#psyker-class

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dense valley
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aight thx

upper sun
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do you have a script for it or do you have a rhythm for quell cancelling?

plucky flax
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It's just standard quell cancel.

dense valley
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wait fr ???

plucky flax
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Spam and pray. PraygeA

upper sun
dense valley
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purge staff dd lesgo

plucky flax
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You tap r very lightly.

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If you hold it even slightly too long it fuck up your rhythm.

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I do it average. I've seen much faster quell cancel.

upper sun
marble crater
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Play more, learn gitgud
Pretty much

plucky flax
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But if you have mouse or keyboard with good supportive app just use macro.

upper sun
plucky flax
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I think razor let you do it?

marble crater
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Macros are cheating staregryn

plucky flax
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I would use ahk script but I am dumdum. 😦

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Someone make me quell cancel ahk script pls.

upper sun
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i just gotta buy one of those tempo things piano players use

dense valley
upper sun
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nope

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purge is only center mass

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for both attacks

finite sigil
plucky flax
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The bulwark nerf also buff purga.

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You can just aim high and hit bulwarks now.

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Don't care for their shield.

rigid sky
plucky flax
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(Still worst staff kek )

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Jk blaze trauma is worst. whatthefuck_heresy

dense valley
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i think staff choices are pretty competitive

upper sun
marble crater
plucky flax
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Trust me anything is better than blaze trauma. whatthefuck_heresy

marble crater
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Time to play power maul and recon lasgun staregryn

analog agate
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Gotta love pubs. Think I went through 5 different people the map

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~35 min game

narrow herald
analog agate
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Actually, 29 min. I looked

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Yeah, only thing I cant clutch is a chaos spawn

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too oppressive

narrow herald
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Spawns are pretty straight forward, the problem is that your team probably doesn't know what they are doing and try to aggro it away for you when they have 5 mutants on them

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hears multiple disablers spawns

attacks spawn directly and doesn't notice the 12 gunners shooting at them 😔

rigid sky
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Yeah, unless you're a boss specialist you gotta focus the disablers and pressure elites first

narrow herald
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Behold the attacks blocked

upper galleon
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Communicate with your fellow rejects

dense valley
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is there any optimized illisi combo or u can just spam whatever lol

marble crater
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H1 into L2

rigid sky
lone ravine
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i do wish inspecting power up special on weapons would give you at least clue on how much dmg it gave

rigid sky
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Or spam power heavies

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Basically do what you want

upper galleon
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But there is still some available to you

dense valley
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ye i found all attack are somewhat similar

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maybe L1 is more vertical

finite sigil
# upper galleon Communicate with your fellow rejects

whats up with gamers just accepting that being given no info is normal now... all games are made for people to just live on the wiki/forum to farm engagement it feels like. I just want basic weapon info before I spend 10k gold to get a new item XD

marble crater
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Stats are random, so not seeing basic info might be on purpose heh

rigid sky
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It doesn't help that a lot of blessings are worded wrongly too

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Plus the way that weakspot and crit damage scales

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Which makes the perks that offer those a noob trap

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(On that note never take crit damage or weakspot damage perks on weapons)

finite sigil
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like im at the armory and im looking at the trauma staff. It doesnt tell me how much damage it does, if its AOE, or even if it DOES damage

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trauma staff to me sounds like it heals allies

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and that seems broken

rigid sky
marble crater
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Trauma my beloved

finite sigil
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so i buy it for 80% of my gold and find out when i finally get into mission, no. It uses your magic bar for ammo

hearty oak
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That be an interesting staff to have. One that heals

rigid sky
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Trauma is junk at low levels too

finite sigil
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the same magic bar that gers depleted by 50% when i pop a dudes brain

rigid sky
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It needs to be perfect to be good

rigid sky
finite sigil
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thats

rigid sky
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Reload while having a warp weapon out or your blitz

finite sigil
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not at all the point im making

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the issue is i didnt know what the hell i was paying for 😄

sacred crane
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@finite sigil i assume you just started playing psyker

finite sigil
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and i greifed my teammates and the mission

marble crater
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Don't pay for weapons until you are max level

finite sigil
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well im lvl 7 and just started the game

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so i want to... experience the game

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but this game loves to hide weapon stats

rigid sky
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Nothing wrong with buying weapons from the hourly store tbh

marble crater
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Yeah, don't buy or upgrade weapons yet and avoid staves, to be honest. Stick to guns, melee and assail thumbsup_ogryn

rigid sky
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Surge and purgatus are OK for lower levels

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Maybe voidstrike too even

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Just avoid trauma

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Until 30

hearty oak
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Absolutely pick up what you want and try them out. Some weapons are just a little more intuitive than others. Trauma is not and requires very specific builds to make it work

rigid sky
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At 30 it is probably the best

finite sigil
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anyway im stuck with this trauma staff and all its doing for me is giving ME trauma

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big stinky, dont like it

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need help on what i should go for

marble crater
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Spam assail, win

finite sigil
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gotcha will do, i tried to use the force lightning but it does no damage

hearty oak
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Need it in conjunction of creeping flames vent

marble crater
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But you should also practice melee while leveling, or you will be in for a tough time in higher difficulties, dodge, block, push.

hearty oak
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Otherwise, it's just a tazer

finite sigil
sacred crane
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@finite sigil run down of staffs since yeah:
Trauma: Able to make explosion accure below enemies, probably the best staff but poor boss dps
Voidstrike: Shoot a giant ball of energy, heavy stagger on enemies and able to do great damage, also the staff with most range, poor boss dps
Surge: Able to do high crit damage and high damage in general at the cost of attacking 1-2 enemies at a time also decent boss dps
Purg: Basically a flamethrower staff, great cc damage and M1 does great stagger, not good against crushers and can deal with bosses a little

finite sigil
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and im lvl 7

finite sigil
marble crater
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Yes

upper galleon
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And just focus on testing shit out

sacred crane
hearty oak
upper galleon
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Save resources till level 30 besides trying weapons you are interested in

marble crater
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Outside of gun psyker, psyker weakness is dealing with bosses

finite sigil
upper galleon
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At your level and difficulty weapons don’t matter besides what you enjoy

finite sigil
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i enjoy zapping stuff

upper galleon
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And the meta isn’t limiting you can almost pick whatever you find fun

hearty oak
finite sigil
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the issue with assail is I dont want it to replace my gun ya know

hearty oak
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In the low difficulties, everything is overpowered, if that makes sense?

marble crater
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Assail is a second gun with free ammo

finite sigil
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i feel like the powers should give more utility than damage

sacred crane
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Like a panic gun button

hearty oak
finite sigil
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i mean im coming from vermintide

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i guess so

hearty oak
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Darktide is a different beast with funny quirks

sacred crane
upper sun
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dudes be like darktide is so quirky then DC at the last event

upper galleon
marble crater
upper sun
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FATSHARK OWES ME 1400 PLASTEEL FOR GAMES IVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF

marble crater
sacred crane
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Fatshark owes me infinite plasteel and ordos

finite sigil
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😔 oh no its the "git guud" gamer

upper sun
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staregryn my brain can only handle 2 auric games a day

marble crater
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That's not a lot whaaa

sacred crane
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If I see a psyker using smite 70% of the game I am gonna tell them to get good

finite sigil
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10 auric matches or one league of legend game

upper sun
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i still dont have the 100 auric games penance

marble crater
upper sun
finite sigil
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no

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ranked

upper sun
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FUCK

sacred crane
upper sun
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10 auric

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actually maybe league if i can play LEONA SUPPORT

finite sigil
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good answer

sacred crane
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Majority of me and my sibling here typically play auric

marble crater
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Auric is better than normal missions, the things you see there staregryn

upper sun
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how is my wife doing? i havent played since 2017

finite sigil
hearty oak
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All I do is auric maelstroms. All you meet are those who THOUGHT they were ready for it. And those who know spend too much time asking for the ability to do custom maelstroms

upper sun
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who cares how is leona support is it still cancer?

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i still have great memories of going full page of armor runes and going in and levels 1, 2, and 3

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shit was toxic

finite sigil
sacred crane
upper sun
upper galleon
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Jokes on you it’s double ap bot time

marble crater
upper galleon
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Apc all the rage

upper sun
upper galleon
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Good luck jumping on karma brand

upper sun
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one slap at you're at 20% hp

finite sigil
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the .7% crit rune that all ADCs would run. it was just a lottery on who wins the first trade

upper sun
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bro coming at me with that 5hp karma shield

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WE GO HAM AT ALL LEVELS

upper galleon
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Free food

upper sun
finite sigil
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also does the different melee weapon matter?

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i feel like they all the same

upper galleon
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Yall only got a chance rushin level 2 first and all in’ing

sacred crane
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I remember my first auric mission a fellow sibling got pissed someone got downed at the beginning of the match and decided to activily grief and go afk and say in vc "No fuck this, kick me of you want I'm not playing" then I was forced to clutch (we won anyways somehow)

upper galleon
finite sigil
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running this devil claw sword, its ight

upper galleon
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Same name= same weapon

upper sun
finite sigil
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blocks alot of attacks from bosses

marble crater
finite sigil
upper galleon
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Same weapon type= different name = weapon variant

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Dclaw has a parry

upper sun
upper galleon
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On special action

upper sun
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other than that i can say the best advice is to not craft anything until level 30

upper galleon
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Variants will have different swing patterns and maybe some different stats, different weapon families have entirely different functions

marble crater
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Try an illisi when you can. Illisi my beloved

upper sun
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illisi is love

sacred crane
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Also later on, your go to weapons as psyker are gonna be the deimos, illisi and dueling sword mk4

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Dueling sword being my fav cuz it can make up for boss dps when using staff

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Also cuz armor pen and headshot damage

marble crater
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Also because speed

sacred crane
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True, great speed

marble crater
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Fatshark, please give us an illisi with dueling sword mobility

sacred crane
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Also I feel like a fancy frenchmen that is a professional at dueling

finite sigil
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makes me feel good

sacred crane
hearty oak
upper sun
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FORCE DAGGER NOW

hearty oak
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Give me a force sword that shoots psychic waves

sacred crane
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Honestly dueling swords make me feel fancy asf and professional

marble crater
hearty oak
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next patch: you can BB yourself now

sacred crane
marble crater
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So a dedicated gunker gun?

upper sun
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bb second upgrade should make it only target elites and specialists DEBATE ME

lone ravine
sacred crane
marble crater
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Any day now Late

sacred crane
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Because tbh, us psykers get cucked by fatshark out of new exclusive weapond

marble crater
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We can make fun of zealots for not having dueling swords at least

lone ravine
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there has to be SOME gun in wh40k that is able to have its ammunition infused with psychic power

upper galleon
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we'd be too good and get them nerfed

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don't need that happening

sacred crane
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Weve only gotten the new laspistol, revolver, chainsword and knife...which vet and zealot can also use and they still got new exclusive weapons

upper galleon
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ds4 with 54% attack speed and duelist?

marble crater
sacred crane
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I WANT MORE ATTACK SPEED AS PSYKER

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FAST MELEE SPEED

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Become the ultimate duelist

upper galleon
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i think we, humble and holy zealots, have basically agreed that we do need nerfs in several areas

finite sigil
lone ravine
finite sigil
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so whats the point of the combat blade?

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its single target and youre not exactly a front liner...

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you DO get a punch

lone ravine
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there is no point to it, you just kinda have it

marble crater
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Great mobility, boss damage

finite sigil
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i liek how fast it swings tbh

marble crater
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Yes, it's great at giving you carpal tunnel syndrome

finite sigil
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auto clicker macroooo

karmic finch
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There's full auto for semi auto guns

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Which on the mk IV ilg is mandatory lol

finite sigil
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wait theres mods that dont get you banned

analog agate
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no mods get you banned. besides one. that you can only get through back channels

radiant frigate
karmic finch
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I swear the ilg even has a fire mode toggle on the side of the gun model

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Or what looks to be one

lethal lagoon
rigid sky
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Replace it with the other old brain burst talent that didn't get carried into patch 13

marble crater
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Or complain about smite sub nodes I guess, even though I enjoy the extra jump one

lethal lagoon
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See, we'll lose this peak level comedy.

marble crater
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99% of psykers stop using Flayer before hitting the next elite

stone totem
scarlet timber
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Guys

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I be honest I did some shriek build with trauma and knife

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With bb

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I think I was basically our groups main damage for most of the game

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So @hearty oak thanks for suggesiom

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Bb spam after using your ability was pretty strong

hearty oak
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Its berry strong indeed

scarlet timber
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The knife also got pretty good boss damage I was pretty suprised

hearty oak
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I havent tried a knoife on a boss yet. Just prefer to do the role of killing everything else cause you're good up to that point

marble crater
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Yep, kill everything around the boss and let others handle the main damage on it

sacred crane
marble crater
split lance
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why do my builds feel better in auric damnation that regular damnation

lethal lagoon
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Lots of psyker stuff has basically infinite cleave

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Plus PC and various Elite kill talents

marble crater
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And generally better teammates who either better contribute or take advantage of builds

lethal lagoon
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That part makes it feel worse

marble crater
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How so? sus

lethal lagoon
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You should already know how

marble crater
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One example from before the smite buff is players ignoring the smitten(?) targets instead of killing them sus

lethal lagoon
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Yeah but I like that

marble crater
lethal lagoon
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So assuming there is no other enemy on the map to grant you more EP charges, it takes about 1 minute and 30 seconds to kill 1-50 crushers.

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But what if you had elites and other enemies providing charges and CD.

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Unironically, not that bad. And you are 100% safe the whole time of course.

marble crater
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Please don't encourage this

lethal lagoon
marble crater
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Yesterday I was thanked again for using smite KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
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Unrealiable narrator.

marble crater
lethal lagoon
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I meant him.

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Also a trauma user is like the last person who should thank a smite user

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It literally lowers your cleave

marble crater
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Yet he saw my heroism and thanked me anyway, truly a great person and teammate

lethal lagoon
split lance
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blaze or nah

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charge too low?

upper sun
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ye charge is on the lower side

split lance
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this is my current and even tho dmg is low its still so nice bc of the charfge

marble crater
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Charge is low enough for it to be painful, especially switching from high charge and Flurry

zinc phoenix
marble crater
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Nah, I'm from Germany. We don't clap for minor accomplishments, use the dollar and Obama isn't here either.
But I got a fun little story out of it to share POGGERS

upper sun
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its true humor is banned there staregryn

fading depot
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A thousand curses on the dev responsible for this shit

upper sun
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if you think thats bad look at ogryn

fading depot
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I finished Ogryn already, this barrel shit is taking forever

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It's one of the few penances I have left

upper sun
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also i love the random penances that go like kill 9999 trillion +1 penance point :))))

marble crater
upper sun
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you have a quota of one rmb smite per game or 3 lmb smites

marble crater
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What happens if you use it more? Asking for a sibling

zinc phoenix
upper sun
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your knees 😭

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germany has its own problems the bureaucracy is worse than hell

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ive been trying to notify the gov that i left for 5 months i emailed several immigration offices and one embassy zero responses

marble crater
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Sorry, we are busy hosting the Euro 2024 right now, try again later

zinc phoenix
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You guys have a party for your rainbow money?

upper sun
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not my problem i did my part if their records are tainted its on them

zinc phoenix
upper sun
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😨

molten pond
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On Psyker scale, how powerful is the playable psyker?

stiff falcon
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Weak

molten pond
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So Average?

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Doesnt seem to be able to exert much warp power on their own

broken carbon
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not particularly strong but not really weak

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they definitely have better self-restraint/peril resistance than most psykers, especially considering that they’re unsanctioned

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at least i think they’re unsanctioned

molten pond
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So what are the voices they hear?

broken carbon
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depends

broken carbon
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as psykers on tabletop are just chances to cause perils

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while in game they can manage and quell them to completely avoid perils

molten pond
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So is it a fractured personality, insanity or an outside influence?

broken carbon
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it could be a saint

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(which i would love, we need more imperial demons)

molten pond
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Wouldnt Inquisition know?

broken carbon
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what do you mean?

molten pond
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That there is a psyker influenced by a demon working for them

broken carbon
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oh yeah they know

molten pond
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You would think they got that policed

broken carbon
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inquisitors do a lot worse lmfao

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some inquisitors make daemonhosts to serve them

radiant frigate
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force greatsword when?

broken carbon
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doesn’t always work out lmfao

molten pond
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So zealot is just crazy?

broken carbon
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no?

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zealots don’t talk to any voices

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i mean zealots are crazy but not schizo crazy

molten pond
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Well they certainly charge into battle with little more than a sword and faith

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Also whats up with "Blood for the God Emperor, Skulls for the Golden Throne"?

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Sounds oddly heretical

broken carbon
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it is

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but there’s a reason we’re rejects

molten pond
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Isnt it zealot who says it?

broken carbon
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yeah

molten pond
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So zealot is a heretic

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Psyker got thrown in for being a witch

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What did Veteran do?

broken carbon
molten pond
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Skulls for the Golden Throne would warrant an execution

broken carbon
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the characters are all thrown in from different reasons, you can see it when you make your character

molten pond
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I never pay attention to that

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I read that but I pick the reason for uniform color

broken carbon
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there’s different options when you make them

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lmfao

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me too

molten pond
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Like none of them fit Ogryn

broken carbon
molten pond
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They also imply that the accusation is shady

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Whatever you pick

broken carbon
molten pond
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Even saying rations suck they send you on a prison ship

broken carbon
bold cape
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well yeah
40k is like, a caricature of total, hyper extremist fascism

broken carbon
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yarp

molten pond
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I pitty the guardsmen appointed to an Inquisition ship

bold cape
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@lethal lagoon lurker

molten pond
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But I dont recognise their uniform

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Sometimes its red

broken carbon
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it’s probably much better QOL

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inquisition guardsmen

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they have a special name i can’t remember right now

broken carbon
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but they tend to be much better trained and equipped

stiff falcon
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Otherwise they would be a bound witch or just out right executed

molten pond
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Isnt Moebian 6th kicking our guards's arse?

broken carbon
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we haven’t seen any full on battles

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but the moebian 6th like outnumber the inquisition

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which is why they’re falling to sending rejects in on what are essentially suicide missions

marble crater
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4 of just killed 3k of them, they are not a big deal

stiff falcon
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Ran into a smite gunker and he had 4 wounds

broken carbon
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lmfao

stiff falcon
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Entire team was rough

broken carbon
molten pond
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God Emperor is guiding us

broken carbon
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being in the mere presence of a plague ogryn should kill us lmfao

marble crater
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My beloved is guiding me

stiff falcon
molten pond
broken carbon
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love to see it

broken carbon
stiff falcon
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Picked up a grim, let him die

broken carbon
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our zealot’s are clearly faithful enough, (or possibly latent psykers) to channel miracles (chorus of the faithful)

stiff falcon
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We wiped because the stealth zealot picked up the second one

broken carbon
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so it’s not impossible for the faith to be protecting us

broken carbon
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awesome

molten pond
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Also there is an exhange with the Veteran, that pain cleanses the soul. Veteran replies that his is whiter than snow

stiff falcon
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Was not in the mood to clutch on my hellbore

molten pond
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So the Veteran is as loyal as they come

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Same for Ogryn

broken carbon
molten pond
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Unsure how loyal is the Psyker

broken carbon
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they were saying, “if pain cleanses the soul, then i must be pure” from all the pain that they have gone through

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because they’re all veterans of war, so they’ve seen some shit

late sapphire
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Vets are sardonic veteran guardsmen

molten pond
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Cadian Veteran has seen the end of the world and lived through it

stone totem
broken carbon
# molten pond Unsure how loyal is the Psyker

the entire cast is pretty loyal, they say things that seem unloyal or borderline heretical, but it’s done in the name of the emperor. the only outright heretical lines come from one of the psyker personalities, where they talk about the truth of the emperor (being a decaying corpse)

late sapphire
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I like to think the beloved psyker is actually talking to one of the fractured shards of big E's psyche

stone totem
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Because the "beloved" seems to me like it's a shard of the emperor's psychic whatever, they're mostly loyal by that virtue

broken carbon
late sapphire
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Even though it's more likely to be a demon pretending to be big E given the setting

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Can't have nice things

median sorrel
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Female seer (beloved Psyker ) has multiple voice lines about just wanting to be a good soldier

stiff falcon
late sapphire
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In terms of psyker/operative power level we're galactically low tier, theres uncountably many that can wipe the floor with us, but on a local scale we're really quite impressive

broken carbon
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legion of the damned, the saints,

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etc.

stone totem
late sapphire
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Not many operatives that can 1v1 daemonhosts, even restrained ones

median sorrel
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Male loose cannon openly suggests deserting

molten pond
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Isnt Legion of the Damned a myth?

late sapphire
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Not that many players that can do it either, i guess

broken carbon
stone totem
broken carbon
worn beacon
late sapphire
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I've only pulled off a complete solo dh kill once, if you don't count thammers and ogryn slaps

molten pond
median sorrel
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Cadians go 5 seconds without mentioning Cadia challenge

worn beacon
late sapphire
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You used to be able to stunlock any boss to death with them, yes

molten pond
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Big golden boys are so powerful but when you need them fight an actual battle they turn into Star Trek's Red Shirts and fuckin die

late sapphire
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Outside of ones with the commander shields

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Dunno how much they nerfed it, i've been busy irl

stone totem
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Was it the Cadian vet with the guttural VoC lines?

broken carbon
late sapphire
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And by the way, an ogryn with a functional iq (read: one being played by us) would be a proper menace in universe

broken carbon
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the only time they were made useless was on horus’s ship, when they got overridden by chaos and driven insane

median sorrel
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Ogryns if they could count higher than 4

molten pond
stone totem
molten pond
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Talking 99% casualty rate

broken carbon
late sapphire
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I could have held the line just saying

broken carbon
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yeah me personally i could’ve done it but

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that’s just me tho

late sapphire
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Why didn't they go warpfire shriek

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Idiots

stone totem
broken carbon
late sapphire
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Custards are still around

molten pond
late sapphire
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I think they still get made

broken carbon
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a lot of the venerated dreadnaughts are old enough to remember the emperor

broken carbon
late sapphire
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There's a loyalist primarch or two floating around as well

broken carbon
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ill be honest, i don’t know much about the specifics of that battle

late sapphire
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As in yknow the entire new lore

molten pond
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There is also this one super rare Custodes armor thats purple

stone totem
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It's kind of surprising that they wouldn't be able to be advisors to the imperium by way of preserving big E's actual views

molten pond
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Made by Big E himself

broken carbon
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they’re made still

stone totem
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You'd think the higher government/CIA equivalent would turn to those beings for guidance on how the emperor acted

late sapphire
#

Silly

stone totem
#

xd

molten pond
stone totem
#

Also the fact that I remembered that the Emperor kinda treated himself like a 1 man plan to my knowledge

stone totem
#

So they wouldn't really know too good anyway

late sapphire
#

Papa smurf is on his way to re instate a proper imperium

#

Whenever he gets done shagging his elf gf

molten pond
broken carbon
#

yeah

#

he kinda fucked it up overall

molten pond
#

Guilliman says its a plan he only half knows

stone totem
late sapphire
#

Lorgar, one of the traitor primarchs, turned the emperors own atheistic Imperial Truth into the Imperial Cult

#

It's funny because the entire empire is basically heretical

stone totem
molten pond
#

Wait, is my brain wacky or Guilliman got a Primaris helmet?

#

Its very flat to the face

late sapphire
broken carbon
late sapphire
#

The emperor had a whole thing about wiping out all religion during his original unification back in the earthen days

stone totem
#

Because it was a cult

broken carbon
#

uhh

#

shrug

#

idk

molten pond
#

How does the Veteran know of Idomitus Crusade?

late sapphire
#

The dialogue between big E and the last priest on earth is so popular within the community that there's a bunch of voice-overs of it

stone totem
molten pond
#

He also knows Guilliman is alive

stone totem
#

Or, as surprising as a hyper-militaristic cult could be ig

broken carbon
late sapphire
#

By the way

#

Anyone know the status of the other loyalist primarchs?

broken carbon
molten pond
#

Didnt it last like 10 years? Thats surprisingly short

late sapphire
#

I only know of a handful of em

broken carbon
late sapphire
#

Kidnapped, in weird immortal resurrection hell, shadow demoned

broken carbon
#

other than those 2 we don’t know

broken carbon
molten pond
#

Vulcan is literally asleep

#

He cant die so he took a nap

#

Thousand year nap but still a nap

late sapphire
#

Well, we know where sanguinius is

broken carbon
#

(dead)

molten pond
#

Dead

broken carbon
#

(very very very dead)

late sapphire
#

very

#

curze is sort of kind of around i think

broken carbon
#

although the sanguinor is out there

molten pond
#

Didnt Guilliman meet Dante?

broken carbon
late sapphire
#

dante is very much not a primarch

broken carbon
late sapphire
#

Yeah that was on ball

#

I think dante is all primarised up now

molten pond
#

I also heard Guilliman's revival was in the middle of a battle

stone totem
broken carbon
late sapphire
#

I was just wondering if any new news came out

broken carbon
#

he got revived and then just slaughtered everything around him

molten pond
#

He had pent up rage

broken carbon
#

can you blame him

molten pond
#

Imagine being the poor fuck invading the Ultra Marines. And a literal Demi God shows up to turn you to red mist

late sapphire
#

Imagine that feeling when you get up from the toilet after constipation but instead of 30min you sat on the proverbial toilet for a few thousand years after basically watching everything you care about get destroyed

broken carbon
#

lmfao

#

that’s a good way to put it

late sapphire
#

Guilliman was not a happy camper

broken carbon
#

it’s like finally clearing up the constipation you’ve had for 10 thousand years

#

and now all that rage needs to go somewhere

upper sun
late sapphire
#

Pretty sure he met with big E, also

stone totem
#

Cawl was there for Guilliman's revival too? Shit that guy gets around, love him

broken carbon
late sapphire
broken carbon
upper sun
#

when is my man vulkan coming back 😭

broken carbon
#

tomorrow

#

trust

#

god told me

late sapphire
#

He'll come back just in time to instantly die again

upper sun
#

he got the most bullshit story

broken carbon
#

sacrifice his life to kill an extremely powerful ork/krork

#

boom 7 more of them appear

#

like

upper sun
#

uhhhh guys i know i cant die and even if i do ill come back later buy you guys need to hunt down my groceries before i come back

broken carbon
#

wtf

#

oh you meant that LMFAO

#

true

#

“you guys need to pick up my kids, clean my room, wash the dishes…”

upper sun
#

bruh like who wrote that shit

broken carbon
#

who knows

late sapphire
#

Man i wish GW wasn't stupid

#

I miss my tts show

broken carbon
#

REAL

#

better story than some of the books lmfao

upper sun
late sapphire
#

Don't think you can cross this one out big man

molten pond
#

Guilliman has most powerful card among the primarchs

#

He got raised by a mother

#

So he can call the traitor primarchs motherless bastards

upper sun
stone totem
#

Everywhere I look it seems to be that there's no unified opinion on if Guilliman and Aeldar are gonna keep being chill or not

broken carbon
#

they probably will be

late sapphire
#

Not like the aeldari are perfectly unified either

stone totem
#

I gather that the Aeldar wanted Guilliman alive because it would help them survive but hopefully they go beyond just using each other out of necessity

late sapphire
#

With yvraine on his side he's likely to uphold at least cordial relationships for now

#

The aeldari know that a fully reinvigorated imperium without major changes would spell death for them, and at the same time they need it to be strong enough to barely contend with basically every single other force

stone totem
#

That's tuff for them

#

Well GW killed Fantasy, maybe they'll give 40k a good ending instead in

#

30 years or something

late sapphire
#

Guilliman is more or less the one chance they have to break out of this precarious balance

broken carbon
stone totem
#

Yeah realistically

upper sun
#

did the ultra marines have any gene seed problems when he was dead?

#

this is bricked right?

broken carbon
#

the current blessing n perk isn’t great but it’s worth a shot

upper sun
#

i have high standards for surge

#

ive been chasing a good roll surge for months now

#

maybe crafting update will let me change the crit perk to elites

#

and then..... my pain will finally end and my spirit can move on

marble crater
#

Looking through bases and weapons will take a while, if we can fix them. Depending on the update might be faster to craft something new loregryn

worthy stratus
#

Anyone know what the best blessings for duelling sword are?

late sapphire
#

Billions must rend

bold cape
worthy stratus
#

Saw one in Melk's with a level 4 precog

#

but that 2 second duration...

bold cape
#

precog can give insane damage but it’s far too inconsistent to be reliable

worthy stratus
#

yeah...

bold cape
#

you can hit 2 shot crusher breakpoints without it anyway

worthy stratus
#

rather be able to get consistent value out of my blessings

#

rather than saving me from doing one heavy in a mission

ornate hamlet
#

Rampage dueling sword my beloved

bold cape
#

never liked rampage for it, saw no point in it
on gunker my ds4 is strong enough to handle hordes just fine without it, and on my other builds i have better forms of horde clear anyway

edgy heart
sacred crane
upper sun
#

i fucking hate this game sometimes

#

this shit never happens to me when i play zealot

wind spruce
# worthy stratus Anyone know what the best blessings for duelling sword are?

As Alyx said uncanny is a must.
I'll just add that it's pretty much no contest for riposte being the 2nd best blessing. It's vastly superior to every other option, and specifically outclasses shred because it will proc when you're moving into combat with shooters, specials, etc. Duelling sword also wants you to use attacks for mobility limiting shreds usefulness.

hollow current
#

Uncanny for sure as first pick.

Riposte for braindead safe second blessing. Precognition for something that’ll make a difference if you’re not bad at melee.

ornate hamlet
#

One thing about shred is that now it has a timer and doesn't go down on push attacks and cancels

#

It still goes away if you miss, but it doesn't ask you to only left-click anymore

hearty oak
thorn cedar
#

i like smite 😦

upper sun
#

im gonna start start dodging everytime i see someone with the name fallguy in my game

hexed geyser
#

Smite as a tool to force push and stun everything for a second is fun. Roleplaying palpatine is dumb

upper sun
#

theres like 5 people with that name that all speed run

hearty oak
#

You know. A lot of knife zealots get mad when I help them in a horde of elite enemies and then say strange things like "I'm going for a penance, can you leave some for me" and "bro you blew that poxburster up when I was going to push it" when it was clear across the room, they just wanted to be in the blast radius

sturdy pasture
#

At least you don’t have teammates that are level 30 walking into daemonhosts

#

If I had a nickel for everytime that happened I’d have two nickels

wind spruce
hollow current
ornate hamlet
spice veldt
#

riposte and precog both help with crusher/mauler bps (though i only know about non +carapace perk bps)
and w/o some other dmg buff, my build requires crits for rager oneshots even if precog is up

wind spruce
spice veldt
#

though it is true that damage only matters if it contributes to breakpoints

thorn cedar
#

i so fucken hard want psyker to get a shotgun. doing a short right-left click zap and then mulching a crowd with a kantrael and no respite is all i want

wind spruce
thorn cedar
#

i will continue to rave about this

ornate hamlet
#

I am loyal to the staff but I hope you get your wish

ornate hamlet
#

yeah but vet doesnt have magic so

thorn cedar
#

vet aint got no lightning fingers

#

you fool

upper sun
#

then what is plasma gun?

ornate hamlet
#

technology

#

fake magic

#

a crude mockery

#

an insult to god

upper sun
#

tbh i dont see why we cant have shotguns

#

they suck ass

#

but why not

spice veldt
#

too heavy for us

bold cape
#

crits without precog hit enough bps as it is for me

upper sun
#

as long as we get bolt pistol in the next patch and a new staff in the next 6 months im happy tbh

spice veldt
#

they put lead weights in the shotgun to bar us from using them

#

they stole our planet fitness card

upper sun
upper sun
#

maybe a dagger or a two handed sword?

stiff falcon
#

Too complex

upper sun
#

bruh we need unique specials for force weapons

#

ogryns gauntlets special fucks

#

vets have bayonet rush

#

we dont got shit

wind spruce
#

It's OK siblings

#

Only eight days until we get shotguns

bold cape
#

surely

upper sun
#

shurly

wind spruce
#

Temple

upper sun
#

i just wan a new melee

#

because apparently i can only play trauma now

#

every other staff i play i wipe on or explode on

#

i see my name with the elite kills 90% of the time

bold cape
#

ive been playing a load of drg, balatro and er waiting for the darktide update
me need a break from having weapons getting bricked

ornate hamlet
#

im making bank from getting everyone to 30 then im gonna blow it all in 10 mins raahhhhh i love gambling

hollow current
# bold cape if you're strictly only hitting armor, maybe? the main thing is the 2 second dur...

I wouldn't say it's inconsistent. It triggers exactly the same as riposte, it just has a shorter duration which is undeniable. My position however is that those two seconds while very short are also very powerful and more useful to me than six seconds of substantially higher crit rate because I can still crit AND get that heavy finesse bonus. I recognize riposte is far more forgiving than precognition, but I also still hold that precognition is better as a second blessing when you actually need it.

wind spruce
#

It's absolutely not better. It barely even does more damage then riposte. It doesn't help trigger mettle, EE or perfect timing and describing the uptime as inconsistent is extremely generous.

#

And as arco shows, there's situations where even if you're getting 100% uptime and hitting heads that riposte outclasses it in terms of raw damage

hollow current
wind spruce
#

It's the average damage increase per hit

hollow current
#

average damage increase per hit while under both effects will be higher with precognition active versus riposte active. especially more so when precognition crits.

wind spruce
#

The table literally shows that with DD that isn't true.

hollow current
spice veldt
#

the calculation is fairly transparent

hollow current
#

Riposte increases crit chance by a lot. I'm going to ball park but say maybe 30-50% DS crit chance when it's active?

spice veldt
#

basically yeah

hollow current
#

Another thing I like about precognition is I don't have to worry about RNG. Riposte can give you a string of luck or nothing. Precognition is a certain buff.

bold cape
#

im on the side that riposte is far better, but i also gotta say that just because the numbers are better doesn't always directly equate to better performance in-game

spice veldt
#

yeah which is why i remarked about breakpoints

#

which is the perfect opportunity for the other side to present the breakpoints

#

e.g., how does riposte's probablistic breakpoints (& accounting for the crit chance) compare to precog's breakpoints?

hollow current
#

gimmie a sec im just gonna test out the dd rpisote thingy

thorn cedar
#

i got yer breakpoints right here

wind spruce
hollow current
wind spruce
#

But yeah, most psyker builds run base 12.5% crit so will have roughly 1/3 crit chance with riposte up

wind spruce
spice veldt
#

e.g., if I have some peril w/ warp rider (quick maffs tells me i need 11.8% peril but i'll need more if i'm not at full 15 dd), a crit + non-crit hits a crusher twoshot

#

though i run a non-carapace ds4

wind spruce
#

What are you running

#

Maniac unyielding?

spice veldt
#

crit chance + unyielding cuz y not

#

not optimal but i like crit noises

wind spruce
#

Crit is nice

spice veldt
#

and i figured, i'm running trauma all the time anyways, so i'm not particularly concerned about cara enemies anyways

#

and my trauma blast will very likely push them down to the two-shot crit/non-crit bp

wind spruce
#

Yeah, and DD gives you mutant oneshots at full stacks anyway iirc

spice veldt
#

i need uncanny stacked and maybe some peril w/ warp rider for that but yeah it's relatively consistent

thorn cedar
#

my weapon perks only exist to boost the soulblaze damage of my blaze trauma

spice veldt
#

or i make it easier if i throw an assail shard at the mutie

#

psyker makes it easy to not worry about breakpoints

wind spruce
#

Yeah most of the time you can soften up with an lmb or whatever

wind spruce
spice veldt
#

really good swap timings

#

god bless this class

wind spruce
#

That too

#

Ah you're right it's only 3400 on mutant WS with 15 DD (no other buffs)

sacred crane
#

maybe?

#

its from melk

hollow current
#

ran out of memory

#

thanks game

hearty oak
#

Everytime

split lance
#

how make bette r

ornate hamlet
#

god zamn thats a good roll

split lance
#

do i make it flak and maniacs?

ornate hamlet
#

i'll let someone more knowledgeable than me answer

split lance
#

idk what a good blaze is suppsoed to look like lol

bold cape
#

replace flurry with nexus and elites with crit imo

split lance
ornate hamlet
#

chat is this real

true lake
#

slaughterer and uncanny, interesting

split lance
#

is this the only one for crit?

#

on trauma

true lake
#

yeah thats extra crit rate

ornate hamlet
true lake
#

idk really, im deimos user

ornate hamlet
#

i still have so much cash and plasteel i could start rolling trauma staff and give that a go

bold cape
ornate hamlet
#

or u can do not blaze build if u like

split lance
#

i have blown mysself up 4 times this missionj

ornate hamlet
#

just edge harder bro

bold cape
#

get good at edging trauma and always shooting at >80% peril and let the crits flow

split lance
#

ima try and make a better rending

ornate hamlet
#

ngl probably would have blown myself to death half a million times if it weren't for the unchained ult

split lance
#

i have a rending with like 60% dmg and i love it

bold cape
#

waiting for the update to try and get a trauma

#

aint worth it

ornate hamlet
#

what? you dont hear the slots calling to you?

bold cape
#

fortunately ive lost my taste for gambling after rolling for ogryn weapons

ornate hamlet
#

fortunately for my wallet and sanity i do not care about ogryn and vet at all

bold cape
#

i play every class pretty evenly

ornate hamlet
#

zealot is my highest but psyker is catching up

#

i love casting spells 🤑🤑🤑

split lance
#

ive died 2x

magic kayak
split lance
#

AINT NO WAY IJUST ROLLED THIS

#

THIS IS STRAIGHT OUTTA HADRON

magic kayak
#

damn lol

#

meanwhile I can't even get blazing spirit at all

split lance
#

ive gotten it 2 rolles in a row

#

rols

#

roll s

#

rolls

#

there we go

bold cape
#

man

lethal lagoon
split lance
#

i was tryna use it for rending but ig this is better than my current blaze

#

lmao

bold cape
#

darktide casino is reminding me of when i played genshin

lethal lagoon
#

(I definitely didn't fall into a mobile game and only got pulled out because my bank called me and confirming the charges was the most embarassng moment of my life so I never played one ever again)

bold cape
#

its like the same feeling
dumping dozens of hours of grinded mats into an rng casino and getting nothing out of it while watching people get it instantly or nearly for free

lethal lagoon
bold cape
#

except darktide you cant pour money into it to solve it

lethal lagoon
#

Darktide answered the question of if gacha would be fun without pay-to-win

bold cape
#

the people who say "but you can play it for free" are on mega copium
since 95% of the content is in the characters and it costs like $20k for a maxed team in a fucking mobile game lmao

upper sun
#

its a shooter with gotcha elements slapped on because some 90 year old boomer doesnt think the gameplay is enough of a hook

lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

gottya

bold cape
#

yep
somehow ive gotten into arguments in this server with people who thought the crafting system was a good thing and shouldnt be changed cause it boosts player retention gsleepy

#

as if 95% of people dont stick with this game purely for the gameplay loop

upper sun
#

ive been using the same gear for like 400-500 hours

lethal lagoon
#

"Boosts player retention"

#

But what kind of players

upper sun
#

imagine telling a player that they need 700 hours to have 5 builds

#

no one is gonna stick around

bold cape
#

i have 200 hours and still the only great character i have is psyker

bold cape
#

nah warframe is way better

upper sun
#

i tried warframe it sucks

lethal lagoon
#

My standards are fairly low, so I have plenty of builds, other than thammer which I could never get.

split lance
lethal lagoon
#

well low for a meta sweatlord, not an average player

upper sun
#

its just 40k plasteel for thrust and and ~1mil for hammers

split lance
#

iirc i still hold a couple wr for that game

#

i hate warframe

upper sun
#

yes

lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

get gud

lethal lagoon
#

No.

upper sun
#

ill post my hammer

lethal lagoon
#

ill post your face

upper sun
#

go ahead

sacred crane
#

im realizing...psyker is the only class with no blunt melee

bold cape
upper sun
#

none of my friends phones detect my face

sacred crane
#

LETS GET A FORCE HAMMER

sacred crane
#

FATSHARK MAKE IT HAPPEN

upper sun
#

none of my socials have a picture

lethal lagoon
#

🙂

lethal lagoon
split lance
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
#

Wait wtf, there's social accounts with my name, I thought I was unique.

split lance
#

both rolled in last 20ish min

bold cape
#

shit like that makes me not want to play lmao

upper sun
#

@lethal lagoon you know you want one

lethal lagoon
#

I need a new username, send help

bold cape
#

i just use my name cause im fuckin boring and cant come up with usernames

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
#

I respect the autonomy of boss monsters.

#

I will not deny them their 30+ seconds of fame with the swing of a hammer

upper sun
#

99% of zealots stop before they get a sick hammer

lethal lagoon
#

I feel like that's really untrue

#

Most zealots probably have a hammer

upper sun
#

i have legit seen only a handful of zealots with a thrust hammer

bold cape
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
bold cape
upper sun
lethal lagoon
#

Stop staring

bold cape
#

atlasrizz

lethal lagoon
#

I don't think I can live up to that name.

bold cape
#

im sure you can

lethal lagoon
bold cape
#

i bet you made clad blush

lethal lagoon
bold cape
#

isnt that right @upper sun

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, isn't that right.

upper sun
#

she was wrong

bold cape
#

size went somewhere else

upper sun
#

i did not

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, his left arm is longer than his right.

bold cape
#

thats obviously what i meant

lethal lagoon
#

I mean there's like a 50% chance that's true.

bold cape
#

you know whats so nice
seeing a fun build online
loading up drg
making the build for free
and being able to play it

lethal lagoon
#

But how can you have fun without grinding for at least 8 hours first

bold cape
#

8? more like 20

#

if you're lucky

lethal lagoon
upper sun
#

bruh they need to fix mutie fire interactions

lethal lagoon
#

I'm cool with muties maxing out their cooking skills

bold cape
#

ive played so much auric damnation with the mod that lets you see items far away
so i get like all mats in a mission
so many mats
all were spent
so very little was gained

upper sun
#

im not staregryn

lethal lagoon
#

That's rude

#

They are just maxxing out their life skills for the extra bonues

#

Heretics need to grind too

upper sun
#

they need to be ground

lethal lagoon
#

Motherfucker forgot how fire works

ashen edge
#

How do you guys use the brain rupture in higher difficulty? I just feels like I have no time to charge up as my team get swarmed by enemy elite.

ornate hamlet
#

few solutions

#
  1. only use it when u have the time and space to do so
  2. if ur using EP mainly use it when you have stacks
  3. use it after your ult
#

also make your own space, don't rely on others to make it for you

bold cape
#

i dont like bb in general, but if i did use it id use it with the +cast speed node and empowered psionics

frail sand
ornate hamlet
#

holy shit hi mem

frail sand
#

hi

hardy raft
frail sand
#

i do play darktide too so

hardy raft
#

wee.

ornate hamlet
#

whats ur opinion on haz5+

hardy raft
#

so what was the new update

#

i kinda quit DRG after my customization broke

frail sand
#

i like auric more than 5+

bold cape
#

i like more enemies in 5+

hardy raft
#

so whats a 5+

bold cape
#

new ocs are great

ornate hamlet
#

i like dorktide more than drg in general

hardy raft
#

might get back then

bold cape
#

minigun one is my favorite probably
coolant allowing you to just fire endlessly is 10/10

ornate hamlet
#

coolantpilled ventmaxxer

frail sand
#

i want some more content for darktide though

#

waiting for darktide content be like

ornate hamlet
#

auric+ coming in half a year dw

ornate hamlet
#

extreme intensity monstrous shock troop gauntlet

hardy raft
bold cape
#

oops all daemonhosts

hardy raft
#

lmfao

ornate hamlet
#

dclaw solos

bold cape
#

dclaw ftw

hardy raft
#

i like mk7 more now

#

than the mk4

frail sand
#

idk what's up with darktide in recent patches but i've got silent specials again

frail sand
#

there was a patch where maulers and frens became actually audible, but that regressed for me

hardy raft
#

alongside special spawn spawning extra

ornate hamlet
#

i just want to not get randomly dc'd

frail sand
#

now i have silent maulers and crushers again

#

i also got "match has been cancelled bc unexpected error" quite a few times

#

but the match isnt actually cancelled

#

it keeps going

ornate hamlet
#

have u ever been dc'd and get error 2001, 2006 or 2014

hardy raft
#

so

frail sand
#

of course

hardy raft
#

when will we get a ogryn shield variant that has a parry

frail sand
#

those i dont even mention because that's usual business

bold cape
#

the game could be twice as unstable, as long as it didn’t have rng it’d be 10/10 from me

ornate hamlet
#

half of me is like welp atleast its not my internet being shit but the other half of me almost wants it to be my internet so everyone else gets to have fun still

frail sand
ornate hamlet
#

honestly idec about the crafting anymore i just want stable connection

frail sand
#

because i wasted enough plasteel already so im already accumulating resources

hardy raft
bold cape
#

im never gonna be able to stick with the game long enough to be like that
at this rate getting new builds is a fucking nightmare

ornate hamlet
#

ive gotten quite lucky with oranges and i only care about 2 classes so the crafting is w/e to me now

frail sand
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i have 1280 hours in darktide, it's probably only around like 800 hours when i feel not dragged down by the RNG (because got lucky enough for the stuff i care about)

ornate hamlet
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i wanna find another game to play but i keep crawling back to dt

hardy raft
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we winning boys

bold cape
ornate hamlet
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i would play verm instead if anyone in my region actually played cata

bold cape
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oce sadness

hardy raft
hardy raft
frail sand
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ironically drg has better netcode than darktide, at least in terms of how it feels like

sacred crane
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tf is youtube recommending me

hardy raft
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unironically drg has better modding support