#psyker-class

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patent wing
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the autoclicker mod actually sux kinda hard because often its not working

ornate hamlet
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yeah but not every weapon can push people from 10 feet away

patent wing
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it switches it state every 30 seconds

ornate hamlet
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sheesh, yeah that sucks

upper sun
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WE LOVE TO SEE IT DONT WE

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lethal lagoon
upper sun
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I should start learning hammer smh

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my next 400k is gonna be for a new zealot hammer

ornate hamlet
untold niche
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in terms of removing visual clutter, you should get DisableScreenEffects

jovial juniper
upper sun
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i already have thrust 4

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YOU KNOW WHAT FUCK IT

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ill spend another 400k

untold niche
upper sun
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🤔

jovial juniper
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And Ironhelm is H3

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Which you get after a push

patent wing
upper sun
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staregryn so close

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patent wing
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btw the outline mod does not do what i thought it does - auto hightlighting specials kek

upper sun
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im so good at this

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lethal lagoon
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Skill issue

upper sun
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umm actually its clearly not perfect

ornate hamlet
true lake
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speaking of mods i need to get on getting those, forgot what the process was

ornate hamlet
true lake
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i used to have a couple but i was too lazy to sit and update them

jovial juniper
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And damn that's a good hammer

upper sun
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i was thinking momentum as well tbh

upper galleon
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Why would you be a hammerblow enthusiast for hammer

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Why momentum

lethal lagoon
upper galleon
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You have headtaker and slaught as options

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To pair with thrust

upper sun
upper galleon
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Also psyker class

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Where am i

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This fever is getting to me

patent wing
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+cara +unyielding gang rise up

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we hate +flak

upper galleon
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Cara good on ironhelm, doesnt give crucis a bp

upper sun
jovial juniper
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"I have hammerblow, that's right"
Fight my way out of the corner

upper sun
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i can always change it again later

jovial juniper
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But why hammer on that mission?
Limit testing

proper osprey
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Wish they would buff assail back to its original damage

upper sun
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switched to headtaker

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OK

ornate hamlet
upper sun
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time to get kicked out of my first match for doing zero damage

paper lily
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assail does insane dmg

ornate hamlet
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yeah

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half assail charges nerf it

proper osprey
upper sun
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suprised we got dd buffs last patch

jovial juniper
upper sun
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i switched my void to DD after the last patch it feels so nice

proper osprey
upper sun
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such a cheap build

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4 FUCKING FREE POINTS

paper lily
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nah it's probably 30% of my total dmg

upper sun
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unheard of for psykers

paper lily
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it destroys in auric

lethal lagoon
upper sun
ornate hamlet
upper sun
proper osprey
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Really wish bb kinetic flayer was 5 seconds instead of 15

lethal lagoon
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BBB, EP, and DD

jovial juniper
lethal lagoon
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Yeah there's another problem, the talents lead up to BBB aren't that needed.

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So like you have to go to the other trees anyways all the time

upper sun
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walking to the mission terminal every single time you wanna play is a swedish humiliation ritual and no one can convince me otherwise

ornate hamlet
lethal lagoon
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BBB is great at shrieking, yep

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It's in the name

patent wing
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BB is still to weak imo, why do i need 3 to kill a fking mauler/bulwark

ornate hamlet
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i dont know what BBB stands for im stupid

lethal lagoon
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No me

ornate hamlet
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very very dumb

lethal lagoon
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Compared to the other ways you need to kill a bulwark

patent wing
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cmon even upgraded needs 3

lethal lagoon
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EP BB doesn't two shot a bully?

patent wing
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its single target and builds up peril like nothing else

plucky flax
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EP bb is 2 shots no?

patent wing
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no

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
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That feels untrue

plucky flax
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I'm 100% sure it's 2 shots.

marble crater
lethal lagoon
patent wing
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ah yeah it does just checked it

lethal lagoon
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I literally went to go chec

patent wing
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its the shriek that doesnt 2 shot

lethal lagoon
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Huh?

patent wing
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yeah forgot it deals no bonus dmg

plucky flax
patent wing
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this one of the best memes

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idk if they even count as pepes

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
patent wing
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are u on nitro

lethal lagoon
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Nah that's bad for you

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And it's not even that fun

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Worst deal of all time, I tell you, the worst.

untold niche
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:PEWHmmmmZoom:

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FDUCK

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nobody saw that

lethal lagoon
untold niche
plucky flax
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I have the cheap nitro.

untold niche
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nitro or not

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monkey gifs

plucky flax
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$10 a month is kinda crazy.

untold niche
plucky flax
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$3 is enough for moi.

untold niche
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i got mine for free

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code

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3 months

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im not paying 3 dollars per month just to be more special on discord

lyric burrow
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Yeah i think i have the 3 dollars a month version although i just paid for a year

untold niche
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36 dollarts

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to be cool on discord

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for 1 year

lethal lagoon
untold niche
plucky flax
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I'm paying too much gas money already.

lyric burrow
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Eh i use discord enough

lethal lagoon
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Gas is pretty cheap here

lyric burrow
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Oh nvm i got the full version

untold niche
untold niche
lethal lagoon
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I don't know of a subscription that's a good value

untold niche
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120 dollars a year

lethal lagoon
lyric burrow
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Well 100 but ye

untold niche
plucky flax
lethal lagoon
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Gas is so cheap I couldn't tell you the price, cause it was so unremarkable i didn't even notice it.

plucky flax
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Wtf according to this site.

untold niche
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i would say onedrive family is certainly good value though.
Not only cloud storage (2TB per 5 accounts ) it gives you MS office licenses

plucky flax
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We're #16 most expensive. nooooo

lyric burrow
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Its 3 and a half dollars - 4 dollars here

plucky flax
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US is #72 at $0.96 per litre.

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That's crazy cheap.

lethal lagoon
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We measure by gallon out here boy

plucky flax
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Oddly enough we have it as litre by the pump.

untold niche
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wait don't you guys have gas "tiers"

plucky flax
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It's sort of half imperial half metric here.

untold niche
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how do you know which tiery ou guys are comparing

lethal lagoon
rich spindle
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What the hell is a liter

plucky flax
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You get it good.

untold niche
plucky flax
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Tbh it got cheaper these days.

untold niche
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someoen reply me ;-;

plucky flax
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In 2022 it was over $2 per litre.

untold niche
ornate hamlet
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i know shocking

rich spindle
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Sounds undemocratic

plucky flax
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Wave 2 covid gas price got me wishing I lived in the netherlands and can just bike everywhere.

ornate hamlet
untold niche
lyric burrow
rich spindle
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rage

plucky flax
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Yes we have premium and regular.

lyric burrow
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So generally its assumed to be the cheapest

untold niche
lyric burrow
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Yeah

plucky flax
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But even our 'regular' is of higher quality than other countries I heard.

untold niche
plucky flax
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Our regular unleaded is 95 octane.

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I heard in america the cheap stuff is like 89. PepeLaugh

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Maybe that's why price is expensive here.

lyric burrow
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very possible

plucky flax
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If I was american I'd like to be texan. GIGACHAD

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Highkey want to wear cowboy hat.

ornate hamlet
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oh just the hat?

plucky flax
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I like western. whatthefuck_heresy

ornate hamlet
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well atleast it isnt florida

plucky flax
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Florida would be gud if I could live in rich neighbourhood.

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Like Naples area?

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Massive house with a little dock and a boat out the back.

ornate hamlet
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lmao yeah i imagine life is pretty good no matter what if your rich

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florida, texas, new york who cares.... MONEY

lethal lagoon
ornate hamlet
lethal lagoon
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Austin is pretty gay though, so meh.

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Depends where in texas

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Texas is bigger than most European countries btw.

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I think

rich spindle
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Texas is larger than all of europe

upper sun
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I am no longer a psyker I am now a hammer zealot

restive ice
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texas is larger than america

ornate hamlet
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yeah and also you get angry armed republicans in upstate new york of all places so its safe to say there is a pocket of them everywhere so not entirly a downside of a whole state

ornate hamlet
lyric burrow
ornate hamlet
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everything is bigger in texas

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this includes texas

lethal lagoon
upper sun
lethal lagoon
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95 = 87

rich spindle
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Angry armed republicans are fun to go shooting with

lethal lagoon
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So no, UK gas just expensive

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So I go $3.27 per gallon at the closest station near me, that's 3.7 liters.

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86c a liter

ornate hamlet
sacred crane
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When can we get psyker exclusive gun

ornate hamlet
lethal lagoon
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las pistol has psyker exclusive push

sacred crane
ornate hamlet
sacred crane
ornate hamlet
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yeah

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it does

sacred crane
sacred crane
patent wing
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it makes no sense anyway

lethal lagoon
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TBF, it's a little weird psyker is the only class without an exclusive mk or type or something

patent wing
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ranged with push attack xd

ornate hamlet
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i dont have recording software

sacred crane
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Does he do like a force shove?

ornate hamlet
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would you belive you could also bonk ppl with your staff

sacred crane
ornate hamlet
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its the same button

sacred crane
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How is the shove different

ornate hamlet
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its not

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just looks cool

lethal lagoon
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It costs peril, it better be different

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I assume it's stronger

sacred crane
ornate hamlet
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20% dmg high peril

sacred crane
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Is las pistol good for psyker

ornate hamlet
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yes

sacred crane
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Good

lethal lagoon
sacred crane
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Full mobile psyker build

ornate hamlet
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culumnus is stupid though

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makes every other gun besides the revolvers pointless

sacred crane
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Simply dont use it

ornate hamlet
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so run the las for fun

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yeah

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thats what i do

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screw the columnus

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screw the voidstrike

plucky flax
sacred crane
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What blessing are good for las pistol again

ornate hamlet
lethal lagoon
upper sun
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dumdum infernus raking

plucky flax
sacred crane
lethal lagoon
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Then again, UK is the home of the "stone"

upper sun
lethal lagoon
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They are wrong pretty often

lethal lagoon
upper sun
ornate hamlet
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forgot to charge the battery

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and just continues to forget every mission

patent wing
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did they buff purloin?

vestal fulcrum
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No whatthefuck_heresy

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It's still as terrible as ever

pine shore
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How important is first target?

lethal lagoon
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Pretty important

pine shore
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yea, but is it THAT important?

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this is perfect otherwise

vestal fulcrum
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It might not cost you a leg

rich spindle
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Difference between 66 and high 70s is like 8% total damage I think

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Around there

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You can check and see

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By hovering over the bar

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Thats a beautiful knife for zealot

pine shore
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I am in psyker chat, right?

vestal fulcrum
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Maybe

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but there are Zealot mains inbound

upper sun
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we're gonna talk about hammers now

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man ironhelms great

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shame i'm ass with it KEKW_ogryn

pine shore
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it seems like there are no major breakpoints between like 66% first target and 76% first target

upper sun
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check the range

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as long as first target is above 1 i say its fine

pine shore
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it x1.08

upper sun
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whats the range?

rich spindle
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Yeah this game doesnt have many breakpoints

pine shore
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oh wait

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Is this true???

vestal fulcrum
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The portion about "hitting multiple" is redundant

pine shore
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Or does it also affect the damage if I'm using it for just single target

vestal fulcrum
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it's the bonus damage the first target receives

upper sun
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ye

pine shore
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So it will multiply all damage

upper sun
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like 1.15 only exists at 100% first target

pine shore
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ok

upper sun
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so the real range is like what .75-1.09?

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can someone check a knife with 80% first target i just closed the game

vestal fulcrum
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it's 0.75 - 1.25

upper sun
pine shore
rich spindle
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Liar liar

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Pants on fire

pine shore
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It's 1.15 at 100%

vestal fulcrum
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So you can get up to 1.15 multiplier

upper sun
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is it the same knife?

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mk 6?

vestal fulcrum
pine shore
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What is this weapon

vestal fulcrum
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Combat blade 6

pine shore
upper sun
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what

pine shore
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This is combat blade 6

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what

upper sun
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what

pine shore
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wait

vestal fulcrum
upper sun
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ok im start the game again

pine shore
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Do I have mods that do something with stats?

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Lemme check

vestal fulcrum
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you have a mod that fucks with the localization

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so probably yes

pine shore
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lmao, yes, I do have a mod

rich spindle
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You have the mod that makes 80% a full bar

pine shore
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1.15 is at 80%

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I totally forgot

upper sun
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ah

pine shore
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So I'm losing what, 5% damage?

rich spindle
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So it really was only like 8% damage diff

pine shore
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Because there's no way I'm rolling an 80 in all damage stats

rich spindle
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Ya

vestal fulcrum
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It's not the end of the world

pine shore
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realistically it's nowhere close to 7 or 8 or whatever

true lake
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what mods you guys suggest

pine shore
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All of them

rich spindle
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Health bars B)

pine shore
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Just need uncanny strike and either Unyielding or maniac

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prob maniac

rich spindle
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I guess for psyker yeah

lethal lagoon
vestal fulcrum
lethal lagoon
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true level is nice for judging people

vestal fulcrum
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and these

lethal lagoon
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scoreboard is nice for checking how much damage the toxic person who just backseated you did
(hint, it's always 4th place)

pine shore
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Don't forget to spend 2 hours configuring all of them

rich spindle
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I might go crit chance on that knife

true lake
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jesus

pine shore
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If you just install and go, it will be unplayable

upper sun
pine shore
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I need uncanny, so the carapace damage stays

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and I couldn't find uncanny after 25k plasteel

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great

rich spindle
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Really

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Wiw

pine shore
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Not even t3

plucky flax
pine shore
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and bad player

rich spindle
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Except health bars

pine shore
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Except for every mod that I use

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those are ok

true lake
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nah i mainly want QoL mods not anything that alters the game

pine shore
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All mods are qol

near drift
pine shore
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You can't alter the game, everything has to be clientside

spice veldt
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sorry only i am allowed to use mods

plucky flax
near drift
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called out

pine shore
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Oh no

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You used an autoclicker?

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In darktide?

cold ivy
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autofire is probably good if you want to save your wrists with one of those semiautomatic lasguns (or laspistols? I can't remember which one)

pine shore
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TO CLICK FAST?

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Unforgivable

true lake
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you dont even need a mod for an auto clicker

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thats just a glorified macro

near drift
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true gamers develop carpal tunnel by 30

plucky flax
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No I love playing laspistol and manually click each shot.

pine shore
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btw, what exactly clicking fast gives you?

plucky flax
ornate hamlet
upper galleon
true lake
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there has never been an instance in this game where clicking fast was the optimal strat lol

upper galleon
plucky flax
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If you click faster you attack faster it's fax.

upper galleon
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It’s also nice with the headhunter autoguns and inflas

plucky flax
pine shore
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zealots are going to kill for this information

upper galleon
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I am a zealot

pine shore
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Go kill someone

supple sedge
rich spindle
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Sometimes I think about autoclicker when im doing horde clear with the knife

cold ivy
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i have a mouse macro to click+hold for 0.5s for heavies when i hit a side button and my lights are bound to mouse wheel down so i never have to click, for some reason clicking with my index finger makes my wrist hurt a lot more than thumb buttons/scrolling

upper galleon
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Autoswing and fullauto let you toggle for melee and ranged respectively and it is very useful

pine shore
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There is a mod that lights up all the boxes before you do them

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So you know the combination immedeately after you take your hacky thingy

plucky flax
supple sedge
rich spindle
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Health bars and show next line on interrigator are the only non cheat mods

upper galleon
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Nah healthbars is fine

rich spindle
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Exactly

upper galleon
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I have poor vision and not wasting ammo on a corpse doing a death animation is a big help

true lake
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imma probably just use this mod collection on nexus called ashax's

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seems to have most everything

upper galleon
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I dont trust mod collections

supple sedge
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Ulgo never trust mods

true lake
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if you cant trust mod collections then you cant really trust mods

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not like mod collections do anything other than compile premade mods

upper galleon
true lake
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fair, more customized that way ofc

formal hill
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I really only use scoreboard and I think the vast majority of people who use mods have scoreboard, they should just make it official like better melk

paper lily
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modding is already so easy idiots get really simple stuff wrong, now you've got compilations for those same people

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powerdi should be official since it logs like infinitely more information

formal hill
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They should make their own scoreboard, but we should have one

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And if people really don't want one, have the ability to turn it off for themselves, it would be no different than modding one at that point

paper lily
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if the whole point was to reduce toxicity they already missed that boat

formal hill
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Toxicity is an underlying problem that they can't address, any game that has players, with or without a scoreboard, will be toxic, there is way too many insecure people in the world

paper lily
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speaking the truth

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just like limiting peoples vocabulary in a game will do nothing to stop them saying 'those' words

formal hill
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Even if they don't use the words you know, they'll make new ones

true lake
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yeah toxicity cant really be circumvented, they screwed that up as soon as the decision to make a 40k game was made

paper lily
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yep

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it's weird how people don't see that

formal hill
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Any game with player interaction will have a lot of toxic players

paper lily
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blizzard is very recently taking the stance that if you say 'fuck' in a game, you will be perma banned

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to me this is wild

formal hill
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And in tide games, especially darktide where teamwork is objectively more important, it's painfully obvious who's dragging their feet, even without a scoreboard

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Really it comes with the type of game

paper lily
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i kinda prefer when the internet is the wild west, be whoever say whatever, if those things come back to haunt you that's on you

formal hill
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Pre-bridge incident you mean

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The pewdiepie one

paper lily
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i don't watch pewdiepie, he's legit after my time kekw

formal hill
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If you know you know

paper lily
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i have a vague recollection of this

formal hill
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You don't have to watch pewdiepie to know

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The bridge heard round the world people called it KEKW_ogryn

paper lily
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to me it's not really a big deal, what was a big deal is the audience he is speaking to

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you've got others spewing vile shit on the net for literal decades

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darksydephil comes to mind

formal hill
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Oh 100% I agree, say what you want and the face whatever consequences come of that publicly, but when you talk to kids it's different

hoary leaf
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isnt an auto clicker just the evolved form of a SNES Turbo controller?

paper lily
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not even evolved, just the same thing

hoary leaf
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nah its evolved cause that makes it sound cooler :3

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also I swear Sire Melk never has any level 4 staff perks for sale when I remember to check

orchid shadow
rich spindle
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They removed the /spit emote from classic wow lol

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So you cant spit on your enemies anymore

supple dock
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I think meat canyon showed the video without the audio in his Markiplier parody

orchid shadow
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Really? I mean, /spit wasn't classy, but it seems a weird thing to take out in a game with PvP zones where you can kill people.

upper galleon
orchid shadow
paper lily
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people just seem to ignore the fact a block feature exists in every single fucking game since like 2000

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if you don't like the shit someone is saying, block them

lethal lagoon
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TBF, that's literally what Blizzard did though

upper sun
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someone took a small ammo i really wanted FS pls break his knees

lethal lagoon
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When you open a box and someone sweeps everything in it because you have input delay

upper sun
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Ive cucked people out of ammo because i was hammering interact to insta pick up plasteel

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i wish the game had auto pick up for resources if you look at them in range

lethal lagoon
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I'd rather get resources for side objectives than picking stuff up

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my eyes are too old for this

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
plucky flax
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Fair enough if they're psyker cos no ammo stealing.

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But the amount of zealot running ahead then take 1% from big ammo. whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
strong gulch
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Freedom to look in the box.

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
near drift
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If you ping plasteel/diamantine and then don't pick it up I will slash your tires

strong gulch
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Hide one of the rolly wheels from your chair.

supple dock
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binds diamantine callout to spacebar

upper sun
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DIAMONTEEN

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
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Mark it as "I need it" and block everyone else from picking it up.

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that was a "fun" bug

near drift
supple dock
lethal lagoon
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Enough

upper sun
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hell yeah just got uncanny for knife

supple dock
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Far be it from me to be "enough"

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I am a goddamn act of god

lethal lagoon
supple dock
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nah im testicular torsion

lethal lagoon
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😨

ornate hamlet
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im a crackhead with a deimos

pine shore
lethal lagoon
strong gulch
lethal lagoon
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Yet

ornate hamlet
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5 more years

strong gulch
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I have always been. whatthefuck_heresy

lethal lagoon
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When you think you are about to have a heart attack, but it's just a fart, that's when you are really old

strong gulch
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aneurysm or gas

lethal lagoon
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The fun card game for ages 45+

supple dock
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shortcut to being old

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(also why im terminally online)

lethal lagoon
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Speedrunning age

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That's rough bro

supple dock
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yeeeee

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It's a miracle I can put my thoughts together as I do tbh

strong gulch
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Speaking of shortcuts to being old. My cane backup got here today. 🎉

lethal lagoon
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Can you legally have a cane sword in the U.S?

strong gulch
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Just regular cane.

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
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YOu can order cane swords online tho

supple dock
strong gulch
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My cane is carbon fiber because acrylic is too heavy.

lethal lagoon
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I've always liked the cane as a stealth weapon ever since the OG Gandalf did it

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Staff but same concept

strong gulch
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CANE PAIN

lethal lagoon
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It'd probably be easier to get a permit for a gun gun than a cane sword in some U.S states

supple dock
lethal lagoon
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I meant gun cane, but I like gun gun

supple dock
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or a claymore

strong gulch
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Does it shoot canes or guns?

lethal lagoon
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Point it at someone and the whole stick flies off like a rocket

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Then you shuffle over, reinsert the stick into the handle, pull it out of them, and walk away, all badass like.

strong gulch
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Have a puppers to go "fetch" the stick out.

lethal lagoon
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The juxtaposition of gore and a cute puppy

cosmic sigil
supple dock
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Gunblades don't even really shoot

cosmic sigil
#

gunsword all the way

supple dock
#

It's literally just a medieval HF blade

lethal lagoon
jovial juniper
supple dock
#

a monster in the making?

cosmic sigil
#

BOOM

lethal lagoon
#

It's not good to heat an already quenched and finished blade like that

cosmic sigil
#

that design was a bit over the top and ridiculous

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like ff8

supple dock
#

ff8 was wild

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Like FF7 was pretty hardcore but it still stayed within its lane if that makes sense

cosmic sigil
#

i vastly preferred ff6, 7 and 12

supple dock
#

FF8 just went "lmao nah"

cosmic sigil
#

i shoudl redo 12

lethal lagoon
#

14 is the best final fantasy

supple dock
#

Though my favorite is ff4

cosmic sigil
#

my favorite is... ff tactics

supple dock
#

tactics is a good game

cosmic sigil
#

that fucking story

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it hurts

lethal lagoon
cosmic sigil
#

i have been waiting

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for 2 decades now

paper lily
#

u guys ever play legend of mana

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goated game

cosmic sigil
#

to do it all again with 100% completion rate

paper lily
#

ff3/6 is my favorite ff

cosmic sigil
#

i don't wanna die of old age like @lethal lagoon

paper lily
#

swear its the only ff where the villain still 'wins' in the end

lethal lagoon
paper lily
lethal lagoon
#

When they take your warpfire

paper lily
#

idk in multi psyker games i just remove warpfire dmg

#

shit is all fucked up

lethal lagoon
#

I assume that was EP smite?

paper lily
#

nah this is my regular build

lethal lagoon
#

So little melee though

paper lily
#

don't need to melee

lethal lagoon
paper lily
#

i mostly only melee mutants or ragers that get too close tbh

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rofl like no one meleed in that game

lethal lagoon
#

When a ranged vet build has your highest melee damage

paper lily
#

think they were playing infantry lasgun as well so they basically had infinite ammo to shoot forever

abstract arch
paper lily
#

gaming

rich spindle
paper lily
#

just don't get hit 4Head

cosmic sigil
strong gulch
lethal lagoon
supple dock
paper lily
#

seiken densetsu

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iirc

supple dock
#

that was #3

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cause secret of mana 1 and 2 were ported

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#3 was not

paper lily
#

secret of mana in eng release is seiken densetsu 2

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never played 1 just 2 and 3

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trials of mana is 3 remake

supple dock
#

ye

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And it was good

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They added new content

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PLAYED MY BOY KEVIN

paper lily
#

haha

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yea, they were good games

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2 was buggy as fuck really abusable game

next zephyr
near drift
jovial juniper
strong gulch
junior dirge
#

any tips for purgatus? is it ever worth using on single targets and should i just use it for hordes instead of melee?

upper galleon
#

then swap

ornate hamlet
junior dirge
#

ohh cool

lethal lagoon
#

You should be using purg on everything but crushers and mutants

ornate hamlet
#

unless you have uncanny

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then them too with a mix of sword

#

yeah purg does crazy dmg but the game gives you no way of figuring out how stuff works unless you just happen to notice it, or go and test in meat grinder and happen to find it

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and the meat grinder sometimes doesnt even work by the same rules of the game

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so you end up seeing something in the grinder just to find out it doesnt happen in game or vice versa

#

i think mods fix some of this

junior dirge
#

with crushers i just use my legs to run away

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scary

ornate hamlet
#

use your dodge button

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your scarier

junior dirge
#

true

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also i think my sword's warp attack one shots mutants

ornate hamlet
#

unless your using the illisi i recommend never using that special attack

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you are better off forgetting it exists

junior dirge
#

yeah its the only case where i use it

ornate hamlet
#

counterpoint, stab twice

junior dirge
#

fair lol

strong gulch
ornate hamlet
#

ok so 31 was a correct number just not for the purg XD

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aight thx

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anyway purg best (entirely my opinion and wrong) staff purely because it enables melee psyker so much and also voidstrike is maidenless

candid dawn
#

dude i wish there was a blessing for the knives that made you move faster after a weakpoint kill or something

#

i need my psyker to ZOOM even more

mental grail
#

common purg l

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purg does look more badass unfortunately

#

💔

ornate hamlet
#

my problem with the void is what isnt it good at

candid dawn
#

voidstaff is so good its boring

mental grail
#

being used by competent players

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void/smite/illisi is braindead build

candid dawn
#

the only staff i really dont like using

mental grail
#

purg is the only staff that gives you literally no option to deal with ranged, its why I hate it personally

ornate hamlet
mental grail
#

yeah if it goes anywhere near them (which it won't because the gunners are sniping you at 550rpm from 98 meters away)

ornate hamlet
#

bb

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pop their heads

mental grail
#

yeah you have to

ornate hamlet
#

yeah

mental grail
#

with void just point click

ornate hamlet
#

or slide into cover

mental grail
#

no switching

ornate hamlet
#

yeah void is boring

mental grail
#

same with surge

ornate hamlet
#

surge is a little better

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cant really handle crowds

mental grail
#

with trauma just charge heavy and knock them over

mental grail
#

surge has weaknesses without them being crippling in certain scenarios

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like if you get swarmed, it's bad, but youre not as fucked as a purg user being sniped

ornate hamlet
#

my problem with void is its so good, it makes everything else you have pointless

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oh you have a blitz, void does it better

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or melee, just void it

mental grail
#

my point exactly, you have to switch to other tools because purg is useless in all of those

ornate hamlet
#

and my point exactly

#

void is so op its brainless and worse than smite

mental grail
#

make purg better, void is fine at its state

ornate hamlet
#

purg is fine

mental grail
#

disagree

ornate hamlet
#

nerf the socks of void

lyric burrow
#

im not gonna lie void is pretty disgustingly OP at this point in time

ornate hamlet
#

no ammo

lyric burrow
#

it literally does everything

ornate hamlet
#

inf peirce

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deals with single target

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good armor dmg

mental grail
#

then make the others better, lower cleave for void

ornate hamlet
#

wipes your ass while its at it

lyric burrow
#

the others are fine except trauma which is also overtuned

upper galleon
#

void did get nerfed by like 25% damage didn't it

lyric burrow
#

it got a small nerf to cara damage but still one shots with surge anyway

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you wouldnt have noticed it if it wasnt in the patch notes

upper galleon
#

at least void didn't get buffed cause bad players dragged down winrate going EP Shield smite instead of charges shield smite

mental grail
lyric burrow
#

it could probably use less wild scaling

upper galleon
#

i have to aim a void staff

lyric burrow
#

kinda?

#

its not like its a tight thing to aim

upper galleon
#

tighter than smite by a mile

#

that shit has spread to enemies behind me

lyric burrow
#

i mean smite is not a high bar to clear

mental grail
#

I mean, I can turn around and keep smiting people

#

can't do that with void lul

lyric burrow
#

simply because it isnt auto aim does not mean you need to be precise with it

ornate hamlet
#

no but you wouldnt need to, void just kills them

candid dawn
#

delete psyker

ornate hamlet
#

like cool, smite stuns the, void unalives them

candid dawn
#

problem solved

ornate hamlet
#

you know

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your not wrong

lyric burrow
#

psyker does have a lot of OP stuff so

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that would solve the issue

candid dawn
#

no more smite or void problems if they no longer exist

#

🙏

mental grail
upper galleon
ornate hamlet
#

with shriek or ep

upper galleon
#

EP + soulblaze+ vent soulblaze have fun

#

get kill feeds that look like pre nerf plasma gun

ornate hamlet
#

brainless build, ive already gave that build more attention then it deserves

spice veldt
#

purg should have its infinite cleave annihilated

mental grail
#

fr

#

brainless playstyle

lyric burrow
ornate hamlet
#

i would honestly love that

mental grail
#

you people have no fun lul

candid dawn
#

delete staves and blitzes

ornate hamlet
#

huge hoards you dont just instantly delete

candid dawn
#

all psykers are now converted into veterans

ornate hamlet
lyric burrow
#

i get fun from overcoming challenge and making full use of my tools

mental grail
#

nerf after nerf smh, the anti enjoyment squad has arrived KEKW_ogryn

lyric burrow
#

void negates both of these

#

infinite cleave in general is just not that healthy

spice veldt
#

i mean it can still be fun

#

we just have to add in a finite limit for it

#

that's still high but not literally infinite

lyric burrow
#

things obliterating the map on accident is not the only way for things to be fun

mental grail
#

it's what you sacrifice everything else for

lyric burrow
#

and i dont think thats great design

spice veldt
#

trash enemies have low hitmass and if new purg has a high finite cleave, it'd still go through a lot of them

mental grail
#

Lmfao

ornate hamlet
lyric burrow
#

the design is literally make one part of the game irrelevant

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by holding right click

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+EP interaction is gross

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but thats seperate

spice veldt
#

and i think you are overstating purg's limited range

#

i can just run up into a ranged patrol and flame their asses, including reapers, because they all get suppressed

ornate hamlet
#

yeah

mental grail
#

good thing it's not required

lyric burrow
#

it can be great but its not exactly balanced

spice veldt
#

in a world where suppression is more nuanced, i'd still kill the infinite cleave

lyric burrow
#

esp when it does have other things going for it

spice veldt
#

because it is very difficult to balance anything AoE that has no limit of sorts in a horde shooter

candid dawn
#

thats easy

lyric burrow
#

RN it either invalidates hordes or turns off ranged AI, and thats not counting it killing everything if you are abusing uncanny

candid dawn
#

make purg flames heal the enemy instead

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also probably turn the flame into poxgas to buff them too

spice veldt
#

e.g., WWZ was a game that implemented target limits for explosions (in fairness, the game has a lot of chokepoints by design)

ornate hamlet
candid dawn
#

put me on the balancing team boys i will fix this game

spice veldt
#

so true

#

enable friendly fire

lyric burrow
#

well i dont think DT is lacking chokepoints tbf

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esp with how spawns work anyway

spice veldt
#

yeah just preempting the "chokepoint" argument in case they bring that up for WWZ

candid dawn
#

i so wish friendly fire becomes a modifier in the future

#

imagine if it was permanently enabled in maelstroms

lyric burrow
#

i would never play the game

#

i would be dead

candid dawn
#

that would be cool and funny and cool

lyric burrow
#

at the hands of someone unnamed

lethal lagoon
#

FF for toughness would be fine

candid dawn
#

one ogryn frag and the entire game is over

spice veldt
candid dawn
#

smite also stuns your allies

lyric burrow
cosmic sigil
#

is one of the best

candid dawn
#

reviving voice of command ALSO revives enemies

#

bro were so back

spice veldt
cosmic sigil
#

because i solo queue a lot and people do not know how to handle packs of elites... most of the time

lyric burrow
#

i am a knife psyker your not catching me

#

stupid

#

inf stam regen too

ornate hamlet
mental grail
# lyric burrow +EP interaction is gross

It really is not, it's pretty great actually. If you're playing A5 maelstrom and still clearing with ease, I think you're hitting a skill ceiling and suggesting changes based off of that level of play and not the actual most common level of play. (pubs of middling skill in heresy/damnation.)

spice veldt
#

except that the high difficulties is also where balance changes actually affect things

#

if you're in the middle difficulties, who gives a shit

#

just step up or down

lyric burrow
#

purg was simply not balanced around being able to do high damage to everything in the game

mental grail
#

most people do not, statistically

lyric burrow
#

its blantantly unhealthy

#

i should not be deleting crusher packs with purge

ornate hamlet
#

that what does it

#

not purg

spice veldt
#

degenerate strats

lyric burrow
#

yeah im saying remove the interaction

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so that it doesnt affect purge

#

well uncanny does also need a nerf

#

as i also shouldnt be making carapace irrelevant

#

simply by headshotting a few tiems

mental grail
ornate hamlet
#

5 head shots and armor no longer exists

lyric burrow
#

very balanced

#

surely its not on weapons with high base damage in the first place

ornate hamlet
#

so fun and interactive, turn everything into a poxwalker with varying lvls of dmg

spice veldt
ornate hamlet
#

if we were balancing around low dificulties assail wouldnt exist

spice veldt
#

though that can be remedied with some scaling factor that depends on difficulty or player level

#

it's less of a problem for other blitzes which are a finite resource, but psyker having blitzes that act more as a third weapon do become problematic in lower difficulties because of the lack of scaling

mental grail
spice veldt
#

now can we move on

cosmic sigil
#

can we agree on the fact not everything is meant to work the same on every difficulty?

lyric burrow
#

well yeah

mental grail
#

apparently not because things are too easy on a5 mael for you lul

spice veldt
#

what point are you even trying to make
I legitimately do not get it

cosmic sigil
#

a5 mael is not a build problem

#

it's most of the time a people problem

spice veldt
#

if the highets difficulties are not hard enough, then something obviously has to change

cosmic sigil
#

and also, fuck trappers

lyric burrow
#

yeah the highest difficulty is meant to be you know

#

hard

spice veldt
#

and such balance considerations do not need to consider middle difficulties because players in those middle difficulties have the option to step up or down

lyric burrow
#

if its not there is an issue

#

the issue here is player power

mental grail
#

arco

lyric burrow
#

hence why we are asking for nerfs

mental grail
#

they are hard enough

spice veldt
#

not at all

cosmic sigil
#

gard

mental grail
#

you literally have 2,700 hours in the game

spice veldt
#

and some weapons are just overspecialized

#

so?

lyric burrow
#

i dont think amount of time is relevant

spice veldt
#

a lot of the game's difficulty comes from a shitty tutorial

lyric burrow
#

if something is too easy its too easy

mental grail
#

I am not taking that seriously KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
#

i am not as good as you think I am

ornate hamlet
spice veldt
#

and I play in a braindead way all the time

candid dawn
mental grail
#

yes you are

candid dawn
#

i thought the game would be more complicated

spice veldt
#

i am absolutely not

lyric burrow
candid dawn
#

cuz the tutorial was making it seem more complicated than it was

spice veldt
mental grail
#

you are underestimating the average level of skill players are at and saying it's too easy

spice veldt
#

is it really that wild

#

to say that the hardest content in the game

#

should be properly hard

lyric burrow
#

yeah i dont see how thats a crazy thing to say

spice veldt
#

if players want an easier experience

#

just step down

#

the game literally has multiple difficulty levels

#

i don't get why "nerfs bad" people always ignore this fact

#

there are multiple difficulty levels

#

obviously if sedition becomes too hard for the lower bounds that's something that should be remedied

mental grail
lyric burrow
#

arco also isnt the only person on the planet clearing HISTG or saying its too easy

candid dawn
#

what is considered as average hours played actually

spice veldt
#

my skill in this game has tapered off a long time ago and stagnated

lyric burrow
candid dawn
#

wtf im speedrunning

spice veldt
#

also, I can take a break from this game for a month and still play well

mental grail
spice veldt
#

a lot of this game can just be auto-piloted

lyric burrow
#

you can be good and the game can also be too easy

spice veldt
#

isn't that in support of me though?

#

if I'm overestimating my own competence??

mental grail
#

but on the opposite end lmao

#

no

lethal lagoon
# spice veldt just step down

This was originally a bad argument, but then they added aurics, so you can farm normal damns at any skill level for crafting mats

#

And they definitely power crept every class with patch 13.

lyric burrow
#

4 people just dicking around should not have a 90% clear rate on HISTG regardless of hour count

#

it is meant to be the hardest content

cosmic sigil
mental grail
#

2,700 hour a5 mael runner saying he's not that good is literally the far end of the dunning Kruger effect

spice veldt
#

and on the original point, there's no reason to keep purg's infinite cleave around

cosmic sigil
#

unless you're talking about weapons

lethal lagoon
lyric burrow
#

hes saying hes not as good as you think he is

spice veldt
#

i am not that good relative to what a dedicated player is

#

i play extremely braindead builds

#

i have barely improved on any skill

mental grail
#

and I'm saying he is, when you consider the average player isn't on discord or reddit and literally just fucks around

cosmic sigil
mental grail
#

that guy is who they are balancing around

spice veldt
#

but i've said numerous times that balance doesn't matter for the "average", the players who are in the middle difficulties

#

because they can shift around

#

players at the highest difficulty can not go more up

mental grail
#

and I'm saying nerfs would disproportionately affect the majority in favor of a small minority not worth catering to

lethal lagoon
spice veldt
#

and i'm saying that it would affect the majority in a meaningless way because they can just step down

#

also, note that I'm also favoring enemy neerfs as well

#

i'm not just considering straight up nerfs

lethal lagoon
#

Average active player is another subject, but among average active players, cosmetic purchasers are more important

spice veldt
#

nerf purg infinite cleave and nerf enemy density

lyric burrow
#

yeah i really dont think that malice players are gonna be nearly as affected as you think

mental grail
#

average players are in heresy and damnation

spice veldt
#

what

lethal lagoon
#

Average players aren't playing.

cosmic sigil
#

i wish we had some data about how many players you have in each diff on average

ornate hamlet
#

avg player quit

candid dawn
#

the average player is someone who picks vet as their first class, plays the game a bit and then gets bored and closes the game cus they were playing low level vet

mental grail
cosmic sigil
lethal lagoon
mental grail
#

bruh

spice veldt
#

the average player is on malice and in the difficulties around

#

and like I said

lyric burrow
#

yeah most people play on malice and do not move up

spice veldt
#

if it's too hrad

#

players can step down

mental grail
#

the average player is not going to want to move down because the mael tryhards are finding it too easy, it's a bad decision

#

like textbook terrible

spice veldt
#

so it's just an optics issue?

#

not even a balance problem?

#

just how players are going to perceive it?

ornate hamlet
#

this is the same logic that removed the scoreboard

#

the brainrot

spice veldt
#

can we please just ignore the "how will players perceive this aspect" and just talk about the balance aspect of the game...

lethal lagoon
#

Brother, there's like 5k active players and the game sold millions of copies.
If we are talking about maintaining the game and servers, average player means jack shit.

spice veldt
#

obviously if we had to consider how players perceive things

#

then we would be significantly more limited

mental grail
spice veldt
#

ignoring optics, the average player can step down

upper galleon
spice veldt
#

can you refute the fact that players can step down

mental grail
upper galleon
#

like, when assail was OP and making the game a cakewalk in all difficulties

mental grail
#

they just increased the recharge by one second.

ornate hamlet
upper galleon
#

basically, league proved this, lower elos care about perception annoyance, and outliers

mental grail
upper galleon
#

higher elo cares about the actual numbers and performance

#

so you balance around higher elo/pro first

#

because those players are more likely to recomnend and spread the game

mental grail
mental grail
#

That comes secondary.

#

Unless your game is league or csgo (inherently played by esports types has a comp culture where that is expected*, which darktide is not) you balance around the median level of play

upper galleon
#

it applies to darktide to

#

higher level darktide players have the larger audience