psyker-class

[supple dock]

I brainstormed like 15 minutes with Atlas to get a good name LMAO

[untold niche]

You and atlas both need cleaning

[supple dock]

Another idea was TeamPlayer

Only run loner and stealth

[hasty breach]

tell me more

[untold niche]

Lame. I think slightly internet humour funnier would be to do the same but name yourself LetMeSoloHer

That still lame but the contrast wouldn't be as jarring / obvious

[hasty breach]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-kitten-gif-25046188

[supple dock]

Basically it's someone whose primary kink is being tied up/immobilized

[hasty breach]

.< i wasnt serious

[supple dock]

Look man

[hasty breach]

is the trapper just a dominatrix

[supple dock]

People be curious

And the people that don't know now know why it's funny

[untold niche]

Name yourself KOTL and use purge / void and only play lights out

[hasty breach]

lights out is fun

[untold niche]

Not fun because i always get unexpectedly fucked

I run and run and happy kill stuff then suddenly rager and crusher blob

[hasty breach]

thats the fun part youre terrifeid the whole time

[untold niche]

And then I run and run but back to team

The worst part about running from crushers is that you might get OH-ed and you can't block

[lethal lagoon]

Enjoy your time Smurfing

It'll be over before you know it

[potent echo]

Tiemeupmommy

[lethal lagoon]

Try to play during peak hours, so you get queued with new people

[potent echo]

Flattenmedaddyuwu

[lethal lagoon]

NothingButNet

[supple dock]

bro wtf I can't talk in game

PTT doesn't work

[lethal lagoon]

Soft banned for username

[supple dock]

open mic works

[lethal lagoon]

[supple dock]

but not ptt

[lethal lagoon]

They know full well zealots will never ptt

[supple dock]

lmao

[lethal lagoon]

It's a feature, not a bug

How can you rage into the mic about no one helping you out of the net 300 meters away from your team if you have to hit the PTT first?

Smh Kusu-chan, think.

[supple dock]

lmao

wtf

https://tenor.com/bB1As.gif

[hasty breach]

https://tenor.com/view/stuck-trapped-flip-over-stuck-on-soccer-net-help-gif-14558028

[lethal lagoon]

When you are rushing ahead with the zealot and he suddenly leaves the game

[stiff falcon]

My vet is LetMePlasmaThem

[supple dock]

So. Ok going to play stealth loner zealot

[lethal lagoon]

Have you ever played without skill points?

😕

Or rather, without the talent tree filled?

[supple dock]

i mean, yes

I leveled a psyker didn't I

[lethal lagoon]

Post patch 13?

Cause if you leveled it before patch 13, you've literally never played without the talent tree filled.

[lethal lagoon]

[stiff falcon]

We back

[supple dock]

oh true

wtf zealot is broken

[lethal lagoon]

[strong gulch]

Holy feck. I started getting major brain fog mid match. I could not manage my peril at all.

I looked for my glasses like 7 times.

[untold niche]

Still need to be directional

Its not that great since you regen I think half stam if you get hit while sprinting

[thorn cedar]

love 10% sprint speed

[potent echo]

Wait what's that mod

Can you really access crafting without loading into mourningstar

[ionic sorrel]

Dang, you the bomb.

[supple dock]

When this happens to me I tend to overthink my muscle memory and flub all my inputs

[lethal lagoon]

Oh no I blew by accident, Kusu-baka.

[lethal lagoon]

This happens to me when I change warp resist stats.

[strong gulch]

SAME

[untold niche]

Or when I go no VS

Then I bubble as if it will quell

[ionic sorrel]

That's relatable.

[untold niche]

[potent echo]

Change staff and can't edge at 85% anymore

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like that's just your Karma for running bubble.

[untold niche]

Kirbycream.jpg

[potent echo]

Cream?

[untold niche]

That was my first time trying bubble

[untold niche]

Give me one minute. Stay on this chat

[potent echo]

Who creams to kirby

[lethal lagoon]

[untold niche]

@potent echo

[ionic sorrel]

Sometimes I go back to scream after not using it for a while. When I am about to burst, I forget I have it, and run into a crowd. 🫡

[potent echo]

[untold niche]

Lost the edge

Peril combustion

[untold niche]

Mods say picture too notti to be in zealot chat

[potent echo]

Probably for the best

[supple dock]

Hmm

Ruthless backstab or lacerate?

I don't have the crit for flesh tearer

[untold niche]

What is ruthless backstab

[supple dock]

or whatever the fuck it's called

[potent echo]

Psyker knife go precog or riposte?

[supple dock]

zealot!

[untold niche]

No I genuinely asking

[potent echo]

The one that gives rending on backstab

[untold niche]

Like waht does it do

Ohhh

[lethal lagoon]

You can access bleed crit at like lvl 3.

[untold niche]

I think psyker hard to backstab eight

[supple dock]

oh shit you're right

[untold niche]

Oh zealot

[supple dock]

So backstab?

[potent echo]

Just uncanny like a normal reject

[supple dock]

I have uncanny!

[lethal lagoon]

Uncanny flesh tearer

[supple dock]

hmmm

ok

[potent echo]

Uncanny itself is enough

[untold niche]

Kusu are you on momentum or xritspam?

[lethal lagoon]

Kusu gonna rock an orange knife to dunk on all the noobs

[untold niche]

Just curious

[potent echo]

Plus precog/riposte/fleshtearer

[supple dock]

YEP

[supple dock]

i'm level 7

[untold niche]

Ohh soz

WAIT THEN WHY ARE YOU GWTTUNT VLESSINGS

[supple dock]

a: i can afford it

b: bleed doesn't scale right?

[potent echo]

Just do it

[supple dock]

It just always does damage

so my low damage isn't an issue because i can bleed

[potent echo]

Bleed same damage

[untold niche]

You know its not good to flex your money >:(

[supple dock]

lmao

[potent echo]

It's more poggers on sedition

Maybe that's why people love lacerate

[cinder moon]

siblings

[lethal lagoon]

Going by warhammer prices, that's like 20 grand?

[strong gulch]

I bought a decent knife from melk as soon as I could. It carried me all of the way to 30 on my baby zealot.

[supple dock]

yeah I just made this

[potent echo]

I can already smell the musk

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe lacerate rather than uncanny for low levels

[supple dock]

That's what I was thinking!

[cinder moon]

[potent echo]

Bruh

[untold niche]

@supple dock I think because of you alot of people in your region will start going bleed because they saw the pro player killing stuff in 1 bleed tick

[lethal lagoon]

Oh so it's a $50 gaming chair marked up 1200%

That makes sense

[supple dock]

LOL

[potent echo]

More like a 100$ chair but yea

[lethal lagoon]

I bought a $50 gaming chair, I can't remember why, but it was actually decent.

[untold niche]

I bought a 1k office chair because I'm fat. It's good.

[lethal lagoon]

Unfortunately it was a ladies chair, so I gave it to my mom, and she likes it better than her expensive office chair.

[untold niche]

What you mean ladies chair

[cinder moon]

ergo chairs are worth the cost, gaming chairs are not ergo and are actually harmful

[lethal lagoon]

As in my balls were about to get squished.

[cinder moon]

that's so kusucore

[untold niche]

Time to sunat

[potent echo]

Someone I know went through like 6 chairs before settling for a shitty wooden chair

[untold niche]

You should Google that

[untold niche]

Gui would you commit sunat

[supple dock]

just because I can

[potent echo]

Wtf is sunat

[untold niche]

How are you SEA and don't know

Disappointed

[potent echo]

Bro why

[untold niche]

So you googled it?

[lethal lagoon]

Nah

[potent echo]

Isn't it for wimenz

[untold niche]

No

[untold niche]

It'd sfw

At least the text is

[lethal lagoon]

Nah

[untold niche]

Atlas you are not fun anymore

[lethal lagoon]

Nah

[cinder moon]

ever since i made that pfp for him

[potent echo]

Kirbycream

[lethal lagoon]

I've only gotton cooler

[cinder moon]

good of you to notice

[lethal lagoon]

I made it

[cinder moon]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-astartes-turn-astartes-turn-warhammer-40k-space-marine-warhammer-40k-astartes-space-marine-turn-gif-15925912834426228665

[lethal lagoon]

You can stare but don't touch

[untold niche]

Noy only he become unfun he become liar

Ego got to him

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/bivtZ.gif

[lethal lagoon]

My ego is so massive that the only conclusion I can come to is that any positive statement about me is inherently humble.

And any negative statement means it's opposite day.

[cinder moon]

what have i done to deserve such terrible companions

[cinder moon]

even the greatest hero is but a ripple on the surface of space

cleave to the emperor's light

forget not; forgive nothing

[lethal lagoon]

For deez nuts

[untold niche]

I'm not funny, atlas is lying, gui doesn't know what sunat is. Today is not a good day

[potent echo]

Sunat dese

[untold niche]

I will sunat you

KLIP KLIP MOTHERF

[cinder moon]

let thy weapon be zeal, and thy armor contempt

[untold niche]

I succumbed to cringy Internet humor

[untold niche]

I should name my FT knife zealot sunat machine

Actual regional joke

Can we change names now or update not yet come

[cinder moon]

to withdraw in disgust is not apathy

[untold niche]

Knite stop your highspeak

You know its a good name

You are just jealous you don't get to be as cringe as I am

[cinder moon]

truth begets hatred

[untold niche]

SunatMachine

[untold niche]

Someone answer me pls

[stiff falcon]

Yeah

Can’t remember

[untold niche]

@supple dock what region are you

[supple dock]

NA

[supple dock]

Can change name

[untold niche]

I think NA might still be possible. We can be sunat brothers.

Wait then how come you create new character

[potent echo]

Yea you can can't you

[crimson zealot]

Herlo pysker gamers, which blessing would you prioritize to upgrade to lvl 4?

[potent echo]

Flurry

Faster charge means more fun

[crimson zealot]

What about the two extra stacks of 5% brittleness? Is it not rly that important?

[potent echo]

You can stack it to 40% still

[supple dock]

because I literally only have a psyker

[potent echo]

I think

If it works like the ogin weapons

[crimson zealot]

ill test it out

oh you're right

Yuh flurry it is then, thx for your help

Looking at only the modifiers, which of these two staffs is better for Flurry + Rending Shockwave?

[potent echo]

Warp res might be important, need to test it

Either you need 1 or 2 tics of quell makes some difference when edging

But for flurry rending you don't really need to edge

So either is fine really

[crimson zealot]

I read the Pysker Atheneum and it says to prioritize damage for Flurry + Rending Shockwave. Think ima be going with the staff with 56% warp resistance but higher dmg

Also, this warp generation doesn't seem too bad to me imo

[potent echo]

Atheneum is like a general guide

[crimson zealot]

Trueee

ill just bring both to a pub game and see which one fits me better

Thx for the help again ^-^

[sacred crane]

Warp resistance only really matters on staffs, on force swords it means NOTHING

[untold niche]

which moth was ijn psyker chat

therre is so many moths

the one thgat ask me for the slide tech video

@hasty breach

[hearty oak]

Man, i havent been able to put down the EP smite + vent combo. Just ticks every category i need for a build

[sacred crane]

please

i wanna be kind about this

dont smite build

[hearty oak]

Why tho

[hearty oak]

I been out dpsing most zealots that arent running meta builds. Its fun

[sacred crane]

i've just been carrying as a scrier psyker

[hearty oak]

Id been carrying with BB bubble psyker. Just feels good to use smite now that i know to use it in conjunction with something

[stiff falcon]

Post clip of you clutching with it

[upper galleon]

Why need clip

[hearty oak]

No recording software

[upper galleon]

Ep ventflame smite is ridic rn

[untold niche]

https://youtu.be/CCd9cWYa36c
OBS Doesn't have default noise suspression so you will have to deal with the sound of my turbo fan
its not a good video, please don't share.

[upper galleon]

Def not to be confused with bubblesmiters allergic to damage talents

[stiff falcon]

If you have a bad team, it becomes less good, unless you are also fast and just run away

[upper galleon]

Not really?

It doesnt suffer that problem like base smite, you can kill your entire cone of vision with one smite and vent

Just know when to swap to staff or sword

Like im one of the ones who said “it becomes less good with a bad team” with old surge staff

[hearty oak]

inb4 smite loses damage and just becomes a stagger only ability

[upper galleon]

Ep blaze vent smite is just ridic

[untold niche]

doesn't change anything, would still be OP as hell

[upper galleon]

Other way around

Fatshark generally wants the game to be more damage and offensive based while still having defensive options

I can see smite losing it’s insta stunlock everything before they make it a 0 damage

But then again, they have chorus in the game

[stiff falcon]

Chorus is just worse voc

[untold niche]

nah

i find chorus more similar to smite

CC so hard yo upractically dont have to pla ythe game

[upper galleon]

Smite deals damage and voc doesnt stop you from doing damage

[stiff falcon]

Middle of the tree is just bad compared to other options, the cost is pretty hard when you outright lose damage potential

[untold niche]

i find the damage to be negligible

[lethal lagoon]

You spend too much time in the discord to be trolling like this

[upper galleon]

Also, chorus only makes the enemy wiggle with the least amount of stagger, and it drops your personal dps to zero

[stiff falcon]

That’s just picking momentum and 80 mobility knifes

Not playing the game that is

Just break aggro

[upper galleon]

Helps mid/average teams the most

[untold niche]

im not referring to EP Smite
but even then, i never use smite.
I don't like to use it, i dont like when people use it, likewise for chorus.

[stiff falcon]

The voc nerf that’s coming in the next balance patch will be funny

[upper galleon]

Bad teams lack damage and you’ll get overwhelmed cause you dont have the damage to carry via killing, good teams will have a cushion but it isn’t needed

[untold niche]

yeeah but that build, only the player is not playing the game
if someone else smite im not playing the game either, at that point i might as well play kovaak

[upper galleon]

I doubt voc will eat another direct nerf

[stiff falcon]

It needs a cooldown increase

[upper galleon]

They’d probably hit cdr and overtough as a mechanic

Yes but not directly imo

[stiff falcon]

Infil is fine because only people who are actually good at the game know how to use it

[lethal lagoon]

Smite should follow the fantasy convention and have a 1-100 stagger range or something.

Reliable CC is bad for this game

[stiff falcon]

And the other is just laughingstock under powered compared to voc

[hearty oak]

I dont even think they will. Not when you have more annoying specials that spam gas and fire bombs. Its a good trade off

[untold niche]

its hard CC for a long period of time as well

[lethal lagoon]

Well, not for 99% of pubs

They'll get smacked in the back or shot till they get downed most of the time

I've never run into a competent smite user

[untold niche]

i have games where every big fight involved a smite and it was boring as fuck

[stiff falcon]

Me in pubs with stealth zealots

[hearty oak]

I was playing Maelstrom most of the evening doing the build

[potent echo]

Me

[stiff falcon]

Never seen a single person use it to reposition

[potent echo]

You don't get to play

[lethal lagoon]

I'm fairly certain I'm the one who pushed you to use EP smite

[stiff falcon]

Instead of a panic button

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

I don't get to play

Everybody don't get to play

[untold niche]

i only use it to revive and objectives
or to assassinate the reaper

[lethal lagoon]

I play it too, it's just most people are complete shit with it, I don't find it game breaking.

[untold niche]

not in m yregion

[lethal lagoon]

But when a good player uses it, it kinda of ruins the game.

[hearty oak]

Probrably. I was bored enough to give it a try and seen its fun value

[untold niche]

SEA mentality is a different level fo meta

[stiff falcon]

Move behind boss, kill boss quick with either raking or melee 10k+ backstabs

[potent echo]

SEA people are crazy

They just dive and die

[untold niche]

me on zealot vs 12 crushers, but then suddenly stealth bomber

[lethal lagoon]

Average smite player I run into basically turns the game into a 3 man

[hearty oak]

Caxe zealots actually kill the game for me and my friend

[potent echo]

I play on japanese server once and everyone's so safe and huddle together

[lethal lagoon]

Can you just change servers without a vpn or anything?

[potent echo]

Yea

[untold niche]

caxe zealot shouldn't outdamage a trauma or void

[potent echo]

Just choose on the side

[untold niche]

im a caxe and void main

[potent echo]

Press V or smth on the mission board

[lethal lagoon]

I find Japanese souls players really interesting, so I think I'll give that a whirl.

[potent echo]

Nah they are really bad at FPS

[lethal lagoon]

I said interesting

[potent echo]

Understandable

[hearty oak]

They do but not by much. Ive had a 2500+ Caxe zealot beat me out by 40k damage one match then 10k in the next

He died from a barrel

[upper galleon]

You kinda have to look at the game philosophy, no mines, no turrets, no emplacements on the map even during “survive/defend” segments

[untold niche]

oesnt make sense.
void has practically infinite cleave, can 1 shot crushers.
Caxe takes about 4-6 hits ( i can't rmb)

[upper galleon]

No mounted guns

It’s all about aggressive gameplay

[untold niche]

the only thing you would lose out on is if gunners spread out, then the zealot will clear them faster because yo ucant cleave the spread out gunners obviously, and charge takes some time

against hordes void should win if you position properly

[hearty oak]

Not always. Needing surge to proc a lot for it. But the Caxe was using a marty build and managed themselves well

[untold niche]

even if surge doesn't proc its a 2 hit.

and again, void should win in zombie horde clear

[hearty oak]

That should give you an idea of how ridiculous Caxe is on a zealot

[untold niche]

i play caxe amrtyr

5 stacks wound

[hearty oak]

If you're fast, you can stay on top of the horde killing

[untold niche]

theres no reason DD void doesn't beat caxe

[hearty oak]

and outpace the psyker

[untold niche]

the axe only swings so fast, meanwhile ball goes thru whole horde

[lethal lagoon]

Equal skill, a zealot can just speed enough ahead that you won't win on scoreboard. I haven't run into one in a pub yet, but I Imagine that's what would happen

[untold niche]

you dont run that fast on caxe, but this could be a possibaility, idk.

[potent echo]

Mounted gun.. on rails

[untold niche]

you would defo have enough time to catch up to blast one 20% charged void into horde to clear like 10 zombies

[lethal lagoon]

Also, keep in mind, someone already in melee range will ruin bowling alleys for void because it causes enemies to scatter and spread out around them.

[hearty oak]

But if the ball has no horde to hit then its not hitting anything.

[untold niche]

caxei s not going to clear a horde in 2 seconds :v

[lethal lagoon]

No, but it might clear bowling alleys

Anyways, this is all just theory because more often than not any zealot that runs ahead just get's trapped

[cinder moon]

they either die or they retreat after aggroing every mob in the next 6 rooms and failing to deal with them

[untold niche]

idk i had way better performance on void
On void only vets outdamaged me
on zealot i might lose to another psyker

[cinder moon]

i hate every knife zealot i see

[hearty oak]

With BM and charge, you swing super fast and enough to clear through waves. Also do the zealot thing and run ahead and stir up trouble in a part of the map where its risky but no one interupts your rampage

[untold niche]

clear waves yes, but again you are not kiulling them like instantly... :v

[hearty oak]

It might as well be. Its disgusting

[untold niche]

i have hallway cleared on vopid psyker in like 3-5 seconds though
caxe zealot takes some time

[potent echo]

Probably better or comparable to evis

[untold niche]

have you played both?

[potent echo]

No psyker has no attk speed buff

That's the main diff

Zealot can get up to 35% atk speed

[hearty oak]

Ive played a lot of loadouts. Caxe zealot just pops off when given the right circumstances. While i know psyker void does big damage when given the chance, if they cant keep up with the zealot speeding ahead, then the artillery will be used for bosses

[untold niche]

no im just asking if you played both the void psyker on DD and caxe martyur zealot

[hearty oak]

yeah, that was me answering your question

[untold niche]

ah sorery, because it was naot ver yclear./ it could mean "i play alot of loadouts [to show your experience] [but imply taht you ahve not played one or both of those]"

aslso forgive typos

keyboard is at 90 deg angle

[untold niche]

i always managed to be at the front with void psyker,l i dont htink cvaxe run is that muc hfaster.

[hearty oak]

Text doesnt do discussions well when talking about "Well when i do this build..."

[untold niche]

time for my monster hunter for c asuals

I DONT PLAY THE WAIFU CHARACTERS

[potent echo]

Cringeblue fantasy

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it is cringe.

But it's a pretty great game

[untold niche]

^

THE LOCALISATION IS PRETTY TRASH TOO

\

CAPS

[lethal lagoon]

The japanese voices are good but the problem is they are from 2012

That was back in the squeaky woman voice era

It aint the "ara ara" of the covid era.

[potent echo]

It's just the lizard woman

She has one role

[untold niche]

WHO IS LIZARD WOMAN

[untold niche]

ROSETTA, SADLY NOT THA GREAT FOR END GAME

[lethal lagoon]

Rosetta does like 1/4th the DPS of other characters for no reason

I didn't try her after the buff though

[supple dock]

playing malice is weird

[lethal lagoon]

Is it queueing you with your level?

Cause if not, make sure you play during more normal hours to get the full smurf experience

[potent echo]

Also make sure to get manstopper if you haven't already

[supple dock]

whassat?

[potent echo]

Shotgun blessing

Tier2 only

Same as fletchette

[supple dock]

aaa

am using flamethrower for now

cause the blessings don't matter

it just eats trash

like a raccoon

[potent echo]

I mean for your account in general

You can't farm tier2 only blessings once you reach high level

[supple dock]

ooooh

I mean you still can

brunt's armory sells t1 t2 all the time

Also I had the same damage as the 2 level 30(+45)'s

they farmed the ending for a bit

[potent echo]

Malice gaming

[supple dock]

I wonder how many games I'm gonna get kicked out of for being a loner zealot

[paper lily]

those 2 30's are the 2 40 year old dad bros who get on to game at obscene hours of the am or pm after/before work

i've never been kicked as a loner zealot even when i was being belligerent with pushing

that bein said im for sure letting u die if play like a loner zealot with benediction

[vestal fulcrum]

but that's rude

[potent echo]

Dad bros

[paper lily]

it might be rude but he might also be spawning 50 specialists a minute for not taking loner...

[potent echo]

Nothing wrong with loner zealot if you never get downed or caught

[paper lily]

for the enormous perk of like 5% total tdr insane

[vestal fulcrum]

The game is so snoozefesty at times that splitting off and triggering specials is the only way to keep things interesting

[paper lily]

nah there's plenty of shite players on lately to keep it spicy for me

and i regularly put up double to triple dmg numbers

just wish dc/rc was penalized somehow

[potent echo]

Plasteel and totems aren't gonna find themselves

[supple dock]

LOL

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s not exactly the impression I’ve been getting from playing lately, but it’s fair

I mostly get good enough players

[paper lily]

tbf i did take a short week break due to illness/marvel rivals

my bar is kinda high too

[lethal lagoon]

Awwww

You need to play at a normal time you degenrate

[paper lily]

sick of seein that viewbotter on twitch every other day

[lethal lagoon]

Which one?

[paper lily]

professor something

[lethal lagoon]

I thought most of em have been put down

[paper lily]

they're not on rn but idk why they're pluggin dt for their botting streams

idk how u can make an emote only chat look viewbotted but they somehow managed

[potent echo]

Professor scaler? But that's the gtfo guy

[lethal lagoon]

Oh that's actually smart, if it's 24/7 emote only, it's harder to prove it's viewbotted because obviously people wouldn't chat.

[paper lily]

nah it was like professorxpop or something

nah the thing is, the viewbots actually chat... in emotes only

but they all chat the exact same way

[cinder moon]

profpoop

[paper lily]

[lethal lagoon]

The viewbotters are evolving

[paper lily]

wow really innovative viewbotting

[lethal lagoon]

😨

[potent echo]

I feel like some of the twitch streamers I watch viewbot

[paper lily]

many, many do

[potent echo]

It's so common..?

[paper lily]

the 15-20 viewer barrier is huge

[lethal lagoon]

Light viewbotting is definitely more common

[paper lily]

the thing they're missing is you have to offer something of interest to a community to actually garner viewership

[lethal lagoon]

The ones who don't even try to hide it are rare.

[cinder moon]

even if you get one random stream to pop a few thousand viewers, no guarantee you get literally any retention

[potent echo]

It's like one kekw will spawn 30 other kekws

[paper lily]

i keep getting requests to begin streaming again but i think streaming pve games is kinda silly for someone like me

[potent echo]

Like instantly

[paper lily]

well the funny part about botters is you can check followship over time

they'll have growing viewer numbers and shrinking follower numbers, which is really funny

[lethal lagoon]

Oh fuck me I wish I recorded that.

Joined an Auric t5, only me an a loner stealth zealot

Within 5 seconds of contact he goes off the edge and then rage quits.

I will never forgive Fatshark for making ASS an easy penance to get.

[paper lily]

#gaming

[supple dock]

LETS GOOOO

[paper lily]

knife goated ability idk why people talk down on it

u got flamer to cancel into as well so bonus pts

[supple dock]

yeee

That was my first long range knife throw

[lethal lagoon]

Because of what I literally just sad

I meant said, but sad works too honestly

[supple dock]

this?

[paper lily]

whats that gotta do with throwing knives tho lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Oh

[paper lily]

ez to confuse as kusu is also using knife but ye

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, you basically always take throwing knives with knife though

[paper lily]

eh, i think zealot is very fluid in terms of class choice

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, I even watched the clip, I should have guessed.

[paper lily]

in comparison to like psyker who for some reason can't bridge between auras blitzes and abilities

[lethal lagoon]

I mean with knife you kinda have to go down the knife tree, so you have to use a lot of points to pick something else

[paper lily]

i've seen it done more often than not

which is funny, because i think the other 2 trees are hot garbage

[supple dock]

This is my build so far

19 points to play with

I took stealth length because penance

[paper lily]

oh right you're new char

imo go 1 pt stealth and just rush invocation

[supple dock]

Hmm

[paper lily]

i think ur insane not going the tdr on crit with knife as well

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, half the point of stealth knife is tdr on crit

[supple dock]

oh

alright let's fix that

[paper lily]

that singular node is disgustingly op

[supple dock]

wtf is invocation

[paper lily]

bottom left near piety

the cdr node

[supple dock]

ooooh

[lethal lagoon]

It takes 20 points to reach there

I would take a point out of stealth for now then

And put in invoc

[paper lily]

it's kinda weak on knife, esp if u aren't using the mk6

but it's still really strong cuz on avg ur gonna crit more than not

[lethal lagoon]

TDR on crit or strealth?

[paper lily]

nah invocation

and this is in comparison

to evis or something

not in terms of raw power

it's probably the best node in the entire game

[lethal lagoon]

I don't understand what you are saying, invocation is TDR on crit.

[supple dock]

This is what I got for now

[paper lily]

huh? invocation is cdr on crit

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, you get basically instant stealth recovery with either knife?

Or do you mean the cleave on mk6 makes it even more dumb?

[paper lily]

no you get actual instant stealth recovery with evis

[lethal lagoon]

Ehh

[paper lily]

knives u have periods of vulnerability

[supple dock]

oooh because shred can crit multiple times?

[paper lily]

esp with the backswing bug

nah u just m1 preswing invis

u get 2 swings in invis, but in a horde you are likely to reset it on the first swing

https://i.imgur.com/rvnwMWO.png

here's my build fwiw

2 pts to do w/e with

[supple dock]

Saved!

[paper lily]

i don't recommend 2 pts for 10% more crit on piety, legit trashcan nodes

but yeah evis is simply the best weapon in zealot arsenal simply because of how stealth interacts with its swings

[supple dock]

I might mess with evis later but I'm kinda addicted to knife

[paper lily]

understandable

evis is just

there is no weakness

btw that pt in the middle, shield of contempt

[supple dock]

ooooh

that looks strong

[paper lily]

i can't remember if it's per proc or per person, but that point, especially when you are alone, is probably the highest source of dr you can get

but, if you stick to your team they can also benefit, meaning if you got a guy who just can't dodge to save his life u can just save his by proxy

[supple dock]

that's hilarious

[lethal lagoon]

Duelist no good on evis?

[paper lily]

duelist is never bad, but the point investment to reach it is nearly always too great

i do not value revenant at all

that bein said, i don't think evis gains much from duelist

[lethal lagoon]

If you get rid of shield of contempt, you can hit duelist and immunity at 1 hp

[paper lily]

i really just don't die enough to justify the pt cost

shield of contempt has 100% saved a psyker in the backline for me more times than i can count tho

like if revenant gave you some insane steroid for the duration and was a 1 min cooldown, i'd maybe consider it

[lethal lagoon]

Is that sprint ability super worth?

[paper lily]

it's okay

[lethal lagoon]

So you can trade that for duelist

[paper lily]

the 2 minor nodes aren't useless above there either, but it's 4 pts for what will likely amount to idk, 25% damage on hs/criths only

[lethal lagoon]

What do you put your 2 extra points in usually?

[paper lily]

depends on how i feel, the backstab cdr can be good if i feel like the director isn't sending hordes chunky enough

the top left dmg node is great for cleaving attacks, it's a flat 12.5% increase

[supple dock]

yeah I'm kinda torn between MS and 20% cooldown

[paper lily]

i don't use the attack speed nodes, don't need it

masters retribution is incredibly underrated

[vestal fulcrum]

Hm, how or why?

[paper lily]

good balance kinda hits hardcore diminishing returns with how much tdr that build i linked has

[rigid sky]

Dogn't

[supple dock]

wait isn't fury rising any good?

[paper lily]

as much as ppl might want u to believe no

[supple dock]

[paper lily]

the second u hit fury in a room ur just gonna be fury the entire room till elevator

masters retribution can remove a class of disabler that can be game ending

[supple dock]

oooh

good for mutants and dogs?

[paper lily]

don't think it works on mutants, but dogs yeah

i mean like the disabler alone can just end the game ig, so trappers and dogs are all you're probably gonna care about

[vestal fulcrum]

Does it even work against Trappers?

[paper lily]

nah it's cheeks against trappers

[urban sandal]

no

[supple dock]

But it seems like I had a pretty good idea with the skill choices huh?

That kinda makes me happy

[paper lily]

fwiw i think people probably won't rate my build

[supple dock]

keep in mind I've done like no research on it

[paper lily]

but i liked where u were going

[ornate hamlet]

When you hit a certain skill level, pretty much the only thing that will end your run are dogs and trappers.

Mitigating one of those things is excellent

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/lBboG0

Never stop dodging

[supple dock]

fair!

[paper lily]

the motion blur my eyes

[ornate hamlet]

Never stop never stopping.

[paper lily]

but people will similarly shit on masters retribution but put 2 extra pts into piety, on a knife build

it's likely your crit is already dipping into idk what, 60, 70% levels? you don't need 80

[rigid sky]

Consistency though man

If my knife is 1-shotting on crits only

[ornate hamlet]

To be fair: for most players, a dog jumping them is the least of their problems and the consistent crit will be better for them.

[vestal fulcrum]

Critting every 2nd attack is typically sufficient, no? (Assuming ~50% Crit rate)

[paper lily]

bro i run haymaker on my knife for consistency

[rigid sky]

I would definitely want to upgrade 10% crit chance

Look at it this way

[paper lily]

i consistently inconsistently one shot stacks of ragers

[rigid sky]

70% = 30% to whiff

80% is 20% to whiff

[paper lily]

yes yes 50% increase blah blah

it's not damage taken though

[rigid sky]

Gaining 10% crit chance reduces the risk of a whiff by 33%

[wind spruce]

my potato apologises 😦

[paper lily]

@wind spruce ngl the motion blur on a potato is probably making it run worse fwiw

[rigid sky]

I'd rather go from 90% to 100% crit than 0 to 10%

[paper lily]

i'm the opposite kind of person, especially in dt and extra especially with ranged weaponry

[wind spruce]

(tbh i dont even know what u mean, probably)

can i turn it off?

[paper lily]

i don't build breakpoints for crits either

[rigid sky]

Ranged is different

[paper lily]

yeah it's in video settings

[wind spruce]

i just play game, no know how pc works

[rigid sky]

Since it is crit streaks

[rigid sky]

I do with the knife

[wind spruce]

oh i see it

[rigid sky]

Because the crits are so powerful compared to normal hits

[paper lily]

if your entire build requires duelist be up for your entire playtime, you require a crit, i'd say your build is probably too niche

[wind spruce]

ty

[paper lily]

your game will look different

btw

if you actually run like dogshit, ir ecommend turning off ambient occlusion first

i couldn't stand mk3 knife, mk6 knife is barely on my radar as an acceptable weapon

[rigid sky]

I'm not saying you need to critmax

I'm just saying, don't shit on those of us who are doing that lol

Maybe we do know what we're trying to do

[paper lily]

i'm a minmaxer so, i want to just get maximum value at all times

this includes situations, 1 pt for 15% crit or 3 for 25 is an obviated choice for me

[rigid sky]

It isn't a single linear function

This isn't FFXIV

[paper lily]

never said it was

[supple dock]

Soso

[paper lily]

but when the answer to horde is 'lol run away' i'm not playing that build

[supple dock]

wtf is this discussion about

someone summarize it pls

[paper lily]

just talking about those 2 points of piety

about one shotting some specific enemy

tbh idk what it's even in reference to

2 points goes a long fuckin way on zealot tree

[supple dock]

Hmmm

[rigid sky]

Who says it is lol

[paper lily]

many knife zealots play this way

and anyone arguing its horde clear is good is just wrong

[supple dock]

I feel like shield of contempt might not fit with what I'm looking for

Cause zealot is SO forgiving already

[paper lily]

yeah it basically multiplies your hp by a fuckton

[supple dock]

Hmm

[paper lily]

since it only procs on hp damage

[supple dock]

I'll try with and without

aah

What could I get instead?

So I know what to test it against

[rigid sky]

I bring a Flamer for that lol

[paper lily]

uhhh

zealot has a lot of good choice

[rigid sky]

Knife vs horde is just to conserve ammo because it's still safe

And to regen ability CD

[supple dock]

okay, so basically just use my judgement?

[paper lily]

my build can kill anything no problem including horde w/ mk6 knife and i'm still not worried about one shotting stuff

i mean you said 'not fit what im looking for'

so what are you looking for

[rigid sky]

OK, well, good for you, glad you're having fun with your build too then

[paper lily]

i'm trying to elucidate people on value of utility over raw damage

if you want moar deeps go for it

but understanding good utility abilities usually brings more consistency overall

[rigid sky]

Yeah, people here underrate defenses and utility imo

[marble crater]

Just don't get hit, game is easy

[quartz barn]

Tbf this is the psyker channel

[supple dock]

Hmmmmm. DAMEG

[quartz barn]

Everyone here either plays glass cannon or ultra cc smite bot

[paper lily]

if ur using knife and want deeps just go duellist

[supple dock]

o7

[potent echo]

There's glass cannon

[paper lily]

i make up for the dmg by running haymaker, a few sweeping heavies into ragers or whatever and they'll all die

[potent echo]

And then there's kusucannon

[urban sandal]

I try not to be a glass cannon but still get half my hp taken away from 2 poxwalkers from behind

[grizzled iris]

Haymaker o.O

[paper lily]

also gives that knife actual acceptable horde clear since it's 6-7 walkers per swipe

i make it work

lemme see if i can find a game from before i got sick

[grizzled iris]

No need to bother

[potent echo]

Wait what really?

[paper lily]

per swipe proccing haymaker*

mk6 knife sweeping heavies

wow it's actually impossible to find a scoreboard where people didn't rq middle of games wtf

[grizzled iris]

If I remember correctly it only does damage on the first 3, the rest are just visual blood.

[potent echo]

Oh, idk dropping one of the damage blessings feel blegh

[paper lily]

it's been awhile since i tested, but i'm fairly sure you've not got to deal damage with it

like i said been sick

[rigid sky]

So regarding haymaker

is it chance per swing or per strike?

[paper lily]

def per swing

[grizzled iris]

Enemy hit

[paper lily]

i multikill ragers

[rigid sky]

so one swing activates the Haymaker kill, and then everything touched by that swing dies?

[paper lily]

ok now u guys are making me doubt my previous testing

gonna just redo it since it's been a bit

k yeah i think it's per strike

i must just be lucky

either way it massively increased my clear and for sure helped vs maulers

wonder how i was getting +7's on swings vs walkers tho

[plucky flax]

No. Only 1 thing per swing if it proc

Of course you can kill by the regular damage + the proc

[paper lily]

in practice it didn't feel this way

oh it uses prd as well so you're guaranteed to get a proc pretty quickly

[supple dock]

I am currently running..

lacerate and uncanny

[paper lily]

lacerate just don't make sense

[supple dock]

don't have crits

or didnt, rather

[paper lily]

on zealot with scourge and knife ur already like 50% baseline so

[supple dock]

Hmm

got it

will swap it

for what tho

[paper lily]

and u can guarantee the proc with ur ability

[upbeat wedge]

i've been told precog or flesh tearer

[paper lily]

ur never gonna struggle with bleeds on a knife with proper ability usage anyway, i'd prob go uncanny precog

or if you will deal with armor another way you kinda don't even need uncanny

[supple dock]

will use knife for armor

[rigid sky]

Lacerate rewards you for hitting non-weakspots

which is a joke on a weapon with such a high weakspot multiplier

[paper lily]

whoever popularized lacerate on knife just longest running cruel joke on dt community

i get sad every time i see it

[rigid sky]

I have gotten so many downvotes on reddit telling people to ditch lacerate because it's shit

[paper lily]

seriously lmao

[marble crater]

Use both, apply bleed whatever you do

[rigid sky]

If you must take a bleed, take flesh tearer

[paper lily]

i recently went through my reddit to look at old posts and was blown away by how right i was about some stuff in another game 6 years ago

[rigid sky]

because it's not like you're not critting

[paper lily]

massive downvotes

[rigid sky]

and definitely take uncanny with whichever bleed you take

uncanny + flesh tearer does more bleed damage than flesh tearer + lacerate

[paper lily]

nature of uncanny with bleeds

[plucky flax]

I like lacerate on zealot knife

[paper lily]

its ass sry bro

[marble crater]

On Vet I run Uncanny with Mercy killer together with the bleed on hit talent, it's fun

[rigid sky]

Yeah, that's legit

It's like the only purpose of that bleed on hit talent too lol

[paper lily]

those stacks will drop off so fast

gives you some nice combos ig

[rigid sky]

It's literally just to get mercy killer to proc

the bleed damage is irrelevant

[paper lily]

yeah i meant to proc it though :P

iirc it's just 1 stack

[rigid sky]

knives swing fast

[paper lily]

no doubt

[marble crater]

It works surprisingly well, not like I had a choice, Hadron forced my hand

[paper lily]

im not gonna shit on it but im ngl i get the same feeling about knife vets that i do w/ benediction knife zealots

[rigid sky]

It takes like 3s for the stack to decay right?

if it takes you more than 3 seconds to land a follow up strike

then you're using a thunderhammer

or an ogryn shovel

[paper lily]

eh you could just be in the shit

[plucky flax]

I only body shot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1188568138195931178/image.png?ex=66558b96&is=66543a16&hm=51b74189a8b87b9b951fe2422fc94bf5db5423f17f1668671226764ac1e96cd6&

[rigid sky]

if you're in the shit with a knife you're gonna die lol

[rigid sky]

you actively chose to put lacerate on that.

interesting.

vomits everywhere

[paper lily]

[plucky flax]

Yes I told you.

Lacerate good.

[rigid sky]

vomits even harder

[plucky flax]

[rigid sky]

blood starts coming up

[plucky flax]

D:

Don't die bro

[rigid sky]

it's too late, you killed me

by getting hadron to put lacerate onto your knife

im ded

[plucky flax]

I'm built different

[autumn moth]

i tried to get into gunpsyker and i only got myself into knifepsyker instead

[wind spruce]

The truth about gunker is that its really about the melee prowess

[wind spruce]

melee damage go brrrrr

[quartz barn]

I still run ds4 on gunker, but im more about the speed

[supple dock]

Hmm

is ruthless backstab any good

[rigid sky]

Worse than Uncanny

[supple dock]

damn

[paper lily]

kinda wild they both exist in the same scope and do not stack

does it even work for throwing knives, ruthless backstab that is

[marble crater]

Even if it does, how often do you throw knives in the back of something?

[paper lily]

idk to save a vet who jumps to dodge

[marble crater]

Blame Fatshark for that, it's the default

[supple dock]

this should last until 30

[marble crater]

[paper lily]

game really wants me to play vet

2 17% toughness curios in 2 resets

[grizzled iris]

On vet you go 1 hp 1 toughness 1 stam, psyker is 3 toughness

[paper lily]

i run 3x toughness on basically all my chars

don't see the pt in hp at all, esp with the way vet has a high toughness shield

[grizzled iris]

I run it on all except vet

[paper lily]

ur buffer becomes significantly larger the bigger you make your pool

[marble crater]

Psyker is also 1 stamina

[paper lily]

psyker is 1 stam if u run kd*

[marble crater]

which you should

[paper lily]

i don't run kd :P

[grizzled iris]

Give me a good reason for stamina on psyker

[supple dock]

I GOT THIS

[paper lily]

combined with kd it multiplies the block efficiency by magnitudes

rather than just an extra block or two

[supple dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1242647863603892295/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.05.21_-_20.07.39.09.DVR.mp4?ex=66548841&is=665336c1&hm=0ff40b2da5e74cfb6e869abf91c5cdb3fda36586ca7ad5dad2990e7c847b7e18&

[paper lily]

you literally block twice as many attacks with kd combined with a stam curio than if you didn't have it

[marble crater]

Also sprint longer for more mobility, which is always nice

[paper lily]

less beneficial on psyker since with proper slide movement you actually gain stamina

[marble crater]

Sure, but I don't always want to slide when I just run around to collect material

[paper lily]

personal choice, but yeah stamina is by far the least impactful for that purpose on psyker

[grizzled iris]

So, you think bringing 3x stam curios is the best course of action so you can spam dodge while blocking and push attacking a DH that shouldn't have been pulled to begin with? All I see is a clown in full make up

[paper lily]

no one said 3 stamina

pretty aggro response too for someone being just wrong

[grizzled iris]

The video did

[paper lily]

yeah that's just what he runs

you do not need 3 stamina to gain value from kd in the way i mentioned

[supple dock]

So aggressive!

[grizzled iris]

You don't need it to begin with that's the point

[supple dock]

It's normal to be afraid and need a bit more comfort

[paper lily]

you asked for a good reason to run stamina on psyker

i gave you a good reason

is that not enough?

[grizzled iris]

Kd is a good talent, but why build around it?

[paper lily]

it's one curio...

[marble crater]

You don't need anything

[paper lily]

it's literally a 100% efficiency multiplier to your kd node, which is a fantastic node as is

[supple dock]

I think the guy just wants to argue

[paper lily]

and this is coming from someone who runs neither

[supple dock]

Leave it be

He's convinced he knows better already

[paper lily]

no, it's not good to let people just

spew random misinformation about

[supple dock]

He's gonna do it anyways

[paper lily]

if he has an argument against that combo sure i'd go with it

the reason dt has so much misinformation is because people perpetuate bad ideas and don't question things

i used to be a lot more passive in discussion but eh, i'm happy to say something that i think might be factual and i'm quite happy to be proven wrong

[grizzled iris]

Yes it works well with kd, but why are you building around a talent that is a safety net for when you fcked up? Maybe put more effort into improving to the point where you don't need it to begin with.

It's a good talent, and if you need to put more power into it to make it better then that is a problem.

[paper lily]

building around is massive hyperbole with the advantage it confers

maybe you need to res a guy and you're being chased by 3 ragers?

[supple dock]

health and toughness is more of a safety net so I don't understand this logic

[paper lily]

they are all safety nets

[supple dock]

"maybe put more effort into improving" lmao

dude's entire argument is "git gud"

[paper lily]

his situation makes some sense but it also implies his teammates are infallable demigods for the emperor who don't heavy attack poxbursters in their face and need rescuing right the fuck now

now you might say 'lol just kill the ragers before ressing' yeah my bad he lost too much hp after he fell and i don't have that luxury

now what

[grizzled iris]

Or you could just stagger them, quell res.

[marble crater]

Yes, that's why I said you don't need anything. I have seen people run every possible curio combination and they are doing well with it. (Except that one ogryn that had 6 wounds, but we don't talk about that)

[vestal fulcrum]

Surely you should have taken that HP/Toughness curio

[paper lily]

stagger them with what? you're just implying the player has infinite resources to hand and always has the right tool in the right situation at all times

completely eschewing the concept of possible value you'd rather contrive a situation that bends to your perception rather than reality

kd node is good, a single stam curio paired with it makes it significantly better even

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s not feasible and low tempo. One could just tank the ragers with the stamina curio - you don’t have that luxury with any other option

[grizzled iris]

If you don't have the ability to stagger then just space, quell and res.

[paper lily]

i'm telling you what if this dude died 25m away through a fat ass horde and you have to hold that res key on him RIGHT NOW or he's gonna die + you've got said ragers

these situations absolutely happen

[grizzled iris]

If he is about to die right now then they are probably attacking him so just res.

[supple dock]

naw just don't be in that situation

literally that easy

[upper sun]

psyker and zealot are legit unplayble without at least +3 stamina

[paper lily]

bro what... you can die to anything in this game, a random bullet poxwalker whatever

i gave u a situation where u are guaranteed to get value from that combo

[supple dock]

nah just git gud bro

[paper lily]

u just wanna pretend like it will never happen/doesn't exist

[upper sun]

you cant res shit without stamina

[paper lily]

you asked for a good reason to add a singular stam curio to psyker and i gave u one

[grizzled iris]

It sure seems to happen for some people, not me for some reason. If it does happen to you then be my guest, do play with your stamina curios.

[marble crater]

Be Ogryn and res everyone

[radiant frigate]

kd is excellent because it can just about guarantee resses

[paper lily]

and this is coming from someone who does not play with kd or stamina

[radiant frigate]

• stam curio better

[paper lily]

great so you admit it's a personal thing, not a global one

[upper sun]

even on zealot i tried taking out my stamina curio and i started failing blocks and and revives

[paper lily]

guys stamina is viable on psyker i said it

kusu ur really bad 3 stam curio build is validated

[marble crater]

[paper lily]

can wash off that clown makeup now

[supple dock]

LOL

[grizzled iris]

Yes and I never said that your reasoning was wrong, all I said was that it was a solution to a problem that was self made.

[paper lily]

yeah man i made that guy eat shit in the back my bad

[supple dock]

just don't be in that situation

literally that easy

[radiant frigate]

sorry, my bad, i should have nuked the universe

[supple dock]

that's the argument I'm seeing

[grizzled iris]

Yes it is

[radiant frigate]

xd?

[grizzled iris]

It is that easy

[radiant frigate]

that feels like an xd

[upper sun]

ill just die while trying to vault

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah. Good luck with holding a sensible conversation with that attitude.

[radiant frigate]

going to die? just say no

[potent echo]

Ogryn and vaulting stuff

[marble crater]

Vaulting with ogryn really is a struggle, like, just step over it big man

[radiant frigate]

bullets cannot legally enter your body without your consent

[paper lily]

ahah

[supple dock]

literally just dodge better, protect all 3 of your allies from going down, CC the threat, and don't let them die in a weird position

🙂

[grizzled iris]

Yea, just bring that stamina curio, it will stop the bullets

[supple dock]

..i mean deflector?

[paper lily]

it will! there's a literal blessing for that!

ahahhah

[grizzled iris]

Weren't you using a knife? And deflector doesn't work while ressing. Try again

[paper lily]

yeah man strawman the video and not the argument

real indicative of the type of argument you want to actually have

[grizzled iris]

Ok, lets use a force sword with deflector. Will the stamina curio help you with the bullets in the latest scenario brought forward by someone else?

[paper lily]

it's certainly gonna help you block more bullets yeah

[grizzled iris]

While ressing?

[paper lily]

why wouldn't it?

[upper sun]

yeah i think it should

[supple dock]

oh, so in your argument you just have the means to create space, prevent allies from being downed, and being able to kill the enemies before rezzing....but you can't have deflector?

[upper sun]

kusu pls test

[grizzled iris]

Because deflector doesn't work while ressing.

[paper lily]

ok? still doesn't prevent the first statement made ages ago from being correct

[supple dock]

it doesnt work while rezzing

[radiant frigate]

deflector is a bait blessing imo

[paper lily]

i mean psyker should be killing the gunners yeah

[supple dock]

I don't think it's a bait, but I do think it's a noob trap

[upper sun]

whats the point of it then

[radiant frigate]

bait

[supple dock]

Pushing gunner lines

or escaping gunner lines

[upper sun]

does the block efficiency work and not the bullet blocking or what?

[radiant frigate]

block efficiency only works on bullet blocking so...

[upper sun]

what the fuck is the point then

[grizzled iris]

Deflector is another layered defense, used in niche situations that are avoidable. So yea a noob trap kinda

[paper lily]

point is use another blessing lmao

[radiant frigate]

slaughterer uncanny my beloved

[marble crater]

It is, because I ended up trying to block gunners with my DS4

[potent echo]

Deflector used to work while ressing, but it was nerfed

[radiant frigate]

are you a melee psyker or a caster psyker type of psyker

[upper sun]

cant have shit on atoma man

[grizzled iris]

I'm mainly a Trauma staff user

[radiant frigate]

so caster then

[grizzled iris]

Yea, depends on what I'm feeling that day

[upper sun]

we live in a place with brutal momentum thrust headtaker and uncanny but deflector shouldnt work while reviving because thats too OP

[grizzled iris]

What effect would brutal momentum have while ressing? xD

Multi ress!

FatShark patch it in

[supple dock]

pretty sure it's a separate thought..

[potent echo]

Res them as servo skulls

[grizzled iris]

Tech-priest class when

[upper sun]

reviving as headtaker just makes you take the bodies to Dr krall and sell them to him

[wind spruce]

Lmao, dude, you're yapping on about stamina being bad and you're using the weapon that LEAST needs stamina

[potent echo]

Yea nerfing assail for 0.1% of players was really strange too

[upper sun]

ill say it once more, cant have shit on atoma 😭😭😭

[potent echo]

They did buff void tho

We got void

[upper sun]

ikr

theres one playtester out there looking out for us

[grizzled iris]

I never said stamina is bad.

[potent echo]

Also buffed Deimos to fling everything on H2 for no reason and was never acknowledged

[wind spruce]

No, you're right, you've just argued in bad faith for half an hour for absolutely no reason

[upper sun]

Deimos H2 should stagger bosses

[supple dock]

"i never said stamina is bad"

[wind spruce]

Absolute clownery

[supple dock]

it's fine if you think stamina is bad

but at least stick to your convictions

instead of strawmanning us for 30 minutes lmao

[marble crater]

I think Kinetic Flayer is bad, there I said it

[wind spruce]

I love arguing about this

It's my favourite topic

[potent echo]

How dare you

[upper sun]

dodging and having better positioning is almost always better than blocking

[potent echo]

I'm going to argue how +15toughness actually gives a better dps increase over flayer

[paper lily]

just queued my first game, are all servers running this god awfully?

[potent echo]

And I'm going to prove it with SCOREBOARDS