not as hot as you babe
#psyker-class
late yew
lethal lagoon
charred scroll
if i had a nickle for every time someone with their jimmies rustled called me an alt acc, i would have at least 3 nickles
marble crater
I don't mind smite in the team, when it's used against those 10 crushers or 20 ragers. I mind smite very much if the first two poxwalkers we come across get zapped 1 minute into the mission
lethal lagoon
Warp rupture doesn't really do much.
charred scroll
Warp rupture doesn't really do much.
i wouldn't know, i barely ever use shriek at all
charred scroll
I don't mind smite in the team, when it's used against those 10 crushers or 20 r...
oh yea definitely annoying
lethal lagoon
median elk
Ability
charred scroll
i don't need an entire skilltree just to not use it lmfao
i like playing with things, ep smite is just my current obsession
median elk
But it literally kills anything non-elite
charred scroll
same reason i just kinda don't use bb anymore
median elk
It can undog a teammate
charred scroll
i used it way too much when it was the only thing available
charred scroll
It can undog a teammate
to be fair pretty much everything undogs a teamate, even thru wallls with explosive or certain skills
median elk
from 30m away
cinder moon
don't touch my ticklefingers
lethal lagoon
don't touch my ticklefingers
Uncle ticklefingers, coming in to the ring.
cinder moon
charred scroll
okay so i never bothered to do anything specifics with my curios, just like, hp and stamina/combat ability regen
anything i should LIKELY pay attention to?
analog agate
This is actually hilarious haha. When he said he was a bubble smiter… like, bro. Maybe I am just no lifing the game. But he is talking about randoms and saving them. I am at the point where randoms don’t matter haha
charred scroll
This is actually hilarious haha. When he said he was a bubble smiter… like, bro....
liiisten man, it gives me the warm fuzzies to keep people safe
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
median elk
You just make them suffer tbh
hearty oak
lethal lagoon
I will say a clutch rez is addicting, but people going for clutch rezzes is like the number 1 wipe reason.
marble crater
anything i should LIKELY pay attention to?
Arguing about curios is an entire new 2 hour discussion, I have seen everything being used here. From 3 toughness, to 3 +3 stamina curios, anything can work with whatever playstyle. I use Kinetic Deflection so I like to have one +3 stamina
lethal lagoon
Wounds is literally the only wrong option
willow hazel
I run KD so I can run an extra health curio instead
charred scroll
Arguing about curios is an entire new 2 hour discussion, I have seen everything ...
just making sure, I figured it was a lot of "personal prefrence" but just wanted to know if there were any major "wrong choices" lol
and more wounds seems like a good avoidance lol
cinder moon
Wounds is literally the only wrong option
unless you're running "oops all wounds" for the memes
in which case, you're already beyond the comprehension of mere mortals
cinder moon
i have one build with all wound curios specifically so i can go explode in crowds whenever i'm playing with my newb buddy
charred scroll
https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016
me when i drop into auric with grey weapns and as many wounds as i can physically shove into my psyker
lethal lagoon
i have one build with all wound curios specifically so i can go explode in crowd...
And you told him tht's the meta, right?
charred scroll
i have one build with all wound curios specifically so i can go explode in crowd...
okay that actually sounds fun
lmao
lethal lagoon
Psyker explosion needs to be buffed to Ogryn nuke status
cinder moon
And you told him tht's the meta, right?
he’s the toxic ogryn I’ve mentioned in the past
charred scroll
Psyker explosion needs to be buffed to Ogryn nuke status
psyker explosion now affects allies
lethal lagoon
psyker explosion now affects allies
It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make
So weak
So pitiful
Is my life's sacrifice but a joke?
median elk
liiisten man, it gives me the warm fuzzies to keep people safe
If you're serious, then consider smiting less.
Smite stops the hordes, teammates are forced to leave their positions to clear and that's when they become vulnerable.
charred scroll
psykers no longer explode, they just become demonhosts
charred scroll
If you're serious, then consider smiting less.
Smite stops the hordes, teammates...
joking aside, with as much as i use smite, i use my shock staff almost as often
i'm not walking around smiting a single poxwalker kekw
median elk
shock staff with smite 
charred scroll
shock staff make brain feel good
cinder moon
smite is to stop situations from getting out of hand, by channeling lightning through your hands
also I’m a smite/surge user, full zap build is fun and I can carry in aurics
surge lmb underrated for ranged mobs
late yew
bubble smiters are based
median elk
I want to die now
late yew
imagine hating on guys who fuckn dedicate themselves to save your shit stained ass
rigid sky
Shriek smite is the way
cinder moon
bubble smite is icky because you’re locked into a particular position
venting smite is the tits
rigid sky
They are such a natural combo
late yew
shriek smite is a bitch way
rigid sky
Like I can't look at smite without thinking "the entire purpose of this is to hold enemies in place to blow them up"
cinder moon
pair with psykinetic’s aura so you can vent multiple times inside a minute, in the right circumstances
cinder moon
observe
late yew
I would assume battery + surge should do well?
upper galleon
Did anyone found good scrier build btw
it would be transfer peril void no?
jovial juniper
You'd want Warp Nexus regardless
rigid sky
Void crits are huge
Very good Finesse modifier
I would probably SG on purgatus more though
But I still wouldn't do that
I only use it for me gun
rigid sky
Well yeah
rigid sky
Gunker is also our best melee build
upper galleon
don't like playing scrier staff that much
cinder moon
keep meaning to try scrier smite
jovial juniper
Make sure to get a good quell speed/Warp resistance purgatus
upper galleon
keep meaning to try scrier smite
i think you're peril would be capped quick, but at least you won't blow up cause smite has that safety net
cinder moon
nah, just for damage buff/memes
i've never even tried it in psykanium but i have doubts it'd be that useful
bold cape
i love joining 24 minutes late into a 30 minute mission and still coming out on top lmao
vet is crazy
jovial juniper
Too bad only void gets to use all the bonus of DD on the charged attacks, so Scrier's any other staff will have to get WS or EP
Unless you want to LMB quell cancel
cinder moon
voiDD is nuts
bold cape
void dd is my favorite psyker build probably
upper sun
I link DD on void because its so CHEAP
so cheap in fact i can take trash perks like quietude
bold cape
also pog 200 hours
tho probably less than half of that is actually ingame lmao
okay my contracts arent progressing wtf
please game do not fuck me out of this slab shield
upper sun
contract or penance?
upper sun
i never do scab kills
lethal lagoon
went into game with 973 scab melee kills and came out with 973
Did you beat the round?
bold cape
yea
lethal lagoon
late yew
i love joining 24 minutes late into a 30 minute mission and still coming out on ...
... scoreboard only starts counting all damage when you join
it does not record staff happened before you joined
plucky flax
Wait was there new premium cosmetics last week?
I am losing track of time near antartica. Time here moves different.
narrow herald
I am losing track of time near antartica. Time here moves different.
You're from antarctica?
charred scroll
You're from antarctica?
how did you get their selfie?
narrow herald
I heard it's beautiful there tho
narrow herald
how did you get their selfie?
Yes
narrow herald
When you live in that cold you need to be ROUND
charred scroll
least it's not as bad as goverment secret holders playing war thunder
something something "please stop leaking confidential goverment documents to us to try and get tanks updated"
plucky flax
Me pals before I ate them.
plucky flax
You're from antarctica?
marble crater
lethal lagoon
Me pals before I ate them.
Pal slaughterering was so random and so funny.
plucky flax
♥
So my question.
Was there new premium last week or it'll be this?
My net is shit but I can at least log in to quickly buy skins. :3
upper sun
pretty sure its this week
also im fairly positive you can wait a week to buy your skins
marble crater
I can send a picture, I don't know what's new or not
upper sun
i think zealot crown set is still the newest one
marble crater
Was there new premium last week or it'll be this?
I also misread the question, so ignore me 
plucky flax
It's the same set but new.
Dunno if I want to spend money on the veteran chest and leg armour.
Since there's no matching helm.
upper sun
wait for the next set
plucky flax
Yeah I'll pass on these stuff.
bold cape
... scoreboard only starts counting all damage when you join
oops! didnt know that, that would make sense :p
im waiting for the commissar cap for vet to come out
other than that im not buying any cosmetics, for the drip is free
hearty oak
Would using the purge staff with warp 'rupture' be better? You're already stacking tons of fire stacks with purge, might as well get the damage in with vent
hearty oak
Dunno if I want to spend money on the veteran chest and leg armour.
Neither, its all:
plucky flax
Yes I want some proper karskin armour.
Like with the cool helm.
And flak armour.
Not these gimp suits.
stiff falcon
Go nude
marble crater
Sure, it has enough mobility
marble crater
Rampage to uncanny
tiny oracle
i dont really feel like i get that much value from uncanny tbh
marble crater
And maybe carapace to maniac, depends on how you use it and what breakpoints you can get with the perks
How do you use it?
tiny oracle
i use it on hordes and crushers for the most part
anything else gets taken care of with my columnus
also, with over 50% crit chance already most of my attacks ignore armor anyway
marble crater
I don't think that's how it works
tiny oracle
then i must have misunderstood because i thought crits ignore armor
median elk
They don't ignore armor type modifiers
marble crater
I would go into the meat grinder and test it against crushers, with and without uncanny and the perk. See how the attacks needed change
marble crater
Slaughterer and uncanny strike/deflector, depends on your playstyle
ivory wharf
How’s things
marble crater
Good now, we got all the big arguments out of our system for the rest of the day
ivory wharf
Big arguments? What were you guys arguing about?
tiny oracle
problem is i dont know how i would test it fairly
marble crater
Big arguments? What were you guys arguing about?
Smite 
marble crater
problem is i dont know how i would test it fairly
Count how many heavy attacks you need to kill a crusher
ivory wharf
Smite <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Smite seriously 😧 that seems kinda silly
Ok so what was the whole argument around smite than
tiny oracle
no way to get DD stacks, also rampage would also affect it
plucky flax
Crit doesn't ignore armour but has very good adm against armours.
So if you crit a lot you can kill crushers fine without uncanny.
spice veldt
crits on duellies don't have any crit mods to my knowledge
plucky flax
It chunks stuff though.
split lance
worth buying for slaughterer?
plucky flax
Just really high finesse damage then.
marble crater
Ok so what was the whole argument around smite than
About how good and fun it is basically
tiny oracle
mk4 dueling sword has 72% carapace and 95 flak on heavies
marble crater
worth buying for slaughterer?
Only buy for tier 4 blessings
Unless the blessing only exists in a lower tier
split lance
Only buy for tier 4 blessings
does slaughterer exist in t4?
ivory wharf
About how good and fun it is basically <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Damn bro that’s quite silly to be arguing over how good and fun smite is 😂
bold cape
yea melkbux for t3 blessings aint worth it, unless you're capped
ivory wharf
marble crater
does slaughterer exist in t4?
It does
marble crater
Not for me, but it does 
bold cape
feel that
marble crater
If you don't want to get shot at then yes
marble crater
um bois, this is a good buy right
It's good if your next two rolls are lucky, perk and blessing on that are not good for illisi, imo
split lance
BOIS
median elk
just slide lmao
split lance
It's good if your next two rolls are lucky, perk and blessing on that are not go...
SO LUCKY
marble crater
Very lucky indeed, maniac instead of carapace and slaughterer for exorcist and you have a very good illisi
Almost perfect really
tiny oracle
uncanny seems to require 1 less heavy for crushers, though it looks like the difference is small enough to be equalized by DD stacks/rampage
and rampage actually helps a ton on horde clear
marble crater
If it works for you then keep it like you have
tiny oracle
would probably still want uncanny with a staff though
split lance
i think i just used up all my omnissiah luck for the week
marble crater
Most likely, yes
median elk
uncanny seems to require 1 less heavy for crushers, though it looks like the dif...
no uncanny vs uncanny
marble crater
That's 8 vs 5
median elk
Could be better if you stack it beforehand
marble crater
Okay, 7 vs 5, because one wasn't a weakspot hit
marble crater
And from what people are saying you probably won't need rampage to make it work against hordes when you use gaze
median elk
Uncanny works with any armor type and any damage sourse as long as it's active
with any armor type except unarmored and infested
tiny oracle
for anything thats not a horde or crusher i pull out columnus though
clear bridge
...wait... are you saying you need rampage to fight a horde with the Illisi?
tiny oracle
with my build right now, without uncanny 5 weakspot heavy hits on a crusher, 4 if one of them crits
marble crater
...wait... are you saying you need rampage to fight a horde with the Illisi?
This is about dueling sword
tiny oracle
reduce that number by one with gaze active
clear bridge
median elk
with my build right now, without uncanny 5 weakspot heavy hits on a crusher, 4 i...
You'll be killing a crusher with 3 hits if you crit all of them
And ragers will probably take just one. Probably. Possibly.
tiny oracle
You'll be killing a crusher with 3 hits if you crit all of them
just wish there was a way i could test this with DD stacks as i dont get those in meat grinder
15% damage, 30% crit damage and 37.5% weakspot damage will change this by alot
median elk
Sure thing
tiny oracle
but as i said, i would probably run uncanny with a staff build
but with my current build i dont feel the effect of it in an actual game as much as i feel rampage
bold cape
just wish there was a way i could test this with DD stacks as i dont get those i...
if you have the creature spawner mod you can
also uncanny is basically a must take for ds
it’s best in slot for any build
bold cape
for anything thats not a horde or crusher i pull out columnus though
and also you really don’t need to do this, at all
ds4 shreds everything and is even serviceable against hordes WITHOUT rampage using scriers + dd
gunker does not need to expend all that much ammo with a good ds4
blissful pulsar
is 67% mobillity good on a mk4 dueling sword?
isn't 60% the threshold for the final extra dodge ye?
bold cape
like i wouldnt doubt it if you scored top melee on gunker
tiny oracle
anything you would change?
@bold cape ill try some games then, ive just been feeling like rampage does more for me in actual games, this is the mk4 im using
bold cape
i use uncanny, shred, carapace and maniac
shred and riposte are interchangeable depending on what you see most uptime with
definitely change rampage to uncanny i feel
marble crater
isn't 60% the threshold for the final extra dodge ye?
50%
tiny oracle
i use uncanny, shred, carapace and maniac
shred and riposte are interchangeable ...
should i change carapace to flak or maniac?
i personally feel riposte is more reliable with my playstyle, not that i had a choice though as the replaced perk/blessing were garbage tier
bold cape
obv use what works for you but i and most people id wager would much prefer uncanny
this is personal preference, depends, you like poking carapace more + if the mutant bp is important to you
maniac is only needed on mutant wave modifiers imo
anything else and its overkill
marble crater
I use riposte instead of shred, because I don't use mine for hordes. I either dodge the mauler/crusher and poke them, or I poke/dodge the mutie. That's all I use my DS4 for
tiny oracle
my thought process on carapace is that my columnus performs really well against everything else but just tickles carapace
median elk
Uncanny works for columnus too. It's a 3.5s character buff.
bold cape
that as well, can get to 5 stacks and swap to columnus
median elk
Unlike, say, headtaker
tiny oracle
melee is my main horde clear since i cant afford to waste all my ammo on hordes
bold cape
the only time i pull out the columnus is for bosses, rager group, or i just really need something dead and my sword wont cut it
otherwise ds4 is out for 95% of the game
tiny oracle
nothing feels better than to pop a stimm and 1mag a monstrosity
tiny oracle
assuming you arent the only one shooting it of course
if its only you that would be a 2mag
bold cape
columnus can 1mag a plogryn if you land all weakspots
bold cape
see here
in practice? maybe not, but doable nonetheless
ive only done it once in game but then again, i havent played gunker in quite some time
tiny oracle
that looks to be ideal circumstances though, which isnt realistic
as you said, possible, maybe not realistic
blissful pulsar
What modifiers do folks run on their columnus?
bold cape
still, kills bosses faster than most things, and you aren’t sacrificing versatility to be able to do that as your build covers just about everything
blissful pulsar
err blessings*
tiny oracle
hell yea it does
bold cape
What modifiers do folks run on their columnus?
dumdum is a must for single target dps
fire frenzy is also good, deathspitter instead if you don’t have ff
tiny oracle
just have the basic scoreboard but i always get over 50% of total boss damage without fail
bold cape
the way i use it, only unyielding and dumdum are necessary
other two are nice to haves
tiny oracle
i kinda need a new columnus though, isnt really optimal
bold cape
highly recommend powerdi
provides a lot more information in a neater format, just isn’t good for screenshotting cause it’s a bunch of dropdowns and such
tiny oracle
bold cape
crit damage is unfortunate but still very good
probably better than mine, i have deathspitter
then again im not really using it for multiple targets most of the time anyway
plucky flax
BOIS
It's good but I actually prefer lower warp resist on illisi.
Get high peril faster for creeping flames and warp rider.
split lance
It's good but I actually prefer lower warp resist on illisi.
Idk what warp resist does
split lance
Oh
tiny oracle
crit damage is unfortunate but still very good
probably better than mine, i have...
would get rid of that crit damage if the other one wasnt poxwalkers
bold cape
would get rid of that crit damage if the other one wasnt poxwalkers
crafting update will fix it :)
sacred crane
should i nab?
plucky flax
Yeah elites is okay. Only surgical 3 though.
sacred crane
Yeah elites is okay. Only surgical 3 though.
its still surgical
so is it worth grabbing?
plucky flax
Yeah but could be a lot better. If you have no revolver go for it I guess.
I wouldn't personally.
tiny oracle
i would pick it up if you want to try a revolver, you dont have any better options and you have an excess of melk bucks
if any of those 3 are not true leave it in there
sacred crane
idk what seems so bad about it
or why surgical 3 seems bad
sure it aint surgical 4 because 3 is still good
tiny oracle
its not nescessarily bad, but it just could be a lot better
and you dont really get alot of melk bucks
sacred crane
testing it out, its pretty good, added maniac + hand cannon and yeah, very good gun
analog agate
idk what seems so bad about it
You are asking advice from people who have put 100-1000s of hours in the game. So, most are pretty much only going for T4 blessings at the least with really good stat distributions
ivory wharf
Soooo brain burst what’s its effective range?
analog agate
Soooo brain burst what’s its effective range?
The entire map of every map
ivory wharf
Also does the dome shield pair well with brain burst?
analog agate
Yeah. If you are doing a purg build or something
blissful pulsar
What should I swap on this and to what for gunker?
thorn cedar
plus they hard stop specials which you cant otherwise do
blissful pulsar
Eh, the toughness damage reduction + regen on the dome is just to good
split lance
just got this
What’s the difference between Deimos and illisi
light belfry
the deimos is single target focused and the illisi is horde clear focused
the illisi has a different special attack than the other 2 as well
its spammable and you can kinda chop away at hordes with it instaed of just hitting 1 guy
split lance
I like illisi
light belfry
yea i wanna get a good one
wise nymph
I regret never trying out Psyker before. The first force sword you get is so stupidly fun to use.
light belfry
its next on my list
wise nymph
I have no idea how this class works, but I'm having a blast.
split lance
I have no idea how this class works, but I'm having a blast.
Me too man me too
light belfry
its very fun
wise nymph
I mean. There's little not to love.
light belfry
psyker is probably my second or first favorite depending on what day you ask me
wise nymph
It's a sword with some nice swings in front of you, a stab, and you can infuse it with Psyker bullshit to make it like a chainsword.
As Veteran, the weapon would be shit against crowds.
But the block lets you blast everything around you.
So it's just awesome.
light belfry
when it comes to getting really good versions it has some cool ass blessings too
yiu can make it block bullets
with the force shield
wise nymph
I don't know what build I will be going for, I'll just try the different activations and see how that goes.
light belfry
mhm
wise nymph
yiu can make it block bullets
I love that.
My low level Psyker has lived longer in melee than my low level Zealots.
I have one max level Veteran and then low level in everything else.
light belfry
me too
wise nymph
Duel force sword is incredibly beautiful.
analog agate
I just did the EP smite build. No, Atlas is trolling. It is nowhere that good and doesn’t negate mechanics of the game
It is still a build that you have to melee, dodge, and overall rely on your teammates
split lance
I use mods to drip my weapons out.
what mod
upper galleon
I just did the EP smite build. No, Atlas is trolling. It is nowhere that good a...
What
lethal lagoon
I just did the EP smite build. No, Atlas is trolling. It is nowhere that good a...
👀
upper galleon
It is that good pulling out your ds4 to poke heavy things doesn’t change that
I sure hope it wasn’t strong enough you don’t need to dodge either but i wont be dodging much when i’m ramped and blasting down a horde
upper galleon
As for relying on your teammates, not really, maybe for sheer specialist spam or crusher/bulwark packs but it isn’t like you can’t pull out your surge or void and solve those issues
lethal lagoon
I mean I hope by "EP smite build" you don't mean with a bubble.
Because don't associate me with that
upper galleon
Absolutely jacked rager horde coming at me, i EP smite, i vent and keep smiting, the killfeed looks like i’m cheating, i’m still smiting and all the kills means vent is back up
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
It is still a build that you have to melee, dodge, and overall rely on your team...
Like you are going to tell me that being that much of an idiot and still killing everything isn't game breaking? I dunno. This isn't even that good of a clip, it's just something I remembered to clip to show why I don't take KD.(on ep smite)
lethal lagoon
Absolutely jacked rager horde coming at me, i EP smite, i vent and keep smiting,...
When the kill feed scrolling so fast you forget for a moment you are just holding right click
worn beacon
Maybe I was harsh on calling Surge a worst stave of all
scarlet timber
What is the build on trauma ?
scarlet timber
Like I never used trauma before
I need to change this thing i think
Put maniac on it and warp flurry ?
lethal lagoon
What else is on it?
scarlet timber
Oh tier 1 warp nexus I believe and groaners damage
lethal lagoon
warp flurry is the pairing with rending.
Flak is the default perk
Oldschool meta was flak + unarmored for brusier and ranged mob easier killing.
I have no idea what to pair with rending nowadays though
I think manics lets you one shot some specials
scarlet timber
Should I run devil claw with this thing ?
scarlet timber
I think it would fit it well since it got no boss damage
scarlet timber
Do whatever though, need some mutant killing.
Well devil claw two shots them
urban sandal
i used dclaw with trauma for the longest time but when I swapped to ds4 I couldn't go back
deimos force sword is also decent with it
urban sandal
mk4 dueling sword
scarlet timber
I already using that on my purge staff build
I dont think I ever seen psyker with devil claw though xD
But I think trauma missing both boss damage and muti killing which Dclaw will deal with
urban sandal
deimos works for those too
scarlet timber
Oh true
hardy raft
Like you are going to tell me that being that much of an idiot and still killing...
until some random zombie doesnt get caught insmite and goes for your face smite is realllly good
scarlet timber
I been running scryers gaze with obscurus and shredder autopistol is scyrer op or obscurus isn't that bad ?
lethal lagoon
until some random zombie doesnt get caught insmite and goes for your face smite ...
That literally happened in the video
Didn't matter.
upper galleon
until some random zombie doesnt get caught insmite and goes for your face smite ...
You just
Dodge
hardy raft
yeah
upper galleon
Backwards
upper galleon
Or cast it again as atlas does
hardy raft
hitstun is annoying imho
upper galleon
It’s not like your hands lose their static
hardy raft
only downside of EP smite
hardy raft
It’s not like your hands lose their static
loses 1 stack and if you were on 1 it kinds sucks i guess
upper galleon
I been running scryers gaze with obscurus and shredder autopistol is scyrer op o...
Scrier is op both those weapons are meh
scarlet timber
I see so they aren't just dogshit they just mid okay
I dont know since nerf I haven't seen any shredder xD
hardy raft
if that was on illisi you'd have a godweapon
upper galleon
Being the worse of their choice while imo they arent bad just mid
scarlet timber
if that was on illisi you'd have a godweapon
I think elite <flak so its actually pretty bad honestly
upper galleon
Obscurus has 2 forceswords, knife and ds4 to compete with, autopistol has to fight the god columnus
hardy raft
I think elite <flak so its actually pretty bad honestly
kinda true but its still quite a godroll
upper galleon
It is said the emperor mag dumped horus with a columnus infantry auto and that is why they can’t bring him back, he got obliterated
scarlet timber
I am really annoyed with not having flak damage honestly cuz the elite damage doesn't apply to troopers too...
potent echo
I wonder what the emperor would have as an F ability
analog agate
As someone else pointed out your “problem” is with flaming venting shriek. I could have done that exact thing with the blaze trauma build and never have been in trouble like that in the first place. Can that build be good? Yes. But you are hyping it up to being the strongest thing in the game that negates everything and you don’t have to do anything. Hyperbolic out of this world
lethal lagoon
Why do people argue with me without actually reading
The part where I compare it to the skill it requires is fairly important.
I should just stop getting into EP smite discussions, no one reads.
lethal lagoon
I wonder what the emperor would have as an F ability
Transform everyone into a sussy amognus
Finally granting this server an Ogrynussy
scarlet timber
kinda true but its still quite a godroll
I have deleted so many weapons
potent echo
That would be the good ending to 40k
lethal lagoon
analog agate
It still requires skill. More than you suggest. You are just wronf
lethal lagoon
clear bridge
Some weapons also just trivialize some situations
urban sandal
For not having perfect everything tbf...
should have kept them in case it becomes possible to unbrick items with the itemisation update
clear bridge
It might be overtuned, but in most cases I haven't found smite that fun or useful
scarlet timber
should have kept them in case it becomes possible to unbrick items with the item...
That be coming in the next 3 years maybe
lethal lagoon
upper galleon
It still requires skill. More than you suggest. You are just wronf
It does not lol
clear bridge
Smite being ridiculously good in a mob of elites might be OP - but what about being surrounded by distant gunners?
upper galleon
It is on par with old assail
lethal lagoon
upper galleon
Smite being ridiculously good in a mob of elites might be OP - but what about be...
You get closer or pick them off with staff cause you have evasion on crit
clear bridge
You get closer or pick them off with staff cause you have evasion on crit
Sure! But that's a different strategy.
clear bridge
As long as it isn't one-size-fits-all, it's not so problematic
upper galleon
A different strat
lethal lagoon
Smite being ridiculously good in a mob of elites might be OP - but what about be...
Dodge slide forwardish towards them.
While holding smite of course
upper galleon
Watering down the claims until it’s meaningless
clear bridge
Well what's the original claim here, then?
upper galleon
Even assail wasn’t one size fits all cause it couldnt do monstros and ogryns
And that was braindead
clear bridge
What do you want to happen to Smite?
scarlet timber
Going ffom ogryn to psyker
clear bridge
Going ffom ogryn to psyker
Ayo, make Smite an Ogryn ability? That I can get behind 😎
scarlet timber
Is such a huge change
lethal lagoon
Lightning Punch
scarlet timber
Ayo, make Smite an *Ogryn* ability? That I can get behind 😎
We got the bull rush
lethal lagoon
scarlet timber
I think smite should work like bull rush I don't know
upper galleon
First the soulblaze talents need a hit, then it needs the raw damage on EP toned down
scarlet timber
Knock people on their ass
lethal lagoon
Zeus lightning bolt
scarlet timber
Rather than stun them and keep them in their place
scarlet timber
Zeus lightning bolt
Yes exactly
upper galleon
I think smite should work like bull rush I don't know
Being a burst shock chain? I can see it
lethal lagoon
I disagre with your premise, but I like lightning bolts
upper galleon
It doesn’t need to knock shit down tho
clear bridge
Lightning Punch
100%. No more notes.
lethal lagoon
clear bridge
I doubted too much
lethal lagoon
⚡
clear bridge
...I'm still not sure Smite is as OP as you originally suggested, but that might just be because I hate it
upper galleon
Like idk im not a helicopter pilot but i can tell a helicopter crash was a fuck up when i saw it
lethal lagoon
clear bridge
And what you suggested was cooler
upper galleon
Smite by itself isn’t op, it’s specifically op with EP and it’s op with soulblaze on top of it
lethal lagoon
It's more about shriek extending your cast, but the soulblaze is nice for the BPs.
scarlet timber
No smite isn't op in itself now you got smite psyker with plasma vet now we got a problem
upper galleon
Shouldn’t kill a “how many can fit infront of me” amount of ragers with just EP
Yea no one thinks base smite is op
It probably got buffed cause noobs were going shield ep and no damage
clear bridge
What are we talking like... empowered smite killing elites
Then the soulblaze spreading from those elites
Meaning they're subject to two mid-sized DOTs?
...hm
scarlet timber
I personally love me my warp siphon with my shouting shriek
upper galleon
It's more about shriek extending your cast, but the soulblaze is nice for the BP...
That, i actually like the idea of vent extending smite, but if it has to go, i’d rather them take down cdr and soulblaze more
clear bridge
...I realize I have never properly observed this phenomenon. I retract any and all takes on the subject
upper galleon
And EP stacks for free and only costs one per channel
lethal lagoon
That, i actually like the idea of vent extending smite, but if it has to go, i’d...
I didn't say I didn't like that part, just that's a part of it.
upper galleon
So you can easily bank them if you go for 3 charges
upper galleon
I didn't say I didn't like that part, just that's a part of it.
Yea
lethal lagoon
I spent too much time creating this masterpiece for them to nerf shriek
The ice cream cone of the warp
Both vertically and horizontally wonderful
upper galleon
I think touching and nerfing cdr across the board instead of directly smacking shriek
Right now every class just has a stupid cdr option
hardy raft
i use a gunpsyker hybrid ep smite and it just eats hordes
upper galleon
Crit zealot, vets constantly shouting, psyker having an aura on top of the cdr on specific kills
scarlet timber
Does anyone else here btw run flame shriek with warp siphon
upper galleon
I don’t run warp charges besides purge br and that was before ep br got buffed
Charges are like, alright
clear bridge
What's Warp Siphon again...?
upper galleon
Idk EP if you are blitz focused is just better
lethal lagoon
Does anyone else here btw run flame shriek with warp siphon
Yes, that's when it's at it's best.
hardy raft
I spent too much time creating this masterpiece for them to nerf shriek
should draw voc on top
upper galleon
And it’s not like you are hard pressed to get cdr
Warp siphon is charges keystone right?
scarlet timber
I see thanks
upper galleon
Like launch psyker
hardy raft
leftmost keystone
lethal lagoon
Right now every class just has a stupid cdr option
Ability spam is fun, I can literally never go back.
upper galleon
You get cdr aura, cdr on elite/special kills, i’m already spamming ability as is
Now if i’m going void staff or purge focused
Yea i get behind it
I dont like losing all my damage and warp resistance until i build my bank back up it feels bad losing them all
hardy raft
ogryn fun
upper galleon
They really need to not make quicken baseline on warp charges
It was a terrible idea
hardy raft
eh
upper galleon
leftmost keystone
Yes so classic psyker keystone
upper galleon
eh
Losing your stacks feels bad even if they give cdr, messes with your bps and costs
hardy raft
yeah but quick shield
upper galleon
Psyker isn’t pressed for cdr options either with the aura and on spec/elite node right above the aura
upper galleon
yeah but quick shield
If your shield melts that fast you better just use a real wall
Could see a case for shield walls since they can be used reactively to stagger specials and elites
But dome? I’ve seen dome break from damage only a few times
hardy raft
dome easly braks under 10 gunners but i think the main reason for dome cdr is to provide more toughness regen
stiff falcon
But dome? I’ve seen dome break from damage only a few times
Seen it break hundreds of times
upper sun
my brother in the emperor have you seen the UIs people here play with
@lethal lagoon GO TO SLEEP
bold cape
@lethal lagoon sleep
itd be great if shield changed color for duration and started to crack when it was about to break from dmg
hardy raft
i think it does change color for durability
wish it flickered when its about to end tho
light belfry
It is that good pulling out your ds4 to poke heavy things doesn’t change that
what is the build? is it just ep smite shout burny goodstuff
ive been using a surge build that does a lot of shout and then smite to wreck stuff so that sounds fun
bold cape
I just did the EP smite build. No, Atlas is trolling. It is nowhere that good a...
this is bait
surely
hardy raft
id say it does rely on your teammates to not blindly go for the smited enemies and not help psyker
but you can dodge your way out of that
its not that hard
bold cape
it’s like
fundamentally the easiest build in the game
and you provide insane value for extremely minimal skill expression
bold cape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbmpsGODo6k
tanner..
hardy raft
like i run a gunpsyker hybrid
that runs EP smite
and it still kills everything
i just realized i finished contracts on p[syker so no psyker gameplay with smite
bold cape
i never actually use my smite on gunker
and bringing anything but dd on gunker is wild to me
hardy raft
smh smite bad buff smite
hardy raft
i never actually use my smite on gunker
and bringing anything but dd on gunker i...
assail is decent pick
for not wasting ammo every 5 seconds
bold cape
no psykinetics aura
bold cape
ds4 is like
the best weapon in the entire game imo lmao
it deals with every threat
dd + scriers has it tearing through hordes just fine
say goodbye to anything with a weakspot
hardy raft
its kinda ass against hordes even if im spamming PA from what i can tell tbh
might be me issue
i just stick to illisi for gunpsyker
and everything else with ds4
and maybe deimos if i wanna block bullets
bold cape
that’s just kinda wild to me anyway
cause you want non-peril weapon for scriers synergy
and like, ds4 1-2 shots any enemy in the game
hardy raft
in any 1v1, yes
wind spruce
https://outplayed.tv/media/wBz8J6
Duelling sword sucks please buff
hardy raft
kinda goes ham when thers 10 of them at some point
but yeah
bold cape
id understand not using it because its not fun but saying its not the best option is a little skill issue imo
hardy raft
ds4 is good i wish it was on zealot
hardy raft
id understand not using it because its not *fun* but saying its not the best opt...
best option for single target and small hordes
for dense hordes illisi works better imho
it can suck on crusher spam but it can also work a bit
bold cape
well yes it works better for hordes
ds4 is just unparalleled for versatility
hardy raft
i put illisi there
cause ds4 does suck on dense situations
only downside mind you
and maybe like you're required to have a stamina trinket
bold cape
i disagree but that’s just my experience
10 crushers? bulwarks? ragers? ez
hardy raft
im talking 30 bruisers
and other elites mixed with regular hordes
it kinds sucks on that
elite only horde? ds4 eats it
idk for me it just struggles with simple numeracy
can do until like 10 and then it kinda goes slow
bold cape
it does on my staff builds but on builds with scriers + dd it goes hard for hordes still
hardy raft
idk why but i just never enjoyed it
maybe cause im a zealot player and have a zealot mindset when playing illisi
it oneshotting muties and literally every elite in the game
is unparalleled though
if it was on zealot i imagine its gonna be severely broken
bold cape
yea and id rather have that in my melee than gun
ds4 on my gunker allows me to use my gun for like, 5% of the game
just cause it deals with everything so well
do i have the best of the best horde clear? probably not, but that’s what teammates are for
every other situation is wiped up
also, it makes me feel like saltzpyre
and saltzpyre is cool.
hardy raft
agree
bold cape
hardy raft
but im more of illisi guy
so
yea
i just gaze and then hit head repeatedly with heavy until crusher dies
slow than ds4
bold cape
illisi goes hard
horde clear is nice, i use it with surge staff
but other builds i find more use with ds4
id probably like it more if it had some sort of pcycler equivalent
bold cape
wasn’t too big a fan of the pswords until i got pcycler
hardy raft
so heads are like oneshot still
bold cape
now psword6 is one of my fav weapons in the game
bold cape
paul needs love
hardy raft
what about thammer
hearty oak
Ironhelm exists, crucius doesnt need to.
upper sun
ironhelm is perfect as is
hardy raft
we dont talk about crusis
hearty oak
Also imagine implementing Paul just came out of the box Dead on arrival and its the cover art weapon
hardy raft
unless it oneshots bosses
upper sun
who is paul and why is he dead?
hearty oak
He was an idea and the devs killed it before it had a chance to take off
hardy raft
when will saul come out
upper sun
was paul the 5th class?!
near wyvern
potent echo
Appalling
lethal lagoon
ashen schooner
cause most get to do fun stuff on crits
purge gets double burn stacks, trauma has it's soulfire build, and void gets double shots
worn beacon
What about surge?
hardy raft
surge has a dedicated modifier for more crits
worn beacon
I see
supple dock
crit for trauma = everything on fire, crit for surge = massive damage, crit on purgatus = appies 2 stacks of soulblaze, crit on voidstrike = lets you proc surge
EVERY psyker build is a crit build
worn beacon
God damn
rigid sky
I still wouldn't take crit chance on everything though
I don't think the perk is worth it on surge or voidstrike
but I would take it on purgatus and trauma
also gun builds are also crit builds but also don't want to take crit chance perk
because DD
wind spruce
I don't think the perk is worth it on surge or voidstrike
Agreed
wind spruce
because DD
Why would DD make you not want to take crit chance perk on guns?
supple dock
Isn't the setup for void flurry/transfer now?
wind spruce
Hell no
supple dock
I remember something about flurry
wind spruce
Flurry/nexus is good
supple dock
Wasn't Nexus. I think atlas was talking about it
rigid sky
Why would DD make you not want to take crit chance perk on guns?
I meant guns are crit because DD
I wouldn't take crit perk because poorer return than damage vs flak/unyielding
Flurry transfer is old void
These days Surge and nexus or flurry is best
wind spruce
I meant guns are crit because DD
Ah, right
supple dock
These days Surge and nexus or flurry is best
aaah
rigid sky
You get the funny Crusher oneshots
hardy raft
Why would DD make you not want to take crit chance perk on guns?
because true aim
i suck at aiming
so i take crit chance node
BUT
generally with good aim no need
rigid sky
Crit chance node is above true aim anyway
also tbh CIAG can't be relied on to hit the head
its cone of death is a little too wide
you'll hit the head with a few of your shots and it'll deal a lot of damage, but you're also gonna whiff a few or bodyshot
hardy raft
its cone of death is a little too wide
ads and it gets fineish
late yew
He was an idea and the devs killed it before it had a chance to take off
What idea?
marble crater
Isn't the setup for void flurry/transfer now?
You are already behind the new meta, former sibling
potent echo
Flurry nexus void
wind spruce
because true aim
True aim isn't DD homie
hardy raft
True aim isn't DD homie
yes
problem is will you use disrupt destiny without true aim?
slow heron
What idea?
Paul, taken from us too soon.... (more seriously, the Power maul weapon for the ogryn)
wind spruce
problem is will you use disrupt destiny without true aim?
...
potent echo
What kind of argument is this
marble crater
Surge, Smite, DD, now you can use DD without True Aim 
hardy raft
im sure theres like one meme build where they use trauma
or surge
with DD
idk why would you but you can
marble crater
I used Surge with DD for the DD penance 
hardy raft
god whjy
potent echo
Trauma true aim is kinda funny
wind spruce
I used Surge with DD for the DD penance <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Underrated
hardy raft
Trauma true aim is kinda funny
guess in theorey you can use like, blazing spirit + rending shockwave and spam assail to get true aim and then blast the shit out of everything
very funny
marble crater
god whjy
Because I wanted to test it, together with Assail, wasn't even that bad to be honest. Extra damage on surge was pretty nice
potent echo
Melee / assail I'm guessing
tired estuary
Just assail alone can easily maintain dd stacks
wind spruce
Because I wanted to test it, together with Assail, wasn't even that bad to be ho...
buT yUo doNT gET tHe wEaKsPOt dAmAGe
hardy raft
fair point
marble crater
For True Aim? I don't know, I was only really using it for DD meme
hardy raft
too bad surge crit is inconsistant at times
potent echo
After meleeing, you get one guaranteed surge crit which is nice
marble crater
And with surge you can also farm blue boys very reliably
hardy raft
free subscription of life ended or something lmfao
wind spruce
how did you get your stacks?
You don't even need assail to get the stacks, it can be maintained with any weapons now
hardy raft
And with surge you can also farm blue boys very reliably
only 1 stack as opposed to 4 stacks with wp kill was my concern
hardy raft
You don't even need assail to get the stacks, it can be maintained with any weap...
i forget DD is really good now
marble crater
only 1 stack as opposed to 4 stacks with wp kill was my concern
Once you are at max stacks that doesn't really matter, imo.
marble crater
But at the end I enjoyed surge with warp charges more for more shrieks
If I want to farm blue boys I use Void now
marble crater
For Blaze you really want maxed Charge and Radius, high damage and quell and then resistance as the dump
rigid sky
Want higher blast
marble crater
You could use the first one with another Trauma build I guess
rigid sky
DD is strictly for guns and void imo
marble crater
Assail is a gun
rigid sky
That is true.
wind spruce
only 1 stack as opposed to 4 stacks with wp kill was my concern
3 stacks
hardy raft
3 stacks
wasnt the last node give 3 per wp kill?
it stacks with base so it gives 4
from what i remember
basically busted but yknow
nobody plays DD correctly
split lance
You could use the first one with another Trauma build I guess
rending?
marble crater
Yeah, still not the best, but better than blaze for that staff. Not like you will have much of a choice, Hadron will decide for you
split lance
ima firm believer in
wind spruce
it stacks with base so it gives 4
nope
wind spruce
well im 100% sure it doesnt
wind spruce
it really doesnt dude
hardy raft
it really doesnt dude
welp lemme check then
hardy raft
it really doesnt dude
if it displays proper that is
i have seen it rose by 4 intervals
wind spruce
no, you havent
youve killed one regularly and one with a weakspot in quick succession
and thought it went up by 4
hardy raft
and thought it went up by 4
nope
no blue flashing
just knife a guy and it still goes up by 4 from what i remember
split lance
Yeah, still not the best, but better than blaze for that staff. Not like you wil...
better than my current?
wind spruce
just knife a guy and it still goes up by 4 from what i remember
why are people like this
you went and tested it
and now you're just denying reality
hardy raft
and now you're just denying reality
nope
split lance
bricked
hardy raft
if the game wont stop not displaying DD stacks proper i can properly test
potent echo
Nuh uh
hardy raft
stop stooging
seems to be right
idk why the 4 happens then, used a gun to kil one and it goed up by 4
does assist count as a kill
potent echo
Yes
wind spruce
the four never happens
potent echo
Assists do count as one
marble crater
bricked
It would have been better, yes. You could replace unarmored with Flak and Surge with Rending and use it though, not ideal, but other than a bit slower charge it's better than what you have now, imo
split lance
It would have been better, yes. You could replace unarmored with Flak and Surge ...
might do this
i just got off. bouta be 3am
worn beacon
Is it just me or the knife zealots are still the most obnoxious people out there
hardy raft
Yes
friendly must've immediately killed a enemy that ive hit before after me killing a enemy wp then
can confirm it goes up by 3
wind spruce
4 happened too much to be not true for me
It's not true
Be humble. Realise your memory is faulty.
hardy raft
cool, now imma spread misinformation intentionally
wind spruce
You're already doing that
hardy raft
will do
potent echo
hardy raft
can confirm it goes up by 3
anyhoo i said my test case again, i can be humble if others are
thanks btw more new info
potent echo
I'm a nice guy until I become the joker
lapis violet
I'm a nice guy until I become the joker
we live in a society
stark notch
🤡 me when my therapist diagnoses me with Autism instead of Sigma American Psycho Ryan Gosling Chad Syndrome 🤡
potent echo
I saw Ryan Gosling at a grocery store
karmic finch
Is it just me or the knife zealots are still the most obnoxious people out there
I've seen good ones.
I've also seen an overwhelming number of bad ones.
Either literally just bad, and die, or actually pretty good mechanically, but playing alone/sprinting ahead so hurting everyone (and usually die eventually anyway)
Running ahead causes more spawns, then they moan that you are being slow...
The real use of speedy characters is looting all the cubby holes to the sides. Don't move ahead of your team, zigzag like a maniac to hoover up all the plasteel.
stiff falcon
Is it just me or the knife zealots are still the most obnoxious people out there
Oi
How rude
stiff falcon
I've seen good ones.
I've also seen an overwhelming number of bad ones.
Either...
I can count the good knife zealots on one hand
As a knife zealot main
Most practical for never going down or speedrunning
Cyra and Saldar can carry even the worst lobbies
lusty seal
What stats are most important on a void staff?
lapis violet
I saw Ryan Gosling at a grocery store
literally me just straight shopping for goods so i dont starve like a beta
wind spruce
What stats are most important on a void staff?
Damage & charge rate
Blast radius is dump
sacred crane
What stats are most important on a void staff?
Charge, damage and maybe warp resis if ur like me
Blast you just kinda need above 50%
lusty seal
thanks
hardy raft
charge is good go have high
clear bridge
I've been getting some sniper lag I think
There are times I dodge, in time I'm pretty sure, and I take the damage anyways
Very sad
quartz barn
if a sniper hits you mid slide it just means you didnt time it right
usually happens if you slid too late
but tbh unless you have sniper waves or are going for the penance you should never be in line of sight
and if you are the sniper should always be focussed
stiff falcon
this could be cooking it could be bad
marble crater
Why take the not dying talents without the heal afterwards?
karmic finch
Charge, damage and maybe warp resis if ur like me
Blast radius is dump, but warp resist is close behind.
Defo not a priority
More peril means more toughness. Don't be afraid of it, embrace the brain fire.
sacred crane
I wanna fire more, not worry about looking at rising numbers
Warp res is just a me thing
karmic finch
Then learn to vent better 😛
Vent speed is a better stat than warp res
sacred crane
Plus I hate the constant needing to FUCKING PAUSE OVER AND FUCKING OVER TO QUELL
sacred crane
Then learn to vent better 😛
Vent speed is a better stat than warp res
You press R, what is there to learn
wind spruce
Plus I hate the constant needing to FUCKING PAUSE OVER AND FUCKING OVER TO QUELL
Quelling between every shot should be second nature
So you can maintain high peril for warp nexus
sacred crane
Quelling between every shot should be second nature
For me personally, I find it tedious asf to do that, Ive tried it before and have done worse and less damage in my experience, so i dont do it at all
its more of an annoyance than a gameplay tactic for me
karmic finch
Quell every shot or two, or yo-yo from 50% to 100% at least.
Get high enough quell speed and it takes 7 ticks (which are very short) to drain 100% peril, so about 14% per tick.
On void strike you can solidly do 2 ticks of quell into 2 shots.
karmic finch
But what is the point in playing psyker unless you give your friends anxiety while spectating you, as you max peril every second
sacred crane
My friends give me more anxiety because they are suck at the game and I constantly need to carry when we squad up for auric damnation
karmic finch
I do main surge staff, which is the spiciest staff
sacred crane
marble crater
or i can like, fire 5 shots, quell, fire 5 shots, quell, and be more happy
You can, but you will deal less damage and take more damage, because you will be at low peril for longer I suppose
sacred crane
I use every staff equally, i tend to hot swap between staffs a lot
sacred crane
You can, but you will deal less damage and take more damage, because you will be...
Mf its barely a difference in damage ong
Unless its a crit
Then fair enough
Or brittleness on trauma
karmic finch
On crit builds it makes a lot of difference
sacred crane
Here is the thing I wanna say: PSYKER IS ALREADY THE KING OF CRITS
I already crit a fuck ton
karmic finch
On non crit builds it's less important, but making+quelling more peril is still more toughness, so lean on quell speed and dump peril resit.
Even if you are going 0-100-0 each time, the faster you cycle peril the better your toughness economy
karmic finch
Also why that one node by warp charges that gives less peril gen is super bad
You give up a toughness regen node, to take a node that makes you regen less toughness
It's a double hit to survivability
sacred crane
Its barely a mfing difference, plus you dont even wanna be taking toughness damage in the first place
karmic finch
I mean, you will get shot
sacred crane
Shoot more = Get shot less = Less damage
karmic finch
Surge staff with lots of peril cycling means you can tank shots without caring in way higher pressure situations than low peril cycling builds
sacred crane
I use surge the least because it has the most horrid crowd clearing + forces me to take smite and I hate smite
karmic finch
Surge + shout+warp charges, take burning shout, use shout on cooldown and at max peril.
Ezpz crowd clear, you do more warpfire damage than purgatus players
sacred crane
Im sorry but as a purg user, that second statement is false and I will refuse to explain otherwise
karmic finch
I've frequently done more warpfire than purge users, it's mostly a close 2nd, but I end up above like 25% of the time in auric damnation+
sacred crane
Idk I do fuck tons of damage with purg staff, I love using it, its a fun staff + Ik you despise purg
karmic finch
I don't despise it, I want it to get buffed
It's great fun, it looks cool, it's thematically cool, it's numerically undertuned and doesn't suit the current state of the game (especially now we have another bomber type)
Don't take my hatred of the current state of purgatus (or BB) to mean I hate them overall
They need buffs
Is all
hearty oak
I don't despise it, I want it to get buffed
I think its just being played wrong. I try to keep up with zealot and keep up TB and i come out on damage nearly every game. I think of it as rolling assault and can stun everything before you hit them with the big burn, vent, then BB the big targets
You could chalk it up to experience as well. I just see a lot of purge staff users always at the bottom half of the board cause they are trying to purge that doesnt need it or keep doing it even after hitting max stacks
karmic finch
You could chalk it up to experience as well. I just see a lot of purge staff use...
Experience defo plays a role with all the staves, I see a lot of people struggling with surge as well.
Either having issues with the limited targets and not being able to kite (you can take on like 8 ragers in a small room, but you have to know what you are doing)
Or not managing peril correctly and going pop too often.
I just personally think purge doesn't offer enough value for the tradeoff of losing the long range option other staves have though, hence why I think it needs some change, to do what it currently does, and a bit more.
hearty oak
Experience defo plays a role with all the staves, I see a lot of people struggli...
I think the tradeoff for a ridiculous stun primary is fine but you have to know what you are doing. You can get close your targets by spamming slides and lighting them up with your primary. Obviously wont happen if its just a big empty room and its just filled with stalkers with no cover
What id like is a third option on staffs to replace the stupid special on the staffs. Id be ok with it being a catch-all special they all have but at least define the element they are for the staff user is using
karmic finch
I think the tradeoff for a ridiculous stun primary is fine but you have to know ...
Oh yeah, swap that garbage poke out
Would be a boring upgrade but If they gave a proper push on a wide angle that would be amazing
hearty oak
I didnt like the purge staff at all for the first 1500 hrs till i actually tried using it and then it made sense to me that its a great weapon for getting stuck in. Can stun rager packs at a click, dont even need to full charge the staff to get a lot of blaze out on people, probably the literal only reason to take warp rupture instead of creeping flames ||lmao||
And makes terrifying barrage stun enemies up to ogryns i believe
upper sun
or i can like, fire 5 shots, quell, fire 5 shots, quell, and be more happy
personally i dont care about the extra damage but "one with the warp" can be the difference between surviving an encounter or not
if you're not comfortable staying at 80 peril you can keep it around 60
rigid sky
Is it just me or the knife zealots are still the most obnoxious people out there
Not all knife zealots; but bad knife zealots are the worst, and people who don't intend to play with the team at all nearly always pick knife zealot
rigid sky
I didnt like the purge staff at all for the first 1500 hrs till i actually tried...
Actually, it's a bigger reason to take creeping flames
- More damage than warp rupture no matter what anyway
- Creeping Flames adds on top of the cap that Purgatus can reach
so if you are toasting a boss, you can generate 15 stacks via your staff and then shriek to add another 6 on top
Warp rupture is irredeemable garbage until it gets adjusted
karmic finch
so if you are toasting a boss, you can generate 15 stacks via your staff and the...
This
Creeping flames op
rigid sky
If you go shriek, you go creeping flames.
karmic finch
The times I beat purgatus builds in warpfire damage it's because I'm using creeping flames and they are not.
Though I'm not really mad if they have bubble.
rigid sky
The times I beat purgatus builds in warpfire damage it's because I'm using creep...
Bear in mind that the game cannot calculate multiple contributive sources of the same DoT properly
whoever starts the stack gets credit for all of it
upper sun
Warp rupture is irredeemable garbage until it gets adjusted
warp siphon should have all nodes connected to the central one
rigid sky
warp siphon should have all nodes connected to the central one
how is that anything to do with warp rupture
Warp rupture is the version of shriek which does direct damage
upper sun
shit i read warp siphon not warp rupture
rigid sky
Warp siphon is... I don't like it
upper sun
warp rupture is the other vent upgrade right?
rigid sky
I take it for purgatus just for the sake of taking it on one build
and because it has nice soulblaze synergies
but I don't like it
stiff falcon
rigid sky
warp rupture is the other vent upgrade right?
yeppers
karmic finch
Warp siphon is strong, but you gotta use it right
karmic finch
Take the toughness on warp charge node, and spam ability casts, don't hold your charges
rigid sky
Take the toughness on warp charge node, and spam ability casts, don't hold your ...
Yeah, it has its strengths like that
it's just the point investment
and I like what the other keystones give me more
I wouldn't take siphon on anything other than shriek
but most of the builds where I take shriek, I prefer EP or DD