psyker-class

[hearty dagger]

Stamina.

Crit damage is at least something

[hardy raft]

stamina is good for PA

crit damage does jack shit

[hearty dagger]

To be fair, with decent stam regen on psyker, you can PA, light light heavy and be completely good on stamina for horde clear

[hoary badge]

not psyker but I sometimes run stamina for certain guns with deadshot builds as well

[potent echo]

i rather have stamina than 2% extra damage 10% of the time lol

[dry zenith]

If I remember correctly crit damage only applies to what the crit damage deals extra and isn't a full multiplier. so if you normally deal 100 and a crit does 130. you'd get 100 + 30 + 3 at 10% extra crit damage

[hearty dagger]

damn

[quartz barn]

^

[hearty dagger]

I was afraid that was the case

[dry zenith]

It's virtually useless

[quartz barn]

Ye welcome to fs design

[hearty dagger]

I knew fatshark sucked at adding weakpoint damage/crit damage

But GODDAMN

[hardy raft]

least WP damage you can activate when you want

crit you xant

[potent echo]

its only good on super high crit weapons, even then you just want a flat +25% boost to armor type

[quartz barn]

No they straightup dont understand it

[azure bridge]

any big changes to psyker weapons from the patch? I didn't see anything written in the notes at least

[hardy raft]

columnus got nerfed

[hearty dagger]

They buffed Obscurus

[hardy raft]

recon got buffed

obscurus now buffed

[dry zenith]

yeah the meta picks are always 2x +25% damage type or +crit chance depending on your build

[hoary badge]

that's why post-launch reworks usually has finesse bonuses jacked up to the 50% at the minimum

[hardy raft]

idk how it plays out tho

[marble crater]

DS2 was buffed

[hearty dagger]

From what i've seen Obscurus is now not just eeeeh but not bad?

[dry zenith]

recon is roughly at columnus5 levels now with scrier gunpsyker

[quartz barn]

Surge gives crit now so void got buffed indirectly

[potent echo]

its slightly weaker than deimos

[azure bridge]

did trauma staff get touched?

[potent echo]

but you get some extra cleavy moves

[azure bridge]

think i saw something about burn dots in there

[quartz barn]

Trauma didnt get touched

[hearty dagger]

Damn, even in the bottom of my never cleaned melee weapons list

[potent echo]

technically it did

[hearty dagger]

There is not a singular Obscurus

[potent echo]

surge blessing gives 5% crit chance now

[dry zenith]

trauma left click gets +5% crit thanks to surge now kek

[potent echo]

lmb trauma

[quartz barn]

Burn dots is only on swords and just evens out t3 blaze stacks

[azure bridge]

gotcha

[hearty dagger]

As if surge wasn't good enough

[quartz barn]

Crits apply 3 stacks up to a max of 9

Was 2 stacks up to a max of 10

[hardy raft]

its wack

[quartz barn]

T4 blaze untouched

[dry zenith]

wasn't that for fire on infernus and not soulblaze?

or did they do a global fire dot change

[hardy raft]

most fire tick blessings got changed like thay

voth infernus and blazing spirit

[quartz barn]

No thats the dots t3 blaze gives on swords

[hardy raft]

and the trauma blazing spirit got forgotten

[quartz barn]

This doesnt affect trauma

[hearty dagger]

Siblings, what's better on a shockmaul?

High Voltage or Skullcrusher?

[potent echo]

give us blessing that illisi shoot out magical sword beams, thanks fatshark

[potent echo]

both good

[hardy raft]

skullcrusher highvolt and the parry talent

skullcrusher seems to habe less uptime but better damage output

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i don't think shockmauls even have a bad blessing

[azure bridge]

does psyker get access to the bolt pistol? I'm not able to login to check

[hardy raft]

HV just always get active essentially

[potent echo]

or you dont take parry talent and both SC and highvoltage

[dry zenith]

I like falter and the rending blessing

[hearty dagger]

Yup

[hardy raft]

falter

[potent echo]

ultra daamge

[upper sun]

im good enough to do damage and not die but not good enough to revive 3 people at once 😭

[hearty dagger]

Falter's still not that bad. I run it and it's fun for stunlocking ragers.

[upper sun]

relic bad 😡

[hardy raft]

hammerblow does this.

[azure bridge]

ooo, i'm very tempted to try and grab one

[hearty dagger]

It's not like say Force Swords where they get bricked hard

[potent echo]

hammerblow dese

[dry zenith]

fun fact: the electrocute stun on block blessing has NO cooldown. Do what you will with that information siblings

[hearty dagger]

But what if

[hardy raft]

nuts

[hearty dagger]

Hammerblow+Falter?

me omw to stunlock Nurgle

[hardy raft]

doesnt stun crushers enough

[dry zenith]

I'm running hammerblow + thrust on my zealot

[hardy raft]

from what ive tested

highvolt basically has 90% uptime

[hearty dagger]

Yeah you do shock pretty often

And even if it's a big guy, just tase 'em

Guaranteed shock

[dry zenith]

from what I see each stagger is one electrocute yes?

[potent echo]

it works on normal hit

you dont even need to shock

[hearty dagger]

Yeah

that's what i mean

Regular attacks already shock enemies pretty often

[near wyvern]

I am not. But that's only because I have decked out all my weapons on one class and don't bother to do it with the rest. I am missing a few percentages here and there but I am not willing to play 2k hours more just to get that few percentages. Hopefully the itemization update addresses the RNG involved.

[hearty dagger]

And if it's a big guy, you can just tase 'em for the guaranteed shock and then lay overheads on 'em

[potent echo]

did you see the wcctech post, over in the theorycrafting

[near wyvern]

No, all I saw was locks will be gone and fucking finally

[dry zenith]

Well I was a 6 figure guy as well until I tried building all the new weapons lol. Now I'm down 70k and I haven't even touched the pickaxes

[hearty dagger]

Funnily enough, i only get bricked weapons on Psyker. Literally every other class gets absolute godrolls on first attempt. Or at least rolls that i want

[potent echo]

fatshark claims you can max out starter weapons in the future

and you can change between marks

[near wyvern]

@potent echo can you link the message for me?

[potent echo]

https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/wccftech.com/warhammer-40k-darktide-secrets-of-the-machine-god-details-itemization-preview-and-brief-qa-with-fatshark/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=17194129368729&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwccftech.com%2Fwarhammer-40k-darktide-secrets-of-the-machine-god-details-itemization-preview-and-brief-qa-with-fatshark%2F

[near wyvern]

Ty will give a read

[potent echo]

sus article

[dry zenith]

it honestly depends on how hard the grind for it is. If the leaked spanish article is anything to go buy it might be a lot

[potent echo]

its really short

[dry zenith]

then again, they supposedly scrapped it so yeah

[hardy raft]

might change my vet back to cadian

[near wyvern]

Everything is Sus until it is in the game and I can test it. Even if it says something in the game it's Sus until tested it actually works like that.

[hardy raft]

even if its tested its sus.

[dry zenith]

pretty much. Just like with every blessing. It only works when you confirm it working. Otherwise it might as well be a placeholder icon

[hearty dagger]

Ngl it would be a cool system if red weapons weren't random drops, but weapons became red over time as you upgrade/use them

My Illisi getting carryover XP: Literally becomes pink

[dry zenith]

I'd be down for challenges like completing x amount of maelstrom runs with a weapon to bathe it in the emprahs glory and have it ready to be upgraded to red.

Or simply bash enough fools with it, either way gimme a reward for using my weaponfu

[dry zenith]

I'm a loyal man. I'd never discard the NOIFE I stabbed tens of thousands of fools with

[hearty dagger]

Honestly it would be amazing if it was something like say "Deal X amount of monstrosity damage" or maybe it's weapon dependent

[dry zenith]

small weapon penances would be neat enough. It'd be toxic as fuck as usual but still fun.

[potent echo]

each and every one of your weapons give you dailies/weeklies

[hearty dagger]

Like say, a Shockmaul, an enforcer's weapon, has challenges around dregs and crowd control, while something like a Flamer would be about burning poxwalkers/monstrosities since it's purpose is to purge the unclean

[dry zenith]

kek loner psyker getting whispered to by his sword "use me master... I YEARN FOR BLOOD"

[dry zenith]

It'd be great if those challenges would be built arount the flavour of red weapon.

[hearty dagger]

Imagine if we got Mechanicus-style Machine Spirit stuff for the weapon

[dry zenith]

so many cool ideas

and so much potential

yet so many bugs and basic necessities to fix. I wonder if FS will ever manage to catch up

[hearty dagger]

Honestly

Just ring up Arrowhead and ask how they handle dev pipelines

Since iirc that's the main difference between them

Same engine, bigger studio, but holy shit the pipeline is so bad it's basically made with 100 year old lead that's started chipping away and giving actual brainrot to the inhabitants

[upper sun]

demonic weapons lets fucking goo

[dry zenith]

shh that's just the beloved talking through the weapon

[upper sun]

theres a ton of shit to pick up in vt2 why cant we pick up temporary weapons that do big deeps but also give space aids

[potent echo]

this might be going abit too crazy

although if its a seperate game mode

[upper sun]

im just pissy after seeing the amount of content in vt2

[near wyvern]

Not sure what Arrowhead uses for scripting. We know Fatshark uses LUA and we have seen the spaghetti mess what it is.

Not implying LUA is bad but let's just say when you have a template style scripting model it screams for object oriented instead of functional programming

[dry zenith]

shhh you'll scare away the zoomer coders

[jovial juniper]

Payday 3 weapon drop style

[hearty dagger]

Yeah, engine's same but idk about scripting. Plus i'm not a game dev so this is all just talking from stuff i heard from other people.

[flint pawn]

?

[hearty dagger]

They buffed it. You also move faster while charging now.

[jovial juniper]

What's ? about it

[flint pawn]

20-50%

Implying there's tiers?

[upper sun]

+25% gross damage
+20% ewww damage
the uhhhhh blessing that does the thing
the one where you gain toughness on the thing
this is what DT looks like under the hood 😭

[flint pawn]

Are there tiers of Focused Channeling now?

[upper sun]

not yet but maybe theyre rebalancing single tier blessings to add more tiers

[hearty dagger]

Just had a thought

You know how there's dead enforcers around the maps?

Maybe we could have environmental pick-up weapons in the form of enforcer batons

Signalis tazer-style single use that will absolutely fry a heretic, but it's only good for one use. Also signalis-style, it can arc between enemies if they're close enough

[jovial juniper]

Oh, bloodthirsty is also having that, but only T4 atm

[flint pawn]

Gotcha

Well the 30% movement boost is still nice

[marble crater]

Or you can slide

[flint pawn]

shhhhhhh I'm trying to pretend perfectly optimized play doesn't exist (it comes for us all)

[marble crater]

Focused Channelling can just be replaced by being in a better position or dodging if you weren't

[jovial juniper]

9+ stamina Focused Run 'n' Gun Surge staff

[upper sun]

🤔

did void get a stealth nerf

i dont feel like im critting as much as before as with the extra surge crit

no nvm its just brown even on body shots

did they switch weakspot and crit colors?

[mental rock]

Yeah the colours have changed around

[upper sun]

😡

can they not change random shit

[analog agate]

I liked focus channeling before trauma got a stagger buff and staves don’t have interrupted casting. Which makes it useless

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WHY WOULD THAT MAKE YOU JUST SWITCH THEM AROUND

GIVE THEM NEW COLORS

FUCKING MAKE WEAKSPOTS PURPLE

[jovial juniper]

The actual reason for the change is above that on the patch

Brb

[upper sun]

bruh

im putting a center dot on my monitor with a sharpie

[spice veldt]

downside: recoil

[hearty oak]

Classic halo 2 blind skull moment

[fluid aspen]

There is a setting to always have a dot iirc

[near wyvern]

Arrowhead also has some brainfarts though. +50% melee damage is not enough to one hit even the weakest bug with a melee hit. 🤷

[tacit cove]

hardest chorus of fortitude carry of my life

they did absolutely nothing other than get knocked

[mental rock]

What diff? 1500 kills in 37mins is pretty low

[sacred crane]

wait was entropist renamed to lightening reflexes?

[upper sun]

well every chorus is a 5 minute game pause

[quartz barn]

seeing someone get a sub 70 score still amazes me

i guess they were just down the entire time xd

[patent wing]

u think that shotgun deals more dmg to bosses than bolt pistol?

god i wish i could buy plasteel

xd

[marble crater]

Don't give them ideas

[upper sun]

getting a job and buying 10k plasteel for 10 bucks is a better use of everyone's time

[marble crater]

10 plasteel for 10k

Take it or leave it

[patent wing]

i take 2

oh wait

[marble crater]

[tacit cove]

heresy which is what makes it even funnier cuz i thought like okay a heresy game should be chill

[sacred crane]

?

worth leveling or nah

[marble crater]

Damage is too low, isn't it?

[upper sun]

kusu weapon

[sacred crane]

on a bad roll shotgun with 70 something damage, it was only like 780

[sacred crane]

i dont think its that big of a difference

[marble crater]

40 damage is 40 damage

[haughty star]

Honestly alot of my drive to keep playing is the hunt

[marble crater]

It's almost 50 difference, seems big

[sacred crane]

mf im testing in the psykarnium rn and its doing 640 damage on both shotguns with a headshot

*670

[vernal temple]

I guess psykers don't need ammo. We can syphon energy of the warp and channel in into the gun.

[upper sun]

TD

[marble crater]

I said seems, if there is no difference then go for it I guess

Oh shit crafting devblog

[upper sun]

side note

no way someone in the imperium would make a design this user friendly

this is not lore friendly and should be changed to a flat battery indicator

[marble crater]

I said. Crafting devblog

[upper sun]

brb

you have the potential to unlock all the possible marks for this weapon and switch from one mark to another.

The blessing library of the weapon family will be converted into mastery progression.

I new i was right for earning every blessing i could get my hands on

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

all those weeks melkmaxxing did not go to waste 🫡

[hearty oak]

All those weeks of not melkmaxxing saved my sanity

[marble crater]

I'm more interested in moving weapons to the new system. Can I increase stats on the weapons I have already

[upper sun]

fatshark giving me 500 mastery on taxes(i have never played tactical axe)

[upper sun]

idk if it would matter if you cant go above 80

you should have a usable brick of every single weapon at this point

[marble crater]

I mean, I do. But can I turn them into god rolls

[upper sun]

i cant wait to switch my 550 agri into caig

[hearty dagger]

So i got the first 2 consecrations done on that 380

And uhh

We'll have to see

[tacit cove]

lmao hadron be wilding

[haughty star]

man i swear they messed with the DD or something. this new mission is on some other shit

[hearty dagger]

I guess it's not that bad of a perk?

[marble crater]

Sounds like copium

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/optimized/3X/5/4/545668d962a3e6b332ca94c328434a57a47bf2ec_2_1035x582.jpeg

this base

is higher than 380

[marble crater]

Perks and blessings have different values as well, modification cap

[upper sun]

10mil diamantine 1mil plasteel and 3.5k dockets

[marble crater]

Maybe we can increase base stats but would have to settle for lower level perks and blessings, so there would still be an incentive for high stats

[upper sun]

the poor dev had to spam brunt so much to get one usable base for the dev blog

[upper sun]

sounds fine by me

[broken carbon]

LMAO

[marble crater]

We need to start farming diamantine

[broken carbon]

downloaded buy until rating just for the demonstration

[upper sun]

tbh i think everyone would go with max perks and blessings over max stats if given the choice

man

[marble crater]

Probably, but it would open a lot of opportunities

[upper sun]

im gonna have so much cash flow after i fix my weapons and throw away all the weird ass blues i own with 380 rating

[marble crater]

We should dismantle all our weapons and start fresh

[radiant frigate]

so far the crafting rework is looking a lot like weave crafting in vt2

glad to see that after years of trial and error, we are returning to the best crafting system tide has had

[upper sun]

tbh i should just play vt2 until they release it

[marble crater]

No

[upper sun]

yes

its good

try it

[marble crater]

No

[upper sun]

unironically better than darktide

[marble crater]

I don't have time for another horde game

[upper sun]

just play less darktide

[lethal lagoon]

Does that mean I should grab blessings off all the useless weapons sitting in my inventory

[upper sun]

Yes

YOU ALL LAUGHED AT ME FOR MELKMAXXING

[lethal lagoon]

Did I?

[upper sun]

nooooo clad you shouldnt grind weeklies for 5 chars every week

idk

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like I just made fun of you for the sake of making fun of you

[upper sun]

but a few people here did

fair

[lethal lagoon]

fair

[upper sun]

but im sure out of everyone there were non believers

[hollow current]

carry the fuck out of a mission and the pubs refuse to get into the exit elevator. Then I get hit with error 2001.

[ripe obsidian]

I don't love the idea of not being able to pick the best perks/blessings due to a modifications cap. But I guess each weapon will have a different cap to keep people grinding

[upper sun]

my one regret in darktide is rescuing 3 people who spent an entire mission stealling ammo from me and double tapping ammo crates

i should have left the game after i reached the rescue point

[marble crater]

The cap is most likely high enough to use every combination of perks and blessings at the highest level

[haughty star]

i'm playing in 4s and regualar 5s rn and it's soooo bad

[hollow current]

I had a clutch moment too where I rescued everyone in the middle of the match too.

[tacit cove]

the amount of trash i am paired with yest and today is horrible

[upper sun]

does the game have hidden elo?

[cunning yew]

holy sigmar, why the fuck is on the new map so many corners next to stairs, i just dodged backwards into one and died to a crusher overhead because the stairs are not all the way to the side

[plucky flax]

How many melk money do you have?

[upper sun]

now?

like 5k

[plucky flax]

That's so low.

[upper sun]

i buy everything and earn all t4 blessings i see

[haughty star]

lol people that have spent wayy too much time on this game think using your credits is peasentry

[slow karma]

IT's not about just t4 now though

[plucky flax]

I do that too but I have over 200k.

[upper sun]

🤔

[slow karma]

It's abotu how much of the total collection is filled out

[upper sun]

when did you start playing?

[haughty star]

me?

i have 300 or so in

[marble crater]

Bully

[upper sun]

no agent

[plucky flax]

[hollow current]

just fuCK my shit UP

[upper sun]

what a weird looking voidstrike

[plucky flax]

I don't even farm weekly actually.

[lyric burrow]

I could have more melk stuff but i dont pay much attention to contracts

[upper sun]

send this screenshot to tech support and ask for the rewards

errrrr

video

if they can undelete weapons they can add some resources

[hollow current]

for my pain and suffering i will accept a small offering of 25,000 plasteel and 15 million dockets

as well as 5 380's of each weapon with the appropiate dump stat

[upper sun]

kek this isnt the american court system

make a thread here with the video

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/darktide/technical-issues/93

since you have the scoreboard up in it as well as the crash that should be enough to get everything you would have gotten from the mission

[marble crater]

Go read the crafting devblog

[plucky flax]

I did what about it?

[analog agate]

Yeah… doesn’t say anything about melk bucks

Can’t wait to get my weapon to where it already is now though…

[spice veldt]

though you'll have a head start based on your existing blessings

[analog agate]

Aye

[spice veldt]

i like my progression systems so i'm fine with it

[analog agate]

I am also assuming some/a lot blessing will change based off of the coding people have looked at

[spice veldt]

yeah it's the ripe opportunity to do some balance passes

VICIOUS SLICE

[analog agate]

I will want it to feel different. If I essentially lose all the “power” on my staff to have to rank it up again to wind up exactly where I am now… won’t be a fan

That is me as a legacy player though. I am sure it will be better than the current system overall

[zinc phoenix]

itemization blog lookin good

[spice veldt]

yeah having already gone through the motions and having to restart it

[zinc phoenix]

curious how they will handle conversion

[spice veldt]

prob will be less painful since it's less rng stuff at least

and the head start, depending on what the conversion ratio is

[zinc phoenix]

i mean some of us have a lot of fancy gear across characters

how that will translate will determine how much people are peeved about this system

also big question is will we have to pay resources to swap between marks of a weapon? i am hoping not

[spice veldt]

at least from how i'm interpreting it, we're basically eliminating shops as a whole
prob will just a free choice

would be extremely abnormal to have to pay to use different weapons each time

something that isn't covered would be how they would handle weapons with different stats

what if i want a duellie with 60% cleave damage and also want to swap off to a 60% mob one

[analog agate]

Past the headstart in leveling. I hope they put thought into how much xp you get. Most of us are used to maelstrom/aurics. I hope that running through those a couple of times can get us a massive amount of xp. I don’t want to grind through malice to have to level up my weapon to be able to adequately do an maelstrom

[spice veldt]

at least if they implement basic linear scaling, even that's good nuff

[analog agate]

Ya

[upper sun]

ye i was always melkmaxxing for blessings

because if the system ever got changed its the easiest way to tell which player had the most "progression"

though the guy who is writing the vet guide is leagues a head of everyone

he has blessings t1-t4 for most things

[clear bridge]

Veteronomicon is...

Cool

[upper sun]

its not even finished

[clear bridge]

Ye but I like the idea

Ogrynomicon is cool

[marble crater]

Are you not excited?

[plucky flax]

Not particularly. I'll have to play around with it first.

I am numb to excitement when it comes to darktide now.

[patent steeple]

I think I hate the fact I would have to sacrifice my Surge Voidstrike to get the Surge blessing for the crafting rework update...

[analog agate]

Just wait until you have to do a run n gun terrifying barrage void staff because those are the early blessing unlocks while surge is the max 😂 I kinda kid… but yeah I hope you don’t have to use a shit weapon to get to the “good” blessings

[upper sun]

i think youll just be locked to t1 stuff until you play them more

which is not bad

[spice veldt]

at the very least you can dump points into stats until you have the blessings you like

[analog agate]

Yeah but surge is t4 only

[upper sun]

ye now itll be a path before it was a casino

[analog agate]

Unless they change that to have levels

Who knows I guess

[upper sun]

why do you think they gave it crit?

[spice veldt]

and there being a potential for a rework

it's possible that they untether it from crits completely and give it an independent proc chance like haymaker has

[upper sun]

i think they gave the weird blessings with only a single tier numbers to later convert them into tiered blessings

[marble crater]

Damn, they broke an Unsanctioned Psyker

[upper sun]

were all unsanctioned never broken down by the black ships

half a year of no updates >> a year on the black ships

[plucky flax]

10 years no new staff to play with.

Give vt2 bolt staff.

I want to be sniper.

[upper sun]

its ok after the crafting updates theyll run out of shit to fix its gonna be all weapons and maps from there

[marble crater]

That sounds like voidstrike

[upper sun]

2027 is gonna be our year siblings

its exactly voidstaff

give beam staff

@marble crater you'd know what that is if you played vt2

[analog agate]

I’ll be interested to hear what they plan on for my 100s of weapons in my inventory/equipped

[hollow current]

They remove everything everyone has worked for and spent tens of millions of dockets in and thousands of hours to start over fresh.

[marble crater]

Bully

[analog agate]

Also, get ready for everyone to have mobility ~51 on their weapons haha

[hearty oak]

Not a bad idea honestly

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike damage is poop compared to bolt actually.

You can snipe elites and specials so well with bolt in vt2. And the projectile is super fast.

Not a slow ass ball.

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

um acktually its balanced around having health as a quell tax so its balanced

please ignore that flame swords are also stronger that deimos

[plucky flax]

I never had problem with quelling. Temp hp gen in vt2 is crazy af.

[radiant frigate]

i wonder if i will have to re-earn blessings if i already have all of them

[patent wing]

ive tried the boltpistol and i dont think its good on psyker

cant aim fast enough after shooting, not enough carapace dmg, and against bosses its just straight up worse then ciag - esp because it doesnt restore much toughness

and you need 5 shots to open up a bulwark lo

[analog agate]

Sounds like yes. You earn them through leveling up mastery. Question is, what is the “head start” we get for that

[marble crater]

Credits or whatever to unlock/buy the blessings again, by the sounds of it

So getting the blessings again should only be a matter of pressing some buttons

[upper sun]

so whats the new warren cheese spot?

[marble crater]

Some teams used the spot where you press the button even before the change, why not that?

[analog agate]

Depends on how much xp they give us. Looks like we just choose which blessings to upgrade looking at the pic

[upper sun]

snipers

im thinking one of these two

[hearty oak]

Probably all of the earned exp we have gotten over the past year

(One can hope)

[marble crater]

Clearly not the second one, because your teammate is calling you back

[analog agate]

Considering the mastery xp from 5-6 in that pic is 1820… doubt it. But, if that is the same we earn now, 1 auric game should give, what, 6-7 levels?

[marble crater]

Why would it be linked to player level?

[patent wing]

btw confirmed las pistol has more boss dps than ciag now

[analog agate]

🤷‍♂️ Im just talking out of my ass. Idk

[upper sun]

i like the first one more as well

[marble crater]

Either way, surely the update is not far away now if we already had a devblog right now, right? Right?

[analog agate]

Only ~3 months. Not far away on a cosmic scale

[patent wing]

after their 6 month xmas holiday

[analog agate]

They definitely only released this because of that spanish article

[marble crater]

There were two articles now
Whatever the reason, I'm not mad about it

[patent wing]

what are u talkin bout

[upper sun]

btw

do not mash the last button in the new mission

itll be very funny and frustrating

[marble crater]

There were two websites with articles about the crafting update in the last few days

One had an outdated picture, which got us the message about locks being removed

[upper sun]

once more

special thanks to the entire nation of spain for forcing fatsharks hand

[analog agate]

I found it out last night haha. Button actually controls the panels going up and down to take out the iced cogs. I thought it was just telling me to keep pushing it

[calm sapphire]

bug?

[upper sun]

no pink man group applicant

[stiff falcon]

who's psyker is chairmanmao

[upper sun]

me(not me)

[marble crater]

Last time ogryn had that bug

[upper sun]

man the shotgun crosshairs are disgusting

[dry zenith]

your textures are missing like my plasteel

[near wyvern]

Nah. Blessed by our Beloved.

[marble crater]

Change them

[upper sun]

i can?

[marble crater]

There is an option to change them now, not sure if it's for all weapons or only specific ones though

[upper sun]

oh yeah

now were gaming

[jovial juniper]

Tried Perfectionism and became purple

[marble crater]

Tried to play my first mission today and crashed while walking to the first encounter

[upper sun]

swedish engineering

[marble crater]

Guess I will play something else then

[upper sun]

play vt2

its on gamepass

[marble crater]

I already have a backlog of games, I don't need more

[upper sun]

ooooo tell me

[marble crater]

I want to finish AC Valhalla, Control, Dark Souls 2 and 3, by the time I'm done with those there will be new gamepass games I have been waiting for

[upper sun]

imagine playing any AC after 3 🙄

[hard valve]

can someone explain to me what malefic momentum does in the talent tree

[upper sun]

for me nier red dead2 horizon zero something darktisders 3 and detroit become human

[upper sun]

uhhh where is it?

[hard valve]

a bit under assail

on the far right

[upper sun]

oh UNLOCALIZED

[hard valve]

yeah

[upper sun]

you get more damage for kills for the other weapon

[hard valve]

alr ty

[upper sun]

keep switching weapons and youll get more damage

[timber cairn]

any suggestions for the best single-target melee weapons? Been using the IV duelling sword up to now, but I'm not especially happy it takes 4 weakspot strikes with this to get a mauler kill.

[marble crater]

I am a sucker for viking things
Red Dead 2 is a great game if you immerse yourself in it, the attention to detail is crazy. (you should observe people building train tracks)

[brave fiber]

ds4 is the best psykers got, and its a pretty damn good option overall

[marble crater]

In a perfect world, this sword but with carapace instead of flak

[upper sun]

real my old pc cant run im gonna have to wait till next year or if it ever drops on geforce now

[timber cairn]

yeah the flak roll was annoying 😦

[timber cairn]

yeah...I was kinda hoping something had overtaken it since the update.

[marble crater]

[timber cairn]

3-4 weakspot hits to kill a mauler/crusher when you've got 4 of them coming isn't ideal

[upper sun]

pretty sure it should be two shots if you hit a weakspot

[timber cairn]

might be. Could be a skill issue. Im always aiming for head but sometimes doesn't register

[upper sun]

WELL almost two

[marble crater]

I also like riposte instead of precog

[upper sun]

mine has carap maniacs and uncanny 3 on it

if you have uncanny 4 you should be able to two shot them

or higher pen

[analog agate]

4 is considered the best one

[upper sun]

this is what i use

[long stone]

Take the deimos sword pill and toothpick crushers on their asses

[brave fiber]

if you really want single target run gunker

top 2 ways to build psyker imo

[upper sun]

2.1 swings without any warpsiphon charges or perfect timing stacks btw

and zero peril

so you should reliably do it with any damage buffs

[brazen rampart]

Use that with scrier's gaze and disrupt destiny. You'll be two shotting maulers on damnation. Otherwise, take the deimos pill.

[brave fiber]

(you also dont even need dd stacks lmao its that op)

[brazen rampart]

I'm just saying you basically always have dd at max if you know what you're doing.

Scrier's is just insult to injury.

I don't want to say a 1shot is possible, but I feel like it is.

[stiff falcon]

it is

with dd

[timber cairn]

https://streamable.com/21jn9y

[upper sun]

did you mean maulers or crushers?

[brazen rampart]

Maulers.

I feel like max dd and scrier's with a proper dsmk4 can 1shot maulers.

I wouldn't put my money on it, though.

[sacred crane]

When I get home and make a proper double barrel shotgun, gonna make the anti-psyker build

[brave fiber]

with some extremely rough testing right now i can hit a 2575 crit without dd stacks on a mauler, not even max scriers stacks

absolutely possible

[brazen rampart]

Just saying that because I feel like maulers don't even slow me down in a horde when I'm using that setup.

[brazen rampart]

Mmm delicious damage.

[haughty star]

What kinda ds4 you got Mines like 2 sometimes even 1 lol

[brazen rampart]

He's either hitting bodyshots or not using the right build for the sword.

[brave fiber]

might be assuming 0 uncanny stacks

[timber cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1255631664294658048/image.png?ex=667dd59d&is=667c841d&hm=4b7226fe2898e277b26d77f4d13d11e8799a95dbb7415455b294785b0e2c2609&

[brazen rampart]

Oof, if you're basing your damage off 0 uncanny stacks, big rip.

Even if you dink off the helmet it's better to hit him with 5 lights and then start poking just for max uncanny stacks.

[timber cairn]

duly noted

[brazen rampart]

Alternatively, you could just whack trash mobs to get uncanny going.

[timber cairn]

yeah forgot about the UC xd. Not sure I wanna go down the scriers route, too obsessed with the purga big numbers + survivability. But yeah the DS has been perplexing me recently. Will try the light-spam strat.

[brave fiber]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/i9jrgClG2Up-yYoBB/d13370BycvJo?invite=cr-MSxzVmcsNzE1NTk5Mjgs

so close to one shotting mauler without dd

[timber cairn]

the mauler 2-hit is impressive

[timber cairn]

ye

[brave fiber]

if this ds didnt have poop penetration it would

67%

[timber cairn]

💩

[brazen rampart]

I'm about to hop into the psykhanium to check, myself.

I cannot 1shot with my current sword but I get him low enough that I can light his big toe and he dies.

For practical purposes (assuming your teammates aren't being utterly useless), you can 1shot.

[brave fiber]

you would need a near perfect 380 ds4 to one shot a crusher without dd on a crit i feel

[static needle]

So I heard they broke the game even more with this update, what got borked this time?

[brazen rampart]

Oh, also, that's without any dd or precog proc.

So actually, yeah, you actually can 1shot.

[brave fiber]

err

mauler mb

[brazen rampart]

With no stacks of scrier's or uncanny it does take 4 pokes.

3 if you use the light spam method of getting uncanny up.

Still 3 if you have 5 stacks of uncanny with no extra buffs.

(this is assuming uncanny 3 as that's what is on my sword)

[brave fiber]

if you get 2 crits you still can 2 shot

starting w nothing

[brazen rampart]

Well, we are also assuming no crits.

[haughty star]

does having the 7.5 elite damage aura change breakpoints at all for empowered brain burst?

[plucky flax]

I've never seen anyone light 5 times for uncanny stacks rather than just heavy poking and get slow stacks build up.

[brazen rampart]

Yeah, because there's typically trash mobs better suited for your light attacks nearby.

[brave fiber]

tbf if youre using ds4 right you're gonna have perma 5 stacks uncanny anyways

[brazen rampart]

Read a little further down from that.

[brazen rampart]

If you don't have permanent 5 uncanny stacks, are you even using your dsmk4 correctly?

[plucky flax]

Not much trash mobs in melee scab only.

[brazen rampart]

Yeah let's use a special condition as a basis for a standard bit of math.

That makes total sense.

[brave fiber]

are you even using your dsmk4 correctly?

[marble crater]

If you have permanent 5 uncanny stacks, are you even using your staff correctly?

[brave fiber]

more like

[brazen rampart]

Listen, man, I run voidstrike on a scrier build.

[brave fiber]

insane man

[brazen rampart]

I am always using my staff correctly.

[plucky flax]

Okay I use the worst weapon in the game I don't know what I'm doing.

It's blaze trauma.

[brazen rampart]

Better question is, what the hell am I aiming at?

Jokes aside the point blank voidstrike headshot with guaranteed crit is so nasty it ain't even funny.

[brave fiber]

ima be real ever since i got a good blaze trauma and discovered how broken gunker is i havent touched any other staffs or weapons

[brazen rampart]

I have not and will not use a blaze trauma.

[marble crater]

Surge and Blaze Trauma for me

[marble crater]

Blocked

[brazen rampart]

Your loss.

Learning to use a surge staff, though.

Peril management is rather difficult with it.

[marble crater]

Shriek is your peril management if you spam it, as you should

[brave fiber]

i dont see peril as something that can kill me its just the +crit chance stat

which gets me in trouble often but its ok

[stiff falcon]

Psyker headache

[sacred crane]

What would you all consider to be the worst melee and firearm for psyker? Gonna make the funny build

[marble crater]

Whichever the worst devil claw is maybe?

and shredder autopistol?

[sacred crane]

Id thought chainaxe tbh

[marble crater]

Psyker doesn't have chainaxe, no?

[long wharf]

Itemization dev-blog looks promising

[sacred crane]

Wait wa-

Fuck ur right

[brave fiber]

id say one of the tactical axes, they aint great

[long wharf]

Bolt pistol is easily the worst gun right now

[sacred crane]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh

Id take a bolt pistol over a recon or auto

And the heavy laspistol, the slow one

[brave fiber]

i dont think its worse than the recons i was about to say lol

dont diss columnus tho its super good

[analog agate]

Wait… the columnus is good?

[marble crater]

It's arguably the best gunker weapon

[analog agate]

I know

It is arguably psykers best weapon haha

[rocky yarrow]

walls start melting when you use it

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-explosion-mind-blowing-gif-15577755

[hearty oak]

The bulwark when i start BBing it

[haughty star]

the second time*

no joke tho bb should be more strong

[hearty oak]

Base version? Sure. Id opt it for an AoE cast targeting the elites

Otherwise. Not a whole lot they can do for it other than make omega fast for casting and letting you BB yourself (Very big buff)

[marble crater]

Get rid of flayer

[tiny oracle]

what blessings do you guys run on illisi?

[upper sun]

slaughter/executor slaughter/uncanny slaughter/deflector depends on which build

[tiny oracle]

how bad is blazing spirit?

[upper sun]

on illisi? useless

[sacred crane]

Good on trauma, horrid on swords

[tiny oracle]

havnt been able to roll anything good yet so been using one with blazing spirit executor

its been working really well defencively ngl

[upper sun]

stop crafting

i wish they told me about the update before i spent 10k plasteel smh

[tiny oracle]

im too impatient to wait for updates

[hearty oak]

Its bad on swords sadly. Contrary to popular believe but you can get away with bloodthirsty and executor as well for a damage sword

[hearty oak]

We have like... several months before that arrives

[upper sun]

use all of them to hoard plasteel

what are you gonna do in 5 months?

craft 4 good weapons?

[hearty oak]

Play steel hunters. play another game

occasionally hop on to play and bolt pistol some heretics

[tiny oracle]

maybe it just works since i usually run a shriek spam build

and the toughness regen from warp kills really come in clutch sometimes

kill something with special, spread some blaze on the next cleave, they typically die and start spreading 4 stacks with wildfire, shriek and everything is now at 10 warpfire stacks and start melting

its basicly only used for large hordes, i surge most other things

[hearty oak]

I use illisi if im lacking in CC capabilities. But i try to steer from that cause The poke from deimos one-shotting mutants is addicting

[haughty star]

im running shield and bb on regular old damnation and it's kinda fun ngl

[tiny oracle]

ive been using ds4 that does that same thing but just wanna try something else

special on ds4 also comes in clutch quite a bit

[marble crater]

That's not how wildfire works sadly, the 4 stacks are shared among all the enemies, so more likely you get 4 enemies with 1 stack each

[hearty oak]

I harfdly ever do that unless its to stun a crusher

[haughty star]

honestly rampage could be goated with ds4 doing cleave now

plus rampage is power rather than damage

[tiny oracle]

did they change rampage?

[haughty star]

i was told rampage actually is power despite the wording

[tiny oracle]

can help against squads of ragers charging you aswell, those lunges can be brutal if there are 3-4 or more on you at the same time

[hollow current]

special on the duelling swords is good for building uncanny stacks too.

[tiny oracle]

also ive made it a habit to always spec after a heavy since its basicly instant and helps stack uncanny faster

[hollow current]

Poke special poke special.

[tiny oracle]

can also save teammates caught by mutants quite reliably

[haughty star]

i really am having fun with bb and shield tho lol it's kinda different

never really run shield

like

ever

[tiny oracle]

been running shriek spam too much, i would blow myself up way too often with shield

[haughty star]

bb ain't bad for it

using a column for backup lol

https://tenor.com/view/got-it-on-me-gun-packing-packing-heat-watch-it-gif-18377971

[rich spindle]

Wait what

This is the first timw ive heard that

[haughty star]

too bad it's got sussy fire

[sacred crane]

too bad its got deez nuts on yo face

[restive ice]

who need they columnussy ate

[sacred crane]

no offense but of course the person with a pfp of THAT game would ask that

[wind spruce]

I have one question about the itemisation devblog

Do earned blessings of all tiers contribute to our "head start"?

Ie, should we be scrapping weapons for tier 3 and below blessings?

[tired jackal]

double barrel need a lil help, just a tad

[upper sun]

🤔 i dont see why not

[tiny oracle]

that would be my guess, however based on how the current system works i would guess that the head start will be heavily weighted towards t4 blessings

but of course that is pure speculation

[wind spruce]

Even if tier 4 is 3-5x as much exp that's still worth it across the board to get a lot of the tier 3s

Bloody hell, Reddit

It's not THAT hard

[upper sun]

I am now officially broke on melkbucks for the first time since i started the game

[tiny oracle]

good shout!

[hardy raft]

i always was

[upper sun]

headhunter 4 for recon?

GIMMIE

[tiny oracle]

hmm, does that mean we loose our unlocked blessings when the rework launches?

the head start is definetly not bringing us to maxed already

[upper sun]

no unlocked blessings give you progression in the new system

[hardy raft]

idk

[tiny oracle]

yes, but that progression will start from 0

[wind spruce]

Hang on

[hardy raft]

us whales will have ample time to get shit

[wind spruce]

Do these stats add up to more than we have atm

[tiny oracle]

t4 blessings will definetly be at the end

and the head start probably wont get you maxed right off the bat

[wind spruce]

My brain is addled atm and can't think

[hardy raft]

aside from 2 76%

i think its 380?

[buoyant maple]

It is prob the hardest map in the game rn

[wind spruce]

But that adds up to 384?

[buoyant maple]

Those add to 384 years

[hardy raft]

oh wait pen is 78%

fun

[wind spruce]

So unless that's some wild rounding errors

[buoyant maple]

And it’s not yet fully upgraded

[wind spruce]

Exactly

[buoyant maple]

Max could be 400

[wind spruce]

Bc isn't the combined modifier cap atm 380?

[buoyant maple]

Yes

But

As long as the dmg related stats are fine

Not a huge difference

[hardy raft]

if they release 80% softcap

[buoyant maple]

The new system just allows u to make ur weapons as good as they can possibly be if u grind for it

[hardy raft]

who knows what wild bullshits gonna be in the game

[wind spruce]

It's still a 20 point increase (potentially)

No more dump stats

[tiny oracle]

might even be worth it to pick up everything you can from armory for blessings just to min-max

[wind spruce]

That's what I want to know

Do I buy all the blues that have low tier blessings I haven't unlocked

I'd really like to, you know, have stuff like surge on day 1

[lunar hollow]

the teaser shows blessing tiers preserved in the new system. i imagine it'll work similarly to that

[buoyant maple]

I was psychotic enough to get every blessing of every tier on every weapon type for veteran

[tiny oracle]

everything at this point is just pure speculation, think of it like buying bitcoin when they were only cents each. maybe you strike gold, maybe you just wasted all your money, its all in the gamble

[lunar hollow]

datamined info shows blessings like bloodthirsty getting tiers

which is interesting

[buoyant maple]

Could be related to the buff duration cuz it’s 5s rn

[wind spruce]

They seemed to imply even long term players wouldn't have instant access to tier 4s

[lunar hollow]

no. it's for the crit chance

[buoyant maple]

Huh, that’s interesting

[buoyant maple]

I’m ok with it tbh, at least it’s grind with meaning behind it

[lunar hollow]

i assume it'll be to remove tier-exclusive blessings

[wind spruce]

I can live with it IF they rework enough of the blessing mechanics that things feel fresh

Which it looks like they might well be

[wind spruce]

That makes sense

Hence the Surge buff

[upper sun]

there is no way in hell its gonna be less grindy than getting half the gear i EDC

[wind spruce]

Oh yeah, still a massive win

[upper sun]

at this point its just gonna help me change a few perks and upgrade some blessings

[lunar hollow]

i'm going to be sad if stuff like manstopper gets removed

[upper sun]

but still i cant fucking wait

[lunar hollow]

stripped down was just +sprint speed until they added the ranged immunity condition, and for a patch they co-existed and then they removed the sprint speed

[upper sun]

they added numbers to it must mean its getting tiers

[lunar hollow]

now manstopper gets +impact

[upper sun]

what

[lunar hollow]

it would be so fuckin funny if they just made it a ranged impact blessing

[upper sun]

why

[lunar hollow]

it's currently the cleave + 15% impact

[upper sun]

i just saw numbers and didnt read the rest

IMPACT

oh yeah my shotgun really needs more of that

[lunar hollow]

[hardy raft]

hey

more damage for no respite

[upper sun]

🤔

forget what i said

[buoyant maple]

Stagger is sorted in stages

[upper sun]

You laughed at my baby just for being the wrong type

agrishottie is so coming back

[wind spruce]

Does the new shotgun have manstopper

[upper sun]

yes

[buoyant maple]

On a zealot this would have been peak

[wind spruce]

I keep being told to put full bore on it

But that sounds dumb af

[buoyant maple]

New shotgun has too wide spread

[wind spruce]

Exactly what I said

[buoyant maple]

Both barrels is BiS
Purely because it gives u a new reload animation

[wind spruce]

Yeah both barrels is what I'm rolling with atm

[upper sun]

unironically tho the extra impact did help

[buoyant maple]

If u take the DB shotgun in the first place u already accepted that you’re playing meme build might as well just lean into the fun

[wind spruce]

It feels so bad ngl

[buoyant maple]

Range is problematic

But it is very fun for 1 tapping every elite besides crusher

And it has insane gore

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049217901825110056/1255564447498637393/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.06.26_-_12.44.28.33.mp4?ex=667d9703&is=667c4583&hm=75763115a87cd3d33c9e6e4ae21357568ce35a2eb4816ff74815f26d8d0578a1&

[wind spruce]

I was struggling to consistently one shot reapers and bulwarks

[buoyant maple]

On Psyker u might be missing a bit of dmg

[hardy raft]

i know

[buoyant maple]

Veteran can 1 tap every elite besides crusher with it

[hardy raft]

more you get to lay that mauler on the floor more damage

[cosmic sigil]

rip

[hardy raft]

even bulwark?

[upper sun]

FRAG OUT

[wind spruce]

Yep, even with 20% unyielding

[cosmic sigil]

increased and not infinite anymore?

[hardy raft]

anyway koreans say if you use it your trolling

so

🤡

guess what im pulling next

[upper sun]

i dont have creature spawner but there is one way i can check

[hardy raft]

it was always increased cleave for desc p sure

[cosmic sigil]

you can proce fb with lmb, and maybe rmb on big targets (i have to try it)

[upper sun]

yup can still cleave through a bulwark backwards

thats as infinite as cleave gets

[buoyant maple]

Point blank 1 headshot yea

[cosmic sigil]

scattershot + double barrel / deathspitter + double barrel / deathspitter + scattershot are viable

[wind spruce]

So really just reapers and bulwarks

[cosmic sigil]

i still need to test fb more and also find manstopper

and bosses

[buoyant maple]

Run&gun + both barrels

[cosmic sigil]

i did not try run and gun

[upper sun]

camp the store for manstopper

or make a new char

it can drop on vet or zealot

[cosmic sigil]

i will probably try run and gun on zealot

also

scattershot 4 is like thrust 4 on hammer

so hard to get

[wind spruce]

Curious what you reckon is best

[cosmic sigil]

i get t3 all the fucking time

[upper sun]

you're so gonna hate me

[wind spruce]

I've rolled scattershot 4 literally like 7 times hehe

[cosmic sigil]

....

[buoyant maple]

Both Barrels + anything that’s not terrifying barrage

[wind spruce]

But it took my 33 upgrades to transcendent to get both barrels 4

[cosmic sigil]

both barrels and scatter shot with scryer gaze is fun

[wind spruce]

That's my current loadout

[cosmic sigil]

i got it on the third try

[wind spruce]

Still doesn't seem any good

I did do 850k in a maelstrom with it

[buoyant maple]

It’s a meme gun

[wind spruce]

But pretty sure that was 90% assail lel

[buoyant maple]

But it’s a fun meme gun

[cosmic sigil]

i think it's viable

[upper sun]

melk

[wind spruce]

I NEED it to be good

[cosmic sigil]

stopping power too low

[upper sun]

blessing

[buoyant maple]

Main issue is lack of range for special sniping

[buoyant maple]

U alrdy got both, neither has magnifying glass on it

[upper sun]

AAAAND manstopper

[cosmic sigil]

i think the shotgun will go well with BR

[upper sun]

ye its baught and surrendered already

[cosmic sigil]

I HATE YOU

[timber cairn]

I'm missing the point. Why are psykers playing anything but Purgatus? 😆

playing anything but the meta? herecy

[upper sun]

manstopper isnt baught because i ranout of melkies

[upper sun]

to releave some eye strain

[timber cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/benstiller-dodgeball-touche-gif-4645075

[cosmic sigil]

so psyker bolt pistol

has anyone tried it?

[wind spruce]

I'd rather have assail to fill the gap

[upper sun]

mid

on all classes

[cosmic sigil]

also, obscurus is the perfect middle ground for me now

[cosmic sigil]

you can pre cook with assail and just blast your way throught what's left with the shotgun

[timber cairn]

everything always sounds good in the hypothesis stage

[buoyant maple]

Yea, range (special sniping ability) is main limitation

[cosmic sigil]

and psyker has workarounds, so does zealot with knives

vet a bit fucked

[sly dawn]

💪

[timber cairn]

that's a beauty

im spoilt on mobility nowadays but everything else is 10/10

how much i buy?

[hardy raft]

nice work

[hardy raft]

fast boyo

[feral knoll]

“Man this shotgun is looking good! I sure hope Hadeon doesn-“

terrifying barrage

“EUAHH! AH! GET IT AWAY!”

[half iron]

first blessing i got on the shotgun was terrifying barrage 4😢

[rich spindle]

Learn it for the mastery head start :3

[potent echo]

To prepare for the new system

Means you must start hunting all the tier 1 and tier 2 blessings

[upper sun]

learning so much fr fr

pretty sure @buoyant maple has like t1-t4 on the majority of weapons in the game

bro was ahead of the time

[potent echo]

He cooka the pizza

[sacred crane]

[upper sun]

since when do crushers come at you from all sides?

bruh

[potent echo]

Nice ending

I know this map

They jumped down from the outside railing

But only some of them

The rest took the stairs, goodbye

[feral knoll]

Smite Psyker is so fun bro trust me

Smite Psyker gameplay: Right click, left click. Hold. Repeat

[potent echo]

It is fun

[dusk void]

It is fun, but just not for me. It kills the mechanics of my gameplay

[viscid heath]

Best place to find builds?

[dusk void]

Have you clutched it with crushers hording you before?

[dusk void]

Just ask in this chat. Someone will critique it and give you suggestions

Fuck the website

[upper sun]

only as ogryn

[dusk void]

I did it with psyker. Man, that rending trauma staff does a lot with killing armored elites

[upper sun]

i got leave no man behind

i didnt revive anyone all game i only helped two downed people

???????????????????????????????????????????????

[dusk void]

Exactly, leave no man/woman behind

[upper sun]

dont you have to rescue 3 people on a mission to get it?

[viscid heath]

My flame staff build. What yinz think about it?

[upper sun]

going scriers is a chad move more power to you

but i have some bad news about the staff

the burn stat is whats important not damage

[potent echo]

You don't want carapace or crit damage either

[upper sun]

oh yeah

flak as a perk 100%

[viscid heath]

Damn

[dusk void]

Personally, get rid of the toughness regens. Psykers have lots of toughness regens on thier talent tree alone

[potent echo]

Carapace you put on your melee and uncanny blessing

Burn and swap, uncanny with fire will melt all carapace

[upper sun]

surge/purge/trauma target center mass of enemies which is flak for the majority

[viscid heath]

Hmm

[upper sun]

yeah dreg/scab gunners both have flak as center mass despite one being unarmored and one flak over all

[analog agate]

Just tried playing ogryn today. I don't understand how anyone can stand playing ogryn, The amount of times I am "relegated" to dealing with gunners when my build is horde/specials is so frustrating. Maybe it is just the shitty playerbase atm. Back to psyker/vet

[upper sun]

non stop heavy attacks

brain off

hit stuff and rush every once n a while

[lethal lagoon]

Literally just rush into gunners

[dusk void]

Although I would say to get a better sword with good base ratings. A 330 sword with 55% Damage is questionable, but that is not a bad sword to use starting off

[lethal lagoon]

You are immortal as long as you are heavy attacking

[analog agate]

Ik think I also just god damn hate the ogryn play style

So some of it is me. But I also become keenly aware when I rely on other people as ogryn how inept they are

[upper sun]

@viscid heath
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies/dreg-gunner
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies/scab-gunner

look at the armor breakdown

[viscid heath]

Thanks a lot

[upper sun]

np

[dusk void]

I also hate playing as the ogryn.

[ripe obsidian]

My ogryn games typically end up as everyone running away while I'm left behind getting filled with bullets

Then they all die and I have to try to clutch on my least-played class.

[sacred crane]

most baller build

[potent echo]

Can agree it's hard to clutch on ogryn

Dodge delay oof

[analog agate]

Yeah, my experience with ogryn. People rush to fight horde. Leave all the gunners shooting me as I try and keep up with specials spawning on me. At least when I am fast on psyker I kill EVERYTHING along the way. God damn do I hate playing ogryn haha

[lethal lagoon]

No.

[analog agate]

I can see he is fun with premades. But just horrible in pubs

[lethal lagoon]

Just survive and mobs will start to despawn

[feral knoll]

Ogryn is either. Turn your brain off and pick one of three

Spam heavy attacks
Be tanky
Go pew pew pew

Maybe a mix of them all

[hearty oak]

autopistol
Please god have obese fish just buff it once

[broken carbon]

why is psyker so fragile

blehh

[sacred crane]

it would make sense for the high horde clear, infinite resources and having the possibility for the best boss dps or dps in general to die easily

[broken carbon]

i get it

it’s just

even sub-optimal positioning, not even bad, or just poor luck, and it’s insta dead

[urban crystal]

do any of the new weapons have any fun or cool builds for psykers? asking for a friend whos disapointed with no new magic weapons

[sacred crane]

psyker has the fastest stamina regen for a reason

[broken carbon]

?

[orchid shadow]

That means you're not butt-scooting enough.

[sacred crane]

stamina delay:
veteran/ogryn is 1 second
zealot is 0.75
psyker is 0.50

[broken carbon]

i know that

just

what you meant by that

i just wish there was an unchained psyker

[sacred crane]

unchained???

[broken carbon]

from vermintide 2

unchained fire wizard

super tanky fire wizard

that excelled in melee at high heat/overcharge (perils)

[sacred crane]

have u heard of mettle + scriers gaze

[broken carbon]

yeah

but it’s not the same

[sacred crane]

plus you cant have a class with huge damage and horde clear to be tanky asf

especially if they can shoot forever and not use ammo or grenades

[broken carbon]

that’s why unchained was worse with ranged in VT2

and while she excelled in melee, she wasn’t usually the fastest horde clear option

[potent echo]

Unchained uwu

[sacred crane]

also not to mention psyker is a crit MACHINE

[sacred crane]

what can be done

[upper sun]

blessings arent awful

[vapid lichen]

speaking of the shotgun what do we want on it

[sacred crane]

im thinking scatter to both barrels and sprint to flak tbh

[upper sun]

a vet

[sacred crane]

the meta rn is fullbore/both barrels and flak/maniac/elite

[sacred crane]

is there away to add both barrels?

[upper sun]

tbh id say swap fullbore

i have it on kickback and i only ever use it on bosses

since it has a weird thing with pellet count and unyielding

[upper galleon]

is the meta fullbore?

i heard it's inconsistent asf

[sacred crane]

i swapped scattershot for both barrels

since well

psyker alreay crits tons

[potent echo]

I don't believe in fullbore for this gun lol

[sacred crane]

especially as gunker

[potent echo]

You need to be kissing them

Then you get a buff for your next shot and that's about it

[sacred crane]

also: full bore is pretty disgusting for boss dps

disgusting in a good way

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/d/b/db649894c5b00c27825a2166dc36bd5beebb1fa4.mp4

bruh

can fatshark chill with the ultra fine 9 trillion polygon ollision meshes

fatshark tooth brush

[potent echo]

You know all the walls and floor in DT are actually flat textures

[upper sun]

that is actually not true

[potent echo]

At all?

[upper sun]

ive gotten stuck under some crap on the wall in relay station start

i was slideing and i got stuck in crouch next to the wall

all the maps are so fucking edgy

you know the big fan that spins on top of assassination middle event?

you can bounce stuff off it

[potent echo]

I was more referring to like nuts and bolts on the surface of the wall and stuff

Other more complicated geometry well

[upper sun]

some of it sure but the whole thing is so fucking pointy no wonder it takes them forever to make maps

[potent echo]

Art team: its done when it's done

I also hate uneven floors

Trying to dodge on train tracks lol, lmao

[upper sun]

that one dev carefully sculpting each bolt on each metal step while occasionally checking for GW strike teams out the window 🫡

"if i smooth out one screw the lore police will come get me"

[potent echo]

Ogryn's nipples are showing!
Turns around and 20 Pinkerton agents

[upper sun]

smh we could have had bulge sliders if it werent for them 😭

[potent echo]

I'm just imagine how much malding was at HQ when skinny ogryn first appeared

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/9/7/9720f8eb52ac8f1982935d781046b9b5abdedfe2.mp4

OH NONONONONONO