psyker-class

[upper sun]

ye

surgical roulette and hand cannon

roll anything else and its bricked

[marble crater]

Evis

[upper sun]

maybe sustained can work but its a fucking bother

[upper sun]

melee weapons in general have better blessing balance

[marble crater]

Infantry Autoguns

[hardy raft]

i mean they are good

utilitywise

[upper sun]

your choices are deathspitter and firefrienzy with dumdum

[hardy raft]

well except raking fire that thing needs to burn somewhere

[upper sun]

i like raking tbh

[marble crater]

Raking Fire is fun

[hardy raft]

dumdum + alpha, i do use stripped down sometimes

its a minor choice but you can use it i guess

thats about it

[upper sun]

raking always works and it helps when trappers run away or when reapers do the weird "oh no omg im being shot" animation

my problem with deathspitter and fire frenzy is the activation range is point blank

its like 8m if im in that range ill switch to melee

[hardy raft]

i dont think it works in that cause gameplaywise even if they show "backs" they arent actually turned isnt it?

[upper sun]

yeah enemies never turn their backs 90% of the time true

[hardy raft]

anyhoo i use speedload cause gunpsyker

[upper sun]

it helps with BoN

yeah looking at my gameplay with fire frenzy

it NEVER activates

so its kind of a wasted blessing for me at least

[hardy raft]

yeah then i guess you can take anything

dumdum also only give sbonus to cqc range p sure but oh well

some say it gives power

so idk

[marble crater]

At least dumdum works on hit and not kill, still feel like close range should be increased, 8m is comically close

[hardy raft]

idk, 8m is fine in my eyes

zealot 10/10 and gunpsyker as well

[upper sun]

its fine on braced auto gun

i use them on those

[hardy raft]

its fine-ish on iag as long as you keep your aggressiveness

least iag has dumdum option

hag is...... something

[upper sun]

the two round burst fire one is alright

it has the shortest reset speed for opening salvo its kinda nice

[rigid sky]

Hag has deadly accurate

[safe fulcrum]

Lovely day for having a normal number of arms eh?

[upper sun]

GET OVER HERE

[untold niche]

anyone from vietnam here

[hearty oak]

Siblings, I had an idear. What if... for a different mk purge staff, we cast a big blue fireball

With an aoe of course that spreads fire

[marble crater]

Voidstrike with blazing spirit blessing?

[hearty oak]

It has drop-off. Like throwing something

Like... a rumbler. Except it's slower and will probably have clipping issues

[marble crater]

Sure why not, first we need to hope we can use any of the new weapon in two weeks

[hardy raft]

sure why not

[hearty oak]

I feel like a fireball type staff has to be on a list of weapons they want. Low hanging fruit and what not

[hardy raft]

i mean its not even low, its vt2

tbh i rather want beams and chorus

[sacred crane]

I love using tac axe on psyker

Cant deal with hordes or maulers in melee range

[marble crater]

Why use Taxe when you can use a DS?

[hearty oak]

Cause it's fun

Well... when you aren't running an entire loadout of memes

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-15559601663074157456

[sacred crane]

I fucking hate the armor damage of the ds

[hearty oak]

Like I ran mk16 revolver and mk7 T-axe with assail. It was fun and different

[sacred crane]

76% damage, 75% finnese, 73% penetration, +25% flak damage = 55 damage

[marble crater]

But it's great against armor

[sacred crane]

FOR ME IT DOES 55 DAMAGE

AGAINST FLAK

Trash flak mobs, gunners and shotgunners

[wind spruce]

Uh... you're using uncanny strike, right?

[sacred crane]

Its a devils sword

[wind spruce]

Lmao

What brand new burger said

[sacred crane]

I meant devils sword

My dueling sword is fire

[wind spruce]

it's called the devils claw

[marble crater]

[sacred crane]

WHATEVER i hate devils claw

Dogshit armor pen

[hardy raft]

whats ds4

ah irght dualsword

poking stick

well why would you use anything else

wish it was on zealot

would break the gamei n half

[sacred crane]

The devils claws look cool as fuck but holy shit it cant do shit against armor

[hardy raft]

well it can

you can parry overheads

[hearty oak]

Ur using it rong den

[hardy raft]

just parry it 13 more times

and you're even

i wish the parry had a blessing where it gained rending/infinite cleave/etc

more dedicated parry blessing yknow

[sacred crane]

The claws suck

If it had uncanny or ANY rendering blessing I might use it

[hearty oak]

Man. I'm sure some people would say that's impressively powerful. Some call it OP

[hardy raft]

true

me pointing at power swords

[hearty oak]

I use it all the time on my gunker. Any armor I come across, I just use BB

[sacred crane]

The only thing I like about it is the parry, but when I parry a crusher I still take damage like wtf

[hardy raft]

...you dont?

[hearty oak]

Those don't exists. We don't mention them here

[hardy raft]

airhgit fine points at illisi

[sacred crane]

I take full toughness damage on a successful overhead parry

[hardy raft]

... you shouldnt

i never did

[sacred crane]

IDK HOW TO EXPLAIN IT I EVEN TESTED IN PSYKARNIUM

[hardy raft]

thats wierd

genuinely wierd

it works fine for me

did it take like only 2 stamina?

[sacred crane]

I have no clue but it will still parry the crusher, but I still take damage

[wind spruce]

https://youtu.be/YvB0dV9qqIU?si=YEBehePcFYJH9_Ln

You don't take toughness damage.

[hardy raft]

overhead parry requires specific timing

you might have gotten the late parry where it nukes your stamina, stuns you and possibly slightly damages you(it shouldnt)

[sacred crane]

When I get home I'll send a clip

Because it will parry, but I will take damage

[wind spruce]

Ok skip to 1:05

"Getting block broken in the psykhaniun cancels the parry but this doesn't happen in the live game"

That could explain it

Idk

[hardy raft]

god p[arrying overhead but 1 poxwalker parries early and i eat the overhead was too common for me

[wind spruce]

Yeah that shit was is so frustrating

[sacred crane]

In conclusion, tac axe 7

[hardy raft]

how the fuck does he see parry's damage

great game btw

[bold cape]

dclaw my beloved

[bold cape]

i dont even have a 4, just using the 1 without the strikedown heavy
and its still pretty great

[sacred crane]

Tac axe

Satisfying to use, dogshit at hordes

[hardy raft]

mk4 is only great cause i can pull out overhead motion with a parrycancel

[sacred crane]

WRONG I INFACT DO

[hardy raft]

bromentum

[sacred crane]

Yes it is, plus its easier to M2 M1 with void

[hardy raft]

still issue

[sacred crane]

Yes it is

GO ON

[sacred crane]

Altho tac axe still feels great to use

[hardy raft]

also its hard to use this fuckign thing

[sacred crane]

Tf is this shit

[hardy raft]

oh i have a ogryn one thats worse

[bold cape]

howd you even do that lmao
i got the weapon customization mod but i cant put pieces from other weapon types on

well not to that extreme anyway

[hardy raft]

you probably only installed base mod

need mt plugin or whatever that mod is

[bold cape]

oh sick

[hardy raft]

favorite ones include but not limited to:

[bold cape]

can you like
make the ogryn knife into a normal sized knife
so he has tiny knife

[hardy raft]

..lemme look

[bold cape]

:x

[hardy raft]

also probably one of my favorite customization

idk why but the spam of seals just scream warhammer to me

[upper sun]

nice skin btw

[hardy raft]

not skin

mt lets you use all skin parts

[hardy raft]

not seeing one

but you can do this

[bold cape]

aw

[hardy raft]

probably go suggest it idk

[wind spruce]

Healthbars mod

[hardy raft]

in the

video he can see it from the uh

view attack damage thing

i cant

was there a mod for it lol

[wind spruce]

Oh

Not sure

[ornate hamlet]

what are psykers best self reliant horde clear options

[slow heron]

ok, so still broadly new to psyker but this is looking like it has reasonable potential until I can grind bases for a better top 3 stats?

my thought is to replace unstable power with uncanny strike... but then not quite sure what I'm wanting to do with the the second switch?

[wind spruce]

Trauma staff, purgatus staff

[hardy raft]

assail

[wind spruce]

Nah not assail. It helps out but it's not a horde clear by itself

[hardy raft]

assail is good at hordeclear as long as you build around it

otherwise its relegated to secondary

[lethal lagoon]

Err Assail can horde clear, but it does not function as a horde clear tool.

One horde and you are ooom

[lethal lagoon]

Flaming shriek

[hardy raft]

shrug prugatorius then

[lethal lagoon]

• EP smite

[wind spruce]

Keep crit chance and then change specialists to maniacs would be the usual recommendation

[hardy raft]

smite also does great hordeclear yea

[lethal lagoon]

Flaming shriek will alone kill all mobs, ranged mobs, bruisers, and also snipers.

[slow heron]

ace, cheers

[lethal lagoon]

Regular smite is not good horde clear

[marble crater]

Melee damage to maniac or carapace

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Unstable power is arguably better than shred depending what you're building towards

[lethal lagoon]

Illisus is great horde clear

You have to have slaughterer on it though

[slow heron]

right now? generalist honestly... I'm running a rending blast trauma staff at the moment because... well... it's what I got on the staff when I rolled one up and it feels decent ^^

[marble crater]

Shred and Blazing Spirit

[lethal lagoon]

If Blaze Trauma is S-tier, Rending is A-Tier

[slow heron]

rending shockwave pardon

[lethal lagoon]

I will literally come to your home and stare at you through the windows

[hardy raft]

blaze kinda takes longer to charge so rending is easier to use imho

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is super bad.

Please buff.

[wind spruce]

Unstable power might let you hit some breakpoints idk

[lethal lagoon]

2 crits will kill all non-elites in this circle

[wind spruce]

A lot of the time you'll be switching to deimos for a couple of jabs and you won't build shred up

[lethal lagoon]

And of course damage everything in there.

[hardy raft]

i use it myself, crit rate is still quite low

[marble crater]

I'm on the second floor (third floor for US) good luck

[slow heron]

this is what I got staff wise, I only just got psyker to 30 recently and I'm perpetually poor from Veteran stuff grinding so I'm kind of taking what I can wrangle ^^

[wind spruce]

Max crit chance is 42.5% (37.5% if you're running shriek)

[lethal lagoon]

I don't need luck.

I'm a master of stilts.

[marble crater]

Proof it, name every stilt

[lethal lagoon]

I'm actually only good at violently riding a unicycle

That's the limit of my circus ability

I remember in school we'd play last man standing on unicycles. I won a lot.

Man I'd love to play that again, but I feel like I'd actually just die if I fell as an adult.

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

I'll pretend to have a delivery order for you, and force you to come down.

[marble crater]

Evil

[hardy raft]

i use this now cause its nore generalized

[plucky flax]

That's so smol.

The man is true. I've never critted on my blaze trauma.

[lethal lagoon]

Very smol indeed.

Buff trauma aoe.

[bold cape]

im never getting auric exemplar am i
8/10 i got grabbed by a chaos spawn and fell through the map, dying
today i was at 7/10 and a teammate shot a barrel next to me sending me flying off the map

[lethal lagoon]

Based teammate

They are extending the process to increase your feeling of achievement

[bold cape]

[lethal lagoon]

They became the villain, so you could be the hero

[marble crater]

@bold cape my condolences, if you are in EU and need people who don't send you off the map I'm available

[bold cape]

NA

[marble crater]

(Not like now, but in general)

Ah

[bold cape]

i can probably play on eu tho

if my friend is oce and manages to play nae, im sure i can play eu lmao

[marble crater]

True, or I try NA, if I die because of ping it doesn't matter

[hasty breach]

i dont believe auric exemplar / storm survivor anyway when i see it

it'll happen for you or not

and waste screen real estate >.<

[marble crater]

It shows that you won't leave if you go down, at the very least, because you already have the title

[patent wing]

be me
10 min into solo scab melee
blow up due to peril

[upper sun]

surge?

[clear bridge]

Feels good to be believable

I only wear it on my Ogryn, because that's the only class I deserve it on lol

Getting good enough at the game to do Maelstroms without being downed most of the time is sooo satisfying

...but yeah, I think even those that get it legit probably throw it across all their characters

Even when it's not warranted

[clear bridge]

Untrue. Some of these assholes just can't get enough of the alt f4 lifestyle

[marble crater]

Well that's just sad then

[bold cape]

i feel like im decently good, good enough to not die
but falling through the map cause spaghetti code or getting flung off by teammates is pain

im def not gonna alt f4 cheese it

thatd be easier but i dont wanna be a dick to teammates

i know what its like to be playing auric mael and be the last one on the team cause everyone left on down

[hasty breach]

based

and depress

[marble crater]

It is, you need to play like your team is trying to kill you and ideally also shoot every barrel before you get close. I have seen too many people die at the end of that one assassination mission, after beating the boss

[patent wing]

21 min new record @ solo scab

[patent wing]

always die to some trash then this time it was grenadier

[hasty breach]

i legit do this with the noe where you upload false data -- theres that one barrel across the extending bridge and a horde starts spawning next to it and if i dont sohot it ahead of time without fail the players blow themeselves into the chasm

[marble crater]

That place is true hell for barrels, from the moment you enter

[patent wing]

btw who was the guys talkin about ep smite + shriek

its kinda better than i thought lol

it actually deals SOME dmg to carapace with that +10% upgrade

i combine it with rending trauma

[marble crater]

A lot of guys are talking about it, opinions range from "it's good" to "it's good but causes brainrot"

[thorn cedar]

it's mostly bad and it's bad because it causes brainrot

[little belfry]

Melk you weirdo

[sacred crane]

can i make it work?

[thorn cedar]

uh

[hardy raft]

limbsplitter is like the worst one you can get on a tacaxe

[thorn cedar]

probably not tbh. maybe?

i find psyker is the least capable with tac axe

but thats more for lack of attack speed

and this one would want some help lol

[jovial juniper]

If you look at the buff icon, It looks like Limbsplitter only works if you attack once every 3.5 secs

[bold cape]

anyone got any good builds using the purg staff? its my last staff just needa build for it

[sacred crane]

which is why it sucks

you gotta pause your attacks to get use out of it

[hardy raft]

which is why i use thrust over that

[sacred crane]

i dont think you can get thrust on tac axes

[hardy raft]

i meant for achylys combat axe sry

anyway yea

[hardy raft]

unlike efficiency which works just does work every 3.5 seconds

[lapis violet]

what are these psyker stats dude

[clear bridge]

I like warp charge/soulblaze/venting shriek stuff

[hardy raft]

238 hp is something

[marble crater]

Wait, so it's not +60% power every 3,5 seconds, but you actually have to stop attacking or it won't trigger again?

Worst blessing ever

[lapis violet]

psyker gets like infinite toughness regen talents

why waste curio slots on hp%

[bold cape]

what blitz you like to run with it?

[hardy raft]

well it gtive s 60% power right off the bat when you fire your gun for 3.5 seconds and then switch to melee

[bold cape]

bb im assuming

[clear bridge]

BB, yea

[hardy raft]

burst is the only really good one cause other two is for hordes

which prug has no shortage of

[clear bridge]

It's just nice to have. Pocket sniper

[marble crater]

Or I can just use my DS 4

[hardy raft]

yes

[spice veldt]

not quite since assail still works for sniping specials and whatnot

[hardy raft]

but vet doesnt have ds4

[eager token]

the virgin psword veteran vs the chad ds4 psyker

[spice veldt]

i run assail w/ purg + ds4 so i have something to knock down specials/elites as well as something to kill groups of enemies that aren't large enough to warrant the purg or are too many to warrant the ds4

[marble crater]

Vet has shovel

[sacred crane]

praying to brunt and hadron for a tac axe that i will cherise

[hardy raft]

shovel has access to limbsplitter

some actually use it with take a swing and folding shovel to have like

[marble crater]

And uncanny and thrust

[hardy raft]

+60% wp damage +60% damage right off the bat

[hasty breach]

dont name your axe cherise

[hardy raft]

i dont think its good mind you, but its a thing that exists

thrust i take over that shit every day

[upper sun]

stop playing taxes

STOP HAVING FUN RIGHT NOW

[bold cape]

be a metaslave, fun not allowed

[hardy raft]

if your gameplay consists of gunning down everything and only dealing with something like idk muties its fine to use it

but like its

kinda bad

[upper sun]

Yes zero fun allowed only hyper optimized meta builds

you need that extra 2.234 damage or else hell is gonna freeze over

[bold cape]

exactly

[hardy raft]

koreans in shellnut

[eager token]

i wish there were actual fun blessings

and not suppress enemy on weak spot hit

[bold cape]

game definitely has a 6th modded difficulty that necessitates godrolls

[hardy raft]

blazing spirit

[eager token]

is poop on everything but like two weapons

[honest robin]

melk sell me brittleness trauma staff blessing please

its amazing the things melk will refuse to sell you

still waiting for power cycler 4, i've got two veterans i check every day

[true lake]

am I using blaze trauma wrong? I tried to use it on damnation last night and it just didn't feel strong enough compared to my usual build

felt like I was hardly making a difference to the hordes

[hasty breach]

build and staff?

[marble crater]

Yeah, show build and staff

[true lake]

this build with kinetic deflection on a slaughterer deflector deimos

I figured maybe I just don't know how to use it but the staff seriously feels not as powerful as everyone suggested

[eager token]

are you edging peril

[marble crater]

Did you change the perks on the staff to crit chance and flak?

[eager token]

also i’d put flak/crit on that

[true lake]

I got those perks yes

didn't take updated pic

I try to edge peril as much as I can but even then it doesn't seem to crit much

[marble crater]

Blast radius could be bigger, but it's not so low that you should struggle

[eager token]

it’s not going to feel impactful all the time

but if you have scoreboard mod i would check your damage

[true lake]

will try to give it another try later when I'm not at work I guess

[eager token]

you are basically outputting constant soulblaze between elite kills and crits

and vent

[true lake]

just thought it might feel more immediately impactful

[hasty breach]

it's DoT. i run with EP brainburst personally and use that to supplement

[marble crater]

Maybe you are incredibly unlucky with crits

[hasty breach]

but it's a ton of damage so stick with it for a bit

[true lake]

well yeah I'm not going to get rid of it or anything

[marble crater]

Focus epicenter on big guys, burn rest with fire, profit

[true lake]

just felt like my purgatus did more

[marble crater]

Purgatus doesn't knock crushers on their ass, blaze trauma also has a somewhat bigger range

[hasty breach]

its also less boring

[marble crater]

Both can stagger and kill elites though, trauma is safer though, imo

You can be untouchable in melee basically, if you aim at your feet

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma has much secret lore as a staff

It is definitely the one that rewards experimentation the most

[hasty breach]

this is not the optimal path.

use the eyes the emperor gave you

[marble crater]

Obviously not optimal and not how you should play, unless you are actually surrounded and it makes sense to do that

That's why I used

[stiff falcon]

I got called a toxic pissbot

for keeping a reasonable pace throughout the mission

[hasty breach]

hows zealot going

but pisspot is a lame insult

[stiff falcon]

Didn’t even do a speedrun

Just kept progressing

[hasty breach]

i suspect they wanted you to stay with the group more

i assume they died and felt you were responsible

[stiff falcon]

He didn’t die

Grim holder did, to the DH he set off

[hasty breach]

who cares about grims?

[marble crater]

Penance points though

[hasty breach]

☠️

theres like 1 penance for 100 grims tho

thats so many hours of nonsense for 5-10 points

[stiff falcon]

Anyone know if maelstroms contribute to special conditions

[hasty breach]

youre really gonna choose a mission and give up qp to find a grim?

[stiff falcon]

lights out

[stiff falcon]

I did for the penance

[hasty breach]

100 times or whatever?

[stiff falcon]

ye

[hasty breach]

jesus dude

[stiff falcon]

speedruns

[tired estuary]

Gotta put on the grims penance border and let fuckers know whats up

[hasty breach]

figures

maybe you should slow down in missions like your team wanted dorn tbh

savor the worldbuilding or sumthin

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

update will fix it

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

update

[marble crater]

I want to test if low resistance is actually better for purgatus, to get the high peril bonuses sooner

[upper sun]

tbh

i think it makes very little difference

[marble crater]

Not sure how I will test it though, other than through feeling

[upper sun]

record then count frames

do it a couple of times to eliminate crit difference

[marble crater]

Yeah that's not happening

Rather going to finish my final class penance now then I can play whatever I want

[upper sun]

hell yeah

how many pp points so far?

[marble crater]

4420

[stiff falcon]

I was close

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[stiff falcon]

30-40 meters

[upper sun]

im at 4520

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

damn

you're gonna unlock the new tier before they release it

[marble crater]

what a mission

2 psykers doing their best poxburster impression

[stiff falcon]

What a mission

Knife got me to 1k

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma veri baad

[true lake]

don't get me wrong it definitely staggers far better than my purgatus

[upper sun]

no trauma bad

[true lake]

but I preferred my BB EP with flat shields more, felt like I was having more of an effect on the field

[plucky flax]

I would link unsanctioned's video but he's a bitch.

He simps for blaze trauma too much.

[marble crater]

I think it was already linked

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

Or maybe not Atlas said the guy in the video was good

[plucky flax]

Mr. Unsactioned.

Guy is cheater with mods though.

[true lake]

cheater?

[plucky flax]

[hardy stump]

is there power cycler for psy swords?

[feral verge]

nope

[upper sun]

nope

your choices are slaughter/uncanny depending on the sword and slaughter/uncanny/unstable/executor/deflector

[bold cape]

wish there was a mod or something to get rid of the max peril noise, its obnoxious af when edging peril and triggers my tinnitus for some reason

[marble crater]

Or you can just turn the volume down in the options

[bold cape]

true but that turns down all volume
i like my sounds

[patent jacinth]

I think theres a mod somewhere

Might be wrong

[marble crater]

There is a setting just for peril

[bold cape]

holy shit there is
its in interface instead of audio for some reason

thats a godsend

[cosmic sigil]

you can also remove ping noises

[marble crater]

Because it also adjusts the visuals

[spice veldt]

though the audio is prob what people are going to notice

the 200iq thing to do here would be to just split them up into peril sfx and peril vfx

[dusk void]

This mission took forever to complete lol

[bold cape]

longest mission is 50 some minutes

[dusk void]

Yup, I've been on that

[bold cape]

it was auric damnation but it felt like a 6th difficulty lmao
director was pissed that time

[dusk void]

I believe the director didn't want us to finish a room. Bombers, gunners, rangers, the whole gang showed up.

We were just striaght killing and dying

[eager token]

i had a maelstrom with pox gas, monstrosities, specialists and snipers and it was borderline not fun

took an hour lol

on carnival

which is the worst map for sniper spawns probably awful

[urban hearth]

3700 is a LOT for 38 minutes

thats easily +1000 on the average for a mission that long

still

could be worse

[half turtle]

fffffffffff

[marble crater]

sad

[hearty oak]

Yeah like that wasnt even that hard. Its just people like to think its difficult or something

and freak out and speed off and die

[hearty oak]

warrens 6-19. The actual worst map for everything

[bold cape]

nooooooooooooooo a riposte 4 uncanny 4 ds4 in melks but it has damage as a dump stat

[hearty oak]

Does it even lose that much damage?

[lyric burrow]

depends

if its 60 maybe not

if its 40 pribably

not sure on ds4 scaling\

[upper sun]

gotta draw the line somewhere

[marble crater]

Buy it and hope the update let's us swap stats

[clear bridge]

Interesting - you're having trouble? Highly recommend the Illisi

[upper sun]

did it with columbus

i recommend vigil station

and prayer for non bugged spawns

[half turtle]

yeah i've just been spraying with the columnus

[jovial juniper]

I did it with the recon 6d, the 7a also has cleave, but you might not like the RoF

[eager token]

playing on malice for the 100 games with no one going down

and some guy just walks into a daemonhost

[quartz gale]

Where is a good place to ask for some homies to help with Malleus Monstronum? I got 99/100 psyker missions and that for finishing all my class penances 🙂

[hardy raft]

just ask in lfg

used to be worse

best bet is to get a shield ogryn and a daemonhost

[supple dock]

weakened monstrosities also work

[cinder moon]

monstrous specials count?

[dusk void]

I believe any monstrosity counts

[turbid bison]

so this is where people go to meme and complain about cliffhanger?

[hearty oak]

Swap stats
I anticipate being able to reroll stats with no control to what they come out to

for better or worse ||Always for worse||

[potent echo]

There was some legacy overclock code in the source code

Basically you roll for stat changes, like +10 damage -10 mobility or something, and I assume it will let you go over 80

Not sure who found it though, was post here months ago

[true lake]

going to say it again, they should have just copy pasted the idea from VT2

[potent echo]

Make DT VT2 again

[true lake]

no reason to do this whole only change 2 perks/blessings

no idea why they even came up with that idea in the first place

should be as simple as "have resources, allow total weapon reroll"

[potent echo]

Because they hate us

Or someone on their team loves diablo type loot

With nonsense locks and rolls

[bold cape]

cause it makes the hunt for a godroll potentially endless
they use it to bump up playtime but i feel like most people who play are only here for the gameplay, and the shitty crafting system is a big reason why so many have left

[true lake]

at same time we shouldn't have too much direct control or there would be no real sense of progression or use for the resources at all

[bold cape]

personally if the crafting update isnt great, imma take a long break cause im a little bit done with it

i dont care about getting the perfect 380 weapon with level 4 blessings
i just want fun, serviceable builds on all my characters
and i dont like being punished for wanting to try something different
the current system just funnels you into the meta options and discourages trying new things

rng sucks, just flat out, gambling not good

[potent echo]

It's mainly to hide the fact that they have so few weapons

I guess they came up with the whole mark thing as they wait for James to approve more weapon types

[true lake]

I mean eh... I feel there is a decent selection, even with variants factored out

[potent echo]

I assume alot of their work goes down the drain because of James

Like power greatsword

Or force greatsword

[true lake]

could definitely be higher but there is enough variety to make it interesting

[bold cape]

you know why talent/skill trees with no refund cost are great? because you're encouraged to try new things, pick off-meta builds, and experiment for free, you are not punished cause you wanted something different
same applies to weapons

there should be some sort of cost ofc, and there should be some sort of resource dump implemented so they aren't useless
but this system aint the answer to that issue

[true lake]

which is wht I like the VT2 system

granted you get like 3 items per chest and are guaranteed a chest after each run, with items scrapping into the resources

[hearty oak]

Waiting on the helldivers 2 balance patch

[true lake]

so not quite the same at all

[bold cape]

vt2 system isnt my favorite, cause you have infinite resources about 30 hours into the game and there's no progression after leveling

then again, playing for fun trumps playing for the rng carrot dangling in your face

[true lake]

but in VT2 you get to infinitely reroll with 0 consequences other than using scrap resources

[potent echo]

VT2 you get stuck opening sound 200 chests every few months

[true lake]

I mean yeah, it ain't perfect itself, but it's 100% better than DT currently

[potent echo]

For sure

[bold cape]

with that i will definitely agree

[hearty oak]

Its a low bar to meet

[potent echo]

Yes

But we're still here

[true lake]

need a nice balance where we can easily build as we need to but don't have full control over everything in the system

[bold cape]

if this was literally like
any other game
i wouldve dropped it
but fatshark knows how to make some damn good gameplay loops

[true lake]

mainly because I don't trust the gameplay to make up for full build freedom

[bold cape]

id also like to see a 6th difficulty implemented
then again it probably wont happen because the game needs to run on consoles
and from my friend's experience on the xbox series x, it already runs like dogshit on heresy+ lmao

[spice veldt]

no because we already have 7 difficulties (5 + 2 auric)

[true lake]

yeah auric damnation already pushes it pretty hard

[spice veldt]

just balance the existing difficulties

[cinder moon]

consoles been holding back games just for platform longevity's sake for 20 years

[bold cape]

true

[spice veldt]

and fatshark have put themselves into this corner

because they raised the enemy count to counteract the increased player power level

[true lake]

at least DT doesn't have the main issue with VT2 highest difficulty: entire groups of banner bearers

[potent echo]

Even more elites

[spice veldt]

they just need to nerf the enemy count and buff the individual enemies

[cinder moon]

that method is boring

[bold cape]

enemy density is fun shit

[spice veldt]

you talk like i'm saying to nerf it to the ground

[cinder moon]

it's what AFE did and fighting 20 bullet sponges is boring

[half turtle]

nerf the individual enemies, buff the enemy count

[potent echo]

Keep density for poxwalkers

[spice veldt]

the enemy density was already fine back then

[half turtle]

i want to play uprising HISTG

[spice veldt]

just fuckin nerf it back to pre-buff levels

it's that simple

[cinder moon]

having a horde game with actual hordes is unique

[true lake]

enemy density is already high enough that we have metas for burning them in seconds and ignoring the enemy count in the first place

[spice veldt]

yeah??? I'm not saying to annihilate the enemy count

nerf =/= nerf it to the ground

[true lake]

gameplay is almost entirely managing the elites and specials left over

[spice veldt]

there is a such thing called nuance or doing things in moderation

[cinder moon]

how far back is "back then"

i don't remember enemy counts being particular dense during early access

[spice veldt]

how am i supposed to know

just some vague number that feels fine

but we certainly don't need 20 ragers spawning up our asses

[bold cape]

nuance???? you mean there's a gray area between black and white? nonsense

[spice veldt]

an explicit endless spawn mode would also be nice

[potent echo]

Hard to find everyone's goldilocks spot though

[spice veldt]

so that players would learn to fight and move forward

[spice veldt]

"good enough" is good enough

[half turtle]

auric seditions when

[potent echo]

My plasteel

[cinder moon]

that happened on occasion in the early days; high int wouldn't stop spawning poxwalker hordes

it was funny

back when high int was called "endless horde"

[spice veldt]

yeah that's the main experience i'm drawing from

[potent echo]

They sort of replicated it didn't they

[spice veldt]

usually happening on excise vault

[bold cape]

this would be fun
no current enemy cap modifier
then again like i said tho
game has to run on consoles
and its already struggling as is

[potent echo]

Poxwalker hordes are like a drawn out shit trickle of them

[spice veldt]

i just mean a constant trickle of spawns that annoy you

not like constant horde mode all the time

[bold cape]

oh i see

[cinder moon]

nah, open a door, get on the floor, everybody smash the walker horde

[true lake]

game already has issues on some people's computers too, even more enemy count ain't helping anything lol

[bold cape]

i suppose i just want chaos

[spice veldt]

but still sufficient to slow your pace if you attempt to stand your ground and fight them

[potent echo]

I think they also combined hiint with more elite spawns at some point too

[spice veldt]

sure, but the idea is that, if it's an explicit mode, players can avoid it

an implicit opt-in system

so that we can just sidestep the "but it'll perform badly on consoles argument"

[bold cape]

yea just remove it from quickplay

[true lake]

speaking of harder difficulties I still need to do the twins

[cinder moon]

hi int was allegedly always supposed to be "more specials", but its original designation of "endless horde" gave people the wrong impression, hence the name being changed

[true lake]

didn't have good runs with randoms last I tried

[bold cape]

speaking of the twins
reading through the penances theres a "secret hard mode"?

[half turtle]

yes you have to hit some bells in a particular order

[true lake]

yeah there is a sequence of bells you hit

[potent echo]

Yea it should be enabled by default now...?

[half turtle]

there's a steam guide

[true lake]

it's online I saw guides

[potent echo]

You don't need to hit the bells anymore afaik

[bold cape]

oh neat, ill have to look into that

[true lake]

though tbh they suck ass normally

[potent echo]

Unless you want the penance

[half turtle]

hmm hard to check bc once you beat it it spawns a skip bell

[true lake]

I haven't beat it so I could check?

[potent echo]

One patch mentioned they just let it be unlocked for everyone

[true lake]

idk what to check tho or what to look for

[half turtle]

o cool

[potent echo]

Was some time ago

[half turtle]

like it spawns the skip bells for everyone now?

[potent echo]

Yea

[half turtle]

it'd be right at the beginning on the left side of the starting room there's a frame with 2 bells on it

[potent echo]

Idk about the hard mode one though couldn't check for myself because I already did it

[half turtle]

right side hardmode, left side normal, teleports you to the heal room before the fight if everyone hits it

[true lake]

will try to check it out then

what does hard mode even do? Just high int the spawn phases?

[half turtle]

mostly hardmode twins is harder (IMO) bc it spawns a ton of annoying ranged guys

the main differences are more spawns, and also more spawn variety

so iirc it adds crushers, shotgunners, and basic shooter squads to the spawn list

[bold cape]

is it gonna be added to the normal mission pool eventually? would think so

[true lake]

idk why it would be

[half turtle]

also the twins themselves get more hp/stagger res/attack more/etc

so e.g. the gas mine dude throws like 4x as many gas mines

[bold cape]

why not? auric maelstrom twins sounds great

[half turtle]

but yeah since it's a pretty big flat room with no cover in it, shotgunner and shooter squads are pretty annoying

[true lake]

not to mention having to haul ass to one of the giant fans during the hordes too

[half turtle]

yeah there's some "tricks" to it, like ogryn with extended range taunt can stand in the middle and pretty much hit everything on the map by pressing F, but it's definitely finickier and requires a bit more, like, "raid discipline" or whatever than normal mode

where you can kinda just hit stuff until it all dies

[bold cape]

also wish i saw hab dreyko more

[half turtle]

ive played it like 3-4 times the last 2 days actually

it's been showing up a lot for me

[bold cape]

pff wow
ive played it like three times in 150 hours

played an auric mael on it yesterday and it was probably my most fun game

[half turtle]

oh yeah me too actually

[bold cape]

the end room was just so chaotic
almost wiped a couple times, it was 10/10

[half turtle]

they made the end room geometry a lot less obnoxious

altho the piles of crap in the corner where specials spawn and drop onto are still really annoying for trauma psyker

but they got rid of the dead end rooms, which is nice

[bold cape]

trauma? imagine using trauma...pssh id never use it
(salty after spending all my resources on trying to roll one)

[half turtle]

oh are you looking for like blazing spirit/warp nexus with +crit

that's an easy 1-2M docket sink right there

[bold cape]

yea i am

[half turtle]

you can probably do fine with warp nexus 3 fwiw

it's like 2% crit

[bold cape]

i have a decent one but id have to pick between 5% crit and flak

[half turtle]

hmm

the one i currently run is like a 350 with +crit and +elite damage and it does fine

i think the perks aren't that important

[hardy raft]

i like high int

[bold cape]

mines 10% crit dmg

[half turtle]

oh yeah that sucks LOL

[bold cape]

[hardy raft]

tbh its useful when you try to 3shot a crusher and/or 3shot a bulwark

[half turtle]

but tbh it's probably usable

[bold cape]

i have pretty good void/purg/surge staffs so im not too miffed about it

[half turtle]

yeah but in my experience trauma bps aren't that big of a deal

you can pretty generously 1-tap trappers and bombers and stuff i think, even with shit perks

[urban sandal]

I thought you needed maniac to 1 shot trappers

[hardy raft]

i dont think i have yet, but you stun them regardless

[half turtle]

hm i'm like 90% sure trappers are flak so i would be very surprised by this

[hardy raft]

they are maniac

[urban sandal]

trappers are maniac

[hardy raft]

half the specials are maniac

which is why its kinda popular

[half turtle]

hm

[hardy raft]

(both flamers, trapper, mutie)

[bold cape]

my friend rolled a perfect trauma with like 100k dockets and like 2 games of mats so im mildly envious lmao

[half turtle]

well i don't have +maniac and i 1shot them with fullcharge

with like 70% damage roll

[true lake]

I lucked out with my trauma too

[hardy raft]

they have 750 damage, i assume you have warp charges so +20% damage

or something

[half turtle]

yeah i run 4 (but not 6) warp charges and warp rider

[hardy raft]

two i use

also not 6 warp[ charge is criminal

[half turtle]

works fine most of the time tho

[true lake]

does the 2 charges really make that big of a difference if you are using the shriek often?

[half turtle]

i think i'd be able to 1tap muties if i had 6 but it hasn't felt that important to me because you can just hit them again as they run by

[hardy raft]

i go for never using shriek

[eager token]

its also for raw damage and peril reduction

[hardy raft]

better to cast 11% peril trauma spam

than trying to use shriek and getting back to 22%

[true lake]

I mean I know that, just kinda figured most people use the shriek often

[half turtle]

hmm shriek is really good damage for mauler/rager packs

[hardy raft]

it is but trauma stgger just fucks them over regardless

[half turtle]

and decent panic button for surprise trappers

[hardy raft]

and yea

thats the only real time i use it

otherwise just spamming trauma

[true lake]

trapper getting burned to a crisp after they spawn behind you

[hardy raft]

trapper also gets stunned by trauma blast

[half turtle]

i actually don't care much about peril reduction

peril gen is my dump stat

i'm going from 90 -> 100 nonstop anyways so it doesn't super matter

[hardy raft]

i recommend getting one with 6 warp charge at one point cause it makes 5 from 0->100 to 10

[half turtle]

yeah i've tried 6 warp charges

i actually like generating more peril

because peril is toughness

and peril is stagger on F

and etc

crit, damage, whatever whatever

i can vent enough during a slide to get another pop off anyways

mostly i'm running warp charges for the CDR on shout

[bold cape]

id spend more on trying to get a better trauma but i think itd be best if i focused on bettering my vet/zealot options first
seeing as i already have decent builds on psyker

[urban sandal]

I'd wait until the itemisation update before spilling a bunch of mats trying to get a good one

[bold cape]

true

i already dumped most of my shit, should probably start saving

tho i was tempted to try and roll a good psword

[potent echo]

I don't like WC peril resist for these reasons

Harder to edge, also not consistent because you don't really know what's your edge %

[half turtle]

yeah i'm 90% sure i actually run the "heal toughness on getting a WC" one instead but i'm too lazy to check rn

[potent echo]

It's a nice budget version of vet confirmed kill

[hardy raft]

i use toughness on warp kill so it matters little to me

but for other situations its def useful

[bold cape]

nvm i gambled a little and was swiftly reminded that was an awful idea

[half turtle]

k e k

rolling items sucks

i don't even mind that it's a huge resource sink

[hardy raft]

i did got cycler in about a week

[half turtle]

if i could just push a button to spend 3M dockets and 20k plasteel or whatever for a 360+ weapon with the correct blessings i would

but it is just so much effort to press the buttons and go between all the stations and shit

even with mods

[hearty oak]

Altf4 survivors i swear

[half turtle]

wow 1M+ damage

sounds like a shit game LOL

[hardy raft]

other for 57 min

[bold cape]

i mind
because im still fairly new
and dont have a lot of resources or many builds to play with

psyker is still the only character i have thats like
got good shit on it

[half turtle]

oh yeah i mean it also sucks that it's a huge resource sink don't get me wrong

[hearty oak]

It was. Rat zealot was doing nothing to help but altf4'ing when going down

I had to slow roast all 3 bosses

[half turtle]

classic zealot tbh

it also always feels extra shitty to do the bosses solo on psyker

[bold cape]

hate doing bosses on psyker unless im on my gunker
then i huff a combat stim and the boss is gone in 4 seconds

[half turtle]

tru

if you're running a staff though it can get pretty obnoxious

[bold cape]

on my surge staff it also aint bad
cause i can focus more on dodging and such

and i have unyielding on it

[willow girder]

Any psykers got the praesimiagoria mk IX rebreather and know if it has that vox voice change like the mk IC?

[jovial juniper]

Is the mk IC the golden one?

[dusk void]

This?

[stone totem]

Crit on purgatus is pretty much useless, right?

[sacred crane]

no, it applies double stacks and crits SUPER often

[echo turtle]

Pretty sure the one with the best vox change is the darker one with gold trim or soemthing

They all modulate though, but differently

[lapis violet]

2 scrier's gaze psykers absolutely ripped to shreds by a map that decided to give us not a lot of ammo

[bold cape]

i was under the impression that its actually very important

cause 2x soulblaze

[true lake]

crit is more useful than it sounds on purg

you would think it wouldn't matter

[bold cape]

i have a scriers purg build ive been meaning to try out
been busy using the void

[lapis violet]

doesn't help that there's 2 other shotgun vets and there's not a single ammo regen aura going around

[bold cape]

im actually shocked at how many vets i run into that dont run survivalist

[signal sluice]

They’re salty about the “nerf” to survivalist I reckon

[bold cape]

still the best option tbh

i mean i dont use very much ammo when i do bring a gun so i dont mind that much
but like
yknow

[willow girder]

yes

[true lake]

i would assume most vets rely on their guns?

kind of their bread and butter

[dusk void]

I mean, what else would they use 😂. I believe vets also have good melee weapons though

[lapis violet]

vet is like the one class that needs to try to be useless in melee

you're only ever ranged only if you go full left tree

other than that you're good at any range but like

[signal sluice]

Don’t sleep on Vet melee. That +30% weak spot damage talent applies to melee damage and ranged

[lapis violet]

i wasn't struggling too bad but the problem was, the 2 vets got downed and it was only the scrier's gunkers who then ran out of ammo, which means they had to fight through a big fucking horde with nothing but scraps of ammo left, blitzes and melees

they did it, thank the master, but damn was it a painful watch to then see them take all of the ammo when i was at literally 0

[bold cape]

funnily enough gunker is the last build id run out of ammo on, the ds4 handles just about every situation just fine
gun only comes out in emergencies and for bosses

[lapis violet]

you don't understand how little ammo we were being given

[swift vault]

Revolver psyker is so fun

[bold cape]

as in a lot of games i wont even need any ammo pickups using the columnus

[swift vault]

also butting in to ask about the illisi, should I use unstable power 4 or riposte 4? I like running high peril a lot, but the illisi is a headshot machine

[manic halo]

should have THOUGHT harder and got it before themm smhm

[bold cape]

i use uncanny/slaughterer on my illisi

[swift vault]

I kinda...forgot what my other blessing was but I've been between those two a lot

tbh I just dont like running slaughterer, kinda feels like cod stopping power on some weapons

as in I'd be stupid not to use it, but im stubborn

[true lake]

slaughterer slaps really well on deimos

other FS not so much i feel

[bold cape]

tho i only have my illisi on one of my builds
ds4 goes way too hard to drop it

[true lake]

i definitely recommend trying out a slaughterer deimos

its not quite ds4 obviously but that thing goes hard

[bold cape]

if it comes around in melk or something ill try it

[true lake]

like idk what it is, other than my bias for it because i have been using it so long

but it just feels amazing to use

[swift vault]

dueling swords are cool, but ive been spoiled by the force sword's absurd shove

[cinder moon]

wat? it's perfect for illisi

[true lake]

i mean yeah it works on illisi perfectly fine obviously

[bold cape]

become spoiled by being able to 2 shot crushers by poking them to death

[swift vault]

I prefer to whip out the rooty tooty point and shooty for em

the zarona penetrates armor really well, save for like bulwark shields

[split lance]

whats a perfect trauma staff look lik e

or at least the best blesings

[true lake]

there is rending variant and blazing variant

[split lance]

ty

i was bouta ask what dwayne meatn lol

[true lake]

yeah mb

rending is pretty nice but most people prefer blazing trauma for the huge AoE and horde clear

rending is more precise and really good at focusing down more unique enemies

[split lance]

this is my current and i know it could be way better

mind you i dont have all blessings

yea

lol 3376 but not that great

fr?

so worth upgrading?

[true lake]

should serve just fine

[split lance]

what to change

crazy roll actually

haha

isnt that what it is

flak and maniac ima choose

ooooooooooooooooooooof

lmao

[true lake]

i mean its fine

if you dont want to use that one at least take one of the blessings from it

[split lance]

i have flurry 4 so ima take rending

but

i wanna try it first

it cant be that bad right

[true lake]

yeah try in meat grinder

nah, just more damage would help a lot on rending variant specifically

[split lance]

nope gonna go right into damnation regualr

yea

tried rolling for blaze, didnt get it

[true lake]

speaking of i got to try it out a bit more

[supple dock]

`

oops, sry

😄

[true lake]

wise words

[wind spruce]

Do not, for the love of the Emporer, listen to anyone who suggests carapace on a trauma staff

[split lance]

uh oh

[true lake]

i mean for rending its not really an issue

most people recommend flak because its what you will be going through a lot

[wind spruce]

You definitely want flak

[true lake]

rending kind of makes up for some of it because it ignores armor altogether, does some weird equation forgot how it worked

[wind spruce]

And then probably maniac

Carapace tho... it's literally one enemy. Suggesting that is a major yikes

Unyielding would be preferable

[true lake]

usually if youre running trauma you are running BB anyway, which will always be more efficient than trying to use trauma to focus down a crusher

or your melee, which some melees can easily fuck up crushers for you

[hardy raft]

i use carapace

[true lake]

carapace is more of a breakpoint thing

but again it doesnt really apply to much

[hardy raft]

only applies to 1 enemy for trauma

unfortunately it still does immense stsgger to care imho

i would've liked flak but oh well

me running blaze trauma kinda feel like rending trauma is easier to use

blaze snowballs way better

but it can suck on sucky situations where rending would abuse flurry to bullshit its way out

[bold cape]

the voidstrike is my new favorite thing in this game i think

i dunno how im outdamaging ep smitekers but i am

[hardy raft]

well yer killing their damage by driving 2 force bowling balls down the lane duh

[bold cape]

i love aiming at head height, proccing surge and watching everything just die in front of me

[hardy raft]

surge is fun to proc

[bold cape]

its mildly inconsistent but when it does crit ohh it is satisfying

[split lance]

ok i did a mission

the dmg isnt TOO bad

can tell its lower

[true lake]

keep the staff then until you roll one with better base stats and upgrade it

should hold you over just fine

[split lance]

ill def roll better hopefully

but i also do need to get blaznig

[supple dock]

🙂

[sacred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/garn47-car-garn47-car-im-come-you-gif-12994968625161885101

anyways, is it worth it?

near quad 80's

i alr have a blaze trauma, tryna make a flurry one

[split lance]

I shoot every barrel I see. I’ve done more self dmg than enemy damage to me

[sacred crane]

what about this one?

[split lance]

For blaze yes I think

[sacred crane]

keep in mind:

[split lance]

Oh I didn’t read that

Flurry/rending right

Well

This is mine

and i liked it

used it once

but very bnice

[sacred crane]

with the second staff?

its so over

[hardy raft]

perk selection sucks

but leadt you got rending 4

only one that matters tbh its between 2 hits for full rending or not

[sacred crane]

maybe?

[split lance]

its okay, wanna see my bricked illisi

[sacred crane]

OK MAYBE

quell speed if kinda

[split lance]

https://tenor.com/view/parry-the-brick-cat-brick-gif-12434521752515824966

[sacred crane]

can i make it work for flurry

[split lance]

quell speed pain

[sacred crane]

i alr bring solidity with staffs so

[split lance]

jokes on you

idk what that means

[sacred crane]

kys hadron

too late, sold it for warp nexus 4

[potent echo]

Urafting cpdate

[sacred crane]

ok chat...it can be done

just replace sprint effiency and sustained fire

chefs kiss

[hardy raft]

perfect, gratz

id take carapace with flak btw

crushers still get stunned and rending does most of the damage increase

if you really wanna kill crushers quicker then sure

[sacred crane]

i alr took carapace

[hardy raft]

you dont have 200 plasteel to change it back?

sadge

[split lance]

combat knife is good right

?

Bunt is selling

[hardy raft]

both are bad perks

[split lance]

ok

i no buy

[hardy raft]

it has haymaker so

hoping they add haymaker to more things at one point

total of 20%

its still very low

but with psyker/zealot you can spam the PA which counts as a heavy

haymaker is one of the few blessings that goes in warp charge kinda stack where it only goes down by 1 every cooldown

would be real useful if it wasnt luck based

yes

it used to works on bulwark shields, apprantly

fun days of spamming heaby on bulwark shield to make it commit die

it does tell you it stack 5 times

unless you play on a bad translation like korean lmfao

no

its that, and theres stacks 5 times after that

[upbeat wedge]

3.. time 5 is.. 15? not 20?

Am I missing something here? LOL

[hardy raft]

lvl4 haymaker is 4

hes just keep saying lvl3 haymaker lolz

[upbeat wedge]

Right okay that makes more sense

level 3 should only give you 15% chance, level 4 is 20

[light belfry]

if i throw crit chance and blazing spirit on this itll be a decent fire trauma right

[bold cape]

man

[rigid sky]

Yeah that's almost perfect tbh

Crit chance is what I go with as the secondary

[quartz barn]

Wouldnt flak 4 be better than crit 4?

[tired estuary]

and get stuck with +crit dmg? nah

[rigid sky]

Crit damage is shit

Almost a completely dead perk

[quartz barn]

Oh wait ye mb

[rigid sky]

5 point higher flak modifier would be nice but it's not gamechanging

ah you thought it already had crit chance

[quartz barn]

Didnt notice it has crit dmg instead of crit chance

[upper galleon]

Thing is with fire trauma i dont think the chance perk is worth it if you got nexus, the 25% damage perks apply to your fires which you will get from talents as well, so a tiny bit more blazing procs isn’t worth it imo

It’s not like surge blessing on void staff where if it crits, you stagger monstros and massively boost impact damage from having 2 crit shots

[light belfry]

and with a weapon where you are going to be slamming enemies around constantly you will probably end up getting the crits during an engagement

vs void being a oneshot weapon with the crit with surge

so that makes sense

what dyou reckon would be best second to flak

[upper galleon]

Hmm depends

Maniac or unarmored, maybe unyielding or elites

PC procs are the most important with maximizing fire so you want elites to die

[bold cape]

wonder if i should replace carapace with crit chance on my surge voidstrike

[upper galleon]

I wouldn’t tbh if you’d lose a crusher BP

That is still important

But it is up to you

[bold cape]

ill prolly experiment tomorrow

[tired estuary]

def not on void b/c true aim + nexus should be enough to ensure crits

[quartz barn]

This heavily depends on your playstyle and preferences

[bold cape]

should probably be meleeing more then

[quartz barn]

I peronally have crit/flak and like the neutral surge procs

But im always in the middle of the horde anyway, or beam down the side

[tired estuary]

tbf this is true for a lot of psykers lol

[quartz barn]

The only enemy you really notice the slowerish kill on are bulwarks, crushers are only a real threat when in groups, but even then you stagger whoever you hit

[late yew]

What would be better blitz for DS + laspistol crit build?

[bold cape]

well i melee when i need to
it’s not like i forget about the tools in my kit
i just usually stay a bit further back and shoot into dense hordes or elite groups

but yea im probably not getting as much use out of true aim as i should

[light belfry]

stacking up true aim at the end of an engagement or as you run past poxxers is good

[bold cape]

yea that’d be a good idea