psyker-class

[bold cape]

that’s just unnecessary

[upper sun]

no

[karmic finch]

I have a switchy swappy vet build, which is hilarious to play.

And tagging build, which is defo stronger but less fun.

Both running shout because the other abilities are so much worse

[bold cape]

500 pages in a word processor? id rather just go read a novel series

[upper sun]

no

I WILL read it when he finishes

if he ever finishes

[bold cape]

im gonna “no” you

[upper sun]

im joking about the guide being 500 pages

but the part he already finished is uploaded and its 40 pages

so realstically should be around 100 when its done kek

[lethal lagoon]

Can you even hold a book with non-hand cannon capable hands

[bold cape]

[upper sun]

awful

that was a 1/10

[lethal lagoon]

You're a 1/10

[upper sun]

that makes me .9 points higher than u

[lethal lagoon]

So I'm 1 in a billion?

I'll take that.

You are just normal ugly.

I'm make millions unique ugly

[upper sun]

🤔 idk if being circus ugly is better than normal ugly

[lethal lagoon]

I'd say you are unique enough to still find love.

Versus just normal ugly, must be kinda rough.

[upper sun]

🤔

we better keep you out of the animal cages

[lethal lagoon]

I'm just going to cancel whatever I was typing

[upper sun]

that means i won

[lethal lagoon]

won what?

[upper sun]

the exchange

[lethal lagoon]

Damn, how do I keep typing something that'll make your animal cages statement more true

Yeah I guess you won.

[upper sun]

[lethal lagoon]

I was gonna liken making fun of you to teasing my dog, so of course you feel like you "won", you got to play and have fun.

[upper sun]

that was my magic the gathering win con as well

bother the opponent so much until they surrender

[lethal lagoon]

You're not a bother

[upper sun]

:3

[haughty star]

Surge is OK for bossing

Painfully OK

Also late to the party but yeah vet is broken OP. If I'm not doing well on my psyker I just switch to my vett and let the build win for me

[upper sun]

vet is the only class i could do twins on way back when

[stone totem]

I feel like vet is slightly above what power level should be, psyker is slightly-medium below

[clear oriole]

does warp expenditure work with scriers gaze

[plucky flax]

It was me.

[stone totem]

Zealot's about right, ogryn is also slightly weaker but depending on build

[plucky flax]

Are you saying psyker is weak?

[haughty star]

Psyker feels good when you play well. Rarely am I ever not first on the scoreboard with my psyker lol

[plucky flax]

Pls buff blaze trauma.

[haughty star]

Or at the very least a second best

[lethal lagoon]

It was me, barry. I changed fatsharks code at super sonic speed everytime you played so you'd think you'd need more HP to survive poxbursters.

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-me-barry-original-flash-reverse-flash-gif-16579891338034607240

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-easter-god-bless-blessed-blessings-chia236-gif-16837400

Okay my net is so slow I have no clue what this gif is.

[upper sun]

@plucky flax they delayed shop reset to tomorrow

[plucky flax]

Maybe they give us 1k aqualia to compensate.

[upper sun]

so you're gonna have to fight some more polar bears for internet access again tomorrow

[plucky flax]

Luckily there are no polar bears here.

I am not in the arctic.

[upper sun]

oookay

we both know you're there brokering a peace deal with the underground lizards

YO wait wtf is "Pierce
Special Attacks ignore Hit Mass Bonus from Armour."

i dont have this blessing

wait nvm its special attack only

[spice veldt]

sunder psword?

[upper sun]

no its an ogryn thing for rumblr and kickback

sounded cool but it just effects the swing

[jovial juniper]

Yup

[upper sun]

does fatshark know ogryn have melee weapons?

[jovial juniper]

Your ranged special counts as heavy, so I guess they do

[plucky flax]

Melee only GG.

[jovial juniper]

Cleavers have Unstoppable Force
Clubs have Perfect Strike
Kickback and Rumbler have Pierce

[upper sun]

they also have blaze away surgical and sticky

oh yeah full bore too

idk why anyone would willing waste a spot on that

[jovial juniper]

No wonder it's a T2 blessing lol

I might have a Punishing Fire + Expansive Kickback somewhere on my list

[eager horizon]

Were you a good Higui this year? If so you might get a visit from hinterklaus. But you will have to survive the mischievery of the 12 yule lads first.

[thorn cedar]

yule #1: hide ten chocolates for the children to find
yule #2: survive the infernal lava floes of mount destruction

[marble crater]

[thorn cedar]

yule #3: do yoga four mornings in a row

[eager horizon]

Yule #4. Lock up your spoons so spoon licker can't lick em.

[marble crater]

This was so disturbing for some reason

[upper sun]

it was funny

[marble crater]

I'm pretty sure I had at least one bad dream because of it

[jovial juniper]

It's too early for yule

[upper sun]

i think i only really had one because of "internet horror" i jsut cant remember which podcast

[lethal lagoon]

Wut you mean, he's a cutey pie.

[bold cape]

having smitker teammates while playing a melee heavy character is like eating glass

im handling a pack of 10 ragers just fine with my dclaw? yay smite..yay hitting unresponsive enemies...fun

[upper sun]

now you understand why we hate smite

tho

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

it would be kinda funny to see a hammer zealot psyker true duo

where the zealot is only melee+knives and the psyker is only smite

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like they had a fairly smite hate from the start.

[upper sun]

"they"

now its they

[stiff falcon]

13th 380 this week

[upper sun]

i know that feeling

i think ive been seeing 380s more now

[lethal lagoon]

Your life is just a bunch of great rolls you fail at.

[marble crater]

80 warp resistance, nice

[bold cape]

i did
but i mostly played ranged-heavy builds for a while
having a smitker while im on zealot is literally the worst thing

auric damnation? more like malice

[stiff falcon]

i buy anything 375 or higher

[upper sun]

nuh uhhh

[upper sun]

same

actually no i have the filter at 370

[bold cape]

ntm the mission took forever cause we had not one but TWO smitkers
who would just hold it down no matter the situation

[stiff falcon]

too good for peasant weapons

[bold cape]

i have my filter at 350, cause im desperate

[upper sun]

noooo

[marble crater]

Smitkers are the knife zealots of psykers

[stiff falcon]

smitkers rise up

[bold cape]

id much rather play with a knife zealot cause at least theyd go down and likely leave lmao

its like new teammate, thank you

[marble crater]

Plot twist, it's a smitker

[bold cape]

i think imma just leave in the first 10 seconds if its a smitker

its like they dont even smite the right enemies
pack of bulwarks you could make super easy to kill or pack of harmless trash? obviously you should smite the trash

[stiff falcon]

i love knife zealot

[bold cape]

like i dont usually care how people play as long as they dont actively make the game worse or less fun for their team

[eager horizon]

I thought gunkers were the knife zealots, no?

[upper sun]

nah gunkers are real

[eager horizon]

Although, mayhaps knife psyker is knife zealot

[upper sun]

so are knife psykers

[eager horizon]

... so are knife zealots?

I donnae follow

[upper sun]

everything is real except smite and taxe

[eager horizon]

Those don't exist?

[marble crater]

Time to play Surge Smite now, maybe I run into alyx

[bold cape]

i think itd be best if we replaced smite with a void
if you try to take smite it eats all 30 of your talent points and it says "sorry make a new psyker try again"

[upper sun]

they shouldnt

[bold cape]

thank god we're separated by an ocean

[upper sun]

thats 2 clicks

like 8 for me since i just shut down the game

[bold cape]

[upper sun]

t2

[bold cape]

DONT CARE

[upper sun]

[bold cape]

i would take handcannon 1 at this point

[plucky flax]

Too high warp resist. D:

[lethal lagoon]

You have to start from tier 1 to build up wrist strength.

You should scrap that tier 2, it's a little much.

[bold cape]

[narrow herald]

what should I go for the perks?

I dont have slaughterer

[lethal lagoon]

Perfect gif look at those shaky hands.

smh

[bold cape]

so i can replace infested or carapace on it
wtf even is infested armor

[lethal lagoon]

dogs, one of the mobs

[bold cape]

wow

is that it?

[upper sun]

the really gross trash not the kinda gross trash

[lethal lagoon]

There's probably more, but i think there's a good reason I don't remember.

[bold cape]

ah yeah i see

now what to replace it with

[plucky flax]

Perk can be flak to kill elites faster.

And dreg bruisers.

Though you really want slaughterer on it. Slaughterer, then 2nd blessing your choice.

[narrow herald]

should I give up this one's blessings for it then?

[stiff falcon]

hardest 3veg!!!!!!

[stone totem]

First upgrade try rolling a purg

What change?

[upper sun]

idk go elite to flak

and its kinda perfect

[stone totem]

Keep the crit?

Do the burn stacks get the perk damage bonuses or is it its own thing?

[upper sun]

ye crit it is great on purge

yeah

[stone totem]

Thanks bud

[bold cape]

i was today years old when i found out surgical applies to blades of faith

[upper sun]

everything applies to throwing knives

now try manstopper

[stone totem]

This look okay for a Deimos/Purgatus build?

[bold cape]

would yall disown me if i tried a knife zealot build

[stone totem]

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-ragdoll-video-game-video-game-gif-20573521

[marble crater]

Is the director on crack today?

[stiff falcon]

hehe

[stiff falcon]

low spawns

[bold cape]

i got a nice knife from emperors gift..well nice i thought until i realized it had finesse as a dump stat

[marble crater]

I had an auric that felt like maelstrom, he was spamming specials like crazy, even though it was histg

[upper sun]

ye perfectly fine tho im not a battle meditation enjoyer

[marble crater]

Nobody is

[upper sun]

and the second BB upgrade idk

i never get it to proc on good targets

[plucky flax]

Maybe just git gud.

[lethal lagoon]

Why don't you get on right now and show us gitting gud

[marble crater]

We crushed it, was just a lot more intense than just yesterday, director took some drugs today for sure

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[narrow herald]

wait i forgor

[bold cape]

meanwhile i did a maelstrom and it was like malice for some reason

[narrow herald]

if you earn the blessing of a weapon in the same category, do all weapons in that category get to be reblessed with it?

[bold cape]

yes

and across all characters too

[marble crater]

Depends on what you mean by category

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, and just in case, staves are not the same cateogyr.

[plucky flax]

I will in 3 months.

[lethal lagoon]

[stone totem]

I actually kinda agree with the BB comment but I'm a silly gambling man, but about battle meditation I think it's amazing because of how many targets you're killing with purgatus in a horde

[narrow herald]

blaze swords

[marble crater]

He is waiting for the blaze trauma buffs, before he will show us

Then yes, as the others said

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

For real I think FS probably would buff blaze trauma.

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically, yeah.

[plucky flax]

Rarely any people ever use it.

[upper sun]

i dont think it would be bad if they limited it to like ogryn bosses and elites

[lethal lagoon]

Similar to EP smite, I've never run into someone doing high damage with Blaze Trauma

The numbers are probably bad.

[plucky flax]

Everytime I use it people are like "Yo what's the build?"

Like they see ghost.

[lethal lagoon]

The one time I played with someone good with blaze trauma, I still caried the fuck out of them.

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

And what do you answer?

[plucky flax]

Inferno Storm?!

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Dude you not watch the youtube vid?1

[lethal lagoon]

[bold cape]

honestly they should just buff it
kinda sucks
they should give me a 380 godroll too, just for compensation using such an awful weapon

[marble crater]

I only watched a video by some guy named AgentChaos don't copy him, he did weird things with the staff, like flick it in the air

[plucky flax]

Must be something only unsanctioned people do.

Be sanctioned and bask in the emprah's lights.

[lethal lagoon]

You can find a video of him being carried and saved by a lvl 6 random psyker. It's honestly embarassing. Don't watch agent chaos's videos.

[marble crater]

I did watch that video

[lethal lagoon]

So bad right?

[plucky flax]

Agent Chaos? Unscantioned Psyker?

[lethal lagoon]

[bold cape]

oh you're unsanctioned

[marble crater]

Yeah, pretty cringe

[plucky flax]

Wait how did I even go down I actually felt really bad.

[lethal lagoon]

Seriously

[plucky flax]

I think I got stuffed by specials.

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine being rescued by a lvl 6 smiker.

Bottom of your career.

[plucky flax]

Imagine if I actually had a functional teammate.

[upper sun]

imagine causing the need for a rescue

[plucky flax]

[bold cape]

imagine not playing perfectly
wtf are you even doing

[lethal lagoon]

You literally went down because you saved me from a mutant holding me in the fire btw.

[plucky flax]

I do remember that I was playing that game on laptop.

[marble crater]

If you play blaze trauma you already lost, because it's so bad

[plucky flax]

So I have excuse for shit play.

17 inches monitor kill my eyes.

I have to squint to aim.

[bold cape]

eugh

[lethal lagoon]

I love small moniters and I cannot lie.

[bold cape]

32" gang

[lethal lagoon]

Too bad they don't make em anymore

[plucky flax]

On laptop I am limited to 17 inches max. I don't think I want to carry around a 5kg+ 19 inches beef cake.

[lethal lagoon]

I just get the tiniest I can buy that isn't complete garbage, and it's still usually big

[plucky flax]

At home I currently have 27 but I want to upgrade to ultrawide around 32~33 inches.

[lethal lagoon]

I like 14 inch laptops

All sizes are great

[plucky flax]

It's okay for working I guess.

[bold cape]

youd have to be like 4 inches from the screen

[plucky flax]

But gaming on such small stuff you can't even read text.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, my text reading eyesight is super solid

👀

Probably from growing up as a console gamer

Well a mixtue.

Now my spelling skills

[bold cape]

i like 32" cause i can lean back and watch movies and shit
and its still good
i d/e have a tv

[lethal lagoon]

TVs are nice to have so you don't have to leave your PC running in a tiny room while sleeping imo.

[bold cape]

id like a 32" 4k but i dont have a 4090

[lethal lagoon]

I'm waiting for both 5090 release and another crypto crash

[bold cape]

i cant sleep with tv light so thats fine for me

i put yt on my phone and set it on my nightstand

[lethal lagoon]

Funny enough, one tiny RGB light will drive me insane, but the tv is fine.

[bold cape]

i sleep in darkness
i have blackout curtains for when my sleep schedule is borked

[lethal lagoon]

I also have blackout curtains. The tinest bit of outside light also bothers me

[bold cape]

sunlight??? ew

[lethal lagoon]

The complete inability to relate to a vampire's weakness to the sun being a problem.

[bold cape]

literally me

[marble crater]

So you two feel right at home on atoma

[lethal lagoon]

"Oh no, I can't go out during the day and now have a valid excuse to never see the sun again, how terrible"

[bold cape]

and you get cool powers and shit

and following some media, you get to be hot af too

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine lore accurate vampires. So someone from the 1700s has like permenantly fucked up teeth as a vampire.

Vampires 200+ years and up don't smile.

[lethal lagoon]

Do you run purg at all?

[bold cape]

i forgot warhammer had vampires

[plucky flax]

Sometimes yeah when I want to feel extra lazy. Surge is chill, but it's still more intense than purga for me.

When I play purga I literally give 0 fuck and just plod around the map to burn melee chaffs.

I hope vets can deal with shooters before I walk up to them to flame. D:

[lethal lagoon]

Wuts your purg build

[bold cape]

im starting to hit that darktide burnout

[lethal lagoon]

Is it just surge, no wildfire? Smite -> BB.

[plucky flax]

I have 2. One with warp charges one with ep bb (for monster maelstrom)

I can link. It has wildfire though.

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

But on purg, I just press f at like 30% peril even. Since I only use it for the stagger.

I am not concern about 83%+ creeping flames with purga.

Unless it's a monster.

Also play purga with bloom turn on for maximum self inflicting eyes rape.

If you can't see the enemies they can't see you.

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

Stop staring, you are already at 7% eye health

[bold cape]

wait yall have bloom off?

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea. I just swapped my purg to nurgle poop

I probably have it off

Surge can do some funky things in fog

[wind spruce]

How are you generating ep charges for the monstrosities? Seems like you'd get 3 (maybe 1-2 more if you get some random lucky procs) brain bursts at extra 50% damage and then no benefit. Increased kinetic resonance uptime from WC might just out dps it

[plucky flax]

It's only for monsters maelstrom. And I tend to have 2 if not 3 ep charges.

The smol monsters die easly to a combo of purga to 83%, creeping flames, then bb.

21 soulblaze + fast bb is pretty gud against weakened monsters.

[wind spruce]

I suppose once it's loaded up with flames there's not much health left at the end of the three BBs

True

[hexed geyser]

What melee do you use with those purg build?

[plucky flax]

Whatever you want tbh. On warp charges I use deflector uncanny deimos with maniac carapace. On monster kill build I go knife with uncanny flesh tearer unyielding.

[wind spruce]

Probably DS or deimos

[plucky flax]

For when i have to solo a chaos spawn by myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1PXsAu2ik

[upper sun]

forget maniac carap go stamina block for ULTIMATE DEFENCE

[hexed geyser]

I will just use whatever my deflector sword is atm lol

[upper sun]

nah nah

you need THIS

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1250633194039148554/ezgif-6-aef06cc46c.jpg?

idk if warp res effects KD but i feel like it does

[marble crater]

[austere kiln]

purg build psyker trying to do special assignment on malice difficulty and i suck...wat am i doing wrong

[hexed geyser]

lmao both melk and brunt just sold me a +3 at the same time

Its a sign

[marble crater]

Show build and weapons

[austere kiln]

i never played a warhammer game in my life so i dont know anything

[austere kiln]

k one sec

[haughty harbor]

anyone know what dmg actually does on purg, been trying to find an explanation and just just come across thesis on tick rate direct dmg and stuff

[austere kiln]

im p sure its burn percentage that matters?

thats what i gathered

[marble crater]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor you will need to use this, you can't send pictures yet

[haughty harbor]

yeah burn is main but there is also a "burn intensity" stat in the dmg breakdown not sure what it does

[austere kiln]

oh thanks. prolly for the best since my build is no where near anything ive seen on the site

[hexed geyser]

Damage is the direct hit from the fire (kinda useless) and burn is the DoT effect after (99% of the damage) iirc

[austere kiln]

Do i just have to get lucky w weapon rolls?

[marble crater]

Damage affects the damage when you use the small primary shots, it's pretty much a dump stat

[marble crater]

Kind of, for now at least

[haughty harbor]

so would 80 burn still do more than 76 even though same stack ammount?

[austere kiln]

what should I be looking for? I'm trying to just copy other ppl's builds but my percentages are all rlly low. Is there any way of increasing them? \

[marble crater]

You can't increase them, no

[hexed geyser]

I think 76 is the last breakpoint

[marble crater]

There is a psyker guide pinned here, that will help with the basics

[austere kiln]

I'll take a look then, it's about time i sit down and actually memorize the game's terminology. Thanks for the help tho

[marble crater]

What you want on weapons depends on the weapon to some degree, but for psyker you usually want everything high except for warp resistance, because it's the least impactful

[lethal lagoon]

Yet.

[austere kiln]

actually for reference my build is almost exactly like this

I feel so squishy all the time

brain rupture, purg

[marble crater]

Maybe you just need to practice melee more, psyker always feels squishy. If we mess up we pay dearly

[austere kiln]

Oh so I'm supposed to be a glass cannon

[hexed geyser]

yeah

[marble crater]

We can kill everything no problem, but everything can also kill us

[austere kiln]

It always goes back to getting gud...

[marble crater]

Yes, we are the pinnacle of glass cannon

[hexed geyser]

On no other class do you fear a single poxwalker hitting you with no toughness for half your health

[austere kiln]

Okay that's definitely reassuring. I thought I was just THAT bad

[upper sun]

yes

[marble crater]

Kill 30 elites
Die to two poxwalkers 10 seconds later

[upper sun]

every class

[haughty harbor]

for reference this was the stat I was referring to

[hexed geyser]

I don't play with 135 health with next to no damage resistance on other classes

[austere kiln]

Is that what curios are for then? To help w stat increases without the skill tree? I have rlly shite ones so thats not helping

[marble crater]

Nah, psyker as first character is just hard mode for learning the game

[upper sun]

nah even on zealot and vet

[austere kiln]

Best way to play a game

[upper sun]

i shit myself when i hear the HUHUHHH sound

[hexed geyser]

Ok i was making a joke based on the experiences i had from gameplay, it's not that important

[marble crater]

Curios are mostly for more health and toughness, yes. But also resistance against enemy types you hate, usually gunners

[upper sun]

bomber resist on psyker

[marble crater]

Later on you might also use curios for stamina, because that can be great for survival

[austere kiln]

What does warp resistance even do

[marble crater]

Reduces the amount of peril you gain

[upper sun]

causes you to generate less peril from attacks that generate peril

[austere kiln]

wow thank u guys

[upper sun]

and maybe generate less peril from blocking?

[austere kiln]

What swords do u guys use?

[upper sun]

chat pls verify

[plucky flax]

Purga has good stagger with right click. Against ragers and shotgunners use left click to stagger them.

[upper sun]

illisi deimos and duelling sword mark 4

[marble crater]

I don't know, I just block until I'm at 90 then I vent and keep blocking while everyone burns

[plucky flax]

Spam f a lot on purga when enemies get close to you for stagger.

[austere kiln]

Do u switch them out

[haughty harbor]

thought this was linked to block efficiency

[austere kiln]

That I do

[upper sun]

based on build yeah illisi is better for clear deimos and ds4 for single target

[plucky flax]

What do you take damage from?

[upper sun]

ye that i know works

@plucky flax warp resist on swords works with KD right?

[austere kiln]

wat me

[marble crater]

Melee weapon depends on your ranged weapon and Blitz, ranged weapon depends on your melee and Blitz.
Basically you want to try and have something for hordes, something for tanky targets and something for far away targets

[austere kiln]

I enjoy ad clearing which is why I went for purg. I just don't know what to look for in a melee weapon that could make my gameplay better

[marble crater]

Deimos or Dueling Sword Mk4 for big targets

[upper sun]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psyker-feat-kinetic-deflection-doesnt-take-peril-resistance-into-account/74514

[plucky flax]

Hrm I think it ties to stamina and block efficiency instead.

[upper sun]

LMAO

[austere kiln]

difference?

[lethal lagoon]

Dueling sword is super cool

[spice veldt]

warp res stat modifier on staffs/swords only affect the peril gen that the weapons do

[lethal lagoon]

Dueling sword has better mobility, better dodges, and all you do is spam heavies on mutants/crushers.

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[upper sun]

not even innter tranquility effects KD

[marble crater]

Deimos is a force sword, so you can quell with it and it has some blessings that work with peril. Dueling Swords are high mobility, poke things.

[spice veldt]

also note that this has been fixed already

[upper sun]

Pfhoenix reported it

[austere kiln]

Idk mostly those armored guys and bosses (looking at the twins)

I've been alright managing bigger guys w the head pop

[upper sun]

thanks

[plucky flax]

You should fare well against armoured guys. I don't play purga at twins so can't give advices there.

[upper sun]

i wouldnt do psyker into twins

[lethal lagoon]

We know you wouldn't.

[plucky flax]

Wut why

Psyker op at twins.

[upper sun]

bad boss damage 😭

[plucky flax]

Ehhhhh

[marble crater]

I never did the twins

[lethal lagoon]

Dagger and columnus?

Or you can just elite clear for the team

[upper sun]

at any threat levle?

[austere kiln]

I was hoping you wouldn't say that..

[lethal lagoon]

Don't listen to clad, he's well known for being... special.

[austere kiln]

We made it to the final phase too :(

[upper sun]

its kinda easier on every other class

[marble crater]

Nope, and at this point I'm too afraid to try

[upper sun]

[plucky flax]

Twins at release when they weren't supposedly nerfed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIblNd7RN9w&feature=youtu.be

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Using incredibly bad staff btw.

[upper sun]

@marble crater took me like 8 attempts in pubs for damnation

[lethal lagoon]

There was a video of a 4 psyker run too

[austere kiln]

Does purg still stun armoured? I think I just don't know how to counter them atp

[lethal lagoon]

Looked super chill

[upper sun]

the issue is now no one plays twins anymore

[lethal lagoon]

8 pub attempts for the hardmode??

[upper sun]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

That's unironically not clad-core

Damn

[upper sun]

is that good or bad?

[plucky flax]

I did 3 psykers run on twins.

[lethal lagoon]

If it's not clad-core, you know what it is.

[plucky flax]

Super chill super ez. 1 was always smiter.

[upper sun]

2 on psyker 4 on zealot and 2 on vet did it on vet but that was a while ago

[lethal lagoon]

Just to be clear, you did the bell rining with 8 seperate pub teams and got hardmode down?

[austere kiln]

Ok I'm just bad then because the moment they start targeting me I panic and die

[marble crater]

Who do you mean with armored? Crushers? It should stagger everything that's not 3 taller than you

[upper sun]

uhhhhhhhh

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

I knew it, you were clad-core all along

[upper sun]

we only did bells once got kinda close

[austere kiln]

Idk the name of them 😭 probably

[lethal lagoon]

I pubbed the hardmode and it took me basically all day.

So I was really impressed

[austere kiln]

They got big axes and one shot me

[upper sun]

yeah when did you do it tho?

when they came out?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah.

[marble crater]

Are they really big and fat or more human sized?

[upper sun]

i did it in april no one is playing it anymore

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah I can't imagine anyone is trying to do hardmode pub at the moment.

[upper sun]

i cant even find uprising matches to do weeklies on twins

[austere kiln]

any of the flak amoured

I'm just really bad against them

[plucky flax]

Explain this twins boss damage

[marble crater]

A ragers, yeah you can stagger them with lmb no problem

[austere kiln]

Oh ok I thought I was missing something...I panic too much and don't do the right thing to counter lmao

[marble crater]

Purgatus staff is no problem against them, they get cooked alive

[upper sun]

ogryn carried

[plucky flax]

Tru

[marble crater]

Stagger them a little bit and then burn with rmb

[plucky flax]

I hindered the team for playing psyker.

[lethal lagoon]

As usual

[plucky flax]

Mr Unscationed extra L

[austere kiln]

wats ur build look like

[plucky flax]

Secret blaze trauma build.

[marble crater]

Really bad, don't copy it

[austere kiln]

LMAO

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

It's here.

[austere kiln]

Oh I didnt know that was your vid sorry

[plucky flax]

Oh it's not mine.

[lethal lagoon]

Who else would post this guy's videos

[plucky flax]

I just copy Mr Unsanctione'd build.

[austere kiln]

understood.

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

(literally me)

[plucky flax]

[austere kiln]

The move is to just copy the strongest psyker, understood

[plucky flax]

I am not confusing you at all.

Yes I heard he's top 1% world wide on blaze trauma (literally the only person who plays it)

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

There honestly might not even be 100 people who play blaze trauma

So like, that means you are a half man

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

Are there even 100 people who play psyker?

[lethal lagoon]

Technically 1 in a billion people are playing darktide right now

Wait

1 in a million

I'm so fucking dumb

[marble crater]

[austere kiln]

ok I see what I'm doing wrong I don't spam dodge

[upper sun]

lore accurate

[austere kiln]

As a matter of fact, I don't think I've ever dodged intentionally

[lethal lagoon]

I will literally never play EP smite ever again

[plucky flax]

I realise that vid doesn't actually show build. You can see build at the beginning of this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmMGD1ev5rE

[lethal lagoon]

I heard braincells can recover

[plucky flax]

Melee weapon can be whatever you want. You're using trauma for 90% of the map.

[upper sun]

woo 🎉

[marble crater]

That's a problem

[plucky flax]

But good luck if you actually want to craft a blaze trauma lul

[austere kiln]

trauma is interesting. I don't see a lot of build w it

[plucky flax]

You will be broken and abused by hadron.

[lethal lagoon]

He has random newbie in discord luck.

He'll get a perfect one first try

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

True

[lethal lagoon]

I've seen it too many times at this point

[upper sun]

its true

[austere kiln]

Yes I came to that conclusion a few seconds ago

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1214727287845552138/f6a89e6cfe8ab3fa06a75526f879decb.jpg?ex=666c33b1&is=666ae231&hm=1c032b3f9e0fd2c5e63c5d747b3f24b0a7b20de97f6be18164932bb22dc3f3f9&
i got those the first time i tried

the trick is not knowing anything about trauma when you first roll it

[austere kiln]

for reference I'm lvl 23.

[stiff falcon]

new psyker name

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, then don't roll for any weapons or worry about builds.

Use a gun and assail till 30

[upper sun]

ye dont bother crafting until you hit 30 you have better odds then

[marble crater]

[austere kiln]

[marble crater]

No wonder you are having problems, staves are still bad for you

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

yeah

[austere kiln]

I'll come back when I'm stronger....(lvl 30)

[upper sun]

purge for example needs to have at least 76% burn

we also have a very detailed guide pinned in the channel

[lethal lagoon]

You can get away without 76% burn, but low cloud radius will feel like straight dookie

💩

[upper sun]

76% or bust

[lethal lagoon]

I'll bust

[upper sun]

😨

d-dont

[austere kiln]

Looks at the 56% burn stave on the table

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

The highest base rating Melk is selling me is 356

[austere kiln]

Thank you guys, I learned a lot. I'll come back when I'm stronger and better. I'll be a different man

[marble crater]

And a Curio with 14% toughness, what did I do to him?

[plucky flax]

Become unsanctioned.

[marble crater]

Become an Agent of Chaos

[lethal lagoon]

That's cringe

[upper sun]

all slop for me too

[lethal lagoon]

[stiff falcon]

me want more 21 health on my zealot

[upper sun]

idk why i'm even checking i dont need anything

[lethal lagoon]

I think there's a fable about a guy always looking even though he'll never actually find his brain where he's looking.

[stiff falcon]

collecting trash from the shop every hour

[lethal lagoon]

You don't need anything? What if they buff LMB on staves.

Where's your trauma with Surge and Transfer peril.

[stiff falcon]

you always need shit

its why i collect now

[marble crater]

I have a void with Surge and can put Transfer Peril on that

[lethal lagoon]

If it doesn't induce horror in the lobby, it's not a real LMB staff.

That's why an LMB Surge needs run n gun

[marble crater]

Makes sense, that's also why it needs to be Trauma, because it's bad

[lethal lagoon]

Exactly

I'm showing fatshark that RMB is useless and needs a buff.

[marble crater]

I'm sure I have like 5 Traumas with run n gun in the inventory

[jovial juniper]

Nice, less spread

[limpid lodge]

its too bad it didnt also roll an 80% still a keeper tho until then

[ivory wharf]

you know what else is a keeper?

this beauty

[hardy raft]

crit sucks

[stiff falcon]

sell it

[honest robin]

blazing spirit trauma attained... now to never use it because im gonna have rending shockwave 4 before i bother with trauma

did this get nerfed i thought it was good but 3 stacks per crit seems bad

[ivory wharf]

1 shut up 2 didn't ask and dont care

[hardy raft]

blazing trauma has a very high scability i think, mostly cause trauma doesnt scale in any way other than grouped hordes

[honest robin]

why not just use a purgatus though...

[stiff falcon]

imagine not using blaze or rending on a trauma

[honest robin]

if it were 3 stacks on every blast it would be a different story i think

but psyker crits can get high but not thaaat high

[hardy raft]

stagger is better, and even with max 6stacks it controls the poxxers enough that the base trauma's problem of having hard time after the intial hit doesnt matter much

[stiff falcon]

trauma better

[honest robin]

for fire killing?

[hardy raft]

i dont think its better just built for different purposes

[stiff falcon]

for cc

[lethal lagoon]

imagine not using blaze

[honest robin]

i think the brittleness is the best option for actual practical play

gonna make the horde a lot more permeable

[hardy raft]

imo its easier to use cause of flurry

[stiff falcon]

couldn't be me

[honest robin]

flurry is also great

[hardy raft]

nexus spirit is p good combo either way

also no crit on there?

[lethal lagoon]

Yep rending is definitely better, buff blaze trauma NOW

[stiff falcon]

nope

[hardy raft]

wish the damn thing just scaled up to like 9, idk

[honest robin]

the crit perk seems really weak for being a perk

[hardy raft]

its def slow
better snowballing than the original trauma

[lethal lagoon]

Indeed, killing every non-elite isn't enough, buff now.

[hardy raft]

anyhoo

[bold cape]

only weapon i have crit chance on is blaze trauma

[hardy raft]

tbh im taking lacerate knife over trauma blaze at times

[stiff falcon]

lacerate

[hardy raft]

time to meme

[stiff falcon]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[bold cape]

i wanna try a knife zealot but i dont feel like rolling yet another weapon

[hardy raft]

dump pen for a while cause you have uncanny anyway most of the time

if you dont have high pen

[bold cape]

im assuming mk3 is better? i see it everywhere in builds over 6

[stiff falcon]

so broke

[stiff falcon]

yeah

[hardy raft]

mk3 has better combos and single target damage imho

mk6 has the stab pushattack and a cleaving heavy

its special-light stabby also has lower damage and cannot be spammed unlike mk3 idk why

[stiff falcon]

using special? nahh

[hardy raft]

i use it with my knife

[hardy raft]

im def broke

[lethal lagoon]

All the knife psykers I know switched to 6.

I'm not much of a knife psyker though

[bold cape]

this in melks, is it worth?

[stiff falcon]

no

[hardy raft]

that pen

on psyker?

[stiff falcon]

67 fin

rough

[hardy raft]

oh yeah saw that later finesse is p low

dammit melk

[bold cape]

its on psyker unfortunately

is mercy killer 4 worth

[hardy raft]

either extract mercy killer

or dont

[stiff falcon]

mercy is weak

[hardy raft]

mercy killer is only worth in like vet's hands p sure who can always bleed

precog gave me the funnies at the least and its on dodge

[bold cape]

ah alrighty

brutal momentum 4 psword in melks tho
def gonna grab that

[stiff falcon]

when uncannny gets nerfed precog will be meta

[hardy raft]

heh

wonder how its gonna be then

riposite precog or something

[stiff falcon]

precog got me a 17k single hit

[bold cape]

tho the difference between brutal momentum 3 and 4 probably doesnt even matter

[stiff falcon]

give me bromentum on knife

[hardy raft]

i think some people from here(korean community, not here) will still try to use lacerate

[stiff falcon]

lac is good if you arent above 50%

my knife zealot gets 100%

[bold cape]

melk selling an ogryn shovel with thrust 4

[hardy raft]

even when aiming for the head it can bleed out a lot for the side enemies which i think its why we use it the most

either way not siginificant

[bold cape]

so i can grab ogryn shovel thrust 4 or psword bromentum 4
probably thrust

[hardy raft]

thrust

its 15% damage increase

well power

compared to

2.5% wp damage

[bold cape]

yea lmao

[sacred crane]

Which do yall prefer, rending trauma or blaze trauma?

[scarlet timber]

Guys

What's the build on knife for psyker ?

[sacred crane]

ripose + flesh terror + flak/maniac/carapace

[potent echo]

No uncanny?

[tiny oracle]

other than columnus autogun, what are the other good options for gun psyker?

[potent echo]

Zarona

Heavy laspistol

Any of the autoguns are decent just not ciag level

You only avoid shredder autopistol

Just keep in mind the psyker doesn't have any suppression immunity outside of shield

[tiny oracle]

what would be the pros and cons of using laspistol or zarona?

just looking to vary up my playstyle a bit

[potent echo]

Zarona has crazy pierce and damage on crits

You are one shitting everything

You can shoot 8 shotgunners in one crit if their heads line up correctly

Heavy laspistol has high headshot/crit damage so it benefits alot from DD

Also it doesn't really care about suppression, so with the ghost blessing you can literally stand and shoot a whole room of reapers and gunners as long as you click heads

[sacred crane]

ima be fr and i fucking hate seeing this thrown around KNIFE ALREADY HAS GREAT ARMOR PEN

[potent echo]

Uncanny still makes the diff imo

You are 3 hitting crushers vs 5+

Without crits

[sacred crane]

Like I kill the crusher at the same speed without uncanny than with uncanny using knife

Like its not even needed

[spice veldt]

60% cara adm on normal hits (80% adm on crit)

[tiny oracle]

what blessings would i run with laspistol? seems interesting

[spice veldt]

i still find uncanny worth it since even with 80% that's still bumping your ADM to 120%

[potent echo]

Uncanny would be a 40% or 20% buff

[sacred crane]

dumdum, infernus or ghost or raking fire...there arent many blessings but dumdum is basically required

[tiny oracle]

uncanny just treats any armor as unarmored right? with max stacks

[spice veldt]

unarmoured usually is at 100% adm or whatever but that's a good enough interpretation of what it does

[potent echo]

But then I never run knife with psyker, I do uncanny riposte/precog with vet/zealot since they already have inbuilt bleed

[spice veldt]

A weapon has a base damage, and then it has armour damage modifiers (ADM) that affect the percentage of the base damage that it deals to a particular armour type (unarmoured, infested, flak, maniac, unyielding, carapace). E.g., the force swords have an ADM of 65% against carapace on heavy attacks. This means that it deals 65% of its base damage to carapace.
So, if a heavy attack deals 217 base damage, then that means it will do 217 * 0.65 = 141 damage to carapace.

+rending% will increase that armour damage modifier number additively. E.g., if your attack deals 65% damage to carapace currently, then +30% rending means that you'll do 95% damage to carapace now.

When you reach 100% ADM, then rending%'s effect is reduced to 1/4ths. E.g., if your attack already deals 100% ADM to carapace, then +40% rending means that the ADM will be 100% + 40% * 1/4 = 110%.

In addition, rending% itself is capped at 100%. Let's say that you have tier4 Uncanny Strike, which should give 120% rending at 5 stacks. However, you will only receive 100% rending from it at max.

[sacred crane]

Yes and no, they all take different damage but still considered unarmored

[sacred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

can you at least summarize

[potent echo]

Nuhuh

[spice veldt]

In summary,

1. When the attack's ADM is <100%, then rending% additively contributes to it.
2. If the attack's ADM is >100%, then rending% additively contributes to it at a reduced rate of 1/4ths.
3. Rending% itself has a hard cap at 100%. Any amount of rending% above that is useless.

the bulk of the paragraphs i posted is just examples anyways

since i figured that people aren't necessarily going to immediately what rending does without an example

more words, but faster understanding

[potent echo]

Uncanny knife one shots flak shotgunners but not dreg shotgunners

Absolute state of rending

[spice veldt]

truly one of the implementations of all time

they made it additive but kept the stupid high values that rending blessings gave

[sacred crane]

Knife is still usable asf without rendering because of its armor pen

[spice veldt]

yeah i'm not saying it's a bad weapon w/o uncanny

but i'd personally run uncanny on psyker since I have less average crit chance compared to zealot for deranged adm increases

[potent echo]

It's definitely usable, but uncanny is still a straight damage buff against most enemy types so it's still one of the best blessings

[tiny oracle]

what is the reason for running knife? mkiv dueling sword just feels so good i dont see why i would use any other melee

[potent echo]

Personally no I never use knife on psyker

Ds4 is just too good

And almost as fast

[spice veldt]

here are the relative improvements from uncanny strike so that we're on the same page

[tiny oracle]

i like knife zealot, but if zealots could use ds4 i dont think i would use knife on them either

[bold cape]

schmoovement

[spice veldt]

yeah zealot ds4 would be fucking nuts

my god

[potent echo]

Zealot ds4 lmao

[bold cape]

make it happen

[potent echo]

Impact blessings

Make crushers fly with the poke

[spice veldt]

big value from those talents

[tiny oracle]

i feel like they intentionally nerfed ds4 by putting it on the squishiest by far class

[bold cape]

yes they intentionally gave the squishiest class the best melee
to compensate
thats why itd be ridiculous on any other class

[spice veldt]

it would be fucking stupid on a class with proper melee buffs

[bold cape]

crit/atk speed build on the ds4

man

[spice veldt]

i did some quick maffs and duellist zealot w/ sustained (ignoring keystones) would probably be able to hit crusher oneshots w/ uncanny stacked and on a weakspot crit (and duellist)

[tiny oracle]

ds4 zealot, enemies no longer exist

[spice veldt]

gon

[stiff falcon]

I could do so many things with a ds4

One shotting bosses with the zealot abilities

[tiny oracle]

i dont think it would be that strong if they removed the cleave

then it would be more of a sacrifice your cleave for massive poke damage

[spice veldt]

i don't think it'd matter since zealot also has a flamethrower weapon to work with

and attack speed makes heavying bruisers more palatable

[tiny oracle]

ds4 at the current state is just best of both worlds

[stiff falcon]

Flame thrower knife is a decent combo

Knife mk2 las pistol better

[spice veldt]

and since ds4 is a finesse weapon w/ rather terrible cleave damage falloff, the cleave is whatevs

[tiny oracle]

i just wish ds5 has the same poke heavy attack

would be an amazing defencive option

[spice veldt]

monkey's paw: you get the ds2 heavy poke instead

[tiny oracle]

the extra dodge distance on ds5 feels so amazing

but no finesse stat so would be less damage

[potent echo]

Maybe with DD it's usable

[tiny oracle]

the problem is that the heavy is an overhead

the poke on ds4 is just so much better

[potent echo]

Yea.. somehow it's not as good this game

Or rather pokes are great because they adjusted the hitboxes on DT enemies

You won't awkwardly hit the body behind the head usually

And there's no giant shoulderpads that block the heads

[spice veldt]

the overhead is fine

[tiny oracle]

also what laspistol is better?

[spice veldt]

it just happens to deal ~40% less damage than ds4's heavies

[tiny oracle]

its not that the overhead is bad, its that the poke is just better

[spice veldt]

ds2's h1 has the exact same animation as the ds4 h1, but it similarly deals ~40% less damage for seemingly no reason

[potent echo]

Fatshark

Maybe next patch they will nerf ds4 to match the others

Then maybe I'll play knife psyker

[eager token]

wtf

ppl be asleep at they keyboards

[dusk void]

Sometimes, I really wanna punch the auric director in the face for running my 1.4K kills by losing the mission

[scarlet timber]

Thx

[cosmic sigil]

finally

[ornate hamlet]

Lighttide

[narrow herald]

for void do yall prefer Illisi or Deimos?

[potent echo]

Deimos for me

But I run Deimos whenever I can

[ornate hamlet]

gang

do empowered illussy kills count as warp kills for the purpose of soulstealer

[supple dock]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

that it rather large ty

[supple dock]

You go WOOSH then all your toughness is back

[ornate hamlet]

i was regening a suspicious amount of toughness by going ape on hordes and i had to check

[supple dock]

But be careful!

It's a fair amount of time to do when you have low toughness

[ornate hamlet]

how to make 100% peril not destroy my ears??

[narrow herald]

btw for gun psyker, do you need those "peril generation" nodes?

[ornate hamlet]

do i keep this or

gamble on this

[cunning yew]

There should be a peril volume slider in accesibility settings iirc

I just have turned off completly

[hardy raft]

wish ds5 was on zealot

[ornate hamlet]

wait... its not terrible, i im just too poor to switch to maniac rn

i play at high peril constantly

slaughterer would b nice but its not terrible

or is it better to switch one of the blessings for slaughter if/when i find it

[cosmic sigil]

I would go unstable to slaughterer

Uncanny 4 is a minor improvement

But that finesse is quite low tbh

[stone totem]

Barrier psykers are at least top 3 most chill kinds of players in this game

[untold niche]

@upper sun try reaver

fucking amazing game

there is free demo

[sacred crane]

it has been 2 months since i've seen barrier used

[hardy raft]

worse problem is the low finesse but it should fair you for now

[potent echo]

What's that?

[ornate hamlet]

finesse is crit crit/wp damage and attack speed right?

i'll miss the attack speed but idc too much about critds and headshots

i also primarily use the empowered hit

[hardy raft]

illisi crit is near like 2x p sure

so 3 times the damage

im noy sure tbh and you can check it in the v key(inspect weapon)

[ornate hamlet]

big, but i dont think it will make a noticeable difference

i can worry about a better weapon once crafting unsucks

[hardy raft]

for reference, this is for ds4

force swords are unique cause they have absurdly high finesse wp multiplier

[hardy raft]

and illisi is even uniquer

cause yknow

horizontal cleave

it should be fine but later get a better one i guess

[ornate hamlet]

im more worried about finding slaughterer rn

[hardy raft]

40% damage boost is def huge

[ornate hamlet]

i have crafted 20+ swords to blue and no slaughter

[hardy raft]

eh

i go for gold

cause usually the latter half gets the better level

usually

sometimes hadron gets funny

[ornate hamlet]

slaughter 1 of 2 blessings i havent got from hadron yet after like 25+ crafts

[upbeat wedge]

Brick or fixable?

[untold niche]

game like ultra kill

[wind spruce]

Unyielding flak are good modifiers

[upbeat wedge]

I've made one change and it was T4 Ghost to T3 Deadly Accurate

So far

[wind spruce]

Headhunter is often the other blessing choice

[upbeat wedge]

Which I don't have a roll of yet

Twas why I went with DA

[ornate hamlet]

30 or so crafts later

is uncanny strike 3 definitely better than unstable power 4

[rigid sky]

Yes*

Uncanny means you can kill Crushers

[upper sun]

on illisi?

[rigid sky]

No uncanny means you gotta swap

I mean my Illisi is slaughterer bloodthirsty

[upper sun]

what do you wanna use the sword for?

[bold cape]

my ilisi is slaughterer uncanny

[rigid sky]

I think slaughterer is probably the #1 pick for Illisi since you pair it with an armour cracker usually

[upper sun]

i have slaught/uncanny slaught/executor slaught/deflector and i think slaught/unstable

i kinda like slaught executor and slaught deflector best

[rigid sky]

But I'd rather uncanny than unstable

I don't like unstable so much

[upper sun]

better than exorcist

[rigid sky]

Better on Illisi than the other force swords though

[rigid sky]

Tbh so is e coli

[cunning yew]

Isnt the update at 25th supposed to rework crafting? Why bother wasting crafting resources now?

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

[rigid sky]

I have 20000 plasteel lmao

[upper sun]

nah they said maybe if they finish it on time

[rigid sky]

If I wanna play devil claw today I'll build it

[upper sun]

[ornate hamlet]

i use this mainly for hordeclear, I have void and ballburst for heavy armour usually

what am i swapping with slaughter

[bold cape]

id give advice but im not experienced enough with f swords to really say
but personally id replace unstable with slaughterer

[rigid sky]

Neither imo

I'd change the perk

[ornate hamlet]

could i suppose

i feel like slaughter would go further

[bold cape]

slaughterer is a must take for me
unstable is only active at high peril and i dont like managing peril with a melee weapon

[ornate hamlet]

i play at high peril often but its not always

[bold cape]

i dont mind edging peril with a staff but im not keen on doing it in melee

[rigid sky]

Special gives you a bunch already

I'd say it's preference

[ornate hamlet]

i run shriek and warp syphon

so i can edge harder

🙏

[bold cape]

real

[ornate hamlet]

what are the important stats on void staff

or what can i care about less

[potent echo]

Charge rate is meh

Blast radius also meh

You mainly just want damage, with roughly translates to needing less DD stacks to oneshot some elites

[rigid sky]

Perks and blessings too

If you get Carapace nexus surge you can oneshot crushers

Quite reliably

[plucky flax]

I have slaughterer deflector on my illisi.

[rigid sky]

Both of my Illisis are Assail with either Void or gun so enemy shooters aren't a thing

Wait no that's false

One is Surge smite and that does get peppered a bit

But I make space for others to clean shooters anyway

And the toughness gain on that build is silly

[plucky flax]

Surge can kill shooters.

Illisi surge smite build I use illisi against horde.

If people don't want to melee I can get 400+ chaffs kills.

Don't need any other power blessing other than slaughterer.

[rigid sky]

Either way I don't seem to ever be in a deflector value situation

My purgatus and trauma builds do sometimes

Lucky for me my deimos is deflector lol

[upper sun]

thats the curse of deflector

when you need it you dont have it when you have it you dont need it

[marble crater]

Just git gut, then you never need it

[upper sun]

i only run it on purge

[potent echo]

If you have it, it makes you want to use it when you actually don't need to

[marble crater]

Though I did have a few situations this week where deflector would have saved me, too bad I was using a DS4

[plucky flax]

Yeah too many times I bring my ds/knife up to block bullets and get shot.

Deflector also let me solo meme clutch easier.

Unsanctioned clutch.

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

imagine you clutch a mission save everyone and get to the end just to get shot by rannick for being unsanctioned

[upper sun]

btw ogryn set is nice

[marble crater]

Good, because the previous one wasn't

[sacred crane]

deflector is just an all round good perk and acts like a mini-shield for psyker, A tier blessing

[ornate hamlet]

do ppl think kinetic or seers presence is better

[sacred crane]

seers

[ornate hamlet]

epicstyle

[marble crater]

If I had more load outs I would copy all of mine and make one with seers and one with kinetic for the games with 2 psykers on the team

[hearty oak]

Depends. I just like kinetic for more damage on purge. Maybe could swap it out on my voidstrike just because it does immense amounts of damage anyways

[bold cape]

personally id run every build with seers
10% cdr is just about the highest value aura apart from survivalist imo

[ornate hamlet]

understood

[bold cape]

and you get access to both one with the warp + emphatic evasion

which are both very good

[ornate hamlet]

i take one with the warp anyway

cos i love edging

[bold cape]

[hearty oak]

Is anticipation still not working?

[ornate hamlet]

whats that

[hearty oak]

Extra dodge and it lasts longer

[plucky flax]

[hardy raft]

gunpsyker here i use slaughterer uncanny

[rigid sky]

I think for gunker you need uncanny on it

[hardy raft]

even for not the armor damage pierce is nice tbh

usually doesnt mean a lot on flak and maniac but every bit helps

[rigid sky]

But other specs can kill armour with their staff or blitz

So you can take a different boost instead

Idk I swapped to DS4 on my gunker and never looked back

[hardy raft]

ds4 kinda sucks for

hordes

[rigid sky]

Not with DD and SG up

That's what pushed it over the line for me

It almost competes with Illisi at that point which is crazy

Illisi has better than expected mutant kills with DD/SG but it still doesn't instagib crushers

But DS4 on gunker is universally strong

[ornate hamlet]

what are the other force sword specials

[rigid sky]

Deimos and Obscurus both do the same thing

High damage, high armour piercing, sticky strike

[plucky flax]

With rampage it's okay. Not amazing like illisi but better than deimos and obscures.

[rigid sky]

Basically like a chainsword

[marble crater]

They are kind of like revs from chain weapons