psyker-class

[wind spruce]

BB is fine with kinetic resonance

[karmic finch]

Warp siphon bubble builds are also great fun

[wind spruce]

It's been buffed like four times since patch 13

[karmic finch]

But again, kinetic resonance is a crutch

Make the base ability good ffs

I shouldn't need to take a specific keystone to make my blitz good

Or use my combat ability to make my blitz good

The gap between unbuffed BB and buffed (by KR or EP) it far far too large.

"BB with X feels good" is just a stark admission that base BB is utter garbage.

And that's what needs addressing

[rigid sky]

I sometimes use BR without any boosts on it

feels bad but still does its job

[karmic finch]

Imagine if ogryn big boom had 40% radius if you didn't taunt first, or use overdrive and put that on its gargantuan cooldown

[rigid sky]

Well ogryn grenade is a limited resource

[karmic finch]

A blitz shouldn't only feel good with a capstone

[rigid sky]

Brain rupture only costs time

additionally EP smite is fun and I don't care what anybody says

[karmic finch]

The capstone is about making the blitz better, and it's in a really good place for smite now, assail doesn't gain a huge amount but it's still good. But both of those work great on their own. Smite turns from cc into cc and decent damage (after 2 buffs)

[rigid sky]

(but yes DD is the best if your weapon supports it)

[karmic finch]

But for BB it doesn't feel like it makes the blitz better

it feels like it makes the blitz a blitz...

[rigid sky]

It makes it into a full weapon I would say

rather than a situational tool

there's rooms on my blaze trauma build where I basically just repeatedly shield up and then brain rupture spam gunners

it's like a zarona I don't have to reload at that point

[radiant frigate]

i see psyker chat is having a normal one today

[hearty oak]

Yes we all know that creeping flames will always be better. Its just for purge, i can kind of see it having some use. I never noticed though with the fire damage unless its a melee only maelstrom

[karmic finch]

But only against elites, because kill too many non elites with your "full weapon' and you're back to slow head pops, yay.

Or use your ability to prop up your blitz...

[rigid sky]

I mean I'm just gonna staff LMB the grunts anyway

or something

specials and bosses, eh

[karmic finch]

Again, base BB needs buffs, and the amount EP and KR boost it need tuning down (they can still boost damage or whatever)

[rigid sky]

I can use my charges up on those, it's fine

Maybe yeah

take 0.5s of the charge time away from the basic version

or something

0.25s away even

idk

[radiant frigate]

lot of BB slander going around

i agree that base bb should not be so slow but saying it is bad is just cope

[karmic finch]

BB with boosts is amazing, BB without boosts is the tool purge staff users need to kill bombers and snipers.

[marble crater]

BB is a great tool in your build, love it on Blaze Trauma to snipe specials and gunners that run behind cover

[karmic finch]

It's useful sure, for one specific use case that only one staff suffers from

[upper sun]

AAAAAA LETS FUCKING GOOO

[upper sun]

or u can just lmb spam them

[marble crater]

T3 slaughterer

[upper sun]

i will steal ur mailbox

[marble crater]

Sometimes I do, but killing them with BB while turning around and walking towards your team is cooler

[upper sun]

ye and precharging it when you hear a trapper is so fun

[karmic finch]

And don't get me started on the "elite kills with BB at max warp charge" penance, which is basically just self flagellation as you must use the slow AF base cast time.

[marble crater]

Most of the time I precharge the enemy doesn't come and I am left standing there like an idiot

[karmic finch]

Most of my hatred for BB comes from getting that penance

[marble crater]

Worse yet when you are the only one who heard it and your team is looking at you like you are stupid

[karmic finch]

(and again, boosted BB is fine, I just wish base wasn't so garbage)

[rigid sky]

I mean that penance is dogshit lol

it's a holdover from the old warp charge design

it actually made sense to get back then but in post-13 psyker it should really be fundamentally altered

like, use your ability x times at max warp charges, if you wanna make it consistent with other keystone penances

or use your brain burst to kill x elites and specials without warp charges being a part of it, if you want it to be consistent with other blitz penances

[upper sun]

FINALLY an executor deimos

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

I am now done with force swords

[marble crater]

Congratz, now do staves

[upper sun]

im done with all staves except surge

[hardy raft]

executor good on deimos?

i know about the uh

[upper sun]

i just wanted one for the special attack interaction

[hardy raft]

special registering as separate and insta-4stack

yeah that

[wind spruce]

But that's true of other blitzes

[hardy raft]

seems funny but not the best practical one so wanted to ask

[wind spruce]

Assail without any of its modifiers is shit

[upper sun]

ye but i also have a deimos of ultimate defence

[hardy raft]

i wish i have deflector 4

[karmic finch]

No it isn't.

[hardy raft]

i have deflector 2 on my 500- deimos

[upper sun]

deflector 4 is not that much of an upgrade

[hardy raft]

i know but still...

[karmic finch]

Name one other blitz, in the whole game, that feels bad without other points, and then good with them.

Smoke feels bad whether you have perks or not before you mention that one lol.

[hardy raft]

only blitz that takes points are psykers

[wind spruce]

I literally just named one

[hearty oak]

But... it's perfection I must achieve

[wind spruce]

30s ago

[upper sun]

you just need a deimos of ultimate defence....

i get it

[hardy raft]

i guess grenade tinkerer counts as a blitz upgrade

[karmic finch]

Assail has it's supplementary nodes

[wind spruce]

WHAT

[karmic finch]

Which I'm not really counting

[wind spruce]

..........

[hardy raft]

ogay

[karmic finch]

Doesn't need your combat ability usage, doesn't need to be upgraded with a capstone

[upper sun]

look at how perfect this is

[hardy raft]

mmm that uncany it hurts

[wind spruce]

Base BB could use a slight charge time decrease

[karmic finch]

Even without those swapping to assail and pew pew pew then swap back still feels fine

[wind spruce]

And nerf KR/EP charge time reduction in return

[hardy raft]

bb should get general cast time decrease

[wind spruce]

I'll take it because that's a straight buff to my favourite build (BB gunker that rarely uses BB)

[hardy raft]

even with EP it sometimes feels slow for some reason

[wind spruce]

Probably because it's slower than KR Brain burst

[hardy raft]

i use a very funny KR EP BB with Gaze gunker

nevermind the fact that spamming collumnus is gonna be faster than whatever BB does here

but it still feels slow

even though i can like, full auto BB

[wind spruce]

https://youtu.be/d5K_aXhA2Vc

2nd upload, 200k boss damage VEG

[sacred crane]

I like knife on gunker

[rigid sky]

Knife is just generically great tbh

[wind spruce]

I was testing out riposte & flesh teaser and did like 40k bleed out of 175k melee

Surprising

Flesh teaser... lmao

[sacred crane]

I use it on gunker sometimes for the mobility while still have good armor pierce and attack speed

[rigid sky]

You'd have to pry my DS4 out of gunker's cold dead hands though

[sacred crane]

Ds4 is a great option

[sacred crane]

That is what you would expect out of flesh tearer + riposte

[wind spruce]

And yet it's not always that much

I just got 16k out of 150k

[wind spruce]

Ds4 is just better, but I've played so many hours on it haha

[wind spruce]

40k out of 175k is the largest percentage I've gotten

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i swapped to knife mainly because i used ds4 enough

I do like ds2 from time to time

[near wyvern]

Mk 6 knife for life

[sacred crane]

Now lets talk about the tac axe

[marble crater]

76

[wind spruce]

Tac axe is fun af

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like I'm the only person in the discord who thinks axes are meh

[wind spruce]

They aren't good

But they are fun

[sacred crane]

They feel great to kill with

[marble crater]

Two more days for my devblog prediction to be correct

[wind spruce]

What's your prediction? Just that there'll be one?

[marble crater]

Yes

[sacred crane]

Hopefully they give us a showcase of the upcoming weapons

[marble crater]

I just want to see the crafting devblog to know what to expect, someone from the team did say to keep our bricked weapons, so I am hopeful

[sacred crane]

I am doubtful of a crafting update

[marble crater]

Doubtful about what exactly?

[wind spruce]

Yeah I doubt it'll be on the 25th

But it will come

[sacred crane]

That a crafting update will happen on the next update

[marble crater]

That's okay, they said it might not be then, but that we will get a devblog soon. Even though that releasing the update alongside the new weapons would be very nice obviously

[wind spruce]

I'm already happy with the update

Bc twelve days until psyker gets shotguns

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[marble crater]

SGunker

[wind spruce]

I want to be able to put bleed, warpfire and burn on a target

[marble crater]

With the same class?

[wind spruce]

Yiiis. One of the shotguns can apply burn can't it?

[hardy raft]

im killing someone if it doesnt come out in next 24 hours

(assisaniation boss)

[stoic vessel]

is gun psyker top dps now seem to see alot of them running around

[lethal lagoon]

That's actually more of my problem. They don't feel like axes. They are the one weapon where I feel like they dropped the ball.

But I'm alone on no-axe island

[fleet belfry]

guys what do, I assume I'll be keeping the +20% carapace and switching the crit chance to something else (not entirely sure but this seems the way to go), but for blessings do I keep it as is, change uncanny to IV or maybe change riposte to deflector or something?

[hardy raft]

think they're above vets at this point tbh

[brittle sparrow]

Okay guys i need ideas. Gaze + autogun build

[wind spruce]

If you have the am.o to burn, yeah

[fleet belfry]

good ones or funny ones

[brittle sparrow]

Brain buster?

[wind spruce]

https://youtu.be/d5K_aXhA2Vc?si=U63YdoR2bnLIUOua

[wind spruce]

You can take assail if ya want

[brittle sparrow]

Wouldn't smite be better if i run out of am- welp nvm

XD

Assail is funzies for quick horde clear

[wind spruce]

You could take smite, it isn't great without warp charges or ep tho

[brittle sparrow]

Smite always seemed more just straight up support

Hmm

True

[wind spruce]

I take brain burst for long range stuffs

But I don't use it much

[lethal lagoon]

There is no support..

[brittle sparrow]

Hey Support psyker is fun

Smite for hordes, front shield to stop specials

Dmg buff and stick close to team

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

I'd rather just have a psyker that does more than 1/3 of my damage

"Why are we losing?! Oh because we're 10 mins in and the support psyker has done 50k"

[eager horizon]

I think smite could use a tweakin'. Maybe make it stronger but shorter? Same for Zealot's Choir ult. Doing nothing for extended periods of time isn't that fun.

Support abilities like that should either be stuff you throw out *while * fighting (The shields, for example), or otherwise really short but impactful. This is why Field Improv is my favorite support talent, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[lethal lagoon]

If a smite bubbler is doing 1/3rd of your damage I think you need to up your game

[wind spruce]

Goddamn

[rigid sky]

@brittle sparrow the 15 toughness node can be flexed a few places

[eager horizon]

Flayed alive, roasted and served with a side salad

[wind spruce]

@lethal lagoon I was ep smiting today because of your yapping

Fook it's strong

[rigid sky]

Warp speed, warp expenditure being the other two options

[rigid sky]

Makes Purgatus feel a bit poop right

[wind spruce]

Much better than warp charges smite

[zinc phoenix]

Ayy

[wind spruce]

Purg doesn't need help feeling poop let's be honest

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma bubble assail has been my jam lately. Dumping bubble on morons to forcibly heal their toughness and keep them alive despite their best efforts is entertaining

[rigid sky]

It hurts because it's true

[rigid sky]

Trauma bubble BR is my thing, very similar but I love the precision and power of EP BR with the positioning safety of bubble

[zinc phoenix]

Assail reasonably good for bopping the gunner mobs and speedy trauma denies the crushers

Idk I really just use bubble as a “Jesus Christ you really are a dumbass” button

[marble crater]

Crit chance to maniac, riposte you can keep if you want, or switch to deflector or slaughterer, depends on how you use it

[wind spruce]

I be loving trauma and assail, but running it with CF and EP

Lots of the benefit of blaze trauma plus the ability to absolutely nuke gunner and rager packs and control specials with asssail

[fleet belfry]

Thanks, do you think uncanny 3 is good enough or is there sufficient gains to switch to uncanny 4

[cobalt yoke]

Support psyker with the old smite bug was funky

[brittle sparrow]

I like helping newbies on lower lvls

Stun up those hordes so they have easier time

Block specials from charging so they have time to react

[wind spruce]

The main difference is that you'll have slightly less damage at stacks 1, 2, 3 and 4. At max stacks it's single digits difference

[marble crater]

Uncanny 3 is good enough, rather change the second blessing to fit your playstyle, unless riposte is your playstyle then upgrade uncanny I guess

But it's good to have that second blessing be flexible if you want to try different things

[brittle sparrow]

Watch them plonk a crusher for half an hour

:T

[radiant frigate]

💀

[hybrid yoke]

Good evening. Please help me understand such atonement, or repentance, for a Psyker as "Harmful concentration". The description says "Kill enemies (40) while under the action of a single charge of the "Skreer's Gaze"".

How do I complete it? Killing with ordinary weapons, abilities? And ordinary enemies, or some elite ones? What does one charge mean?

And then sometimes I turn on this blitz "Skreer's Gaze". I take out my machine gun and shoot the crowd. Repentance is still not counted.

For the whole round?

[wind spruce]

I got mine just by meleeing a poxwalker horde with scriers gaze up

You can also try purgatus staff

[hybrid yoke]

I managed to score 39 out of 40 kills. Nothing else. I'm having a panic attack XD

[wind spruce]

It has low peril generation, so start flaming a big horde and pop scriers

[wind spruce]

So close! Just keep at it homie

[hybrid yoke]

And if by lightning?

[lunar hollow]

i got it by detonating a poxburster in the horde half way through a scriers activation

which was p funny

[wind spruce]

Purgatus is the flame staff. So pop scriers, set a horde on fire, and then keep quelling so you don't hit 100% peril (which causes scriers gaze to end)

As someone else said, make sure to take the modifier for scriers gaze that reduces peril gained

[hybrid yoke]

Understood, thanks to everyone for the hint. It means building a new build for the sake of receiving redemption.

[marble crater]

Also take Battle Meditation in the middle at the top

[wind spruce]

You could take a bunch of peril reduction nodes from the rest of the tree, too, but it's probably not necessary

[hybrid yoke]

To me, it's a sin not to explode at the third difficulty level of a mission in order to receive redemption.

[rigid sky]

I hate the Scrier's Gaze achievement

You have to take the shitty version of it

[rigid sky]

At max stacks, uncanny 4 goes over the 100 rending cap anyway so it should be equal

[rigid sky]

It's a great anti-gunner tool tbh. They will bring it down but not before you can brain pop 3-4 of them

Just aim the bb at the cracks in the shield lol

[hybrid yoke]

I flew to perform. Good luck.

[thorn cedar]

does anything other than flak hit bps on trauma

[lyric burrow]

Unsure, BP calc doesnt have trauma rmb either

Possibly cara gets something

[lunar hollow]

i think (not super confident, do not play trauma much) maniac can get you something on either trappers or flamers

[lyric burrow]

On yeah probably

[lethal lagoon]

I hate when weapons roll aggressively "okay".

Cause I should be grateful, but "perfect" tier 3 rolls still bug the fuck out of me

[stiff falcon]

Carapace riposte and that’s a solid sword

[lethal lagoon]

It almost makes it worse than a brick

Because there's a "what could have been"

[marble crater]

Same, you know it's great but at the same time it's sad too

[upper sun]

crafting update will fix it

[stiff falcon]

I think I have t3 on mine

[stiff falcon]

[marble crater]

Yes, update will fix it

[stiff falcon]

If there is one

[lethal lagoon]

Update will literally fix world hunger

[upper sun]

yeah and bring world peace

just two more months

[marble crater]

There will be one, just a matter of 25th or later

[stiff falcon]

Itemisation

Crafting could be left out

Ideal would be 3rd change or reds

[upper sun]

i want 16 cheese burgers

[tired estuary]

lets have reds so that the balance discussions get absolutely unhinged

[stiff falcon]

The amount of stupid shit I could make

[upper sun]

id be okay with just 3 perks 2 blessings

[stiff falcon]

Uncanny riposte flesh tearer knife

[upper sun]

i want a deimos with sprint block stamina and deflector

[stiff falcon]

Carapace maniac and flak

[lyric burrow]

I do get that although at least for like uncanny its really w/e in terms of difference

[upper sun]

a surge with flak maniac elite 😻

[stiff falcon]

Trauma with rend and soul blaze

[upper sun]

void with crit chance crit damage and weakspot

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

While they do call it Itemization they also said that it will reduce a lot of the randomness we have right now when getting gear. To me itemization includes getting the weapon bases and then also upgrading them

[stiff falcon]

I don't trust them

[marble crater]

[stiff falcon]

Fatshark is fatshark

[upper sun]

delete it

[lethal lagoon]

Hadron is going to brick that so hard you'll lose 3 IQ points.

[upper sun]

seeing it brick would brick my heart

[lethal lagoon]

Noooooo

I wanna see the pain and angish

[marble crater]

Man, these twitter hints would have been a lot better if we didn't already know what they are for

[plucky flax]

That's a fairly good base! Not triple 80 damage stats but close.

[lethal lagoon]

What a nice weapon. It's of course nothing like my triple 80 base with perfect rolls, but you are doing good kiddo.

[upper sun]

imagine the cms having to sacrifice several goats to the chaos gods just to be allowed to tweet 1 emoji

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

We can sacrifice a certain unsanctioned psyker instead

[plucky flax]

Don't hate when you can't just craft as good as me.

[upper sun]

its strange why is that psyker not already sacrificed

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

So unsacntioned daddy tzeentch blessed him with an uber blaze trauma stick.

[upper sun]

[plucky flax]

Reject embrah. Embrace warp god.

[upper sun]

how heretical

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

after one brick of the new weapon i foresee someone renaming to ReallySanctionedPsykerIloveBigE69

[plucky flax]

When I get to play new weapons maybe crafting update is out.

And it's easy to make good stuff.

Until then, antartica laaaand.

f

You can upgrade again and pray for good 2nd blessing. Then settle with elites + flak and something.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/press-f-pay-respect-coffin-burial-gif-12855021

[upper sun]

really autistic play testershelped balance the weapons so maybe all their blessings are balanced

i told you to not post it smh

[plucky flax]

Pray for nexus 4 or blazing spirits 3 as 2nd blessing I guess.

Yes don't try to craft blaze trauma.

You will only end with disappointment.

[upper sun]

worked for me twice

on my first time trying

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1214727287845552138/f6a89e6cfe8ab3fa06a75526f879decb.jpg

oh nooo my non existant dog

😨 DONT ROLL IT

DO NOT

[marble crater]

Roll it, do it!

[karmic finch]

Oh my goodness

It's perfect

[marble crater]

For now

Are we doing that now, yes?

[karmic finch]

Oh no

[upper sun]

i told you not to roll it

[marble crater]

Update will fix it

[karmic finch]

Also if you get a terrible perk as the first roll bump it up to tier 4 (still one you don't like)

Slightly higher power when rolling for the blessing

Don't swap it to a perk you want as you'll block the perk from rolling in the 2nd spot

Very plasteel intensive way of crafting but if you're starting with a base that good may as well give it all the chances

[upper sun]

tbh i mentally tuned out of crafting after i got reload 2 on a 380 bolter

if it bricks it bricks i now have all the gear i want just missing some meme builds

[hearty oak]

Hope you kept it.

[upper sun]

ofc i am nothing if not a hopeful idiot

[hearty oak]

We'll see how useful the crafting update is

[plucky flax]

Crafting update not coming next new weapons patch right?

[upper sun]

they gave us a maybe if its done

[lethal lagoon]

What wat?

I thought it was explictly next patch

FUCK

[lunar hollow]

depends how its received by playtesters afaik

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Playtesters.

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

More like biastesters.

[lethal lagoon]

That's not really a zinger.

[plucky flax]

They need a psyker playtester.

Real psyker, not part timer.

(Buff blaze trauma and make blazing spirits t4)

Although other people think surge is bad so it might just get buffs yet.

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite now does 300% damage

[cinder moon]

[marble crater]

No, they clearly said maybe, if it's ready.

[lethal lagoon]

Your on xbox, you can't see anything clearly from your couch

You know what, I kinda wanna try playing darktide, big sceen controller now.

Some real old couch co-op

[marble crater]

I don't play on a big screen or from my couch

[lethal lagoon]

Fake xbox player

[marble crater]

[hearty oak]

You will never get your years from halo 3 coop back ||||

[lethal lagoon]

"Accidentally" screwing up on the warthog run so you and the boys can do it one last time

[upper sun]

were too old for that

if you wanna be one of those controller fps people you gotta start young

[lethal lagoon]

I grew up on controller

[upper sun]

that must have been uncomfortable

[lethal lagoon]

You get used to the joysticks

[balmy flax]

biiiiiiig

[lethal lagoon]

Still too small for these hands

[hybrid yoke]

So I took the achievement that I was suffering about. I took the Columnus machine gun, used steam on the damag and squeezed it into the horde. In total, two stores were gone.

stores...translate...

[lethal lagoon]

Clips or mags

[hybrid yoke]

yes, sorry

[thorn cedar]

an entire grocery of ammo

[lethal lagoon]

Nah I don't mind, you just said "translate" so I hopped in.

[upper sun]

pretty sure implying theyre the same is a crime in america

[balmy flax]

Still waiting for a gaming mouse thats not for puny southerner hand.
Any day now.

[lethal lagoon]

Did you try out a hero?

But yeah, I'd love the hero if it was like 20% bigger.

[balmy flax]

Logitech G502 current. But is smol. They said big.

[lethal lagoon]

It took me forever to find aviatar's that didn't look like lil spectacles

[marble crater]

Don't let Moistcritical see this

[lethal lagoon]

😨

[balmy flax]

Huh, run a few games with EP assail / deathclaw mk1 / sérge staff.
Pretty damn fun build, not really powerful but feels like a swiss army knife you have so many options xD
Think ill stick with it for a while.

[lethal lagoon]

[patent wing]

no boss dmg

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not a huge fan of assial surge

Aren't devilclaws boss damage?

[balmy flax]

Wong.
Has sérge.

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is also decent boss damage

yeah

[patent wing]

surge and boss dmg kekekekeke

are u guys drunk

[lethal lagoon]

40-50 rmbs will kill a boss with 0 aiming, effort, or risk

Like sure if you are the last one alive it's not ideal

But in a team setting you'll often get 1st or 2nd boss damage

[next pine]

hell to the yeah; the motherfucking DOOK

[patent wing]

slow ass charged ball and fast bosses, cant even aim for the head

risk that you miss is to high

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is the staff numnuts

Wait does "Serge" mean void?

Am I the numnuts?

[patent wing]

theres only 1 staff that has boss dmg and this is purgatus and surge staff only vs beast of nurgle

[balmy flax]

Whats the qualifier for boss damage now?
Krakspam and Thammer stealthzealots?

Sérge is pretty average imo, safe and reliable. Does noticeable damage but nothing special.

[patent wing]

ah lol yeah mb

my mind thought serge = void

[lethal lagoon]

Why do people think purg is good boss damage? Have they actually soloed bosses in the psych?

[balmy flax]

https://tenor.com/view/baguette-baugette-gif-19324932

Sérge is surge

[patent wing]

still surge staff is only good vs bon, its just not totally bad vs other bosses

[next pine]

The boss/assassinations take so much damage from a warp-charged power attack when their shields are down; like.. 30% of their health just disappears.

[lethal lagoon]

Because I have, and purg is crap boss damage

[patent wing]

because you can stack a charge + add venting shriek stacks

[lethal lagoon]

Yep, with that.

[patent wing]

and that hurts

[lethal lagoon]

Seriously, solo a boss in the psych.

[patent wing]

i do

[lethal lagoon]

Purg is not good boss damage

[balmy flax]

I do like purgatus when you can hit boss + horde at the same time though, feels like good value.

[patent wing]

the thing is that you can switch to blitz or melee in the meantime

[balmy flax]

le DUKE

[patent wing]

and with shriek the dmg is gud

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

i've also been asking the same thing

BB is stil king

[rigid sky]

BB is good

You know what's better?

Purg+shriek+BB

Standard mmo logic

On a boss, stack your DoTs then drop your nukes

[marble crater]

Just use a gun

[next pine]

pre-spec psykers were mostly this.

[rigid sky]

Gun is obviously the best for bosses

But if you do bring a purgatus because that's what you wanna play

Best doctrine is purgatus to 15, Shriek, BB until Blaze starts to fall off

[hearty oak]

Slow roasting a boss isn't enough. So you have to send horrible memes flashing in their minds from ifunny with the watermark

[upper sun]

man i played a game with 3 psykers

all BB

i was the only one bursting the boss

[marble crater]

[hearty oak]

Everytime

[marble crater]

Meanwhile my game with 3 ogryns

[bold cape]

best game so far is 4 shout vets in an auric mael
i dont think a single person went under half health or got downed once

[marble crater]

I like 4 psykers, you never know how it will go when you load in, either the easiest mission in your life or you fail in the first room

[cosmic sigil]

4 ogryns is nuts too

[bold cape]

4 ogryns is fun as hell

[supple dock]

3 psykers? always lose. 4? never lose

[limpid lodge]

4 psykers i wouldnt trust too much peril management

ya but when all 4 are at the edge and if they all get tipped over its a wipe lol

i say this as someone who has had a game with 3

If im caffeinated and g2g im fine but even I sometimes pop when I know i shouldve quelled but couldnt just due to the ai spawning more then we could handle

[paper harbor]

Psyche

[limpid lodge]

peril management tho takes a few rounds to sorta get into sync with before you can push it to the limit

[upper sun]

jumping from staff to staff can be a bitch because of that sometimes

anything to surge = boom

[marble crater]

Sounds like a skill issue

[upper sun]

im just old and stuck in my ways

[marble crater]

With shriek in every build, you will never go boom

[upper sun]

i blew up at .1s once 😭

[limpid lodge]

you cant always bring venting shriek tho

[upper sun]

went through the vent animation but still died

[marble crater]

(me going boom yesterday, because my shriek was off cooldown half a second too late)

[upper sun]

shriek goes with everything

[limpid lodge]

sometimes you want the barrier walls to stop the ogryn rush of 5

[upper sun]

i only bring bubble in vent purge

[limpid lodge]

bubble to me just makes everyone a bad player

you tend to rely on it too much

at least i did

[marble crater]

That's why I stopped using it and deflector

[limpid lodge]

its better to work on dodges and the map for cover

instead of a get out of jail free ability

its when you move onto auric you realize how little it helps

[ornate hamlet]

i dont use shield cos ima selfish bitch

[marble crater]

If you kill all ranged with shriek, you don't need a shield to protect you from ranged

[upper sun]

bruh

i could have made it if something didnt kick me 😭

[limpid lodge]

the range are not the problem tho its when you have 5-8 plague ogryns rushing your team

[ornate hamlet]

what

[marble crater]

now imagine something like that ends your 9/10 streak

[upper sun]

im not trying for that shit

[ornate hamlet]

id win

[karmic finch]

Bubble is an amazing toughness regen ability, and good Vs snipers.

Very bad Vs gunners in high difficulties because it melts so fast if you place it in the open.

And if you don't place it in the open then you have cover to use anyway...

I also just run shriek on most builds though lol

[limpid lodge]

i know but venting for the pushback and soulburn stacks is almost better

[karmic finch]

Venting shriek on surge staff is so nice

[limpid lodge]

but if im asking to bring the shield i like the wall better for the rush patrol

it ultimately just depends on what the iteration of the map we are playing on i guess

[karmic finch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-nose-poweroff-goodnight-gif-3154708980115706264

Psyker has access to ds4, so you can just one tap mutants anyway.

(above is an accurate portrayal of ds4 Vs mutants)

[limpid lodge]

been trying to use scryers more lately as I know it can be good on more then just a gunpsyker

[paper harbor]

Gunker hunker

[quartz barn]

how is bubble bad on higher difficulties?

[limpid lodge]

it doesnt last long enough to make a difference and keeps your team huddled together

[quartz barn]

besides if you have abil regen on elite/special kill you can have multiple up at the same time

[limpid lodge]

being huddled together when a 4 poxbursters rush ya is bad

[quartz barn]

not if you just push them

[limpid lodge]

ok go use it on auric and see how good it is yourself

[hardy raft]

wasnt bubble have a grace period where it cannot be popped

for like 6 seconds

[quartz barn]

or shoot them while they're far away

wdym lol i only play auric

main build is ds4, void with bubble

[limpid lodge]

void is great but not bubble

[hardy raft]

also its definitely good, makes pox gas just a very wierd smoke that throws off toughness instead of nuking your health with corrouption

[quartz barn]

bubble usually hard carries the run

[hardy raft]

idk how to feel about the wall one but ive seen people use it well to resist mutie swarms

[limpid lodge]

its a handicap

[quartz barn]

wall is ass

[limpid lodge]

the wall is the better choice

no its not

[quartz barn]

• if you dodge while bubble is up it still staggers

[limpid lodge]

wall hands down is the better iteration when you have mutants charging

to stop them and your team can kill them fast enough

[quartz barn]

team?

you should oneshot them with ds4

you can even stand still and clear a mutant wave by yourself

also not what bubble is used for i guess

[hardy raft]

tbh muties are ass in high shok where they spawn in 3

"you dont need maniac, muties arent that common" AI director sending 3 mutie groups every 30 second to the team's location:

[quartz barn]

i mean flak is best because most enemies have it

followed by either carapace or maniac

[hardy raft]

carapace is like on 2

[limpid lodge]

again like i said before the shield dome is a handicap you gotta stop using it makes your team not ahve to make better plays

[ornate hamlet]

WAIT

[limpid lodge]

and there are situations where it is a bad choice

[hardy raft]

id say flak>maniac>unarmored>carapace/unyielding imho

[ornate hamlet]

ur the guy that was mad on steam discussions that people under level 30 were joining regular damnation

[hardy raft]

l m f a o

[quartz barn]

uhh

nice

also how does this argument make any sense

bubble is handicap because it makes teammates worse

what

[ornate hamlet]

just use whatever you have the most fun with tbh

[quartz barn]

teammates are bad regardless but thats besides the point

[plucky flax]

I get top monster damage every time with surge staff.

[ornate hamlet]

should i install scoreboard y/n

[quartz barn]

might as well

[stiff falcon]

Your Rashad build is fun

[plucky flax]

Stealth loner martyrdom?

It's my most op zealot build you can't lose with it.

Clutching made ez.

[stiff falcon]

Yeah, heresy carry

[plucky flax]

[stiff falcon]

Didn’t even try

[hardy raft]

still have zero idea how to do extended scoreboard

[quartz barn]

you mean ovenproof?

[plucky flax]

At heresy you probably 2 shots all elites apart from ogryns lol.

[quartz barn]

because thats a seperate mod

[cosmic sigil]

ahaha reddit

[quartz barn]

hm twin emblem isnt as flex as it used to be sadge

[stiff falcon]

No emblem

No title

[ornate hamlet]

whats the one on the left

[stiff falcon]

No cosmetics

100 aurics

Not a flex

[ornate hamlet]

i want the titles cos i like orange and purple colours lol

[hardy raft]

yea

[cosmic sigil]

hard mode is still nice

[quartz barn]

i guess

[stiff falcon]

I genuinely think they should reset auric exemplar and storm survivor, and make any run with a disconnect not count

[quartz barn]

after the ai director fix it isnt the same 😦

[stiff falcon]

“Fix”

[cosmic sigil]

???

wdym?

[stiff falcon]

They broke spawns again

[cosmic sigil]

i got mine in the first week of the event

[quartz barn]

before the ai director, the engine that spawns elites and specials etc, spawned way more enemies than normal

[cosmic sigil]

oh

bummer

[quartz barn]

was a thing on release

[hardy raft]

feel like it broke again

[limpid lodge]

the amount of specials and elites has died down a bit

[hardy raft]

seeing double time in hi shok

[quartz barn]

if you do hm now its extremely easy

[limpid lodge]

but it was also overkill before it sometimes spawn way too much too fast

[quartz barn]

didnt even die down a bit, elites and specials got halved it not more

also shotgunners dont spawn any more in hm

and crushers and ragers arent as common

specials barely spawn

[stiff falcon]

The director spawns are broken again

Because nothing spawns

[plucky flax]

Nice flex. I still don't have it.

[stiff falcon]

Hamdolsun

[quartz barn]

thats a lie lol

[plucky flax]

I'm pretty sure shotgunners still spawned last time I did it.

[hardy raft]

seeing double trapper spawns and like 4 dreg bombers all next to eachother on regular ass damnation, maybe the director broke again

[stiff falcon]

Pots and crab disagree

[quartz barn]

?

[stiff falcon]

I think if I average out the last 200 aurics, less than 75 specials spawned total

[quartz barn]

no i was responding to selfish

[stiff falcon]

Ahh

[quartz barn]

because i saw their vid 🙂

or clip idk

[plucky flax]

It's not me it's mr unsanctioned.

I am just sedition noob.

[quartz barn]

oh ye true mb

[cosmic sigil]

god because it was insane

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma in hm at launch.

Boom boom bam bam.

[worn beacon]

Is having 2 melee kills as psyker normal

[quartz barn]

no

[limpid lodge]

you should have more

[worn beacon]

3?

[quartz barn]

you should have 0 cuz melee = movement tool

[plucky flax]

I think the lowest I have is around 30 ish. I use melees for muties.

[cosmic sigil]

that's a lot of muties

[stiff falcon]

Now here is a true challenge

3veg, no damage taken or done

[limpid lodge]

psyker melee is good if your not the target

[quartz barn]

you're always a target tho

you also want to be so you can funnel hordes

• easier to hit heads

[plucky flax]

Hrmm let me check this and see

147 disablers specials

[worn beacon]

Psyker melee is good, look at gunkers

[quartz barn]

gunker is fun

[hardy raft]

so i just install this from where bt

w

[quartz barn]

mfw i cover a room in a single slide

[quartz barn]

prob nexus

but idk i dont have ovenproof

just google it tbh

[limpid lodge]

its on nexus ya i wouldnt trust mods from anywhere else

[quartz barn]

nah modder disc is fine too

[limpid lodge]

is it never ok

heard of it but ok

[quartz barn]

thats literally the place you get weapon custom from

and many others in the creation showcase channel

[light belfry]

for the brain burst warp charges penance do you need the 6 max charges talent for it to work

or could you just make it easier by dropping it

[quartz barn]

most of those are just ui changes

if you mean max stacks it goes of off your max possible

so if you dont have that node it just requires you to be at 4, if you do you need to be at 6

[limpid lodge]

everyone who got it doesnt pick that perk so its easier and faster to be at max charges

[quartz barn]

so ye 4 makes it easier

[marble crater]

I don't even remember that penance

[quartz barn]

max warp charges for 300 seconds

[limpid lodge]

ya its the only really annoying one for psyker

[worn beacon]

When first trying gunker I tried playing it like regular psyker

I quickly found that ammo isn't infinite

[marble crater]

Ah it's that one? Surge and Shock troop gauntlet to the rescue for that

[light belfry]

really feels like its based on launch psyker

[worn beacon]

And found myself more and more in melee combat

[plucky flax]

Play assail to save ammo.

[worn beacon]

Only then I understood gunker is melee

[light belfry]

these days if you try to focus on bb you dont even take warp charges so it feels wrong

[worn beacon]

I got smite

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

Don't listen to this sedation player

[quartz barn]

just take all the ammo instead

i know i do

[plucky flax]

If you play smite and creeping flames you can kill horde easily too.

Or yeah jsut grab all ammo.

Problem solved.

RIP vet.

[stiff falcon]

Xbot

[worn beacon]

I do that with surge staff

[quartz barn]

vet is just worse gunker anyway

but shout

[limpid lodge]

that sole depends on the diff

[worn beacon]

With gunker I just pop scrier's gaze and go melee

[quartz barn]

ye pretty much

[stiff falcon]

Ainz does more damage with assail on damnation than most players do with everything

Mad lad

[limpid lodge]

we all thought smite would be amazing at higher diff but you start to realzie your just stun locking it all and not eliminating anything

[worn beacon]

Unless creeping flames

[quartz barn]

because you need to combine it with ep

[worn beacon]

I use smite to stunlock shit on gunker and kill hordes on surge

[limpid lodge]

it has its uses but itll get your team into trouble

[quartz barn]

because smite on its own sucks

[hardy raft]

it can kill elite hordes

[marble crater]

Smite will also get your team out of trouble

[limpid lodge]

plus it tends to agro a lot onto you

[hardy raft]

EP/creepflame is like the best hordeclear posyker has

[light belfry]

ep smite with shout can kill infinite enemies

[plucky flax]

Don't look at the killfeeds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b657tHKOPcQ

[hardy raft]

shoutout to idiots who said smite is bad on youtube so it was buffed further

[quartz barn]

still dont understand how aggro onto you is a bad thing

[plucky flax]

Teammate got so jelly he killed me.

[quartz barn]

unless you cant dodge or block i guess

[hardy raft]

its kinda bad when theres a stray non zapped zombie about to maul you

dodge works but sometimes not

[quartz barn]

dodge in place

easy

[worn beacon]

Lmfao

[plucky flax]

[quartz barn]

but ye i do i frame dodge a lot when running smite

tbf you should regardless

[hardy raft]

you should cause its not invincible mode really

but sucks to have a zombie on your toe and teammates be like imma kill the stunned zombies!!!!!! and not look back

[worn beacon]

Surge is funny to use

[plucky flax]

I don't dodge I just stun.

[hardy raft]

also heard that the +10% damage debuff only works for lclick smite so its without that and killing all shit

[plucky flax]

I remove dodge button.

[worn beacon]

Esp with syphon

[plucky flax]

It works with both left and right click dw.

[hardy raft]

damn

one of the surviving mythos in korean community

guess its not true

[worn beacon]

Kill elite/specials with surge
Smite + Creeping flames on horde
What the fuck is a melee weapon

[hardy raft]

[plucky flax]

The debuff mod doesn't indicate on right click, but it's there. The mod has been fixed since.

[stiff falcon]

It was

[plucky flax]

That's where the myth came from.

[hardy raft]

EP smite is so broken that it kils the elites too tbh

[hardy raft]

awesome

[quartz barn]

well thats the ep smite loop

[plucky flax]

Same with people used to say duellist didn't do anything when patch 13 just dropped on zealot.

Because there is no buff icon.

[quartz barn]

gain ep stack, smite > elite kill, repeat

[plucky flax]

But they didn't even bother to test in meatgrinder smh.

[worn beacon]

I'd still rather do syphon for all the bonuses the stacks give

[plucky flax]

Duellist always worked.

[stiff falcon]

Smite was beneath both Assail and BB and it wasn’t even close for a long time

[hardy raft]

+24% increase

vs +200%

[worn beacon]

Yeah but that's only for smite

I have surge that also wants that damage increase

[quartz barn]

i dont even use surge on that build

[hardy raft]

i run a gunpsyker for this so

its fun

[quartz barn]

dont get to use it because smite clears everything better

[hardy raft]

EP smite gunker is like the last thing you probably want cause smite doesnt work with true aim

[quartz barn]

but matching wep for the drip

[plucky flax]

If you play surge warp charges you should never use smite unless in extreme situations.

[hardy raft]

until you realize EP smite just kills everything

[quartz barn]

why would you have ep smite on gunker?

[hardy raft]

surge warpcharge is just spamming surge until death

[quartz barn]

2 builds in one

[worn beacon]

Yes sir

What the fuck is melee

[hardy raft]

cause i like guns more than staffs tbh

it does work

[plucky flax]

Yeah just press f and spam surge then you win.

It's that easy.

[rigid sky]

Going guns and not going SG DD though

[quartz barn]

ye but you dont have shout for extended smite

[hardy raft]

it does hurt yea

[rigid sky]

Like there goes all the actual strength lmao

[quartz barn]

or dmg bonus on gun

[hardy raft]

no i specifically use shout

for this

[worn beacon]

DD should be renamed to Manifest Destiny whenever gunker uses it

[quartz barn]

but then its not gunker

[hardy raft]

and only buff the gun with true aim

[marble crater]

No, Surge and warp charges is very hard to play please buff to reward high skill play

[quartz barn]

now you just run ep smite with a gun lmao

[hardy raft]

i have true aim so it counts :teeth;

if i didnt use that i'd just say psyker with a gun

[rigid sky]

I guess you might be able to do something like this with a revolver

[hardy raft]

probably better tbh

[worn beacon]

But revolver is less dakka per dakka

[hardy raft]

anything just that obliterates specials and elites to gain stacks

[rigid sky]

Idk if you need SG DD so much with it

[hardy raft]

you dont

SG is bad with smite

[quartz barn]

ngl all of this just comes down to trauma needing a buff

[hardy raft]

insert that one guy saying trauma is a better smite

[rigid sky]

I have only tried laspistol 2 and ciag on my gunker and those can't do without SG DD tbh

[worn beacon]

Void needs a buff truly

[hardy raft]

i like trauma tbh, its good at spreading brittleness

[rigid sky]

And smite is a better purgatus

[rigid sky]

Ew, the boring version

[quartz barn]

i never got into purg tbh

only staff i dont really use

[rigid sky]

If you haven't set the entirety of tertium on fire

[worn beacon]

The easier to get version tbf

[rigid sky]

Are you really traumaing

[hardy raft]

i like the blaze version too, but it has... snowball issues

[plucky flax]

Rending trauma on an alreaady bad staff.

[rigid sky]

Yeah, no judgement

[quartz barn]

but blaze 4 trauma

[rigid sky]

I just love the Blaze Trauma too much lol

[plucky flax]

My trauma has t4 blazing spirits.

[hardy raft]

i like it too

but sometimes the thing wont budge on the snowball

[rigid sky]

Stuck without Flak though

[quartz barn]

no nexus for higher crit%?

[marble crater]

Sad

[quartz barn]

waiti nvm didnt see first pic

[rigid sky]

Tbh I would swap crit to Flak on it and then try to get another one

[hardy raft]

for brittle trauma i think flurry better to just spam

[plucky flax]

Yeah go flak rather than crit chance.

[rigid sky]

You really want Flak on traumas

Since Carapace is literally only crushers

[plucky flax]

Too many flak targets and soulblaze does extra damage to flak.

[quartz barn]

well ye but not on blazing trauma

[hardy raft]

obv

[rigid sky]

You can spam the Blaze too

[quartz barn]

also just use ds4 for crushers

[rigid sky]

Minimal charge blasts keep you safe

[ornate hamlet]

is it worth giving psyker a stam curio

[quartz barn]

no point in putting carapace on trauma when ds4 2 taps

[rigid sky]

I take deimos for it but it's the same either way

Brain rupture murders them too

[marble crater]

Yes

[rigid sky]

I like a single +3

[quartz barn]

stam on psyk is pretty solid

[rigid sky]

Make sure it has blessing rating of 76 or higher

[quartz barn]

otherwise you just have 2 stam xd

[rigid sky]

If it has 75, it is a fake curio

And only gives 2

In live missions

3 on display and in meat grinder lmao

[plucky flax]

I prefer hp or toughness but you play whatever curios combination you want.

[quartz barn]

fs pls fix

[plucky flax]

Go 3 wounds for gigachad status.

[ornate hamlet]

dont need wouynds if i never down

[marble crater]

3 wounds for poxburster cosplay

[quartz barn]

personally have stam, wound and toughness

wound is mostly to cover for random shit

[plucky flax]

JC you are very good you don't need wound.

[quartz barn]

ye true

[plucky flax]

Go hp me fren.

[quartz barn]

ran 2 for a long while

hp is useless tho

[plucky flax]

[quartz barn]

just dont get hit 🙂

[plucky flax]

Okay I pick up all the grims.

Enjoy having 1 wound.

[quartz barn]

i mean you told me to go 2 wounds zzz

[marble crater]

Not the grims

Youtube advice

[quartz barn]

besides i play ogryn now

charge heavy = solo carry

[hardy raft]

if you spam trauma more its fine

but flak better

[quartz barn]

also got 5 wounds by default for reasons?

need to compensate for lower skill char i guess

[hardy raft]

has +1 wound

than others

[marble crater]

5 wounds? What difficulty are you playing?

[plucky flax]

Ogryn heavy spam and chill.

[quartz barn]

auric xd

[hardy raft]

ive seen a 6 wound ogryn on damnation and it was cursed

[marble crater]

Auric sedation? Where are you getting 5 wounds from

[quartz barn]

idk ive not looked at curios, so i guess i run 2 wounds or smt

[marble crater]

[quartz barn]

been using the same lmg + shield since lvl 15 i think?

[marble crater]

Bruh

[quartz barn]

but hey atleast i get free revives

need that penance prog

legit tho ogryn is incredibly easy

like idk how people go down on him

unless you're on your own and there are only gunners

[limpid lodge]

maybe when helping protect others

[quartz barn]

you protect by just standing inside a horde

[limpid lodge]

er i should say getting someone back up

[quartz barn]

which means you constantly regen toughness by hitting things

[limpid lodge]

but even then its rare

[plucky flax]

Ogryn is hard when you get 3 funny guys on the team and you have to do everything yourself.

Then I wished I waas on psyker,

[limpid lodge]

playing psyker first seems to make you better at the other classes because of how much you have to learn to adapt to and avoid dmg

[stiff falcon]

5 wounds

Eww

[plucky flax]

When I have most special kills on ogryn with 2 vets.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1241094138271629432/image.png?ex=666b397c&is=6669e7fc&hm=a69721191c71f432ad5d86fc119abc6e6a2dc80caafd13e7d6e1351b62d54e50&

Veri sad.

[hardy raft]

gettign blasted by 10 gunners

[marble crater]

Very true, playing psyker first and then playing zealot was a very strange experience "What do you mean I can rush into a group of ragers and just kill them all?"

[limpid lodge]

ive seen other players who went the oposite and struggled

because they werent prepared for it

[hardy raft]

60% resistance by having stuff on bleed

[limpid lodge]

thats pretty nice

[plucky flax]

The bleed range is pretty smol.

It's very melee.

[hardy raft]

annnd ogryn usually kills everything

even after bleed proc

[plucky flax]

I have least kill counts on ogryn actually. but I don't spam kiccbacc or only use guns like some other ogryns.

[hardy raft]

having free bleed on melee

is great cause you dont have to put something like lacerate on ytour guns to stand against hordes

[haughty star]

what do

[plucky flax]

Psyker or combat axe zealot net me the most kills per mission.

[hardy raft]

keep groaner/poxwalker cause its apprantly unarmored/infested instead

or something idk

[haughty star]

i was at a loss between keeping infested for dogs and doing flak and gettting warp nexus IV or just keeping WN i and going flakiak

[limpid lodge]

that staff its not a 80% dmg id just learn your warp flurry and roll for another

[haughty star]

it's not gonna be perfect either way im just looking for useablilty

[haughty star]

don't have time to be getting perfect rolls for everything don't like this game that much.

[hardy raft]

does it need 80% or is it just godroll

[limpid lodge]

it requires 3 adjustments

[marble crater]

Purgatus doesn't really need damage, it and resistance and dump stats, you want 76% burn for max stacks and 80 radius for max range

[haughty star]

i got one of those

[haughty star]

what two would you bump around on this one? never had a useable one lol

i was thinking just flakiak and keep WN and WF the way they are

[plucky flax]

Pls no hate. 😦

[marble crater]

More crits are nice because they apply 2 stacks of soulblaze, so I would upgrade that and roll a dice on which perk to replace with flak

[lilac summit]

does surge work on trauma now?

[limpid lodge]

dont you think its better to just learn warp flurry and gamble for a better staff?

[marble crater]

If you have the material then sure, because you will replace this one eventually anyway

[marble crater]

Only the primary fire, not the explosion

[hardy raft]

i use runngun and nexus

since flurry seems to be overkill

and runngun provides cqc +10% damage buff

[lilac summit]

they really should get on that

i had that staff for months now

[sacred crane]

been using this ds4 for awhile, think i shoul start looking for an upgrade?

[hardy raft]

great if you can get a maniac one btw

oneshots muties to the head if you have slightly more damage bonus

[marble crater]

Yes, upgrade it

[hardy raft]

(warp charges n stuff)

[limpid lodge]

replace if your lvl 30

[stiff falcon]

Dd stacks

[hardy raft]

that too

[stiff falcon]

Want that mobility above 60

[sacred crane]

??? spend all my ordos, this is the best one i got

also this but the damage is

[stiff falcon]

Oof

I won’t use anything below 375 base

[limpid lodge]

keep an eye on your pene so you can get good weak spot hits on flack

[hardy raft]

at best the first one but seems ass either way

[limpid lodge]

i still dont quite understand the finesse stat but i know it helps with swipes

[sacred crane]

headshot damage

[limpid lodge]

aw ok

[stiff falcon]

What makes the best weapons the best

[upper galleon]

it's a bit of extra damage if you use it right (IE get to stack cap and swap to something better)

[sacred crane]

"Critical hits and weak spot hits"

[hardy raft]

wp crit bonus

• attack speed on some

[limpid lodge]

gotcha

[upper galleon]

finesse on mod score= attack speed, as well as weakspot/crit

finesse on blessings/talents= just weakspot/crit bonuses

[ornate hamlet]

are brain rupture and EP the only things that can modify brainburst damage

[stiff falcon]

Make knife do funni 15k damage

[upper galleon]

any talents that are active

[hardy raft]

DD

syphon works also

[sacred crane]

mettle and warp rider

more warp damage'

[ornate hamlet]

seems like the elite damage aura works as well, idk i asked cos i read somewhere about how bb damage is fixed differently depending on enemy type and kinda assumed that meant the damage couldnt be increased outside of specific bb stuff but i was WRONG

more importantly do any of the non BR/EP damage increases reach any breakpoints, assuming u have BR/EP already

[hardy raft]

if you're at high warp rider will net you 2shot on crusher i think? idk

something like that

[ivory wharf]

Hey fellas question is purg staff any good

[hardy raft]

yes

[ivory wharf]

Should I use it over the surge staff?

[ornate hamlet]

use whatever staff brings you the most joy

[ivory wharf]

I mean i enjoy stunning enemies but I lack any form of CC outside of my sword

[hardy raft]

prug lclick stuns ragers back

easy to CC them

if you like to stun crushers just DS4 them

[upper sun]

hell yeah

make sure you get a staff with 76% burn cloud as high as possible and flak t4 as a perk with nexus t4 and you're good

purge legit only needs two things to be great

[hardy raft]

probably best perfect it can get

[upper sun]

yup

flurry isnt even needed that much

unless you fuck up positioning in an event or smthin

[hardy raft]

i like runngun

cause it gives +10% damage to cqc

[hardy raft]

fatshank with their missing descriptions

[upper sun]

this is mine

[upper sun]

it does what

[hardy raft]

can shoot while running (+ -30% spread, +10% close damage)

it was buffed in like

patch 15?

few months ago

the desc never changed

[upper sun]

burh

i had no idea

[hardy raft]

you missing +10% damage :

tbh probably idk

not that it matters much

[upper sun]

on charge or lmb spam

[hardy raft]

i think its just close damage

like uh, fire frenzy

[upper sun]

damn might try it out

[hardy raft]

there was a forum post about it

and a update desc

hold on lemme find it

[shell radish]

What melees seem to work well with scriers? Been mostly running MkIV dueling/columnus but I struggle a bit with hordes. Anything I should try?

[shell radish]

Usually run trauma but trying out scriers more

[hardy raft]

illisi

[thorn cedar]

almost every weapon tbh

[hardy raft]

the option for psyker hordeclear

but just brutal momentum rashad works tbh

[shell radish]

Don't you not want to run force swords with scriers? Shortens it due to peril

[hardy raft]

you spam lights