#psyker-class
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They already do
Give zealot power sword
Give zealot, zealot
When another zealot get's trapped, you can pick them up and use them as a flail with the net.
Actually viable on the Mk15
give the zealoted zealot a hammer they can barely hold through the net
Long range horde clear
whats your blitz
BB
yes
use it
oh ok ok
i mean idk what other options your tree has but i use it
kinda mid
if you're going EP you have enough points for toughness on peril gain/loss+kill/crit and thats kinda more than enough
My talent tree
its pretty fat on BB, youre often take ranged chip while channeling anyway, and its teamwide
and it procs a lot
for what staff?
I'm between void and force
mettle and perfect timing are huge tho
abd wildfire+ second bb upgrade are not great on void
ye second upgrade isnt good in general
disrupt destiny
uhhhh it should count as a weakspot kill
but since it doesnt work in meatgrinder i cant check
if you wanna use EP trauma is kind of a better option
since BB is kinda similar to what void does
ye
i mean do what you want
but i agree void overlaps with BR
and DD is so good for void
everything is playable except shredder auto gun 
I'm not really sure,I'm trying to play psyker since I started to use more the vet,and I don't have a clear build i want
lmao
and what about smite+void+EP?
LMAO
we dont do support psyker here
so which keystone is good for smite?
smite is just good by itself
oh well
so take whats good for your weapons
And I'm not using assail,I hate it
Yeah it's weird
i hate how most use it
lol
it still needs a rework
Yeah
IT is
the insta-zappy left click is fun
yay 😄
right click can eat it tho
Who the fuck uses Scrier's gaze?
me

other way around and yes
br is a weakspot hit so it stacks it up
but it doesnt crit so it wont consume it
or isnt ranged? whichever
assail both works and gains crit from it
And do you think it's a good ability?
way faster than smite on killing enemies, free bullets every 2 seconds to deal with long range stuff, auto-im for moatly head
It's balanced with the others
its a great ability
It's great with DD
psyker blitz tehd to generate lot of peril
yeah ik
You just gotta get used to the peril
however i know more or less the amount of perill BR will generate
Weave in some quells when you can if you start to get high
Assails are at base 10 LMB or 25 RMB
Btw,any good ability for Assail?Maybe the dome?

If I take voidstrike I take shriek
Otherwise i don't take assail anyway personally
Just my own builds
I hate how Assail is on the right side of the tree, like I use no builds with it 😔
lol
The only real loss from taking Assail is Psy Aura
Which is kinda big
But you can still get Shriek
Yeah but u loose access to prob the 2 best nodes in the entire tree 😭
fuck me how hard is it to stop BoN fire damage
You can't get the elite damage aura either but ain't nobody give no fucks about that
Should I use it?I use it to safe my ass from perill
on the other hand, right side has malefic momentum
Aka the entire reason to take Shriek in the first place
Never take Shriek without Creeping Flames
It is shit
But Creeping Flames might be the overall strongest offensive ability in the game
Maybe I have too much nodes used here
The top of the tree is great
Skip battle meditation unless you are EP smite or Scrier's
oh oki
Get Mettle unless you are rending shockwave Trauma
And get Perilous Combustion
Consider dropping Warp Replenishment
Warp Expenditure maybe
Can't remember the name
Middle right toughness gen node
Peril goes up = toughness goes up one
yeah
But the other stuff at the top is borderline essential
Which ranged weapon?
void
I wouldn't bother seriously
does solidity even work with blitz quelling or just staves?
Take Disrupt Destiny and save the 3 points on the left leg
i have them
No
the you can move while venting also works with blitzes
EP assail is ok
oh i confused
i use both on ep smite
XD
But you haven't lived until you have seen the power of Disrupt Destiny voidstrike
DD is also good yeah
DD is kinda op now and only gets sleeped on cause noone really plays gunpsyker
I shit you not
speaking of we should get more staffs
yeeeeee we need
On top of megaboosting your voidstrike and your melee
Ask your librarian if Disrupt Destiny is right for you
Disrupt Destiny is not responsible for delusions of grandeur, suicidal behaviour chasing after blue Bois, or extreme megalomania
Take Lingering influence
Optionally take the weakspot gives triple stacks
And Curel fortune?
oh
always always take lingering
But take lingering unless you hate yourself
no
lol
tbh
It is miserable without it
perfectionist or bust
in theorey you can run the 4 second
you ride blue til u die
Remember if you have peril issues you always have Shriek
and it'd be actually high risk high reward gameplay
What about this?
or use lingering and low risk high reward
ogryn packs demolishing your team? dgaf cuz they aint blu, gl fellas
CF must
Consider changing to Perfectionist once you get used to the power of z
Lingering
extends your decay from 10->30
yeah,I thought so
Remember it takes 12s to lose a weakspot kill with perfectionist
30s with lingering
Lingering will do you much better on bosses
And it is already enough to one shot crushers
You want Carapace, Surge and Warp Nexus on your staff
I forget which other perk
Maybe maniac
i want a staff that looks like a gun, i wodner if 40k has those
psylencers are for GK so doesnt count
Maybe unyielding
Any suggestion?
yeah
Assail crits a lot and it saves you a lot of damage
makes sense
And boom you have the exact copy of my void build lol
and what melee weapon?I'm between Illisi and Deimos
I take Illisi
lmao
Because my void kills anything I would use a Deimos or DS4 on
But is vulnerable to enemies going wide
Also the reason why I take Shriek and assail
I'm lost with psyker blessings
Mine is slaughterer Bloodthirsty but that usually gets boos lol
Slaughterer uncanny probably best
But I can't help liking Bloodthirsty on it
Lovely mettle/DD synergies
And EE
Anyway sleepy time
Murder some heretics
Full Raiden is combining it with a pure mid lane spec
The wha
rescue 3 people
There's a penance for it?
ye finish a mission after rescuing 3 people from captivity
im esp pissed at that one because i had help with it, i cheesed it once with bots and i did it organically once
never got it
What's it called?
force greatsword when?
has to be 3 different people :)))
made all the more difficult because if you clutch people immediately go for the other pickups when you free them
it is a stupid penance
yoo would anyone have some good combat knife 6 psyker gameplay to share? i'm sucking using the knife and would love to see how its suppose to be done
Wasn't my best game but should still show you how to use it
awesome thank you!!
Nah man assail is shit
whats the mod that shows your current crit chance?
I hate assail :[
assail will buy you toilet paper but it wont wipe your ass 
Assail is great
Assail's great but it's gotta be used appropriately
you usually swap between it and your other shit rapidly
it lets you use ranged attacks on the move a lot better than any other Psyker option
it wont kill horde thats in your face attacking you, chuck them before they reach you, or swap to melee
show crit chance (yes, literally)
with well timed quick swaps you can use assail while you're in melee
weave it in between attacks
yea thats how you use it because assail takes maybe 0.8seconds before they u-turn and hit the horde in your face, so it doesnt let you ignore meleeing
split your dodge/jump keybind into separate keys and spam dodge
Most of your best toughness Regen talents are at the very top of the tree, above the grenades. If you find yourself constantly generating and quelling peril then the 2 middle talents help you regen toughness. If you're killing multiple enemies with warp attacks (Purg staff or Void Strike) then the regen 7.5% toughness per Warp Kill is your best toughness regen. If you're using a weapon and build with high crit chance then you go on the right side of the talents for toughness regen and movement speed per critical hit made.
Then you have a 11% - 33% toughness damage reduction versus ranged enemies, based on peril, as a way to counter ranged enemies, along with critical hits make you immune to range attacks for 1 or 2 seconds. Can't remember exactly the number.
that's where I would start on learning how best to remain alive as psyker.
I'd suggest taking the ones that best fit your build, rather than taking all of them.
use push too, its 360°
Toughness talents are super neat on psyker, but you will always be pretty squishy, unless blocking
I take a lot of the toughness gain talents
And empathic evasion etc
The only one that I usually omit is the middle right one at the top because I can't budget it in, but when I take EP or DD I normally end up taking that too
Similarly I prefer the toughness gain Warp Siphon talent to its peril reduction alternative
We have a multilayer damage avoidance model
But if something breaches through you get chunked
What's a good build for voidstaff?
Assail, Shriek or shield, Disrupt Destiny.
People won't like it, but this is mine
It's what I've used on surge before
But then having no psykinetic aura sucked ass
Yeah not having Psykentic's is sad, but I want a build with Assail 
I like it
You generate a lot of peril if you assail weave with void so having solidity really helps
I also like it for a bit of consistency across builds. Can't have the last DD talent, but once you actually reached your max stacks and just need to maintain them it's not that bad, imo.
Shriek, void & assail is the best combo available to maintain/gain stacks so it makes sense as a trade off
No assail recharge? D:
No 
I use assail less than on gunker, so it's fine with void having infinite ammo you can spam instead
Or just dont 
That helps, thanks
Heyy, idk if this is the right channel to ask in but I just got the game and I was wondering if anyone has any good tips for how to utilise psykers in the best way possible :)
Hey, learning to watch your peril and not blow your own head off helps a lot
First rule of psyker: don't get hit, because you are made of wet paper. The sooner you are good at melee; dodging, blocking, pushing, the better
Try to remember that your blitz are tools for specific jobs and to not main them and be a helpless psyker. Try to be as versatile in your build, 1 weapons for elites/specialists, 1 weapon for hordes and 1 weapon to supplement one or the other.
Ah so that’s what happens when your get to 100%? Haha haven’t gotten there yet but good to know!
The blitz are my special abilities, correct? Like the things I can upgrade in my skill tree?
Just dont cast anything past 95% as a rule of thumb
Yes
Ohh I haven’t even thought about special weapons for elites and such yet, I gotta look that up and see what’s good
Surge is good. Just be mindful of the quick peril buildup
surge staff*
Like brain burst is what you would take if you are lacking high single target DPS and talents that speed it up cause base BB is slow as molasses
Ok I did a fire build with the flaming abilities on elite kill then brain burst and the fire staff and the ability that makes you have free warp uses
That all comes together to burn everything
Burn everything is a very nice build
purge is pretty based ngl
Surge is a pretty tough call for finished staff
There's not really a dump stat there
You should almost always be taking perilous combustion no matter the build. One of those talents that's just to strong to justify not running
whats a good perk and what stat should i focus on Maccabian Mk IV Duelling Sword
nvm i found out
It's
Uncanny
Always uncanny
The other one is preference but most recommend riposte
I prefer rampage for helping it with hording
Carapace and flak are good stats to run for all purpose or the tried and true flakiak, crit chance and unyielding for a bossing sword
I prefer lmb and shift+w
Maniac and Carapace, my beloved
Damn, just tried out the dueling saber for the first time. It’s awesome.
What would the god roll on the Mk 2 of it be?
A Mk4 
a mk4
High finesse, high pen, uncanny+riposte/Precog
Cara+ flak iirc
Also the Mk4 is the meta pick
Mk2 my beloved light spammer 
mk2 would be great on a zealot
I use a mk2 on my surge build sometimes, for the horde clear while still having DS mobility
Okay, thanks.
or a mk5
But the horde clear is yeah, if you want that just use an illisi
for your question, a godroll atleast to me would be 61% mobillity, 79% cleave damage and rest 80% with flak, maniac/crit chance, uncanny4 and riposte4
nuh uhhhh carap maniac uncanny shred
Critspot has good damage, not sure how that would go toe to toe with Power
crits also on lights also help with clear
i dont like shred, falls off so easily
and i have no problem keeping a high uptime on riposte anyway
thing is, if you stop attacking it falls off, if you miss it falls off
yeah
especially if you run the perk i forgot the name of that lets you dodge ranged hits on crits
You have to be too careful with shred ):
with that riposte has basicly 100% uptime when you need it
I do not think they interact like that
ive seen it do that
In fact I'm like 85% sure it doesn't
It would be MUCH more widely spoken about here otherwise
it counts as successfully dodging an attack
im 100% sure ive seen it trigger from that
if not the only reason could be that i like sliding around
I'll test it after this game I'm in
Trying it, mk 4 feels really slow
Slow how?
is by chance the finesse stat different?
that affects attack speed
Swings are just slower, fewer in the same time. Can check finesse after this mission
How are you using it? Primary use of dueling swords are heavy pokes against muties and crushers/maulers
Ah, using it for hordes as well
It's not really a horde weapon, like it's okay. With sciers gaze and DD stacks it's good. But if you want something for hordes then it's very low on the list.
The Mk2 would be better than the Mk4 then, but the Mk2 heavy attacks are bad compared to the Mk4
Fair, guessing it’s meant for specials and armored enemies then?
Pretty much, though most specials are better dealt with at a distance. So muties and armored enemies, and bosses, for that Mk4 is your best option. If you want horde clear then illisi is a pssker's best option
Illisi with Uncanny Strike seems universally awesome vs just about anything. Maybe less so vs bosses, I guess
Illisi?
Illisi
Illisi force sword
It's pretty satisfying to tap the special attack and cleave a particularly thick clump of enemies and just decimate them, too.
Ah, thanks
Psyker holy trinity of melee weapons: Illisi, Deimos and DS4
I know the psyker guide suggests nexus with either flurry or surge, but I've also been enjoying flurry and transfer peril for spamming tons of blasts. Is that typically seen as subpar? I've got staves with all of the above combinations and can't really decide which I prefer.
There are some people who enjoy Flurry and Transfer Peril, as long as it works, it works 
Typically you want high peril to deal more damage, but I guess it equals out with the more shots you can spam
I think with a Transfer staff you can get away with Scrier's Gaze if you want to
that's the older style of Voidstrike anyway
tbh I'd say the essential one is Surge for the funny crusher one-shots
With either Nexus (more crits) or Flurry (you can use True Aim to force crits)
@marble crater devblog upo
DEVBLOG
thanks
Do you need +carapace damage to 1-bop crushers?
I think so
Seems like it. I'm doing ~2650 damage with surge in the pskhanium without carapace
I run with DD though
so that adds a bunch too
maybe it's not actually even necessary tbh
maybe you can go without surge
idk
Ah, I don't have DD charged in the pskhanium
So that'd be way more damage
15% base + 30% crit + 37.5% weakpoint. That'd probably do it
Yeah, with 12 stacks of DD and a guaranteed crit, it 1-shots a crusher with 100-200ish damage left over
i sure love the focus going on narrative that im going to hear over and over again
surely i wont get bored of it within 2 days
He's probably one of the random people Sefoni says she senses
Eh, how often do you actively listen to the current mission dialog?
until i get bored
which happens rather quickly
if swagger doesnt ask me to go grab the thermal drill im going to be mad
almost zero mention of new weapons
🛗
goofy ahh name tbh
"swagger"
no way GW signed off on that shit
commodore brother
Oh, goofy as hell. I've just spent a lot of time in the Psykhanium lately and heard Sefoni say things like, "There's a secret Magos on Atoma" or "There's someone on Atoma whose mind is shielded, keep them away from Sefoni" or "Melk has secret teams on Atoma, does Grendyl know?"
"there is a psychic blank in Tertium, the only mind she cannot touch."
What are the best perks for the Illsi?
Depends on what you want to do with it
Uncanny Strike/Slaughterer is great for just bashing people with it
Oh, perks, not blessings.
Maniac/Flak is what I use. Crit chance if you're using Blazing Spirit.
Blessings as well, was thinking of making a full Soulfire build with it as the melee weapon.
Have one with blazing spirit so thought it may be fun.
Shred + Blazing spirit for flamesword
Alright, thanks. So guessing +5% crit chance for a perk as well?
Yeah, if you're trying to get as much fire as possible, you need all the crit
Alright, thanks for the advice
Disclaimer: fire sword is pretty much a meme, don't expect to destroy everything with fire like a purgatus 
Yeah, there really isn't any way to make blazing spirit noticeable.
On the sword, that is
ohhh wait the blank one i havent heard that before
Quotes said by NPC Sefoni, with the exception of tutorial quotes.
Includes Patch #17's gossips in the Meat Grinder. Enjoy!
Timestamps
00:00 Hub Idle
01:46 Interact Dislikes Character
03:34 Interact Likes Character
05:20 First Intro Cinematic
06:05 NPC First Interaction
Meat Grinder Gossip Rumours
06:52 Rumour Cult
08:10 Rumour Escalation
0...
I think it's the last quote in this video
Psykers don't really have other anti-mutant tools outside of melee, so maniacs is a default perk.
Fire sword is a meme and geniunely terrible.
Slaughterer is the default blessing.
The second option can be uncanny, deflector, shred, etc mostly personal preference.
IM GLAD YOU ASKED
its pretty based
tho i came around to battle med
even with creeping its nice
sure
you have one free point 
do it
i changed my mind tbh its not that bad
Nooo 
It's unironically not good
I can't make a build on the site 
It's broken and won't show me anything
it knows you have wrong opinions

Behold, the perfect purge build
we hates it
You may not like it, but its what the perfect build looks like
second purge upgrade
middle EP node
yeah ookay
😤😤
no EE
I can mark down the exact moment I stopped playing darktide till the crafting update
🤢
Tackle your problems head on. No cap

Heh, you didnt crit in the past 5 mins
it doesn't even have the attack combo graphs
Make psykers able to turn into demonhosts 10% of the time if they end up going over 100% Parel
we went through training to make sure that doesnt happen
Might not look Like it to you but this is peak surge staffing
Other than elites instead of CDR, that's literally pinned as the Standard Surge build.
And the image name is "orthodoxsurge"
Surge doesn't have a lot of variability, it's pretty solved. Unless you have a hardon for wildfire.
This is just the tooling around I've done on it. My psykers only like level 100
Arsonists on Atoma? 
Wildfire just isn't good
By the time it do any meaningful damage they already dead lol
Turn on all healthbars, it's easier to see how it operates.
And like many psyker skills, it scales with enemy density.
Anyways, I don't run it on surge.
Unless I'm doing EP smite
cries in Xbox

idk, i dont think i could melt hordes as fast as i currently am doing without wildfire
I like elite damage cuz it gives surge a bit lower breakpoints
kinda fun to just look at how the damage snowballs as the enemies starts dying
If you actually test it it's really sad lol
Wildfire on Surge 
Wildfire on Blaze Trauma 
I haven't, I trust Agent on this one 
agent somehow does absurd amounts of warpfire damage compared to other scoreboards I've seen.
It's not that it's a bad perk it's just usually giving literally anything up for it doesn't make sense
Like I've seen a surge board of his where his warpfire is like the same as his surge damage
I don't know how that happens
Maybe he just shout more than most lol
That shit spreads out fast and is 6 stacks above 90 peril
83.3% peril
I just rid all my builds of wildfire and I've never been happier lol
looking at my last auric maelstrom warpfire is about half my damage and just under half my kills
That's what perilous and the yelly man talent are for
That doesn't mean wildfire is doing it lol creeping flames is most likely the main proponent there
He is very pro
oh i vent on cooldown pretty much
agent is cheating we've established that already
but i definetly notice the snowball if i kill a few with my staff
Also that yes, he is using mods 
Yeah that'll do it lol. I was just shown that 4 stacks of wildfire is like 1/3 the damage of 6 and it barely ever moves 4
Perilous does a shitload as well. PC is always a must have imo
Elite packs snowball until they all burn. Wildfire won't kill or even hardly hurt anything other than the lightest Ads
I guess it IS technically free DPS which is hard to complain about
is it just me or do snipers reproduce if you dont kill them fast enough
its official my second psyker is gonna have a better CIAG than my main one after rolling like 3 of them
oh it just rolled deathspitter 4 on its own
its worth putting elites over maniacs i bet
after rolling tons of ciags on my psyker i leveled up a vet
immediatly after hitting 30 i rolled these
\
my psyker has 80 dam 72 stopping power 17 stability lol
both on the same character
im just gonna keep this like this im not sure what do do with the perks
these were also rolled within 5 minutes of eachother
my prefered perks personally are flak unyielding
yeah im gonna see how this does on ogryns
your beloved doesn't love you back
more flak
ciag doesnt really do shit against carapace anyway, does good enough against everything else
i just find bulwarks really annoying so unyielding helps with those
also bosses
also basicly everything has flak so always gotta get that
personally i would change maniac to unyielding on that, but just try it for yourself and see if you wanna change it'
im remaking my gunker build because idk what i was on lol. probably penance farming
technicly it already does enough damage so you could get away with 10% elites
that covers reaper, crusher, bulwark, rager, mauler, shotgunner and gunner
i think its worth it over unyielding from experimenting
is purgatus staff capable of hitting weakspots? i think not but i rather make sure
nope all center mass
I love losing because someone insists on picking up grims 
vote kick
had one fucking game were I made it to 20 hp because of double grims
i had to text in chat for people to hurry the fuck up and not chase every groaner
Yes

What made it better is that we were 3 psykers and the zealot picked up the first grim, fully died, then picked up the second one
Okay, I feel like that's partially your fault.
You have a zealot on your team, you have to find the grims first then destroy them.
True, this is my fault. After the first one I thought maybe he learned his lesson
TIL while leveling a new character that people ragequit in Malice even more than in Auric Damnation.
It's ragequits all the way down

had a guy complaining about my lvl 21 ass in regular damnation trying to get carried
ended up outperforming him because creeping flames is op
Every time I play with a shriek psyker and they don't spam it I die a little on the inside
people get the misconception from warp charges that you have to never use your abillity to keep up the damage buff and peril reduction
i am also guilty of this, but im reformed
Is it too soon to call warp charges a noob trap, like the Vet shout revive upgrade?
Shriek is so good, you can kill entire gunner groups you didn't even see, you just suddenly see 8 gunners in the kiilfeed 
i think it also comes from easier difficulties
they dont throw as many elites at you, so its a little harder to get stacks
I don't think it's quite a noob trap, but it's definitely not new user friendly
lmao
Fewer elites for stacks is fair I guess
im 100% without fail always top damage and total kills using surge staff shriek spam
its just too good
though how are anyone else supposed to get kills when i kill them before they even turn the corner
Shriek the group of shotgunners, kill two with surge, everyone burns to death. Beautiful
Back to 6 charges right away as well
other psyker: bruh, are you ok sibling?
its actually kinda scary when you think about it, if you know what the warp even is and we are still edging the shit out of it
"Of course I am. BUGS BENEATH MY HEEL"
Psykers must be addicted to the warp and they edge to get high
im glad peril dont work like in the rpgs
second you hit critical, oh shit too late, turns into a demonhost
New mission condition idea
I hate grims, they are useless
i like grims if the team is ok with it
i like a challenge
not like health matters to us psykers anyway
100 goes away just as fast as 10 does
had a double grim run on auric with the tox gas modifier and we actually finished it
that was alot of fun, but my head hurt afterwards
Sure, but why is it always the worst player picking it up? 
idk maybe they dont know what the grim does
its not really explained anywhere
i did not know when i first started playing
By the time you are in auric you should know
I always be getting like level 40s in auric and my psyker a level 120
is that a mod?
i got scoreboard, but still only shows lvl 30
There is a true level mod
Ah idk what mods my buddy is running but he sees their actual level
and i guess that only tracks if you have that mod
Hm?
i mean, how would it track your "true level" when the game doesnt even show it to you
The game tracks it, just doesn't show you. I did a mission with someone a while back and they mentioned my true level
Yee I don't use mods I just make my buddy stream
If you could only pick one which blessing for illisi, uncanny or slaughterer
i couldnt live without scoreboard
i like numbers go up
also buy untill rating is a lifesaver when rolling for gear
i liked vermintide books but darktide books suck ass
Slaughterer
The skulls & idols basically take the role of vermintide books
Ideally I would want both of them 
Yeah I was just thinking for a brain dead illisi scriers and Columbus build
Uhh, we did have vermintide books before skulls and idols were added
Scriptures and grimmoires
Which give you money (useless) not better stuff and are in even more random spots
That's what i was trying to convey, the scrips and grims are both worthless and the new stuff is kind of trying to fill in the hole left by old books
Deflector is kinda nice as a "skill issue" moment crutch
Yes, I used it for a time and then stopped when I started using Dueling Swords because they don't have deflector and I didn't want to try and block gunner shots with it due to muscle memory or something and then just die like a noob 

My neurons activating seeing my overkill outpacing my actual
Technically money is better stuff, not like ranald was that reliable anyway. His middle finger was a common meme
Ranald loved me
And in return, i love ranald
I dunno i felt properly incentivizes to grab books in VT2 to get the high quality chests in DT they're just deco
I feel incentivized to grab both in both games cause it makes the gamer harder
That's just me, I don't even care about rewards
Makes the gamer harder eh
Just a me thing, if yall need a reward good for you
just two more weeks
Our psyker is objectively pretty badass. He has remarkable control over his powers
What are go to Purg blessings?
flurry for sure. Nexus i guess but its so limited on perks to use anyways
nexus and flurry
nexus/flurry blessings, Maniac/Flak/Crit Chance/Unyielding perks
are people asleep at they keyboards tonight
maybe
What is sleep
Sleep is for the weak
Then you know where I'll be
Save me from general chat
On scale of 1 to 10, with the lowest being a 9.7, how much of that anger is directed towards getting trapped

low warp rez on purg is rly good I must say
Works a lot better in terms of warp cap and vent creep flames
Other staffs 60 is good enough
Crit damage pretty sad though
And no +flak
Update will fix it
25 unyild prob gonna be better at that build
Sadly had to work with 10crit since I spend on that one around 30kk+ ordos
Coping on future crafting revork so I can get sub 5% warp rez
30kk? 30M? 
Indeed
Nah no way
Schindler list or something
That's like -8m idk
Less I think
Around 3
+flak on purgatus i think you don't rly need it. Flak enemies ether half dead on 11+ soulblaze or you stunlock then from LMB
Bosses and Ogryns is a bit more annoying cuz you can't rly stagger them unless flayer proc or bb
Almost every enemy you burn with purgatus counts as flak, including maulers. Killing them quicker is always good
True, depends on team comp and personal preference. For me unyild is bis :)
This is one of those things that's not personal preference.
Flak + unyielding sure.
Unyielding + something else, nah
Soooo many enemies are body flak
It's like saying your personal preference is to only use weapons under 350 base rating. Like I guess that's a preference.
Flak crit chance is the way imo
Whould you take flak dmg for ttk increase on type of enemies that can be stunlocked and easily killed with enough soulblaze stacks
Or take unyild for ttk increase on type of enemies that purg cannot stagger and has higher hp pool for dmg over time scaling
Flak is surely good for trauma/surge for break point purpose, purgatus not rly making that much of a diff
I have flakiac, not by choice. But it helps against dreg ragers and specials mixed in the horde I guess 
the thing about unyielding is that i'm swapping off on bosses anyways and using other weapons
at least flak will actually see some use whereas unyielding is only useful while building up stacks
Same, you build up to 22 stacks and switch to mele.
Isn't unyild damage scales even after you weapon swap, correct me
only the perks on the currently-held weapon are active
DoTs get updated in real time unlike projectiles which do indeed only care about your buffs when they were launched
What was the change a few patches ago, about perks and weapon swapping?
it was specifically about projectiles and pretty much only affected assail in practicality
patch #17
My bad then, we still have reaper/bulwark
yeah though even those i usually stab or just don't think they pop up in enough numbers to warrant unyielding
what now
Idk, personally purg does not having any problems with flak with of without +25. Il try it eventually when il find another low warp rez with flak, don't think itl happen soon 
it doesn't have a problem
it's just good to kill faster
and that's all that matters
Now you curse Hadron
Maniac, Unyielding, Uncanny +Slaughterer/Deflector are good for Deimos. Unstable Power as well if you play around it
So you could replace Carapace and Blazing for Maniac and Uncanny on the first one, for example
It's just the thing that improves your efficiency the most
All bodyshot auto targeting weapons need flak
Because almost everything has Flak bodies
Dats not true in a wider sense the main culprit was zealot knives since multiple blessings could make it cleave through a full horde which was more funny than useful but still
The super piercing knife which could 1shot 1 side of a gunner patrol in line xD
it still works on zealot knives
the knife railgun dream is still real
because you're holding out your shotgun when you throw the knives
Only with stealth now and it still counts as bug
it's p much always been a bug
Well they didnt fix loner not disabling base aura either
Assume they just forgot shotguns exist

shut up and keep needing to two tap lightly armored enemies with a shotgun at close range

anyways, you are obviously very wrong https://streamable.com/pg7mim
it gets annoying when people just read a patch note and makes assumptions about how it works instead of, you know, just easily checking the meatgrinder to see if it still works
knife railgun is still a thing
it still works exactly like before
nothing about it has been changed
like i said
basically only assail has been practically affected by it
......
k and you realistically use piety for knives
stealth or chastice guarantees the crit
without it fishing for 1 in a 1000 crits to actually hit multiple gunners is sorry but unrealistic
whatchu mean
my point wasn't to argue about it being a viable build
my point was that it works like before
AKA, the knives still benefit from scattershot
you dingus
why are you shifting the argument away into something else and STILL being wrong
just shut up
at least try to be correct
omg what is the point of stuff which are theoretically possible but you cant pull it off ingame
what do you mean you can't pull it off
thats like saying thammer is the best wep cuz you can pinpoint hit every elite with the special attack inside the throng of mobs
scattershot alone is 60% crit chance
what miracle shit do you need
shoot at a clump of enemies and just keep your stacks and then go ham with throwing knives
and once again, you are arguing about an entirely different thing altogether
and are STILL wrong even though i literally told you about scattershot still working with throwing knives
its not like it wasnt me who brought that up but nvm
mf you brought it up
you are literally the one who remarked about manstopper not working with throwing knives anymore
yes it works even without guarantee crits but u not gonna crit fish with knives mid fight thats unrealistic
why do you need to do it mid fight
just stack scattershot before the fight
are you stupid
scattershot just requires you to hit multiple enemies
~_~
you can also do it on revolver with surgical (although at this point you're abusing hand-cannon for crusher one shots)
scattershot doesn't drop when throwing knives crit
you only lose stacks if you shoot your shotgun
oooo wait a second thought it consumed the buff on throw
sigh
but doesnt make the knife crit still
yeah and i don't care about whether the railgun knife build is good
why do you keep implying that's been my argument
idk charging into a horde and throwing 2-3 knives while charging for cleave is more benefical than just throwing it randomly
my argument thus far has been that the projectile change has not affected how the zealot railgun build functioned
and then you keep talking about the viability of the railgun build
which i do not care about
and you consistently keep saying wrong shit about
just shut up
k mr my bad you are 100% correct it sitll works mea culpa
also i'm not sure if you still have a misunderstanding, but scattershot still applies to knife
and i'll even go through the trouble of recording something without piety just for you
just so that other people don't believe the stupid and wrong shit you're saying
yeah im glad that 0.000001% players who'll ever use shotgun knife cheese will sleep well after this epsecially this is an ackowledged bug waiting to be fixed
yeah and i'm one of the people who would like it to be fixed
i also don't run this build
my only gripe is not with the build but with the fact that you're just saying wrong stuff for the sake of your own arguments
for no reason at all
how you gon invent facts out of thin air for a build that only 0.000001% of players run
anyhow, here's the tknife critting a lot w/o piety
i wonder where it got its crit chance from https://streamable.com/xmu7tc
blazing piety? Shotguns? Psyker doesnt have neither of those 
this is psyker and zealot chat
the better zealot chat
zealot chat #2
servitor chat
The chat waiting for the next class
Where is the techpriest chat
its between ratling and ad sis channels
Zealot chat is ironically discussing Duelling swords atm
Every channel is zealot channel unless emprah says so
I wonder how lights out will look on the new map 
Does perilous combustion stack with wildfire? Like, if there's a handful of ragers, I kill one and apply 3 stacks of soulblaze with perilous combustion, then kill another; does it apply 3 stacks of soulblaze and then another 3 from wildfire? Not exactly sure how the math adds up.
lights out hourglass when
wildfire spreads the soulblaze stack to nearby enemies, it does not add up
Wait, are there no lights out hourglass missions?
havent seen one

So wildfire basically only exists to kill trash after dealing with an elite/specialist... sad.
if it did it'd be quite popular and possibly op since any stack of soulblaze can stack up to 4 constantly
wildfire helps a bit
but like
better off just combustion stack
faster and easier
and its in more favorable position as well
The issue is getting soulblaze to begin with.
with psyker its p easy
It leaves you either forced to use pc or a blaze staff.
whole left tree is dedicated to it afterall(well, the ult anyway)
Why wouldn't PC and wildfire stack though? The second rager would get the wildfire from the first rager and then more stacks from PC, no?
Unless you use shriek or that one blessing that applies soulblaze on crit.
No idea, can probably test in the meatgrinder
It says on wildfire that it spreads up to 4 stacks but no more than that and it can't get more stacks than the dying enemy had.
it basically spreads the soulblaze stacks it had
But I figure the game tracks wildfire and pc separately.
So if PC applies before wildfire then it wouldn't work? 
That's the million dollar question.
If pc applies first then wildfire is worthless as a talent unless you're bad at killing trash.
but it cannot spread more than 4 stacks(i.e. if enemy with soulblaze 15 stack died, it only spread 4) and if the nearby enemy has more stacks than the applied stack(your 3 stack enemy kill does not maek it add up the nearby enemy that has 3 stacks up to 4, i believe
But if wildfire applies first then it's actually going to be good because it would spread up to 7 stacks with pc.
i dont think ive seen 7 stacks tbh
I mean, that's just how the math would add up.
On a single enemy, the wildfire stacks are shared among all the enemies around the target
4 max from wildfire and pc stacks another 3.
But again this is assuming that wildfire applies before pc.
purely cause eiter if you run PC/shriek you already have more means to achieve more than 3 stacks of soulblaze and if you purely use gun and use PC there is no way for you to have a few stacks on a specific enemy for the purpose of testing
most of the options you have are just AoE options so
I guess I'll just hang onto wildfire then.
It makes up for my duelling sword not killing crowds quickly.
to expand on this, if there are 4 enemies around, then wildfire will give each enemy only 1 stack
wait what
that sounds suckish even more
🤔
Wildfire is not great, no, but it's better the less soulblaze you have, kinda?
I only use it on blaze trauma
i think i have one on smite EP build
I also have no mods, so I have no evidence for it doing a good job or not 
Oh, then it's just straight up garbage on a non dedicated soulblaze build.
You misunderstand. I'm angry at everything. Always. All the time.
Khorne moment
Also bad on purgatus
Better for your other sources really
Trauma, Shriek, PC
But the pattern is poor
Force sword blazing spirit is terrible
But Trauma blazing spirit is awesome
Eh, I feel like force sword blazing spirit would be good on a scrier illisi setup.
You already kill stuff you crit tbh
Though, I'm assuming it only applies soulblaze to the first target.
You do better with slaughterer uncanny etc
Scrier illisi kills everything, there will be nothing to light on fire
Trauma is great with it because of how it interacts with trauma
How their aoe damage shape is with and without it
Blaze sword? Yes 
Wish some blessings weren't bad.
Gonna make an illisi meme setup of bloodthirsty and blazing spirit.
Maybe the crafting update will rebalance some of the blessings we have, who knows. Would be the perfect time for a big balance patch
On demand crits in hordes just straight up mowing everything down.
Get 0% on all damage stats
So stuff actually catches fire
Be the first man to actually have a 0 roll on a weapon.
I tried blaze illsi with blaze trauma
Sorry have bad brain day
Not a good combo
Imo you want a single target melee with that anyway
Deimos or ds4
Anything you'd wanna illisi can just be traumad
this is why i do not like trauma
Trauma is the explosive staff, right?
Yes
summon circle make booms
But when you get there it's awesome
I am intentionally avoiding using it because it's icky.
i am avoiding it because i want to play sword wizard and not wizard wizard
One day you will try it again out of curiosity
Every psyker I've met that has used one thinks they are, in fact, John Darktide, but they instantly die and blame it on their team.
Nah I have a super good voidstrike staff. I don't need trauma.
Anything that's worth trauma-ing is worth pressing c on and going ham with my sword.
Keeps things interesting
And anything my sword can't reach, my voidstrike can.
Typically the weakness with that build is bosses
Take DD if you go voidstrike btw
Funny crusher one shots
Disrupt Destiny
Crushers die in one ranged attack it's crazy
I'm not ballsy enough to go staff scriers lol
I just take shriek
It's even funnier because it's a crit every time I pull out the staff.
I don't remember the talent but once you get 5 weak spot hits your next ranged attack is a guaranteed crit.
So you whip out that voidstrike staff and cleave through 6 crushers.
True aim 
As for bosses though, that's what brain burst is for.
I don't use assail or smite on that setup.
My trauma is EP so I get my boss damage that way too
But my void uses assail
Maybe I should go rupture next time for the boss damage specifically
It's also useful to peek gunners with.
Peek, lock, step back behind cover, crunch the brain, repeat.
Not nearly as efficiently.
It's pretty efficient with DD
Assail is good for a pseudo suppression against gunners if you're far away, that's about it.
Anyway, running voidstrike with scriers aint a terrible idea. You use the staff when scriers is on cooldown and your sword when it isn't.
Voidstrike is surprisingly good at horde clearing.
Can do it with very low power blasts
Especially shines in corridors
I have seen this. it happens mega rarely
On the same level as a 550 rare
🤷♀️ it’s challenging to use but once you learn the way of it you can do crazy things
Hadron is about to do unspeakable things to this Deimos
I pray for you.





