#psyker-class

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upper sun
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give zealot trauma

hearty oak
marble crater
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Give zealot power sword

lethal lagoon
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Give zealot, zealot

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When another zealot get's trapped, you can pick them up and use them as a flail with the net.

jovial juniper
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Actually viable on the Mk15

stone totem
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Long range horde clear

round gull
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Guys,opinions about this talent?

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I mean i'm not sure if I like it

thorn cedar
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whats your blitz

round gull
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BB

thorn cedar
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yes

round gull
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*BR

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yes what? XD

thorn cedar
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use it

round gull
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oh ok ok

thorn cedar
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i mean idk what other options your tree has but i use it

upper sun
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if you're going EP you have enough points for toughness on peril gain/loss+kill/crit and thats kinda more than enough

round gull
thorn cedar
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its pretty fat on BB, youre often take ranged chip while channeling anyway, and its teamwide

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and it procs a lot

upper sun
round gull
upper sun
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mettle and perfect timing are huge tho

thorn cedar
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i wouldn't bother with kinetic flayer

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thats about it

upper sun
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abd wildfire+ second bb upgrade are not great on void

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ye second upgrade isnt good in general

round gull
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oh

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so no wildfire?

upper sun
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nah

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DD is better with void

round gull
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DD?

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uhhhm

upper sun
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disrupt destiny

round gull
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yeah

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but i also use BR

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is BR good with DD?

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maybe yes

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It would make sense

upper sun
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uhhhh it should count as a weakspot kill

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but since it doesnt work in meatgrinder i cant check

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if you wanna use EP trauma is kind of a better option

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since BB is kinda similar to what void does

thorn cedar
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ye

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i mean do what you want

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but i agree void overlaps with BR

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and DD is so good for void

upper sun
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everything is playable except shredder auto gun staregryn

round gull
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I'm not really sure,I'm trying to play psyker since I started to use more the vet,and I don't have a clear build i want

round gull
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and what about smite+void+EP?

thorn cedar
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i think smite ep in general is a sin against humanity

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but its a slight bias

round gull
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LMAO

upper sun
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we dont do support psyker here

round gull
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so which keystone is good for smite?

thorn cedar
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smite is just good by itself

round gull
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oh well

thorn cedar
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so take whats good for your weapons

round gull
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And I'm not using assail,I hate it

thorn cedar
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man

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i hate smite, but i also love it

round gull
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Yeah it's weird

thorn cedar
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i hate how most use it

round gull
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lol

thorn cedar
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it still needs a rework

round gull
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Yeah

thorn cedar
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but i like it

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its fun

round gull
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IT is

thorn cedar
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the insta-zappy left click is fun

round gull
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yay 😄

thorn cedar
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right click can eat it tho

round gull
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Who the fuck uses Scrier's gaze?

thorn cedar
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me

round gull
upper sun
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bruh

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i just spawn fell through a map

round gull
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oh,how lucky

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Guys,is this affected by BR?

thorn cedar
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other way around and yes

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br is a weakspot hit so it stacks it up

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but it doesnt crit so it wont consume it

round gull
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shit

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;_;

thorn cedar
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or isnt ranged? whichever

round gull
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yeah

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What's your opinion about Assail?

hardy raft
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assail both works and gains crit from it

round gull
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And do you think it's a good ability?

hardy raft
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way faster than smite on killing enemies, free bullets every 2 seconds to deal with long range stuff, auto-im for moatly head

rigid sky
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It's balanced with the others

hardy raft
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its a great ability

rigid sky
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It's great with DD

round gull
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yeah

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I have problems with it at perill generation

hardy raft
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psyker blitz tehd to generate lot of peril

round gull
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yeah ik

rigid sky
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You just gotta get used to the peril

round gull
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however i know more or less the amount of perill BR will generate

rigid sky
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Weave in some quells when you can if you start to get high

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Assails are at base 10 LMB or 25 RMB

round gull
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ohhh

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good good

rigid sky
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You can shit out 10 assails from 0 peril

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They complement gunker beautifully

round gull
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Btw,any good ability for Assail?Maybe the dome?

narrow herald
rigid sky
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Base it on your staff or gun more

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If I take gun I go Scrier's

round gull
rigid sky
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If I take voidstrike I take shriek

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Otherwise i don't take assail anyway personally

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Just my own builds

narrow herald
rigid sky
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Which is kinda big

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But you can still get Shriek

narrow herald
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Yeah but u loose access to prob the 2 best nodes in the entire tree 😭

rigid sky
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Which other one?

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It's only psy aura I thought

upper sun
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fuck me how hard is it to stop BoN fire damage

rigid sky
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You can't get the elite damage aura either but ain't nobody give no fucks about that

round gull
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Should I use it?I use it to safe my ass from perill

rigid sky
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Well yes but not for that

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It bridges you to Creeping Flames

spice veldt
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on the other hand, right side has malefic momentum

rigid sky
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Aka the entire reason to take Shriek in the first place

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Never take Shriek without Creeping Flames

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It is shit

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But Creeping Flames might be the overall strongest offensive ability in the game

round gull
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Maybe I have too much nodes used here

rigid sky
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The top of the tree is great

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Skip battle meditation unless you are EP smite or Scrier's

round gull
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oh oki

rigid sky
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Get Mettle unless you are rending shockwave Trauma

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And get Perilous Combustion

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Consider dropping Warp Replenishment

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Warp Expenditure maybe

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Can't remember the name

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Middle right toughness gen node

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Peril goes up = toughness goes up one

round gull
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yeah

rigid sky
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It is decent but I consider it a luxury node

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I take it if I have points to spare

round gull
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I would like to get this node(I'm using assail)

rigid sky
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But the other stuff at the top is borderline essential

rigid sky
round gull
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void

rigid sky
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I wouldn't bother seriously

upper sun
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does solidity even work with blitz quelling or just staves?

rigid sky
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Take Disrupt Destiny and save the 3 points on the left leg

round gull
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i have them

hardy raft
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real good

round gull
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do i put the middle one?

rigid sky
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No

hardy raft
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the you can move while venting also works with blitzes

rigid sky
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EP assail is ok

round gull
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oh i confused

hardy raft
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i use both on ep smite

round gull
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XD

rigid sky
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But you haven't lived until you have seen the power of Disrupt Destiny voidstrike

round gull
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DD is also good yeah

rigid sky
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How would you like to oneshot crushers

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This power can be yours today

round gull
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REALLY?

hardy raft
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DD is kinda op now and only gets sleeped on cause noone really plays gunpsyker

rigid sky
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I shit you not

hardy raft
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speaking of we should get more staffs

rigid sky
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It also boosts Assail hugely

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Almost to EP level

round gull
rigid sky
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On top of megaboosting your voidstrike and your melee

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Ask your librarian if Disrupt Destiny is right for you

round gull
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Which nodes?

rigid sky
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Disrupt Destiny is not responsible for delusions of grandeur, suicidal behaviour chasing after blue Bois, or extreme megalomania

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Take Lingering influence

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Optionally take the weakspot gives triple stacks

round gull
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And Curel fortune?

rigid sky
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Skip

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It's the middle shitty peril reduction node right

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It is very weak

round gull
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oh

hardy raft
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always always take lingering

rigid sky
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But take lingering unless you hate yourself

thorn cedar
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no

round gull
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lol

hardy raft
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tbh

rigid sky
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It is miserable without it

thorn cedar
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perfectionist or bust

hardy raft
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in theorey you can run the 4 second

thorn cedar
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you ride blue til u die

rigid sky
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Remember if you have peril issues you always have Shriek

hardy raft
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and it'd be actually high risk high reward gameplay

round gull
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What about this?

hardy raft
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or use lingering and low risk high reward

thorn cedar
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ogryn packs demolishing your team? dgaf cuz they aint blu, gl fellas

hardy raft
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CF must

rigid sky
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Consider changing to Perfectionist once you get used to the power of z
Lingering

hardy raft
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extends your decay from 10->30

round gull
rigid sky
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Remember it takes 12s to lose a weakspot kill with perfectionist

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30s with lingering

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Lingering will do you much better on bosses

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And it is already enough to one shot crushers

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You want Carapace, Surge and Warp Nexus on your staff

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I forget which other perk

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Maybe maniac

hardy raft
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i want a staff that looks like a gun, i wodner if 40k has those
psylencers are for GK so doesnt count

rigid sky
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Maybe unyielding

round gull
rigid sky
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Don't skip perilous combustion

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It is pretty good

round gull
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taken

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You are right

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I have 1 point left

rigid sky
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How many points are left

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Maybe EE

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Empathic Evasion or whatever it's called

round gull
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yeah

rigid sky
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Assail crits a lot and it saves you a lot of damage

round gull
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makes sense

rigid sky
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And boom you have the exact copy of my void build lol

round gull
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and what melee weapon?I'm between Illisi and Deimos

rigid sky
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I take Illisi

rigid sky
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Because my void kills anything I would use a Deimos or DS4 on

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But is vulnerable to enemies going wide

round gull
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yeah

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Any blessing?

rigid sky
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Also the reason why I take Shriek and assail

round gull
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I'm lost with psyker blessings

rigid sky
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Mine is slaughterer Bloodthirsty but that usually gets boos lol

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Slaughterer uncanny probably best

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But I can't help liking Bloodthirsty on it

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Lovely mettle/DD synergies

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And EE

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Anyway sleepy time

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Murder some heretics

round gull
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yeee

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Thanks btw 😄

pine jasper
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I <//3 electric staff

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Shit is so fun to use

next pine
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Full Raiden is combining it with a pure mid lane spec

upper sun
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I DID IT

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I FINALLY HAVE FOOTAGE OF THE CLUTCH PENANCE BEING BUGGED

upper sun
hearty oak
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There's a penance for it?

upper sun
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ye finish a mission after rescuing 3 people from captivity

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im esp pissed at that one because i had help with it, i cheesed it once with bots and i did it organically once

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never got it

hearty oak
radiant frigate
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force greatsword when?

radiant frigate
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made all the more difficult because if you clutch people immediately go for the other pickups when you free them

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it is a stupid penance

stuck marsh
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yoo would anyone have some good combat knife 6 psyker gameplay to share? i'm sucking using the knife and would love to see how its suppose to be done

stuck marsh
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awesome thank you!!

potent echo
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psyker weapon

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now!!

round gull
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Nah man assail is shit

stuck marsh
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whats the mod that shows your current crit chance?

round gull
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I hate assail :[

potent echo
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assail will buy you toilet paper but it wont wipe your ass KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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Assail is great

rigid sky
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Assail's great but it's gotta be used appropriately

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you usually swap between it and your other shit rapidly

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it lets you use ranged attacks on the move a lot better than any other Psyker option

potent echo
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it wont kill horde thats in your face attacking you, chuck them before they reach you, or swap to melee

wind spruce
wind spruce
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weave it in between attacks

potent echo
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yea thats how you use it because assail takes maybe 0.8seconds before they u-turn and hit the horde in your face, so it doesnt let you ignore meleeing

spice veldt
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split your dodge/jump keybind into separate keys and spam dodge

signal sluice
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Most of your best toughness Regen talents are at the very top of the tree, above the grenades. If you find yourself constantly generating and quelling peril then the 2 middle talents help you regen toughness. If you're killing multiple enemies with warp attacks (Purg staff or Void Strike) then the regen 7.5% toughness per Warp Kill is your best toughness regen. If you're using a weapon and build with high crit chance then you go on the right side of the talents for toughness regen and movement speed per critical hit made.

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Then you have a 11% - 33% toughness damage reduction versus ranged enemies, based on peril, as a way to counter ranged enemies, along with critical hits make you immune to range attacks for 1 or 2 seconds. Can't remember exactly the number.

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that's where I would start on learning how best to remain alive as psyker.

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I'd suggest taking the ones that best fit your build, rather than taking all of them.

potent echo
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use push too, its 360°

young ridge
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Toughness talents are super neat on psyker, but you will always be pretty squishy, unless blocking

rigid sky
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I take a lot of the toughness gain talents

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And empathic evasion etc

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The only one that I usually omit is the middle right one at the top because I can't budget it in, but when I take EP or DD I normally end up taking that too

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Similarly I prefer the toughness gain Warp Siphon talent to its peril reduction alternative

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We have a multilayer damage avoidance model

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But if something breaches through you get chunked

lusty seal
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What's a good build for voidstaff?

marble crater
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Assail, Shriek or shield, Disrupt Destiny.
People won't like it, but this is mine

hearty oak
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But then having no psykinetic aura sucked ass

marble crater
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Yeah not having Psykentic's is sad, but I want a build with Assail KEKW_ogryn

wind spruce
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You generate a lot of peril if you assail weave with void so having solidity really helps

marble crater
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I also like it for a bit of consistency across builds. Can't have the last DD talent, but once you actually reached your max stacks and just need to maintain them it's not that bad, imo.

wind spruce
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Shriek, void & assail is the best combo available to maintain/gain stacks so it makes sense as a trade off

marble crater
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No chadgryn

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I use assail less than on gunker, so it's fine with void having infinite ammo you can spam instead

whole drift
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Heyy, idk if this is the right channel to ask in but I just got the game and I was wondering if anyone has any good tips for how to utilise psykers in the best way possible :)

lusty seal
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Hey, learning to watch your peril and not blow your own head off helps a lot

marble crater
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First rule of psyker: don't get hit, because you are made of wet paper. The sooner you are good at melee; dodging, blocking, pushing, the better

hearty oak
whole drift
whole drift
hearty oak
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Just dont cast anything past 95% as a rule of thumb

whole drift
hearty oak
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surge staff*

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Like brain burst is what you would take if you are lacking high single target DPS and talents that speed it up cause base BB is slow as molasses

sturdy pasture
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Ok I did a fire build with the flaming abilities on elite kill then brain burst and the fire staff and the ability that makes you have free warp uses

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That all comes together to burn everything

marble crater
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Burn everything is a very nice build

upper sun
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purge is pretty based ngl

haughty star
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Surge is a pretty tough call for finished staff

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There's not really a dump stat there

haughty star
regal harness
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whats a good perk and what stat should i focus on Maccabian Mk IV Duelling Sword

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nvm i found out

jovial juniper
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It's

haughty star
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Always uncanny

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The other one is preference but most recommend riposte

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I prefer rampage for helping it with hording

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Carapace and flak are good stats to run for all purpose or the tried and true flakiak, crit chance and unyielding for a bossing sword

hearty oak
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I prefer lmb and shift+w

marble crater
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Maniac and Carapace, my beloved

warm oasis
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Damn, just tried out the dueling saber for the first time. It’s awesome.

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What would the god roll on the Mk 2 of it be?

marble crater
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A Mk4 KEKW_ogryn

hardy raft
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a mk4

jovial juniper
hardy raft
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cause mk4 strangely has like 50% more damage than mk2 stab

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dont ask me why

jovial juniper
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Mk2 my beloved light spammer uwugryn

hardy raft
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mk2 would be great on a zealot

marble crater
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I use a mk2 on my surge build sometimes, for the horde clear while still having DS mobility

warm oasis
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Okay, thanks.

hardy raft
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or a mk5

marble crater
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But the horde clear is yeah, if you want that just use an illisi

upper sun
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🤔 is it just me or is shred just as good for hoard clear as rampage?

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on ds4 that is

tiny oracle
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for your question, a godroll atleast to me would be 61% mobillity, 79% cleave damage and rest 80% with flak, maniac/crit chance, uncanny4 and riposte4

upper sun
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nuh uhhhh carap maniac uncanny shred

jovial juniper
upper sun
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crits also on lights also help with clear

tiny oracle
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i dont like shred, falls off so easily

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and i have no problem keeping a high uptime on riposte anyway

upper sun
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if youre just using it for armor then yeah

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i think shred is a nice middle ground

tiny oracle
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thing is, if you stop attacking it falls off, if you miss it falls off

upper sun
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yeah

tiny oracle
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especially if you run the perk i forgot the name of that lets you dodge ranged hits on crits

supple dock
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You have to be too careful with shred ):

tiny oracle
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with that riposte has basicly 100% uptime when you need it

supple dock
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I do not think they interact like that

tiny oracle
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ive seen it do that

supple dock
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In fact I'm like 85% sure it doesn't

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It would be MUCH more widely spoken about here otherwise

tiny oracle
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it counts as successfully dodging an attack

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im 100% sure ive seen it trigger from that

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if not the only reason could be that i like sliding around

supple dock
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I'll test it after this game I'm in

warm oasis
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Trying it, mk 4 feels really slow

marble crater
tiny oracle
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that affects attack speed

warm oasis
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Swings are just slower, fewer in the same time. Can check finesse after this mission

marble crater
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How are you using it? Primary use of dueling swords are heavy pokes against muties and crushers/maulers

warm oasis
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Ah, using it for hordes as well

marble crater
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It's not really a horde weapon, like it's okay. With sciers gaze and DD stacks it's good. But if you want something for hordes then it's very low on the list.
The Mk2 would be better than the Mk4 then, but the Mk2 heavy attacks are bad compared to the Mk4

warm oasis
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Fair, guessing it’s meant for specials and armored enemies then?

marble crater
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Pretty much, though most specials are better dealt with at a distance. So muties and armored enemies, and bosses, for that Mk4 is your best option. If you want horde clear then illisi is a pssker's best option

fringe garden
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Illisi with Uncanny Strike seems universally awesome vs just about anything. Maybe less so vs bosses, I guess

warm oasis
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Illisi?

patent wing
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Illisi

marble crater
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Illisi force sword

fringe garden
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It's pretty satisfying to tap the special attack and cleave a particularly thick clump of enemies and just decimate them, too.

warm oasis
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Ah, thanks

marble crater
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Psyker holy trinity of melee weapons: Illisi, Deimos and DS4

fringe garden
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I know the psyker guide suggests nexus with either flurry or surge, but I've also been enjoying flurry and transfer peril for spamming tons of blasts. Is that typically seen as subpar? I've got staves with all of the above combinations and can't really decide which I prefer.

marble crater
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There are some people who enjoy Flurry and Transfer Peril, as long as it works, it works KEKW_ogryn

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Typically you want high peril to deal more damage, but I guess it equals out with the more shots you can spam

rigid sky
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I think with a Transfer staff you can get away with Scrier's Gaze if you want to

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that's the older style of Voidstrike anyway

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tbh I'd say the essential one is Surge for the funny crusher one-shots

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With either Nexus (more crits) or Flurry (you can use True Aim to force crits)

upper sun
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@marble crater devblog upo

chrome sphinx
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DEVBLOG

marble crater
upper sun
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wait

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is that middle part a joke

ripe obsidian
rigid sky
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I think so

ripe obsidian
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Seems like it. I'm doing ~2650 damage with surge in the pskhanium without carapace

rigid sky
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I run with DD though

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so that adds a bunch too

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maybe it's not actually even necessary tbh

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maybe you can go without surge

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idk

ripe obsidian
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Ah, I don't have DD charged in the pskhanium

rigid sky
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Yeah, you can't do that without a mod

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annoying lol

ripe obsidian
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So that'd be way more damage

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15% base + 30% crit + 37.5% weakpoint. That'd probably do it

upper sun
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so just to be clear we ALL love getting missions from random people right?

ripe obsidian
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Yeah, with 12 stacks of DD and a guaranteed crit, it 1-shots a crusher with 100-200ish damage left over

edgy heart
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surely i wont get bored of it within 2 days

ripe obsidian
marble crater
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Eh, how often do you actively listen to the current mission dialog?

edgy heart
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until i get bored

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which happens rather quickly

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if swagger doesnt ask me to go grab the thermal drill im going to be mad

chrome sphinx
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almost zero mention of new weapons

edgy heart
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🛗

upper sun
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"swagger"

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no way GW signed off on that shit

edgy heart
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commodore brother

ripe obsidian
# upper sun goofy ahh name tbh

Oh, goofy as hell. I've just spent a lot of time in the Psykhanium lately and heard Sefoni say things like, "There's a secret Magos on Atoma" or "There's someone on Atoma whose mind is shielded, keep them away from Sefoni" or "Melk has secret teams on Atoma, does Grendyl know?"

"there is a psychic blank in Tertium, the only mind she cannot touch."

warm oasis
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What are the best perks for the Illsi?

ripe obsidian
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Depends on what you want to do with it

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Uncanny Strike/Slaughterer is great for just bashing people with it

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Oh, perks, not blessings.

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Maniac/Flak is what I use. Crit chance if you're using Blazing Spirit.

warm oasis
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Blessings as well, was thinking of making a full Soulfire build with it as the melee weapon.

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Have one with blazing spirit so thought it may be fun.

ripe obsidian
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Shred + Blazing spirit for flamesword

warm oasis
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Alright, thanks. So guessing +5% crit chance for a perk as well?

ripe obsidian
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Yeah, if you're trying to get as much fire as possible, you need all the crit

warm oasis
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Alright, thanks for the advice

marble crater
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Disclaimer: fire sword is pretty much a meme, don't expect to destroy everything with fire like a purgatus KEKW_ogryn

fringe garden
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Yeah, there really isn't any way to make blazing spirit noticeable.

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On the sword, that is

upper sun
ripe obsidian
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I think it's the last quote in this video

lethal lagoon
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Fire sword is a meme and geniunely terrible.

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Slaughterer is the default blessing.

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The second option can be uncanny, deflector, shred, etc mostly personal preference.

ripe obsidian
upper sun
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IM GLAD YOU ASKED

marble crater
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Damn, almost the entire basket

upper sun
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its pretty based

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tho i came around to battle med

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even with creeping its nice

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sure

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you have one free point chadgryn

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do it

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i changed my mind tbh its not that bad

marble crater
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Nooo throwing

upper sun
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its unironically

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not

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bad

marble crater
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It's unironically not good

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I can't make a build on the site Dank

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It's broken and won't show me anything

upper sun
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it knows you have wrong opinions

marble crater
hearty oak
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Behold, the perfect purge build

radiant frigate
hearty oak
upper sun
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middle EP node

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yeah ookay

hearty oak
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😤😤

radiant frigate
lethal lagoon
#

🤢

hearty oak
lethal lagoon
#

That is indeed the point of EE

#

🤢

hearty oak
lethal lagoon
#

And because I have EE, your emote doesn't scare me

hearty oak
#

Heh, you didnt crit in the past 5 mins

lethal lagoon
#

I crit everyday son

#

I just look at your user profile and it's a critical charm

late sapphire
shy hull
#

Make psykers able to turn into demonhosts 10% of the time if they end up going over 100% Parel

upper sun
#

we went through training to make sure that doesnt happen

haughty star
#

Might not look Like it to you but this is peak surge staffing

lethal lagoon
#

Other than elites instead of CDR, that's literally pinned as the Standard Surge build.

#

And the image name is "orthodoxsurge"

haughty star
#

Oh really? Lmao

#

That's funny

lethal lagoon
#

Surge doesn't have a lot of variability, it's pretty solved. Unless you have a hardon for wildfire.

haughty star
#

This is just the tooling around I've done on it. My psykers only like level 100

marble crater
#

Arsonists on Atoma? pogryn

haughty star
#

Wildfire just isn't good

#

By the time it do any meaningful damage they already dead lol

lethal lagoon
#

Turn on all healthbars, it's easier to see how it operates.

#

And like many psyker skills, it scales with enemy density.

#

Anyways, I don't run it on surge.

#

Unless I'm doing EP smite

marble crater
lethal lagoon
tiny oracle
#

idk, i dont think i could melt hordes as fast as i currently am doing without wildfire

haughty star
#

I like elite damage cuz it gives surge a bit lower breakpoints

tiny oracle
#

kinda fun to just look at how the damage snowballs as the enemies starts dying

haughty star
marble crater
#

Wildfire on Surge concerned
Wildfire on Blaze Trauma TOOBASED

lethal lagoon
#

Ehh, if you haven't run all healthbars, you can't say you've tested wildfire

marble crater
#

I haven't, I trust Agent on this one chadgryn

lethal lagoon
#

agent somehow does absurd amounts of warpfire damage compared to other scoreboards I've seen.

haughty star
#

It's not that it's a bad perk it's just usually giving literally anything up for it doesn't make sense

lethal lagoon
#

Like I've seen a surge board of his where his warpfire is like the same as his surge damage

#

I don't know how that happens

haughty star
#

Maybe he just shout more than most lol

#

That shit spreads out fast and is 6 stacks above 90 peril

ripe obsidian
lethal lagoon
#

85 because peril can be shown weirdly.

#

But yes it's technically 83.3

haughty star
#

I just rid all my builds of wildfire and I've never been happier lol

lethal lagoon
#

Some people just wanna see the world not burn

tiny oracle
#

looking at my last auric maelstrom warpfire is about half my damage and just under half my kills

haughty star
#

That's what perilous and the yelly man talent are for

#

That doesn't mean wildfire is doing it lol creeping flames is most likely the main proponent there

marble crater
tiny oracle
#

oh i vent on cooldown pretty much

upper sun
tiny oracle
#

but i definetly notice the snowball if i kill a few with my staff

marble crater
#

Also that yes, he is using mods staregryn

haughty star
#

Yeah that'll do it lol. I was just shown that 4 stacks of wildfire is like 1/3 the damage of 6 and it barely ever moves 4

#

Perilous does a shitload as well. PC is always a must have imo

#

Elite packs snowball until they all burn. Wildfire won't kill or even hardly hurt anything other than the lightest Ads

#

I guess it IS technically free DPS which is hard to complain about

upper sun
#

is it just me or do snipers reproduce if you dont kill them fast enough

honest robin
#

its official my second psyker is gonna have a better CIAG than my main one after rolling like 3 of them

#

oh it just rolled deathspitter 4 on its own

#

its worth putting elites over maniacs i bet

tiny oracle
#

after rolling tons of ciags on my psyker i leveled up a vet

#

immediatly after hitting 30 i rolled these

honest robin
#

my psyker has 80 dam 72 stopping power 17 stability lol

tiny oracle
#

both on the same character

honest robin
#

im just gonna keep this like this im not sure what do do with the perks

tiny oracle
#

these were also rolled within 5 minutes of eachother

#

my prefered perks personally are flak unyielding

honest robin
#

yeah im gonna see how this does on ogryns

shy hull
#

your beloved doesn't love you back

tiny oracle
#

ciag doesnt really do shit against carapace anyway, does good enough against everything else

#

i just find bulwarks really annoying so unyielding helps with those

#

also bosses

honest robin
#

the boss killing is attractive

#

its great at that

#

reapers can be problematic too

tiny oracle
#

also basicly everything has flak so always gotta get that

honest robin
#

im just checking TTKs rn

#

its likely i kill all the maniacs fast enough

tiny oracle
#

personally i would change maniac to unyielding on that, but just try it for yourself and see if you wanna change it'

honest robin
#

im remaking my gunker build because idk what i was on lol. probably penance farming

tiny oracle
#

technicly it already does enough damage so you could get away with 10% elites

#

that covers reaper, crusher, bulwark, rager, mauler, shotgunner and gunner

honest robin
#

i think its worth it over unyielding from experimenting

cunning yew
#

is purgatus staff capable of hitting weakspots? i think not but i rather make sure

upper sun
#

nope all center mass

marble crater
#

I love losing because someone insists on picking up grims KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
#

What do you need Hp for? Just don't get hit

upper sun
#

i had to text in chat for people to hurry the fuck up and not chase every groaner

lethal lagoon
#

"text in chat"

upper sun
#

Yes

marble crater
lethal lagoon
#

Okay, I feel like that's partially your fault.

#

You have a zealot on your team, you have to find the grims first then destroy them.

marble crater
#

True, this is my fault. After the first one I thought maybe he learned his lesson

ripe obsidian
#

TIL while leveling a new character that people ragequit in Malice even more than in Auric Damnation.

#

It's ragequits all the way down

marble crater
tiny oracle
#

had a guy complaining about my lvl 21 ass in regular damnation trying to get carried

#

ended up outperforming him because creeping flames is op

marble crater
#

Every time I play with a shriek psyker and they don't spam it I die a little on the inside

tiny oracle
#

i am also guilty of this, but im reformed

marble crater
#

Is it too soon to call warp charges a noob trap, like the Vet shout revive upgrade?
Shriek is so good, you can kill entire gunner groups you didn't even see, you just suddenly see 8 gunners in the kiilfeed KEKW_ogryn

tiny oracle
#

i think it also comes from easier difficulties

#

they dont throw as many elites at you, so its a little harder to get stacks

supple dock
supple dock
#

lmao

marble crater
#

Fewer elites for stacks is fair I guess

tiny oracle
#

im 100% without fail always top damage and total kills using surge staff shriek spam

#

its just too good

#

though how are anyone else supposed to get kills when i kill them before they even turn the corner

marble crater
#

Shriek the group of shotgunners, kill two with surge, everyone burns to death. Beautiful

#

Back to 6 charges right away as well

tiny oracle
#

yep

#

also cooldown ready

#

psykinetics aura ftw

tiny oracle
#

other psyker: bruh, are you ok sibling?

#

its actually kinda scary when you think about it, if you know what the warp even is and we are still edging the shit out of it

marble crater
#

Psykers must be addicted to the warp and they edge to get high

tiny oracle
#

im glad peril dont work like in the rpgs

#

second you hit critical, oh shit too late, turns into a demonhost

marble crater
#

New mission condition idea

lethal lagoon
#

You start with two grimiores.

#

And can pick up 4 more eventually dropping to 1 hp

tiny oracle
#

i just cry when i see people misuse smite

#

it feels like its almost everyone

marble crater
#

I hate grims, they are useless

tiny oracle
#

i like grims if the team is ok with it

#

i like a challenge

#

not like health matters to us psykers anyway

#

100 goes away just as fast as 10 does

#

had a double grim run on auric with the tox gas modifier and we actually finished it

#

that was alot of fun, but my head hurt afterwards

marble crater
#

Sure, but why is it always the worst player picking it up? KEKW_ogryn

tiny oracle
#

idk maybe they dont know what the grim does

#

its not really explained anywhere

#

i did not know when i first started playing

marble crater
#

By the time you are in auric you should know

haughty star
#

I always be getting like level 40s in auric and my psyker a level 120

tiny oracle
#

is that a mod?

haughty star
#

Scoreboard

#

Pretty much errbody here running it

tiny oracle
#

i got scoreboard, but still only shows lvl 30

marble crater
#

There is a true level mod

haughty star
#

Ah idk what mods my buddy is running but he sees their actual level

tiny oracle
#

and i guess that only tracks if you have that mod

marble crater
#

Hm?

tiny oracle
#

i mean, how would it track your "true level" when the game doesnt even show it to you

marble crater
#

The game tracks it, just doesn't show you. I did a mission with someone a while back and they mentioned my true level

tiny oracle
#

imma get that and check cuz i have no idea

#

apparently 30+162

haughty star
#

Yee I don't use mods I just make my buddy stream

#

If you could only pick one which blessing for illisi, uncanny or slaughterer

tiny oracle
#

i couldnt live without scoreboard

#

i like numbers go up

#

also buy untill rating is a lifesaver when rolling for gear

late sapphire
#

i liked vermintide books but darktide books suck ass

late sapphire
#

The skulls & idols basically take the role of vermintide books

marble crater
#

Ideally I would want both of them KEKW_ogryn

haughty star
#

Yeah I was just thinking for a brain dead illisi scriers and Columbus build

edgy heart
#

Scriptures and grimmoires

late sapphire
#

That's what i was trying to convey, the scrips and grims are both worthless and the new stuff is kind of trying to fill in the hole left by old books

haughty star
marble crater
#

Yes, I used it for a time and then stopped when I started using Dueling Swords because they don't have deflector and I didn't want to try and block gunner shots with it due to muscle memory or something and then just die like a noob KEKW_ogryn

hearty oak
#

My neurons activating seeing my overkill outpacing my actual

supple dock
#

EGG

#

that's damage btw

#

the 666.6

edgy heart
late sapphire
#

And in return, i love ranald

#

I dunno i felt properly incentivizes to grab books in VT2 to get the high quality chests in DT they're just deco

edgy heart
#

I feel incentivized to grab both in both games cause it makes the gamer harder

#

That's just me, I don't even care about rewards

late sapphire
#

Makes the gamer harder eh

edgy heart
#

Just a me thing, if yall need a reward good for you

stiff falcon
untold niche
stiff falcon
#

Maybe

upper sun
#

just two more weeks

fringe garden
#

Our psyker is objectively pretty badass. He has remarkable control over his powers

feral knoll
#

What are go to Purg blessings?

hearty oak
hardy raft
#

nexus and flurry

supple dock
eager token
#

are people asleep at they keyboards tonight

supple dock
#

maybe

stiff falcon
#

What is sleep

dusk void
#

Sleep is for the weak

jovial juniper
#

Then you know where I'll be

stiff falcon
lethal lagoon
# supple dock maybe

On scale of 1 to 10, with the lowest being a 9.7, how much of that anger is directed towards getting trapped

brittle rose
#

how important is warp resist?

#

i got a staff all 72 but warp res is 36

visual phoenix
#

low warp rez on purg is rly good I must say

#

Works a lot better in terms of warp cap and vent creep flames

#

Other staffs 60 is good enough

rigid sky
#

And no +flak

marble crater
#

Update will fix it

visual phoenix
# rigid sky Crit damage pretty sad though

25 unyild prob gonna be better at that build
Sadly had to work with 10crit since I spend on that one around 30kk+ ordos

Coping on future crafting revork so I can get sub 5% warp rez

marble crater
#

30kk? 30M? throwing

visual phoenix
#

Indeed

marble crater
#

Nah no way

visual phoenix
#

Schindler list or something

#

That's like -8m idk

#

Less I think
Around 3

#

+flak on purgatus i think you don't rly need it. Flak enemies ether half dead on 11+ soulblaze or you stunlock then from LMB
Bosses and Ogryns is a bit more annoying cuz you can't rly stagger them unless flayer proc or bb

marble crater
#

Almost every enemy you burn with purgatus counts as flak, including maulers. Killing them quicker is always good

visual phoenix
#

True, depends on team comp and personal preference. For me unyild is bis :)

lethal lagoon
#

This is one of those things that's not personal preference.

#

Flak + unyielding sure.

#

Unyielding + something else, nah

#

Soooo many enemies are body flak

#

It's like saying your personal preference is to only use weapons under 350 base rating. Like I guess that's a preference.

rigid sky
#

Flak crit chance is the way imo

visual phoenix
#

Whould you take flak dmg for ttk increase on type of enemies that can be stunlocked and easily killed with enough soulblaze stacks
Or take unyild for ttk increase on type of enemies that purg cannot stagger and has higher hp pool for dmg over time scaling

Flak is surely good for trauma/surge for break point purpose, purgatus not rly making that much of a diff

marble crater
#

I have flakiac, not by choice. But it helps against dreg ragers and specials mixed in the horde I guess KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
#

the thing about unyielding is that i'm swapping off on bosses anyways and using other weapons

#

at least flak will actually see some use whereas unyielding is only useful while building up stacks

visual phoenix
#

Same, you build up to 22 stacks and switch to mele.

Isn't unyild damage scales even after you weapon swap, correct me

spice veldt
#

only the perks on the currently-held weapon are active

#

DoTs get updated in real time unlike projectiles which do indeed only care about your buffs when they were launched

marble crater
#

What was the change a few patches ago, about perks and weapon swapping?

spice veldt
#

it was specifically about projectiles and pretty much only affected assail in practicality

#

patch #17

marble crater
#

Thanks, I thought that counted for everything

#

Or more like I forgot KEKW_ogryn

visual phoenix
spice veldt
#

yeah though even those i usually stab or just don't think they pop up in enough numbers to warrant unyielding

vernal blaze
visual phoenix
spice veldt
#

it doesn't have a problem

#

it's just good to kill faster

#

and that's all that matters

marble crater
#

Maniac, Unyielding, Uncanny +Slaughterer/Deflector are good for Deimos. Unstable Power as well if you play around it

#

So you could replace Carapace and Blazing for Maniac and Uncanny on the first one, for example

rigid sky
#

All bodyshot auto targeting weapons need flak

#

Because almost everything has Flak bodies

dull osprey
#

The super piercing knife which could 1shot 1 side of a gunner patrol in line xD

spice veldt
#

the knife railgun dream is still real

#

because you're holding out your shotgun when you throw the knives

dull osprey
spice veldt
#

it's p much always been a bug

dull osprey
#

Well they didnt fix loner not disabling base aura either

#

Assume they just forgot shotguns exist

vernal blaze
#

shut up and keep needing to two tap lightly armored enemies with a shotgun at close range

spice veldt
#

it gets annoying when people just read a patch note and makes assumptions about how it works instead of, you know, just easily checking the meatgrinder to see if it still works

#

knife railgun is still a thing

#

it still works exactly like before

#

nothing about it has been changed

#

like i said

#

basically only assail has been practically affected by it

dull osprey
#

......

#

k and you realistically use piety for knives

#

stealth or chastice guarantees the crit

#

without it fishing for 1 in a 1000 crits to actually hit multiple gunners is sorry but unrealistic

spice veldt
#

whatchu mean

#

my point wasn't to argue about it being a viable build

#

my point was that it works like before

#

AKA, the knives still benefit from scattershot

#

you dingus

#

why are you shifting the argument away into something else and STILL being wrong

#

just shut up

#

at least try to be correct

dull osprey
#

omg what is the point of stuff which are theoretically possible but you cant pull it off ingame

spice veldt
#

what do you mean you can't pull it off

dull osprey
#

thats like saying thammer is the best wep cuz you can pinpoint hit every elite with the special attack inside the throng of mobs

spice veldt
#

scattershot alone is 60% crit chance

#

what miracle shit do you need

#

shoot at a clump of enemies and just keep your stacks and then go ham with throwing knives

#

and once again, you are arguing about an entirely different thing altogether

#

and are STILL wrong even though i literally told you about scattershot still working with throwing knives

dull osprey
#

its not like it wasnt me who brought that up but nvm

spice veldt
#

mf you brought it up

#

you are literally the one who remarked about manstopper not working with throwing knives anymore

dull osprey
#

yes it works even without guarantee crits but u not gonna crit fish with knives mid fight thats unrealistic

spice veldt
#

why do you need to do it mid fight

#

just stack scattershot before the fight

#

are you stupid

lunar hollow
#

scattershot just requires you to hit multiple enemies

dull osprey
#

~_~

lunar hollow
#

you can also do it on revolver with surgical (although at this point you're abusing hand-cannon for crusher one shots)

spice veldt
#

scattershot doesn't drop when throwing knives crit

#

you only lose stacks if you shoot your shotgun

dull osprey
spice veldt
#

sigh

dull osprey
#

but doesnt make the knife crit still

spice veldt
#

yeah and i don't care about whether the railgun knife build is good

#

why do you keep implying that's been my argument

dull osprey
#

idk charging into a horde and throwing 2-3 knives while charging for cleave is more benefical than just throwing it randomly

spice veldt
#

my argument thus far has been that the projectile change has not affected how the zealot railgun build functioned

#

and then you keep talking about the viability of the railgun build

#

which i do not care about

#

and you consistently keep saying wrong shit about

#

just shut up

dull osprey
#

k mr my bad you are 100% correct it sitll works mea culpa

spice veldt
#

and i'll even go through the trouble of recording something without piety just for you

#

just so that other people don't believe the stupid and wrong shit you're saying

dull osprey
#

yeah im glad that 0.000001% players who'll ever use shotgun knife cheese will sleep well after this epsecially this is an ackowledged bug waiting to be fixed

spice veldt
#

yeah and i'm one of the people who would like it to be fixed

#

i also don't run this build

#

my only gripe is not with the build but with the fact that you're just saying wrong stuff for the sake of your own arguments

#

for no reason at all

#

how you gon invent facts out of thin air for a build that only 0.000001% of players run

hearty oak
upper sun
#

this is psyker and zealot chat

hearty oak
#

the better zealot chat

spice veldt
#

zealot chat #2

hardy raft
#

servitor chat

upper sun
#

zealot chat is for other games

#

psyker chat is for the only two classes in the game

hearty oak
#

The chat waiting for the next class

devout sluice
#

Where is the techpriest chat

upper sun
#

its between ratling and ad sis channels

rigid sky
#

Zealot chat is ironically discussing Duelling swords atm

dull osprey
#

Every channel is zealot channel unless emprah says so

hardy raft
#

even ogryn can be a zealot

#

(gives throwing knife)

marble crater
#

I wonder how lights out will look on the new map pogryn

brazen rampart
#

Does perilous combustion stack with wildfire? Like, if there's a handful of ragers, I kill one and apply 3 stacks of soulblaze with perilous combustion, then kill another; does it apply 3 stacks of soulblaze and then another 3 from wildfire? Not exactly sure how the math adds up.

hardy raft
marble crater
#

Wait, are there no lights out hourglass missions?

hardy raft
#

havent seen one

marble crater
hardy raft
#

only mission-wide modifier ive seen was tox-gas

#

not even the what was it cloud one

brazen rampart
hardy raft
#

wildfire helps a bit

#

but like

#

better off just combustion stack

#

faster and easier

#

and its in more favorable position as well

brazen rampart
#

The issue is getting soulblaze to begin with.

hardy raft
#

with psyker its p easy

brazen rampart
#

It leaves you either forced to use pc or a blaze staff.

hardy raft
#

whole left tree is dedicated to it afterall(well, the ult anyway)

marble crater
#

Why wouldn't PC and wildfire stack though? The second rager would get the wildfire from the first rager and then more stacks from PC, no?

brazen rampart
#

Unless you use shriek or that one blessing that applies soulblaze on crit.

hardy raft
#

oh yeah im dumb then it'd stack

#

i think?

marble crater
#

No idea, can probably test in the meatgrinder

brazen rampart
#

It says on wildfire that it spreads up to 4 stacks but no more than that and it can't get more stacks than the dying enemy had.

hardy raft
#

it basically spreads the soulblaze stacks it had

brazen rampart
#

But I figure the game tracks wildfire and pc separately.

marble crater
#

So if PC applies before wildfire then it wouldn't work? KEKW_ogryn

brazen rampart
#

That's the million dollar question.

#

If pc applies first then wildfire is worthless as a talent unless you're bad at killing trash.

hardy raft
#

but it cannot spread more than 4 stacks(i.e. if enemy with soulblaze 15 stack died, it only spread 4) and if the nearby enemy has more stacks than the applied stack(your 3 stack enemy kill does not maek it add up the nearby enemy that has 3 stacks up to 4, i believe

brazen rampart
#

But if wildfire applies first then it's actually going to be good because it would spread up to 7 stacks with pc.

hardy raft
#

i dont think ive seen 7 stacks tbh

brazen rampart
#

I mean, that's just how the math would add up.

marble crater
brazen rampart
#

4 max from wildfire and pc stacks another 3.

#

But again this is assuming that wildfire applies before pc.

hardy raft
#

purely cause eiter if you run PC/shriek you already have more means to achieve more than 3 stacks of soulblaze and if you purely use gun and use PC there is no way for you to have a few stacks on a specific enemy for the purpose of testing

#

most of the options you have are just AoE options so

brazen rampart
#

I guess I'll just hang onto wildfire then.

#

It makes up for my duelling sword not killing crowds quickly.

spice veldt
hardy raft
#

that sounds suckish even more

#

🤔

marble crater
#

Wildfire is not great, no, but it's better the less soulblaze you have, kinda?

#

I only use it on blaze trauma

hardy raft
#

i think i have one on smite EP build

marble crater
#

I also have no mods, so I have no evidence for it doing a good job or not staregryn

brazen rampart
supple dock
marble crater
#

Khorne moment

rigid sky
#

Better for your other sources really

#

Trauma, Shriek, PC

brazen rampart
#

So only crit on force swords and ability sources.

#

Depressing.

rigid sky
#

But the pattern is poor

rigid sky
#

But Trauma blazing spirit is awesome

brazen rampart
#

Eh, I feel like force sword blazing spirit would be good on a scrier illisi setup.

rigid sky
brazen rampart
#

Though, I'm assuming it only applies soulblaze to the first target.

rigid sky
#

You do better with slaughterer uncanny etc

marble crater
#

Scrier illisi kills everything, there will be nothing to light on fire

rigid sky
#

Trauma is great with it because of how it interacts with trauma

#

How their aoe damage shape is with and without it

brazen rampart
#

So its just a huge meme then.

marble crater
#

Blaze sword? Yes KEKW_ogryn

brazen rampart
#

Wish some blessings weren't bad.

#

Gonna make an illisi meme setup of bloodthirsty and blazing spirit.

marble crater
#

Maybe the crafting update will rebalance some of the blessings we have, who knows. Would be the perfect time for a big balance patch

brazen rampart
#

On demand crits in hordes just straight up mowing everything down.

rigid sky
#

So stuff actually catches fire

brazen rampart
#

Be the first man to actually have a 0 roll on a weapon.

rigid sky
#

I have Shredder Bloodthirsty ATM as well

#

Uh

#

Slaughterer bloodthirsty

zinc phoenix
#

I tried blaze illsi with blaze trauma

rigid sky
#

Sorry have bad brain day

zinc phoenix
#

Not a good combo

rigid sky
#

Imo you want a single target melee with that anyway

#

Deimos or ds4

#

Anything you'd wanna illisi can just be traumad

radiant frigate
#

this is why i do not like trauma

brazen rampart
#

Trauma is the explosive staff, right?

radiant frigate
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Yes

rigid sky
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Very annoying staff to build

radiant frigate
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summon circle make booms

rigid sky
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But when you get there it's awesome

brazen rampart
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I am intentionally avoiding using it because it's icky.

radiant frigate
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i am avoiding it because i want to play sword wizard and not wizard wizard

rigid sky
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One day you will try it again out of curiosity

brazen rampart
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Every psyker I've met that has used one thinks they are, in fact, John Darktide, but they instantly die and blame it on their team.

rigid sky
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And then it will just click

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My trauma build is super tank actually

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Tanky

brazen rampart
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Nah I have a super good voidstrike staff. I don't need trauma.

rigid sky
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For psyker standards

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I run everything tbh

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I love all the psyker styles

brazen rampart
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Anything that's worth trauma-ing is worth pressing c on and going ham with my sword.

rigid sky
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Keeps things interesting

brazen rampart
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And anything my sword can't reach, my voidstrike can.

rigid sky
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Typically the weakness with that build is bosses

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Take DD if you go voidstrike btw

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Funny crusher one shots

brazen rampart
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Dd?

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Not familiar with the shorthand.

rigid sky
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Disrupt Destiny

brazen rampart
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Oh yeah ofc.

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I have it on a scrier disrupt destiny setup with a deimos sword.

rigid sky
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Crushers die in one ranged attack it's crazy

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I'm not ballsy enough to go staff scriers lol

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I just take shriek

brazen rampart
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It's even funnier because it's a crit every time I pull out the staff.

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I don't remember the talent but once you get 5 weak spot hits your next ranged attack is a guaranteed crit.

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So you whip out that voidstrike staff and cleave through 6 crushers.

marble crater
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True aim thumbsup_ogryn

brazen rampart
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As for bosses though, that's what brain burst is for.

rigid sky
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Yeah, you can go Surge flurry with that

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Yep that works

brazen rampart
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I don't use assail or smite on that setup.

rigid sky
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My trauma is EP so I get my boss damage that way too

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But my void uses assail

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Maybe I should go rupture next time for the boss damage specifically

brazen rampart
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It's also useful to peek gunners with.

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Peek, lock, step back behind cover, crunch the brain, repeat.

rigid sky
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Assail does that well too

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It's just the bosses thing for me mostly

brazen rampart
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Not nearly as efficiently.

rigid sky
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It's pretty efficient with DD

brazen rampart
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Assail is good for a pseudo suppression against gunners if you're far away, that's about it.

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Anyway, running voidstrike with scriers aint a terrible idea. You use the staff when scriers is on cooldown and your sword when it isn't.

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Voidstrike is surprisingly good at horde clearing.

rigid sky
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Especially shines in corridors

supple dock
hearty oak
zinc phoenix
marble crater
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Hadron is about to do unspeakable things to this Deimos

brazen rampart
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I pray for you.

upper sun
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🙏

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EMPEROR GUIDE HIS HAND

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wow that was 30 minutes ago

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i think he finally broke

lusty seal
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Hadron claims another victim

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Can MK 4 stagger a crusher before it pancakes you?

upper sun
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I think on weakspot hits

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but i only run mk4 with trauma so thats not an issue KEKW_ogryn