so i can't remember well
#psyker-class
spice veldt
runic juniper
radiant frigate
supple dock
this is the issue I have with it
But having consistent high frames is more important to me for my gameflow
plucky flax
Yooo I am logging in for this 
spice veldt
gon
radiant frigate
gon
for my next trick, i will make the heretics disappear
you know, i am something of a magician myself
supple dock
plucky flax
Meh carapace.
strong gulch
When it's been awhile since you logged in and your build has unspent talent points.
I must have been mid meme and logged out.
supple dock
Charlie: The Wooer
supple dock
Meh carapace.
I unironically use carapace
lethal lagoon
carpace unyielding for my little EP
plucky flax
I don't think they are very threatening for surge!
supple dock
carapace crit% for surge
plucky flax
Can slowly wiggle them down.
supple dock
I don't think they are very threatening for surge!
Not about threatening, about just fucking killing them
strong gulch
Terrible barrage
supple dock
since smite/surge tends to have terrible ways to deal with carapace short of DS4 or Deimos
so carapace surge gives a nice safe option that isn't complete dogshit
rotund fable
Well, this knife seems to have some decent base-stats
Well... not sure if i should keep the thing or rip the level 4 blessing
plucky flax
I just right click crushers like 6 or 7 times with my surge. 
Oooh unyielding is good on knife.
And it has pretty high modifiers too.
spice veldt
the tragedy of who he is now
supple dock
Well... not sure if i should keep the thing or rip the level 4 blessing
Keep uncanny, keep unyielding
it's a fine knife
knives do much more damage vs bosses on crit
I typically use my knife like 80% for bosses
rotund fable
I have this now
it's original perk was stamina, and it's other blessing was the roulete
supple dock
zarona for carapace?
wind spruce
Got to be one of the lowest damage maelstroms ive seen
also columnus/duelling sword doesnt need assail
^evidence
plucky flax
You are just too good. Me noob me assail spam.
rotund fable
zarona for carapace?
I generally use carapace as a "until i figure out a better damage type" kind of thing with heavy-hitting weapons like the zarona.
at least on psyker
and it does let me kill crushers in 1 fewer shots when i have DD stacks and scryers up
plucky flax
I'm basic I like flak maniac for specials and elites.
marble crater
Flakiac
plucky flax
Me when I have flakiac on both weapons and all 3 curios. 
candid dawn
im personally a mlank enjoyer myself
untold niche
I'm basic I like flak maniac for specials and elites. <a:SadgeCry:92734652972597...
Need cara because region scared of fat metal guy
plucky flax
I run away from crushers.
untold niche
From wat
plucky flax
Less stress from your cpu.
umbral perch
sounds like a skill issue
plucky flax
Since gpu take more loads from higher texture.
untold niche
Why would cpu be less stressed
supple dock
I guess it "thinks" to use more power from the gpu which picks up some of the slack of cpu?
untold niche
I don't think that would happen.
CPU and GPU do different stuffs,if I'm not wrong, cpu and gpu usage is dictated by the game engine
supple dock
I mean CPU and GPU can be made to make bitcoin
GPU is better at it ofc
but CPU can still do it
From my understanding they can share some of the same function
some
strong gulch
@spice veldt YouTube keeps recommending shrimp music. So as Mr. Shrimple, you get to have it too.
https://youtu.be/GtRuQqqVLZE?si=ZBGT0Sq5x7Ds5UWG
https://youtu.be/u4ecB57jFhI?si=u8ZeMXMrx8udA54O
supple dock
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
what kind of derranged psychopath makes this
marble crater
strong gulch
My cursed recomendeds is now everyone's problem.
marble crater
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448> YouTube keeps recommending shrimp music. So as Mr. Shrimpl...
wh
plucky flax
Yeah that's faster than me
patent wing
machine gun goes brrr
brittle cargo
Psyker bros… I’m starting to think bubble shield is better than venting shriek
lethal lagoon
Make sure you also use EP smite with Bubble so that fat shark can see the metrics
200%? Rookie numbers, let's get 300%.
brittle cargo
I’ve been playing bubble shield with EP brainburst and my blaze trauma staff. Heretical of me but my winrate is up and scoreboard yellow
plucky flax
Make sure you also use EP smite with Bubble so that fat shark can see the metric...
That's so op
Literally unloseable.
marble crater
Make sure you also use EP smite with Bubble so that fat shark can see the metric...
Yes, Inquisitor? This one right here
marble crater
I don't think so
plucky flax
Nein.
marble crater
rocky yarrow
okay thx
marble crater
Illisi in a horde should work, or magdumping a columnus into a horde
untold niche
I don't know how mining works at a programmatic level so I won't comment.
What I do know is usually software dictates if it uses GPU or CPU
From what i understand miining uses GPU because its just alot of calculations, the calculations themselves aren't that complex.
Another amusing fact is that you would think ai uses CPU mostly but they wrote the library to utilise GPU
marble crater
Escape from Dreyko is where I got it, hung back and shot the enemies that followed us up the pipe
rocky yarrow
cheers
rigid sky
I’ve been playing bubble shield with EP brainburst and my blaze trauma staff. He...
Very solid build, has answers to everything
marble crater
Upgrade to what? Where is the comparison 
near wyvern
I don't know how mining works at a programmatic level so I won't comment.
What ...
It uses GPU because many of the calculations are independent and can be executed in parallel.
When it comes to computing, GPU is the king of parallel computation where you need to make many similar operations, that is making many similar kinds of operations on data that either has no relation to "nearby" data or can be made to separate with some clever logic.
CPUs are the king of handling dependent data, that is, you first need to do one calculation before you can do the next.
marble crater
Or did you ask if you should upgrade?
lethal lagoon
Literally unloseable.
Until EP smite can handle a boss it's not buffed enough.
300%? 1000%.
supple dock
200%? Rookie numbers, let's get 300%.
Aren't they actually buffing it?
supple dock
How are you playing with 67% finesse wtf?
It's mark 5 who's using it to actually kill anything
plucky flax
Me.
lethal lagoon
Aren't they actually buffing it?
Oh god I hope not
plucky flax
It can 2 shots mutie on my sword.
Justice for mk5.
Make all its heavy attack same damage as mk4.
marble crater
Sometimes I can one shot muties with the DS4 and it makes me feel really cool
hearty dagger
Fellas, what Headhunter Autogun goes well with DD?
lethal lagoon
IX I assume?
So I wasn't making a joke
I'm just an idiot
Uhh vraks usually.
I hate this game.
spice veldt
3 and 7 will be better
hearty dagger
I do kinda like the IX having less zoom than the Vraks ones
supple dock
I hate this game.
?
hearty dagger
Though it does kinda suck that it's 2 round burst
spice veldt
IX has the problem of having recoil + heavy stagger
spice veldt
which means that you will stagger gunners and they will crouch before the 2nd shot hits
and the recoil adds to this problem
supple dock
the naming convention confuses the fuck out of me
lethal lagoon
Vraks III is the one I like, finally.
lethal lagoon
<a:nyaaNod:683860866814574673>
hearty dagger
At least in testing Vraks III feels kinda eeeeeh
spice veldt
vraks 3 has good synergy with the Headhunter blessing, in case you're not running that
vraks 7 hits gunner BPs with opening salvo and DD stacks
though i haven't checked vraks 7 bps on psyker so i can't say much here
plucky flax
Sometimes I can one shot muties with the DS4 and it makes me feel really cool
You can with crit yes.
spice veldt
you can also probably do it with a non-crit weakspot with some keystone damage buff (warp charges or DD), with uncanny strike stacks up, and with peril for Warp Rider
hearty dagger
Headhunter/Deadly Accurate seems like a decent combo on Vraks III
hearty dagger
you can also probably do it with a non-crit weakspot with some keystone damage b...
Uncanny doesn't work on ranged anymore
Does it?
spice veldt
oh nah that was about a duelling sword mutant oneshot
hearty dagger
Oh
spice veldt
yeah headhunter/deadly accurate seems to be the way to go
supple dock
you can also probably do it with a non-crit weakspot with some keystone damage b...
this sounds like a lot of work as opposed to just holding M1 again
spice veldt
i was going to consider opening salvo but then i remembered that psyker is also the class with true aim
spice veldt
this sounds like a lot of work as opposed to just holding M1 again
it's something to consider if you happen to have some keystone stacks and uncanny strike up
supple dock
fair
spice veldt
where you can rely on having high peril for a one-shot
hearty dagger
Ngl i'm not really digging the Vraks III, though i don't have conditionals applied to it so maybe that's why
High zoom with high recoil just rubs me the wrong way
spice veldt
headhunters have an "interesting" property where they have lower recoil when you're moving
vraks 3's recoil also settles down after firing a few bursts continuously
lethal lagoon
I personally don't see the point of headhunter in a world where revolver exists, even though I enjoy using it on occasion.
spice veldt
if you don't like the high zoom, I personally use the ConstantFOV mod to deal with the zoom of guns
though you can't selectively choose which gun to reduce the fov zoom-in of
hearty dagger
I personally don't see the point of headhunter in a world where revolver exists,...
In theory, a headhunter should have better monstrosity damage than the revolver
Or well, just overall ease of use
Since missing doesn't hurt as much and they can still get some pretty good blessings as well
spice veldt
yeah and just having more damage per mag and faster reload per unit of ammo
they do have less damage to unyielding and maniac, but that's also offset by their good bases in general
hearty dagger
Plus easier shooter clearing
Since you don't need to throw out assail or reload every 5 shots when dealing with a big group of shooters
lethal lagoon
PC?
Or you mean mob shooter
Mob shooters are rough on revolver yeah
Especially when you pub, because literally no one kills mob shooters
rich jolt
Especially when you pub, because literally no one kills mob shooters
LITERALLY
supple dock
Especially when you pub, because literally no one kills mob shooters
ogryns following you around "GIMMIE OBJECTIVE"
rich jolt
I use zerona on my bb psyker (horrible idea ik) and im constantly having to do dances around shooter fire lines because my veteran and two zealots are busy with there elmers
lethal lagoon
I think the main reason so many psykers run bubble is because they keep dying to mob shooters they refuse to kill
lethal lagoon
I use zerona on my bb psyker (horrible idea ik) and im constantly having to do d...
I actually like pairing them because you get true aim from BB
rich jolt
Same
hearty dagger
Especially when you pub, because literally no one kills mob shooters
I've seen people literally try to run up to gunners when they have a fucking gun
rich jolt
Most of my crowd killing comes from my dueling sword
lethal lagoon
BB and revolver fill the same role, but EP and 2 shields have limits, and revolver has ammo
rich jolt
But ranged mobs mess up that build hard
lethal lagoon
They overlap but at the same time they can fill the holes.
plucky flax
Especially when you pub, because literally no one kills mob shooters
Yes it's funny when I'm top shooters kill on ogryn for some reason.
Like bruh what vet psyker or zealot doing
patent wing
I just wish there was a way to disable purgatus flame animations at all
plucky flax
Me fat me can't run to shooters.
lethal lagoon
When there's 3 snipers and the plasma vet is unloading into the mobs that are literally about to die from warpfire
plucky flax
The classic p gun Chad shooting at horde and ignore shooters.
lethal lagoon
I just wish there was a way to disable purgatus flame animations at all
I use the nurgle poo
rich jolt
Crusty ass emoji🤮
patent wing
<:drained:1202397567728623646>
they just killed the 18 shotgunners gang which i was EP brainbursting ....
hearty dagger
God, purg psykers piss me off so much recently
I swear to god pubpskyer players have had an IQ drop lately.
Guy just hits everything with the puff puff pass
lethal lagoon
Crusty ass emoji🤮
rich jolt
I swear to god pubpskyer players have had an IQ drop lately.
Its smite
hearty dagger
Leaving all the ragers as scorched as the poxwalkers, leading to me getting bonked while clearing poxers
plucky flax
Guy just hits everything with the puff puff pass
Wut
rich jolt
It's killing there braincells
lethal lagoon
Except I've never run into a psyker who knew how to use smite
lethal lagoon
plucky flax
It's burning
patent wing
I use the nurgle poo
how can u do that it literally blinds me
i use zealot flamer
lethal lagoon
how can u do that it literally blinds me
i use zealot flamer
It has no light?
Do you mean blocks your vision?
rich jolt
I think most smiters forget that they have a melee
lethal lagoon
I think most smiters forget that they have a melee<:KEKW_ogryn:10220771883229061...
Not me
hearty dagger
Most pskyers forget they have weapons other than staff or blitz
I saw someone fucking brain burst a regular ass poxwalker in melee range.
plucky flax
I saw top 1% psyker post his burgatus build recently. Very based
hearty dagger
Purgatus can definitely fuck
Shit will melt if used correctly
Which is why all the idiots applying burn and fucking off piss me off on a fundamental level
patent wing
Do you mean blocks your vision?
yeah
hearty dagger
It was even worse when we had the EP bug
You'd have people just smite and do nothing but smite
spice veldt
prob has bloom on
lethal lagoon
Yeah I turned off all that blinding shit
patent wing
can u take a screenshot
lethal lagoon
Aight, gimme a seco I'll take a clipo
hearty dagger
God, it's even worse when you're trying to snipe a gunner
And then a fucking purg staff guy tries burning him from out of range
My brother in the Empyrean, i cannot see KARKING SHIT
patent wing
My brother in the Empyrean, i cannot see KARKING SHIT
your fault for not using mod
hearty dagger
Mods are lame.
I suffer from stupidity instead so i can be a memorial for all the stupid ass pub players
plucky flax
Why melee when you can just smite
<:Evilge:1031085491195486238>
When the D is too gud
lethal lagoon
hearty dagger
Wacky ahh fuckin roll
patent wing
Aight, gimme a seco I'll take a clipo
ty
lethal lagoon
can u take a screenshot
hearty dagger
Yes, sir inquisitor, this one right here
lethal lagoon
Also if anyone tells me Purg isn't underpowered I'll fight them.
This is like twice as many ragers too.
spice veldt
surely not related to EP smite itself being strong
not waving purg around nor using venting shriek
very fair comparisons as well
there are reasons to not like purg, but there's no need to frame it
spice veldt
and not waving it around
you can wave it around at a certain speed and it will not be "spread thin"
hearty dagger
My sibling in the empyrean, YOU spawned the ragers
spice veldt
either way, it's an infinite cleave weapon and deserves to have that infinite cleave taken away
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
spice veldt
though in terms of balance, infinite cleave should not exist
not in a horde game where enemies can clump up and do clump up
supple dock
I think the main reason so many psykers run bubble is because they keep dying to...
factual
hearty dagger
I run bubble shield so i can pick up people who die to the gunners they don't kill.
lethal lagoon
very fair comparisons as well
Also when you are bored can you spawn 50 ragers and kill em with purg? I don't think I'll ever to able to do it up to standards.
rocky yarrow
got from mission
there MUST be something wrong
lethal lagoon
I just want a 50 rager benchmark for other reasons
Though I guess with PC it's just a bit silly
supple dock
Also if anyone tells me Purg isn't underpowered I'll fight them.
I don't think it's underpowered in terms of pure damage
I think it just lacks....utility
at all
cause like, constant source of fire? pretty rad
spice veldt
its utility is being an infinite cleave weapon
spice veldt
sure?
supple dock
sorry
spice veldt
why is that a point against purg
supple dock
because it performs the same role as a main weapon
spice veldt
they are also on different slots
supple dock
and does more
lethal lagoon
not waving purg around nor using venting shriek
Oh btw, I didn't get to 85%+ peril till the end anyways.
supple dock
purg isn't bad
spice veldt
that's also an argument for purg because that means you have more builds where you just take purg instead of smite
they're not competing
and that's an argument for it, not AGAINST it
supple dock
but i think it's just underwhelming
spice veldt
it's boring to use and not flashy, but that doesn't make it "underpowered"
the fact that it's deserving of a nerf makes it at least above average
supple dock
I don't think it's underpowered in terms of pure damage
^
spice veldt
i do not get the scale that you people are using in your heads when measuring weapons
it also has utility
have you ever used the LMB at all
supple dock
the short range stagger that gets outshined by smite? yeah
spice veldt
why are you going to back to smite
the fact that another strong weapon exists is not a god damn mark against it
for fuck's sake
supple dock
okay, the same staff that gets outshined by creeping flames?
lethal lagoon
Because a blitz outright invalidating a staff which is basically the psyker's "sub-class" is kinda problematic?
spice veldt
BUT IT DOESN'T GET OUTSHINED BY IT
spice veldt
Because a blitz outright invalidating a staff which is basically the psyker's "s...
IT IS PROBLEMATIC
BUT THAT'S NOT THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
if the topic was, "is smite problematic and blah blah blah"
THEN YES
but if the topic is "is purg underpowered"
supple dock
I'm just saying purg doesn't do as much as the other options that do similar things can
spice veldt
then the answer is of course the fuck not
spice veldt
I'm just saying purg doesn't do as much as the other options that do similar thi...
still deserves to be nerfed
lethal lagoon
Blitz don't outshine other staves though?
upper sun
cant have shit in atoma
spice veldt
you people have your scales absolutely knocked the fuck off
upper sun
nerf this nerf that yadda yadda yadda
spice veldt
it does deserve to be nerf though
i don't get how people are arguing against the fact that infinite cleave should be taken away
just give it high but finite cleave that can be balanced around
lethal lagoon
Is your argument you can't buff the purg without taking away infinite cleave?
spice veldt
instead of infinite cleave that can scale to the absurd density of this game
spice veldt
Is your argument you can't buff the purg without taking away infinite cleave?
what buffs
i'm talking about straight nerfs to it
lethal lagoon
upper sun
point blank barrage is far more deserving of a nerf than anything on psyker
spice veldt
i have not mentioned a buff ANYWHERE
rocky yarrow
you play purg for.. some reason, i play purg because im desperate for new content
spice veldt
point blank barrage is far more deserving of a nerf than anything on psyker
multiple things deserve nerfs
lethal lagoon
No I know you haven't, I'm just trying to understand the nerf
spice veldt
it's infinite cleave
lethal lagoon
When it's already the worst choice for staff.
spice veldt
is that explanation not good enough?
supple dock
When it's already the worst choice for staff.
Reduce the movement penalty by half and call it a day
spice veldt
the fact that it is the worst choice relatively does not make it a bad staff
it is at least above average and deserves to be knocked down
rocky yarrow
say what you will its better than the flamer
supple dock
absolutely is
spice veldt
burn is a better DoT at baseline and flamer is still an infinite cleave weapon
spice veldt
and you get to get up to the same degeneracy with the flamer even if zealot's typical melee options don't have uncanny
upper sun
so shit staff deserves a nerf because its strong in hypothetical scenarios where enemies keep coming at you from one side all melee no crushers and no ranged enemies?
spice veldt
so shit staff deserves a nerf because its strong in hypothetical scenarios where...
if only we had talents that dealt really well with ranged weapons even with purg
or if only purg had really stupid suppression
that can also suppress reapers
i legitimately do not get the complaint about being unable to deal with ranged enemies in a post-patch 13 era
i've heard this before patch 13 and I still heard it today
at least it was more justifiable in the past
but Mettle, Empathic Evasion, and Assail exist now
and more reliable toughness generation options and being able to take multiple of them
upper sun
you'd have more fun in VT2
spice veldt
no i would not
i've tried it and I did not enjoy it
seriously, ranged enemies have NOT been a problem for me when I run purg
and I can not see how they would unless you constantly get stuck in the awkward in-between with ranged enemies or do not run a good purg build
play aggressively, have good toughness gen options, and/or run empathic evasion/mettle
or run assail
candid dawn
ive been trying to get into VT2 when it was on sale a month ago
bro it feels like
my attacks dont have any impact at all
i dont know why
spice veldt
yeah i prefer the animations in this game much more
upper sun
just get more impact wtf
spice veldt
they add a good amount to the game feel
candid dawn
true
hearty dagger
Ngl i feel like soulblaze would feel better if we had something like scourge
candid dawn
like pretty much every one handed weapon ive tried in VT2 felt like complete ass
there wasnt any oomph into any of the attacks
hearty dagger
I.E, if hitting soulblaze, get X crit chance
spice veldt
purg's existence is why we don't have something like scourge
because you can apply degenerate amounts of soulblaze stacks
anything that interacts with soulblaze directly is just a free talent to pick at that point
lethal lagoon
Well I mean that's another problem.
rocky yarrow
bold to assume the skill trees will see any more attention then a yearly balance
lethal lagoon
Both PC and creeping flames have a lot of overlap and even counteract when you use purg
spice veldt
they're also problematic
which is why i've said to kill PC and though I've not spoken recently about creeping flames, I've made my stance that it should not exist either
not without some falloff
rigid sky
Well I'm glad you aren't on the balance team at least lol
lunar hollow
soulblaze has two competing ways of being distributed
lunar hollow
there's rewards for doing a thing and having it just be part of stuff you do constantly
upper sun
Yes 
lethal lagoon
spice veldt
it is a 30m conal application of soulblaze in a game where the maps are almost composed of corridors
of course it should be fucking taken down a notch
supple dock
yes, but purg is fine
spice veldt
no
supple dock
upper sun
everything about is psyker now is fine
supple dock
everything about is psyker now is fine
not me v.v
spice veldt
everything?
lethal lagoon
lunar hollow
blazing spirit has it as a reward for earning a crit but this is pointless unless the application area is gigantic because you have so many other ways of just shitting out soulblaze stacks
upper sun
*everything*?
Yes
spice veldt
and not one person has argued against my infinite cleave point
upper sun
from voidstrike to smite
spice veldt
people keep talking past my infinite cleave argument and I wonder why
upper sun
we dont care
languid lake
Hey, I'm running a Scrier's Gaze build, will I explode at 100% peril, or will it just end the ability???
supple dock
and not one person has argued against my infinite cleave point
because everything psyker does has a fuckton of cleave it's not special lmao
lethal lagoon
Because purg is already underpowered compared to other options?
lunar hollow
the problem i have with a lot of psyker stuff is that it is not also strong but it is also incredibly boring
spice veldt
because everything psyker does has a fuckton of cleave it's not special lmao
yeah and I've also stated that they should get knocked down
spice veldt
Because purg is already underpowered compared to other options?
the fact that it is underpowered in relation to the other options should not make it escape a nerf
spice veldt
i'm talking about purg specifically because it is the topic at hand
spice veldt
so if somethings already not good nerf it further?
but it is good
lunar hollow
so if somethings already not good nerf it further?
"in relation" is different than saying something, in a vacuum, is bad
spice veldt
just because it is the worse in relation to something does not make it bad
lunar hollow
the recon lasguns are bad in a vacuum
upper sun
"in relation" is different than saying something, in a vacuum, is bad
in a vacuum you'd suffocate
lethal lagoon
just because it is the worse *in relation* to something does not make it bad
Everything is relatively bad or good though?
spice veldt
like god, just give it finite but very high ceave
spice veldt
Everything is relatively bad or good though?
ok fine i'll be more specific
the fact that it is bad in relation to other staffs does not make it bad
i disagree with that statement anyways but let's run with the lowest common denominator for now
lethal lagoon
Bad =/= underpowered.
spice veldt
yes
that is my argument
that is my very argument that i am using to say that it is not underpowered and is in fact above-average and thus deserves a nerf
rocky yarrow
above average how
lunar hollow
you have to be careful when choosing a decent baseline point to evaulate weapons
upper sun
yeah we have 4 staves
lunar hollow
before patch 13 the meta was indisputably whatever had a bunch of +power bonuses slapped onto it
spice veldt
it's an infinite cleave weapon that spreads a "good enough" DoT that also happens to be able to benefit from a good amount of buffs
upper sun
no way its better than void or trauma
lunar hollow
so force swords, bull butcher, power sword, hsword, autopistol/bolter
upper sun
that makes it below average
spice veldt
i'm not going to say what's better than what
but my argument is that it's not strictly worse than either of them
rocky yarrow
so its "good enough" but "above average" and nerfworthy
spice veldt
so its "good enough" but "above average" and nerfworthy
I'm saying that the DoT itself is "good enough"
not the staff itself
lunar hollow
"average" probably isn't how i would phrase it, because there's so many options right now that are far above a reasonable power baseline for a weapon
rocky yarrow
i phrased that wrong
spice veldt
but the fact that it also spreads this "good enough" DoT is worthy of looking at
lunar hollow
voidstrike and trauma are both absurdly strong, you should not use them as the measuring stick for other weapons
spice veldt
voidstrike and trauma are both absurdly strong, you should not use them as the m...
:)
really makes you think when people keep using that as a baseline to compare against
lunar hollow
it's the same reason why pinning fire bolter and autopistol were NOT the baseline they used to rebalance weapons in patch 13-14
lyric burrow
yeah id say calling trauma and void average would def be an understatement
as a matter of fact, void and trauma design wise are what we should try as hard as possible to not have
upper sun
um actually bolter is very underpowered right now its unusable
lunar hollow
because those weapons were very low effort for incredibly strong reward
lunar hollow
um actually bolter is very underpowered right now its unusable
90% of its issues are not numbers, its ergonomics
spice veldt
um actually bolter is very underpowered right now its unusable
i wonder what his statement is implying
lyric burrow
bolter is fine powerwise it just
spice veldt
maybe it's implying that he's talking about pre-patch 13 bolter/autopistol
lyric burrow
doesnt function like a gun
upper sun
i wonder what his statement is implying
a joke
lunar hollow
it's in a relatively sane placement now after pinning fire was nerfed to 1/4th effectiveness
lyric burrow
+not ammo even or positive
lunar hollow
smite is overpowered but it also genuinely is not fun for a lot of people to play with
any cc-focused weapon like the crusher is completely invalidated by another class's blitz
this isn't acceptable
spice veldt
can't pass things off as a joke when this is not the first obtuse thing you've said
lyric burrow
yeah smites design is p abysmal
lunar hollow
i just leave lobbies with smite psykers if im playing certain weapons because they literally take the fun out of the game for me
lyric burrow
i mean i think it removes the fun period
spice veldt
yeah smites design is p abysmal
i love my infinite cleave stagger weapon that turns off enemies
what a nice design that should be kept
lyric burrow
i do not need to partake in the gameplay part
spice veldt
well not infinite cleave
lunar hollow
but it's disproportionately effecting anything that relies on enemies doing a certain thing
lyric burrow
its close enough
spice veldt
but it scales enough to a stupid amount and they also decided to buff its damage
lunar hollow
on-dodge mechanics, parries, feeling like you're doing something useful by staggering enemies is all invalidated because some dude on his 4th bowl of the night is just holding down the blitz key
spice veldt
and people who argue against weapon nerfs always think about the user and not the other people in the lobby
upper sun
Bubble Ep smiters
bubble anything psykers
lunar hollow
bubble psykers are fuckin hilarious
lyric burrow
surely he also isnt totally useless when not using smite
lunar hollow
i love when they drop it on 3 shooters
spice veldt
wow i'm glad to have a weapon that completely and totally invalidate entire enemy types
lunar hollow
you're HELPING brother
lethal lagoon
bubble anything psykers <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Bubble psykers are kinda cute though
upper sun
Bubble psykers are kinda cute though
lethal lagoon
With their itty bitty damage and safe little bubble
lunar hollow
and people who argue against weapon nerfs always think about the user and not th...
it's very sad to want to have fun and then an ogryn with half a functioning brain and a kickback joins ur lobby
upper sun
I think you should go play overwatch
lyric burrow
i remember when josho just followed me around smiting everything and its like damn i did not play the game despite doing all the killing
spice veldt
it's very sad to want to have fun and then an ogryn with half a functioning brai...
so sad that josho has to see this very ogryn in the mirror every time he goes to the bathroom
lyric burrow
ok he does not pick kickback tbf
rocky yarrow
For The Emperor just let people use what they want
lyric burrow
however he does pick glugger so like
lyric burrow
its not that different
spice veldt
however he does pick glugger so like
PBB ACHLYS BRRRRRRRRR
upper sun
team comp with two zealots and two hit n run terrifying barrage psykers where the psykers just suppress everything for the zealots
lunar hollow
For The Emperor just let people use what they want
no
spice veldt
we run other degenerate stuff at least
lunar hollow
which is why i leave the lobby if i dont feel like dealing with it
spice veldt
For The Emperor just let people use what they want
weapons just shouldn't completely invalidate entire enemy types
lunar hollow
there's a bunch of stuff that completely removes the threat from the game so im just not going to deal with it if the guy using it has any skill whatsoever
spice veldt
or turn them off
rocky yarrow
weapons just shouldn't completely invalidate entire enemy types
explain
spice veldt
because i like the gameplay of this game and would like to keep it interactive
upper sun
just nerf everything i dont play
lethal lagoon
Nerf everything I do play 
spice veldt
explain
Thammers annihilating bosses, flamethrowers annihilating hordes and other enemies
lyric burrow
i play the stuff i want nerfed, in order to not id need to run no talents taxe 4 recon
unironically
spice veldt
and also, we are just in an era of very high player power level
spice veldt
because keep in mind that auric hishock damn5 is not the "average" standard to be balancing around
it is right at the top end of difficulty
rocky yarrow
Thammers annihilating bosses, flamethrowers annihilating hordes and other enemie...
okay but weapons need to have a purpose, thammer - single target, flamer - horde
lethal lagoon
EP smite and flaming shriek telling the game director "No" when he wants to step things up.
rocky yarrow
you can have counter play
lyric burrow
they can have a purpose
spice veldt
okay but weapons need to have a purpose, thammer - single target, flamer - horde
yes, and it doesn't have to have as much unyielding damage it does
rocky yarrow
it just needs to be balanced
lyric burrow
and not invalidate the enemy or encounte r
rocky yarrow
i admit it isnt
spice veldt
for fuck's sake
lunar hollow
okay but weapons need to have a purpose, thammer - single target, flamer - horde
the problem is when the weapon is so good at the niche it completely destroys anyone else's ability to engage with certain target types
spice veldt
why are you people taking my statements to their literal extremes
rocky yarrow
but also its hilarious if the plogryn dies in one shot
lunar hollow
and also a lot of weapons get powercrept by the skill tree/blessings that the niche is more than 50% of the available targets in a game
upper sun
and also, we are just in an era of very high player power level
that was intonational the weapons we use are all only 80% as strong as they were designed, whenever you think a weapon needs a nerf keep in mind the devs designed it it to be stronger than than
lethal lagoon
but also its hilarious if the plogryn dies in one shot
It's hilarious once or twice, especially when you are the one doing it.
upper sun
talent tree came because red weapons didnt
spice veldt
that was intonational the weapons we use are all only 80% as strong as they were...
this is an argument in my favor though isn't it
lunar hollow
talent tree came because red weapons didnt
this is not true at all
rocky yarrow
It's hilarious once or twice, especially when you are the one doing it.
exactly why i let people use w/e they want
lunar hollow
the talent trees were a system they had initially planned but could not finish because of time crunch
there was work put into it before the game launched
lethal lagoon
exactly why i let people use w/e they want
Literally everyone let's people use w/e they want?
upper sun
well they still wanted both
lunar hollow
there was leftover subclass stuff datamined at launch, it had nothing to do with red weapons
lyric burrow
the only people i give shit for running stuff is my friends
lunar hollow
there is no indication of red weapons coming besides the stat bars being awkward
upper sun
this is an argument in my favor though isn't it
how so?
upper sun
there is no indication of red weapons coming besides the stat bars being awkward
thats good enough for me i'm a very big conspiracy theorist
spice veldt
that in itself is a reason to reign them in
if it was that they were supposed to be weaker than they already are, then that's in your favor
but it's the opposite of such a scenario
lethal lagoon
exactly why i let people use w/e they want
And keep in mind it's funny because 95% of the time it's not funny. You can't listen the same joke over and over again.
It's like turning on cheats in a game. It get's boring fast even if it's really fun at first.
Hence you need balance.
spice veldt
and other players existing in your game
if they run certain weapons, you're not going to be doing any gameplay with certain enemies or at all
rocky yarrow
this entire argument would be solved if FS didnt go to get the milk
lyric burrow
like how often do you fight a horde if there is a purge user
upper sun
this is darktide end game right now
we just keep bitching and arguing until the next balance update
lyric burrow
i mean i enjoy talking about balance
lethal lagoon
Talking about balance is fun until everyone talks about the build you enjoy as being no skill
rocky yarrow
yeah im gonna go actually enjoy myself on ogryn now
lunar hollow
the solution is to diversify ur investments
if u play everything u always win in balance patches
wind spruce
if u play everything u always win in balance patches
No you always lose
upper sun
I only play hammer/crusher and trauma/void/surge
wind spruce
lunar hollow
No you always lose
wind spruce
Ive never done ranged only maelstrom before... this is gonna be shit isn't it
lunar hollow
it's boring
lyric burrow
i did it once forever ago
lunar hollow
sometimes u get a hallway of 8 reapers
lyric burrow
not much happened
lunar hollow
which is kinda funny
upper sun
sometimes u get a hallway of 8 reapers
in an all zealot game
lunar hollow
u just take twbs and w key at them
lyric burrow
F plus most guns will also kill them anyway
upper sun
no i take hammer and chastise and kill 2 at a time
then die and wait for a stealth revive
lyric burrow
reapers are much less scary when they cant push you into a wall and auto kill you
one reaper around a corner as not zealot is truly the scariest thing
spice veldt
reapers are scary when i significantly overestimate my ability to fight three of them as a psword vet in melee
lyric burrow
oh right your on vraks now
spice veldt
and i would never be a coward and use a gun in a sword vs gun fight
lyric burrow
i accept vraks
although you take shout so you sit at -28939834 respect points for me
however vraks brought you up but 20000
spice veldt
wow, such a high evaluation of me
spice veldt
you belong 100000 feet below the dirt 😇
spice veldt
anything to put you into your place
lyric burrow
anything to put you into your place
empty threats
you know my place is being your enemy
spice veldt
rawr xd
lyric burrow
how can i be your enemy if i am 100000 feet in the earth
ok we went over what rawr xd meant the other and you use it again
starting to wonder if its on purpose
upper sun
is this foreplay im seeing?
lyric burrow
arcos not sophisticated enough for that
spice veldt
this is beyond
upper sun
how do people do ogryn penances
rigid sky
how do people do ogryn penances
Gradually.
marble crater
You make a gunlugger build and just play that as well
upper sun
I will keep cheesing nuke until i get it
marble crater
Ogryn penances are pretty straightforward, even if they require throwing some nukes into hordes or magdumping into a horde
marble crater
Play maelstrom with enhanced blitz, that should help
supple dock
I DO NOT WANT TO NUKE HOARDS
skip, do mission penances
upper sun
my teams refuse to move forward quickly
patent steeple
my teams refuse to move forward quickly
my teams in gas missions sometimes reufse to move forward quickly, but sometimes they instead fight hordes in the gas and die...
marble crater
My team in Aegis Station
wind spruce
well that kinda fun but also wouldnt run it back lol
https://outplayed.tv/media/XGvjzQ
supple dock
well that kinda fun but also wouldnt run it back lol
https://outplayed.tv/media/...
What don't you love your entire active kit being a temporary shift in playstyle???
wind spruce
You act like this isn't how I play every mission
wind spruce
Hahaha I do
supple dock
this is actually kinda ok
melk sword
like finesse isn't the end all be all for illisi anyways
i feel like damage and first target is more important
marble crater
Sounds like copium
patent wing
finesse is attack speed too
patent wing
rate my illisi
hearty dagger
Not bad
upper sun
pretty good
hearty dagger
Personally i would have gone for crit for the perks but still a solid illisi
patent wing
Personally i would have gone for crit for the perks but still a solid illisi
dockets are my problem x)
upper sun
play more auric
patent wing
i solemnly play auric but currently not that much and if i play mostly solo which results in me dying after 15-30 min
also getting a good weapon is like 300-1000k dockets
then hadron bricks it
upper sun
idk if your standards are low enough 600k should be enough
wind spruce
It can take millions if you're looking for four specific perks/blessings
spice veldt
i'm personally at a stage where i don't want to run anything "suboptimal" since my logic is, "why would i run something that could be better when I already do have something that is better"
but i am somebody who is in the mindset of always running meta
candid dawn
bro what is up with randoms and killing everything in the room first before trying to free someone that got netted
like bro it takes like a minisecond to free someone 😭
spice veldt
maybe they think that you really just enjoy the dirt
upper sun
maybe theyre letting you think about what youve done
wind spruce
Projecting bandage kink?
hearty dagger
bro what is up with randoms and killing everything in the room first before tryi...
Unless you're paying attention/check the hud
The indicator for downed teammate is the same as netted teammate
Ngl they should change that since at a glance it can be kinda hard to tell
Then again, it's pubs.
candid dawn
true but you also hear the loudest noise ever when a trapper shoots and suddenly one of your teammates gets trapped
hearty dagger
I've seen a zealot run past another zealot who was just netted with nothing on him
hearty dagger
true but you also hear the loudest noise ever when a trapper shoots and suddenly...
You assume pubs pay attention
candid dawn
like that has to be enough context clues to know that they got netted right
spice veldt
maybe they also enjoy the dirt and think that others should know the joy of it
candid dawn
dirt eaters
upper sun
Projecting bandage kink?
bandage kink huh
candid dawn
is there a mod that sets up kill counts on your weapons
supple dock
is there a mod that sets up kill counts on your weapons
isn't there a gun in borderlands that does that
guns
I know there's skins in counterstrike that does that
upper sun
nice try but your weak psyker arms cant hold that
patent wing
what was the lmb build again? trauma with running?
upper sun
headtaker is good
plucky flax
Yeah I guess. Thunderous to bm and weak spot to flak.
upper sun
15 maniac you can live with
plucky flax
I think you might not be able to 2 shots mutie headshot with 15% maniac.
But should be able to 1 shot flamer still at high peril.
supple dock
plucky flax
Although I don't like axe on psyker. Too slow.
supple dock
I bought it just in case
plucky flax
Need fast boi zealot to get fulfil its potential.
supple dock
yeee
upper sun
Need fast boi zealot to get fulfil its potential.
what was feel no pain like before the nerf
it feels fine now
upper sun
damn
languid lake
Hey, can I ask for help?
upper sun
no
plucky flax
Me fat me run straight at gun fire
upper sun
need to do monster penance?
languid lake
Why do I not explode sometimes with Scrier's Gaze, and sometimes I do???
upper sun
the peril you see isnt exactly the real peril in game
languid lake
I'm so confused if it actually explodes or not
upper sun
get true peril mod
languid lake
Wait so generally speaking should u be exploding with Gaze?
spice veldt
are you doing some action that triggers you blowing up when you're at 100% peril?
nah
it just sends you to 100% without you blowing up
upper sun
not unless you wanna play marty psyker
spice veldt
you only blow up if you do an action like finishing a staff/blitz cast, activating your force sword, etc
spice veldt
yeah hitting 100% peril is itself not a sufficient self-destruct condition
you kind of have to figure this out by bumper but yeah
languid lake
Aight
I used to only use Psyker weapons with the Gaze cuz I thought I'd explode if I don't quell
spice veldt
panik when you see it accelerating over time
rigid sky
Gaze is mostly for guns
languid lake
This makes it a lot easier then
rigid sky
Much safer that way
hearty dagger
Ngl scrier's did get a bit robbed
Imagine if it worked like Vet and if you managed to get enough CDR you can just pop Scrier's again to reset the peril build speed
plucky flax
You see the power of old fnp clad?
languid lake
Yeah Gaze is fun, reminds me of like, Unchained Sienna or Pre Patch Sister of Thorn Kerillian in V2
hearty dagger
You see the power of old fnp clad?
fnp?
rigid sky
Feel no pain
hearty dagger
Yeah Gaze is fun, reminds me of like, Unchained Sienna or Pre Patch Sister of Th...
Significantly less FF than SoT ker though lmao
plucky flax
Ogryn keystone feel no pain the tanky one
rigid sky
Igryn key
hearty dagger
a
plucky flax
My favourite keystone for oggy
languid lake
Significantly less FF than SoT ker though lmao
Truth
hearty dagger
God
Kerillian mains pissed me off so much
"Oh yeah i'm gonna run the infinite ammo AoE bow"
plucky flax
Enable ff and let me play blaze trauma
languid lake
What u don't like being Impaled by a Giant Briar spike cuz u were frontlining?
hearty dagger
Died to a friend of mine who i got into the game on CW because of that
Was running Zealot
There's like a single rat man just standing there
I go to beat him up to get some white hp back
And promptly catch an arrow to the back of my skull
tight plank
"Oh yeah i'm gonna run the infinite ammo AoE bow"
They better not run into whatever im shooting at
languid lake
Oh the Moonfire Bow?
tight plank
They’ll learn… eventually
hearty dagger
Oh the Moonfire Bow?
Moonfire bow.
hearty dagger
They better not run into whatever im shooting at
Unfortunately for you, War Funding!
languid lake
Darktide is pretty chill with FF
tight plank
Except I used hagbane, never tried pre nerf moonfire
languid lake
Pyromaniac builds are actually fun now as an old Sienna main
tight plank
Hagbane best bow, anyone claiming otherwise is just bad
languid lake
Yeah haha
plucky flax
Blaze trauma is better but it's impossible to build.
languid lake
I miss my insane 99% Charge Unchained though
Insane speed, insane damage after setting everything on fire
upper sun
You see the power of old fnp clad?
ye
but i feel like my heavies do good damage without heavy hitter
and i only really get to full stacks with heavy hitter if im clearing or some shit so maybe i should switch
formal harness
Woo blaze trauma ftw
Go solo maelstroms after you get a good staff, turns the game into easy mode
upper sun
Go solo maelstroms after you get a good staff, turns the game into easy mode
scab melee is so easy with it
formal harness
When everything kills itself
candid dawn
wait
formal harness
I love having purgatus + blaze trauma on the team tho. Burn stacks ftw
candid dawn
do you not need to do auric damnations for the 10 flawless aurics title
supple dock
@lethal lagoon my USB came in
rigid sky
Cook some burga
Bob's Purgers
plucky flax
<@1001693431300636764> my USB came in <:KEKW:619986909938057226>
Wtf so fast. You ordered 6 hours ago
supple dock
😄
upper sun
why is the pilot giving me missions
why is the "doctor" giving me missions
why is the fish tank woman giving me missions
why are the nun and the ship owner randomly talking shit on the vox in the middle of battle
i miss the days of only zola rannick and morrow
wanton yacht
As long as I don't hear Zola's voice, I'm ballin.
untold niche
why is the pilot giving me missions
why is the "doctor" giving me missions
why...
New update?
upper sun
nah
untold niche
As long as I don't hear Zola's voice, I'm ballin.
Personally I hate hadron pre mission
untold niche
Oh.
upper sun
and yeah i cant stand hadron either
try not to blow things up varlets :3333333
fuck off bitch you're the decrepate toaster with no weapons no skills etc
lone ravine
fuck off bitch you're the decrepate toaster with no weapons no skills etc
“No skills” is exactly the reason why she bricks every good thing we have
untold niche
It's not even :3333
It's more like >>:(
If it was :3333 UwU cutesy like I think I can tolerate
upper sun
“No skills” is exactly the reason why she bricks every good thing we have
imagine being such a failed tech priest that you need an ogryn to teach you how to bless weapons
@broken lagoon YOU SUCK
supple dock
i love hadron she's great
formal hill
Imo Hadron isn't a very good representation of a tech priest so it makes me dislike her more, our Enginseer is much better
supple dock
Imo Hadron isn't a very good representation of a tech priest so it makes me disl...
A ship full of rejects has an odd tech priest? Huh. Fancy that.
I like to think she was too... Willful for other ships
formal hill
A ship full of rejects has an odd tech priest? Huh. Fancy that.
It's not about an odd tech priest, they tried to make her some kind of quirky hehe character it seems. Tech priests devote their lives to logic. Yet she constantly talks about her feelings
marble crater
I can fix her
formal hill
It's just that she's not an accurate tech priest
viral inlet
rotund fable
It's just that she's not an accurate tech priest
There are examples in lore of tech-priest being more emotional than the standard tech-priest. Most seem to work under inquisitors (like hadron), rogue traders, or Astartes chapters.
I personally headcannon that kind of stuff as "the tech priest is a either pariah working under these parties to avoid scrutiny from their compatriots, or the ones they work with have extremely strong personalities that rub off on them"
junior dirge
if you had to pick, kinetic resonance or kinetic flayer for brain burst?
supple dock
kr
junior dirge
cinder moon
only pick kinetic flayer on purg builds
marble crater
Only pick it never
formal hill
if you had to pick, kinetic resonance or kinetic flayer for brain burst?
Are you doing a penance or do you just like the kinetic skill?
urban sandal
if you had to pick, kinetic resonance or kinetic flayer for brain burst?
resonance for sure
flayer usually gets wasted on poxwalkers/groaners
sure it's nice on ogryns and bosses every now and then but you just have to think if it's worth the talent point that can go elsewhere
formal hill
As a man who knows nothing about psyker, I use empowered psyonics
urban sandal
double kinetic resonance (shield wall), EP and blue stim turn BB into a rapid fire weapon
just don't blow yourself up
formal hill
Oh is that what it is
I only use the the shield wall, not a fan of the bubble
I used to be a bubble enjoyer but tbh, the shield wall is alot better imo
junior dirge
Are you doing a penance or do you just like the kinetic skill?
just curious, i use bb a lot so figured i should pick one of the upgrades
formal hill
I personally use whichever one applies warp burn
urban sandal
I use bb exclusively and ended up getting rid of flayer for some more toughness since it just wasn't worth imo
formal hill
Unless they don't
urban sandal
none of them apply burn unless you have the talent that makes elites/specialists apply it to surrounding enemies on death
formal hill
Shows you how much I play Psyker lmao
true lake
burn build you basically have to specifically build towards
usually more on the left side of the tree for the shout ability
vagrant onyx
as promised my vet revolver
formal hill
Burning enemies makes me feel big pp so
vagrant onyx
untouched
plucky flax
It's just that she's not an accurate tech priest
What's an accurate tech priest?
vagrant onyx
it HAD to be a bolt pistol
true lake
probably yeah
vagrant onyx
id fucking COOM if it did
formal hill
What's an accurate tech priest?
Imo, rogue trader did them really really well. Only traitor tech priests really gave into emotion, otherwise it's calculated adherence to protocol
plucky flax
Oh yeah.
Hadron is way too emotive.
The other tech priest seems more chill? Kaylex or something.
ornate hamlet
real and true
formal hill
Hadron is way too emotive.
Based brit
Unfortunately you're not female or I'd marry you for the green card
plucky flax
Green card? That's american.
Unless you're american and want togive me a green card?
formal hill
Unless you're american and want togive me a green card? <:whatthefuck_heresy:104...
Yes
plucky flax
What state are you from?
formal hill
LMAO
Pennsylvania, arranged marriages in discord be like
However tbh, I actually plan on moving to Florida or Texas
plucky flax
Okay when you move to florida or texas hit me up.
I don't want to live in Pennsylvania.
formal hill
Pennsylvania is actually very beautiful, great smoky mountains and all that
formal hill
Blue collar isn't very low income here
West Virginia is a poor state, but you can work in oilfields in PA and make up to 300k a year
And the cost of living is quite low too, in my town actually, you can buy a house for about 40k usd
plucky flax
Wtf that's super cheap.
A tiny british home here is at least 150-200k.
(No garage, no drive)
formal hill
Want to know what's funny?
I live in an old Oil Boom town, so the houses here are like 5 stories
And they're very cheap
formal hill
Generally yes, I mean you can get them cheaper if you want to work on it
Generally they just need a new coat of paint inside and out
It's always interesting to me to see Europeans learn about America that isn't in Orange Valley or New York City
plucky flax
I know a tiny bit since I actually enjoy american culture.
And western stuff. Horses, big open field, native american, yellowstone wilderness.
Big ol' bisons.
formal hill
And western stuff. Horses, big open field, native american, yellowstone wilderne...
Do my eyes deceive me? A brit saying we have culture?
rigid sky
not that many years of it mind
true lake
I always wanted to have a modest house off in a lightly wooded area with moss lawn
formal hill
not that many years of it mind
Not that many years a but alot has happened very quickly and it was recently enough to still see effects, I actually find it profoundly interesting
rigid sky
That said I'm currently in Italy which is technically a lot younger than the USA too
formal hill
You can find interviews of 100 year old men on YouTube from the 1930's about them and their family's settling out west for the first time
Also my great grandfather was born in 1880
(Im 25)
plucky flax
I am not real brit. I am imported.
Although I've been here for longer than my born country.
formal hill
Where you from then
thorn cedar
asia isnt a country
plucky flax
Asia here is referred to as indian/pakistan/bangladesh. So I'm east asian.
thorn cedar
asia is a food type
formal hill
I will say, I'm the only American that can do a full pull up
true lake
I'm not good at pull ups but I can flexed arm hang for a long while
plucky flax
formal hill
I weigh 300 stone and can do 20 pull-ups
true lake
what size stones are we talking
true lake
kilograms also work for simplicity sake
formal hill
No Americans Don't use stone
true lake
I just find it funny when other countries are like "america really needs to just use metric instead of their archaic and confusing system" then proceed to use some measurement named stone or whatever else
formal hill
I'm just worldly
thorn cedar
imperial really is complete nonsense tho
formal hill
Imperial was made by the British
true lake
it starts to make sense if you look into it more but metric is usually more efficient
just depends on what you are measuring
plucky flax
Imperial is good when it's road measure distance.
I prefer miles to km.
But litre over gallon.
formal hill
There's no way to make America metric, America is too big tbh, not worth the investment when miles works fine
true lake
it's also just a how you were raised thing
obviously you understand metric more when you are taught that as you grow up
formal hill
We're taught both here depending on the school system
bold cape
as an american, imperial is garbage, metric is a lot more memorable and makes more sense in 9/10 situations
however fahrenheit is better than celsius for daily life, and i will die on that hill
formal hill
I personally know both, I even know stone
true lake
usually in science we are always taught metric because it's kind of necessary to avoid confusion in hypotheses
formal hill
Fahrenheit makes more sense than Celsius 100%
It's a smaller increase on a scale, it's easier to conceive the difference of 71-72 F than it is 20-21 C
Because one is almost no difference effectually
plucky flax
Wut we use celcius here.
When you guys say like it's 80 degree I die.
That's boiling water yo.
thorn cedar
83 deliciouses to a mile