it's insane
#psyker-class
slender coyote
stiff falcon
nobody playing auric in eu big sad
slender coyote
it's 6am dude
upper sun
nobody playing auric in eu big sad
My brother in the emperor it is 630 am
upper sun
no one is up
bold cape
hop over in na
plenty of no lives playing 24/7 in na (me)
bold cape
ive played in oce
it’s an experience
spice veldt
two west coast psykers named society 😔
hearty oak
Im so used to having perfect timing on. But is it needed for purge staff?
lyric burrow
two west coast psykers named society 😔
they are all caps at least
upper sun
Im so used to having perfect timing on. But is it needed for purge staff?
yes
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c39d463-1cc1-4b31-a1e6-6656dbc7f336/fired-up use this build i just found by chance
potent echo
Im so used to having perfect timing on. But is it needed for purge staff?
It's free 20% damage for the direct damage and DoT, nothing to hate
stiff falcon
ez heresy auric
potent echo
Gaming
short plaza
ez heresy auric
To see a player named zealot in the psyker channel gives me unsecure vibes, I've noted they tend being less acceptive of psykers than the others 😂
short plaza
I'll rename my characters as Ogryn since it's the only class I don't play
Even better : "BestOgrynAround"
On the other hand I like the ogryn players, they tend giving me some space to zap ennemies
I wouldn't want to trigger them 😢
supple dock
AnAverageOgryn
short plaza
There's an idea there
raw coral
Is there a skudie in here? Cause if so, that half naked psyker rocks
short plaza
Half naked psyker proving the point of "mind over matter" I guess? 😂
potent echo
The brain needs the gamer chair more than the butt does
cosmic sigil
Is there a skudie in here? Cause if so, that half naked psyker rocks
Yes.
Welcome to the Skudieverse. Everyone is naked.
stiff falcon
Is there a skudie in here? Cause if so, that half naked psyker rocks
@austere crest
eager token
only half naked? u sure that’s the real skudie!!!!
narrow herald
soo close 😔
stiff falcon
You can have my 545
short plaza
not blessings
I'd say unyielding and carapace ? Now perhaps I'm wrong but the surge staff charging so quickly already I'm not sure we need warp flurry on it?
I'm ready to believe terrifying barrage can be more useful than flurry when sliding near a bunch of shotgunner or reaper but yeah, not worth locking a slot
Alright I can be wrong on that, I still lack experience in the different traits
upper sun
my god, an empeors gift that's actually good <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
f-free perks
upper sun
aight siblings, what blessings we bringing
never use surge
youll keep chasing the perfect surge dragon
youll spend millions
but youll never be happy
stark notch
Balance and enjoyable are words I didn't expect to be used when talking about a Darktide run
cosmic sigil
what difficulty are you playing?
stark notch
i think i gotta swap off psyker bc skissue
Noooo, how else will you learn
cosmic sigil
and what build are you running?
split lance
currently heresy
trauma mk4 deuling and assail
im trying to learn the deauling sword but damn am i not good with it
stark notch
Could swap assail for smite, or dueling sword for illisi if you want
split lance
tbh i liked ilisi way more but all i hear is that deuling is so much better
stark notch
im trying to learn the deauling sword but damn am i not good with it
Are you going in melee with the dueling sword, or pulling it out when something comes near you?
Cause if you're doing the former, it explains why you're dying =-='
stark notch
tbh i liked ilisi way more but all i hear is that deuling is so much better
Nah, both are great, but serve different purposes.
Illisi's great for handling hordes of enemies in-case you get surrounded.
Dueling's good for deleting specials and crushers
split lance
Are you going in melee with the dueling sword, or pulling it out when something ...
only when big guys get close
not much with just fodder
try to use assail and trauma
stark notch
Ah, alright, neat
Just keep at it and get an idea for the dodge timing, cause dueling sword has great dodges and mobility in general
If you slap precog or riposte on it, it'll shred 😩👌
split lance
i think i definitely need better staffs tho
split lance
Nah, both are great, but serve different purposes.
Illisi's great for handling...
im not very good at horde clearing currently with my current staffs
dont have a purg yet tho
split lance
Rampage dueling sword gang rise up
rise up
ornate hamlet
zased
split lance
wut
upper sun
zased
ornate hamlet
based but spelled differently for no reason whatsoever
restive ice
zased
split lance
is left even better than right at all
cosmic sigil
Tier 4 specifically btw, fuck tier 3
there's a bp i am missing?
cosmic sigil
the base stats are ye
honestly right is fine
hollow current
once he gets a higher uncanny it'll be pretty good
lyric burrow
uncanny 3 is enough even tbhj
cosmic sigil
Just keep at it and get an idea for the dodge timing, cause dueling sword has gr...
honestly, i use knives without a problem but i don't know what the problem is with the ds, i feel unsafe with it... so i use deimos most of the time
lyric burrow
knife has attack speed and a really good PA
DS sorta has that
the lights work into density somewhat
obv mobility as well goes to knife
stark notch
im not very good at horde clearing currently with my current staffs
Trauma's good at locking down an area, but for AoE horde clear, you may need to build it differently or find a purge, ye
potent echo
Confined spaces is trauma's best friend
You want to shove yourself in some sort of corner or wall or similar
short plaza
Don't you always want this when doable against hordes anyway?
stark notch
honestly, i use knives without a problem but i don't know what the problem is wi...
Probably the acceleration. You reach max speed on knife with one heavy attack. With dueling sword, you gotta run up a bit.
Also knife, for some reason, has an extra stamina bar. So maybe that helps too
potent echo
Don't you always want this when doable against hordes anyway?
Not really, you get destroyed by elite waves, but trauma doesn't care
stark notch
Don't you always want this when doable against hordes anyway?
Ideally, yeah, but trauma struggles a lot more compared to other staves if you're left out in the open. Especially in situations where enemies have higher elevation than you
lyric burrow
Trauma is safer in a corner cause you can still quickly and easily deal with trappers and whatnot
Whereas as in melee you can get stuck
short plaza
Ideally, yeah, but trauma struggles a lot more compared to other staves if you'r...
Ah yeah I don't use this staff but I assume aiming the charged attack on high ground targets must be uneasy
stark notch
Ah yeah I don't use this staff but I assume aiming the charged attack on high gr...
That, and stairs
short plaza
Dreadful stairs
stark notch
Ugh, I hate em
Why doesn't atoma infrastructure have more accessibility measures for the differently abled 😭
split lance
The horde melting will be real
im just gonna use illisis
short plaza
Now I imagine the psyker urging his squad to evacuate because they're downstairs with an horrified look on the face
lyric burrow
Traumas very good but ye it just fails to work on stairs lol
short plaza
im just gonna use illisis
I find illisi for hordes + swap surge and zap elites a very funny build for now (I've been doing some damnation but no auric yet)
I need more plasteel and blessings to learn in order to get a better gear before I find comfortable stepping up
potent echo
Surge is very agile to use, pre fun
short plaza
Indeed but then shriek, discharge, zap again
lyric burrow
But ive also just used it a lot
potent echo
There's not alot of complexity
tight plank
Duelling sword master race
lyric burrow
Yeah i just point my mouse in the general direction
short plaza
Duelling sword master race
This attitude does fit the weapon 😂
tight plank
Filthy peasants, you might get blood on your hands
lyric burrow
I have used my fair share of DS
short plaza
If the knife is close to dagger in vermintide I don't want to be close of using it unless I'm in a squad of people I know because I will FOR SURE be in trouble at some point
potent echo
Knife just feels alot better on vet
short plaza
Which staff do you use with the knife?
lyric burrow
I didnt play VT2 but yeah id say knife is a bit harder/more dangerous to use than duelling sword
potent echo
Also because vet doesn't have ds4
tight plank
Fancy wizards have swords
short plaza
Yes when they're cool enough
lyric burrow
I played a lot of staff psyker i just got tired of it
potent echo
Gun wizard tho
tight plank
Exactly
potent echo
Gandalf unleashing his nine
lyric burrow
I played probably 300 levels of staff psyker
Maybe a little less but somewhere in there
I just prefer DD/scriers with gun + knife these days
Or other various melee weapons
short plaza
When I see scoreboard with 0 blocked attack I feel like my gameplay is wrong
split lance
When I see scoreboard with 0 blocked attack I feel like my gameplay is wrong
you see i died oonce so maybe mines wrong
i only block when im trying to push them
short plaza
You kinda just do it by happen stance or when reviving
I also have a huge appeal to show-blocking with deflector as if I was a jedi
short plaza
Yeaaah. In melee I do dance around often but I like feeling safe at range and casually walking behind my personal shield
lyric burrow
I simply have assail so ranged enemies kinda just evaporate
potent echo
Speaking of personal shields
If you are reviving an ogryn, you can use his thicc bod to block gunfire
short plaza
I'm à huge fan of the flamethrower staff in vermintide but not this much in darktide. I feel like the radius isn't big enough to allow you aiming over the ennemies (in order not to blind allies or perhaps it was just my low values early staves)
lyric burrow
If you are reviving an ogryn, you can use his thicc bod to block gunfire<:KEKW_o...
Yep
potent echo
Purgatus has suppression
lyric burrow
Its v strong
potent echo
You shit on shooters
upbeat wedge
Is T4 Slaughterer or T3 Executor better?
potent echo
You just need to get close
potent echo
And that's the movement puzzle 
split lance
i dont think this sword is worth getting to gold. thoughts?
upper sun
slaughter is better on clear weapons
lyric burrow
Deimos probably exe but both work
upbeat wedge
It's Deimos
upper sun
i dont think this sword is worth getting to gold. thoughts?
prolly not its a good base tho
lyric burrow
i dont think this sword is worth getting to gold. thoughts?
Nah
upper sun
low change youll get slaughter as a second blessing
short plaza
80% damages and finess is reaaaally cool on illisi I'd say, just behead continuously the horde and it's the job of this weapon right?
upbeat wedge
I'm happy with Slaughterer
Since it's T4, it gives me 12.5% more power, but, only if I get kills
Exe will only give me until I miss, but since I also horde clear with that sword sometimes if they get close, it works
If Slaught doesn't work out
I can just change it to exe
no prob
upbeat wedge
My deimos is uncanny/ slaught rn
split lance
80% damages and finess is reaaaally cool on illisi I'd say, just behead continuo...
this is my current
short plaza
Executor is really easy to trigger on illisi with the moveset the sword has so it's not an issue I guess
short plaza
this is my current
I've one close of this and I'd take the other you've showed every day! 😂
Mine has more finesse and less warp resistance I think but overall it's similar
And since with illisi you just repeatedly strike heads around until the horde has vanished...
potent echo
Executor works for bosses so thats a plus
split lance
I've one close of this and I'd take the other you've showed every day! 😂
hmmm i guess ill upgrade it, see waht i get
short plaza
Executor works for bosses so thats a plus
Right but won't you prefer use your staff against them most of the time?
(but I play surge soooo...)
(which can also trigger brain burst 😂 also the force sword attack can as well trigger it if you take the talent for warp attacks right?)
sacred crane
were getting there siblings
potent echo
Right but won't you prefer use your staff against them most of the time?
No way
Psyker boss damage is either melee or BB
Or gun
short plaza
Really? I kept zapping every time (not like I'm too shy meleeing a boss, just I thought it would deal more)
patent wing
or purgatus
sacred crane
Psyker boss damage is either melee or BB
staff boss damage 
patent wing
with fs
potent echo
Purgatus combined with uncanny melee is crazy
But yea you still need melee to finish the equation
potent echo
Staff boss damage really doesn't
sacred crane
Purgatus combined with uncanny melee is crazy
the only reason you melee with purg is to kill a crusher
lyric burrow
I never had to use executor
mankar vouches for it on deimos
and i do trust mankar
i use precog though
for shits and giggles
short plaza
So next time I see an ogryn uglier than the others I take my illisi and then? Charge hit and repeat?
potent echo
It's slightly better but slightly less consistent
Illisi charge hit head
But also you would need to know how to dodge dance a boss
short plaza
Hitting the head of the cursed ogryn is no easy task though 😢
I was... Sorry for the arrogance but I was AWESOME at dancing around bosses in vermintide I'm sure I can learn doing it in darktide. The ogryn has a mix of rat ogre-minotaur vibe in its moveset I feel
But it's all practice (and fast weapon)
potent echo
Oh then just do that in DT
With a surge staff I guess you would still shock the boss if the aggro isn't on you and you can't touch the head easily
But void and trauma don't boss damage
spice veldt
plague ogryn gets lag compensated extremely hard in the player's favor so it's just easy to dodge his attacks unless you're hugging him
short plaza
Oh I play surge or purgatus when I want more shiny effects on my screen
Never trauma so far and not much void
short plaza
plague ogryn gets lag compensated extremely hard in the player's favor so it's j...
Yeah for me he's the easiest one at the moment (but I've yet to learn)
The monstrosity is just annoying because of the yellow acid it puts everywhere (or if a horde around blocks you and you end up eaten)
lyric burrow
plague ogryn gets lag compensated extremely hard in the player's favor so it's j...
its fun on knife though 🙂
spice veldt
yeah the bonbon is quite annoying to deal with if there's any amount of enemies around
spice veldt
if he's alone then you can just dodge his spit and stab him, but god that can be just shut down by the presence of a single other enemy and especially if that enemy happens to be inside the bonbon
potent echo
Best time to kill bonbon is when it's swallowing your friend
It's a long ass animation and it doesn't spit anymore
Get to his ass and melee the pimple
Or gun
lyric burrow
bon bon also blows in a hallway
short plaza
When I was playing zealot the tygrus special attack in its back was hurting sooo much
potent echo
if he's alone then you can just dodge his spit and stab him, but god that can be...
Bulwark inside bonbon, darktide final boss
spice veldt
magistrati sewer tunnel hnghnghnghg
lyric burrow
also i got killed by a burster while in the bon bon yesterday and i was sad
lyric burrow
magistrati sewer tunnel hnghnghnghg
everytime
short plaza
Is bonbon (which means candy in French BTW) a nickname or it's the actual name of the monster?
spice veldt
devious fatshark putting boss triggers RIGHT AFTER DROPDOWNS
lyric burrow
i also keep getting back to back boss spawns recently
short plaza
Ooh
potent echo
Bonbon
spice veldt
is an endearing nickname for it
short plaza
OK I get it 😂
spice veldt
eat at your own caution
short plaza
If this includes a gun don't turn to the dark side 
lyric burrow
arco prefers to play trauma and then complain about how broken trauma ius
potent echo
While giggling I assume
lyric burrow
i dont think ive ever heard arco giggle
short plaza
When we like a weapon of some sort we don't want it to become too strong, by fear they nerf it hard after 😂
spice veldt
If this includes a gun don't turn to the dark side <:staregryn:10220850838443253...
yoshi has run autopistol knife
lyric burrow
yeah one of the main reasons i use knife know is i used to use deimos but its just
god damn
sacred crane
wish us psykers would get more weapons, so far every class besides psyker has gotten new play things
lyric burrow
i will 2 shot the crusher and dumpster it to the floor
sacred crane
lyric burrow
this should not be allowed
spice veldt
wish us psykers would get more weapons, so far every class besides psyker has go...
one day
i hope you and your grandchildren can enjoy the new psyker weapon together when it drops
lyric burrow
yoshi has run autopistol knife
you already know what im going to say
flat shadow
does anyone have a build with a surge force staff that 1-3 shots crushers?
mine at high peril can kill one in 4 or 5
short plaza
5 is definitely too many, what's the difficulty threshold?
lyric burrow
i think 3 shot is the absolute lowest surge goes and thats if you crit 3 times in a row iirc
flat shadow
5 is definitely too many, what's the difficulty threshold?
damnation
lyric burrow
surge is weird to test though because it does random damage
short plaza
I'm sure I do 3 consistently (now perhaps the brain burst triggers), in damnation (regular not auric)
lyric burrow
auric doesnt add health
flat shadow
when im in the psykhanium it seems to take 4-5 every time
lyric burrow
mainly you would just take anything crit related in the tree and + cara
but thats really it
i think 4 casts isnt uncommon
short plaza
If you can't fully charge in the heat of the action myeah but fully charged?
upper sun
critical damage is calculated wrong in game
potent echo
If you crit then you need less
upper sun
change it to flak
flat shadow
but im aiming it at crushers for testing
rigid sky
Crit damage is shit
spice veldt
on a perfectly statted surge staff and if the damage table is to be believed, you'll need a ~55% damage boost on average and crits each time for a crusher threeshot
rigid sky
As a perk
flat shadow
also, are you guys having an issue where the game boots up only using half cpu
it is literally cutting my fps in half
rigid sky
It can be good in talents but do be aware that it's at best half as good as it looks like
short plaza
My game isn't super smooth especially the start of the first run but it's ok I guess
rigid sky
(And on certain weapons much worse than that)
lyric burrow
but it does use all my GPU
flat shadow
normally my pc goes 100% on cpu
which sounds bad but when im getting 144 fps most of the game it feels fine
right now im getting choppy 30 fps walking around the mourningstar
lyric burrow
all i can say is to check your worker threads
flat shadow
it says 13
lyric burrow
but ive never had DT take up 100% of my CPU so i cant help much sadly
short plaza
on a perfectly statted surge staff and if the damage table is to be believed, yo...
Hmm OK. Either I'm wrong or it's because they're taking hits from allies/brain burst/shriek burn. I'll pay attention next gaming session
lyric burrow
is it using your GPU properly
cause 30 FPS would be low even if GPU is doing the heavy lifting
unless its like a 570
supple dock
on a perfectly statted surge staff and if the damage table is to be believed, yo...
I have a surge that's about as perfect as you can get, still takes me 4-5~ hits on average to kill a crusher, and that's with carapace
supple dock
^
potent echo
Darktide is so stupidly cpu taxing
My CPU temps always max out when playing darktide
On low settings
lyric burrow
yeah it does crank my temps
potent echo
I play ghost of Tsushima on max settings and I'm comfy
lyric burrow
despite only using 30-40% according to msi afterburner
potent echo
30-40% of your entire cpu
lyric burrow
yeah
potent echo
Games can't use 16 threads equally
So usually there's a bottleneck somewhere
Where everything is held back by 1 thread
flat shadow
i just replaced my cpu
darktide runs really well now
this was a problem before though
lyric burrow
i have 24 threads 12 cores i can look closer into it although the game runs fine
flat shadow
this only happens sometimes
lyric burrow
GPU is utilized properly
potent echo
My GPU is hovering like 80%
flat shadow
its like when i boot up my pc sometimes darktide just configures wrong
lyric burrow
GPU ranges but yeah its 80-100%
at mostly max settings
and id say i average 90ish FPS
at 1440p
potent echo
Darktide is so unoptimized
potent echo
Give us FSR3 framegen
lyric burrow
i am cranking settings tbf
potent echo
That's crazy
lyric burrow
i might be running it natively though
potent echo
A current gen card should do like 240hz
potent echo
Darktide is special
lyric burrow
7900xt
5900x CPU
32 gigs @3600
dense valley
Give us FSR3 framegen
u tried that mod ?
dense valley
Im actually using that framegen mod
dense valley
ye lemme get the link
potent echo
Darktide and fsr3
I tried it in ghost of Tsushima and that's amazing, but that's because the PC port is insane
They seperated the UI rendering so it doesn't smear
lyric burrow
yeah FSR3 works very well
dense valley
Darktide and fsr3
lyric burrow
i also love to see it has HDR
potent echo
https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/738/?tab=description&topic_id=13565723
I assume this has bad smearing for UI elements?
Might be unusable for me because my custom UI is not sane
dense valley
but u must disabled nvidia reflex in the config file
potent echo
I see
dense valley
no they fixed it
potent echo
Oh cool
lyric burrow
oh my god i had my frame rate uncapped
potent echo
Time to check it out tonight
lyric burrow
probably didnt help
dense valley
funny I actually got more fps when there was that UI smearing probem lol
flat shadow
its because raytracing turned on again
lyric burrow
oh yeah
flat shadow
i should have checked that first
lyric burrow
thatll obliterate frames
flat shadow
but sometimes its not
potent echo
Yea config file
potent echo
You need to change the ini in appdata/roaming/fatshark etc
dense valley
ye prolly raytracing will be playable until RTX 70 series or Darktide 2 lol
lyric burrow
yeah
if it destroys even ER
granted
thats a mid PC port
but its not all that hard to run
upper sun
they gotta release DT2 so we can get VT2 levels of content over here
dense valley
man they did this game dirty
lyric burrow
it at least runs now
potent echo
Fromsoft is an artist studio
upper sun
just 4 more years
potent echo
They don't know what is optimisation
upper sun
were gonna get so much content
dense valley
i think they dont implement lobby browser cuz itd be sad seeing no lobbies
potent echo
They are still using the same engine as demon souls 20 years ago
lyric burrow
They don't know what is optimisation <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
iwas 30 minutes into a godskin duo fight 3 seperate times and my game crashed
like 30 minutes into the same fight
potent echo
30min?
lyric burrow
i thought my PC was just wack but no
dense valley
literally no one playin auric maelstrom now singapore server
potent echo
Cursed bossfight
lyric burrow
yeah it was ng+7 +0 weapons starting at level 1
potent echo
literally no one playin auric maelstrom now singapore server
Eh usually can find everytime I press
lyric burrow
first fight to be problematic and man was it a problem
potent echo
Evening probably easier
short plaza
Hmmm it's soon the evening in Singapore right?
dense valley
Eh usually can find everytime I press
Been this whole week I find like 2 games per night the rest just me and 3 bots
lyric burrow
damn
potent echo
yeah it was ng+7 +0 weapons starting at level 1
Why would you do this to yourself 
potent echo
Been this whole week I find like 2 games per night the rest just me and 3 bots
Tbf I mainly press auric QP
lyric burrow
i enjoy challenge
radiant frigate
iwas 30 minutes into a godskin duo fight 3 seperate times and my game crashed
godskin duo is clearly not intended to be taken on by a single person
lyric burrow
godskin duo is just an unfortuante part of the run
radiant frigate
i summoned mimic tear on that
lyric burrow
radahn fist only is still the longest fight ive done up to this point though
2 hours or so
dense valley
Tbf I mainly press auric QP
even auric quickplay I always get empty team, join game with 3 bots
potent echo
Seems unlikely, check your server?
lyric burrow
i summoned mimic tear on that
ive never summoned but i truly cant blame someone for summoning against godskin duo
that boss wasnt designed by real people
potent echo
Asia central usually has quite alot of players
Even if you join empty game should fill up by the time you start playing
dense valley
Even if you join empty game should fill up by the time you start playing
I kept telling myself that these last games lol
I mean VT2 keep was fine why scrape it
u can even hit the dummy while waiting
potent echo
Oh yea lmao
Mourningstar don't even have jump quest
Where the card game from the trailer
lyric burrow
mourningstar could use some help
its very basic
i mean im not really playing this game to hang out in MS but
still
potent echo
Fatshark says they have hundreds of employees working on darktide
But working on what
dense valley
Darktide 2 lol
lyric burrow
oh right
potent echo
Forgor
spice veldt
septicemia?
i only know because they were the ones to start up the class thread builds
kill yoshi
dense valley
I mean theyre CM they dont really make new game content or anythin they just hype whats already there r9
potent echo
That might be the other other CM
spice veldt
damn
dense valley
and theres nothing to hype up these days lol
lyric burrow
tbf a lot of people are excited for crafting update
dense valley
oh wait they dropping 1 (one) emoji per week
radiant frigate
ive never summoned but i truly cant blame someone for summoning against godskin ...
there was also the duo crucible knights
lyric burrow
i dont think itll make us maintain a ton more players or anything but it is a niche game
radiant frigate
same deal
vestal fulcrum
I mean, there are things to hype up, they just don’t really commit to it
lyric burrow
all the duo bosses are just ass
spice veldt
i'm not particularly optimistic given how soon the crafting update seems to be dropping
lyric burrow
cause its 2 dudes in a room attacking at the same time
spice veldt
but anything will be an improvement so oh well
vestal fulcrum
Or can’t / don’t have the resources to do that
radiant frigate
duo bosses that were really just two bosses both designed to be dueled and perfectly cover each other's openings 💀
radiant frigate
ornstein & smough 
lyric burrow
i'm not particularly optimistic given how soon the crafting update seems to be d...
tbf im not sure how much we are gonna get affected anyway
dense valley
I think fatshark had the vision for the game as something u stop by when ur tired of other games not as something u play like everyday like csgo or st
potent echo
Classic
radiant frigate
ds1 gargoyles
dense valley
almost like an early access game u play once in a while checking on the update
potent echo
Do we have more thicc smough fans or tall ornstein
vestal fulcrum
The itemisation rework by itself won’t change much for people with good or good enough gear
radiant frigate
ds2 ganksquad, even
vestal fulcrum
They won’t try new builds. All the builds since P13 have been basically debunked
potent echo
almost like an early access game u play once in a while checking on the update
I still play at least 1 game daily, hd2 for me I completely stopped
lyric burrow
if it came with a blessing rework that would be something for even the people with nothing to craft
although new weapons
radiant frigate
Do we have more thicc smough fans or tall ornstein
curveball
vestal fulcrum
Well, yeah, new weapons will be nice, I suppose
spice veldt
i also not too optimistic because the crafting update is also a good opportunity to throw in some balance changes and not piss off a certain crowd of people
so balance change + crafting update is my ideal and that would take some more time
radiant frigate
anyway, back to our regular schedule
dense valley
I still play at least 1 game daily, hd2 for me I completely stopped
almost forgot bout HD2 lol
potent echo
Now
radiant frigate
dense valley
I still play at least 1 game daily, hd2 for me I completely stopped
almost like that game died after that review bombing thing
lyric burrow
aint no way moonlight GS would be balanced
HD2 is prob still p active but its just apparent with the contrast of everyone on the planet was playing it 24/7 for a while
short plaza
force greatsword when?
Yesssss
I'm fond of big swords and a force one would be very very cool 🥰
upper sun
i also not too optimistic because the crafting update is also a good opportunity...
see if they dont wanna piss people off that would require the new crafting system to be completely free as in they let people change out the blessings they nerf
lyric burrow
yeah they couldnt do it before a crafting update
potent echo
almost like that game died after that review bombing thing
Has more players than DT
lyric burrow
people will be mad regardless
upper sun
but there is no way in hell given the track record they're gonna make a system that lets people do whatever they want
lyric burrow
but they would be really mad if they had to recraft with current crafting
dense valley
HD2 is prob still p active but its just apparent with the contrast of everyone o...
I actually never checked on that thing tps not really my thing but my friends talked bout tit like its the next csgo or st lol
lyric burrow
yeah it was STUPIDLY popular for a bit
people are still playing just not like 100k people
dense valley
prolly cuz sony ad budget
upper sun
but they would be really mad if they had to recraft with current crafting
i will do a full game of recon psyker if the new crafting system is completely free of rng and locks
spice veldt
it's not too difficult as long as you just attach a progression system to it
lyric burrow
....ive played recon psyker
spice veldt
the rng stuff just seems to be because that's what they did before and they didn't particularly have time to make something better
lyric burrow
yeah they really had to throw together what we have
we didnt even have what we have
at one poiunt
we just got stuck with it
spice veldt
since the game did release very unfinished and we are still in the "fixing the game from release" stage of the game
upper sun
it's not too difficult as long as you just attach a progression system to it
they released a progression system in the penances hopefully they move that idea away from crafting and more onto cosmetics
BUT like i said i dont think the crafting is gonna make everyone happy
spice veldt
we can have both
independent progression systems for achievements and crafting/gameplay systems is not a new thing at all
dense valley
At this point we gave up on the weapon mod promise before launch r9 lol
spice veldt
nothing's going to make everyone happy anyways
lyric burrow
BUT like i said i dont think the crafting is gonna make everyone happy
nothing will EVER make FS community happy
not all of them
esp if they dare make some balance changes with this update
vestal fulcrum
They could just also remove Plasma from the game, I wouldn’t mind that
short plaza
Steam discussions forum with vermintide balance changes cough
vestal fulcrum
upper sun
the only cancer i play is ironhelm and i doubt theyll do much to it
dense valley
nothing will EVER make FS community happy
I wonder if it had anything to do with everytime FS did something its wrong lol
lyric burrow
that is just
false
FS generally takes steps in the right direction but just very slowly which tends to make people lose interest
you cannot tell me p13 was not good for the game
spice veldt
psword nerf review bomb era
this was the nerf that reduced pcycler psword from 7 charges to 3 charges btw
potent echo
People who post on the forums are either toxic negative or toxic positive
lyric burrow
yeah or stuff like that
dense valley
aight p13 was good if not the best but I feel like that shouldve been at launch
fading patrol
this was the nerf that reduced pcycler psword from 7 charges to 3 charges btw
Practically infinite via abuse
spice veldt
OwO
lyric burrow
you can argue that although its generally accepted the game released a year or more early
spice veldt
the funny thing is the illisi inheriting that bug
potent echo
this was the nerf that reduced pcycler psword from 7 charges to 3 charges btw
Wasn't it 5 to 3
spice veldt
since the illisi is just a copy of prepatch psword
upper sun
this was the nerf that reduced pcycler psword from 7 charges to 3 charges btw
tbh i get them id be mad too if i spent 50k plasteel to get one blessing just for it to be nerfed into the ground
lyric burrow
way back it was 7
fading patrol
Dont make me pull a 2 years old clip swinging charged powersword 29 times
lyric burrow
a bug made it 5 iirc
spice veldt
tbh i get them id be mad too if i spent 50k plasteel to get one blessing just fo...
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "INTO THE GROUND"
lyric burrow
tbh i get them id be mad too if i spent 50k plasteel to get one blessing just fo...
into the ground is WILD
short plaza
this was the nerf that reduced pcycler psword from 7 charges to 3 charges btw
Wait we can charge the sword several times and it retains the charges, consuming one by one? Or you mean before peril stacks?
lyric burrow
it went from OP to OP
upper sun
fine
dense valley
the pearl clutching incident was a literal spit in the face Im still salty asf
potent echo
aight p13 was good if not the best but I feel like that shouldve been at launch
Definitely was supposed to be at launch but they released it 1 year early because of any reason
spice veldt
it went from one of the best blessings in the game to one of the best blessings in the game
upper sun
from 7 to 3 is still a massive nerf even if its still op
potent echo
Can blame shareholders, executives, customers, developers
spice veldt
yes and that's the point
spice veldt
obviously it's going to be a massive nerf if the values were already above the sky
upper sun
if someone spends a ton of time working for something and its not as good as before theyll feel bad
upper sun
refund plasteel and make it 2 swings
spice veldt
yes but people should also acknowledge it still continued to be one of the best blessings in the game
lyric burrow
they can feel bad all they want the nerf was needed
lyric burrow
Rework it entirely
i barely consider PC a rework it just locked old Psword behind RNG lol
potent echo
And a small combo rework that no one asked for
upper sun
thats not what im saying
im saying that people would feel shitty if their hard work is devalued
potent echo
No I mean rework it entirely again now
vestal fulcrum
if someone spends a ton of time working for something and its not as good as bef...
But one could say that about any other blessing in the game, like, why would FS do anything to compensate for that change?
potent echo
lyric burrow
sure but FS cant just never nerf anything because itll make people feel bad
i dont disagree that people will feel bad
potent echo
They need to hire arrowhead devs
vestal fulcrum
Slaughterer was nerfed also in P13 - I don’t remember people being particularly audible about that
potent echo
Just go next door and call alexis
spice veldt
yeah but people should also have the expectation that it's obviously going to be nerfed
lyric burrow
but you cant cater to everyone
lyric burrow
and at some point you have to step in
potent echo
Shocking
radiant frigate
It’s just Vet attracts very whiny players
does it
potent echo
They all left though
vestal fulcrum
it was obviously OP
Oh uhhh but Malice players just wanted to have fun, right?
rigid sky
The power cycler nerf ironically made power cycler even more essential too
marble crater
Power Cycler was 7 charges?
spice veldt
Power Cycler was 7 charges?
ye
marble crater
lyric burrow
vet players review bombed over not being able to face roll the keyboard with psword and instead face roll the keyboard with psword
spice veldt
psword had 3 charges by default and pcycler turned it into 7
potent echo
Vanilla was 3 charges
rigid sky
Because without PC, old power sword was already good
lyric burrow
they bitch about exe sucking and surv nerf
short plaza
Now it's only 1 charge right?
rigid sky
Without it now it's a shit Illisi
radiant frigate
old power sword was good as a grey
lyric burrow
people actually got mad they changed pre patch 13 vet
short plaza
I mean when you charge you sword you have one improved hit only?
potent echo
They whined so much that vet tree got reworked multiple times
lyric burrow
depsite being so mind numbingly busted it might as well have turned the AI off
potent echo
And is now the best tree
spice veldt
keep in mind that in prepatch 13, the psword was one of the few good weapons regardless
marble crater
I'm usually not a fan of nerfs and instead other things should be made viable as well, but 7 charges was clearly OP PS still is now
vestal fulcrum
does it
Considering that they are mad about any insignificant change to their class, I’d say so, yeah
rigid sky
Idk if PS is op now tbh
lyric burrow
I'm usually not a fan of nerfs and instead other things should be made viable as...
infinite cleave at one point too
spice veldt
because many other weapons were absolutely poopoo and psword had good stats + good blessings
rigid sky
It's very strong
lyric burrow
or near infinit e
short plaza
7 improved strikes indeed sounds completely broken
potent echo
PS is definitely still OP
rigid sky
But the recharge and bad mobility
spice veldt
Idk if PS is op now tbh
it's one of the better generalist melees
short plaza
The charged force attacks are really something
rigid sky
It's just very strong now imo
spice veldt
the bad mobility is counteracted by the fact that you stagger all human enemies
lyric burrow
id argue its probably the best generalist
rigid sky
I get better clear speed from my chainsword 4
short plaza
PS is definitely still OP
Nooo don't touch my illisi
spice veldt
and ogryn enemies have extremely short dodge catch
rigid sky
Just bad Carapace killtimes
lyric burrow
hsword comes close but lacks cara/boss damage
rigid sky
That's all
potent echo
Illisi isn't even that good lol
spice veldt
I get better clear speed from my chainsword 4
sure i don't deny that chord is one of the best horde clear weapons
potent echo
Unless they give illisi the omegastab
short plaza
Ah good. Fine. Let it this way 😂
spice veldt
but psword outputs absurd generalist damage
spice veldt
and psword has better stagger
lethal lagoon
Illisi FEELs really good, but it's just a decent sword.
rigid sky
I don't see anybody else really using the chainsword 4 though
lyric burrow
illisi is mostly good cause it has uncanny and the special
potent echo
Perfectly balanced like Deimos 
radiant frigate
illisi also is really good
potent echo
Totally no bias
lyric burrow
Perfectly balanced like Deimos <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
ok lets take a step back
radiant frigate
uncanny slaughterer = blender time
spice veldt
cuz chainsword's stats are not obvious unless you're testing it or looking at the damage calc table
rigid sky
Also most people don't like heavies for horde clear
lyric burrow
no crit fall off on 8 billion cleave weapon 🙂
rigid sky
I suspect
short plaza
I love the way the illisi just makes me feel 100% safe from a horde and I pick another tool to deal with threats, which is the point I feel is for my melee weapon as a psyker
spice veldt
e.g., no finesse falloff and good cleave damage
potent echo
They did nerf chainsword lights to be alot worse at horde clear
spice veldt
Also most people don't like heavies for horde clear
hnnhnhnhghnhgnhgnhnhgn
potent echo
Strikedown only cleaves 1
radiant frigate
i never really liked chainsword
lyric burrow
Also most people don't like heavies for horde clear
people are so lazy it hurts
rigid sky
They did nerf chainsword lights to be alot worse at horde clear
You don't use them though apart from the l3 maybe l2
spice veldt
the patch notes were unclear, but only the strikedown specifically had its cleave touched
lyric burrow
you do light light light heavy
lethal lagoon
Killing mutants with chainsword is really fun though
rigid sky
you do light light light heavy
What
potent echo
Yea but you are punished for m1 spam now
lyric burrow
on the 4
rigid sky
The chainsword 4?
lyric burrow
yes
short plaza
Killing mutants with chainsword is really fun though
Dodge + special strikes makes you feeling like a toréador
spice veldt
nah mk4 is heavy heavy light heavy
lethal lagoon
Nah, its more "Omae wa mou Shinderu" when the mutant dies from your special but keeps running
short plaza
yes you're going insane
It's the fate of gunkers I'm afraid
lyric burrow
HHLH
rigid sky
Nah, its more "Omae wa mou Shinderu" when the mutant dies from your special but ...
Fucking hilarious
lyric burrow
we have to put you down now
you wouldnt even if given the opportunity
rigid sky
I use chainsword for the horde clear, but I love chainsword for the mutant murders
vestal fulcrum
Nah, its more "Omae wa mou Shinderu" when the mutant dies from your special but ...
What if I instead do a push attack on it, into L4 L1. No revs, just regular ass swings 
rigid sky
What if I instead do a push attack on it, into L4 L1. No revs, just regular ass ...
Why would you take a chainsword and not rev it
short plaza
https://streamable.com/fevspp
That literally has happened to me except he went out of a door right on my side I had barely left behind me, like 1 step away
rigid sky
Sounds heretical
vestal fulcrum
Why would you take a chainsword and not rev it
Animation lock, can’t move, etc.
Very UNFLUID
lyric burrow
tbf you only really need to rev ogryns
vestal fulcrum
Push attack into WS, into L4L1 is much more fluid
spice veldt
i take chainsword for degenerate crit zealot builds
lyric burrow
and maybe a mutie
spice veldt
tfw crit actually meaningfully benefits hordeclear
lyric burrow
too bad it makes it fucking deranged
rigid sky
I only use mine on my vet
short plaza
Speaking of saws, the tygrus one has a push attack being a thrust, is it good at killing threats or it sucks compared to the heavy one (overhead)?
lyric burrow
flamer level horde clear
marble crater
Animation lock, can’t move, etc.
Good points, however: It makes a cool sound, when you rev it
radiant frigate
personally, everyone that has access to a chainsword also has access to another weapon i would rather use
vestal fulcrum
Speaking of saws, the tygrus one has a push attack being a thrust, is it good at...
It’s slow, and kind of bad. It has OK Weakspot multipliers, but I much prefer queuing a heavy attack after push instead
radiant frigate
power sword, eviscerator, force sword
short plaza
I tried it only a few times on my zealot and it felt underpowered every time compared to the heavy yeahh. But I wanted to make sure
marble crater
I use the push attack thrust to kill hounds after blocking them
radiant frigate
Yes
vestal fulcrum
But you could have instead sawed the dog in half mid air
radiant frigate
it's okay but overhead more bonk
vestal fulcrum
vestal fulcrum
Well, no
But you will not receive the initial instance of corruption damage if you block their pounce
marble crater
But you could have instead sawed the dog in half mid air
Sometimes I do on accident, I'm not good enough to do it on purpose 
short plaza
Ah OK so you're pinned down but with no corruption damages
short plaza
Sometimes I do on accident, I'm not good enough to do it on purpose <:Sitgryn:10...
Nevermind always pretend it was on purpose
vestal fulcrum
Pushing is still the way to go
short plaza
Even add a "that's how you do it" in chat
lyric burrow
be a little careful going for a rev attack on a dog mid air cause it can get jank
spice veldt
ah damnit that stupid bug
lyric burrow
generally its safest to swing at a hound mid air if you will one shot it 100%
vestal fulcrum
lyric burrow
it one swing
marble crater
This isn't DMG
spice veldt
mfing attacks that don't cleave much getting falsely stopped
lyric burrow
what are you testing
spice veldt
i remember it so much back from when i used the obscurus
oh are you referring to something else
lyric burrow
i was talking about hitting a dog mid air with a rev attack
so the stagger comes in late sometimes
spice veldt
ohhhhhhh
spice veldt
i thought you were talking about your special getting eaten because the game thinks you hit the enemy when you didn't
spice veldt
so your swing gets prematurely stopped and you lose the special activation
lyric burrow
nah not that
radiant frigate
this one time a trapper netted me while i was in the process of chainswording her
lyric burrow
just weird stagger interactions mid air
radiant frigate
suffice to say i was fairly miffed
potent echo
i thought you were talking about your special getting eaten because the game thi...
Wow ghost hits count for sound and vfx and hitmass but not damage or stagger
spice veldt
i'm not cool enough to use revs against doggies nowadays
short plaza
Consider she pulled the trigger out of pain 😂
spice veldt
Wow ghost hits count for sound and vfx and hitmass but not damage or stagger <:K...
i wish i could disable headshot noises just to avoid seething
rigid sky
this one time a trapper netted me while i was in the process of chainswording he...
That trapper deserves a promotion on the spot
lyric burrow
why would you remove that satisfaction
spice veldt
the satisfaction is seeing the enemy dead before my teammates can get to it
i dont need the damn misleading headshot noise
lyric burrow
i'm not cool enough to use revs against doggies nowadays
i just push them 99.9% of the time because i am not trying to get memed
short plaza
the satisfaction is seeing the enemy dead before my teammates can get to it
Green circles curse
radiant frigate
That trapper deserves a promotion on the spot
nurgle award for perseverance when faced with unimaginable pain
rigid sky
the satisfaction is seeing the enemy dead before my teammates can get to it
Sad ogryn shovel 5 noises
radiant frigate
very on-brand
short plaza
i just push them 99.9% of the time because i am not trying to get memed
Borrrring
rigid sky
Like swinging the Reaper's scythe through molasses
radiant frigate
why does the ogryn shovel take 5 years to recover from a folded swing
rigid sky
why does the ogryn shovel take 5 years to recover from a folded swing
It's the regular swing time on normal heavies that does me in
lyric burrow
also arco will make fun of me
short plaza
when the team implodes the nano second i am down
Duelling sword master race user spotted!
spice veldt
yoshi is not enough of a degenerate
spice veldt
not even running it on zealot
lyric burrow
((do not look at what happens when you crit))
spice veldt
((do not look at what happens when you crit))
guh
short plaza
((now I'm curious))
spice veldt
knife gets absurd adm (armour damage modifier) increases on crits
abnormally so, compared to other weapons which either get more modest buffs, only against flak, or not at all
lyric burrow
yeah its like
spice veldt
e.g., it does 175% adm to unyielding on crits
lyric burrow
4x damage
short plaza
Knife for elites and eeeeh... Flamethrower for hordes? 
lyric burrow
i would
fuckin
i cant say what i would do
but i would not get this
cause i do not use it on zealot
spice veldt
alas
lyric burrow
arco you are hating on something you have not tried
DD scriers mettle assail psyker
its pog
i swear
i would use it even in a 5 assail shards world
spice veldt
i would never step down from my degenerate ways
rigid sky
DD scriers mettle assail psyker
And GUN.
rigid sky
Best wizard weapon
short plaza
sigh
spice veldt
i do run DD scriers mettle assail as one of my configurations but not with a gun
rigid sky
I couldn't play scrier's with a staff
lyric burrow
but no KNIFE
rigid sky
I blow up enough using it with no force weapons at all
lyric burrow
knife is the SOUL
spice veldt
i only take scrier's for point economy reasons
spice veldt
my other degenerate build takes venting shriek instead
lyric burrow
i generally like access to assail and i kinda murder everything anyway
even without the buffs
rigid sky
I love turbopumping any build's strong points
vestal fulcrum
my other degenerate build takes venting shriek instead
Question. What makes a non-degenerate Psyker build?
lyric burrow
mine :)
spice veldt
Question. What makes a non-degenerate Psyker build? <:sienna_fuegohappy:11338719...
not playing psyker
in fact, don't play darktide
vestal fulcrum
not playing psyker
The only correct answer
But playing Darktide is still fun, occasionally
lyric burrow
yeah if you hop on DT your playing some deranged shit
spice veldt
yoshi projecting onto other people
vestal fulcrum
But I’m getting into the same type of burnout I have with VT2
spice veldt
yeah i'm in that same phase currently
but i usually do pop back in once an update happens even if nothing much changes
vestal fulcrum
Thankfully, DRG season 5 goes live in a week
lyric burrow
yoshi projecting onto other people
you just said i dont play deranged builds
rigid sky
I am taking a semi break just because FF13 has stolen my soul recently
spice veldt
ah ah ah, 'degenerate'
rigid sky
Mostly just playing when my gf wants to play
spice veldt
your builds are still deranged and so are you
short plaza
But I’m getting into the same type of burnout I have with VT2
Test everything, make as many funny load outs as you can and swap between them if not done yet. Otherwise, well, taking a break of a game has nothing wrong!
rigid sky
She's done with ogryn now and is now playing little ogryn
vestal fulcrum
Test everything, make as many funny load outs as you can and swap between them i...
But I already did most of that
rigid sky
Shouty
lyric burrow
your builds are still deranged and so are you
unnecessarily rude
short plaza
i do mainly play with friends though
I prefer being in a group too but I'll keep starting solo until I feel I've learned enough
short plaza
Uuuuf
lyric burrow
i dont mind them still
short plaza
I'm far from this
lyric burrow
but they generally revolve around me hard carrying so i get tired faster
friends its more chill
spice veldt
i do a 50/50 split with soloing and playing premades
lyric burrow
im at 1500 hours now for reference
are you coming back for new weapons/crafting or w/e is next arco
short plaza
I've 145h 😂 (but experience from vermintide helps quite a lot for the darktide basics)
spice veldt
ye
lyric burrow
nice
spice veldt
i've made the terrible decision of playing a gacha game and now my addiction is currently that
spice veldt
so tragic
lyric burrow
also mankar is going to eat you alive if he sees that
spice veldt
don't tell him about it
lyric burrow
hm
i feel as though that would be betraying mankar
or he would just
see it in this chat
he actually wakes up around now
potent echo
Accidentally you say?
short plaza
Accidentally or to answer questions or you know, things
spice veldt
uh huh
short plaza
Which gacha already ? Out of curiosity
spice veldt
i did play genshin a while back but it's snowbreak containment zone atm
short plaza
(I don't play mobile games BUT actually genshin looks nice for the very few I've been showed)
lethal lagoon
I fell into a gacha once. I didn't even realize how much I spent till my card stopped working and my bank called me to confirm the charges. Never played one again lmao, that shit is addicting.
potent echo
Isn't snow break the extra horny one
lethal lagoon
short plaza
I fell into a gacha once. I didn't even realize how much I spent till my card st...
Ouch
spice veldt
maybe?
potent echo
I've seen the designs
spice veldt
they're starting to transition into their horny phase
cuz they weren't making as many profits before
the early designs are fine but the newer ones certainly are out there
potent echo
They need to win genshin in some way
lyric burrow
i do not recognize that name
spice veldt
so tragic
lyric burrow
oh my
short plaza
I'm a natural fashion victim buying cosmetics day 1, I relate
spice veldt
snowbreak is basically the division but gacha
lyric burrow
it seems like division but one handed mode
spice veldt
gacha remnant
lethal lagoon
spice veldt
yuup
potent echo
Moving Mountains
short plaza
Show them I'll rate the horniness from 1 to bonk
lethal lagoon
I'm guessing only the old designs appear on search, cause it looks kinda tame
short plaza
Snow containment that's it?
lyric burrow
your average horny anime girl design
spice veldt
I'm guessing only the old designs appear on search, cause it looks kinda tame
ye
you can absolutely tell when the change in design goals happened
short plaza
I'm not shocked by what Google shows me
Perhaps one picture here or there is a bit excessive but otherwise it's fine
Nevermind
spice veldt
"siris ksana" is the newest char so far and you can tell
short plaza
I didn't look far enough
lethal lagoon
Okay, I see now. You need to start from patch 1.7
short plaza
OK it's not giga bonk level of horniness buuuut... It's suspiciously designed. 😂
spice veldt
very sus
upper sun
imagine having horny gacha dev on your cv
potent echo
"top 100 entertainment software company"
spice veldt
profession: artist
upper sun
tbh could worse could be "marvel dating sim dev"
potent echo
Firaxis?
