psyker-class

[rigid sky]

Mostly you don't use it on Deimos

[ornate hamlet]

i use illussy way more than void i've found

[plucky flax]

I use rampage ds4 on void and gun build.

[rigid sky]

Obscurus needs it because it is shit

[upper sun]

its kinda worse tho because you do the full animation no matter what some chain weapons let go if you kill the target sooner because their damage is in ticks

[ornate hamlet]

its that residual zealot energy within me

[rigid sky]

Deimos L1 H2 does the trick better

[rigid sky]

But most of the power on a chain weapon is the final "rip" tick

You can cancel early for safety

[upper sun]

the final one is the biggest yes

[rigid sky]

But you lose the majority of the damage

[upper sun]

yeah

at least its not like deimos where the contact is 75 damage and the final tick is 1500

[weary crane]

Well I had like an hour game once, I lost count on how many times I revved, and then I was literally 1 step from the end elevator and got jumped by a hound

[upper sun]

thats kinda weird many weapons have very different stamina tax

[rigid sky]

Finally, we have found the updog

[upper sun]

@weary crane havent played auric in almost a week this was the first game i tried

[upper sun]

uhhhh whos steve jobs

[rigid sky]

Ligma balls

[hearty oak]

I dont even remember the last time i played non-auric mission.

[hardy raft]

eh similar for chainswords

chain weapons can now channeling cancel with dodges now

[upper sun]

ive been playing marvels midnight suns like a smooth brain xcom baby

[hardy raft]

which is why it's possible to not get the final damage

[hearty oak]

I still need to play terror from the deep. But it woops me every time

[rigid sky]

Z axis crysalids go brrrrrr

[hearty oak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/937433410182467645/1062215993071505458/doge_eyes20a2.gif

Me taking an aimed shot and missing

[wind spruce]

Beautiful

[bold cape]

loner..

[wind spruce]

Is a good aura

[bold cape]

should not be in the game
but thats just me

[rigid sky]

Loner played responsibly is fine

Shitters who use loner to speedrun and abandon their team are shit and maybe the aura can be redesigned to not enable this

but apart from that it's fine (and in any case it can be a travel node; auras are not super impactful anyway)

[bold cape]

maybe it should have a timer of sorts

[rigid sky]

Give it a lingering effect for a decent duration of time (like a minute)

but make it both ways

[bold cape]

so its only active for a number of seconds out of coherency
or it acts like a battery, so you have to spend time in coherency to gain stacks to spend outside of it

[rigid sky]

so it benefits the team too

[ornate hamlet]

holy shit

?????

[rigid sky]

Dingdingdingdingding

Free perk swaps

[ornate hamlet]

i think

[rigid sky]

Literal ideal

[ornate hamlet]

i think i have to go disrupt destiny now or i'd commiting some sort of heinous sin

[rigid sky]

Warp Nexus 3 is fine too

[rigid sky]

Definitely yes lmao

Enjoy your crusher oneshots

[ornate hamlet]

yessir

[hearty oak]

Going DD is a heinous act with surge voidstrike

[ornate hamlet]

do i even need full charges

[hearty oak]

The equivalent of going plasma on vet

[hearty oak]

For ogryn and bosses, yeah

[ornate hamlet]

oki

[sacred crane]

You can be me and use warp siphon because warp siphon is good as well

[hearty oak]

Otherwise, about 75% is all you need and aim at head level

[ornate hamlet]

i have warp siphon rn

[sacred crane]

[hearty oak]

Unless you're going for overkill damage

[sacred crane]

Imo, I just prefer warp siphon because DD makes me worry more about losing stacks

[ornate hamlet]

i have never not used brainburst but wouldnt it be not that useful now

[rigid sky]

Assail DD Shriek is the way to go

Or assail DD shield I guess

[hearty oak]

You aren't losing stacks when you're demolishing the map

[rigid sky]

You don't lose stacks with new DD

[ornate hamlet]

shriek for more staff uptime methinks

[rigid sky]

Take lingering influence

[hardy raft]

just make it count 2 constantly

so like 4 loner zealot have 8 coherency

[rigid sky]

You have 15 stacks basically permanently

[hardy raft]

suddenly broken

[ornate hamlet]

do i take the assail upgrades

[rigid sky]

When you go through an airlock you might drop to 12 stacks if it takes you a moment to find a blue boi

[hardy raft]

new DD is warp syphon stacks

[rigid sky]

10s per stack drop

[hardy raft]

also without assail upgrade its ass

[ornate hamlet]

ok

[sacred crane]

Ik but like it makes me focus more on specific enemies instead of like doing my own thing and I just wanna kill what I wanna kill

[hearty oak]

Til you get blown off the map cause your team unanimously voted for your death by barrel

[rigid sky]

So 30s to undo a single weakspot kill

[rigid sky]

Fine, once I am ressed I'll just build it again in about a minute lmao

Old DD was strong as hell but somewhat risky

New DD is just as strong but not risky at all

[sacred crane]

Also I just prefer warp siphon cuz more ability cooldown + still having damage, I only use DD for my void and gun builf

[ornate hamlet]

is lingerin or perfect better

[hearty oak]

Lingering

[hardy raft]

if you go for the other talent

[rigid sky]

But again take lingering influence unless you have already tried with it and are SURE you don't need it

[hardy raft]

its definitely risky

12 second to lose a wp stavck

[rigid sky]

Even I'm not that masochistic

[hardy raft]

but like the other option is too fucking good

[rigid sky]

And you one shot Crushers already with 15 stacks

Why would I want another 10

[hearty oak]

Perfect is too easy to lose stacks in downtime or you have others who horde clear just as easily as you do

[rigid sky]

It won't stop it from being shit vs bosses

[hardy raft]

ds4?

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike

[hardy raft]

ah

[rigid sky]

DS4 takes 2

[hardy raft]

thats fun

[insert surge blessing is objectively bad here]

[sacred crane]

I prefer the 24% damage from siphon but that is just me DD is good as well

[rigid sky]

Warp Siphon isn't about the damage anyway

It's about the cdr

[hearty oak]

DD allows you dab on crusher packs

[rigid sky]

DD weakspot and crit bonuses on top of the flat damage bonus is too good

[hardy raft]

fuyuuuuuug

worth my buckroo

[ornate hamlet]

anything i need to change?

[rigid sky]

Also WS is the most expensive keystone in the game

[sacred crane]

I use siphon on my shriek builds (aka trauma, purg and surge), dd on bubble and gun (scriers and void)

[rigid sky]

Do not take Shriek without creeping flames

Whatever you do

It needs it

[hardy raft]

still have zero idea why is it that exepnsive

[rigid sky]

Drop the left leg shit

[hearty oak]

30% isn't needed

[rigid sky]

Drop the middle node in DD

The peril reduction garbage

[hardy raft]

tried on smite and its not bad but you really dont need it

[hearty oak]

no perilous cumbustion

[sacred crane]

The quick shards arent needed, you can use that point on something like battle meditation or evasion

[wind spruce]

Because it's extremely powerful

[rigid sky]

I take it deliberately only for my Surge smite EP build

[hardy raft]

i cant seem to use surge on any EP build tbh

[ornate hamlet]

have 3 points to spare now what do i need

[rigid sky]

Battle meditation is also bad

[hardy raft]

feels like im using too much peril for something that revolver can do

[rigid sky]

Perilous combustion is good

[wind spruce]

Mettle

[hardy raft]

people are divided about it really

[sacred crane]

Its shocking that the creeping flames is able to kill a poxwalker hordes and the base damage cant

[ornate hamlet]

ihave mettle

[rigid sky]

For voidstrike I wouldn't take it

[hardy raft]

yea

i wouldnt either

[rigid sky]

It's good on EP smite builds and on SG builds only really

[hardy raft]

nvm i took one

idk why

[sacred crane]

Battle medition feels like a must on gunker

[marble crater]

BM bad

[hardy raft]

switching over to mettle like a sane human being

[hardy raft]

its fine tbh

[hearty oak]

I'd take smite instead of assail just for psykinetic aura. Even more cdr since your dps will be huge

[rigid sky]

They already have mettle

[rigid sky]

It's a decent option yeah

[hardy raft]

i should adjust my build jesus what a mess this is

[sacred crane]

Honestly I hate smite because I feel I never have to use it unless Im using surge

[rigid sky]

I prefer assail for more ease in killing laterally moving blue bois

Plus it synergises with DD, smote doesn't

But psych aura is gud

[hearty oak]

If it reaches the dd it freezes your stacks

[hardy raft]

too bad brainburst is overkill

on voidstrike

or its just used as a dump node

which smite is better at

[sacred crane]

I use assail on voidstrike to help with DD

[ornate hamlet]

oh yeah so what perks?

[hardy raft]

changed me tree what do i use now

[sacred crane]

Carapace/Flak/Maniac

[hardy raft]

mine is kinda bad

[sacred crane]

Carapace to help surge with crushers
Flak for general use
Maniac for specialists and ragers

[sacred crane]

The only thing bad is the unyielding damage, because staffs naturally are weak against bosses

[hardy raft]

ogryn time

but yea

[rigid sky]

Can you spare a point for quietitude?

[sacred crane]

The elite damage is kinda meh but not the worse because ragers and gunners

[rigid sky]

It's a must imo

[hardy raft]

1 exact left

[rigid sky]

Boom

Quietitude is a must for all builds

[sacred crane]

Quietitude is free toughness for just using warp attackd

[hardy raft]

again

the other one is good

but not good as the one on the left

[rigid sky]

Warp replenishment is also underrated but worse than quietitude

It's a luxury node

[hearty oak]

My build for the maelstroms with 3 points for literally anything. Smite just cause if theres a billion melee enemies, you can hold them for a second for your team.

[sacred crane]

The other one is more for gunker

[rigid sky]

Mettle perfect timing are required imo

[hearty oak]

I just dont feel it doesnt crit enough to call for them or im not hitting any breakpoints unless its for the toughness and speed

[rigid sky]

Toughness mainly

also if there are a million melee enemies they gettin illisi'd lmao

or if they're in a line they get the void

[hearty oak]

yeah but with wildfire, you get dps bragging rights

[rigid sky]

you didn't take wildfire

[hearty oak]

This is with 3 points extra

[rigid sky]

creeping flames and PC are the real power soulblaze talents

[hearty oak]

I didnt take it cause you could put them anywhere

[rigid sky]

wildfire is a bonus

but eh you could I guess

I wouldn't

[sacred crane]

Wildfirs is kinda meh in my opinion, even on purge builds, although perilous is decent

[rigid sky]

Imo purgatus is exactly the wrong soulblaze build design to work with wildfire because of all of its weird bits

like taking 3s after a target dies to check to spread

and purgatus being a continual cone

I like wildfire for intermittent soulblaze sources

so I take it on my blaze trauma

it's good for the shriek and PC parts though

[hearty oak]

I take wildfire on purg just cause

Spread the heat

[rigid sky]

My purgatus is warp siphon

I don't have the points to spare for anything lmao

I can't even take kinetic deflection

and that makes me so sad

[hearty oak]

I wish i was better at 3d modeling. I would recreate dagothwave with a psyker

[sacred crane]

PSYKER FURSUIT

[hearty oak]

🎵 Ooh🎵

🎵 Ooh🎵

[sacred crane]

The trapper is deeEe-aAAAdd

[rigid sky]

I love seers

I would play one but I love loner more

but they're my #1 and #2 voicepacks across all of the characters

[ornate hamlet]

i am not finding many blue highlighted enemies

[hardy raft]

my smite cant as well

[hearty oak]

You have to look in the direction of a horde of enemies.

[ornate hamlet]

is there any chance its based on vision cos im in power disruption rn

[hearty oak]

Never taking warp siphon. Brain busting bulwarks for the team will never get old

[hardy raft]

shoutout to idiots who said smite is bad so EP smite is megabuffed

[hearty oak]

Also, tried rupture on vent. I cant even tell a difference aside from the instant kills on trash

[hearty oak]

Its omega bad. dont tell them that

[hardy raft]

tanner my beloved

[hearty oak]

Honestly, i dont even think battle meditation is needed for purge. Ive debated on taking it off just for psychic leeching

[hardy raft]

..yknowwhat ds4 isnt evben bad at hordeclear

[rigid sky]

I prefer not having it. I run shriek on my purgatus and it's already hard enough to spike up to 84% when you actually want to

[rigid sky]

It isn't if you have DD lmao

Every time I wade into melee with it and DD/SG up it triggers the praise voicelines

[hardy raft]

without dd

i think its

just that i go ham

on the melee aspect

[rigid sky]

I feel like it'd take 2 hits without either WS or DD buffing damage

but I might be wrong

[hardy raft]

its 2 hits

and its shred so

its forced

[rigid sky]

DD makes it take one

I think

[hardy raft]

but its good if you arent rushing

[rigid sky]

literally twice as fast to clear like that

the 2-to-1 breakpoint is the biggest

although crit rate covers part of that

[hardy raft]

DS4 still has abysmal hordeclear compared to illisi

but if you go about it defensively

it doesnt matter

not jump in like a zealot that is

i jump in like a zealot

[rigid sky]

With DD/SG you totally can zealot mode with it though

it's a good specialised tool of a melee weapon without those

with them its weaknesses go up enough that it can be considered to be a generalist weapon

but its strengths also go up so it's now an elite killer with no drawbacks on horde clear

honestly with those it might as well be an illisi

which is why I stopped taking illisi on my gunker

[hardy raft]

nope

i meant as zealot mode as in facetank the enemy

ds4 really cant take that from my experience

[inland magnet]

so I really like the Illisi, handles crowds exceptionally well. But even with the force charge and heavy attack, this weapon will not put down crushers or bulwarks in the few instances where I was left to deal with 2-3 alone. Am I building this wrong or what?

[hardy raft]

so does illisi for a while but eh

[rigid sky]

Your dodges are crazy on it

[hardy raft]

true

[rigid sky]

if you assail every couple of swings you'll be gaining toughness back very fast too

so you can take exactly one hit every couple of seconds

you have shittons of stamina for pushing with

[hardy raft]

for crushers you really need the uncanny strike

for bulwakrs just PA them(auto-opens them up cause idk balancing)

and gun their heads

[rigid sky]

You can play like a good zealot but you can't get away with playing like a bad zealot lol

[hardy raft]

fair enough i do rely too much on revanant

now THATs a sass

and my game crashed

[inland magnet]

Any news on the Force Great Sword?

[marble crater]

There is none for now and the weapons we get are also not it

People will be waiting for a while longer

[hardy raft]

i hope it comes with power greatsword in the next patch

but knowing fatshark, next year

[brittle cargo]

Better to dump warp resistance or quell speed?

[upper galleon]

Better dump warp resistance

[hardy raft]

i just keep everything on 70

i'd pick the right one since if you go for siphon

you get a +30% quellspeed there so it nullifies that somewhat

[sacred crane]

30k boss damage with pure ds4 heavy

[radiant frigate]

ideally you will want slaughterer + uncanny strike

bulwarks and crushers will still be somewhat problematic however

[potent echo]

Bulwarks get owned by push attack

[radiant frigate]

recommend using staff to open them up

[marble crater]

Play with the left one for sure

[karmic finch]

Defo not, left is better.

More peril generated is more toughness gained, it's better to dump peril resist compared to quell speed for that reason

[hardy raft]

i'd rather pick more cast per quell so right for me

[karmic finch]

If you do run with venting shriek you can also use the peril to burn people, so being able to charge up quickly is useful, but that's pretty build dependant

[karmic finch]

Learn to vent better, you should be hugging the top 30ish % either way

[tacit cargo]

idk i disagree honestly. More peril generated means less time dps-ing and quell speed really isnt that much of an impact in compariosn

[karmic finch]

Especially on a build using warp nexus

[hardy raft]

even with nexus i go for siphon and then do thay tbh

[tacit cargo]

agree on that tho

[hardy raft]

but yea

if you use the ult you get to blast twice before exploding anyway

[tacit cargo]

the diference between 80% quell speed and like 50% inst that big of a deal

[karmic finch]

What matters is not "how many shots does 100% peril get me" it's "how many shots does X ticks of quell get me"

And that barely changes when you shift from warp res to quell speed

[marble crater]

Warp resistance is not that important, I would be surprised if that was an extra cast or two from 0 to 100 peril

[karmic finch]

You just quell more in the ticks of quell you do, then make more peril in the shots afterward

It's not more time spent quelling

You shouldn't be quelling to 0

[tacit cargo]

thats correct

[hardy raft]

with full siphon buffs i can get full charge trauma per blast from like 22% to 11% p sure

[upper galleon]

Edging is key

[marble crater]

You have the siphon buffs for both staves, so you need to compare just the staves.

[tacit cargo]

honestly havent thought about it like that

[hardy raft]

i guess in a way yea

[analog agate]

Same amount of casts between an 80% res and 55% res (from my staves)

[karmic finch]

Woah there, it's a huge difference

You can see it in the numbers, the swing goes up to +42% from -33 or something, now that's on 100% base so that's 67 up to 142

[analog agate]

It is, like, a 6% peril difference

[karmic finch]

With 70% quell speed on the staff, and the 30% node from tree, it takes 8 ticks to go to 0% from full.

With 80 it takes 7.

With 60 it takes just over 9.

[hardy raft]

hm i maybe just never noticed cause i keep everything on 70s

[karmic finch]

~10.5 per tick at 60
~12.5 per tick at 70
~14.3 per tick at 80

[hardy raft]

79->63 gives like 1.5 peril

so gues quellspeed is better

[analog agate]

Yep. Warp res and then dmg would be dump stat for blaze trauma

[hardy raft]

nvm the secondary action

also gets decreased by 1

that seems huge

thats 2% at the least

and since the charge take 1.3 second at best

should be about 3%

not really that much

you'd decrease it with the siphon

so i guess you can still dump on it

without it you're pretty boned it seems

which is i never ult unless i really really have to

[ornate hamlet]

decided i dont rly like DD and wanna go back to BB and warp syphon, to enjoy my frontliner battle wizard playstyle more

[hardy raft]

idk how people use siphon and be cool with using ults quick af

[analog agate]

Yeah, I don’t really like DD. Not a fan of chasing blue guys instead of priority targets

[wind spruce]

A front liner battle wizard wants DD for the melee damage

[marble crater]

Because soulblaze from shriek spamming is OP

[hardy raft]

and then bam 22% per cast

[ornate hamlet]

i actually could not get any more than a few stacks

[hardy raft]

idk really

[wind spruce]

If you're chasing blue guys you're playing it wrong

[bold cape]

i like dd, it’s one blue guy for 30 seconds of stacks
so it’s not really that big of an issue
it’s almost passive at that point

[analog agate]

Yeah, I actually ult quite a bit as blaze trauma. Flaming shriek is godly

[marble crater]

And then you killed a bunch of elites and have your charges back

[hardy raft]

wasnt ever reliable that much to risk it imho from my testing

[analog agate]

Some of it is, atm, with the glitch I have no clue what stacks I am at. Ever

[hardy raft]

especially when teammates liketo snatch them away

and then you're on a merry hell go around till you get the full buff

[marble crater]

If you don't plan to spam your ability you should maybe not pick WS and use one of the other keystones instead, the cooldown reduction is a big reason for them being so good

[wind spruce]

This really isn't a big issue

A lot of the time you'll just go from 0 to almost 15 stacks in a few seconds from killing a pack of bruisers, no effort required

[marble crater]

You will never not find enough elites to kill in auric

[wind spruce]

(And without even noticing them get highlighted)

[karmic finch]

If you quell every 2 shots for instance

You get the charge peril twice, and the cast peril once (you only need to release it under 100% the second time).

If you do 2 ticks of quell on the 65 you probably drop to 78% peril.

On 80 quell speed you would be on 71%

[marble crater]

Yeah it's nice, but spamming shriek and just quelling for a bit longer every once in a while is even nicer, imo

[bold cape]

yeah pretty much this
im at 15 stacks pretty much the whole game without even focusing on the highlighted enemies
if i notice im dropping ill headshot one, boom 3 stacks

[hardy raft]

i dont like venting for 2 seconds and then casting once and going back to quelling

thats my gist of it tbh

ill try it again with the shriek i guess been using dome for last ditch hideout

[wind spruce]

Yup. Occasionally there'll be periods where the stacks do drop off... and then there's another bruiser or shooter pack

[ornate hamlet]

does power disruption reduce the number of highlighted enemies cos i legit only see like 1 blue guy every 30 seconds

[karmic finch]

You vent for 2 ticks, not 2 seconds, it's like a half second commitment if that

Like what are you doing with your venting?

Just tap it

[hardy raft]

felt like 2 seconds to me i guess

[wind spruce]

Complaining about maintaining DD when you're running void and shriek is just bananas

[hardy raft]

what DD

oh nvm

[wind spruce]

Do people realise that soulblaze ticks refresh DD, and if your teammate kills the blue man after you've damaged it you get a stack

[hardy raft]

that was different convo sory

[marble crater]

And using shriek also gives you peril reduction for 5 seconds, 1% for every enemy hit, so you even keep your "charges" for a bit while you kill things

[hardy raft]

this never gets explained and and confused the hell out of me

[hardy raft]

iull try it again with it then

[analog agate]

I… didn’t realize that

[hardy raft]

before it was just vent cast vent

[marble crater]

Unlucky

[hardy raft]

much prefer vent cast cast vent

[ornate hamlet]

is it unlucky or is that just a gimmick of that condition

[bold cape]

dd is pretty much mandatory for surge void
as in it has infinitely more synergy than the other keystones

[wind spruce]

• damaging blue man refreshes dd (including ticks of soulblaze)
• headshot kills grant three stacks
• all regular kills INCLUDING assists grant one stack

That's all there is to it

[hardy raft]

only marks specific enemies where it only marks the only top ones from hordes p sure

[upper sun]

wait

[hardy raft]

like bruisers n shooters n stuff

[upper sun]

assists on DD give a stack?

[hardy raft]

so if you get a only poxwalker

[hardy raft]

yeah

[upper sun]

damn

[hardy raft]

learned that when i thought wp kills give 4(1+3)

[marble crater]

I don't know really, I only played that with DD a few times, but I didn't notice a difference. I also had long breaks of blue boys in normal missions

[karmic finch]

I don't think the peril reduction per warp charge is a good node.

You trade toughness regen (cycling peril gives toughness) for the node.

And the other node gives toughness regen.

So you lose out on toughness twice by taking that node!

Also the toughness regen stacks with itself so if you fight a pack of elites you get buckets back.

[upper sun]

im gonna be a lot less salty about people killing my blue people

[jovial juniper]

Eh, you could've hit it on the head

[marble crater]

There should be a word for that

[hardy raft]

psyker has tons of toughness nodes from the start, also it doesnt state it stacks?

it just says it resets the timer to 5 seconds

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/3PXVem

Watch this

[hardy raft]

this never gets explained by

the game and i think

that contributes to the bad rep of DD

[upper sun]

🤔 are you sure the stacks arent bugged there

[hardy raft]

"oh its shit if others kill my target"

assists work thankfully so

[karmic finch]

More toughness is more good

[wind spruce]

What do you mean? I don't get the rager kills but they give me stacks

[karmic finch]

And not sure if I'm thinking of the vet node for stacking but it's more toughness regardless

Peril resistance is a trap

[ornate hamlet]

how r u supposed to keep dd stacks up when u lose them so fast

[hardy raft]

well might run this to complete the saving myself from exploding by screeching

[karmic finch]

You play spicy and you like it

[hardy raft]

use the 10 second one

[wind spruce]

Are you taking the increased duration node?

[hardy raft]

the other one is just

absolute

ham

[upper sun]

if assists gave stacks you should have at least 3 the blue hue switches between all 3 ragers when they die

[hardy raft]

imho no

[bold cape]

10 second node + 3x stack on weakspot = 30 seconds worth of stacks on a single kill

[hardy raft]

especailly something that relies to keep casting as a CC method

trauma and something like surge definitely benefits from this

[wind spruce]

I have 6 at the end of the video? Three from the rager I headshot and then three more from the ones Voice and the bot kill

[jovial juniper]

I started noticing the assists because I run Blaze Shriek and sometimes I get stacks of DD, one stack of soulblaze doesn't kill, too bad the UI is bugging

[hardy raft]

ui bugging and not displaying for 15 mins into the game is ass

[upper sun]

shit i was looking at the default buff bar 😭

[wind spruce]

Ohhh hahha

[karmic finch]

Why not?

[bold cape]

i dont think trauma peril gen matters cause you want to cast it at 80+ anyway for warp nexus

[karmic finch]

Venting is easy, moving while venting is easy, tap venting barely slows down your casts

[bold cape]

so you’re always quelling/edging between casts

[karmic finch]

My surge build hits peril cap every cast if I full charge it, and every two of I use minimum charge (to kill chaff)

So yes, I will quell every time

[hardy raft]

vent once for 2 cast or vent once for once in my books tbh

[wind spruce]

Holy shit

The coveted red robe is back siblings

You can now all look like yours truly

[ornate hamlet]

wait i dont fucking understand, the game i played earlier i genuinely saw one blue guy every 30 seconds but now when i play i see 3 in 10 seconds what could have caused this??

[upper sun]

mid mid mid gold but has shitty camo paint on the shoulder plates

[bold cape]

luck

[hearty oak]

♻️

[ornate hamlet]

theres no way

[wind spruce]

Yes, and?

[ornate hamlet]

that i got that unlucky

[karmic finch]

surge makes a tonne of peril regardless, so unless you quell a tick more you can't fit in another fully charged attack before hitting cap, even with the peril reduction node

[hardy raft]

oh yeah also the stupid peril noise doesnt help

[hardy raft]

22->11

stop arguing it makes lot of peril

[bold cape]

go into your settings and disable peril fx

[wind spruce]

Sometimes It can seem like it

[hearty oak]

just need more options for the psyker. If they rotated it every week, I wouldn't mind

[sacred crane]

how tf do i make a golden/red work this is hard

[ornate hamlet]

so DD is a dice roll?

[bold cape]

oh yeah i made an outfit with that piece in for the drip lmao

[wind spruce]

Black pants black face mask is how I roll

The double red looks lame

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry, you won't be unlucky as me
The outlines stopped showing, but DD was working

[bold cape]

darktide is a flawless game with no bugs

[hearty oak]

No. Dd is just a quirky keystone that's always like to paint targets one day and then ignores your needs

most of the time it works

[bold cape]

a quirky keystone that i love

[hearty oak]

Then at max stacks, it likes to stop

[ornate hamlet]

so is DD still ideal if im using illusy most of the time

[wind spruce]

Another trick with DD is that brain bursting a blue man gives three stacks

[hearty oak]

Yes

[bold cape]

if you’re using void, yes

[ornate hamlet]

alright i'll play some more games with it and see how i go

[ornate hamlet]

currently yes, up in the air if i wanna use something else

[bold cape]

dd is a must take imo for gunker and voidstrike

[wind spruce]

If you're running void, assail and/or shriek DD is easy to maintain

[hearty oak]

Also targets covered in warp fire can get mixed in the BBQ

So you may miss them

[wind spruce]

If blue man gets tickled by flames you get a stack

[bold cape]

id suggest making a few builds
i have a gunker + a unique build for every staff just for variety so i dont get bored

[ornate hamlet]

is that just with flames or all assists

[hearty oak]

Well it holds it unless they die by it, then yes

[ornate hamlet]

i dont wanna play gunker i need my manamaxxer power fantasy

[hearty oak]

Anything. If you so much as breath on a blue man, it resets the time before you lose a stack

[ornate hamlet]

but i need the kill to get another stack?

[wind spruce]

And assist kills grant a stack

[hearty oak]

Yes

[hardy raft]

anyway trying out the recommendation

[wind spruce]

• damaging blue man refreshes dd (including ticks of soulblaze)
• headshot kills grant three stacks
• all regular kills grant one stack

[ornate hamlet]

oh

massive

[hardy raft]

remembered why i hate this build

my eardrums are busted

[ornate hamlet]

big

[bold cape]

go into your settings
and turn off peril fx
lmao

[hearty oak]

This I wasn't aware of. I'm more so focused on killing, that I just assume I'm somewhere in the 10-15 stack area before I check

[hardy raft]

it helps me

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/3PXVem

[ornate hamlet]

i just turn it way down

so i can still hear it but dont get my ears bled

[karmic finch]

plus the charge percent? like don't misrepresent this?

13.5 at max peril resist, with warp flurry at max that's 9.26 more for a full charge

10.13 for the release

so 19 and a bit peril, per cast, assuming perfect timing.

then the next shot takes another 9 to full charge, and if you hit cap on this cast the cast peril is irrelevant as long as you aren't on 100, so lets call this 10 total.

that's about 30 peril in total, again, assuming perfect timing. you pass by 2 nodes giving -10% in total, so 27

the next point is when running warp charge with shriek, it's that you shouldn't be camping on warp charges, you should shout often, really often, but lets say you are neglecting one of the most powerful parts of your kit just to camp 6 charges, that's 36% less peril gen, for 17.28

[bold cape]

that specific noise triggers my tinnitus for some reason so i have it at 0
and i can just look at the gauge anyways, you get very used to it eventually

[karmic finch]

now if you vent 1 tick you vent 14, so that's not 2 casts, if you vent 2 ticks you get 28, which is 2, hooray!

only, it's also 2 when you don't have peril resist, and you can just let the 2nd one go with slightly less than full charge if it's close

[bold cape]

leave it to math to uncover that a talent with a good sounding effect is actually nowhere near as good as it sounds

[karmic finch]

if you are quelling down more than 2-3 ticks then sure, it will make a bigger differnce to how many shots you can make per quell, but that's also not optimal for one with the warp, or warp rider, or warp nexus

[bold cape]

also i highly suggest the mod perilgauge
you can keep the vanilla peril indicator if you want, but the mod will show you your ACTUAL peril level, because you quell in bursts, not gradually as the game suggests

[wind spruce]

Plus the overall interaction with quietude

[karmic finch]

this is important

[quartz barn]

no usually the effect is good, but poorly implemented because fs can't do % based stuff or rounding properly

i mean look at stam curio

[karmic finch]

that's half my point, the peril you make is toughness when you quell it (and more if you have the point free for warp expenditure), so peril generation reduction nerfs your main toughness engine

[bold cape]

honestly the game kind of does a piss poor job at relaying accurate information to the player and needing to rely on mods to fix it kinda blows

[wind spruce]

Mandatory PSA that stam curios increase the efficiency of kinetic deflection (more stam = less peril generated)

[wind spruce]

Plus the interaction with venting shriek

I'm with you on inner tranq being a trap

[quartz barn]

inner tranq is a relic from vt2 where venting deals dmg

also remember how venting on dt release gave you corruption

[karmic finch]

nerf yourself, and lock yourself out of the better node, for the benefit of slightly better peril management that can more than adequately be covered by venting techniques

[bold cape]

also yeah i just realized you actually want more peril, because that’s where a lot of psyker’s toughness comes from
so not only are you forgoing the toughness warp node but you are also indirectly nerfing yourself

[hardy raft]

unless you try to get exclusive with nexus like you said i dont think its a detrement for most staffs since most staffs carry a CC

[ornate hamlet]

btw does this mean if i decide to use another staff i shouldnot use DD

[hardy raft]

guess the build cant do much on out of range specials

[quartz barn]

its not even just because peril = toughness, you always want warp nexus, aka high peril, for more dmg

[bold cape]

yes dd does not synergize with the other staffs

[karmic finch]

what build is this?

[quartz barn]

its the risk/reward playstyle, and the risk is just low because at base darktide is easy

[hardy raft]

changed my blze trauma to like you said

[quartz barn]

as long as you know how to dodge you can deal with everything

[karmic finch]

this seems to be more a positioning issue than a build issue lol

[quartz barn]

cant tell if you have shout, but you can use that to stagger enemies out of range to close the gap

[karmic finch]

not sure the other method would have helped lol

[quartz barn]

other then that long range is an obvious weak point

[hardy raft]

outside 30m

[quartz barn]

but thats why you have your blitz

[hardy raft]

tried my best and got fucked

[karmic finch]

that's the underground spot right? just spam left till toughness is low and get into cover while venting

[quartz barn]

try runiing diagonally towards them

[karmic finch]

if you don't have cover you're boned

[wind spruce]

Amelioration of an issue doesn't mean the issue isn't a detriment. That's not how logic works.

[quartz barn]

takes a bit of practice but with the right angle gunners cant hit you while you still make farward progress

[karmic finch]

but like, you deserve that for being out of cover vs a butt-tonne of gunners

if you are in range for secondary try to stagger them all by hitting the middle

if an ally had a grenade that would have helped too lol

[wind spruce]

You can run DD for the sake of assail and melee though

[karmic finch]

also trauma range isn't that bad

[wind spruce]

It still gives 15% damage and a crit bonus to trauma and surge

[karmic finch]

think looking at the ceiling would have a decent chance

[wind spruce]

It's just not a standard build

Trauma assail duelling sword with DD & shriek goes hard af

[quartz barn]

honestly looking up with trauma isnt intuitive

• it still has a max range

at one point the indicator just floats up

[bold cape]

ill give that a go once the crafting update comes and fixes my trauma

[karmic finch]

I know, referring to the screenshot above

[quartz barn]

i know, but trauma wouldnt hit that regardless

[karmic finch]

I can stagger at 27m, just tested

[hardy raft]

think they all missed lol

[quartz barn]

thats why i mentioned using shout to give yourself time to close the gap

[wind spruce]

You can just slide to close the gap homies

[hardy raft]

did

[quartz barn]

depends on the gunners attack

[wind spruce]

You gotsta keep dodging

Duck duck dip slide and dodge

[quartz barn]

if he beams into you you'll staggerlock yourself

[hardy raft]

that was the 2nd gunnerswarm right after another and i think i got stuck on the mutie

[quartz barn]

so dodge slide diagonally forward

[wind spruce]

Only if you run out of toughness

[quartz barn]

which lasts 2 sec at most lol

idk if you've been beamed before by those guys but they will instakill you if they actually shoot on you instead of at you

[hardy raft]

trauma has enough stagger and radius as long as its cqc to actively not make anything damage you imho, so goes for the surge CC

[wind spruce]

Well yeah if it's a pack of gunners

[hardy raft]

even stuff like prug has decent cc

[rigid sky]

BTW @ornate hamlet sometimes DD doesn't display how many stacks you have but it will still be working

[wind spruce]

No single gunner should ever do that

[quartz barn]

no just one can do it

[karmic finch]

incredibly input heavy but you can sprint on your duelling sword (to go faster), slide, swap to staff, charge, release (about when you have to stop sliding), then swap back to melee to sprint again

[wind spruce]

Or u dun goofed

Stagger it

[quartz barn]

doesnt happen too often tho

[rigid sky]

It's frustrating but at least it is working lmao

[wind spruce]

Suppress it

Slide sideways

Dodge

[quartz barn]

so basically what i said....

[bold cape]

good to know that’s not my mods but the game itself lmao

[hardy raft]

only staf without a decent cc imho is voidstrike and that has a low enough peril cost that you can just ignore shit and go straight to DD

[rigid sky]

Void's CC is OK, just very targeted

[wind spruce]

So we agree 🙂

[bold cape]

tho my teammates hud randomly disappearing is probably a mod issue

[rigid sky]

The guy you actually hit gets knocked on his ass if he isn't dead

[hardy raft]

it has good stagger yea

i think its worse than surge but thats up for debate

[quartz barn]

the cc they're talking about is the aoe explosion i think

[karmic finch]

against most chaff and even ragers you can manage by shooting the floor.

that doesn't work on maulers and crushers

[quartz barn]

because void has a low range suppress

[hardy raft]

outside ring slight staggers them also(they get out in like 0,1 second) and the middle circle just knocks them out

[wind spruce]

Just put enough hours in that this becomes more natural than breathing

Simples

[quartz barn]

you know, the enemies ducking whenever something next to them gets hit

[hardy raft]

right that

might be this round other taking all the elite kills but never got past 4 warp charges

[karmic finch]

honestly you mostly just use it to engage, the moment you get the first surge shot off you can probably just stick on that

[wind spruce]

@karmic finch and then level up your game by adding a light attacks at the start of every slide

[karmic finch]

on trauma it will be baby explosion, so depends if they actually all get staggered

[ornate hamlet]

is that, what happened, cos like, dude i thought i was insane, i SWEAR i picked the 10 second stacks and there was one counter that disappeared in 2 seconds and i thought wow this ability is dogshit

[karmic finch]

ya, I do that, but was gonna leave that out of the "basic" guide

[bold cape]

yep that’s it lmao

[rigid sky]

The very short buff is the movespeed boost part

[ornate hamlet]

there was no other counter so i was like??

that was my first time using it

so i didnt know

[hardy raft]

rending shockwave relegates itself to CC support staff and its fine as is

[rigid sky]

It's fucked up tbh, the most fun power trippy keystone we have is basically totally hidden

[bold cape]

unlucky lmfao

[hardy raft]

which imho works well with the peril reduction

[ornate hamlet]

clearly a difference in skill

[bold cape]

evidently

[wind spruce]

It also just fucks shit up, and with WC shriek you should still be topping damage most games

[karmic finch]

on surge you get such a good left click that most of the time things are out of range you can just pew pew them down

and the crit boosts work there too lol

but the duelling sword attack slide swap tech is well worth learning

[hardy raft]

either rolled bad or the flames didnt got priority on elite kills

[quartz barn]

isnt it just animation cancelling

[wind spruce]

Surge left click vs void surge left click

Cage match

[karmic finch]

no, the light attack on ds4 lunges you forward very slightly

[hardy raft]

trauma surge left click

[karmic finch]

if you slide within that lunge you keep the extra momentum

[quartz barn]

oh wait on forward slide

[wind spruce]

Animation cancelling occurs, but it's not the main event

[quartz barn]

nvm was thinking about the dodge slide backwards combo

[wind spruce]

I don't know what this means

[wind spruce]

Using DS without DD feels so bad to me now

Wdym it takes four hits to kill a crusher

Lame af

[quartz barn]

aside from the crusher and bulwark you should still onehit everthing tho

but the speed from dd...

[wind spruce]

No

[rigid sky]

Ragers should still take 2 right

[wind spruce]

You need buffs to kill gunners in one hit

And ragers

[rigid sky]

Since they sometimes take 2 even with DD/SG

[quartz barn]

hmm i guess my crit chance procs too often

[rigid sky]

Can't remember what my DS4 has for perks though

[wind spruce]

Yeah even at max DD with 25% maniacs they frequently take ~1900 damage

[quartz barn]

or the heavy special combo deals just enough dmg

[wind spruce]

True power is oneshotting reapers

[rigid sky]

The disrespect it takes to close in on melee on a Reaper without a gap closer

[wind spruce]

God it feels good though

Ranged only maelstrom has been my jam recently, just running full pelt at groups of reapers and gunners

Clocked 200 ranged elite kills with my DS in like 20 minutes

I was running shred/riposte/unyielding and elites. Guaranteed kills on gunners with a weakspot or body crit, and not too difficult to reach reaper one shots

[sacred crane]

yay or nay?

[karmic finch]

Yay

But more because any ciag is good

[sacred crane]

not bad hadron

[karmic finch]

Tbh all the stats on ciag are useful, damage is probably the closest it gets to a dump stat

[hardy raft]

dropped 6 charges since it never reaches that far anyway

seems to be working

[karmic finch]

Swap one blessing for dumdum, your preference really, swap infested for maniac

Is my advice for what to do on it

[wind spruce]

Fair enough

[wind spruce]

It's good. It's like a 3% difference from max damage

And do what googlygoink said, but consider unyielding over maniac if you're needing monstrosity dps or it's monstrous specials

[upper sun]

holy shit i got the exise vault penance in pubs

[karmic finch]

If you don't have dumdum just swap infested off, leave the blessings as they are for now, they are both very good

[rigid sky]

Unyielding feels great on a psyker gun

[sacred crane]

I have tier 2 dumdum, but ima just grind for at least tier 3 dum dum

[rigid sky]

I don't think maniac is necessary either tbh

[wind spruce]

Single clipping monstrous specials feels good

[rigid sky]

Flak unyielding is perfect imo

[wind spruce]

Yeah all the specials die quick af anyway

[karmic finch]

You can always overwrite the dumdum on it if you put on a weaker one

[ornate hamlet]

ok so its great but if im being honest im mainly in it for the movement speed

[rigid sky]

And the crusher oneshots surely

Please tell me you got to do a few of those lol

[karmic finch]

What armor type is the new bomber?

[rigid sky]

UA

[ornate hamlet]

i think so but i wasnt paying attention to how much my team attacked them

[karmic finch]

Wow, a chance to add another infested and they didn't take it

[ornate hamlet]

is 1 stam regen worthit on psyker

[karmic finch]

Any amount is, I take 3

3 stamina regen, 3 cooldown, then miscellaneous on the last slot

Currently running 2 dockets and gunner resist lol

[ornate hamlet]

i would not survive without gunner resist

[karmic finch]

Might try cheesing block cost reduction with my new force sword sometime

[rigid sky]

Triple Gunner resist goes brrrrr

[wind spruce]

No. Just run one stam curio. The regen is pointless, since the magic of psyker spam is that it has such a short delay.

[karmic finch]

More zoom when you need it, and when you need it but don't have it you'll miss it

[ornate hamlet]

what would u take instead, i have gunner and toughness for the other 2

[wind spruce]

Combat ability regen

[karmic finch]

Toughness on a perk is not that worth

[wind spruce]

I just slide tech, it's safer anyway

[hardy raft]

id appriecate more of blaze trauma if it didnt involve heavy rng as a main gimmick really

[marble crater]

Ordo dockets

[hardy raft]

snowballing with it is real good

when it rolls

[wind spruce]

The real truth about curios is they aren't that impactful

(The perks that is)

[karmic finch]

Blocking, pushing, sprinting, doing a mix of all of those and not running out of stamina.

Again, when shit hits the fan that's what you rely on (and dodges/slide dodges)

[hardy raft]

wound +3 ogryn:

[karmic finch]

Build around the points you die in, not the good times

[wind spruce]

I run one stam curio and never have an issue with any of those

[karmic finch]

5% toughness is pretty worthless imo

[hardy raft]

+5% is for minmaxxing

[wind spruce]

I've tried triple stam regen a bunch, and i always end up taking them off one at a time because they aren't impacting anything

[hardy raft]

fun thinking about these ones get the likes while lacerate just exists

[marble crater]

I might try stam regen on vet, because I use Deadshot

[karmic finch]

I run 3 stamina regen and have been experimenting with 2 stamina curios on top of that

[wind spruce]

Id just rather take slightly less damage from melee bleed through and be able to tank more ranged shots

Than have superfluous stamina

[upper sun]

nah you need tag+stamina on kill

[marble crater]

But talent points

[upper sun]

smooth brain point and click vet is best vet

[marble crater]

Also I don't want to tag everything

[upper sun]

bind shoot to tag

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

its not that bad

[karmic finch]

Melee bleed through is only an issue if you can't recover 100% toughness before getting hit, and again, blocking.

I have buckets and buckets of stamina, why am I getting hit in melee?

[upper sun]

if you use a slower fire weapon like revolver or plasma

[marble crater]

It is, plus I can't on xbox anyway

[upper sun]

fatshark wont let you rebind

[wind spruce]

Let's not play the false binary game. The scenarios where I'm getting hit in melee it's not because of a lack of stamina.

[upper sun]

cant have shit on atoma 😭

[marble crater]

Nope, we just have a few different layouts, and they all suck

[upper sun]

rebinding controller is ancient tech im pretty sure some xbox360 games had it

[marble crater]

Thankfully my controller has back paddles and I can rebind them with the software, but we still can't have one button for two things

[rigid sky]

Double bruiser lovetap

[wind spruce]

On the note of recovering toughness, thoough... toughness regen speed gets a bad rap for no good reason

[karmic finch]

Either my staff and shout have kept things at bay enough, or they haven't, and I push/block/dodge my way around till I have space to zap again

[upper sun]

😭

thats the best part

[wind spruce]

You don't need 6 stam for that

[karmic finch]

But it feels so good when you have it

[marble crater]

There is also the bug where I have to switch the layout back and forth every time I start the game, because otherwise it will pull out a stim when I tag and then when I shoot I use it of course

[karmic finch]

Like you can fall back on your stamina pool no matter what is being thrown at you

[upper sun]

[karmic finch]

Rather than having to resolve the issue before you burn it

[wind spruce]

I never enter a scenario where I need anything more than +3 and KD

Pack of six ragers and a spawn? It's plenty

Block briefly, dodge slide out, start buttering bread

[marble crater]

With +3 stamina and KD I sometimes get bored while waiting for peril to get high enough for a shriek

[wind spruce]

Literally

[karmic finch]

I push spam too much to really need KD

The point is there but my stamina goes into pushes more than blocks

[wind spruce]

You don't need any extra stam to push spam

Not on psyker

[upper sun]

ok

[wind spruce]

But anyway

[upper sun]

full game of a french person speaking loudly on vc

i cant

[wind spruce]

It's just personal taste

[honest robin]

lmao

[wind spruce]

You know what gets a bad rap

Toughness regen speed

[honest robin]

i got two germans talking to each other once

on the curios its good if you stack it yeah

you start refilling almost instantly

that's how i got untouchable

[wind spruce]

If you're a coherency c♡ck running triple is great

Yeah exactly

[upper sun]

i swear to god

[wind spruce]

Gets you back to that toughness gate asap

[upper sun]

its like all french players of this game just play savant psyker

[honest robin]

im making this into an acceptable burny trauma for funzies what perk swap do people think is best

[rigid sky]

Specialists to Flak

[wind spruce]

Keep elites

[rigid sky]

Not ideal but stillok

[honest robin]

i figured it would be to flak yeah

this is just a staff i had lying around with WN4 on it

[marble crater]

Update will fix it

[wind spruce]

The real problem is the charge rate

[honest robin]

no trip to brunt for this

[wind spruce]

You're missing out on 0.18s

Significant

[honest robin]

yeah thats no joke, especially flurryless

i plan to make a real trauma with brittleness and flurry and rolls and stuff

i kinda just want to see how this is

[marble crater]

Blaze Trauma is the real Trauma

[wind spruce]

@karmic finch have you done 9 stam 56% block efficiency yet. 'Tis funny.

11 stam***

[marble crater]

Do you just walk to the end of the mission while blocking?

[rigid sky]

Blaze Trauma wants that crit chance perk too ideally

[karmic finch]

will play about with that at some point lol

I have the sword for it

[wind spruce]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/E4D680GbzS

[honest robin]

im already running most of what this build wants to be i think, im working from a copy of my gunker

[rigid sky]

Just don't take DD or SG lol

[honest robin]

scriers gaze could be funny

im farming shield penance though

20% crit chance!!

be careful to not explode though!

i should swap this over to a siphon build though as much as i love DD

[wind spruce]

I would only run DD with trauma if I'm also running assail

[honest robin]

its all for my sword i gotta go crazy with the DS

this seems like a build worth wildfire

[wind spruce]

Can't hate that

[wind spruce]

Doubtful

[honest robin]

really? i guess you can just explode the people who arent burning too

[wind spruce]

Wildfire is controversial

If you're running blaze trauma and shriek then, yeah, take it

[honest robin]

i run a lot of psyker builds that dont have a lot of horde clear so i pick it up pretty frequently

im not running shriek for penance reasons ill see how the peril economy works without it

[wind spruce]

It just doesn't put in much work without high levels of soulblaze

You've got to be consistently adding onto the 1-3 stacks wildfire spreads

Or it's worthless

[honest robin]

in fire reborn (warp siphon mod) is only if the kill is from a DOT tick or like, purgatus attack right and is bad on most builds right

the other one is theoretically 20% more charges if the teams in coherency and killing equally i think as well

[ornate hamlet]

I have a new opinion on this staff + DD, courtesy of my friend cos i dont have the mod

[honest robin]

i feel like blaze trauma benefits from wildfire alone, you're applying wide stacks and then you can concentrate them

oh yeah you got a crusher cracker

[wind spruce]

iirc it's if it's affected by soulblaze but killed by any source

But i always forget

[honest robin]

im debating buying the soulblaze perks or going for the guaranteed crit

its not uncommon i kill 5 enemies with a sword then pull staff (in fact its really common)

[wind spruce]

Yeah blaze trauma definitely benefits

It can really use those extra couple of stacks because it's so inconsistent

[wind spruce]

Voidstrike go BRRRRRR

[honest robin]

i cant reach true aim and either of them unfortunately

[ornate hamlet]

it is stupidly strong

[honest robin]

i'd go wildfire true aim 100%

[wind spruce]

Can't have everything

[honest robin]

yeah but im ONE point off is the frustrating part lol

[ornate hamlet]

decided to keep BB cos 1. its way funnier than assail 2. can snipe blue people 100meters away for 3 stacks 3. boss nuke after ult

[honest robin]

its 2 points from my current purchases to wildfire and 3 to true aim, i have 4 points remaining...

[rigid sky]

Yeah, my Void build's biggest failling is the boss damage

brain rupture definitely works for that

[honest robin]

i dont have anything im willing to sac either

[wind spruce]

Valid, plus you get psykinetics aura

So more shrieking

[ornate hamlet]

yep

[honest robin]

and more shrieking means more bursting now

[hardy raft]

blue people only spawns in like 50? 30m or something p sure
either way you get psychinetics aura which is nice

[honest robin]

that was a good mod to see

kinetic resonance is based

[hardy raft]

anyway peril reduction for rending

[ornate hamlet]

ok i was overaggagerating but sometimes they're running too far away to reliably hit with staff or assail? maybe assial is just skill issue tho

[wind spruce]

Kinetic resonance is supremely underrated

[honest robin]

staff your peril up, shriek it off, then start exploding people with empowered brainbursts like a machine gun

[hardy raft]

assail charged kinda solves it but eh it can be hard

[ornate hamlet]

BB is just so easy to hit and u can duck around a corner as soon as u lock on

kinetic resonance is so fat on bosses

[honest robin]

with EP KR you dont need to take cover lol

it comes out so fast

[hardy raft]

too bad this is like worse version of a gunpsyker
i use one as a hybrid and its fun turning on gaze and just popping heads with full auto BB

[ornate hamlet]

i dont have EP

im talking about bursting blue people that are far away

[honest robin]

the advantage is you just do it on top of some other build that's not a gunker like any of the staffs

[wind spruce]

Don't worry it's overrated af with BB

[honest robin]

and it gives you gunker type elite removal in a pinch

[ornate hamlet]

EP and BB is very fun but it feels incredibly impractical compared to the alternatives

[honest robin]

it mostly is

[hardy raft]

fair point

[marble crater]

I want that to be true, almost everyone picks the other node though, so I think it only counts for things being killed by soulblaze.
It would be so big we would notice for sure

[honest robin]

i can go lab it rn

[wind spruce]

It's not hard to test

[honest robin]

give me a sec

[wind spruce]

Spawn a bunch of shit. Hit F. One shot them with trauma.

[hardy raft]

even friendly kills?cause im sure as hell its not working thay way

[wind spruce]

If you don't ever get any warp charges it doesn't work

[marble crater]

No mods, no spawning shit

[wind spruce]

You can do it without creature spawner

It's just slower

[hardy raft]

anyway i feel like the soulblaze one is bad

gets to proc less if your friendlies just ammohog and shoot the ones burning before you

[honest robin]

ok yeah its killing anything on fire

[marble crater]

True enough, let's see what Seythi says

[honest robin]

i lit people up then sworded them and got charges

[hardy raft]

cool

[wind spruce]

Lesson: I'm always right

[honest robin]

i assume its not friendly kills

[wind spruce]

[marble crater]

Time to test it with friendly kills, which will be more difficult

[wind spruce]

Hmmmm

[honest robin]

also im really not getting procs that often, having shriek to keep you in the top half of nexus probably helps a lot

[wind spruce]

Bot spawner should do it

[marble crater]

I wouldn't go that far, but you are right a lot of times

[honest robin]

am i running creature spawner rn and is that a different mod

[wind spruce]

EVERY TIME

[wind spruce]

Yes

[honest robin]

i think the guaranteed crit will help this staff a lot, but i think wildfire will also be high value, so i guess i have to drop the toughness mod from shield

that feels like an evil trick

idk if i just have terrible luck but this thing is not causing a lot of fire

i think i have as much crit chance as you can have without gazing too

have i been tricked into making a meme build

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/g7LK60

Pretty sure it counts friendly kills @marble crater @honest robin @hardy raft

Unless the live server is different from psykhanium

[honest robin]

wow

that's kinda huge?

for one thing it means you're gonna get your siphons back immediately after shrieking every time

that's a pickable talent right there

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's the best pick imo

[ornate hamlet]

btw does carapace or maniac go harder here

[wind spruce]

Flak carapace is my pick

[ornate hamlet]

alrighty

[marble crater]

Surely that would never happen to be the case

Thanks for testing, I will test it in matches later, just going to shriek at something and then chill

[ornate hamlet]

is this correct

[rigid sky]

:)

[quartz barn]

ye that happens sometimes

void moment

also looks like you're running kinetic flayer?

[lusty seal]

What's the best psyker build to deal with a herd of chargers, galloping majestically over your corpse?

[quartz barn]

as in, ragers or crushers?

[marble crater]

Or muties

[quartz barn]

if muties just use ep smite or ds4 heavy spam

ds4 should oneshot and ep smite stunlocks the group while also dealing decent dmg

[marble crater]

First we need to know what a charger is

[quartz barn]

or you can just run barrier to stop them, but is kinda meh tbh

charger = the cow like machine from horizon that you can ride

you can also charge heavy those so kinda checks out lmao

[ornate hamlet]

if thats the bad BB talent then no im not??

[rigid sky]

Shouldn't be needed to onetap a crusher anyway

Might have been Surge proc

[quartz barn]

idk just seemed like it in the clip, but i guess that was the crushers head exploding then

[marble crater]

Dueling Sword to the face is most satisfying

[quartz barn]

also that was most definitely a surge proc because void doesnt onehit otherwise

maybe double explosion too but hard to tell

[rigid sky]

But yeah that is the point of the build lol

[marble crater]

Spamming Void along long hallways and hearing the cracks

[quartz barn]

tbf thats just normal void setup

[ornate hamlet]

TRUE

the noise it makesomg

[smoky linden]

Hat

[marble crater]

It's a nice hat

[lusty seal]

Meant mutants. Could have sworn they were called chargers

[upper sun]

🤔 i think you mean l4d

[lusty seal]

Yeah could be

[marble crater]

With a Dueling Sword 4 and some buffs you can one shot them with a heavy attack to the face, Deimos works too with the second heavy attack. Special Illisi heavy followed by some light attacks also works. That along with dodging is your best way to deal with them

Smite, Surge or Void can also work

[lusty seal]

Thanks. Does vent stop their charge?

[radiant frigate]

um actually juiced up illisi heavies can onetap them too

[radiant frigate]

shriek? not that i know of

[lusty seal]

Good to know

[molten pond]

Is brain burst good?

[marble crater]

Okay, I wasn't sure. I did it a few times but it was less reliable than Dueling Sword, so I figured people damaged them already before

[radiant frigate]

situational, like all psyker blitzes

[radiant frigate]

DD + potentially some slaughterer stacks

[molten pond]

The little time I did play it looks like good specialist killer

[radiant frigate]

maybe a crit

[molten pond]

Like it popped a sniper no issue

[ornate hamlet]

its good and fun and thats all u need

[plucky flax]

Slaughterer stacks illisi special heavy can indeed.

[upper sun]

smh people dont know about executor slaughter illisi

cuts through everything like butter

[radiant frigate]

they remain ignorant of the unstable power slaughterer illisi

[upper sun]

does unstable work in stacks or is it smooth scalling?

[upper sun]

thanks

[near wyvern]

@upper sun

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[upper sun]

ikno but asking is faster than loading a steam page 😭

[near wyvern]

I literally loaded the steam page and took a snap to answer the question so that statement is proven false

[upper sun]

im with my parents rn no high speed internet

😭

[marble crater]

[sacred crane]

which one should i replace for dumdum?

[marble crater]

Stripped down imo

[hearty oak]

By itself? No, it's awful. Stacked with kinetic resonance and EP, it's amazing at handling orgyn packs

And if you have all those and take a blue stimm? Holy shit the game sometimes can't keep up with how fast you're going while loading all of what is going on in a game

[supple dock]

This is all factually correct ^

[stone totem]

It's kind of insane how good kinetic deflection is

Tank a mauler overhead, only 20-30 peril

You can just walk through the middle of a mixed horde, ragers and all, if you just keep pushing and dodging through the space you make

Good for rezing too iirc

[hearty oak]

Very good for rezzing

One day I'll start using deflector swords. But chaining mutant kills back to back in a maelstrom is addicting

With the deiomos mk4

[radiant frigate]

deflector is cringe

shares a slot with murder blessings

[cinder moon]

kati staken

[hearty oak]

Deflector deflects gunner execution moments.

[cinder moon]

deflector is good if you don’t use the sword a lot

[radiant frigate]

true

[hearty oak]

I do. I like shred and slaughterer on it but damn does it sometimes make me wish I had deflector for instances I run into a gagglefuck of gunners

[radiant frigate]

deflector is good if you do not actually want a melee weapon

[cinder moon]

staff bash > melee weapon

[marble crater]

Just dodge

[radiant frigate]

anyway force greatsword when?

[stone totem]

I was talking about the talent, maybe said the wrong name but I have been wondering about taking that blessing on a different deimos than the one I'm using

[radiant frigate]

kinetic deflection is imo core

[marble crater]

Agreed, it's just very nice and the 5% crit chance before that are also useful for every psyker build

[upper sun]

play ogryn
game spawns 300 gunners and 5 before the first event

[stone totem]

Considering how much less melee-y psyker is than every other class even if built into, yeah I agree

[stone totem]

It's the trash ranged that really get me

[upper sun]

it was actual gunners

i think i could have made it if i didnt waste all my ammo and miss like 4 muties with rock

[stone totem]

Maybe I'm a freak but I find that the ranged chaff are so much harder to deal with than the gunners

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-eirin-yagokoro-eirin-yagokoro-touhou-project-gif-23296617

there is nothing worse than entrenched shootymans when you're alone

[stone totem]

"be not afraid" ass bullet hell

[upper sun]

ye rest of the team died

that didnt help much

[radiant frigate]

stop flanking me and engage me in melee you cowards, there are 100 of you and 1 of me