because the Recon has almost zero recoil and access to a crit synergy blessing (Infernus)?

marble crater
#

Smite against hounds is just nice KEKW_ogryn

hearty oak
#

Psyker can just hyperburst down enemies with mind flayer

patent steeple
hearty oak
#

Assail is good. I just like bursting down bosses. having a melee for CC isnt ideal but its fun

#

Also allows me to use bubble shield cause peril isnt an issue.

haughty star
#

also is this useable

#

HOLY SHIT the obscurus is like illisi met ds4 now lol

marble crater
# haughty star also is this useable

You are 1% burn away from max burn stacks, but yeah that's usable, Nexus instead of RunnGun and it's already fine, you can decide if you want to upgrade flak or Flurry to t4 or change Maniac to crit chance or unyielding

vivid osprey
#

why this is happening?

marble crater
#

Bug

vivid osprey
marble crater
#

Gives you more damage after non warp kills

vague solstice
upper sun
#

gunker nerfs

#

fatshark wants to kill gunker

marble crater
#

I don't think the talent is broken, just the tool tip is bugged

marble crater
upper sun
#

we had a good thing going

#

fatshark had to ruin it with rager buffs 😭

thorn cedar
#

im all for it tbh

#

my one critique is perhaps their impact triggers should be lowered so that they are slightly easier to stagger for all classes/weapons

upper sun
#

ragers were fun before i could find them in melee

#

now i'm back to only ranged with ragers

thorn cedar
#

i mean when they did the dodge fix

#

they basically neutered them

upper sun
#

no they were FUN

thorn cedar
#

i guess, they were basically invisible to me

upper sun
#

rager comes at you now what do you do?

#

dodge backwards and shoot it in the head like every other enemy?

thorn cedar
#

well yeah you shoot em, but you got three other players to back off towards

upper sun
#

boring

thorn cedar
#

i'd survive in a corner surrounded by ragers before, and that's not right

#

that's a situation where i should get blasted

upper sun
#

i think u just wanna get blasted and dont care who does it

thorn cedar
#

im never gonna be more breedable than right now

upper sun
#

😳

#

changing my psyker name to Blasted-By-Rager rn

marble crater
thorn cedar
#

but ya the dodge change was good, because it made intuitive sense and the 'double attack per attack' that ragers were executing was not very obvious

#

sadly the result was ragers became incredibly trivial, at least that was my experience

#

two ragers is still manageable, three+ gets spooky and you start spending resources, but that's the point

#

they are there to punish the shit out of you if you're out of position with nothing or no one else supporting you

#

and it's just the one rager type (the weakest) that got buffed

#

if flak ragers were the speedy ones id be like "wtf"

shy prairie
#

me pressing parry and watching the ragers head explode

marble crater
#

Most of my weapons have flak, so flak ragers are the weaker ones as far as I am concerned, I also just run into A LOT more dreg ragers, more often and larger groups

dense valley
#

damn tf fatshark did this time

#

literally cant play shits desynced to hell

thorn cedar
#

on the whole most weapons have much better maniac ADMs than Flak, and even with +Flak your gun is likely to do more DPS against Manaic than Flak

#

Crit is the one big X factor there

#

and as a zealot, my throwing knife gets much more mileage against dreg than scab ragers

marble crater
#

Maybe I play the weapons where it doesn't matter then KEKW_ogryn

haughty star
#

obscurus is fucking cracked lol

marble crater
#

loregryn tell me more

haughty star
#

it's like actually a happy medium between deimos and illisi now

hearty oak
haughty star
#

the h1 drops pretty much every special or lesser elite in one tap

#

haven't tested in psykaneum but it's awesome in application

hearty oak
#

I try to stay away from the psykanium. Place gives you a false idea of how games are gonna go unless I want to get into the rotation of a build

haughty star
#

mines not optimal either, i got unstable and slaughterer 3 and i still like it better than my best illisi or deimos

#

for either job that they do respectively

marble crater
#

Guess I will see if I can fix one of mine and give it a test on my surge build, not like I use the illisi a lot there anyway KEKW_ogryn

haughty star
#

lmao

#

lately i been using the sword alot more on that build with how cracked the dd is

#

difficulty director

hearty oak
#

What did they do the mk2?

marble crater
#

Dueling sword? Buffed the heavy to be almost the same as DS4

hearty oak
#

Force sword

haughty star
#

ds2 is poke one and slash two now

#

they buffed h1

hearty oak
#

I know the mk2 DS got a very nice buff

feral verge
#

maniac on melee

marble crater
#

I don't know the marks on force swords staregryn

haughty star
#

h1 deals like deimos damage now

feral verge
#

peak purga combo

haughty star
#

that was always the problem with obscurus was that it was a UNHAPPY medium between illisi and dei

hearty dagger
#

Ngl i hope Psyker gets a good helmet, or at least something like the hood the psyker was wearing in Astartes

lunar hollow
#

gonna lie, i hope psyker gets a good helmet

feral verge
#

i HATE all those posers who pretend that they want a new helmet

hearty dagger
#

It's funny how Psyker usually has the best chestpieces, but the worst helmets

marble crater
#

I want a new helmet, for free though

granite mauve
#

the overcoat psyker got with the enforcer stuff

#

best trenchcoat they added

hearty dagger
#

That overcoat is p2w as hell, makes the bolt pistol feel way better for some reason

granite mauve
#

full cloth physics and you get those knight metal gauntlets in first person

hearty dagger
#

Honestly miffed that we got a shitty oubliette instead of

#

Honestly, anything

#

Considering it's a parade dress (the coat), you'd think you'd have something like a decorated helm but no, it's just a shitty collar

marble crater
rain meadow
#

purg staff, what should i get on it?

cloud sequoia
#

is it me or purgatus have flamer sfx

#

its very annoying

marble crater
feral verge
#

exactly this

azure karma
#

im trying the surge staff smite build but smite doesnt seem to do shit and i always end up running out of peril

upper sun
#

damn

#

this is the first time i ever lost a baross end event

azure karma
#

idk what that is

upper galleon
#

And grabbing PC and venting flames?

azure karma
#

i just followed the build in the guide

analog agate
#

Cause smite is bad. Smite with venting flames is good though. Because venting flames is good.

upper galleon
#

EP smite isn’t bad cause fatshark keeps buffing it for the LCDs

thorn cedar
#

for some FUKKEN REASON

azure karma
#

can assail still clear hordes?

upper galleon
#

Assail is good for gunker, smite can hordeclear longer and more targets (and more low tier elite targets aka mixed hordes)

azure karma
#

is there a vid showcasing it bc i cang seem to make it work

#

using shriek to make flames just nothing dies still

haughty star
#

It barely even needs uncanny loregryn

upper galleon
#

Whatever the case i’m going to wkae up and find my psyker build

upper sun
#

uncanny goes on everything

mild bear
#

probably a dumb question, but what perks are good for a Surge staff? I've been running crit chance + crit damage for a while but i feel it isn't performing the best it could

analog agate
#

Flak is the must. Elite can allow some early breakpoints or maniac

upper sun
#

crit damage is bad on everything for surge you want flak with crit chance/elite/maniac

analog agate
#

Much of the staff depends on randomness though

azure karma
upper sun
mild bear
marble crater
upper galleon
azure karma
#

should i grab this

patent steeple
#

Backstab is not worth it outside of stealth vet/zealot imo, and the perks are seemingly very bad

azure karma
#

so smite with shriek is a better mixed horde clear than assail?

upper galleon
#

Im just being stuck in bed

patent steeple
upper galleon
#

I have some bad chronic fatigue from a head injury

patent steeple
upper galleon
patent steeple
marble crater
marble crater
#

Obscures moveset is not for me

loud garnet
vague solstice
# loud garnet

You look like my psyker except his color scheme is white and red

hearty oak
#

Stealing my drip

#

and surely not anyone else cause of how good looking it is

vague solstice
#

That Illisi Resolver Harness just goes too hard

brazen rampart
#

Sir you are wearing a wife beater.

neat sage
#

is gun psyker still meta :(

#

havent played psyker in a few patches

loud garnet
#

It's still powerful

neat sage
#

lame

hearty dagger
neat sage
#

what is there 2 keep up with gun psyker

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I play psyker to do psyker things

azure karma
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What is dump stat for voidstrike ataff

analog agate
azure karma
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quell speed too?

analog agate
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It can be. Especially if you take the talent which increases quell speed

neat sage
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scryers gaze crit voidstaff i would say peril resistance because u want to be at high peril

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I could be wrong though cuz again I havent touched psyker in so long

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I have neglected it because it just feels bad to play imo

late night
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ik this has probably been asked a million times but cant find answer thru search

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what blessings/perks on deimos

neat sage
late night
neat sage
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uhh

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idk I think I have a bis I used to but I cant remember

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if I still have it

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I dont have 1 and I cant remember off the top of my head sorz

late night
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are either of these salvageable

patent steeple
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btw, I was just in a game of 2 other psykers and a vet.

the reason why I am telling you about this, is because once we heard a DH, the vet called it "mommy", and I found that very funny for some reason.

the conversation then shifted into me pointing out that trapper could be called mommy instead of DH, and eventually once the game spawned a bunch of hordes and we almost lost, one of the other players typed something like, "that horde was definitely the game giving us a bonk for being too unwise"

marble crater
late night
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wasnt planning to

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just getting a little bored of dueling sword

marble crater
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Then you can replace it with slaughterer, or executor for memes.
And replace flak or elite with maniac, not sure which

upper galleon
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EP smite build i use DS4+ surge this is just an example

stone totem
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I need to make a Hakari edit with the RNG BR upgrade

patent steeple
stone totem
patent steeple
patent steeple
dense valley
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yooo just got this after a game

marble crater
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Free uncanny t4, nice

dense valley
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almost usable if not for the first target roll damn

late night
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is it just lights for hordes

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and then heavy spam for elites

dense valley
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i always tryna mix in heavy 1 for horde clear

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for elite light then heavy 2 I guess

marble crater
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Usually you would pair it with a horde clearing ranged weapon and not use it for them

late night
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so hows thje combo work

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one light, one heavy, repeat?

marble crater
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But yeah, spam lights, works well enough

late night
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gotcha

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just using surge atm

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so

dense valley
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heavy then light x3