#psyker-class

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paper lily
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yeah, u have to qq cancel h1 rashad as well cuz the other heavies swing timer is too slow

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like ds4 special has 1.5 hitmass

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and that thing staggers EVERYTHING

cinder moon
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ds4 alt does a fair amount of damage in itself

supple dock
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staggering amount

cinder moon
untold niche
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is the main timing the mid slide charge h1 timing or the qq timing

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the qq timing fucking sucks

paper lily
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it's gonna be a tight cancel for rashad h1 ngl

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both matter a lot

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the second u start the slide is when u would qq into an immediate h1

untold niche
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so after stand up h1, qq on timing, after qq THEN you slide again?

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the mid slide h1 timing isn't even that bad

paper lily
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my exact inputs would be hold shift h1 slide qq h1 slide qq h1 slide etc etc

untold niche
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its sequential right

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at no point you are doing something at the same time

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i assume.

paper lily
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nope just holding w and doing those 3 things

untold niche
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do you ahve to do full charge heavy

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or just heavy is enough

paper lily
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nah don't matter how much its charged doesn't change the properties

untold niche
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ah, on standup, if you time it too late the heavy just get cancelled

paper lily
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there's a lot of inputs for sure

untold niche
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wait is it cause my second slide i didn't qq cancel the firtst slide heavy so the second slide heavy just get eaten
this is confoosing

paper lily
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u have to qq every time, it's not an easy tech with such a tight execution window

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that's why i recommend weapons with good l1's

untold niche
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i see

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i'll ping you again after i get my cknife

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;-;

cinder moon
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can use alt attack for the same movetech on certain weapons

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ogryn knife being one

paper lily
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yeah the uppercut is good

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u can just feel which attacks are gonna be good for slideboosting

cinder moon
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i miss the days when you could slideboost with ease with like, every melee

paper lily
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don't think i played then

cinder moon
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right around early access/release, it got fixed pretty quick

untold niche
wind spruce
paper lily
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i mean the first slides are better cuz u got ur speed back by then

untold niche
bold cape
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brainrot is real
level 30, only uses smite, gets like 20% the offense score as the next lowest and goes down constantly

untold niche
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basically for pure movement

paper lily
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he just had the wrong smite build

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there are some jank tricks u can do as well with jumping into a slide if u cancel the lunge of an attack into a jump then hold crouch

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iirc it lets you slide without sprinting

untold niche
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tf

supple dock
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S P E E D

untold niche
paper lily
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yeah i mean it's trash but neat that its even possible

untold niche
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xD

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dumb as hell

potent echo
untold niche
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WHY, FUCK WHY

untold niche
potent echo
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I think can just benchmaek against no stam run

untold niche
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AND ANOTHER ONE

potent echo
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Feels like it's the same or slightly slower

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It's just feels faster because fov changes, like sonic KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
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;-;

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no, arco told me no stamina slide faster than pure run

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i refuse to believe ur lies

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FFUCKING BRICKED

potent echo
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Needs to be instant maybe

untold niche
potent echo
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That's fine though

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Too slow

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Maybe the first one is okay

untold niche
potent echo
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Why flak?

wind spruce
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Why crit

untold niche
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gunner

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oh this for zealot

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sorry peepol

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xD

potent echo
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Gunner the other one is unarmored KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
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gunner and other stuff :v

wind spruce
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But why crit if lacerate over flesh tearer

potent echo
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Flak stuff dies to uncanny

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If anything you need to run unarmored

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Zealot poopoo talents

untold niche
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so what would i want for bleed crit on my knife?

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uncanny lacerate, then what perks

potent echo
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Can't even one shot shotgunners on heavy because unarmored

untold niche
spice veldt
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i'd probably time a sprint from one size of the psykh to the other

potent echo
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5% really doesn't matter that much

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I rather take unyielding 25% and evaporate bosses

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That's more fun to me anyway

untold niche
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so flak and unyielding? @wind spruce

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i ping irosk because i assume gui is reading

wind spruce
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Idk tbh

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Don't play zealot much

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Flak is generally good. There's a shit ton of flak and extra 25% helps for cleave damage, bleed damage, etc, even if many first target OSBPs are reached with uncanny

potent echo
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The only thing that flak CNA be good is buckethead

untold niche
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is cna a typo or does it stand for something

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what does the OS in OSBP stand for

potent echo
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Without uncanny stacks you cannot oneshot Buckethead

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Oneshotbreakpoint

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Maybe with flak you can oneshot buckethead

wind spruce
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Which one is bucket head hahahah

potent echo
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Dreg bruiser

wind spruce
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Should be able to one shot it with uncanny

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And flak

potent echo
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Zealot knife messing me up I sprint pass dreg shooters doing my heavy swipes, orange hit marker, didn't die KEKW_ogryn

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potent echo
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You can oneshot buckethead with max zealot melee stacks and some uncanny stacks

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But the first time you hit something in a fresh engagement it'll probably live Sitgryn

untold niche
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so tldr

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flak useless?

potent echo
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I don't like it

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I rather get cara/unyielding

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Or even unarmored

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Best is to go into psyk

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Then see what you want to kill but just doesn't die

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Take corresponding perk

untold niche
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hmm, critchance not worth for the CDR?

shut jackal
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are there folks here who use the duelling swords? was hoping for some advice with this one

potent echo
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Crit chance is better than nothing but zealot knife needs a little help to feel more fun

untold niche
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hmmmm

potent echo
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Three push attacks to kill dreg gunners KEKW_ogryn

shut jackal
wind spruce
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But I kinda like the idea of double dodge blessings whatthefuck_heresy

shut jackal
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Yeah i was looking at that too

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if i put on Uncanny, get rid of Riposte i'm guessing?

potent echo
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Double dodge is doable according to zealot chatters

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Because crit helps against carapace

wind spruce
potent echo
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Oh this is for zealot knife

untold niche
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btw if i run tknife, i need to run flamer right

hidden crystal
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It was interesting ending up in a mission where the other three players were all Zealots with near identical revolvers:

potent echo
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Sure but I ran knife IAG flame nades for my penance

jovial juniper
shut jackal
untold niche
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scourge 30% piety and second node, 25%

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ahhh

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LOL

jovial juniper
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Yup yup

hidden crystal
untold niche
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i don't need twbs on a cknife mk3 right

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cknife mk3, main attack is push attack? or light?

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somewhat memey

supple dock
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Swap out precog for Uncanny and swap infested for Carapace/Flak/Maniac

untold niche
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@potent echo whats the main form of attack(s) on mk3?
is it PA, lights, or heavy?

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zealot chat quite dead

potent echo
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Pushattack

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All day

supple dock
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push attack is so good on knives

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Basically just an instant heavy attack

potent echo
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But for sprinting towards targets just do hold heavy

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Lights are horrible

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Vs horde is literally spam push attack

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Don't dodge though or you will mess it up

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Since dodge pauses stam regen

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It's relatively safe to spam push attack vs pure horde

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Mixed horde, then it's player skill chadgryn

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Or pull out gun

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Gun strong

supple dock
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I'll use light attacks to get myself into a better position

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then I go back to pushattacks

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like if I'm just moving and can't ocmmit I'll toss a few lights for bleed

untold niche
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fucking hell

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yeha even at max stacks i can't one hit bucket head man

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what attack chain do i use if i need stamina?
PA into double light, or PA into heavy?

potent echo
potent echo
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Or the punch stab lol

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Punch stab is weaker than normal stab though

untold niche
potent echo
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Special then lmb

untold niche
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ah

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that one pretty good

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better than heavy i feel

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at least for non tanky

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its faster than heavy right

potent echo
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The punch stab only has one variant

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Doesn't matter if you charge it or not

untold niche
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@potent echo @plucky flax one is better, the other one has stealth cryge

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wait no

lethal lagoon
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wait yes

untold niche
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as in

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the better one

lethal lagoon
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is on

untold niche
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doesn't have SA

lethal lagoon
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the worse two

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Fuck

untold niche
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@lethal lagoon so stealth or critspam :v

lethal lagoon
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Why not both?

untold niche
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i meant stealth or chastise, you know waht i meant :v

lethal lagoon
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I really didn't, but we can pretend I did and was making fun of you

untold niche
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@lethal lagoon

lethal lagoon
untold niche
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why you give me that

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im asking

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which one you think i should run

lethal lagoon
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I got censored

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Anyways, if you are going dagger, you might as well run stealth

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Go all in with a round shape

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If you get my drift

untold niche
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no

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what is round shape

lethal lagoon
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a pair of round shapes but going deep

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Anyways, go full dagger zealot is my point

untold niche
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josho has the point in that my stealth build i can't take duelist and the zero stamina node

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esp since cknife has high finese values

untold niche
lethal lagoon
untold niche
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life is pain

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why can't stealthj be on left side

lethal lagoon
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Also if I remember correctly, crit is multiplicative in some places

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so you can skip blazing piety for example

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Anyways, do not listen to me, unless you wanna listen to me, then listen to me

near drift
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4 talent points just for duelist oof

lethal lagoon
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You do get toughness and melee damage and movement spd

untold niche
# lethal lagoon

i guess i could change out backstab CDR to like aib and ogryn damage

wet belfry
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you have throwing knives

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Thats everything you need

lethal lagoon
untold niche
lethal lagoon
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Just don't get hit

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🙂

wet belfry
lethal lagoon
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I personally never really care about duelist

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I just wanna be a stealthy stabby boi

wet belfry
lethal lagoon
potent echo
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Skip stealth

lethal lagoon
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Why not just skip the entire class then

potent echo
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Even for boss dps chastise is better

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That's true zealot is my least played class

wet belfry
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I doubt that

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really doubt that

untold niche
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i know stat / scoreboard wise chastise is better

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im prob running this

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@lethal lagoon thanks for input

supple dock
lethal lagoon
untold niche
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hey do the different cknife blessings carry over

potent echo
untold niche
potent echo
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Chastise you get armor downgrade and extra atk speed

untold niche
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theres mk3 and mk6 right?

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so if i get blessing on mk6

wet belfry
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Ya but invisibility can be doubled proced

untold niche
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do i get it on mk3 cknife

wet belfry
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chatise cant

potent echo
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Does the double proc actually work

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Idk if it's intentional or if the first hit doesn't get the bonuses

wet belfry
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I dont think the double proc has the bonuses but it doesnt matter

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its a free hit anyways

rich jolt
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Should i sit on this until crafting update?

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Kinda worried hadron will brick

potent echo
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I guess you can F and walk around behind the boss and shank it's head

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But chaosspawn KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
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@wet belfry whats the reason you took lacerate on your cknife for zealot again?

wet belfry
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CDR, damage, proccing crits.

untold niche
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even if i don't in psk i can build it

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wait hold on let me

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video

wet belfry
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well bleed does increase scourge which increases crits.

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I think that much isn't a question

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i also think lacerate bleed stacks can be usefull when not hitting heads.

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Mainly on bosses, mutants as primary examples.

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Missed attacks are another factor where it procs.

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No player no matter how good will hit every weakspot in this game.

untold niche
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as in, without lacerate, bleed crits / scourge still seems to build upo fast

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i think the boss point is a good point thouygh

wet belfry
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Ye they do.

potent echo
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But flesh tearer exists

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Actually I don't even have bleed talents

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And bosses still get 16 stacks anyway

untold niche
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yeah actually why not just run flesh tearer willmer

potent echo
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I have mercy killer / uncanny

wet belfry
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Im not that relitant on boss hate.

potent echo
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Each time you crit HS a boss it's crazy

untold niche
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so if i don't care about bosses that much, i can just run the zealot chat meta of precog uncanny?

What does mercy killer do again my bad

wet belfry
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Even then every single player who i actually care about in terms of opinion has basically run lacerate uncanny.

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I dont know any of you guys in this discord in reality.

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I dont know how your gameplay looks or what you do.

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I do however know that multiple really talented zealot players have made the choice to go lacerate uncanny

potent echo
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Zealot mercy killer / uncanny knife KEKW_ogryn

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3 bosses

potent echo
upper galleon
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Witches, flesh tearer> lacerate, don't listen to the voices

potent echo
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It's for zealot

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Which likes flesh tearer even more

upper galleon
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oh mercy sucks for zealot tbh

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only good for vet with serrrated blade

near drift
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...just run flesh tearer/uncanny if you want bleed, with zealot having scourge/peity your crit is already through the roof

potent echo
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It's fine purely for bosses

wet belfry
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I dont run the piety build anyways

upper galleon
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precog is just better mercy by 2x as effectiveness

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even piety build

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knife has the best base crit chance

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in the game lol

potent echo
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Perhaps precog

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Precog is the crit chance one?

upper galleon
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unless you are literally skipping scourge as well, then you just go riposte

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riposte crit chance, precog finesse damage

potent echo
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Ah

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Maybe I'll run precog next

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Since that ALSO buffs the crit damage

upper galleon
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precog is 60 finesse so 60 weakspot and 60 crit damage that stacks on eachother, then mercy is just 60 weakspot

potent echo
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It procs off ranged attacks too right?

wet belfry
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Mercy just seems like overkill to me in most situations anyways with zealot

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It doesnt have a good way to proc it like vet does.

upper galleon
# potent echo Maybe I'll run precog next

I actually recommend riposte a lot, it's buff duration is 6 seconds which actually gives it crazy consistency, you don't have to use it, but it's in the top tier of options

fluid forge
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uncanny is really the only mandatory blessing

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2nd one is kinda up to preference but lacerate is not where it's at

wet belfry
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Basically the discussion will just boil down to precog big number.

broken carbon
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precog best, flesh tearer second best, everything else is meh

wet belfry
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Lacerate smaller number but high consistency.

potent echo
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Flesh tearer is mainly for bosses right?

upper galleon
broken carbon
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oh i forgot about riposte and executor

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is executor the damage on special?

wet belfry
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no its the power on weakspot hits

upper galleon
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very rarely is an enemy going to live long enough for your bleed to actually do anything if you are properly hitting weakspot combos

fluid forge
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lacerate consistency is pretty whatever tbh, better off taking a dodge blessing

upper galleon
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flesh tearer is literally better lacerate at 50% crit and probably could drop the crit chance and it would still come on top

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BECAUUSE KNIFE HITS WEAKSPOT AHRD

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so you AIM WEAKSPOT

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the damage loss from lacerate bodyshots is not made up by bleed

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likem monstros? MK3 knife uses push attack heavy punch combo thing to the head, easy

fluid forge
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like if the argument is you'll not always hit weakspots, why bother with something that's bodyshot only when

  1. you're actively trying to headshot
  2. you're not always gonna bodyshot as a result
  3. dodge blessings will always be up so long as you're actually dodging shit
frail harness
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Every single day with Melk

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"you want this purple recon lasgun?"

upper galleon
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tbf, precog is a bit shrot duration, that's why riposte is a sidegrade for it, it also comes out to be about the same cause knife high finesse values make crit chance worth a good bit

frail harness
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No, asshole I want rending IV

supple dock
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yeah riposte is better not because of its power but the uptime in my opinion

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precog is strong though

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But it'll feel a little random for when you benefit from it

upper galleon
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precog gives you a great burst window but how riposte functions just works, both are great

supple dock
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yee

untold niche
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i assume uncanny still better for crusher

prime elk
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uncanny is mandatory

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you always take it

potent echo
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Yea weakspot damage won't help if you only doing 100 dmg per hit lol

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But I'll try precog or the other

untold niche
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im so sorry gui
you are taking uncanny + mercy right

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or precog mercy

potent echo
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I'm think of trying precog

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Or riposte

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Uncanny always

untold niche
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i thought you tested it so i wanted to ask how did you find your current build vs the "meta" uncanny precog

potent echo
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It just came from vet knife KEKW_ogryn

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Vet can proc bleed easier

spice veldt
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zealot does have an argument to not take uncanny cuz of crits

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and to take the riposte + fleshtearer combo

potent echo
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Might be more consistent than precog or riposte because sometimes dodges just don't register Sitgryn

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But I can definitely see how good precog bonuses are

spice veldt
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since crits do bump carapace adm from 60% to 80% which reduces relative effectiveness of uncanny

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and crits also bump up flak/maniac/unyielding

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flak to 115%, maniac to 150%, and unyielding to 175%

potent echo
spice veldt
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so uncanny's effect is also relatively less

untold niche
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arco change back your fucking name or i shoot my monitor

spice veldt
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tragic

spice veldt
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the will of stan is not so easily opposed

potent echo
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Send him monkey gifs every 5min

untold niche
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nah he will block me

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very sad

untold niche
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we not close enough internet friends for me to do that

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so uh, what perk to run actually :v

spice veldt
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yoshi is cooking up an adm spreadsheet but he's taking a break

untold niche
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i mean blessing

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what blessing to run for cknife zealot

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i assume someone did the numbers

spice veldt
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tbf for cknife zealot whatever works

untold niche
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No i want the numburs

spice veldt
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lacerate works but i think it's marginally less value and i'm philosophically opposed to it anyways

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since you can cook up a shit ton of crit chance on zealot such that the average value of fleshtearer exceeds it anyways

untold niche
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ok no lacerate thats fine

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but whats better than zealot chat meta of uncanny precog

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let me open up the blessing lists

spice veldt
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could go riposte + fleshtearer

untold niche
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wait why even run riposte

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you just said

spice veldt
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i believe that riposte + fleshtearer gives up some performance against carapace in exchange for being better as a "main weapon" against everything else

untold niche
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high crit chance on zealot

spice veldt
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to rack up even more crit chance

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because the point is to rack up crit to mitigate the lack of uncanny

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and secondly to increase the chance of proccing flesh tearer

untold niche
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is the "must" precog or uncanny again

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im confused due to information overload

spice veldt
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i'm currently recommending "Riposte" along with "Flesh Tearer"

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as an alternative blessing pairing

untold niche
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if i don't want riposte

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take precog or uncanny

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with flesh tearer

spice veldt
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both would work tbh but uncanny strike is naturally going to be active more

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precog has the benefit of proccing against unarmoured and infested (totally big value)

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the above table is a comparison between precognition and uncanny strike on weakspot and crit weakspot hits

untold niche
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yeah it does

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i just looked at the iamge

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im sorry

spice veldt
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no worries

untold niche
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xd

spice veldt
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on non-crit uncanny is better but on crit precognition is better

untold niche
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does flesh tearer add to DPS

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i mean against bosses for sure

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but i mean against say

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crushers

spice veldt
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it's less value against bosses because you're stacking bleed anyways with scourge

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my argument for fleshtearer (with riposte) is that you get to crit weakspot some elites and just let them bleed out

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spice veldt
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if you're going to be whacking at them yeah

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the ideea is that you can just hit and run them

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hit and leave them to die, assuming that you rolled a crit weakspot on them

untold niche
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how much damage does 6 stack flesh tearer do?

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enough to one shot gunner?

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enough to one shot mauler?

spice veldt
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for 8 stack with either +elite and/or +flak, crit weakspot heavy on dreg gunner is enough damage for the bleed to finish them off

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(and with scourge)

untold niche
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oh max is 8, my bad

spice veldt
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i never really checked for maulers

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maybe 2-crit weakspots is enough

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lemme check

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and the other idea of fleshtearer ist hat it makes it more usable against trash enemies

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which amounts to just lightspamming them and leaving them to die to the bleed

untold niche
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don't zombies die in one PA anyway

wind spruce
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Two crits will kill a mauler if you have flak damage

spice veldt
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so the knife is less painful if you want to actually use it as a main weapon

untold niche
spice veldt
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ye

wind spruce
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With FT

spice veldt
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basically we attempt to use Flesh Tearer like ogryn's bleed talent

untold niche
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wait arco, why not just PA zombies
so take flesh tearer so you can light them to death because its faster clear?

untold niche
# wind spruce With FT

any idea if the BP would change and how much if i took uncanny instead?
(thanks irosk)

spice veldt
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basically

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PA still also works cuz it's more cleave

untold niche
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yeah

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continue boss

wind spruce
spice veldt
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ah right you miss out on uncanny throwing knives

untold niche
spice veldt
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fuck i forgot about being able to throw uncanny knives

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UGH

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back to uncanny

wet belfry
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do not do that at home

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bring a flamer instead

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grill the chicken before knifeing it

untold niche
# wet belfry

one thing i hate about knife is i can't tell if someone is doing light or whatever
like at the start idk what attacks he did

very nice takedown video though.

untold niche
fluid forge
spice veldt
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if you want to be on the uncanny throwing knife grindset

lunar hollow
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just bring a revolver

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4head

spice veldt
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i want to learn to incorporate throwing knives more

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so i'm just gonna run uncanny cuz that seems more interesting to me

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and more degenerate

lunar hollow
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surgical handcannon tknife is funnier

untold niche
untold niche
untold niche
fluid forge
untold niche
fluid forge
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nah

spice veldt
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throwing knives have rather good damage

fluid forge
untold niche
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so whats the consensus by exhil?
bleed or non bleed?
at least for non boss.

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and for crusher

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or rather

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is there any legit difference

fluid forge
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honestly just do whatever you have more fun with

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non-bleed is definitely more dps in active combat though

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bleed will obvs outpace it if you're like, running away from shit

untold niche
fluid forge
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I imagine that's why there are solo players that run bleed, because a lot of solo gameplay is just holding W

fluid forge
untold niche
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i like active combat, but there seems to be some value in hitting the gunner only once and then being able to move onto the next gunner

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save time.

untold niche
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so weird.

fluid forge
untold niche
fluid forge
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I run flesh tearer for funsies

untold niche
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because it seems like your clear time would be faster even though your "DPS" is higher

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fuck wrong quotation but whatever

fluid forge
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I'd probs run riposte if I was going tryhard™️ tho

untold niche
#

why riposte, you going to crit either way

spice veldt
#

more crit

#

cuz with all other buffs, you can only attain 80% crit chance

#

w/o taking a crit chance blessing

lunar hollow
#

i only like precog when u have borderline obscene levels of attack speed to make up for the short buff duration

fluid forge
#

can never have too much crit (unless you go beyond 100% chance, which is not happening)

untold niche
spice veldt
#

yeah i like fleshtearer for that

lunar hollow
#

the true answer to all things in life is whatever you're doing is better than doing a 2 knife/graia brauto run and neither guy has immo nades to clear density

fluid forge
#

fleshtearer is nice if you're in an extended kite and can't just spam swings, yeah

lunar hollow
#

that duo run fucking SUCKED

untold niche
#

there is some window of vulnerability even if you are slide chaining

lunar hollow
#

my answer to gunners (particularly dregs) with knife is to just use a gun or tknives

untold niche
#

sorry, when you say gun, you mean shoot at range like a vet to clear like say half,
or go in and dai katana the 12 gunners by qq swapping every other shot

wet belfry
#

Theres basically zero difference in time actually compared to bleed

#

that guy in the video with bleed is just legit misplaying

lunar hollow
untold niche
#

but like just swapping :v

untold niche
lunar hollow
#

yea and if u have a brauto u can

#

since it suppresses everything

wet belfry
#

I got the 6 crushers killed with lacerate + uncanny in 22 seconds.

#

and thats in the realm in margin of error.

untold niche
lunar hollow
#

i mean u just dont headshot with em

untold niche
#

NON HEADSHOT AS AN ELITE GAMER?

lunar hollow
#

but most builds take dance of death and that turns it into a laserbeam

#

it has like borderline no finesse so it doesnt matter that much

untold niche
#

its not about the damage
Anyway for real, for brauto, is it easy to kill long range snipers?

untold niche
#

my kant shotgun can still snipe snipers

upper galleon
#

like playing counterstrike

lunar hollow
upper galleon
#

the difficult part is having the space to do that as a brauto, and in your brain turnin on the switch from rambo mode to counterstrike mode

untold niche
#

does dodging sniper shots proc DoD?
sometime theres no enemy nearby

upper galleon
#

besides DoD, DoD lets you go ham

lunar hollow
#

if there's literally no enemy nearby and just a sniper u just kinda walk up to him or ignore the guy

upper galleon
#

yea if no enemy is nearby

#

you can tapfire easily

#

DoD just helps you do it mid combat

untold niche
#

wait hold on, im taking flamer for horde clear and bulwark since im on cknife + tknife

#

i can't take brauto

#

it doesn't fit what i need

upper galleon
#

get good at throwing knives

#

and cry if the map has a short ceiling

lunar hollow
#

a brauto has pretty passable hordeclear

#

u can also just get decent at killing bulwarks in melee with a knife

untold niche
#

you thought it will hit beause they stagger

#

and then wow blue corsshair

lunar hollow
#

since they turned the forcefields off ive had considerably more fun fighting them

wind spruce
untold niche
fluid forge
wet belfry
#

No perilous 😦

untold niche
wet belfry
mental grail
#

Hey

wind spruce
upper galleon
#

i love the ramp up

mental grail
#

Does the martyrs skull on spireside-13 require 2 players?

supple dock
untold niche
#

so if i really want to sweat,
precog + riposte instead of precog + uncanny?

wet belfry
#

why would one ever willingly give up uncanny

fluid forge
#

but yea like running bleed is fine I just don't understand why one would run lacerate over FT if you are gonna go that way, especially given how many elite™️ players flex their high headshot rates

upper galleon
#

uncanny is it's worst, 25% damage boost vs any armor type that matters (besides unarmored and infested, only 2 it doesn't work on, which don't matter)

spice veldt
#

i only took riposte in place of uncanny because i filled the other blessing slot with FT

upper galleon
#

at it's best

#

it's much more than just 25%

untold niche
#

so what
actual meta is
precog + meta
or
precog + FT
depending on preference?

upper galleon
#

that alone just makes it a good blessing

spice veldt
#

tbf uncanny isn't a universal 25% damage boost against flak/unyielding/maniac because it has >100% adms against them on crit

upper galleon
#

25% relative not 25% true

spice veldt
upper galleon
#

but i hate math

#

fuck math

mental grail
#

fr

upper galleon
#

math was made by tzeentch

untold niche
wet belfry
untold niche
wet belfry
#

its bad 380

untold niche
mental grail
wet belfry
#

throw in trash

#

smh

spice veldt
#

actual meta would be uncanny + something else

spice veldt
#

i'd say riposte + ft but i forgot about throwing knives with uncanny

wet belfry
#

if you give up uncanny on knife i will disown you

upper galleon
#

no, i'd say uncanny is above slaught, it's in BM/DB tier

#

thrust tier

#

that tier

#

yee uncanny also buffs throwing knife, bleed damage, it's just works

mental grail
#

slaughter is pretty fucking kino on illisi though

untold niche
#

also, wouldn't mercy killer > precog

untold niche
#

i get that knife is fast but its not like the dodge thing is 100% uptime

upper galleon
#

precog is litearlly 2x mercy killer

#

finesse is both weakspot and crit

untold niche
#

ohhhh

upper galleon
#

mercy is just weakspot

#

also knife has the best dodges in the game, while the buff isn't the most consistent, it is easy to proc when it matters most, IE monstros

spice veldt
#

in fairness to mercy, it does boost crit weakspots as well

upper galleon
#

you can bait a pogryn swing and then go ham

spice veldt
#

so mercy is just 2/3 of precog

untold niche
#

anyway im thankful for everyone today
I feel blessed people come in here to help me

fluid forge
#

riposte does have a very consistent uptime tho

untold niche
upper galleon
#

uncanny+ riposte or precogt

#

burst window or consistency

untold niche
#

hmm but my knife already has precog so i guess uncanny precog

fluid forge
#

on zealot I would, but I like memeing around with FT because I don't really give a shit about knife to begin with

upper galleon
#

riposte+ scourge+ blazing piety is like what

#

85% crit chance

fluid forge
#

I'm a crusher or dclaw fanboy

upper galleon
#

with a crit ratio on knife being what it is, that's pretty nice

untold niche
fluid forge
#

the answer there is just chastise and laspistol

#

because it's busted af

upper galleon
# wet belfry

wouldn't lacerate just do this faster on crit punch

fluid forge
untold niche
upper galleon
#

yea you get 2 crit procs by the time when you go down to stack lacerate

untold niche
wind spruce
fluid forge
untold niche
wet belfry
#

perilous combustion veri op

wet belfry
#

spreading the joy of fire to people is a psykers job

mental grail
untold niche
#

what a cheater

wind spruce
untold niche
#

10k plasteel and no uncanny4

mental grail
#

also

#

its funny how nobody uses the kantrael pistol

untold niche
#

14 gold weapons

mental grail
#

ever

wet belfry
#

my psyker games

untold niche
#

then i took immo nades and kant

calm palm
#

That's a lot of big men

untold niche
#

sorry im bad player

mental grail
#

I remember loading up my ep brain rupture build and hardly getting any stacks, but the SECOND I load up my gunker suddenly it's crusher bonanza

true lake
#

ai director trying to throw hands

mental grail
#

I do believe there are times when the director just says

#

fuck it, they die now

wet belfry
#

i heard you like big men

zinc abyss
#

can you even kill units with mk III trauma force staff? because i'm having issues killing stuff at range even at diff 3

calm palm
true lake
#

big oily men found to be the leading cause of squad wipes

calm palm
#

Oh

spice veldt
#

trauma is a really good staff, but it suffers from "has really big fucking stat scaling"-itis

mental grail
#

show staff

spice veldt
#

to my memory, it is the weapon with the widest scaling stats in this game

true lake
#

yeah you need to have your trauma stat near perfect to do anything meaningful really, hence why not many people touch it

spice veldt
#

also the visual circle lies to you

zinc abyss
spice veldt
#

the blue circle that you see is assuming that you have 100% blast radius

mental grail
#

Wheeze

true lake
#

yeah that staff is useless

mental grail
#

^^^

true lake
#

use surge for now

spice veldt
#

i'd frankly avoid using the trauma staff at low levels

#

it'll be bad-ish and feel bad to use

zinc abyss
#

😦

#

but I like the secondary attack

spice veldt
#

yeah it's a shame

#

just know that it does get better later on

mental grail
#

taking that staff into malice should count as self harm

#

you are strong willed

true lake
#

try voidstrike, it doesnt have the same secondary but if you aim it towards the ground you can get a similar result with better stats for low levels

#

also pretty good for armored enemies

zinc abyss
true lake
#

because thats the other staff they have there lol

true lake
#

for lower levels just stick with what you are given really, no point to waste resources until you hit max level to get the most for your bucks

wind spruce
#

but i failed 😦

true lake
#

only thing i would buy is maybe some of the slightly built stuff in the armory but nothing else

zinc abyss
#

i notice all staffs' primary attack sucks and require like multiple shots to kill

true lake
#

i mean yeah, primary is mainly a "get away from me" kind of attack

#

so that you can use your secondary which is where the real fun lies

zinc abyss
#

because i'm having issues trying to deal with all the ranged enemies

mental grail
#

primary is mostly filler to create space or finish off wounded enemies quickly

#

secondary is what you should be targeting your enemies with primarily

zinc abyss
#

then which staff should I use for killing a lot of ranged?

wet belfry
#

the gun staff

mental grail
#

Surge, like they said

wet belfry
#

pew pew

mental grail
#

or void, if you have it

zinc abyss
#

i have both

mental grail
#

try void, since you've tried surge already

zinc abyss
#

are the stats too garbage? I don't mind buying and upgrading a staff to level with

supple dock
#

Realistically you're too low of a level to really worry about fishing for stats

zinc abyss
#

well trauma staff was really bad

supple dock
#

Oh, actually

zinc abyss
#

so that's why i'm wondering

supple dock
#

Don't use staves when leveling

#

Purg works

#

everything else sucks ass

zinc abyss
supple dock
#

But yeah, staves only feel good when you've got everything you need, and purg is just, fire. it does the special thing it's supposed to

mental grail
#

Use gun until you're finished leveling

zinc abyss
#

guns are boring, might as well play veteran

supple dock
#

You can still use the staff, and it's w/e

#

But they're gonna feel bad until you can get everything

#

and as I said, purg is also fine to use

zinc abyss
#

what stats matter most on staves?

mental grail
supple dock
#

doesn't really need anything special/specific to work

mental grail
#

None of them at your level lol

supple dock
terse saffron
#

are psyker combat blades built the same as vet & zealots?

supple dock
#

For fire, damage is dumpstat

mental grail
#

no

terse saffron
#

never played that before

mental grail
#

force swords are closer to power swords though

zinc abyss
#

purge stat doesn't have the range to deal with ranged enemies

supple dock
#

left click

#

really powerful vs unarmored and flak

mental grail
#

use it

#

assail or bb pick whichever is least ass

supple dock
#

assail will straight up carry you through low levels

#

to the point where you don't even need to look for weapons KEKW

stable halo
#

assail still carries me on auric maelstroms

mental grail
#

assail has shooters covered, and purge has horde, all you need is a cara option really

supple dock
#

deimos, DS4, shit even some combat axes

mental grail
#

DS4 I recommend

#

don't want you blowing tf up

stable halo
#

I run deimos (horde/single target), revolver (sniping, weakspots, disabler panic button), and assail (sniping, horde). Covers everything.

mental grail
#

juggling 3 peril weapons

supple dock
#

a lot of people run that KEKW

#

peril weapons are also nice to have in abundance so you can quell with anything as well

mental grail
#

most of those people are lvl 30 though tbf

supple dock
#

works both ways

mental grail
#

I would see so many psykers blowing the fuck up when leveling it was comical

supple dock
#

I mean that's just the learning curve of psyker period

mental grail
#

they were all assail psykers too

stable halo
#

its hard to keep your brains in one spot sibling

upper galleon
#

Surely if assail and sciers gaze is on the same part of the tree it means they work good together - unaware psyker about to explode themselves

stable halo
stable halo
upper galleon
#

Venting shriek for life

#

Too versatile

stable halo
#

Cretins! I have a shield!

upper galleon
#

Too good of a safety net

#

Shield cant stop me from blowing myself up

wet belfry
#

Scriers gaze psykers dont even need to manage peril.

#

Just spam scriers gaze when its off cooldown, don’t use the blitz ability.

upper galleon
#

Yea thats the issue

#

I picked space wizard to do wizard things in space

zinc abyss
#

so at lvl 30 with good staves, do you use primary to kill ranged enemies easily?

upper galleon
#

Not to play generically buffed nerd indistinguishable from other classes

wet belfry
mental grail
wet belfry
#

But generally yeah its a good option

zinc abyss
mental grail
#

Maccabean Dueling Sword MKIV

zinc abyss
#

why do you recommend it?

untold niche
#

me never topping melee only on my zealot cryge

mental grail
#

Also the animations for it are very clean

wet belfry
#

Dislocate the S button from the keyboard

#

Embrace the W key

zinc abyss
#

Anyone know why the hud hiding isn't working for custom hud when I'm trying to hide original peril?

untold niche
#

also im not confident + kind of asshole move

wet belfry
#

Predict the future

untold niche
#

i already am at 20fps dips

wet belfry
#

Ram is free just download it on the internet

supple dock
#

that wasnt it

#

whatever

wet belfry
#

I actually wouldnt anyways

supple dock
#

suuuper old joke site

wet belfry
#

Its easier, safer to do it within windows settings then an app

terse saffron
wet belfry
#

Im not sure anyways if changing part of an SSD to ram would improve actual performance

supple dock
wet belfry
#

RAM memory sticks are many times faster then an SSD

potent echo
#

You wouldn't download a RAM

zinc abyss
#

anyone know if enabling mods disables the game's intro?

supple dock
#

There's a mod that specifically skips the intro

potent echo
supple dock
#

LogMeIn hamachi

zinc abyss
#

i have it disabled though

potent echo
#

If you grabbed a curated mod list yea it will probably have that

terse saffron
zinc abyss
#
crosshair_hud
WhatTheLocalization
animation_events
scoreboard
limit_background_fps
BuffHUDImprovements
InventoryStats
creature_spawner
custom_hud
NumericUI
psych_ward
claim_all_penances
ChatBlock
CollectibleFinder
hub_hotkey_menus
ENLocalizationFIXBlessings
ENLocalizationFIXCurios
ENLocalizationFIXTalents
ENLocalizationFIXTraits
supple dock
#

melk almost had something good

untold niche
#

wait why is it so familar

supple dock
untold niche
untold niche
terse saffron
untold niche
#

good luck on getting the t4 blessing

#

20k plasteel

#

prepare ur

terse saffron
#

i got them all already

potent echo
#

That's fixable

terse saffron
#

i dont have a mf knife to put them on

potent echo
#

Unarmored on knife is pretty good actually KEKW_ogryn

terse saffron
#

it was good for getting rid of dreg gunners on zealot but i dont want that on psyker

wet belfry
#

People that dont have every t4 blessing by now are not true darktide players

rich jolt
terse saffron
#

oh shit

#

now thats a good candidate

potent echo
wet belfry
terse saffron
#

damn so much potential wasted

potent echo
#

Low key

#

Weakspot damage is actually good on knife KEKW_ogryn

rich jolt
#

Ive seen people talking about saving weapons till crafting update is that a good idea or are those people just shitting around? I got two grolls today and im worried hadron will brick

terse saffron
#

catfish said dont scrap bricks

untold niche
#

what if update comes 6 months later?

potent echo
terse saffron
#

whether you choose to believe it or not thats on you

rich jolt
#

Wish me luck

wet belfry
#

I have enough ordos, mats for the crafting rework anyways.

#

I just dont give then to the ogryn.

potent echo
#

They gonna add a third resource to break locks

wet belfry
#

Because he looks like a dwarf

potent echo
terse saffron
potent echo
#

Fourth

wet belfry
#

Dwarfs are greedy

rich jolt
#

Honestly i dont like the lock system in the first place i think it should be removed

wet belfry
#

They should make it a requirement to use melk bucks in crafting

rich jolt
#

Give them a purposeKEKW_ogryn

wet belfry
#

1000 per item.

supple dock
wet belfry
#

This way we can cap the player-base to creating a limited pool of weapons each week.

supple dock
wet belfry
#

Saving the hamsters driving the server.

terse saffron
#

im not gonna run a knife without US anyway

potent echo
#

US KEKW_ogryn

#

That's a first for uncanny

rich jolt
wet belfry
rich jolt
#

Fucked up purple creature😡

#

Destroy it

wet belfry
#

Its art

rich jolt
#

EVIL art

wet belfry
#

By publicizing work like this im slowly tearing the evil AI in this world apart

fading patrol
wet belfry
#

I am the anti-AI

rich jolt
#

You will only teach them to spread your madness

wet belfry
#

With enough me’s in the world the AI will no longer be able to steal jobs

fluid forge
#

hell if I used venting instead of shield that would've done it too DrillW

mental grail
short shuttle
#

What do you guys think of this? Any changes?

wind spruce
#

Garbage locked blessing and mediocre locked perk

untold niche
#

isnt flak ok
bloodthirsty is so weird tho

wind spruce
untold niche
#

for the bruiser

wind spruce
#

It's OK 😉

#

Pretty sure bruisers get one shot without it

untold niche
wind spruce
#

Its a deimos

#

It oneshots errything

short shuttle
fluid forge
#

I usually find I kill most stuff without even needing to do the special attack on deimos

#

but in any case you'd get more mileage out of other blessings

untold niche
#

even if you ran purge deimos

#

lets say you kill a special

#

then you only get one time crit

#

on say the crusher

#

thats it

#

ragers are elites or specials again?

#

ikd just based off feel

#

i think irosk would explain better

wind spruce
#

Bloodthirsty bad

#

Nah you said it all dude

#

You don't use the special that often in deimos

#

Simples

fluid forge
untold niche
fluid forge
#

also ragers are elites

untold niche
#

aqualia, do you poke crushers with special for deimos?
iirc the special just used to stagger right?

wind spruce
#

Can you tell I skim read what you said @untold niche KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
#

i pretend that you didn't

#

why call you out for that :v

wind spruce
#

It felt right from my skim

untold niche
#

do you kill crushers with the poke too?

wind spruce
#

The point still stands that, one crit after you use the deimos special, which isn't even that good relative to just using light and heavy pokes, is garbage

untold niche
#

do you kill crushers with the special too*

terse saffron
#

did not expect the knife psyker to delete the bon until the first bubble goes down ghad dayum

terse saffron
#

who

untold niche
#

@terse saffron timestampped

fluid forge
#

which probably(?) isn't optimal but eh

untold niche
#

wait, but against mutie do people usually use the special or heavy?
i know they "poke", and iirc its a special.

But how come against crushers special only staggers? the adm for the attacks are very different?

mental grail
#

I thought they were specialists

fluid forge
#

noooo

#

they're elites

#

specialists are any of the shit that tends to show up in small-ish numbers and has an audio cue

#

bombers, trappers etc.

fluid forge
untold niche
#

you heavy or special

#

for 1 tap

fluid forge
#

I just heavy

#

usually kills 'em

wind spruce
#

Heavy stab one shots muties if you have 25% maniacs

untold niche
#

yeah im never taking that blessing KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
wind spruce
#

I don't even think it's good on illisi tbh

wind spruce
untold niche
#

ah

#

quick question, ovenproof what is "fun stuff"

wind spruce
#

It's the bottom rows

#

Number of one shots

#

Highest single damage hit

potent echo
#

You can check your scoreboard by either pressing F5 or scoreboard mod options

#

Because scoreboard is still fucked and you need like 3 different mod with Frankenstein options to get a proper one KEKW_ogryn

cinder moon
#

local rager takes a tumble after being bopped in the face with a stick

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
#

How does his facial experiession fit so well with the edit lmao

#

That's amazing.

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
cinder moon
#

i didn't feel like hitting it with the sword

plucky flax
cinder moon
#

staff bonk is more fun

lethal lagoon
#

If the rager had lived, he'd no longer be a heretic

plucky flax
#

I still need 3 missions with no dying. Let's see if people would die or not in regular mode.

upper sun
#

i gave up after that

plucky flax
#

Okay they died nvm.

#

Like how nooooo

supple dock
supple dock