psyker-class

[cosmic sigil]

works on rmb and apparently only on big target on lmb

[upper sun]

I love the asian servers they always brick the maps first

[potent echo]

They are singlehandedly keeping the game alive in my region

Which part of the map is this, arena?

[upper sun]

ye mercantile arena

bruh those people should play test

not the assholes that added trash shooters to the sides of the entrance in smelter complex

🤓 ummmm we should remove the first fence so the reaper can get a few cheap shots at players when they drop down so they know what spawn camping feels like

[hearty oak]

Yeah like who would have known standing in the gates of the arena where the ads flood in from freezes the AI to not knowing what to do

What manacle person would think of doing so

[potent echo]

Language barrier

[upper sun]

eh im sure "this fucked" and "this bad" is universal or at least easy enough for google translate

[upper sun]

knew a guy who was speed running assassination missions for the frame before it got reduced

[potent echo]

I think playtesting goes beyond boolean for feedback

[upper sun]

guy bricked the map in like 5 different ways

[upper sun]

well you can have the theory crafters and the quality testers

[potent echo]

I guess that video itself is good enough

I've seen so other clips many patches ago

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/8/f/8feefb728ad758e2dc9e7cb9bde4bb4439d6d76e.mp4

[potent echo]

Man's just at extraction

[upper sun]

it gets worse

[potent echo]

Stuck forever

I saw one guy standing at the extraction during trainyard defense once lmao

[upper sun]

consignment yard?

that jump is kinda easy

i used to jump assassination boss to finish the mission faster if my team took too long

[hearty oak]

I knew a guy who had most of the mission frames before they reduced the required amount

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/6/d/6d0b568d0f9451ef6eeb2433a78812f482abc041.mp4

oh my god this dude bricked another map

[potent echo]

Real?

[upper sun]

ye

[potent echo]

I've definitely seen someone do this lmao

[upper sun]

ive seen telo do it on stream

[potent echo]

You need a noife?

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/a/d/ad82feaee32261a98f912701a66e5b9595beaa33.mp4

[upper sun]

i think so

[potent echo]

Ahh

The slide off a ledge thing

But the problem is you're just stuck there lol

[upper sun]

i think if you dont do the event the boss doesnt need to spawn

[potent echo]

🤔

[orchid shadow]

I'm surprised there's no kill volumes in there. When I was working on collision for some games, last thing I would do in a task was layer in collision with kill properties to screw anyone trying to clip into objects.

[upper sun]

bro i was getting pissy about this https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/d/b/db649894c5b00c27825a2166dc36bd5beebb1fa4.mp4

idk how theyre doing it but the entire game is so pointy

so many steps and ramps you can just get stuck on

[hearty oak]

But they dont expect you to differ from the normal path players take

[upper sun]

THEY JUST ADDED THIS PATH IN THIS PATCH

ofc i was gonna take it

[hearty oak]

YOU WERENT

SUPPOSED TO WALK THERE

[upper sun]

THEN WHY WAS IT MADE?

[hearty oak]

TO GIVE YOU THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

[orchid shadow]

They changed a bunch of stuff in the older missions. I feel I have to relearn the maps again so I can figure out where the hell I'm getting shot at.

[hearty oak]

I know. Replacing the ladder with boxes at the end of that one ammo run mission

[upper sun]

consignment yard now has trash shooters on the side as soon as you step in

and the fence that was stopping the reaper is removed THANKS TELO

i just realized i do have a video of it

this fence got nerfed

and trash shooters here

i hate this since this area was chill and i could just pick up plasteel and join the team no problem

[dark swift]

Is this worth 2.8k for the IV Blessing?

[upper sun]

trauma doesnt have too many t4s so shouldnt be that bad to roll

[balmy kestrel]

how’s this beauty?

[upper sun]

burn needs to be 76% at least 😭

[hearty oak]

Cloud radius is a tad low

[upper sun]

that too

but now you have flurry 4 at least

[balmy kestrel]

so far it’s been treating me well

not great at killing elites but that’s what brain rupture is for

[hearty oak]

As long as it serves you well, thats all that really matters

[balmy kestrel]

i think psyker might also be my new favourite class

[upper sun]

psyker and zealot are the only classes in the game

[sacred crane]

It should be good at killing everything besides crushers, also critical damage is ehhh and like everything else said, burn reaches its full potential at 76% and cloud radius kinda low

I recommend switching crit damage for maniac or elite

[lethal lagoon]

Or 5% crit chance.

[balmy kestrel]

alright

[sacred crane]

or this yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Crit damage is calculated funny in this game, and purg crits don't do a lot of damage in the first place.

the crit does apply two stacks of the dot though

[sacred crane]

purg crits are meant for more stacks

since your stacks will be carrying majority of your damage over time

[balmy kestrel]

i forgot to take a picture of my psyker drip

[clear bridge]

O G R Y N G A M I N G

This guys forgetting the best class

[upper sun]

ogryn will not be a class until they fix mantling

[bold cape]

ogryn being twice the height of the other characters yet not being able to climb over the same obstacles is sad

[hardy raft]

the what

[upper sun]

climbing over shit

[cosmic sigil]

obscurus so good guys

best new weapon ❤️

[cosmic sigil]

ogryns and dogs...

[lethal lagoon]

Ogryn scared of heights. Ogryn no climb rails

[haughty star]

What'd they do to it

[cosmic sigil]

they buffed h1

like massively

[haughty star]

I've never swung it

[vagrant onyx]

Didn't it also have stronger specials vs deimos

Well doesn't matter

[upper sun]

nah just cooler

[vagrant onyx]

As long as deimos thrust knocks things on their ass it'll be better

[clear bridge]

The process of assuming a deity's identity - one of the Walking Ways

[hardy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/zacxion-zacxiometro-kratos-gif-25432373

[clear bridge]

Gotta be a specific one tho

Ofc

Wearing it like a mantle

[vagrant onyx]

I like to use all of a weapon

[clear bridge]

...Think shivering isles

[cosmic sigil]

that feels like a bug tbh

[hearty oak]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-gmod-gmod-ragdoll-ragdoll-sus-gif-21005701

[hardy raft]

yeah vet is zealot mk2

and by mk2 it means better

[clear bridge]

Biggest & meanest, bro

Find a team more efficient than four Gunluggers

An impossible challenge

assuming they have ammo assuming they have ammo assuming they have ammo

[vagrant onyx]

3 gluggers and a vet

Damn

[hardy raft]

4 gunkers

duh

[clear bridge]

Okay nobody told me Gunker cooks

Gunker actually rules

I thought it was a meme build

Everyone spoke of it like it was a joke

It's like... a really viable and fun class

[hollow current]

Gunker is god

[vagrant onyx]

It's a joke if you can't headshot

[hearty oak]

Mileage varies from user-to-user

[bold cape]

gunker is great
scriers and dd put a lot of power into a ds4
don’t even need to burn ammo when your melee is insane

[hearty oak]

Also the only class that made recon fun before it got buffed

[vagrant onyx]

I really wish Psykers could use bolter

[clear bridge]

Oh yeah DS4 is what I'm mainly thinking

I'm not bad at shooting anymore but uhhh

[hearty oak]

S H O T G U N S

Where they be??

[bold cape]

remove all class locked weapons
surely there will be no balance consequences whatsoever

[vagrant onyx]

Lmao shotguns

It's funny what they decided the humans can and can't have

[bold cape]

ds4 is peak
tho i do suck at aiming so sometimes ill stab the air next to the dudes head lmao
..more often than id like to admit

[clear bridge]

My melee aim is peak

It happens, gamer

No hate no hate

[hollow current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1203943108518223912/mauler_patrol.mp4?ex=667da8a5&is=667c5725&hm=fcf440ee1c88c0082675ae66950e1705a4ce68662e90c10c232548db54a01aca&
just freakin' poking them

[upper sun]

vet is just the class for bots

[bold cape]

vet is the class to play when i want to be able to pay the least amount of attention as possible

i was going to drop this game completely until the itemization update but considering the mastery continue-over i may stick around a bit

[untold niche]

Huh who did

[potent echo]

The update won't even affect me because I already have everything I ever want

[untold niche]

What if they add something new that you want

Imagin

New cool staff

||||

[bold cape]

mfw only 220 hrs playtime

[hardy raft]

which is why its a better zealot

[ornate hamlet]

hoLY GOD Scriers Gaze gonna make me go UUGGNNG

[hollow current]

https://tenor.com/view/raingump-kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-gif-26528408

[untold niche]

Also gui when crafting update out let's play together

❤️

[lethal lagoon]

You got iguinored

[cosmic sigil]

zealot best clutcher tho

but vet makes it so you don't have to clutch

[wind spruce]

Beautiful

[lethal lagoon]

Keep the meatbags alive with shout and just dps everything down

[upper sun]

https://streamable.com/8vnr0e
i love purge so much bros

[silver portal]

Hello my psykers with boltpistols where u at?

[ornate hamlet]

Sup

[silver portal]

Hello bruzzah

[ornate hamlet]

Nice, I love that Pisonic Empowerment, so good for BB.

[ornate hamlet]

I wonder if you use it how I use it.

[silver portal]

Yes shoot everything to watch them explode?

[ornate hamlet]

I think so. I have blessing one: Bigger AOE with more close range damage and Blessing 2: Apply bleed to all ranged hits.

Bleed bomb.

used for horde clear and crowd control to impact stagger ragers too so I can stab them in the head.

[silver portal]

Oh no i play with surgical and snipe elites. I haven’t gotten any damage tier 4 bless yet

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah I have the AOE at IV and the bleed at 3.

Its fun though!

[silver portal]

Can’t wait for them to unlock them locks

[cosmic sigil]

https://youtu.be/j05S62F-MCs?si=B1YxOefmcLSqUPwY

[ornate hamlet]

For me, I aim at their feet.

[silver portal]

Im literally watching this rn lol

[ornate hamlet]

Have you checked out the double shotgun? Amazeballs.

[silver portal]

It doesn’t seem worth to me, lets the elites get too close and the squishies overwhelm

I’m probably using it wrong tho

[ornate hamlet]

Like I said, I use it as a flaylock pistol from DUST 514, you should check that video out for context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrMEb9q4fW4

5:45

[silver portal]

Hmm yes i too now belive in bleed surgical pistol

[cosmic sigil]

am i the only finding the music too loud compared to the voice?

or am i getting old?

[silver portal]

I feel like the ingame shooting/sound cues are louder imo

[cosmic sigil]

i am talking about the video 😄

[placid pike]

Are these still decent? (I havent played in a while)

[silver portal]

Oh lol no i found it normal. I do believe the topic of nerf revolver to not kill on body while bolt pistol should

[cosmic sigil]

revolver should be nerfed a bit yeah

like, remove pen

[silver portal]

You need tier 4 blessings on everything if you want the best but gear doesn’t really matter if ur good enough

[placid pike]

I'm looking into a more CC based build for my psyker.
thanks regardless

[lilac summit]

https://youtu.be/Q2rECqgcqJI?si=zOZd22hNR6882Vp-

dont know if someone pointed this out before

[spice veldt]

if that's the default psykh healthbars, then crits are orange now

and weakspots are yellow

they got reversed

[hearty dagger]

So here's that 380 shockmaul

[lilac summit]

turns out my reading comprehension is just terrible

thanks

[spice veldt]

it is a preeeeetty confusing change

[hearty dagger]

So turns out shockmauls, at least agni variant can get opportunist?

[potent echo]

Both share blessing pool

[tame venture]

man, first time playing is some months, jumped right in as scryer's gaze build with the shotgun. it wasn't great lol

shockmaul feels decent on psyker, if not a bit overtuned tbh

there hasn't been any signifigant things to change in builds since pre update, no?

[quartz barn]

Dont think so no

[tame venture]

that's good to hear, not all my stuff will be bricked then lol

[potent echo]

DD will make any melee feel great on psyker

Saul is properly fine though

[rigid sky]

Crowd control or close combat lol

[quartz barn]

Since when does cc refer to close combat what

[ornate hamlet]

that would be cqc

[lethal lagoon]

You know what they were referring to

[marble crater]

Credit card

[vestal fulcrum]

I have tried the changed Obscurus

It’s… good? Like genuinely good.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-gif-24248233

[vestal fulcrum]

I don’t have to deal with the shitty ass 40 stagger H2 on Deimos anymore and can actually nail good single target combos without jankiness

The bad: horde clear with it is still fairly nasty

Either you do L1 into H2, block cancel and repeat, or you suffer

[marble crater]

So what, it's a better deimos now?

[vestal fulcrum]

It's a Deimos that has a more readily available single target damage

[marble crater]

That sounds wrong, what do we meme about now?

[vestal fulcrum]

Not Obscurus

We can meme on DS2

[marble crater]

But DS2 is also good now

H1 is the same damage as DS4

[vestal fulcrum]

Wait what

WHY

[radiant frigate]

obscurus gang

[lethal lagoon]

I can't make fun of ds2 users anymore?

[vestal fulcrum]

Obscurus gang.

[lethal lagoon]

Okay that's the last the straw.

[vestal fulcrum]

[radiant frigate]

imagine having to wait for h2 when you can just have an overhead h1

[lethal lagoon]

See you all next crafting update.

[radiant frigate]

that's hot

[marble crater]

Because they buffed it
I tested it on my surge build, good against muties, mobility and still okay-ish for horde clear, compared to the DS4

The H2 is still awkward af though

[vestal fulcrum]

Atlas, so what do you think on the new Obscurus?

[lethal lagoon]

I've been playing Elden Ring

I only popped in to test the new shotgun

hated it

And then popped out

[vestal fulcrum]

Respectable

[marble crater]

[patent wing]

any1 tried the saul?
is it good horde clear + can handle cara`?

[vestal fulcrum]

Not yet, but it’s looking like a flexible and a fun weapon

[wind spruce]

its shite against cara

but excellent horde clear

[patent wing]

damn i had hopes when looking at the 20% rendin blessin

[wind spruce]

i havent actually tested it with that

i dont think you can get it to work on crushers

maulers should be ok

[patent wing]

maybe with special

[wind spruce]

the rending adds about 60 damage on top of 420, non crit

so like 13% extra

every second heavy bonk will have it go off on maulers

[patent wing]

whats the mod called where i can test things in psyk

[wind spruce]

and yeah you can get like 4 hits in while theyre staggered from the special

better than i thought

Creature Spawner

[patent wing]

ah ty
nah thers another mod that allows you to customize weapons with all blessings and stats

[wind spruce]

Loadout Config

[patent wing]

cant find it

[restive ice]

in the darktide modders discord
#1170359714027155608 message

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/Ved0N4

@patent wing not as bad as i thought

almost four shot it, thats with no buffs and skullcrusher plus opportunist

[patent wing]

i got loudout config now brb not playing game no more

psyk only

[restive ice]

welcome to the real endgame

[wind spruce]

lmao they changed the name of the blessing in the hotfix?!

it was called entropic yesterday (lightning reflexes)

[patent wing]

but its a 80 80 80 80 60 saul xx with cara and weakspot dmg

@wind spruce

[wind spruce]

very nice

same blessings as me @patent wing ?

[patent wing]

yes

[wind spruce]

oh youre using agri

which i think has better single target that indignatus

[stark notch]

What blessings? Skullcrusher and HV?

[patent wing]

opportunist and skullcrusher

[stark notch]

Ohhh, interesting, thanks

[patent wing]

yeah well it needs 4 hits most of the time, same as ds

[ornate hamlet]

????????

[patent wing]

agni is straight up better, L1H1 better waveclear pattern and H1 is a strikedown

[wind spruce]

oh no

that bug means you gotta delete your character

[ornate hamlet]

cap

[wind spruce]

no cap

[ornate hamlet]

i do not believe u

[wind spruce]

good move

[wind spruce]

other people been hyping the indignatus, h1l2 is great for horde clear on it

not sure how the agri could be better in that department

[devout sluice]

ok they dropped the ball with psyker headgear smh

[patent wing]

u mean indignatus?

[wind spruce]

yeah my brain dead atm sorry

@ornate hamlet it just be a ui issue, sorry for being unhelpful

[ornate hamlet]

lol ur fine, it's not a major issue and I enjoying trolling myself

what does that talent actually do tho

[wind spruce]

+4 warp damage on non-warp kill, stacks 5 times

lasts 10s iirc

[quartz barn]

I think it has to do with the way they package updates, sometimes descriptions like that get lost in the process

Love a 200mb download that has to reformat 40gb

[wind spruce]

@patent wing you get almost as much benefit from high voltage as opportunist, i was hitting 859 with opportunist then 825 with HV

and HV will affect more targets

[ornate hamlet]

wanna do penances but that means using smite :((((((((((((((((

[patent wing]

882 yes

[hardy raft]

opp is useless

cause the maul has

stupid amount of AP pen

only thing it sucks against is like

maniac

but HV basically does what Opp does

but better

and is more easy to proc

[wind spruce]

yeah the numbers are gonna be slightly diff cos im not using loadout conf

[wind spruce]

yeah you're right

[wind spruce]

atm machine

[hardy raft]

max maul has like

[patent wing]

the stun on impact is kinda useless too

[hardy raft]

107% flak ADM

and

90% Carapace

[patent wing]

because it doesnt stun

[hardy raft]

you dont need rending

[hardy raft]

its for HV

[wind spruce]

h2l3 goes hard af on the indignatus

super quick attack pattern

[patent wing]

wdym

[hardy raft]

high voltage

[wind spruce]

the lightning that doesnt stagger will proc high voltage while its active

[patent wing]

yeah but hv stuns at its own with out that stun perc

[wind spruce]

high voltage is the damage while stunned blessing

[patent wing]

yeah i meant the special sry

[hardy raft]

oh you mean the

stagger to stun blessing

yeah dump that

its useless

only blessing i care about is HV/SC and the parry blessing

parry blessing if you wanna go exotic

and the afformentioned stuff if you go for consistency

[wind spruce]

@patent wing
https://outplayed.tv/media/EZrVaV

thats with this guy

[patent wing]

88k plasteel 💀

[wind spruce]

I had 200k when the patch dropped

and 14 million dockets

[patent wing]

ur right indignatus is faster

like 1 sec

[hardy raft]

indig has the bneefit of

being able to spam heavy for single target

agni doesnt have that luxury

[wind spruce]

Is that even better than h2l3?

[hardy raft]

idk

its p good

[wind spruce]

I got a slightly better ttk on that crusher than with h2h3

[hardy raft]

heavyspam?

huh.

neat

[wind spruce]

Yeah h2h3 as in heavy spam (because h1 is the horizontal)

[hardy raft]

does h3 lead off somewhere

i dont like how the ingame desc convinently misses that the h3 exist

[wind spruce]

H3 goes into an overhead light

[hardy raft]

when its present in achylis

least i think it exists

not sure.

hm

[patent wing]

nah i think heavy light is better

[untold niche]

[wind spruce]

theres three potential single target attack patterns

h2h3, h2l3 or l2h3 (all infinitely repeating)

pretty sure h2l3 is the best

[hardy raft]

agni can do H1LLLH1

its funny.

[wind spruce]

oh thats nice

[hardy raft]

any H1LH1 works

[wind spruce]

lol because of SC/HV the l2 does more than the h1

[hardy raft]

L can happen up to 3 times and then it goes into a diagonal swing

its funny.

[wind spruce]

ya i just tried it

[hardy raft]

since i dont have SC i think spamming Heavys should be fine

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/EZrdya
these are the indignatus patterns

[patent wing]

the problem is that deimos almost 2 shots a crusher with l1h1

and has p good hordeclear with l1 spam

[hearty dagger]

So i was thinking right

"Swagger sounds really familiar, where did i hear that voice before?"

I thought maybe intro grendyl scene but no, the voice kept changing iirc

He just has the same VA as the cyberware doc guy from Necromunda: Hired Gun

[patent wing]

and the deimos has a knockdown on h2 so i guess deimos > crusher

[hardy raft]

eh

[patent wing]

yeah just light spam

[wind spruce]

And the problem with deimos is that the duelling sword exists

[patent wing]

yeah but duel swords do less dmg

i can kill a crusher faster with deimos

[hardy raft]

no you dont.

[wind spruce]

Duelling sword can consistently 2-3 shot

And doesn't have a useless l3 in the combo

[patent wing]

2-4 shots on ds4

2 very rare

4 hits with deimos, including the "useless" hits

ok its not as fast as 3 hit ds

3.5sec vs 4sec

but with deimos i have horde clear

and with stacked slaugther it might be faster even

[elder parrot]

Deimos build 5 stacks of rend though if you charge the L1 then break it off with a dodge.

[wind spruce]

Not 5

[elder parrot]

That's my goto. 2 tap nearly anything.

Oh? 4 then I guess. Sorry. I just always did max on second stab.

Does the 2nd attack register the rend on its own dmg or what?

[patent wing]

u mean a sideway dodge to hit multiple enemies with one stab?

[wind spruce]

Nah they mean the special

Stacks uncanny four times

[elder parrot]

Nah. When it gets stuck it rapidly builds on hit stacks.

[patent wing]

3 stacks for me

just tried it

[elder parrot]

Uncanny on the Deimos?

Maybe I'm misremembering. Or it's changed. Coulda sworn.

[patent wing]

ye but maybe better

[elder parrot]

It's not working for any other on hit interactions I tried either.

Oh, wait. The guaranteed crit on 5 stacks

[patent wing]

stacked ds4 with rampage and uncanny cant 2 tap a crushers even with weakspot dmg + cara on a 400 base stat weapon

[elder parrot]

Works on that.

3 or 4 stacks as well.

[patent wing]

it survives with 100hp

or 200 idk very close

anyway deimos can handle hordes AND 2 tap crushers (given stacked), can open up bulwarks so its better than ds4

the only reason to use ds4 over deimos is; you already have a horde clear staff and it has better use against bosses

[wind spruce]

it is not better than ds4 lol

mobility is a key factor

[patent wing]

there are scenarios where u cant use mobility most maps often have narrow spots

then i might be better use deimos block+knockdown

[elder parrot]

Don't forget the 14 yard push range.

[wind spruce]

There's a reason ds4 is THE psyker melee

And it's not because it's inferior to deimos

There's more scenarios where mobility is more useful than deflector and force push

[patent wing]

nah thats not a valid reason

[elder parrot]

Meh... I disagree.

[patent wing]

many games have routes or champs that are not meta until discovered and so on

[summer prairie]

there's no way ds4 is safer than deimos in any scenario

[elder parrot]

Solo flying escapist's shank is good in a pug

[wind spruce]

That is laughably untrue

[elder parrot]

If you have a good team that holds their angles you won't need to juke as much.

[wind spruce]

There are plenty of scenarios where the mobility gives you more safety

[summer prairie]

the slightly better mobility does not make up for the lack of deflector if we are comparing purely the defensive options

[wind spruce]

The mobility also plays into your offensive capability

[elder parrot]

Yes. But mobility when unconstrained is rarely killing you anyway.

[wind spruce]

It is not slightly better dude

[summer prairie]

yes it is

[wind spruce]

Ok, this is pointless

[elder parrot]

No it's not

[wind spruce]

When someone states that the difference in mobility is slight

Then, yeah, no more point in the discussion

[restive ice]

im out here strokin my force sword i got warp juice on my force sword im a freak fr

[elder parrot]

Gainsaying based on anecdotal evidence is what the internet is all about.

At least its not yet another football debate.

[patent wing]

even without stacks the difference in killing a crusher between the 3 ds hits and 4 deimos hits(1 light) is not even 1 second

[wind spruce]

Nothing worse

[patent wing]

• can argue the knockdown at hit2 is more valuable

[elder parrot]

Eh. I had an argument once with a girl who insisted animals got confused by swapping from summer to winter time and vice versa.

It's close at least.

[patent wing]

any for me the most important point is that i have good waveclear, and with DD it plays like an illisi

[wind spruce]

LMAO

That's like taking the "its for the farmers" argument to a whole new level of stupid

[elder parrot]

So many links broken in that chain of logic. Starting with "The sun don't... Rise earlier when we reset the clocks?" To "But animals don't own watches! And they can't read the time! And even if they did and could... Deer can't look at their wrists with their necks unbroken..."

[marble crater]

I can kind of understand the argument for pets, because of different times for food and going on a walk

[elder parrot]

Nah. I wish. Her main evidence was the increase in road kills... You know. When everyone gets up and into their cars 1 hour earlier than usual.

Cause' "the animals have an internal natural clock and when we change the time it confuses them"

[wind spruce]

I hope you removed her from the gene pool

[elder parrot]

It's my sister. I'm kinda in for a penny and a pound assuming we share the bets placed.

Maybe her logic has some niche applications use case in... I dunno... String theory I bet.

[marble crater]

Then the argument should have been it's confuses them because of the increase in cars at an early hour along the lines of "it's still safer now" and then suddenly cars sooner

[wind spruce]

That means you must remove yourself from the gene pool

Sorry, I don't make the rules

[marble crater]

Your sister's heart seems to be in the right place though, in that she cares about animals, so that's good

[elder parrot]

Ah. You're making the same mistake I do. Using logic is like bringing a field paper to a WWE cage match.

[elder parrot]

Maybe there's the point. Too much logic and you grow into a cynic.

[patent wing]

im testing the new shotgun with scattershot and manstopper; so far ive one-tapped 66 renegade-assault units

any bets how high it goes?

[queen fog]

Uh, yes

This thing is honestly the doom eternal shotgun excluding the hook at the bottom when it comes to its damage

[patent wing]

122

[queen fog]

Beautiful stuff

Very useful info

[patent wing]

32 berserkers

48 flamers

[quartz barn]

What are the go to blessings for it?

I assume reload speed and some power boost

Havent crafted any yet so dont know the pool

[magic hull]

new shotgun?

[queen fog]

yes, its a double barrel

is pretty fun

[patent wing]

i dont really like it on psyker tho

[wind spruce]

it hasnt grabbed me on psyker either

but i havent tried it w/ manstopper yet

[near wyvern]

With any moderate buffs (warp charges, +maniac, etc.) you can one tap mutant heads with the double barrel unload at short ranges. That's pretty fun.

[hearty oak]

Think it stops short of flak ragers doesnt it?

[patent wing]

so you are telling me i can kill 10 incoming muties in one shot

[near wyvern]

The new Bolt pistol also seems to be the better Agripinaa revolver for Psykers. They have around the same amount of ammo but the Bolt pistol when paired with Warp Battery and the +4 bleed per hit (maxes out at 4 hits) can one tap all humanoid specialist heads with +maniac on it. It will also 4 tap reapers and 2 tap ragers, 1 taps gunners and shotgunners on head.

[near wyvern]

A bit yes but you have to aim for the head and you want +flak on it. Terrible at mid range and beyond tho against anything else than groaners and poxies.

[patent wing]

the problem with the bolt pistol is that to 4 tap a reapers head you need like 10 seconds at anything than close range because the reset tages ages

[hearty oak]

Well... ragers in general. Dreg ragers are inconsistent for me

[near wyvern]

Don't think so. There is damage reduction after each target hit. At least the first one is insta gibbed, haven't tested many standing in a conga line

[patent wing]

no i killed 32 berserkers with one shot

[near wyvern]

You don't need 4 head shots to one tap it if you have +4 bleed per hit and 6 warp charges

[patent wing]

istnt dd better with it

[wind spruce]

Warp charges is easier for testing

[near wyvern]

Didn't have time to test that much yet. Only had 1 hour to test stuff so far.

[wind spruce]

But yeah, obviously you'll have DD if you have a gun

[near wyvern]

Not that obviously, battery gunner has been in my viable build list for a while. It all really depends on the gun and how they scale with weakspot / crit damage and how much you can expect them to crit.

[wind spruce]

Goddamnit getting manstopper on my psyker isn't going to be easy is it

[wind spruce]

If by viable you mean hugely inferior, sure

[near wyvern]

I am not currently pouring any resources into min maxing the new weapons. I am just going to stock pile it all and then unload once the itemization update hits.

[patent wing]

even without, the warp charges are lost with a ult use and even if i cant hit a single headshot its still 15% dmg

with headshots its another 30%

[wind spruce]

The issue with battery gunner is the point investment

[hearty oak]

thats months from now though

[near wyvern]

It is not hugely inferior, it completely depends on the gun. Guaranteed one shots is better than at times one shot at times two shot.

[radiant frigate]

why did i hoard all these materials when there is no force greatsword 😭

[patent wing]

20% dmg buff < 82% buff

[quartz barn]

Wait what do you use on battery gunner?

Because you cant get scriers

[radiant frigate]

but hey, maybe i can try obscurususususus now

[near wyvern]

Which is why you go for bubble when playing the battery gunner and only use it as a panic button

[radiant frigate]

(again)

[wind spruce]

That is a huge edge case

[near wyvern]

Bubble, only trigger to save yourself or a team mate

[patent wing]

yeah but the dmg boost of 20% is nothing compared to DD 80%

[wind spruce]

Battery gunner doesn't have warp charges up for the beginning of scriers

[quartz barn]

So basically a safer gunker variant

[near wyvern]

If 20% is enough to one hit kill the things you need to kill ASAP, what does extra 60% damage do.

[quartz barn]

Ngl doesnt sound too bad, esp since scriers dd is more extreme with offense

[wind spruce]

So you're rocking 9% extra damage

[patent wing]

boss dmg x)

[near wyvern]

Yes but as I said this depends a lot on the gun.

[wind spruce]

And your peril at the time, presumably

[quartz barn]

Id say it depends on player skill, not the gun per se

[near wyvern]

Boss damage from Psykers is laughable except for Laspistol (the old one) and Columnus IAG so that's an edge case

[wind spruce]

He's talking about incredibly niche breakpoints

[patent wing]

accatran 2 is now only 3 seconds slower than ciag try it

[near wyvern]

The point of running warp battery is to not be dependant on warp rider for break points

[wind spruce]

Is that all headshots?

[near wyvern]

I will since they nerfed my boi

Glorious 15 sec kills gone

[wind spruce]

What's the difference on body shots

[patent wing]

its still 18

[near wyvern]

Thank god

[wind spruce]

Unplayable

[patent wing]

but its all headshots xx

laspistol: headshots 17 sec | 33 without headshots
accatran 2: headshots 21 sec | 31 without headshots
ciag: headshots 12 sec | 32 without headshots

[wind spruce]

Remarkably similar without headshots

[patent wing]

yeah also realistically the burn will help more

[sour bison]

which maul is better for psyker?

[wind spruce]

Indignatus has a slight edge imo. Better horde clear and comparable single target

The agni has a strike down for the first heavy, though

[devout sluice]

what's DD you mean Disrupt Destiny? how does it add up to 80%

[radiant frigate]

it doesn't

it is +all damage, +crit damage and +headshot damage

sure if you add all those numbers it may be 80% but it is not an 80% damage increase

[patent wing]

yeah because the game calculates dmg like a maniac

[radiant frigate]

Real

[patent wing]

in the psychward

[wind spruce]

Just don't let anyone convince you to take warp charges instead of DD for gunker breakpoints

[jovial juniper]

Yeah pick Perfectionism yourself

(don't)

[wind spruce]

@patent wing
https://outplayed.tv/media/XGLXZ5

Thrust might just be better than high voltage, doesnt make a huge difference on crushers, but it lets you hit other one shot break points, and is really helpful vs like charging mutants (and when sliding in, in general)

[sour bison]

are this blessings good?

[wind spruce]

Skullcrusher is best in slot

[hearty oak]

I wanna say skullcrusher is good cause more damage.

[wind spruce]

Lightning reflexes is very good when it procs

How useful it is... well that's up to you to decide

[hearty oak]

"Timed blocks" Like parrying?

[sour bison]

thanks

[jovial juniper]

Blocking right before getting hit

[patent wing]

i dont like thrust because it slows down my gameplay but yeah at this point....

[jovial juniper]

Probably made that way so you can't hold block and shock everything

[hearty oak]

I figured as much

Prob be very useful for the upgraded ragers

[jovial juniper]

Yup, they are overdoing their job

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/mn7rMy

Fuck me this thing is a lawn mower

[devout sluice]

what perks to put on this?

[haughty star]

The zealot chat is a strange place. Almost makes yall seem normal

[wind spruce]

idk, flak is probably a safe bet

and maniac

but whats "best" im still figuring out and will depend on the rest of your kit

https://outplayed.tv/media/GokRJz

BRUH

100 poxwalkers

just disappear

[wind wadi]

I usually take unarmored over maniac on melee weapons. there aren't all that many maniacs you're hitting in melee, and unarmored lets you hit harder on both groaners and jacket weakspots

[marble crater]

They got nerfed a lot and going through something right now

[wind spruce]

Yeah there's a strong argument for it on a lot of weapons

[haughty star]

I don't really see how the fury nerf is that bad lol

[wind spruce]

And the shock mauls probably want unarmoured to hit bruiser breakpoints

(I forgot about it for a minute there)

[haughty star]

The gun thing is sad but it's a melee thing lol it's kinda like uncanny assail being nerfhammered

[marble crater]

It's not, the crit CDR was a bigger hit

[devout sluice]

why over maniac? penetration stat already lets you do 100% dmg to flak armoured so why need flak armoured boost

[wind wadi]

the real answer is go into the psykanium and see if there are any meaningful breakpoints you're close to

[upper sun]

nerfs were not even that impactful

the only issue for me anyways is ironhelm chastise interaction with carap

it has such shitty carap damage i cant oneshot crushers with 3 stacks of thrust chastise and like 4 wounds anymore

[wind wadi]

i thought the ranged part of chastise/fury was known to be unintended from day 1

[wind spruce]

Yep, and work out what buffs you're going to have when you're in melee and what you'll be attacking with ranged/blitz instead

[upper sun]

i meant hammer

not ironhelm shottie

[wind wadi]

if 25% flak gets you real close to a dreg bruiser breakpoint, you can then be like "ok i'll probably have at least some peril boosting my damage"

[wind wadi]

oh i sorta just assumed zealots were unhappy about chastise being changed to melee only

i've been chorus pilled for too long lol

[wind spruce]

They're very unhappy about it

[upper sun]

i just dont feel right about thammer bodyshot carap damage

they should make aiming mid charge easier

so you can get a weakspot hit

[brazen rampart]

It's really only gun zealouts that are angry.

Which, tbh, is not that big of a loss.

They like to mag dump into trash so there's no ammo to share between the rest of the team.

Like, if you were using something that ate crushers for breakfast, and you were actually using it for that purpose, you get a pass, but most just mag dumped into trash.

[near wyvern]

Can we just take a second and admire how our child Perfect Timing has matured into a monstrosity.

[wind wadi]

that phenomenon is partially the fault of vet's ammo aura just completely solving the ammo scarcity out of the game for a while

[near wyvern]

Fire trauma single hit maxes out perfect timing on crits let's go

[upper sun]

flak crit chance now goes on all weapons

[near wyvern]

Also purgatus sniffs a pox pile and gets all stacked up on Perfect Timing as well

[true rover]

how do you get so many to spawn in the dream?

[wind spruce]

Creature spawner mod

[true rover]

ty

[hardy raft]

the whay

[ripe obsidian]

The Invocation of Death nerf is pretty significant

[supple dock]

Yeah it's pretty brutal but the talent is still good

[marble crater]

Look who is back now that zealots were nerfed

[upper sun]

are you even high enough on zealot levels to reach it yet?

[upper sun]

its still broken

[upper sun]

my crusher bodyshot breakpoint is gone ashes scattered to the wind

[radiant frigate]

not me, i just used the points spent on crit cdr and put them elsewhere for now

though the call of big crit zealot with perfect strike is considerable

[stiff falcon]

I hard carried a 3veg on my zealot just now

[supple dock]

my zealot is like +270 or something lmao

[hardy raft]

gosh darn

[stiff falcon]

Had 3 quitters

[upper sun]

what weapon?

[hardy raft]

ironhelm

[upper sun]

that is heavy 3 right?

[hardy raft]

no

heavy 1

i use that

[upper sun]

ah

yeah

[hardy raft]

heavy 3 can kill it easy

it seems

[upper sun]

ye

thats a weakpoint?

[hardy raft]

ye

easy to hit

[upper sun]

yeah

it is if you stop the chastise afterwards or use stealth or w/e

i want to be able to aim during chastise

i should do it make a thread bitching about chastise nerfs thatll fix it

[hardy raft]

chati interrupts thrust proc

p sure.

every ult in the game

throws out thrust

[upper sun]

[hardy raft]

for whatever the fuck reason

[upper sun]

WHAT

[hardy raft]

so you're throwing out 60% damage

as well

idk if they fixed that

but p sure its still there

[upper sun]

i really dont think so but ill check

[hardy raft]

ok

at least i thinki

its fixed for

chati

it didnt work for very funny shout for ogryn

and didnt work

for stelf

@upper sun ok

stelf eats it

fun

[upper sun]

man im so pissed

[hardy raft]

chati doesnt

[upper sun]

you're investing an ult and 5 seconds to charge thrust + moving yourself into melee range

and you cant even kill a crusher with 4 wounds worth of extra damage

[hardy raft]

eh

headshot works

[upper sun]

but i cant aim during the charge the mouse locks

if they removed that id be fine with it

[hardy raft]

how else would you charge to your destiation

and not do absurd things like trimping

[upper sun]

i can run while looking to the side

in fact

running to someone at full speed its best not to face them

[hardy raft]

you cant strafe while running, sorry

[upper sun]

so you dont break your nose

[hardy raft]

this game has shit backpedal speed just to add salt to injury

yep

ogryn shout resets thrust

fun

[upper sun]

ngl hammer is kinda dead to me if thats not changed

ok you report that as bug

ill bitch about chastise

[hardy raft]

idk about bug

stelf also does this

i assume

there are more ult in game that does this

[upper sun]

actually im gonna try changing flak to carap

[hardy raft]

its very scuffed but """consistant""" shit

[hardy raft]

i have mine as unyield carap

[jovial juniper]

Do they even reset the timer of your heavy attack charge?

Like how you can't hold heavy forever

[upper sun]

this is fine actually

carap 3 not carap 4

like 1 wound for weakspot

maybe 3 wounds for bodyshot with carap

[hardy raft]

before it didnt i think but it does now i think

[upper sun]

the rapid assalt crosshair type doesnt show staff charge time

do i really have to change my fucking settings depending on the weapon i play now

[hardy raft]

you need crosshair remap mod

[upper sun]

i cant use mods

[hardy raft]

oh right

woe upon ye

[dense valley]

anyone else modded game fucced after the update

[upper sun]

they said there was a memory issue where you cant use too many mods

[hardy raft]

remove weapon customization

[upper sun]

disable some and update what has an update already out

[dense valley]

I only use some light UI mod lol

[hardy raft]

hmm.

i use like 50 mods

and hasnt crashed on me

yet

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255626320151576698/1255735517517971601/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.06.26_-_22.52.41.18.DVR.mp4?ex=667e3655&is=667ce4d5&hm=0e0d532d6dabfc009eaa9933e453ccb8eeac8e75527cc23bfa71b7af1fc18376&

I am the knife prodigy

[upper sun]

how did they release this shit?

can we get someone who actually plays psyker on the test server

[hearty oak]

What

[upper sun]

if you change crosshair type you cant see charge

[hearty oak]

Oh the middle charge up thingies?

[upper sun]

yes

[hearty oak]

It shouldnt have. Could have sowrn its still there on the base game

[upper sun]

im in the charging animation there

[edgy heart]

just time it yourself smh my head, youre a psyker after all

[patent steeple]

if I use mk3 shock maul on gun psyker, would Crowd Control be a priority weapon stat?

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/b/2/b27280112acf6cdcba7504b9ff781d3e48c1823f.mp4

[bold cape]

unplayable

[zenith vigil]

this one is just...

[dense valley]

best thing this patch ong fr

[near wyvern]

I can do that with my mind

[near wyvern]

It was stated as a known bug

[supple dock]

[near wyvern]

Too early to call in for any stat prios

[upper sun]

bruh how was this not discovered on the test server do they just have no psykers theres

[near wyvern]

It was in the patch notes, they tested it, noted it doesn't work and shipped it anyways

[upper sun]

least favorite child fr fr

[near wyvern]

Cause they figured better to release custom croshairs for non-stavers rather than hold back because one class can use four weapons for which it doesn't work

[upper sun]

they could have just given the players the option to select a crosshair per weapon type

but noo thats too many options the poor players would have a brainfreeze

[near wyvern]

Except it doesn't seem to work. At least in the meat grinder I don't seem to get the stat increase.

You do get the double cast on crit as before tho.

Hard to confirm it to work when it's only 5% and doesn't show up in your stats.

[dense valley]

I'm getting the extra 5% shown on my show crit chance mod

then again everything is 50 50 anw lol

[near wyvern]

Ok so it's only in grinder where it doesn't work then

Make sure your weapon doesn't have +5% crit chance perk as well tho

[hearty oak]

Now they need to fix surge staff as a whole

[dense valley]

w crit node, prescience, +5 on weapon and surge i got 27.5% crit right off the bat

[sour bison]

finally

[dense valley]

ah yes my fave perk

[near wyvern]

Thx. Inventory Stats cannot just calculate it then. I will credit you for confirmation that it works.

[hardy raft]

fatshark on their way to make the worst blessing possible

[dense valley]

lol who tf use this perk anw

[hardy raft]

itemization preparing

but 80% crit chance is just

bad

why

[dense valley]

filler perk

[near wyvern]

It was amazing when the game released, it was T4 only and gave you guaranteed crits for like 5 seconds after a special attack kill

[sacred crane]

im buying that

[dense valley]

Ye I remember it good times

but after they made it 1 hit its literally filler perk

[upper sun]

does the game have some way of limiting crits

they cant be perfectly random now can they

[plucky flax]

No only testers from the other 3 classes.

[near wyvern]

There is no roll protection. The only limit is for high fire rate weapons and that is how many crits they can do per a crit proc. Fast firing weapons do multiple crit hits back to back on a single crit roll.

[dense valley]

aight anyone tried the bolt pistol yet ? can you actually hit anythin w it ?

[west bronze]

it's super inaccurate for some reason

[dense valley]

ye recoil harder than the bolt gun itself lol

and cant magdump crusher

[summer prairie]

did they also add additional Focused Channeling tiers

[upper sun]

you should quit your job and playtest 24/7

[plucky flax]

I'm not gimpy enough to play test for free.

[summer prairie]

I guess all the blessings are going to get 4 tiers

[dense valley]

yet youre still doin it even w out the recognition lol

[plucky flax]

Wut?

[sacred crane]

anyone else still getting crashes?

[dense valley]

we all paid to play test vermintide 3 tech demo fam

some even called it "Darktide"

[edgy heart]

i peed a little

[hollow current]

@upper sun

[marble crater]

Yep, crashed before seeing my first enemy yesterday

I will just play something else until the next hot fix

[upper sun]

this is bullshit

they gave injections of plasteel/dockets/diamantine to a bunch of people for various things

[dense valley]

like bro just let us host like v2

[silver portal]

Skill issue :3

[west bronze]

yeah, my bad

[silver portal]

Whats ur guns accuracy percentage?

[west bronze]

you mean like, the stability stat?

[silver portal]

Yea mb

[west bronze]

73%

[silver portal]

I’ve found if you take time and headshot from a distance you can pretty much one shot the squishy specials

[west bronze]

that is true

[dense valley]

aye i got maxed out at 80 and still cant hit shit

[silver portal]

Skill issue lol

[dense valley]

and theres some weird glitch

[silver portal]

How fast are u shooting it and do you aim down sights?

I pretty go for body shots if they’re in melee distance

Headshots for far away specials

[dense valley]

the first shot is easy to land but subsequent shot are impossible cuz the recoil

I ran it on my zealot

like id just pull out my melee and charge on lol

[silver portal]

It’s not impossible just takes long for the crosshair to return

I feel like the bolt pistol is for elite squishies

And ragers

[dense valley]

I mean if thats the case the revolver is just gon be better

[silver portal]

True revolver is broken with that penetration and how fast it is while doing the same amount of dmg

[near wyvern]

If you have warp battery and +maniac with the +4 bleed stack you can do that at 0% peril

Takes only few ticks max

With some peril it becomes insta gib

[silver portal]

:D

U put flak armor what ur second stat?

@near wyvern

[dense valley]

and the double barrel shotgun is just miserable tbh

[silver portal]

Yea it’s just for shits and giggles

[dense valley]

like maybe if it has penetration or st

otherwise shotgun are just ass

[upper sun]

"hybrid combat" but all the new ranged weapons are mid

[dense valley]

imagine point blank weakspot rager and hes not dead

also zealot is absolutely gutted lol

[upper sun]

nah zealots fine

[dense valley]

nerf to charge and impact node were significant imo

[upper sun]

did people run punishment?

[dense valley]

if u run crit node u gotta take that

[silver portal]

How long you think the new weapon update will take??

Rework*

[upper sun]

4 months

maybe like 3 days after space marines 2 drops

[silver portal]

Fkin fatshark

[marble crater]

I doubt it will take 4 months. I'm going to say end of July or start of August

[upper sun]

its just that easy

[near wyvern]

If possible yes, but even more important is to have the bleed and bonus damage versus stagger, that guarantees rager two taps

[dense valley]

how long was it since we got these new achievements again

I'd say we got 1.5 times that

[near wyvern]

Also kills reapers in 4 body shots and a few after ticks even when you don't crit at all

[sour bison]

worth changing anything to skullcrusher 4?

[near wyvern]

The team will probably be on holiday for the whole of June and continue working on it in August. Smells like an anniversary update if you ask me.

[dense valley]

I think the biggest reason why ppl shit on the crafting system because thats literally the only mechanic that alter gameplay besides talent tree

[haughty star]

Yeah I I don't think the system is that bad

[near wyvern]

Yes and the fact that it is purely RNG based. You cannot work towards anything, all you get is tokens for the slot machine.

[haughty star]

You can't have instant gratification in games like this , things stagnate once everyone gets everything

[silver portal]

Bro they always go on holiday after an update lmao

[near wyvern]

Not having instant gratification and forcing long term goals is fine

Locking playstyles and end game goals behind RNG mechanics is not cool

[dense valley]

I mean if they added like weapon mods as a seperate system maybe both wouldve share the shitstorm

[haughty star]

Pretty much any modern successful game like this has rng

[marble crater]

Going to assume they are successful despite those rng systems and not because of them

[near wyvern]

My dream would be that you can modify perks and blessings without the locks at whatever cost and that you could strip weapon parts for extracting a single stat roll destroying the rest of the weapon and then apply that part to a weapon of your choosing (same type tho) to get that single stat.

That way you would only need to see each perfect stat once and then combine those into the ultimate weapon.

[marble crater]

I didn't craft anything in over a month and if it wasn't for the crashes I would still play just as much

[near wyvern]

Same here. All I can craft for my Psyker is to try and get that extra 2% performance on my weapons which isn't worth it.

As soon as you hit break points it's not worth the hassle to push for more

[upper sun]

i tried to upgrade the gear i've been using for 500+ hours

and it never works

[marble crater]

I will definitely craft those extra 2% with the new system though, just to have them. Then it's playing because the gameplay loop is just super fun, if you don't crash

[fallow pine]

WHY DONT WE GET A MASK 😭

(They look cool I not hating :3)

[marble crater]

They do look cool

[thorn cedar]

why they all kinda look like Slade from Teen Titans

[fallow pine]

I love the helmet WHY CANT I HAVE IT 😭

[solemn atlas]

Why are the charge bars on psykers staff so fkn huge
I literally cannot even see and it's actually making me sick

[marble crater]

It's the price we pay for the buffs

[azure bridge]

those the new cosmetics?

[fallow pine]

Sobbing

[plucky flax]

Oh look randomly increase cosmetic price.

[haughty star]

What buffs ? From april?

[upper sun]

infinite loading screens still arent fixed 😦

[marble crater]

Obscurus buff, DS2 buff, Perfect timing buff

Surge blessing buff

[patent wing]

@wind spruce saul with lightning reflexes can block overheads lol

[near wyvern]

That's what I am waiting for. The big change for me is that when there comes new content I will hopefully be able to properly test them without hours of endless RNG grind.

The perfect timing buff was huge tho

It's not broken but makes it so much easier to keep it at max

[marble crater]

Yeah, too many people in the last few days have spent a huge amount of dockets to get a few weapons, insanity

[near wyvern]

I was lucky and got a decent bolt pistol only for 500k

[patent wing]

yall already know whats about to change or what

idk its kinda stupid that the crusher turns away when gettin stunned, makes it kinda impossible to hit its head without moving around

[haughty star]

Which blessing on surge got buffed and what'd they buff on perfect timing

[upper sun]

surge the blessing not the staff

[haughty star]

Oh :<

[mild bear]

got this pretty little thing as an emperor's gift and was thinking i could use it for a gunker build or something. what blessings are good on this thing?

[analog agate]

Perfect timing is every hit now. So you can stack it incredibly quick

[haughty star]

It's not on ctit anymore???

[marble crater]

Still crit, but each crit hit instead of each attack that crits

If you hit more than 1 enemy you get more than 1 stack at the same time

[haughty star]

I mean it's not huge but it's deffo a buff regardless

[hearty oak]

Could do puncture for bleed damage or just get more weakspot crit damage

[upper sun]

okay i can play voidstrike with new crosshairs

but i cant see the charge

[hearty oak]

Hud mod?

[upper sun]

no new crosshairs are bugged for everyone

but jesus does the rapidassault one make aiming so much easier

[near wyvern]

It is huge when you realise a single fire trauma crit means instant +15% soulblaze damage instead of having to cast 5 crit casts

And also purge now sneezes on a pox pile and you are at +15% damage straight away

[patent steeple]

the only issue for me is that crit attacks that don't hit anything no longer grant a stack (probably), so I can no longer get Perfect Timing stacks via just spamming purge LMB at nothing...

[near wyvern]

Switch to the weapon specific crosshairs when playing with a staff, that is the current work around. It is an issue they said they are aware of in the patch notes.

[patent steeple]

makes passive upkeep harder, but I guess that is just a small price to pay for better stacking overall...

[upper sun]

yeah but come on who wants to do that?

[near wyvern]

Yeah you can't swing air anymore to keep it up but honestly it's better this way and now it is in line with other effects. It is a slight nerd to DS or knife + Assail users but other than that it's a buff overall.

You don't have to be swinging constantly like a maniac and you will get it up and running in no time during combat.

[ripe obsidian]

Are there any mods to give you a total overview of weapon blessings that you have/don't have?

[upper sun]

we got floating plasteel before crafting 😭

[upper sun]

there is a mod to reveal unobtained blessings yeah

[ripe obsidian]

I have that one. I want to see all at once, like all 1,100 or however many there are

I wanna know how many I have

[upper sun]

ah idk

[ripe obsidian]

Like, I already have this one

[hearty dagger]

I just rolled like 8 point blanks on bolt pistols

Holy shit Hadron hates me

[ripe obsidian]

She isn't subtle about hating you, varlet

[hearty dagger]

At least it wasn't in a row

There was at least one run and gun in between

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/war-games-joshua-woppr-strange-game-doctor-only-winning-move-is-not-to-play-gif-16198386

[flint pawn]

If I get a better knife should Riposte be changed to anything?

[marble crater]

Uncanny is kind of a must have

[flint pawn]

What's Uncanny again

[patent steeple]

btw, I feel like I need to grind for the "Rending against *staggered enemies" blessing on the shock maul, so that I can use it with gun psyker...

[flint pawn]

oh this?

[supple dock]

if you aren't using your knife to fight bosses and kill crushers flesh tearer/riposte is fine

Shit even if you do use it for bosses

The bleed makes up for the loss of rending

[flint pawn]

I use it as a way to handle bosses when I have aggro, and specials

I don't really use it for anything else

[supple dock]

i think maniac should be changed to flak

otherwise your knife is solid

[flint pawn]

Does Flak hit a breakpoint on something?

[supple dock]

tbh the main reason is for better damage on maulers and the ability to take care of bruisers better, haven't tested the BPs but with flak I can definitely 1shot headshot a buckethead with a crit

there's also gunners and shotgunners and..

but yeah I don't have solid nnumbers

[flint pawn]

I see

[supple dock]

there's a guy around here who does numbers but

[flint pawn]

Yeah I don't really use the knife a lot

[supple dock]

actually?

[flint pawn]

By that I mean I use it a ton but I use it as a weapon for certain situations and mostly camp staff/blitz

[supple dock]

You could swap that to crit

chance

because your main use for the dagger is to fight bosses, and daggers get disgusting unyielding crits

[flint pawn]

I mostly picked up the knife because the movement and attack speed + bleed lets me tank Chaos Spawns without much trouble lol

I can try crit chance

[supple dock]

headshot crit will kill almost everything lol

it's crazy g ood

[flint pawn]

Quick test and I think I definitely prefer Maniac

The moment I took off Maniac, Flamers survive on head shot if I don't crit

[upper sun]

bomber resist unironically goated on psyker

[flint pawn]

Trapper survives 2 non crit head shots too, yeah back to Maniac lol but I appreciate the idea

Could also just be my knife is too weak though

[supple dock]

fair enough!

[flint pawn]

Maybe the missing parts of the damage stats would secure the trapper 2 hit kill

[supple dock]

Flak/maniac/Crit are all solid options for whatever

so at that point it's preference