psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

You can literally just spam Trauma staff on your feet when you get in trouble and everything just dies.

[agile mural]

That its method of firing has nothing to compare against. It's unique and isolated.

That's it.

That don't mean it's hard, just takes getting used to.

[spice veldt]

it's just a projectile weapon that doesn't land on enemies and only on map geometry, and is helped by the lack of a travel time

surely it is not that novel of a concept

[lethal lagoon]

It reminds of something like dragon age 2 but without a pause button

So kinda unique for a real-time game

But super common in MMOs

Which are like faux acton

Oh yeah, so literally every MMO has this aiming pattern

[spice veldt]

you don't hear anyone calling the rumbler/grenade gauntlet/throwing knives having some unique or novel aiming mechanism, so why does the trauma staff in particular get this rep out of nowhere?

it's just silly

[agile mural]

Stairs mostly.

It's just different enough to warrant a warning

Again u can just be used to it. But at the start for me it took a bit to learn and why I would give the same warning.

[spice veldt]

i just dislike the reputation that it's given the trauma staff

i've heard it since launch and i continue to hear it now

just tell people that it's basically just the rumbler and call it a day

[agile mural]

It's basically the rumbler except not at all

[vestal fulcrum]

Basically Rumbler, but doesn’t shoot funny explosive pills

[spice veldt]

it follows the idea of "shift your crosshair vertically to aim at a target far away"

that enough should be alone to make people draw the connection between projectile weapons with falloff and the aiming mechanism

and is exactly what it is

[agile mural]

It's the fact it isn't a projectile at all is the thing.

[spice veldt]

there is nothing novel about weapons with dropoff with range

YEAH AND THAT'S A GOOD THING

ISN"T IT

[vestal fulcrum]

The similarity is interesting, even if mechanically the weapons are as different as night and day

[spice veldt]

THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR TRAVEL TIME

what, do you want it to actually have travel time or are you high

actually that's not a bad idea

[lethal lagoon]

Does it actually spawn at the "circle"?

[agile mural]

Idk why u so heated over this, I'm just saying theres significant differences to not call it identical to a rumbler

[spice veldt]

because it gives trauma a weird rep

[agile mural]

A rumbler shoots pretty fucking far

[spice veldt]

nothing novel about it

[agile mural]

A trauma does not

[spice veldt]

damn projectile weapons with falloff having different ranges

such a novel concept

[agile mural]

The rumbler basically travels straight for most shooting ranges that the fall off is pretty much trivial

Not the same for trauma

[spice veldt]

yeah and the point is that people can easily extrapolate their experience with projectile weapons with the trauma's aiming mechanism

not that they are exactly 1-to-1

but rather that the muscle memory and basic ideas are the same

that is my point

[agile mural]

But it's a bad comparison.

[spice veldt]

it is a good comparison

[agile mural]

And my point is that u gotta learn the weapon with no real reference to another

It's not the same at all

[spice veldt]

in terms of gameplay, that is the information that new players need to connect the idea of the trauma's aiming mechanism with the known ideas of how projectiles work

i don't care about superficial differences
the muscle memory and aiming mechanism is the same

[agile mural]

A rumbler you can aim down sights and if the cross hair is over them your usually fine, a trauma that's not the case.

[spice veldt]

yeah it doesn't land on enemies and only on map geometry

[agile mural]

This is why that's a terrible comparison

[spice veldt]

and surely players have thrown projectiles at map geometry instead of directly at enemies before

[agile mural]

If they act completely different. Don't compare them

[spice veldt]

it's a good comparison because players can easily extrapolate

completely different?

[agile mural]

You can't hit enemy if aim with cursor is such a fundamental difference from all other weapons u should call it out as such

If you think any other way thats crazy

[spice veldt]

i'm sure people will somehow have a terrible time grasping the concept of projectiles that pass through enemies

[agile mural]

Yes a projectile that passes through enemies, they would think to voidstrike or plasma shot

Not... trauma

[spice veldt]

people can combine different ideas together to form a complete idea of what trauma's aiming mechanism actually is

[agile mural]

Exactly

[spice veldt]

the basic idea of a projectile weapon w/ falloff with an instantaneous travel time that only lands on map geometry

[agile mural]

You gotta combine ideas. So it's different to everything else

[spice veldt]

i've been here long enough to know that people call trauma weird because you have to look up

and people rarely ever mention the fact that it passes through enemies
they do remark on it passing through slits in stairs

but looking up is what people note about it

and in that regard which is so often mentioned

there is NOTHING novel about it

that is why people should just draw comparisons between the trauma staff and projectile weapons w/ falloff

because that is the part which gets people confused

[agile mural]

You are proving the point though, it's so different that you need to study at least, and understand its fundamental differences, and learn a system or aiming method by all accounts are probably not exposed to yet, I am never saying it's complicated learn, but that it uses a different system to fight. Because it does. It's not that complicated once you get the hang of it, but u and I have been using it since launch, and have gotten used to it, but someone new? Utterly? Does not even touch Ogryn so that comparisons are gone? It's an aiming method not used elsewhere. That's all I'm saying. It's a good weapon just has its own thing about it.

[spice veldt]

the idea of projectile weapons with falloff is neither unique to ogryn or this game

[agile mural]

Sure. But calling it a projectile weapon is still odd

[spice veldt]

i'm not calling it a projectile weapon

i'm saying that its aiming mechanism is directly analogous to how you aim a projectile weapon w/ falloff

and that is exactly the part that people complain the most about trauma

maybe you weren't here for the whining about trauma that i've seen since launch

but that is the complaint that i see the most

[untold niche]

i thinkl its just hitscan arc is not common, thats why arco say it like that tp help people uynnderstand

[agile mural]

Exactly!

It's a very different concept of weapon.

But...

I'd like you to enlighten me a bit here, the complaints exactly what do they roughly compass, that it is too hard or something?

Simple? Range too short?

[spice veldt]

the fact that you aim up

i've already stated what the complaint was

[untold niche]

because not common, most people would find it wonky to aim and feel weird because they donrt rrealize its an arc

"why to get circle move further i have to look at sky"

[agile mural]

I guess if you were to compare it does have an extremely heavy arc, that technically does not follow true arc rules.

[untold niche]

uh, ok u righjt, but im just trying to get the "spirit" of what is said across

[agile mural]

I c

Gy

Ty

It is true though. I don't see a reason to warn against that

Even though I love the weapon, it is something I would note because it's something I had to learn to use it effectively

[untold niche]

@spice veldt me me playing gbf relink now. its like baby monjster hunter but with worse camera

[spice veldt]

and that's my point
people can easily learn what the trauma's aiming system is if they just relate it to a projectile weapon w/ falloff

it's nothing novel

the muscle memory for how you aim it is the exact same

in terms of gameplay, this is what new players need to understand it and to not think that it's some whacky weird aiming mechanism

i've heard it since launch, and i continue to hear this bullshit now

[untold niche]

its how to quell slide like me

[spice veldt]

mfs will do anything except to associate new concepts with old concepts that they already know to expediate their learning process

[untold niche]

to be fair thats kind of dangerous in stem
opk i stop interrupting
|bai bai

[agile mural]

I still don't see another example of a non-projectile that does not hurt enemies when it passes them to compare this to as a old concept, If this is the only shooter you experienced.

[spice veldt]

you are thinking far too broadly

[agile mural]

Even this analogy of it seems more confusing then just saying it's unique

[spice veldt]

the main complaint about trauma's aiming mechanism is that people have to look up at the sky

relating it to projectile weapons w/ falloff succintly conveys what it actually is

[agile mural]

And they can't aim at enemies to get results.

They have to follow it's mechanics

That's different to everything else.

[spice veldt]

no?
its concepts are seen in different weapons, and aiming up is what gets people the momst

throwing a grenade in the air to land it in a position where your crosshair is not pointing at is not a novel idea

it is not unique

people legitimately do not use the trauma staff because of the perceived whackiness of the aiming system, and this is why i dislike the rhetoric against it so much

[agile mural]

It's still an unfair comparison though because almost all arcs are barely noticeable for most engagements, and that all things that do arc are genuine projectiles.

So even if the concept of aim higher for results its the degree of the arc that just changes the rules of the weapon.

[spice veldt]

the "basic rules", in that you aim up in a nonlinear fashion to target an enemy farther away, continue to be the same

[agile mural]

There isn't a negative arc weapon, but the same concept probably would make it feel weird too, where u gotta aim down to shoot farther and would get the same treatment of this weapon is weird, you gotta learn it from scratch

[spice veldt]

and my point is that the muscle memory is the same with projectile weapons w/ falloff except that it doesn't land on enemies

[agile mural]

It's not. There is no comparison of muscle memory

[spice veldt]

there absolutely is

[agile mural]

Unless the arcs of weapons are exactly the same, you don't share muscle memory with them, you gotta learn it from scratch, cuz that's not how muscle memory works.

[spice veldt]

if I change the sensitivity that I play on, my skills will quickly catch up to my old one unless i shift the range of the sensitivity too much

unless you are insinuating that i will lose my ability to aim well if i change my sensitivity

[agile mural]

Hypothetically, we got 2 grenade launchers in some arbitrary game, one shoots the projectile further, and arcs slower then the other. You learn how to use one of them completely to the point that you know if they are 50 feet away, u aim like at 30* and can hit them, u switch to the other grenade launcher and assume they have the same mechanics, but miss even though u got the angle perfect, because it's arc is different.

Which means u gotta learn a different angle, hence different muscle memory.

[spice veldt]

i'm not saying that they're 1-to-1 and that you can trivially switch between them
I'm not speaking precise when i say that they have the same muscle memory

[agile mural]

Is that not a fair comparison on why it's not shared?

[spice veldt]

but the fucking basic idea of "look up to hit enemy not under your crosshair" is the exact same

[agile mural]

Yes. Sure

I get that completely

But this still breaks the rules and nowhere else is it so exaggerated that you gotta learn that rule

[spice veldt]

alright and how does that make it so different that one can not relate these two weapons to expediate the learning process of using the trauma staff?

[agile mural]

Nothing else is that brutal with it.

Grenades you can aim pretty well normal and usually be fine, straight ahead is often Sufficient, same with gauntlet or lugger, but trauma is so much more exaggerated that you actually gotta learn arcs

[spice veldt]

why do we have to circlejerk about how "unique" the aiming mechanism is
it's not novel

just tell people to relate it to projectile weapons w/ falloff

it's not that complicated or deep

[agile mural]

And for most comparisons if used right, it's a bad comparison in this game because those weapons arcs are so light they can be treated as straight.

This weapon isn't.

[spice veldt]

yeah and players can easily extrapolate what it would be like to aim the rumbler if the arc were weaker

the point is that players can easily build on the idea of the rumbler
and if they've played a game with an even weaker projectile arc, that's even better

you are severely underestimating players and are just treating them as babies that can't learn

[agile mural]

But that's a bad and assuming comparison, in isolation to this game, u gotta assume they know nothing, and is why you must tell them about it.

[spice veldt]

surely people can relate two ideas together even if they're not exactly 1-to-1

[agile mural]

They can great!

[spice veldt]

alright, now what's the penalty for assuming people's knowledge?

[agile mural]

But that don't mean they have used those weapons either.

Most people don't even touch ogryn tbf

[spice veldt]

if they've never played a game with a projectile weapon w/ falloff, a lot of things are probablistically going to be novel anyways

[spice veldt]

i've stated already that projectile weapons are not unique to ogryn or this game

are you going to dispute this statement?

[agile mural]

No I get that

[spice veldt]

because it is very easy to bring up an counterexample

and in many games, especially older ones, you don't get an aiming arc

and explosive projectile weapons w/ falloff (e.g., grenades) typically have a fuse that should remind you of how trauma's termination distance works

there's no penalty for making this assumption

and rumbler is just a grenade launcher

if they don't know what a rumbler is, just append an "...or grenade" to your comparison

[agile mural]

It's just gonna be an argument we can't see eye to eye on I see

[spice veldt]

there's no need to enshroud trauma's aiming mechanism in this smoke of mysticism

yeah and i completely disagree with and you strongly dislike you for it

[agile mural]

Thats a bit harsh

[spice veldt]

it is just absolutely silly why you are so adamant against relating old concepts that players have likely encountered before to this supposedly new mechanic

[agile mural]

The mechanics on there own isn't unique I agree with that.

[spice veldt]

it's a matter of pedagogy and it's not a novel idea to do this

[agile mural]

It's still merging them in such a way that makes it unique is my argument.

And ofc, is the only true arc weapon that actually has one to me in this game.

[spice veldt]

and i'm saying that players can trivially combine ideas to get a complete idea of what trauma's aiming mechanism is

[agile mural]

And that's our difference right there. Assuming alot of the average players knowledge on game mechanics

[spice veldt]

I've stated the decomposition of its aiming components

• Aiming arc w/ a fuse, analogous to explosive projectile weapons w/ falloff in this game and many others
• A projectile that passes through others. I don't think this needs relating to any other concepts.

out of curiosity
would you say that adding an arc would easily tell people how to aim the trauma staff

e.g., an arc that is the exact same as that seen by projectile weapons w/ falloff in this game

or would you say that even the addition of this arc would still make trauma's aiming mechanism a mystery

[upper sun]

had 45k melkies last week 😭

[lethal lagoon]

Melk going after your melkies

[upper sun]

got a lot of t4s

[lethal lagoon]

So you got attracted by his melkshake?

Tsk

[upper sun]

got brutal momentum for force sword yesterday

[zinc phoenix]

They bring all the boys to the yard

[plucky flax]

Melky daddy

[rigid sky]

Uwotm8

[upper sun]

sorry force sword as in force power sword not force blaze sword

names

[rigid sky]

Gw names

Power and force weapons are distinct

[upper sun]

remove force tbh

[rigid sky]

NO.

[upper sun]

just peesword and beeswords

buzzz buzz buzz~

[marble crater]

Finally Flechette

[zenith vigil]

why can't we build melee staff?

[cerulean sail]

This whole class is a trauma

[radiant frigate]

🅱️ower sword

[spice veldt]

so true

[potent echo]

bowelsword

[modern bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/лютик-pashaphs-gif-24484512

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword when?

[sleek creek]

is there a cheat sheet for weapons and builds for psyker like the ogrynomicon

[radiant frigate]

sort of?

check pins

for atheneum

[sleek creek]

oh i see

thanks

[radiant frigate]

even if i personally disagree with some choices

[marble crater]

Yes, but by no means does that mean the guide is wrong or bad

It helped me a lot

[quartz barn]

Tbh ive never used it

But i somehow got a 5/5 void before the buff that made it the best weapon in the game

So never needed a guide

[acoustic mountain]

Hola! Bit new to this psyker thing here. Which one would you guys roll with?

[worthy tendon]

I’d rock the one with warp nexus

[acoustic mountain]

Thanks! Think I hold on to both still, and keep going with the nexus one.

[true lake]

run n gun is probably most useless staff blessing honestly

especially for something not automatic like the voidstrike

[marble crater]

I raise you terrifying barrage

[left dagger]

ohnonono

[true lake]

honestly forgot what that one did

[acoustic mountain]

well, i'd reroll the run'n'gun ofc 😄

[true lake]

flurry isn't too bad but on voidstrike it's a preference thing really

I prefer to have it set up for big charged hits rather than spamming

[marble crater]

suppression to nearby enemies after you kill something

[true lake]

oh then yeah terrifying barrage is actively detrimental lol

at least run n gun you could sorta get benefit... barely but at least it doesn't work against you

[plucky flax]

No I did.

Mr unsanctioned.

[rigid sky]

It's not as bad as it sounds tbh

who actually thinks about the aura they take anyway

you just take whatever's more convenient to path through

[marble crater]

You did too, yes

[rigid sky]

or whatever the penance you're chasing tells you to pick

[jovial juniper]

Run 'n' Gun has 30% less spread and 10% close damage, it's just not on the tooltip

More useful than terrifying barrage

[left dagger]

the stealthlot stealth prioritzes objectives, best one ive seen in hundreds of hours of damnation

[rigid sky]

Just because shroudfield attracts bad players

doesn't mean that all shroudfield users are bad players :)

[marble crater]

Maybe bad players are spread out equally across all auras, but with loner it's more obvious

[rigid sky]

I'm still not convinced that even using Loner as intended is stronger than TDR aura

Even when out of coherency

But penances gonna penance

[plucky flax]

Best zealot aura.

[left dagger]

80-90% of stealthknifelots are so bad i got racism against them. this one contributes greatly to our success. ill need to readjust my bias

[marble crater]

Loner could use a rework that benefits the team, like all the other auras

[rigid sky]

In theory it lets you split 3:1 instead of 2:2 in safety

That is a team benefit

[vernal frost]

how does that benefit the team though? its still 3 in coherency for the other 3 people

[hearty oak]

So it does nothing. I'd much rather it be reversed and have you count as two in coherency

[rigid sky]

It just opens up more options for formations

[vernal frost]

its neutral at best for the team, bad at worst cause they could've had a teammate with an aura that affects teammates

[rigid sky]

It's just, basic coherency isn't so good

In theory it prevents additional punisher specialist spawns too btw

[hearty oak]

The best formation is the "OhshitOhshitOhshitOhshit theres a ton of crushers at me split up" formation

[marble crater]

I mean something that benefits from actually being in coherency, there are a fair amount of talents that need coherency or benefit from it, so one person running away on purpose makes them weaker

[vernal frost]

loner is just means to be helpful to your squad, it does nothing for them itself

[rigid sky]

Maybe just make it consider you to be in coherency provided you have LoS to your team

no matter the distance

[vernal frost]

this simple change would at least get rid of it doing literally nothing for the team part

[rigid sky]

so it promotes you dealing with distant threats

[vernal frost]

although it would still do nothing if you have 4 in coherency but still better than anything

[rigid sky]

rather than being in another room entirely soloing the game yourself

[hearty oak]

Will this even matter in a specialists spamming maelstrom?

[rigid sky]

It'd matter for the other coherency benefits

toughness etc

[lone ravine]

Is this about the loner aura being dogshit?

[rigid sky]

benefiting from your team's auras

[vernal frost]

in the end it all boils down to being pretty much the best aura for you at the cost of your teammates

still not as bad as getting a vet without survivalist in a pub imo

[lone ravine]

I mean with how easily zealot spams FotF, the small 3 toughness regen I won’t really notice

[vernal frost]

toughness regen is the least of its benefits

it disables speedrun prevention

so the game doesnt swarm you in specialists

[lone ravine]

I’m usually not that far ahead of my team anyways…

[rigid sky]

If I'm taking Loner, I'm taking Shroudfield too though

so my toughness regen is mostly just second wind

but loner doesn't help it that much anyway

and nothing wrong with not taking survivalist

[vernal frost]

its just easier solo clutches, no punishment for leaving your team, overall better survivability

[rigid sky]

it's the strongest but it's not oppressively strong these days

and there's penances for taking the other auras

and there's combinations of talents that become impossible to get if you take surv aura

[vernal frost]

shit i forgot that fatshark is literally throwing

[rigid sky]

it can be too great an opportunity cost

[vernal frost]

are there any that are like

actually useful

[rigid sky]

My helbore build needs to take close+kill to fit

[vernal frost]

i know psyker has one locked behind 5% elite dmg but its literally ass and never worth it over the crit

[rigid sky]

it's not so much that taking A aura means you can't take B talent

it isn't built like that

[spice veldt]

if you always take VoC, then kraks does save 1 point

[rigid sky]

but it can be that you can't take the set of 30 points you want

if you take surv aura

because you run out of budget

[hearty oak]

Yeah thats why i still see zealots getting caught from a crusher lockon, netted, or getting dogged. Its almost a telltale sign that loner zealots in maelstroms are throwing till they prove themselves

[vernal frost]

well helbore is a different talk tbh

with literally 0 ammo cost lol

[rigid sky]

but you can't rely on always having a veteran with surv aura

you can't rely on always having a veteran full stop

if you get a veteran without surv aura and it really upsets you that much, just pretend in your head that they're another class

[vernal frost]

well its less that and more the concept of a vet with no survivalist

not saying that vet is weak cause he obv is not

but like, after the rebalance i think his tree is very flexible and allows you to get it every time with no loss pretty much

[rigid sky]

Surv Aura itself is just "great" now. Not "game-warping".

so looking at my builds I have a weird grenadier build which definitely can't fit in surv aura and has to take fire team

and then my infiltrate weapon specialist build and my helbore lasgun builds both need to take close+kill

but my plasma and my CIAG are taking surv aura

[upper sun]

i cant believe people before the nerf could actually justify not taking it on anything

now its actually more of a choice

[idle plover]

what blessings should i get for surge staff

[rigid sky]

I'd justify it just to save points sometimes

[rigid sky]

Warp Nexus, Warp Flurry

only good choices you have.

[upper sun]

nexus flurry

flak and your choice between elite and maniac

crit is also alright unyielding is idk some people bring it

[thick mauve]

The lightning seems really fun to use

[marble crater]

It is

[hearty dagger]

So theory about the teaser fartshark dropped
What if there's some degree of environmental destruction involved? I.E, break walls to get to the objective faster or find some secret place to put down a charge to block off an enemy spawn, maybe even slam some supports and collapse the ceiling on a horde

[marble crater]

[thick carbon]

gahDAMN. Hadron's been on a roll (get it? roll? ) this week for good stuff.

[analog agate]

Why infested?

[marble crater]

If it's a really bad perk you plan to replace anyway you can upgrade it to a t4 you don't want for a better chance to get a second perk you do want and then change the first perk back to flak

[upper sun]

so he doesnt roll it

if your first perk is infested it cant be infested again :%(

[analog agate]

Guess I thought that was the finished product

[thick carbon]

infested take the least amount of damage from purg staff aside from carapace and are the second most common enemy.

[analog agate]

Ah so it was intentional. You do you bro

[paper lily]

don't poxwalkers absolutely melt to a wave of purg staff

[analog agate]

Yes haha

[jovial juniper]

Soulblaze damage babeeee

Let's gooooo

[thick carbon]

almost everything does aside from carapace. but I've got BB for those big guys

I'd normally use Maniac, but they take the most damage from soulblaze out of all the enemies, and by a pretty big percentage too.

if I feel like I need to change it though, that's always an option as well

[marble crater]

Flak is usually the way to go, most elites are Flak

[thick carbon]

flak still takes more damage from the purg than infested. besides, I'd rather not try and close the gap between me and a group of gunners just to burn them, even with Deflector and Kinetic Deflection.

[rigid sky]

Infested targets tend to not have much health

Flak gets Scab ragers and maulers too

They're high value

[thick carbon]

BB takes care of both real quick.

[rigid sky]

And Scab bruisers

Depends on their number

You know what this game is like

Sometimes you get 1 sometimes you get fucking 20

[spice veldt]

i mean infested takes 1.25x damage from soulblaze and flak takes 1.5x

the disparity isn't that much

[rigid sky]

Scab shotgunners too

They are often in range

[thick carbon]

why not take care of them before they get in range though? and by the time those 20 ragers get close enough, I'm backpedaling because Psyker is squishy as hell

[spice veldt]

maniac takes the second least damage against soulblaze

well, third

berserker = maniac

[thick carbon]

"disgustingly resilient" lmao. I love that term

[spice veldt]

cuz you get to annihilate them with purg

if you have mettle and the ragers aren't alone with a horde, you can also just hittrade if you want to be greedy

or throw in an LMB

which is fairly quick to do

[rigid sky]

Purgatus is a great answer to any dense cluster. Even crushers if you do the uncanny swap.

[thick carbon]

let's be honest, if they're in with a horde I'm letting the Ogryn or Zealot handle it. usually much better equipped to go toe to toe with ragers and whatnot. my purg class is support/CC

I do have a melee build though that's great against larger targets.

or ragers

[spice veldt]

just rmb lmb ragers

[rigid sky]

Tbh on purgatus I just want to be tagging as many targets with fire as I can as much as I can

[spice veldt]

you're not going out of your way to deal witht hem

[rigid sky]

get more warp charges from in fire reborn

[spice veldt]

just aim in their general direction and call it a day

[rigid sky]

and then get more shrieks

if anything isn't currently on fire I take that as a personal failing

[thick carbon]

you guys just gave me an idea, thank you

[jovial juniper]

Aight I'll be honest, I'm setting them on fire, reduce the amount of work my ogryn and zealot is going to have

[ornate sedge]

tbh i find this game much more difficult without purgatus. the level of stagger you get is insane, makes missions way more survivable

in other words, it is a crutch for me and other classes make no damn sense half the time because i cant just stagger the hell out of the room

[analog agate]

Blaze trauma has become a crutch for me. I know how to dodge/melee. But I just never have to worry about it when I use trauma

[ornate sedge]

exactly. i used to be a melee demon on zealot but i got bored of that and now all i know is psyker assail/purgatus spam

everything dies and the noise of assail getting kills gives me life

[ornate sedge]

you have actual success with trauma? ive always found it underwhelming because the secondary attack is a pain to use

[analog agate]

Dare I say I may have more experience with it than “war” now? I have about 900-1000 hours with trauma in the game. I am almost always the top dmg dealer, top killer, and many times top special killer too. I do pugs only. HISTG or mael

[ornate sedge]

damn

shit goes crazy it seems

1000 hours with that alone tho? brother is starving for a new staff

[analog agate]

Yeah, I don’t think I would have been as involved with the game without it. I just really like playing trauma. Game has become my relaxation thing when I am listening to podcasts or audiobooks

[spice veldt]

ye it really is a comfort weapon

i mostly just use it like a vet nade and play assail + ds4 most times

[analog agate]

If I want to feel the difficulty of the game. I play ogryn. I suck ass as him.

[ornate sedge]

doesnt help that ogryn weapons suck ass

none of them feel good

they need to give him a greatsword or something

[analog agate]

Well, 4 weeks and ogryn gets 2 hander something or other. We will see how it is

[ornate sedge]

indeed. tbh, i think they need to start doing much more regular content updates. this game has been in a drought forever

we get new stuff but its spread so thin

[silk creek]

what blitz is best for gun psyker?

[true lake]

my comfort weapon is slaughterer deimos

so fun to just slice through hordes with it and still be able to go toe to toe with bigger guys

as for gun psyker, blitz is up to you really but I would say either assail or smite as those are not only closer to the DD side of the tree but also BB basically does what gun would do anyway

assail is better at quickly cutting through hordes

smite is funny to stun with

[ornate sedge]

smite is great for stun, if you are currently fucked smite can unfuck you

[true lake]

I never really gave it a proper try but it's basically a blitz version of what surge staff used to be

but slightly better with groups of enemies

[little sapphire]

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[true lake]

trauma staff doesn't really have a particular build for it honestly

most of the build is the staff itself

[ornate sedge]

similarities unfortunately tend to happen when the skill trees are so simple

[little sapphire]

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[true lake]

yeah just what it is sadly

[little sapphire]

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[ornate sedge]

just put together whatever is fun for you honestly

[true lake]

most of the builds are more about what loadout overall you plan to bring rather than building for a specific weapon

[ornate sedge]

dont worry about being unique or whatever

[true lake]

for example gunkers benefit a lot from DD side of the tree

[marble crater]

Purgatus with, BB, shield and EP
Trauma with BB, shriek and warp charges

[lone ravine]

the build is basically, focus on talents for your staff, and your blitz is whatever the weakness o your staff is.

[ornate sedge]

purge with bb?

[true lake]

I need to try to get a good trauma tbh

I never managed to get a good one built

[ornate sedge]

why are you say this

[little sapphire]

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[true lake]

because purgatus with BB is funny, and purgatus can't do ranged well

[ornate sedge]

i usually just use assail for that but i might try bb

[marble crater]

Exactly

[ornate sedge]

have not used bb since the skill tree changes

[true lake]

also no real reason to build into warp charges with purgatus or any of the burn build stuff because it does all the burn stacks by itself

[eager token]

purge with EP bb is gud

[true lake]

so it would be waste of slots for not much benefit

[marble crater]

I use assail on voidstrike, because I go down the right side for DD

[ornate sedge]

can bb kill anything?

[true lake]

yes

[eager token]

ye

[marble crater]

Most things

[true lake]

I use it to melt monstrosities

[ornate sedge]

hmmm

[true lake]

you can literally spam it

[ornate sedge]

got me takin notes

how much peril gen?

[analog agate]

Best blaze trauma build uses warp charges

[eager token]

also it can break LOS which is nice

[true lake]

peril gen is about the same as it was but with EP it negates some

[little sapphire]

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[true lake]

as long as you don't attempt BB at like 100% or slightly below it you're fine

[eager token]

EP and kinetic flayer or whatever makes it cost less after ability use makes it pretty strong

[true lake]

honestly makes it feel as fun as it used to be

[eager token]

i usually run bb+wall/dome+EP if i’m doing that

[true lake]

very strong

wall is better imo

[ornate sedge]

idk if wall > dome

[eager token]

dome has that juicy buff tho

[ornate sedge]

feel like dome is nice and cozy

[true lake]

quicker to get charge for it and not many scenarios I really needed full 360

[eager token]

wall is cool in a choke

[true lake]

dome if you plan to actually use the shield as a shield

wall if you want to just berzerk

[marble crater]

That's what I run with purgatus right now

[true lake]

wall isn't bad by any means but doesn't quite last enough against heavy fire

[eager token]

p much my build

[little sapphire]

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[ornate sedge]

have they said anything at all about new stuff for psyker? new staff, force sword, anything?

[marble crater]

I mostly use wall for funny BB machine gun

[eager token]

EP + kinetic on BB is pretty funny

poppin mfs

[marble crater]

There are new weapons, but not those.

[ornate sedge]

we are fucking starving

[eager token]

give psyker the vampire staff

[marble crater]

Bolt pistol, double barrel shotgun, shockmauls, and 2 handed pickaxe for Ogryn

[ornate sedge]

give psyker anything man

[eager token]

remove shriek talent for raw damage and replace it with dissipating gas/fire

[spice veldt]

~97% is the threshold to not die to a BB cast

[sly atlas]

Hi - I'm hoping if someone could give me advice on a pair of Blaze Trauma staffs. Not sure to go with the Elite that seems to have better stats or the Flak. https://i.imgur.com/pOvk8OX.png https://i.imgur.com/BMdyqV2.png

[marble crater]

Flak one is a lot better

[sly atlas]

Dope, I'll keep using it then. Thank you

[marble crater]

Quell speed is a bit low, but damage is not really a dump stat on Blaze Trauma and flak is mostly just a better elite when it comes to Blaze Trauma, because it targets the base armor type, which is Flak for almost all elites

Only Dreg Ragers and the Ogryns are not Flak

[sly atlas]

That makes sense. I've been very happy with the playstyle after trying it recently

[analog agate]

Dmg can be a dump stat imo on blaze. No breakpoints are missed between an 80 or 50 something. Almost no difference in peril requirement either in killing guys

[marble crater]

I didn't test breakpoints for different damage stats, but more damage doesn't hurt when dealing with big boys, you are also not the only one attacking them, so I think higher damage can still matter as a "breakpoint"

[analog agate]

I would have to test it out but for my play style it doesn’t matter. I just hit one pop on them to get them to the ground and then poke them with ds. I can look when I get home if there is a difference in number of full hits to a crusher

Those are my two

[spice veldt]

yeah i dump damage as well albeit using my trauma as a side weapon mainly

[marble crater]

Nice, then you should also test if the warp resistance makes a big enough difference, because otherwise I see no reason to use the staff on the left, ever

[analog agate]

For warp resistance there honestly isn’t much of a difference either. You can’t get an extra charge or anything before quelling

Yeah, it is why I use the right staff

[marble crater]

Then in a perfect world I will pick resistance as the dump stat for the "team breakpoints" I will just call it now

[lone ravine]

this is good right

[analog agate]

Yeah, I would choose resistance as well. I just like letting people know that a 50 dmg blaze trauma can still be really good and doesn’t break it

[ornate sedge]

i use deflect rather than slaugter but yours is prob better

[lone ravine]

i dont get much use out of deflector

[ornate sedge]

think you want flak damage tho

[lone ravine]

i mean i already have rending

[analog agate]

Yeah… I would probably change maniac to carapace. I think? that with the overhaul you don’t need maniac anything

[lone ravine]

and the push gives free stacks of uncanny

[analog agate]

You should be able to one shot a mutie with H2 without maniac perk.

[upper sun]

i dont think the warp res makes that much of a difference if you're using secondary attacks mostly

youll feel it if you do lmb spam

[tidal rock]

you feelin the warp mr krabs?

[ornate sedge]

buzzing

[marble crater]

That's fair, as long as you can one shot bruisers you are good I guess and don't need a god roll to complete auric

[lone ravine]

hell i almost oneshot them with headshot on L1

[ornate sedge]

damn you play on controller? in the trenches

[marble crater]

Controller players rise up

[lone ravine]

guh?

[ornate sedge]

that shit feels terrible to me

[tidal rock]

is jus comfy

[ornate sedge]

i can only use controller for melee type games

[tidal rock]

some games mouse n keys, some controller.

[wheat tulip]

darktide is 80% melee

[lone ravine]

why is controller being brought up

[wheat tulip]

100% if you play zealot

[ornate sedge]

any shooters do not work for joystick aim

[marble crater]

Because you said L1

[lone ravine]

as in light attack 1 😭

[ornate sedge]

i see

[tidal rock]

I like zapping things then revolver blapping them.

it's so abrupt and indignant, I love it

[ornate sedge]

revolver goes crazy

is there one with a speedloader?

[lone ravine]

the agri has speedload

but its a fan the hammer not aiming

on m2

[ornate sedge]

running to requisitorium

[tidal rock]

it's just so funny to me, grand cosmic powers. Gun.

[tidal rock]

a fan-fire yo what

[ornate sedge]

blap blap blap get dead get dead get dead

[lone ravine]

have you never seen a cowboy fan the hammer

[tidal rock]

I gotta take a gander later

[lone ravine]

its just the way you rapid fire a revolver

[tidal rock]

no I know

Was exclaim at such being in le game

[wheat tulip]

crit psyker fan revolver was all the rage when it first came out

as in raging at players for using it

they had the cape and cowboy hat and everything

[tidal rock]

imagine raging at other Ps in a PVE game

[lone ravine]

[ornate sedge]

seeing a psyker take ammo is kinda irritating

[wheat tulip]

they would literally go through all the ammo it was worse that shotgun zealot

[lone ravine]

wait pskyer can get a cowboy hat??

[wheat tulip]

its like a tricorn but its close enough

[lone ravine]

i need to buy this

[gilded viper]

The rogue trader hat with the plume

[ornate sedge]

in shop rn

go get it

[gilded viper]

It's a great hat

[ornate sedge]

i might grab the gas mask set

[gilded viper]

But yah, I let the others fight over ammo, Staves are cooler

[tidal rock]

aww...that's no cowboy hat

[wheat tulip]

it can be both a cowboy hat and a swashbuckler one so its pretty great

[ornate sedge]

just wish the cash shop was like the vermintide 2 one instead of rotating

[wheat tulip]

duelist sword and pistol

[tidal rock]

I was really enjoying force swords till the game threw a chainsword at me

[wheat tulip]

I couldnt get into force swords, they take too long to be worse than ds5 for hordes and ds4 for elites

[ornate sedge]

but deflector

my ultimate crutch

[tidal rock]

The one with an arrowhead-like end's my fave move set thus far

[wheat tulip]

I dodge too much to be doing anything but dps on the worst melee class

[lone ravine]

honestly i want to use deflector but i dont get shot at enough to use it

and also the amount of options psyker has to just ignore being shot at

[ornate sedge]

i am always getting shot at

what do you mean

[wheat tulip]

most fun melee class worst dps melee class

[lone ravine]

just using my staff can basically cancel out the enemies gunfire dmg

dodge enough and shoot them enough

[wheat tulip]

quick trauma charge stuns them enough to dash in

[tidal rock]

is that what blocking with the sword does?

[ornate sedge]

its a blessing

makes bullets not hit you

[lone ravine]

deflector blessing reduces block cost and allows blocking all gunfire EXCEPT snipers

[ornate sedge]

yeah idk why it doesnt block snipers

[wheat tulip]

if I am still long enough for a gunner to hit me Im dead in 2 seconds anyway

[tidal rock]

never realized what it was doing in all the choas of battle

[tidal rock]

ooooooooooh

[spice veldt]

*block cost reduction only applies to ranged attacks

[lone ravine]

i mean the name of the blessing states that youre only moving the bullets to the side before they hit you, the sniper shot is probably too fast for you to deflect

[ornate sedge]

perhaps

[wheat tulip]

isnt it a laser gun, cant really deflect things at the speed of light

[ornate sedge]

good thing sniper is piss easy to dodge

[lone ravine]

piss easy to dodge til one singular pox walker decides they wanna hug your back the moment you go to dodge in that direction

[wheat tulip]

its not plasma like the other "laser weapons" its a charge laser

[tidal rock]

the noise n smoke trail make me think bolt or slug but idk

[lone ravine]

it got silly laser rings around the bullet trail too so

[ornate sedge]

love when a dog gets you and a poxburster gets you right after

[wheat tulip]

I figured that was it super heating the air

[ornate sedge]

my favorite combo

[wheat tulip]

also classic laser noise

[lone ravine]

speaking of pox bursters i learned that hanging off a ledge just makes them kill themselves and completely miss hitting you

[ornate sedge]

lmfao

[tidal rock]

that's fair

[lone ravine]

i had 2 suicide into me, killing the horde that was around me while i was hopelessly dangling off the ledge because i dodged wrong

[calm sapphire]

Best combo is mutant smack u into holy fire 🔥

[ornate sedge]

bursters and trappers are the two most annoying enemies

they need to make trapper nets require direct LOS. no more phasing through enemies

[lone ravine]

honestly it'd be silly to see a trapper be able to net enemeis like how snipers fucking obliterate enemies they hit

[wheat tulip]

the guessing game when youre completely surrounded and have to dodge a direction but hopefully not into the net

[ornate sedge]

they really should be able to net enemies

other foes have ff why not trappers

[granite mauve]

they'd be useless

[lone ravine]

me watching the trapper net the crusher right before it overheads your clueless psyker

[ornate sedge]

if i can kill a horde with a burster, why should i not be able to use a trapper to net a crusher

[calm sapphire]

Hmm would it be better if u could be able to unnet yourself slowly?

[lone ravine]

i mean disablers should disable you

trappers arent even that much of a threat if your in a group, you are generally untargeted when netted near teammates, you can be freed in less than a second.

[wheat tulip]

I like how I can pull an ogryn up his body height but I cant pull myself up to my elbows

[lone ravine]

you see, you're not pulling the ogryn up, you're telling him you'll give him all your rations if he pulls himself up, its a major motivation technique

[wheat tulip]

I mean sometimes Im on a railing so Im literally already there just lift your legs a bit

[calm sapphire]

Pubs too stupid to go unnet ppl asap

[granite mauve]

actually i want fs to buff trapper, make it so that when they pull you, you can pass through enemies

[lone ravine]

honestly just buff the net itself, that shit does like 10 corruption damage every 3 years

[calm sapphire]

Make trapper drag u away with net

[granite mauve]

so if you get caught it's not just, whatever i'll just untie this guy

[lone ravine]

hookrat PTSD

[granite mauve]

you actually get isolated somewhat

[lone ravine]

[wheat tulip]

Ive had someone netted where we couldnt reach them because we all jumped already, literally too 10 minutes for that ogryn to die

[tired estuary]

Yeah just turn them into hookrats tbh

[wheat tulip]

we were almost done with the mission when we got him back

[tired estuary]

Tho tbf hookrats would be less funny in game without friendly fire

[granite mauve]

i'd be better if they dragged you off yes

instead of netting you and doing their little dance

[lone ravine]

trappers should return to "claim the bounty" of netted teammates if they are far enough from teammates
(by claim bounty i just mean instantly kill the teammate)

[tired estuary]

Okay real talk I would Do A Little Dance after netting somebody too, even if it got me killed

[lone ravine]

save your teammate from the fate of a hookrat, by using silly BH gun straight to the head

[tired estuary]

Kreuger getting hooked and slayer bardin helpfully chucking throwing axes directly into his groin

[lone ravine]

hmmm yes my favorite horror movie character Kruber from nightmare on elm street

[calm sapphire]

It'd be a game changer if trapper could lay down traps

[lone ravine]

like we talking beartraps, or nets that are just lying on the floor waiting to yoink you upwards

[calm sapphire]

Idk something that can slow u down a bit maybe

[hexed geyser]

both and why not tripwires lol

[lone ravine]

watching the ogryn do a summersault as they bullrushed into a tripwire

[hexed geyser]

I'd love to see ogryns and zealots with 2 handed weapons rush like that and trip

[tired estuary]

Stepping into tripwire completely obscured by the crusher mob, psyker trauma spam and vape nation vet smokes

[calm sapphire]

Would it be too op to give poxburster the call in mob ability like the boomer in Left for dead?

[ornate sedge]

if they could lay down traps there would be no safe haven for them the moment they spawn in

instant death once they say their goofy ass line

[lone ravine]

trappers hearing the scream of a zealot get louder and louder the second they open their mouth

[calm sapphire]

Most of the time I don't even hear his goofy laughter anyway until I hear the net cue

[true lake]

I think trapper is a she but it's hard to tell whenever everyone millenia in the future is a genetic amalgamation of what we are today

but yeah usually I hear the net cue first, mfer never wants to make noise sometimes

[rocky yarrow]

idk abt you but i can hear that mouth breathing a mile away

[midnight hull]

Trappers are probably the worst specials in the game. Such bad design. At least in vermintide 2 you could hear hookrats well.

[true lake]

sound bugs sometimes and doesn't play the laugh with them spawning

[midnight hull]

Not to mention bugged sounds. Which makes it even worse.

[true lake]

usually I can hear them as they approach

[midnight hull]

They can get drowned out by poxbursters and stuff though.

[true lake]

but I always rely on the net sound to time my dodge instead, more reliable

not like I can always see them anyway when they shoot through hordes

[midnight hull]

The fact that the net also goes through a crowd is so dumb. Fire I can understand. Net going through 50 enemies to get to me is garbo.

[true lake]

it's just a bit of an oversight that I'm sure they could work on but they got other things they rather tackle first

[upper sun]

but then that would require the ai to figure out how to position the trapper

thats like 4 years of dev time alone

[true lake]

also the hookrat probably does the same thing but no one really questions a hook poking through a bunch of mangy rats as opposed to a giant net launcher

[upper sun]

bruh telo destroyed the psyker meta

every other pyker is running recon bubble declaw BB

[midnight hull]

They can also shoot through some walls . I hate that enemy so much. Pretty much every other lost run , is due to a trapper. Ogryns especially get fucked, due to their messy dodge.

[true lake]

running what now

[upper sun]

you heard me

recon bubble BB declaw

[true lake]

what the fuck is recon bubble BB declaw

can you translate

[upper sun]

recon lasgun

bubble shield

brainburst

devilclaw

[true lake]

ew wtf

devil claw I can sort of see because parry

[midnight hull]

And who came up with this again?

[true lake]

but recon lasgun?

[upper sun]

ogryn is legit unplayable

the manteling is hell

[midnight hull]

Borderline ,yea. I just can't play them. Feels like walking in playdough after playing mostly zealot.

[upper sun]

a very good vet/zealot streamer

[true lake]

would be nice if ogryn could like push away the net or break out of it themselves

their dodge is shit

[midnight hull]

Ohhhhhhh telepots

That guys pretty good, so he can make most builds work.

[upper sun]

yeah exactly

[true lake]

I refuse to use recon lasgun, especially on a psyker

[upper sun]

i dont have much faith in pubs running that

[midnight hull]

Pretty good with scriers. Although anything fully automatic is good with scriers

[true lake]

fair I suppose

scriers always felt kind of lackluster to me

[jovial juniper]

Pretty good with Kinetic Deflection

[midnight hull]

Dude , if you take the autogun, you can pretty much top dps every time with decent aim. Its pretty broken. Especially after recent buff.

Veterans will hate you though

[true lake]

I just never really felt comfortable making a gunker

either never got the good rolls and build for it or just never felt right

[midnight hull]

I felt the same way, it feels weird if youve only used staff. Takes getting used to.

[true lake]

before anything I got to get semi decent guns built up

[midnight hull]

but the crit chance from scriers is insane.

[true lake]

time to raid melk with all my saved up bucks

that is if melk actually decided to stock decent blessings this time around

[midnight hull]

I cant help but love him, I got +2 powersword blessing from him

[true lake]

nice

I've been too lazy to check him for blessings tbh

which I mainly attribute to me not playing as much as I used to back before full release

[midnight hull]

I farm t4 blessings off of him, and also the penances keep me playing.

[true lake]

need to try zealot, I already play psyker like a zealot anyway minus the blowing up people with my mind

[midnight hull]

I used to only play pskyer too, tried zealot, and veteran after

[true lake]

zealot as in OG variant not weird knife ninja bs

[midnight hull]

Playing zealot made learn/love mk3 knife. its so good

I run it on pskyer and veteran too.

[true lake]

shit no mans sky has a new expedition, guess imma be doing that for the next couple days instead

[thorn birch]

spent about 20k plasteel so far trying to get surge on voidstrike and have nearly every other blessing except for it

[true lake]

yeah its a pain to get

[marble crater]

[zinc phoenix]

Finger bangin your way thru the game

[midnight hull]

Surge is overrated. You do enough damage with the staff as is. I prefer the faster charging instead.

[true lake]

i like surge because big funny hit

but flurry is nice too

[marsh badger]

I like flurry/transfer peril on my DD build and surge nexus with warp charges just feels better that way

[true lake]

depends on how much you plan to use the staff really

also my melk has jack shit, all weapons i dont think anyone really uses

there is a columnus in here but it has IV punishing salvo and III raking fire, idk if any of those are good

columnus mk v autogun

[rigid sky]

Raking fire is ok

Dumdum is the must have

Second slot is flexible and raking fire is an option

[midnight hull]

kinda garbo blessings, dumdum, fire frenzy, deathspitter, or stripped down is better

[true lake]

just not sure how often i would really hit something from behind

[midnight hull]

if you dont take sleath, rarely

[jovial juniper]

Apparently works from the sides

[analog agate]

Ok, tested. Both staves take 6-7 full shots to take out a crusher (variable is crit or him being lit on fire). Both staves can do 4 full charges before having to quell

[true lake]

idk if trauma is really used for crushers

[marble crater]

Thanks for testing, quite surprising honestly. Did you also test the smaller elites?

[true lake]

try it on some of the elites like mauler

or other random elites that basically blend into the hordes like gunners

[thorn birch]

finally...

[thorn birch]

yeah but i am a collector of blessings

[marble crater]

[rigid sky]

Yeah tbh Crushers get the Deimos or the brain rupture, on my trauma build

It's not great against ogryn or bosses in general

[lone ravine]

woo finished smite penance time to never use this blitz again

[lyric burrow]

the correct thing to do

using smite for a few games to get the penance put me in a bad mood

[lone ravine]

i got really frustrated doing the penance on my last game becaue every time i went to go smite like 5 seconds into smiting, the other psyker would start smiting even though i use shriek to extend mine

[quick python]

the solution is simple: explode barrels next to other psykers

[thorn birch]

im leveling that penance a dozen enemies or so at a time because I refuse to use smite on groaners

[lone ravine]

they never stood next to barrels 😭

[lone ravine]

ive just been using EP smite so i can get kills even when my teammates immediately go snooze the second i use smite

also anyone got a good assail build i can use

i basically never go right side tree

[lyric burrow]

i have one ive used since like 3 months ago and its all ive run although its meant for gunker

[thorn birch]

use it with gunpsyker. when need to melee just throw one or two shards and engage in cqc

[lone ravine]

just need these penances done then i can go silly on damnation

[spice veldt]

basically just take assail upgrades, make your way through DD, and pick whatever nodes you like along the way

e.g., this is what i run

[lyric burrow]

you can take this with p much any gun and any melee and itll work

las pistol/columnus will yield best results

[feral verge]

i didnt ask

[lyric burrow]

ds4/deimos or w/e as per usual for melee

[spice veldt]

i hope you trip

in the comfort of your own home

so you feel stupid for tripping

[lone ravine]

bro wasnt even in the conversation

[lyric burrow]

what the FUCK

[feral verge]

that does it

now you've gone too far

[spice veldt]

your son is getting the treatment he deserves

[lyric burrow]

i hope you trip and feel so dumb you never show your face here again

so we can all be in peace

[feral verge]

i will turn you into ash, only what's sad is... you are unfit, even to be ash

[spice veldt]

i'm going to have your son for breakfast

and lunch and dinner

he will make a very nice 2k calorie lasagna

[lyric burrow]

"wouldnt bite people btw"

[feral verge]

MENTALLY UNWELL

[lone ravine]

does anticipation increase empathic evasion timer?

[spice veldt]

nah it's referring to your lingering dodge i-frames

and specifically against melee attacks

it's like 0.2 seconds for psyker so it gets bumped up to 0.3 or whatever

[lyric burrow]

yeah i mostly take it because theres not much else id take instead

is nice QOL anyway

[spice veldt]

i take it since i'm running dome shield anyways so i don't exactly need empathic

[lyric burrow]

esp since im mashing spacebar at all times anyway

[lone ravine]

yea but it just says counts as dodging so i'd thought it'd affect me

[lyric burrow]

yeah dome probably doesnt need it

arcos build will be safer

mines mildly more crackheadish

[spice veldt]

boss encounters under magistrati's midevent area have made me seethe and taken the dome shield

[lyric burrow]

for once

[spice veldt]

he admits it

[hasty breach]

i want to make a cursed voidstrike burning spirit build

maybe damage at 10%

[lyric burrow]

i have always admitted it wym

you losing memory

[supple dock]

my fellow siblings

I am now a ruthless backstab enjoyer on zealot

that is all

[thorn birch]

i also do haymaker on knife

leads to funny moments (I am a gambler)

[supple dock]

i loved playing the shade in VT2

This is the exact same role

[dusk void]

You betrayed us

[marble crater]

He actually did

[late sapphire]

I hope they add the javelin to darktide 🙏

[true lake]

https://tenor.com/view/destroy-the-sith-star-wars-it-was-said-that-you-would-destroy-the-sith-not-join-them-gif-16486235

[cloud flare]

What do I change for this?

[thick mauve]

MAYBE more sprint efficiency?

[marble crater]

Weak spot to Flak or Maniac
And depending on your playstyle one of the blessings to slaughterer or uncanny, changing either of them can work and either way it involves using your special a lot.

[cloud flare]

Damn shame, I don't have either of those blessings. Thanks for the help! Will screenshot this for future use

[marble crater]

Those two blessings together also work to be fair, using the special for bloodthirsty increases peril for unstable power, you can probably use it like that for now as well

[cloud flare]

Awesome, will take it for spin. Thanks again!

[thick mauve]

I like space wizard magic

[lone ravine]

what blessings for heavy las pistol would be good for psyker

[rich spindle]

Ghost ia my favorite

Dum dum will be the most consistent damage increase and infernus works well with scrier's gaze for more boss damage

[lyric burrow]

i like dum dum and w/e honestly

i personally run infernus cause im critting a lot

but its p w/e after dum dum

[analog agate]

Tried Mauler is 4 shots for both trauma (3 if crit). Ragers are 3 unless you crit. Shotty are 2 or 1 if you crit. This was with 6 warp charges. No difference in any amount of trauma charges. In the heat of the moment gameplay, you wouldn’t notice a difference. Your team wouldn’t either

[potent echo]

Infernus would mainly be for gryns and boss

[potent echo]

With rending you can reduce shotgunners to 1shot as long as you catch them in the rending aoe

Rending aoe is the same aoe as blaze trauma

[inland magnet]

Dunno if this is new but...I'm noticing that the psyker has two chainsword options now, what's that all about>?

[wheat tulip]

there was a second released chainsword a while back

so all the small guys get an extra

[inland magnet]

I have a decent one, but I never use it. It's pretty shit compared to a force sword's ability to take down specials and elites, plus losing the ability to bowl crushers over isn't ok with me

[potent echo]

Psyker chainsword with rev it up brrr

[inland magnet]

Looks and sounds cooler than it is

[potent echo]

But with no atk speed buffs they are kinda slow and hard to use

Vs something like illisi

But they do synergise well with crits

[wheat tulip]

chainsword if you can get it to 1 hit chaff is a pretty good tool to haul along against carapace to free up a ranged slot for something else on vet and zealot

[potent echo]

During horde clear

[wheat tulip]

but thats a god roll

[inland magnet]

Is it just me...or is Vermintide 2 getting more updates by sheer number and more frequent updates than Darktide?

[potent echo]

Nah we get hotfix every two weeks

[ornate hamlet]

Probably easier to update

[potent echo]

And drip update

[inland magnet]

Sorry, probably should have clarified "Content"

[potent echo]

People forget the absolute drought between sott and necromancer

[wheat tulip]

just lost a high intensity match on the last turn before the vert on hab drayko, mutants grabbing people through crowds and holding them in bomber fire killed 3, kind of sucks

[potent echo]

Vert?

[wheat tulip]

vertibird? dont know how to spell it so I figured vert would work

[analog agate]

I was seeing if dmg/warp res is dump stat on blaze trauma. They both are

[potent echo]

Valkyrie

But that's unfortunate

[wheat tulip]

oh right this isnt fall out, they look exactly the same though to the point I wonder who ripped off whose design

[potent echo]

It's the pelican too

[lethal lagoon]

There aren't really a lot of designs for a transport ship

[potent echo]

Or the XCOM firebird

[lethal lagoon]

Probably based on something in real life

[potent echo]

Why don't they have a chopper

I guess choppers don't work in space

[wheat tulip]

choppers arent future tech theyre ww2 tech so they dont look cool enough

[lethal lagoon]

Because they found people yelling "Get to the chopper" into their shitty mics made for a bad experience.

So they scrapped the extraction helicopter

[potent echo]

They could rework the Jesus nut to the emperor nut though

[wheat tulip]

Also trauma staff is OP, I used it maybe 1/5 of the round and it was 2/3 of my damage and half the lead guys so I should stick to that instead of melee

I tossed 8 crushers around like dolls

[lethal lagoon]

Why you tossing dolls around?

You want haunted dolls?

That's how you get haunted dolls

[wheat tulip]

not my dolls, my sister has to sleep in the same room as them, or atleast did 15 years ago so haunted dolls would be a pluss

[lethal lagoon]

(Blaze Trauma is the only Trauma)

[potent echo]

I would actually buy a crusher doll

Or a plushie

[supple dock]

this implies an implication of there being more than 1

[lethal lagoon]

fuck

I would buy literally any heretic plushy

[ornate hamlet]

No you wouldn't

[lethal lagoon]

Hadron needs to be a bit bigger so I can throw it at the wall when I get a bad roll

[potent echo]

Dreg bomber live reaction

[wheat tulip]

so what warp flurry blaze for the blessings? or do you want more crits on it to hit blaze more often

[lethal lagoon]

Good point, I can't afford $250 for a 8 inch plushy.

Nexus Blaze, 80% charge rate and Blast Radius.

[ornate hamlet]

You could buy a different 8 inches

[lethal lagoon]

Too small

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-damn-not-here-gif-26121616

[lethal lagoon]

[wheat tulip]

new disabler, spy from tf2 that acts like a hook rat on backstab

disguise as a teammate and walks up behind you

cant wait for versus mode

[lethal lagoon]

New disabler, uses A.I tech to sense mic quality and will spawn for you every time you talk.

[potent echo]

Dresses up like rannick and says the line

https://youtu.be/LIGzbF5ztNs

[wheat tulip]

just randomly shoots one of you as an alternative monstrosity spawn, instant full corruption

[hasty breach]

thats kinda cool

[inland magnet]

Ethereal shards or quick shards?

[potent echo]

Both

Quick shards more optional

[analog agate]

You want more crits. So, nexus

[dusty orbit]

finally reached trust level 30 for my psyker

now to do it 3 more times

[lethal lagoon]

4 Psykers?

Nice.

[dusty orbit]

maybe after i reach 30 on my zealot, ogryn, and veteran

[lethal lagoon]

[dusty orbit]

then i'll delete all of them to make a point

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

No crafting

[quick python]

there is no forgiveness

[upper sun]

melk got me surge

hadron gets the rope on the day of the update

[supple dock]

There are over 170,000 words in the english language and none of them are adequate to describe the hatred I have for you

[upper sun]

nexus 4 and flurry 4 for trauma took me like 5 hours of missions/crafting

thrust 4/power cycler 4 took me about 3 weeks? and about 50-60k plasteel

no one can be lucky with everything

i swear to god those two blessings are on reduced chances by fatshark

[lethal lagoon]

Kusu-chan: Dai Kirai

I never got power cycler, so when they added a tier 3 version I just happily accepted my tier 3 and moved on.

Thankfully the newer power sword doesn't need tier 4 anyways

[upper sun]

holy cope

[lethal lagoon]

It does 2 cleaves and then a weird ass diagonal

[upper sun]

bro has never felt the touch of a peesword with pcycle 4 and brutal momentum

[lethal lagoon]

Easier to double double, special

[upper sun]

take a deep breath

[lethal lagoon]

No

I will remain at this level of copium whether you like it or not

[upper sun]

i dont need anything else for vet i have a good ciag shotgun and peegun+shobel and peesword

really hope bolt pistol doesnt become meta when it releases 😭

(it will)

my babies

[lethal lagoon]

Is there an example of a non-mark weapon release that didn't become meta?

If only we had a larger sample size

[upper sun]

i havent had the game when a new weapon dropped tbh

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly speaking, the only new weapon drop I can remember is Illy and Demios

[upper sun]

naming my first born illisi frfr no cap

[lethal lagoon]

Illisi, Illy for short.

Deimos if it's a boy

[upper sun]

illisi for both

[lethal lagoon]

Respect.

[stark notch]

Name sounds like it's right out of Greek mythos

[lethal lagoon]

Deimos literally is.

I don't know about Illisi

[supple dock]

Pretty sure deim-

Yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Probably the fem version of Illiad or some shit

Illiya is a russian name I think

[supple dock]

Wait isn't Deimos Roman?

... Now I'm unsure

[lethal lagoon]

Kusu-chan: "Oh no I'm so slow, baka baka."

[supple dock]

I'm typing on phone

[lethal lagoon]

Wiki says greece

Although Greeks typically don't name their children after greek myth figures, right?

So saying it's a greek name might not be accurate

[lethal lagoon]

I'm eating, so I have to literally pick up my keyboard from the floor

[supple dock]

Lmao imagine eating

[cinder moon]

"roman"

i think the word you were looking for is "latin"

[lethal lagoon]

Literally just an anime girl

[vestal fulcrum]

Wawa, ayaya is loose upon the world

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, Latin is used a lot for latino nowadays.

Like if you google "Latin Women" you won't get romans or italins lmao

[cinder moon]

they don't speak latin though

[lethal lagoon]

[spiral storm]

Which was the best dueling sword again?

[upper sun]

mk4

most heavy damage and looped

mk5 for easier to hit heavies and stoopid mobility

mk2 for memes

[spiral storm]

Mobility is the drop stat?

[upper sun]

defense/mobility and cleave damage

[spiral storm]

perks' I'm assuming flak and maniac

wut aboot blessings

[upper sun]

usually it kills flak find even without it

maniac and uncanny are most important rest is up to you between carap/unyielding/flak and rampage or shred

[spiral storm]

What does uncanny strike do again?

rend on weakspot?

[rigid sky]

Yep

Rending applies to soulblaze that is already ticking too

[lethal lagoon]

Carpace + Maniac, Uncanny + Crit something, Mobility is the dump but not too low.

Maniac is probably the more important perk of the 2

Not everyone likes to poke crushers

[lethal lagoon]

Armor pen on weakspot, it's a self buff.