psyker-class

[untold niche]

btw you can use bulwark to tank gunner shots

make gunner give bulwark accupuncture

[warm oasis]

Fair, seem like good points

[lyric burrow]

yeah i would do disablers - bombers - snipers and whatever might kill you right in your face too obv

but its a bit context dependant

ie where the sniper is

[formal hill]

Kill the things shooting you and teamates

[upper sun]

man one rogue bomber can turn the entire level into lava

[untold niche]

sometime i just ignore dogs outright ( you shouldn't do this btw)
because its too chaotic and i just trust my team to dodge them after i pushed them and the dog is resetting

[lyric burrow]

yeah if bombers get out of hand it can be bad

[untold niche]

at certain points you get a feel of what you can get away with.

[upper sun]

ive lost games because of one disabler

[warm oasis]

Part of why I like assail, aim fire and forget. Snipers take one, bombers may take two

[formal hill]

You mean the 3 it spawns at a time for some highly interactive gameplay, especially when nurgle blessed

[upper sun]

legit just one

[lyric burrow]

i will say remember in the actual situation it may not play out in a way where you can just take out stuff in the ideal order

[upper sun]

i was "trying to duo" with some dude from mourning star we killled like 4 weakened monsters until the 5th chaos spawn picked me up and the flamer that was like 2 bleed ticks away from dying wiped us

[formal hill]

When I hear, "Prepare omicron-mortis intercession" I immediately fire at it so I wouldn't know

[untold niche]

psyker very build dependent
i.e. most likely you need very good rolls on all of your stuff, the nades are the only thing that isn't build dependent on psyker

i would suggest for fun, try out gunker and void and blaze trauma

[upper sun]

MUH BREAKPOINTS

[untold niche]

oh yeah flamer would be quite high in the list because you can tell they do quite a bit of damage

[warm oasis]

Alright, thanks

[formal hill]

Unless you use dueling saber

Then you can kill everything easily

[upper sun]

my ogryn needs a new shield

two heavies should kill a flamer no?

[formal hill]

The crackhead at 7/11 asking me for change

I use bleed with shield so I dunno

[untold niche]

this is abit of a hot take
but uh, at some point you need to abandon coherency
usually in some situation if your team somehow wants to lay back in a shit position, especially for psyker

Alot of stuff is just breaking rules but you need to get the intuition for it

[upper sun]

🤔 yeah i had the wrong build i tried it again and it works i think i fucked up the heavy attack

[mental grail]

Assail is great for hunting grounds and STG basically they spawn and its

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[untold niche]

how easy to build shield btw?

[formal hill]

Main reason I use bleed is if I don't kill a non-elite in 2 hits they're usually dying to bleed on the ground since the CC is good

[upper sun]

this is mine

[warm oasis]

Have been using the Mk4 sword to deal with armored enemies. Trying a setup using that, Purgutus staff and assail.

[upper sun]

its not the best defense is very dumpy

[untold niche]

how many plasteel how many docket
how many (useless) blessings

i want to to build shield after i make my cknife

[formal hill]

My shield is worse than that and I kill things fine

[upper sun]

it only has 4 blessings as long as it has brutal its fine

[formal hill]

As many as it takes, rng system baby very fun

[untold niche]

this is sorta leaning into min maxxing:
Technically you can horde clear with ds4 and assail.
Usually people run ds4 and assail and gun for gunker.
assail and ds4 for horde clear,
ds4 for crushers and maulers
gun for elites and specials basically

[upper sun]

yeah i tested again i prolly fucked up the heavy attack and it came out as a light

[weary crane]

nearly there

[formal hill]

I usually do 2 or 3 heavies than a push with the push attack after

[upper sun]

i kneel

[formal hill]

9 thousand enemies would be roughly 18 more games if you average 500 kills a game, which is high for most players

[untold niche]

ah thanks dood

[mental grail]

the moebian 6th has a trust fund complete with a retirement plan waiting for whoever manages to put you in the ground

[untold niche]

eh seems to be low 300 damage ballaprk for 500 kills, doesn't seem to be that bad

[weary crane]

Idek my average kills per game but I think i can do it in 9 games

[candid dawn]

wtf i was just gonna turn this into a placeholder staff until i get another one with better stat distribution but ok hadron

[untold niche]

216k damage but 495 kills goddam

[formal hill]

Just depends what you hit

[upper sun]

WHY HIM

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-27446150

[untold niche]

the quell speed seems really low as well

[mental grail]

how do people get staffs like that 😭

[formal hill]

Depends what you use, I played vet and could average around 800-1k kills if I was going sweat mode

[untold niche]

snail surge

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/balcony-bleach-drink-drinking-jump-gif-24822094

[weary crane]

Well its much easier with horde clear builds like purga

[plucky flax]

Yes I did it thank you.

[paper lily]

ez

[plucky flax]

Extremely efficient zealot player.

[paper lily]

he was reloading his thammer

[formal hill]

My friend gets tilted because I get god rolls on like 3 purchases lmao

[crude vortex]

alright gamers gimme suggestions

[plucky flax]

I go water some plants now thank you mr lightbringer.

[paper lily]

np

[untold niche]

i going do this when you are on psyker just to irritate you LOL

[potent echo]

whats there to suggest? gamble gamble gamble

[mental grail]

Im getting tilted already

[crude vortex]

which perks

Gotta start with a good perk to gamble

[potent echo]

see what you get

[plucky flax]

Do what you want fren.

[formal hill]

Usually one tier 4 meta blessing on consecration too

[crude vortex]

alright, roll 2 unmodified then

[plucky flax]

Idc if people meme with ammo I just have to melee and die to trapper cos I have no ammo left.

[untold niche]

tbh sometimes i do that because no one took the ammo anywaya

[mental grail]

this is the aoe for vent above 85% right?

[crude vortex]

hmm

[potent echo]

still goo

[plucky flax]

It's an ammo crate. Someone put it down and he just grabbed 1 charge right away when he has 90% ammo left.

[crude vortex]

time for more plasteel

[formal hill]

I take the ammo if a vet gives grenades and I need penances

[potent echo]

testing for grenade

cause theres no indication

thanks fatshark

[plucky flax]

Real.

Because there were no vet on the team.

[mental grail]

how do you run out? I just spam assail when I get to 30%

[potent echo]

copium

[plucky flax]

Based zealot tester.

[potent echo]

[formal hill]

Still got to make sure

[plucky flax]

Oh I rarely use gun on psyker. But I mean when I'm on ogryn or zealot. I only use gun for specials pretty much.

[mental grail]

wait ammo crates have charges?

[formal hill]

No

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

uh...yes

[weary crane]

Wait I have 500 hours with 500,000 kills

1000 kills per hour🤔

[plucky flax]

No it's infinite.

[weary crane]

Seems too low

[plucky flax]

Just grab all ammo.

[paper lily]

if u waste ammo when i'm orange or red and get dogged thats ur problem

[plucky flax]

Shoot once, reload, take ammo crate repeat.

[ornate hamlet]

shoot 1 bullet and take that ammo

[paper lily]

u don't even have to reload

[mental grail]

what is the answer

[potent echo]

the answer is

[mental grail]

i am confusion

[potent echo]

dont use guns

[plucky flax]

If you didn't know there are 4 charges per crate.

[ornate hamlet]

double points if your team has a vet

[formal hill]

Yeah i hit 500k kills before I had 500 hours, I have no clue how because I didn't average 1k kills per hour tbh

[plucky flax]

The point is each dude take 1.No double dipping.

So if you shoot once and take it you are very based.

[ornate hamlet]

quad dip

[mental grail]

[formal hill]

I do this all the time

[potent echo]

i quad dip for ogin nukes

ez penance

[plucky flax]

Thank you for your service. We need more ammo crate taker like you.

[formal hill]

What can I say, I'm a born taker

[ornate hamlet]

our success is messured in veteran tears

[mental grail]

columnus goes BRRRRR

[formal hill]

Wait a second

[plucky flax]

[untold niche]

oh crate is the deployable>?

[potent echo]

vetearans

[untold niche]

that is very dumb dumb yeah

[potent echo]

i wish theres a command to take crates from people

sometimes they dont drop it

forgor

[mental grail]

I didn't know crates had charges lmao I just took that shit whenever, I am a terrible teammate

[plucky flax]

Exposed.

[potent echo]

you the one

[ornate hamlet]

nah your a great teammate, stick it to em

[formal hill]

Sometimes I shoot one shot and take all 4 charges

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-monkey-gif-21207902

[formal hill]

Not knowing there's charges is crazy, how long have you played?

[mental grail]

i actually don't know exactly, but like a couple hundred hours

lemme check

[formal hill]

Ain't no way dog

There's no way you haven't noticed or taken the last charge in several hundred hours, I'm pressing X

[untold niche]

i actually didn't know for sure, but i just assumed it had charges

i didn't want to risk a dumb dumb

[weary crane]

It's a shit mechanic

[mental grail]

bro I thought it was on a timer or something I didn't put much thought into it

[untold niche]

monkey very smart

https://tenor.com/view/run-afraid-gun-monkey-gif-15569301

[ornate hamlet]

i like that its charges, i hate that it isnt shown

[mental grail]

all I knew was ammo crate had ammo and I was gonna take it

[ornate hamlet]

lack of clearity in this game is everywhere and its stupid

[formal hill]

Like you've never seen someone put down the crate and all 4 of you take ammo at the same time and it dissapears

That's crazy

[ornate hamlet]

you need mods to understand whats going on

[weary crane]

It should be dependent on the percentage of ammo refilled into your gun

[ornate hamlet]

basic stuf

[mental grail]

187 hours, I just checked

[formal hill]

That's crazy

I thought everyone knew that

[ornate hamlet]

they dont tell you anything

[formal hill]

I figured it out in my first couple games, I figured everyone did

[mental grail]

in my defense, the game never told me anything lol

[plucky flax]

It's okay you is just a baby.

Keep taking crate I allow you.

[formal hill]

Well you're a psyker so I can understand it more, but if a vet said that it would actually blow my mind

[ornate hamlet]

i did too never knew it was exactly 4 though myself and i have 670 ish hours, i knew it was charges though

[untold niche]

have u guys ever seen an ogryn going down in first 5 minutes twice?

[ornate hamlet]

[plucky flax]

Yes it's me

[formal hill]

I really don't see Ogryn all that much anymore tbh

[untold niche]

me neither.

[formal hill]

Mainly Psykers Vets and Zealots where I play

[untold niche]

+347

[ornate hamlet]

eh could be drunk

really high

who knows

hes probably having fun

[formal hill]

Testing his build lmao

[mental grail]

I only play the space wizard

[ornate hamlet]

its me learning the bret sword and shield all over again

[formal hill]

The longsword fucked

Until they nerfed it sadge

[mental grail]

which class do you reckon has the smartest players? I think ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

the longsword was great, that shield was actually underused, i loved it

[ornate hamlet]

[mental grail]

ogryn players are all sages in my experience

[plucky flax]

@patent wing this was my 2nd attempt last night after you told me. First attempt I died to crusher overheard in the first minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqPas31348E

Chaos spawn very rude.

[formal hill]

I think the highest bell curve of players is Vet, it has the smartest and dumbest players, Ogryn are generally reliably aware

[vestal fulcrum]

Psykers or Zealots

Typically Zealots, but they also ironically have the most memed upon player archetypes

[mental grail]

I was going to say that vet players always seen to have good mechanical knowledge, but I just watched a vet repeatedly burn the shit out of himself with the plasma gun

[ornate hamlet]

i certanly wouldnt call psykers the smartest, i see way to many of you way to interested in a build that makes gameplay into spam f and surge

[mental grail]

yeah no, mainly because I play psyker and im not smart

[formal hill]

Psykers are reliably the dumbest for sure, but there's definitely good Psykers of course

If you see a Smiker who isn't doing a penance well, you know

I shouldn't say dumbest, least situationally aware

[ornate hamlet]

their the dumbest overall

then its vets

ogryn

and zealots win it

[mental grail]

I would consider zealots high knowledge, but their penances and builds sometimes make them act stupid

[formal hill]

Zealots are on an extreme, there's never a mediocre zealot

Either really good or really bad

Same with vet

[mental grail]

knife/backstab zealots are phenomenal, but very annoying to team with

[ornate hamlet]

all the bad zealots eventually go to vet

[mental grail]

vets have terrible crutches

they gotta get good at some point

[formal hill]

I think there's so many vets that it taints the water in general, everyone wants to be the sniper trope right

[mental grail]

yeah, they forget they have a melee weapon

[ornate hamlet]

to many vets who look at their class as the gunner class

[formal hill]

They're like "sniper? Sick radical dope" then play vet and never learn to play without braille

[ornate hamlet]

yeah this

[mental grail]

and end up screaming for ammo by the midpoint

[formal hill]

It's only made worse by the vets penances

Killing 2500 enemies after ten headshots is a real cock punch, it's so boring

[plucky flax]

Ogryn 5000 heavy hitter kills say hi.

[mental grail]

the amount of vets I see standing in the back only to get smacked by 3 poxwalkers that spawned behind them is comical

[plucky flax]

[formal hill]

That wasn't bad at all, use shield and you get it by playing normally

[plucky flax]

I hate playing heavy hitter. I just like fnp.

[formal hill]

Being forced to shoot into crowds is so uhhh

[plucky flax]

I dislike these penances that force keystone and aura upon the user.

[formal hill]

Mind boggling tedium

[mental grail]

psyker penances are all very easy except for like 2

[plucky flax]

Which is one of the reason why I prefer the old penances. You do something goofy but you do it once and it's over.

Like cliffhanger or gone bowling, etc.

[ornate hamlet]

unprivate malleus and psyker penanaces are fine

[mental grail]

ep smite got that penance done in like 2 hours

[formal hill]

Backstab 200 ranged enemies out of coherency!!!! being an asshole teamate is so fun!!!!

[candid dawn]

this is the 7th time i got archivum sycorax today

[warm oasis]

How do I go about the one that needs a private game? Do I need to find a team to do it with?

[mental grail]

malleus and the ledge one are tedious

[formal hill]

Ledge is easy on the right map

Did it by accident

[mental grail]

Other than that just play the game and you have all of them

[formal hill]

And when it was more than 7 too

[ornate hamlet]

the ledge one, is luck based but overall not bad

its what an achievement should be

i like that one

the bubble one is boring but not to bad

and screw smite

[vestal fulcrum]

This isn’t only tangible through the “asshole” spectrum

Sometimes killing things out of coherency is good/optimal, but what doesn’t make sense is that the game requires you to backstab these enemies

Loner has nothing going for it re: backstabs

If anything, it teaches players bad habits

[formal hill]

Well that's what I mean I have to go by myself and have setup time

[untold niche]

vibing to music score
242 disabled,downs,deaths 4

[formal hill]

And it's 200

Like 50 at most would be fine

[crude vortex]

still pretty okay...

[formal hill]

Heres me trying to get loner backstabs and every vet within a quarter mile wants to sniff my taint for some reason, like dog, I've been fine the whole game, go shoot a special or something lmaooo

These penances for sure 100% enforce a bit of a toxic playstyle in a few classes

[vestal fulcrum]

With how some of them are designed, certainly they do give off that impression in players attempting to complete them

Loner and Shroudfield penances are egregious

Frag bomb for Ogryn and Krak grenades for Vet are also far from perfect

[formal hill]

Leaving coherency is fine in general, you don't need to be that close in general, but the backstabs make it bad

Frag bombs incentivize Ogryn to take the entire ammo pack if a vet has field improv

[ornate hamlet]

and they should

[formal hill]

Well that's what I mean, it rewards people to do things that would potentially take away from the enjoyment of others

If not to a large degree

I feel like FS kinda had to be aware of that making these penances

Or the QA testers

[ornate hamlet]

no its lack of awareness or care, these are just stamp out missions.... kill 2500 under X conditions, use Y ability and have said things happen 250 times, block 2500 dmg.....

they just picked a number

and 2500 was one of them

[formal hill]

Yeah I know, but like idk how we waited 6 months for it

Attribute not to malice what you can to incompetence and all that

[ornate hamlet]

yeah and they gave you 5 minutes of effort

the people who made the penances

[untold niche]

inb4 crafting rework = spend 20k plasteel for one unlock

[formal hill]

I also feel like not letting us fully customize weapons freely is a bit malicious to add playtime that wouldn't be there otherwise, but the problem is, good weapons are more fun, having to suffer isn't

[ornate hamlet]

they came at this game with a mobile game mentality, and i will never recommend this game to anyone because of it

its one of the reasons my friends who where enjoying vermintide didnt try darktide, i told them its the worst parts of an mmo rpg, none of the story and horrible performance, and slightly better combat

[formal hill]

Well not exactly, I mean they said it was going to be live service to justify patching it into a working state, only reason I say that is because well, we aren't getting the content updates any live service game does, new factions maps, scenarios, nor do we pay subscription

[untold niche]

live service = shitty generic skins every 3 weeks

[long wharf]

FartShack calling Darktide a live service game was fattest ball of bullshit they've ever said

[formal hill]

Like I get it, it's a business and investors and all, but the gaming community as whole appreciates transparency is more valued than meeting dates

[long wharf]

FartShack never had the ability to regularly deliver content, nor keep in constant communication with the playerbase

[formal hill]

Well I knew that, and everyone who played VT knew that before the game launched

FS has a glacial record for dev time, but even though the content was "less complete" as in broken, VT2 still had more meaningful content updates and DLCs in the same dev time

Even though there's technically more maps to launch with, they're just the same map with a different path, not entirely new scenery like VT2

[ornate hamlet]

VT2 was broken, but darktide was squandered and gatcha mess and you cant even reliably select what map you play

its hard to say they compare, similar sure, different levels though

[formal hill]

Or modifiers, which are less diverse too

[ornate hamlet]

darktide is far worse

[plucky flax]

Bring back twins.

Twins modifier I mean.

[formal hill]

I really do like darktide honestly, passionately, which is why I feel strongly about it, it's just unfortunate to see it go down the same road as every other 40k game the "it had potential" pile

[paper lily]

they weren't really difficult in mission tho

[formal hill]

They were something new that wasn't reskinned enemies

I don't care about difficulty as I do about something really new

It's been a few years of fighting the same faction with different skin on

[ornate hamlet]

i do to, their killing this game with the lack of quality of life though, the gameplay sure its great when it works... however it hardly offbalances the amount of time it takes to get weapons that shake up gameplay, or the ability to play different maps

its why i have 670 ish hours and dont recommend this game, sure its fun but its tarkov fun

[formal hill]

I've noticed in modern L4D style games the specials are cancer

Tanks and do a lot of damage and move fast

[ornate hamlet]

kinda have to be, we are overpowered

[formal hill]

Gunners do a shit load of damage and stun you from moving

[paper lily]

670 hours and not recommending is kind of a meme tho

there are very few games that will reward your money for that much time

[formal hill]

The punishment for being shot is death, not low hp like in VT you know? Like the game is objectively harder by anyone who played it to a high level but the specials were easy to deal with

[ornate hamlet]

i dont say no either, i just say eh

[paper lily]

it's a good experience

[ornate hamlet]

like here is what it is

[formal hill]

Not really, he loves the game but doesn't like the direction it's going

[paper lily]

that's fine but i think your average gamer can easily pull 200 hrs out of the game

[ornate hamlet]

no

[formal hill]

It's not about hours, it's about the quality of them

[ornate hamlet]

your avg gamer is putting in maybe 10 hours of being confused and going back to cod

horrible experience

[formal hill]

I'd rather play a 20 hour story and love the game, like the Witcher games, rather than 200 hours of something because 50 of it was grinding to even enjoy it

[paper lily]

ngl i think the game is pretty fun on the onset

[formal hill]

Which could be easily resolved in darktide

[ornate hamlet]

did you also play vt2

[paper lily]

people got gripes about the crafting but the truth is you don't need godtier 50 combat knife

no i played vt1

[ornate hamlet]

you still understood the game

imagine having no in or friend and trying dt

[paper lily]

was still a beginner in vt1 and i don't think the learning curve was that awful

[formal hill]

You're right a good player can make anything work but most people feel like if you don't have good gear, then why even try, which is something you have to address

[paper lily]

i'm not a fair test case tho

[ornate hamlet]

yeah neither am i

[paper lily]

i think that's a bit of generalization

most people, who is most people?

[formal hill]

There's a reason darktide has a similar playercount to vt2

[paper lily]

because they're both good games

[formal hill]

It's the people I see in here

It's a common sentiment in new players

Asking for help with gear because they need it for higher difficulties

[paper lily]

the reality is those players are gonna die with god gear anyway

[ornate hamlet]

which should say alot about the game struggling to teach anything, they recently added more to the tutorial recently i believe but it was bad

[formal hill]

You're right but that doesn't change the issue

The issue is players not wanting to grind for hours and hours and hours for a shitty craft system designed to make you grind

[ornate hamlet]

people play wow

[formal hill]

Which is imo a big issue in darktide

[paper lily]

sure but the main game is still fun gear or not

some people attach fun to difficulty, many do not

[formal hill]

I agree with you, and I love darktide

Which is why I'm passionate about it

[upper sun]

people play the game because its fun not to grind gear

[ornate hamlet]

crafting sucks, not the biggest issue

i hate it

want it gone

[upper sun]

gear if anything is causing more issues to player retention

[ornate hamlet]

but this game has issues

spawns rarely work

[formal hill]

It's the biggest, easily resolved issue is what I should have said

[upper sun]

too few maps spawns breaking random dcs

[ornate hamlet]

yeah its easily solved

[upper sun]

being really picky with hardware

[formal hill]

Well yeah this patch caused 15fps-tide

[upper sun]

being unoptimized as hell

[paper lily]

that was just their shader cache

xbox different story

[formal hill]

Was?

[paper lily]

once you play a few games it doesn't happen anymore, at all

[upper sun]

ye after a few missions it fixes itself

[formal hill]

I play with people that crash twice a mission for 10 missions in a row

[paper lily]

they're on pc?

[formal hill]

Probably optimization related tbh

Yes

[paper lily]

guarantee it's their mods

[upper sun]

yeah its also picky with hardware and its unoptimized

[paper lily]

this game doesn't crash for shit with no mods

[plucky flax]

Guy was impressed I did so much boss damage at twins on psyker.

[paper lily]

it is very rare

[formal hill]

I don't use mode and still crash

[upper sun]

also the mods too people dont update mods correctly

[formal hill]

Mods

[upper sun]

steam verification doesnt do shit to mods if you install them manually

[formal hill]

And I just built a new computer however, new Nvidia drivers tend to suck

For new cards

Either way, you would think this stuff would be addressed in a timely manner

Unlocking crafting so you can do it freely seems pretty you know, not time consuming

[paper lily]

well, they're already doing that so there's no point talking about it

the crashing thing though, i don't buy that people are crashing modless twice a mission

that's absolutely hyperbole, or they are playing on toasters

[formal hill]

We'll see what they actually do

No it's certainly literal, it's just bad optimization

[paper lily]

now i wanna see their crash logs

[formal hill]

I'll ask them next time they on

[quartz barn]

or their specs

[formal hill]

No clue of their specs

[paper lily]

your mates are absolutely out of the norm for crashing, esp modless

[quartz barn]

because if you crash that often something is wrong with their setup

[paper lily]

the game does crash very occasionally but you got something fucked up if its 2x a mission

don't think it's fair to knock them for that

[formal hill]

I personally crash every other mission or so, but like I said probably just the Nvidia drivers

[quartz barn]

hell even with mods you dont crash that often

only happens if they're outdated

[plucky flax]

I get out of memory error a lot because of my humungous inventory.

[paper lily]

did u add the flag to ur launch options

[quartz barn]

flag?

[paper lily]

cuz ur shit is modded to hell

there's a flag to double the lua heap

[upper sun]

clean ur iventory

[plucky flax]

Lazy.

[upper sun]

auto sell anything lower than 360

[quartz barn]

group salvage when

[formal hill]

Oh does that actually cause memory crashes

Well shit

[paper lily]

--lua-heap-mb-size 2048

add that to launch options

[formal hill]

-del-sys-32

[plucky flax]

Wel lonly if you go to inventory.

If you don't go there it's fine.

But if you go to inventory it will crash.

[formal hill]

I was going to say I probably have Like max inventory tbh

[quartz barn]

lol

[formal hill]

I don't think I've sold a weapon since Beta

[quartz barn]

do you spam buy greys?

[formal hill]

Yep

[upper sun]

[formal hill]

Usually not spam, I'm pretty lucky with rolls

Usually get a god roll in under 10

[upper sun]

[quartz barn]

ye kinda doubt that

[formal hill]

Ok

[upper sun]

do it rn

film it

[formal hill]

Alright

[upper sun]

with a timestamp in a text file in the video

[formal hill]

Ok

[quartz barn]

370+ 4/4 is rare af

[upper sun]

deimos 79 dam 79 first target minimum finesse above 70

[paper lily]

think they mean per pack of greys

not hadron fucked

[formal hill]

Well okay, not all 80's but 75+ in all but dump stat

[upper sun]

sure

sounds good

[formal hill]

I consider that God roll but I realize nomenclature is different

[upper sun]

took me 1mil for that shit as well

if it works im kidnapping you to roll shit for me

[formal hill]

I get those occasionally

I had to spend 7 mil to roll a good shield

[plucky flax]

I don't have a single god roll weapon.

[formal hill]

I don't really roll weapons until the penance update, I just used one kit and enjoyed it

[ornate hamlet]

my deimos is getting close

thats it

my catachan 4 on vet maybe

i never play him

[plucky flax]

Good luck

[ornate hamlet]

ranald hates me im not getting a god roll deimos

but ive got a servicable one

and thats all i want

[paper lily]

i have many good weapons

good enough, at least

[ornate hamlet]

yeah good enough

like maybe mk3 traits or slightly unoptimal stats

not perfect but still do the job

[rigid sky]

So I'm down to 2-3 matches per week atm

And I've totally lost the ability to win

Not sure if randos are getting worse or if I am

Or if the game's gotten harder

[paper lily]

they've changed the director a bit

randoms are worse

i still win about the same % i think

[plucky flax]

You will never finish a maelstrom with the same 4 players now.

Ass chasers too gud

[paper lily]

not taking an L cuz u lost, pathetic

tbf u can usually tell whos gonna be dipping in the ready screen

[plucky flax]

[paper lily]

i wish there was an always on 30m auric maelstrom that had 5 modifiers constantly

[fathom totem]

@plucky flax Did you do the head pokes with kinetic pres. Just trying to figure out details on my part as well.

[eager token]

lost another 8 streak auric run

barrels

[plucky flax]

Kinetic what?

And what do you mean?

[eager token]

i must become 100% barrel phobic

[plucky flax]

No I use cdr aura. Also that aura doesn't increase special damage no?

[fathom totem]

Ah right. Mutie is a special.

Hmm.

I tried again. And let the stacks of uncanny and shred run off before I did a head shot again. But still does it. Not sure where all the crit is coming from.

[plucky flax]

Crit god

[upper sun]

does anyone here have a zealot called for-the-emperah?

they were pretty good

[sacred crane]

Ah, the keystone nobody uses besides for a penanace

[plucky flax]

Sounds like ForTheMaster wannabe.

[upper sun]

🤔 idk they were pretty good unlike that noob

[plucky flax]

ForTheMaster

[zinc abyss]

why is assail so OP? it makes staves pointless

[rigid sky]

It kinda doesn't though

[eager token]

man i find assail underwhelming compared to shriek or just smite-tapping

[rigid sky]

It's strong but limited

Only works on certain targets

[zinc abyss]

assail recharges so fast and basically 1 shots hordes making charging up staves pointless

[rigid sky]

So if you take an antihorde staff that lets you take a different blitz

And if you take anti elite stuff instead then usually your staff will kill elites better than Assail

[zinc abyss]

which staves are good for elites?

[rigid sky]

Void and Surge are designed for them

Trauma also does pretty well

Guns also

The other two blitzes are also great btw

And they allow access to psychinetic aura which is really strong

[eager token]

just trauma everything

[zinc abyss]

Why don't player pyskers get possessed or turn into daemons?

[hidden crystal]

Because that would be a complete recipe for griefing your team.

While, yes, it would be lore accurate, it would be detrimental to the gameplay - and we can't pretend the game play is exactly lore accurate.

A team of four guardsmen, regardless of their experience and skill level, could not reasonably be expected to slaughter their way through two thousand enemies in the lore.

[lethal lagoon]

Thats always the AOE size
85% (technically 83.3) is for 6 stacks of soulblaze

[eager token]

you mean 4 crack heads taking down entire battallions of baddies isn't lore accurate

smh

[upper sun]

"repeating ofc"

[lethal lagoon]

Actually I don't think so

[upper sun]

🤔

🤔 (but in caps)

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea, I'm just disagreeable.

[upper sun]

i think ur a bad person

[hidden crystal]

Indeed. Power-wise, what the player characters do is more on the tier of what you might expect from Astartes.

There's obviously some flexibility in the lore for the sake of the game play.

[plucky flax]

I'm unsanctioned alpha level psyker.

[eager token]

do people still run twins hardmode

[upper sun]

yes

[eager token]

i never got that emblem thing

[plucky flax]

I can help if you need.

[upper sun]

but not very successfully took me 8 attempts in pubs

(the secret was tag pgun psword vet) very balanced and skill based class

[eager token]

maybe this weekend i'll ping if i'm playing thank you though

i have damnation done but did a couple tries on hardmode with randoms and just never got it lol

[lethal lagoon]

He brushed you off because you are just a mid malice player

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

he should ask that for-the-emperah guy hes very good

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, it's plausible that some psykers or ogryns could reasonably reach that power level, but grumpy guardsmen and overenthusiastic preachers... less so.

[upper sun]

zealots unironically can be counted as saints

i think praying hard enough that you go invisible makes you a saint

[plucky flax]

Zealot can be pretty strong I agree. Although some cracked super enhanced guardman with bio optic (volley fire) can do some work too.

Or you know, just pee shout and win.

Like that one comissar dude from the lore?

Cain or something.

[hidden crystal]

Anyway, Melk actually had something good today, an Illisi on 379 with no horrible dumpstat, and T3 on Flak Damage and Deflector where I could then swap in Slaughterer and Maniac damage over the rest. Now to decide if it's actually better than my current one...

(New one left, old one right)

[upper sun]

🤔 are we sure vets arent psykers too? shouting hard enough that you regenerate toughness for your team doesnt seem to be in most training manuals

[plucky flax]

I think it's more like morale.

[upper sun]

right has numbers in all the right places

[plucky flax]

Shout hard to lift fighting spirits.

[upper sun]

so vets just gaslight people into feeling better seems pretty based to me

[jovial juniper]

It would be effective with the others soldiers because that's what they have been conditioned to

[rigid sky]

Faith in the Emperor can translate into actual miracles

[weary crane]

If I was fighting with david goggins and he screams WHOS GON CARRY THE BOATS you're right I'll get toughness

[rigid sky]

And faith in your unit too

[hidden crystal]

There is something to be said for the lower warp res to stack up toughness, damage reduction and damage (at least on my current build), although getting to use more charged attacks would have its plus. (And, although it's not a huge difference, the extra level of Slaughterer).

[plucky flax]

If angry cadian man shout at me I'll be fighting with full strength too. Wouldn't dare to answer back.

[formal hill]

Leave none Alive

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-meme-the-indomitable-human-spirit-indomitable-human-spirit-human-spirit-gif-17469545579701399285

Heretics seeing my 500,000-0 kd ratio

[formal hill]

Yeah I'm curious about the lore behind our losses

[upper sun]

we never lose

[formal hill]

Do we just get teleported out or what

[plucky flax]

Plenty of rejects on the ship.

They just die and get recycle with a new batch.

[upper sun]

you only lose when you delete your char

[formal hill]

There's like a few thousand on most navy ships, but how many look, sound, speak, and have the same EXACT experiences as one another

There has to be some reason

Unless there just isn't

[upper sun]

yes

theres a lot of heretics on atoma

they need a lot of rejects

prolly until empire sends in some real troops if at all

[rigid sky]

Quantum immortality innit

[formal hill]

All the famous Cadian rejects

Of the non existent planet

[upper sun]

🤔 hold on

[cold ivy]

It's just so the game works as a game - you'd think the heretics would stop sending all their captains on trains to this one specific station after we murdered the first 1000 or so

[upper sun]

HOLD ON

[mental grail]

lore/gameplay break

[upper sun]

didnt cadia fall like 1000 years before roboute guilliman coming back

[formal hill]

I know there's creative liberties taken lmao, I just like fucking with people, lore only exists to sell models

[mental grail]

there a lot of people in grendyls warband considering every cosmetic bundle character is a fellow operative

[hearty dagger]

To be fair we literally redirect a train there, they don't really choose to go there

[formal hill]

We also aren't a reject anymore after hitting 30 we're called acolytes for a reason

[upper sun]

Cadia fell January 2017. Guilliman returned March 2017

nvm

[formal hill]

I do wish it was more noticeable

[upper sun]

im wrong

[mental grail]

"Cadia fell"

More like crumbling like a cookie dipped in milk

[upper sun]

CADIA STANDS

[formal hill]

Reminds me of when the DT servers crashed and everyone spammed the discord "Server Broke Before the Guard did" god that was so fucking funny

[hearty dagger]

Shit still took a blackstone fortress (me giving it a big nom) to destroy

[upper sun]

need a cadian zealot who only communicates through grunts

[radiant frigate]

what about reloading ranged weapons by spilling blood in melee

how did the bullet get there

explain this

[hearty dagger]

I just saw the stupidest zealot play ever siblings holy shit

[upper sun]

weapon spec is not cannon

[hearty dagger]

Revved eviscerator chastise the wicked into a poxburster

[mental grail]

cadia floats in more pieces than the guardsmen who fought on it

[upper sun]

u better sleep with one eye open tonight

[formal hill]

Well actually Cadia is now a different planet that was resettled

So I mean

[mental grail]

"Cadia is an idea"

[formal hill]

Gotta sell them models baby

They're also really strong HQ units so I mean it'd be a sin to take them away

[upper sun]

the hammer and bolter episode about cadia went pretty hard tbh

[formal hill]

God I wish we were smashing some unnamed space marines

We have an Ogryn, Psyker, Plasma gun, krak grenades, TH

We could do it expz

[upper sun]

im pretty sure one chaos marine would fuck us up

[plucky flax]

Yeah our rejects can take on a lone chaos marine easy.

[formal hill]

Nono

[mental grail]

maybe, but I like ignoring space marines

[plucky flax]

No way dude wtf.

We are so freaking strong.

Marine is scared of psyker.

[formal hill]

We'd shit on a space marine

[upper sun]

🤔

[formal hill]

The Ogryn would shit on a new blood space marine

[upper sun]

ok maybe the psykers can do a couple of BBs before getting bolted

[formal hill]

That's a veteran bone'aed ogrn

[mental grail]

the setting gets to breathe more with the astartes gone

[upper sun]

vets would get smashed

zealots flatened

ogryns have their heads blown off

[formal hill]

One krak grenade will kill a space marine

[mental grail]

we can kill a chaos spawn, we can kill an astartes

[formal hill]

We can kill a Daemon Host

Way way way way scarier

[upper sun]

they die with in an hour or two of being born

[calm sapphire]

Correction: only 10% of us can

[mental grail]

I forgot about that lmao

[plucky flax]

You overestimate space marine. They are good against normal militarum but not roided up rejects.

[formal hill]

In lore you can't even kill a Daemon host you have to learn it's true name to banish it

That's how strong we are lmao

[mental grail]

ogryn are have higher strength than standard astartes on tt, no?

[plucky flax]

Tbf we don't kill the hosts.

They just go back to the warp.

[formal hill]

With significant ease yes

[plucky flax]

You see them cast the portal then they go through.

[formal hill]

Ogryn can range from 10-12 feet tall about Primarch height

We actually have rather small Ogryn

[radiant frigate]

"nah, i'd win" mindset

[mental grail]

banishing a whole daemonhost is higher diff than killing one (1) csm

[formal hill]

I mean everyone likes to look at lore, but I extend this friends, lore SOLELY exists to sell tabletop models, so realistically tabletop is a better measure of genuine unbiased power, as in not biased from the observer

[upper sun]

they keep teasing us with lines about space marines and sisters of battle maybe well get to fight one at somepoint

[radiant frigate]

10k year old master duelist vs. one ogryn with a shovel

[mental grail]

you can, you just have to have fucking insane power to do so

[radiant frigate]

ogryn clears easy

[cold ivy]

"Bolter fire raked towards him, striking the hulking abhuman, who grimaced in pain. Chunks of flesh were torn from its arms and chest, but the three metre creature that dwarfed even the Terminators did not slow. It lowered a shoulder and smashed into one of the enemy, knocking it from its feet. Raising the butt of its heavy ripper gun, the ogryn began caving in the helmet of the fallen warrior, smashing it down onto the prone traitor again and again..."

It's canon that an ogryn can kill a chaos terminator 1 on 1, literally just 2-shot that guy

[plucky flax]

Terminator marine?

[formal hill]

Yeah, I mean, Ogryn would tear apart a space marine in melee and even happens in lore, deciding to get to melee with an Ogryn is like throwing your parachute out of a plane before you jump

[upper sun]

what can an ogryn do? ||WHATEVER THE AUTHER SAYS||

[mental grail]

I remember one trying to kill eisenhorn after breaking containment and a fucking host of heavy gun batteries fucking obliterate it

[plucky flax]

Those suits kinda strong tho.

[upper sun]

ogryns are very weird in the lore they abilities and strength are kinda inconsistent

[mental grail]

us 4 >>>>> heavy gun turrets

[mental grail]

to be fair they are fucking stupid as shit

[plucky flax]

I doubt ogryn can 1v1 a marine + terminator suit.

But maybe it's the infamous grey ogryn.

[jovial juniper]

[formal hill]

It's because like I said, lore is 2 things, biased from the point of the observer and exists to push models, which is why I say, look at tabletop stats if you want a realistic view, because you remove the lens of biased observer

[upper sun]

i think thats a marvel thing

[radiant frigate]

[upper sun]

hey like i said before 40k lore is whatever i say it us

[formal hill]

Fair

[radiant frigate]

everything is canon

[upper sun]

also nothing

[formal hill]

If it sells models sure

[radiant frigate]

pissed off psyker explodes a marine's head in one cast

[mental grail]

scriers gaze columnus mag-dump into scab stalker energy

[formal hill]

Plastic Crack baby

[formal hill]

Technically speaking the emperor is a human psyker, as was malcador and malcador could've easily killed horus in his one exchange

Speaking of inconsistent, psyker power level

Either they can barely move a cup or cannon a space marine into orbit

[radiant frigate]

honestly i think the scab traitor captains clear a space marine easy

[formal hill]

They could barely clear a paper bag

Let's be honest

3 crushers are scarier

[radiant frigate]

they take many many headsplosions

[jovial juniper]

Seems about right

[plucky flax]

The twins are strong. But the regular scab guy at assassination mission gets bonked by 4 rejects.

[formal hill]

Twins are only scary because dick face has literal space marine aim

While his sister has a tantrum

-Cannon btw

Speaking of, literally everyone we fight doesn't miss a shot, I literally don't know how a space marine could be any more accurate than that

[ornate hamlet]

take snipers, remove the warning and time between shots.

pretty scarry

[formal hill]

So you mean normal for me

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna join twins hm? I'm helping some dudes.

We need 1 more.

[formal hill]

What difficulty

Special?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[formal hill]

Are you all psykers

[plucky flax]

2 psykers and 1 ogryn atm.

[formal hill]

Oh God

And I haven't even played a single game today

[ornate hamlet]

2 weirdos and 1 big man with shovel

[formal hill]

Yeah sure give me a minute to turn on my pc

[plucky flax]

A random join now. If we fail I'll let you know.

[ornate hamlet]

lmao

[formal hill]

Alright lmk

[ornate hamlet]

the pc may go back to rest

[formal hill]

I got penances to do either way

Just got home from work tho

[ornate hamlet]

eh abitary and dumb achievements

[formal hill]

Muh blue armor

[ornate hamlet]

more about time spent playing rather than anything impressive

or cool

[formal hill]

Got to expand the dad lore

[radiant frigate]

unless we dodge

[formal hill]

it would have to be the same for space marines game mechanic wise or it'd be unfun

[ornate hamlet]

simple dont add space marines

[formal hill]

we could crump em ezpz

[ornate hamlet]

have to

[formal hill]

emprah wills it

[ornate hamlet]

or else gameplay sucks

[plucky flax]

Sry mate another guy joined the lfg.

[upper sun]

we could totally 4v1 the emperor

[ornate hamlet]

[formal hill]

Well I mean, like realistically they'd be less sturdy than an Ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

redact that

[plucky flax]

I was the only one doing damage the last round.

[ornate hamlet]

inquisitor

[upper sun]

I am making a simple comment to showcase the wrongness of the points made here

[formal hill]

I've never been a fan of the space marine dick ride tbh, having plot armor thicker than a tanks armor makes me no like them

[upper sun]

saying that you can slay the grandsons of the emperor is as heretical as saying you can slay the emperor himself

[formal hill]

other than that the emperor did it himself

alot

[upper sun]

big armor good

[upper sun]

emperor should just die so he can be reborn and start the whole crusades again

THERE I SAID IT

[formal hill]

apparently still weaker than thunder warriors who put up and expectedly massive fight

against the best space marine legion too

and custodes

[upper sun]

are thunder warriors some sort of mid legion i'm not aware of?

[ornate hamlet]

no

[formal hill]

30k lore

[upper sun]

OHHHHH

[ornate hamlet]

they are the space marines before spacemarines

[upper sun]

the ones emperor made before

yeah

[short jasper]

is dumdum still bugged and gives overall damage instead of close range?

[upper sun]

idk

[formal hill]

basically the Ogryn of space marines

bigger stronger faster, dumber, but nopower armor

[upper sun]

sorry i got most of my horus heresy lore in one 100 hour playlist in one week

[ornate hamlet]

they where how far you could push a person not caring if they where stable (with surgery and stuff, not like the assassin filled with every drug known to man)

[formal hill]

it's some of the best most fleshed out lore

[upper sun]

it all got mixed together

yeah it was some good shit

[formal hill]

Was going to say technically lucifer blacks are the best of humankind

they even stabbed alpharius in a fair fight 1v1

according to alpharius of course

[upper sun]

🤔

[ornate hamlet]

of course and its a lie

or is it

[upper sun]

now who knows if it was the real one cmon

[formal hill]

I believe it tbh

[upper sun]

checks out

[ornate hamlet]

maybe

[upper sun]

i believe it

[ornate hamlet]

you're neither right nor wrong

perhaps it happened

[upper sun]

yuore*

[formal hill]

primarchs are mostly so unbelivably cocky, that even he said he assumed it to be like any other slaughter

meanwhile it was the best humankind could ever achivee

[ornate hamlet]

i get what your trying to say

[formal hill]

Plus alpharius is dogshit as well

In melee

Got killed in a single attack lmao

[radiant frigate]

imagine like a reaper but carapace everywhere

[formal hill]

So really not that scary

[ornate hamlet]

and every bullet one shot, and they had auto aim

[formal hill]

They do

[ornate hamlet]

like much more agressive

the slides wouldnt save you

[formal hill]

Sure it would, regular dipshits beat space marines even in lore

[ornate hamlet]

it takes alot though

[formal hill]

Especially CSM who don't have any training at all, or pshyco indoctrination of regular space marines

[ornate hamlet]

would our 4 irreqular dipshits do it, maybe once

on the 40th attempt

[radiant frigate]

suddenly psyker bubble is good

[ornate hamlet]

Wait since when did CSM have no training

[ornate hamlet]

[radiant frigate]

yeah since when

that is news to me

[ornate hamlet]

maybe the emperors children arnt training and instead doing much much worse things....

but CSM are still marines

[upper sun]

OK im up to 1 mill again

what should i spend 300k on?

more surge staves right?

[jovial juniper]

Tactical axes

[upper sun]

nooooooo

[ornate hamlet]

[upper sun]

im gonna buy more surges i need my fix

first 10 trash only one above 369 and dam as dump

400k down lets see hadron

[jovial juniper]

Hmmm

[plucky flax]

Bit low charge rate but by the 4th cast should be okay.

[inner pilot]

whats the best staff

oither then purg

[plucky flax]

Not blaze trauma. It's the worst.

[upper galleon]

a lot of the EC can be combat perfectionists

[neon steppe]

Void all day everyday

[upper sun]

gents

we have a success

[ornate hamlet]

yeah, and a lot of them serv slanesh

[inner pilot]

ok wel

what staff does what aiblity

surge does da fire

[weary crane]

With my purg build I get 1000 kills per game lol

[inner pilot]

das cuase its hordeclear

[upper galleon]

no

[inner pilot]

purg

i mean purg

surge deos the

glowey

EXPLOSION

KERBLEW

[upper galleon]

purge = fire, surge= lightning, void= charge bolts, trauma= area explosion

no

beb please

[inner pilot]

fuck surge!!

i dont know ur big words pal

i headpop da elite

i burn da betas

simple as

[eager token]

i wish i enjoyed surge

maybe i'll give it a shot again

[upper sun]

cant check the fucking trapper no crit point because every hit a crit jesus

[inner pilot]

can void one shot bulwarks

[ornate hamlet]

purg= burn baby burn, surge= limited power, voidstrike= bowling ball, trauma= giant circle of butter floor

[thorn cedar]

surge is boring by design tbh

[upper galleon]

idk if it can now tbh

[eager token]

surge just feels not good to me idk why

[thorn cedar]

some people super dig it but in the end it's just a very low risk staff with crowd control functionality

[eager token]

it feels poopy compared to the other staves

[upper galleon]

surge yea, it's been rough

[clear bridge]

How could it be better crowd control than Purgatus?

[formal hill]

I meant that plug into matrix training they do, and the qaulity of recruits is literally anyone who's genetically acceptable

[thorn cedar]

it's one of those weapons in the game where you genuinely cant tell the difference between someone with 30 minutes of surge experience vs. 300hrs

[plucky flax]

This is flurry 3. It's sadly bricked and needs to be deleted.

[upper galleon]

it's supposed to be single target anti armor weapon but it doesn't have the damage to compete with void staff

[upper galleon]

what crowd control lol

[thorn cedar]

da zappy lock

well i guess 'crowd' is doing work but

[eager token]

😭

[thorn cedar]

the term is the term

[upper galleon]

it's single target CC

fuck

crowd is there

u right

[plucky flax]

Surge poopy same category as blaze trauma. Pls buff

[upper galleon]

surge they should just give half the buff the smite bug gave, and make it baseline

[eager token]

am i just using it wrong

also i need the critical peril sound effect to be like half volume

[plucky flax]

I dunno I don't do anything with it too. I think it's the staff.

[thorn cedar]

idk Surge should be like, you charge it, and when you shoot it, it locks into what you're aiming to, and then you shift your view to where you want the big fuck-off chain of lightning to end

[plucky flax]

Hopefully buff.

[ornate hamlet]

[eager token]

i love blaze trauma

[thorn cedar]

right now it's just a staff with zero interactivity

[plucky flax]

Same but it's bad.

[upper sun]

damn better spend another 400k

[upper galleon]

idk

[thorn cedar]

they can do w/e they want with 'buffing' or 'nerfing' it but as a baseline it's just borrrrrring

[upper sun]

trapper no crit one tap is at ~19% peril

[upper galleon]

i use it with smite for the flavor and just use it for single target enemies I don't want to melee

[upper sun]

this is "ok"

[plucky flax]

They should keep the same damage profile but increase chains to pre 13 surge.

[ornate hamlet]

turn it into the lazer from vt2

done

[clear bridge]

What's Blaze Trauma

[plucky flax]

So like 7 or 8 targets.

[thorn cedar]

beeeaaaaaaaam

[upper galleon]

the only good thing about it is that it charges really quick

[ornate hamlet]

it may be a beam but im still calling it a lazer

burn out my foe's retinas

[upper sun]

🤔 good staff tbh

[eager token]

maybe i become a voidstrike gamer now

[upper sun]

i can either to flak elites for gunner one tap or flak maniac for trapper one tap

[clear bridge]

Bro Voidstrike is cracked

Been loving it ever since I got better at headshots

[ornate hamlet]

too cracked

kill it

[upper galleon]

swap flurry for nexus so you proc surge

if not, swap surge to transfer peril

[true lake]

warp flurry instead of warp nexus?

bold

[clear bridge]

...Probably too cracked, but as someone only ~30 games into psyker it's so goooood

[eager token]

i have this one too but eh

[upper sun]

um we dont do weakspot damage around these parts

[ornate hamlet]

yeah its good for now, just please eventually grow bored of it

[patent wing]

nice one.
few things: ur lmb firerate is much higher than mine idk why
you dont quell to 60 but more 70/80
knife attack pattern h1l1? (if not spamming special)

you kite upstairs most of the time and not in the tunnels

specials outline is op too

also pls send pics of staff

[upper galleon]

sorry misread

[true lake]

with extra crit chance which is what warp nexus gives

lol

you good

[eager token]

im crazy with the headshots sorry

[upper sun]

you know how weakspot is calculated right?

[upper galleon]

weakspot damage is shit

the perk

it's calculated poorly

[eager token]

no i just wanted synergy for quell peril

[upper galleon]

that doesn't help

your synergy

[clear bridge]

I grew bored of kickback and Skullbreaker Ogryn, so don't you worry, I'll move on one day

[upper sun]

its a lot weaker than you'd think

[upper galleon]

[eager token]

pepehands

[ornate hamlet]

straight to plasma power sword vet

[true lake]

man likes his heavy hitters, cant blame him

[ornate hamlet]

he really likes power

[eager token]

swap weakspot to what on this then ya think

[upper sun]

whatever you want maniac/unyielding/elite/ all reasonable options

[upper galleon]

my void staff has crit chance unyielding but that's just cause i like bullying monstros with surge blessing, i know i'd be better off with maniac, elite, flak, cara etc etc

[clear bridge]

Oi! Give me some credit

Bolter power sword vet

[plucky flax]

I use quell cancel technique to shoot left click fast.
I edge at 70/80 for warp nexus 4, so more crit chance for more blaze blasts.
Knife is just whatever I use it for movement mostly. Push attack spam against monster/crusher.
I duuno upstairs is more open and feel better for kiting for me.

[clear bridge]

...Nah but fr, my vet is only level 22

[ornate hamlet]

Oi! oh i havent heard that since bardin, please tell me you also used the trollhammer torpedo

[clear bridge]

I've got time before I need to move on to more interesting things

[patent wing]

how does it work for lmb

i only use it for rmb

[clear bridge]

Trollhammer torpedo? Is that a VT2 thing or charge with Thunder Hammer?

[ornate hamlet]

vt2

its a cannon that shoots a nuke

[plucky flax]

Left click, press r, repeat. Quick demonstration here along with blitz cancel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1231660725143994519/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_5.mp4?ex=663fad70&is=663e5bf0&hm=c15f50acb348ff25c84a294d0151125bb3f4f747324012ddc83a8ce83759829f&

[paper lily]

the timing is pretty particular for lmb cancel

[plucky flax]

Well not 'r' but whatever your quell button is. Mine is r.

[patent wing]

are u using a makro

[clear bridge]

!!!! It would appear I need to play more vt2

[patent wing]

because that looks stresful

[ornate hamlet]

its a dlc weapon, so when you catch it on sale

[upper sun]

the emperor is personally fucking with me right now

[patent wing]

btw the little diamonds in the spidey sense are inbuilt? they are kinda helpful. and what do you use to outline specials

[ornate hamlet]

what you get for being a psyker

[plucky flax]

Mfw watching a movie and getting pinged.

Jk it's fine. It's new version of spidey sense.

Download it then go to mod option, there's a new option for it.

I enable it for trapper and dog cos they are dangerous.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/255

To change tagging outline. I like green the best they seem to stand out more.

[clear bridge]

Pick up that surge staff - one day there might be a rework!

[patent wing]

my record is 15-16 minutes so i guess thats still ok since you at least double my playtime :3

[upper galleon]

no

[plucky flax]

Pls no flame I am veri bad.

[upper sun]

im a class A hoarder ofc ill pick it up

i even have god rolled recons

random 375+s with dump stats in every slot

[clear bridge]

Same dude

Got a couple Krourk stubbers

[upper sun]

i got man-stopper from a random 380 shotgun with damage as the dump stat

i didnt even know it was rare

[lethal lagoon]

I hate your staff

[upper sun]

its actually very bad +4 crit? unplayable

[plucky flax]

Imagine not changing it to +5. I would never.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

😤

[upper sun]

jokes aside imagine the uproar if they add new blessings without changing the crafting system

[ornate hamlet]

i dont have any emojis of a dude with a torch and or pitchfork

[lethal lagoon]

Stop waiting for blazing spirit 4, change it now

[ornate hamlet]

O.o

[ornate hamlet]

actual space magic

[plucky flax]

I think(hope) it'll come. It's dumb to have just random tier 3 blessing.

[upper sun]

man stopper is t2

zealot leaves because he has the same build as me

heh i guess he didnt wanna be OUTSHINED

[ornate hamlet]

must be really painful for him to play vet

"man another guy with the same build" (plasma power)

[plucky flax]

Scene when 4 vets all run p sword p gun p shout.

That's the build 90% of the time.

[ornate hamlet]

the kings and queens of unoriginality

[patent wing]

me at beginning of modding career:

i just need custom flames mod to not get blinded by purgatus
ends up here:

animation_events
CustomFlames
Healthbars
Spidey Sense
ManyMoreTry
KeepSwinging
scoreboard
BetterMelk
kill_tracker
CleanForceBlocking
FullAuto
NumericUI
creature_spawner
PerilGauge
PlayerOutlines
outline_colours
true_level
custom_hud

[ornate hamlet]

i got a couple of those

[patent wing]

kill_tracker is a hidden gem

very satisfying to do 70+ killstreaks, my best was 190

[ornate hamlet]

i almost religiously use force swords and i dont have clean forceblocking

[patent wing]

damn

[ornate hamlet]

kinda feels like the weapon customization mod, sure nice but kinda cheaty

not that im judging if you use it

its pve

[patent wing]

the clean force blocking?

[ornate hamlet]

but im in my head like, yeah seems like its a built downside

[patent wing]

dont look at the shield mod then xd

[ornate hamlet]

yeah

i seen it

also the autoclicker mod for full auto (actually not that cheaty)

[patent wing]

idk every weapn can block normally without impairing just fair imo