psyker-class

[radiant frigate]

i wasn't using it on them

but it does take a year to draw and consumes a ton of ammo to do a not impressive amount of boss damage

or crushers, i guess that requires shattering

[cinder moon]

has a dumb animation where you rack the bolt literally every time you draw it, too

makes no mechanical sense

[radiant frigate]

indeed

plus my infernus lasgun does more boss damage anyway

or infernus laspistol

[cinder moon]

a bunch of the guns have stupid staged reload animations, too. the amount of times i've canceled the laspistol reload on the button press is too damn high

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-magnifying-glass-plankton-spongebob-magnifying-glass-burn-gif-27213632

[cinder moon]

only gun i really enjoy using is the helbore, bayonet and bayonet charge are absolutely baller

bayonet charge is faster than regular sprint when you're out of stam, too

[radiant frigate]

i prefer not to use guns if i can help it

[plucky flax]

Anyone up for this in sedition?

[radiant frigate]

hold up, what bayonet charge

as in, holding bayonet and sprinting?

[cinder moon]

yes

[radiant frigate]

that is a thing?

[cinder moon]

yes

[radiant frigate]

[tepid remnant]

Hello! I'm on my way to level 30 and I been looking up some builds.
I see the steam build go with shield +empowered psionics vs the venting shriek+ warp siphon.
What's the difference between the two build? Is the shield one more supportive for the team?

[plucky flax]

Yeah but the creeping flames do so much damage it's insane.

I would recommend just always go creeping flames.

[radiant frigate]

shield bad outside of specifically sniper gauntlet

[tepid remnant]

[plucky flax]

2nd best ability behind vet shout.

[cinder moon]

shield can work for particular builds but it's kind of a crutch and something of a trap

[stark notch]

What is your gear?

Or rather, preferred weapons

[tepid remnant]

Just picked back up the game, but went the assail build with surge. Saw they changed the surge staff

[stark notch]

Shriek for the aoe them, defo

[cinder moon]

also, you have to charge bayonet attack before initiating sprint for the spood beest; if you try charging bayonet while already sprinting, no extra speed

[weary crane]

Man they need to fix being taken by monstrosities, you can die while being held by chaoes spawn or inside nurgle. There's literally nothing you can do

[upper sun]

ye

chaos spawn once threw me under the map and once inside a medstation

BoN eating shit should be nuked from the game

[radiant frigate]

beast of nurgle spat me off a cliff

[plucky flax]

I had mutie thrown me into medstation recently.

[upper sun]

hell yeah

tbh i have no idea how they can even fix that shit

[plucky flax]

/retry

[tired estuary]

at least we're past the days of getting permastuck in geometry for sliding into walls sometimes

[upper sun]

ohhh i know how they can fix it they should put built in "stuckness" detection that kills you if you get stuck

and ofc itll randomly activate

fuck yeah this is awful i should suggest that shit

[cinder moon]

I got thrown into the back rooms by a mutie the other day, on the stair section of hab dreyko right before the second to last medicae

there were 2 tox bombers in there throwing grenades with no cooldown, so I killed them, alt-f4’d and reconnected

[radiant frigate]

is there any rhyme or reason as to how long bonbon will keep you in its belly

i love bosses that you can't melee!!

[upper sun]

no

teammates have to shoot it

i once got 100% purple juice from it because my team decided to ignore it after it ate me

[radiant frigate]

is the grab at all escapable or dodgeable

other than "don't be that close in the first palce"

because i do not think it is

[cinder moon]

can’t get eaten if you weren’t puked on

[upper sun]

huh

did not know that

[queen fog]

Ya that’s why BoN is so insistent on puking on u before giving u a big hug…

With its esophagus

[plucky flax]

Bonbon uwu

[mental grail]

No more a crutch than assail or ep smite really.

I gotta find out what my true level is, I'm actually curious

[queen fog]

My assumption is high, as a broski who also doesn’t have true level mod on

I do got a handful of other broski with one tho so I do know my vet’s level is like 3 times regular

[cinder moon]

calling bubble a crutch is more about players that think it’s a perfect safe space, of whom there are many

[cloud sequoia]

venting shriek + EP

i finally got my 40 kill with scrier, kinda RNG

[vestal fulcrum]

It's BAFFLING to me how hard it is to get used to a different timing with that low quell speed

[mental grail]

I got it charging into a crowd with illisi

[vestal fulcrum]

But at least it's much easier to kill bruisers with epicentre blasts (my previous Blaze Trauma had 61 Damage)

[upper sun]

build another staff you know you wnt to

[vestal fulcrum]

no

I will prevail

[mental grail]

Quell speed is a dump stat depending on build.

[vestal fulcrum]

Or go back to the previous one

[upper sun]

build 17 more staves

[vestal fulcrum]

Quell Speed is far from being a dump stat

that would be Warp Resist

[mental grail]

I just dump vent into a crowd and ignite the whole screen

[mental grail]

not with that attitude it isn't

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

damage is not a dump stat 😭

[plucky flax]

Low quell is hell.

[paper lily]

Quell speed top tier

[vestal fulcrum]

It is, but, it's more comfy to use than the previous one

(the point about bruisers dying more easily)

[weary crane]

It's not the throwing that I dislike It's being hit while in the air or inside nurgles belly

Flame can hit you while you're in the air

And monstrosities still target you inside nurgle

[upper sun]

theres so much bullshit they need to fix fire in nurgle belly, getting meleed while you're grabbed by muties

[marble crater]

Yesterday I had a poxburster jump on me while I was inside the belly

[weary crane]

Yeah I had that

[marble crater]

I went from 90% health to 1 HP and full corruption start of the mission too

[upper sun]

just like telo said in a stream this shit is whats killing the game did we really need to wait 5 months for the bulwark fix to happen?

most of those are tiny changes that can be added in with a cosmetics patch

[proud pivot]

Wasn't the bulwark thing there since the game launched

[upper sun]

ye

but they only decided to fix it after like 4 people kept bitching at them non stop

gunner/flamer knockback reduction too like bruh one kick moves you like 6m

[proud pivot]

Funniest thing about the bulwark fix is now it's possible to bonk them on the head over their shield

[upper sun]

ye

also flamers can go over the shield

bulwarks and ragers now actually feel fun to enage with in melee

its so nice

[cinder moon]

the QoL stuff is nice for sure, but there needs to be more variety in maps to get people to come back and stay

[proud pivot]

Ragers having full aimbot tracking before was some goofy shit

[cinder moon]

like, where 3rd carnival map

where second hive city maps

[marble crater]

Carnival maps are fun, give us more

[radiant frigate]

fire during cspawn grab :)

the zero threat move just turned into instant death

[proud pivot]

Incap + any fire is actually just gg for your health bar

[upper sun]

we're not allowed to talk about this

[vestal fulcrum]

Or Chaos spawn grab into Plague ogryn mauling you

[plucky flax]

Rare ogryn game and I get 3 psykers

[vestal fulcrum]

flashcat pants

I envy you

[analog solstice]

what kinda blessings and perks am i looking for on a voidstrike staff? 🤔

[plucky flax]

I'm gonna pick up a grim.

[cinder moon]

i pick up grims to consume them and remove corruption

[proud pivot]

The joys of watching 50% of my health disappear on my veteran

and just never going down because I just drop dead

[vestal fulcrum]

less health = play better

slack watch gets folks killed

[proud pivot]

I certainly try but when I'm trying to handle the crusher clown car with a devil claw while everyone else is swinging at trash, things get a lil bit awkward

[plucky flax]

We lost.

I look left and right and suddenly they all die.

(totally not because they're all on like 150hp cos of my grim)

[vestal fulcrum]

How does Purgatus not outscore everyone in damage

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah we had trouble with horde dunno how with purga on the team.

I don't like it but I had to use kickback on horde a few times.

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

You are ogryn pro what blessing should I use with standard shovel? I have BM and the other blessing I'm unsure between thunderous and skullcrusher. Thunderous stacking nerf kinda sucks.

[vestal fulcrum]

I use BM and Thrust

[plucky flax]

In fact it sucks a lot.

The none folding shovel?

[vestal fulcrum]

Thunderous fell off a bit, but it's far from a bad blessing, still

[plucky flax]

I don't like the 2 folding shovels.

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah. You can still bonk things with it

[potent echo]

Thrust for sure

[plucky flax]

I hate thrust mechanic I am too impatient to hold it down.

[potent echo]

At full charge you activate BM on bruisers

One line of heads go flying

[plucky flax]

[vestal fulcrum]

I certainly wouldn't use Thunderous on a Gunlugger setup, but whackin a crusher a couple of times with Thunderous shovel and letting it bleed is still a valid strategy

[plucky flax]

That's big actually.

[potent echo]

You need heavy hitter and crunch

[plucky flax]

Oh I don't have crunch.

[potent echo]

If you have 5 heavy hitter you don't need crunch

[proud pivot]

I should give that a go but that would mean doing another double casino run

[vestal fulcrum]

Is Crunch really required, though

[plucky flax]

I also don't run heavy hitter.

[potent echo]

Try in the psyk

[plucky flax]

I prefer the middle keystone.

[potent echo]

Oh well then

[plucky flax]

Tanky.. but they also nerfed it.

[upper sun]

"psyker"
"grim"

[plucky flax]

They nerfed all the gud stuff.

[potent echo]

Use basher 3b brrr

[upper sun]

you knew what you were doing

[vestal fulcrum]

FNP is still good for making you somewhat impervious

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's still my fav.

[proud pivot]

Losing FnP stacks from random shooters is pain

[plucky flax]

I feel so much safer. Heavy hitter damage is nice but I become so squishy.

Me scared.

[potent echo]

It makes the pushing giving you 1 FNP back some more value

[plucky flax]

My very defensive build. I use standard shovel or mk3 haymaker basher with it.

Thunderous nerf.

[proud pivot]

I'm still mourning the BM rework

[plucky flax]

It's good rework. So much better horde clear.

[plucky flax]

No I pick grim when I play psyker too.

Don't queue up to grim mission if you don't want it picked up.

[potent echo]

Just don't get hit owo

[vestal fulcrum]

You haven’t taken any small TDR nodes

[plucky flax]

I don't yeah. I prefer straight up toughness over tdr.

[potent echo]

Nah tdr nodes are broken

It's better than FNP actually

[vestal fulcrum]

There’s probably more value in taking TDR over toughness, or at least diminishing returns in taking it over TDR, but you are a responsible Ogryn, so I’ll leave it to you

[potent echo]

Ogryn gets 30% if you pick all of them

[plucky flax]

But I am thicc

[vestal fulcrum]

Indeed, the Ogryn is mighty

[plucky flax]

Unless I get trapped.

[upper sun]

so we went from "ask before you pick one up" to "dont queue up" because penance points? ur such a follower

[plucky flax]

Ogryn is so much harder to dodge trap.

[vestal fulcrum]

I’d personally ditch Bruiser + Get stuck in and get both TDR nodes

[proud pivot]

Have you tried being smaller

[vestal fulcrum]

But again, you do you

[potent echo]

Ogryn dodge cdr is

[marble crater]

Run taunt and stagger the trapper before it shoots

[plucky flax]

Ability cdr is gud no?

To charge/run away.

Allies kill also work too.

[vestal fulcrum]

It is good, I can’t say no, I just don’t find it nearly as valuable on Indomitable v Point Blank Barrage

I also like FNP upgrade for restoring stacks for pushing

[paper lily]

fnp with new icd for stack removal makes regaining them kinda pointless if u play well

[vestal fulcrum]

Since you have a gigantic stamina bar to begin with, so if bad things happen, you can salvage some of your resources

[plucky flax]

I'll try removing those 2 nodes for 20% tdr.

[vestal fulcrum]

You’d be surprised how easily it is to be stripped of FNP still

[paper lily]

the reason those tdr nodes are stronger is because they're additive

i mean i finished a bunch of ogryn penances with it, barely dropped below 7

maybe if i'm afk in gunner pack

[vestal fulcrum]

Additive with one another, that is

[plucky flax]

[vestal fulcrum]

Because they are no longer additive with FNP

[paper lily]

the difference there is almost negligible, but the point still remains tdr small nodes on ogryn tree are probably strongest nodes in the game

[vestal fulcrum]

They are ridiculously good

[plucky flax]

OKAY I HAVE 2/3 NOW

Pls no flame

[vestal fulcrum]

[paper lily]

heavy hitter needs gigabuffs to actually be impactful i swear

[plucky flax]

Give 5% attack speed per stack.

[paper lily]

ngl, just make each stack ignore x% of hitmass

so i can actually cleave with weapons that haven't got bromentum

[plucky flax]

Ogryn with decent teammates = ez mode.
Ogryn with sus teammates = hell.

Clutching on big man is

[paper lily]

the fact that mk4 cleaver with unstoppable force is s tier makes me sad

yeah but that's just cuz hes fat

[potent echo]

Big man can run in and res to prevent hell at least

[paper lily]

ogryn very lucky to have additive ally res speed curio perks as well

on top of their built in 20%

not to mention the % is lied about on the perk itself, it's actually higher

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Enemies will despawn if you just survive, is what I noticed with Ogryn clutches

[paper lily]

this is true, for some reason the game just despawns unactionable entities

[lethal lagoon]

Could be my imagination, but I clutch in crazy situations on Og if I just live long enough

But the damage isn't reflective of it

Oh col

🆒

I haven't really played Ogryn since the most recent survival nerfs

[paper lily]

fnp ogryn is still immortal

[lethal lagoon]

I'd imagine

I was immortal by a mile before, I can't see why a kilometer would make a different

[paper lily]

best build was always lucky bullet and that got buffed imo

[lethal lagoon]

I would just spam heavies on mk3

[paper lily]

ppl value surviving way too much

[lethal lagoon]

Functionally immortal

[paper lily]

just kill everything nothing to survive if everythings dead

[lethal lagoon]

The question is heretics, the best answer is always death

🔥

[paper lily]

there's an interesting hybrid build with ogryn with charge/lucky bullet

[lethal lagoon]

Too much

[paper lily]

i think trample is global damage, haven't looked at it

[lethal lagoon]

Only

[paper lily]

but u get batter and the ammo economy from the missed 25% ammo reserve talent basically

and charge has way lower cd so u get it back so fast when u shoot

[lethal lagoon]

I'm allergic to melee when I play ranged Ogryn

Can only do 1 thing at a time

[paper lily]

ranged ogryn just puts me to sleep it's so op

[lethal lagoon]

Ranged Ogryn is also one of the few builds that has it's damage improved by smite instead of lowered

Plasma Vet, Ranged Ogryn, Ep Smite Psyker, Boss Thammer Zealot

[paper lily]

u think ur gonna be able to smite anything with proper specced ranged ogryn

[lethal lagoon]

Enemies like to bunch up in a way that improves cleave, which is bad for some weapons, like plasma

Smite keeps them in a bowling alley

Ultimate brain off team

[paper lily]

idk why people pretend like ogryns cant crit w ranged as well

my avg crit per game is like 50% on ranged ogryn

and crit gives u more cleave

[lethal lagoon]

Cleave vs "pen" is my point

Smite is bad for cleave, good for pen

[paper lily]

i'm just talkin about the game stat not the idea

cuz crit gives u reduced hitmass which means bullet go thru more things

[lethal lagoon]

Ah

Crit is underrated on Illy

[paper lily]

crit is just good

i unironically wish i could get more crit on ogryn for perfect strike on clubs

when it hits it feels so good

[lethal lagoon]

I just love clubs

I never really used anything but clubs

[paper lily]

mk4 knife is just the best weapon ogryn has

[lethal lagoon]

Bull butcher was fun for a little back when it was OP, but it's the bonk for me

[paper lily]

maybe 2nd up being shield

clubs just kinda fit the fantasy of ogryn more

[lethal lagoon]

Meh on shield.

Too much vision blocking, doesn't do as much as claimed, esp after bleed nerfed.

[paper lily]

some buff as fuck 1st grader walks into a room with a pile of heretics, picks up the first pipe they see slap some barbed wire on that bitch and go to town

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

i had to change weapon fov so much on shield to make it work on ultrawide

[lethal lagoon]

Also I hate claims that shield is strong, cause then a bunch of people use it and literally just block and l1 and then complain Ogryn sucks

[paper lily]

shield is just op cuz h2 has infinite cleave and ogryn has batter

[marble crater]

Shield is strong though

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

everyone loves the h1 but meh

[lethal lagoon]

I've run into 1, 1 shield user who actually used heavies.

ONE

Just ONE

[paper lily]

idk u got bad luck then i guess lmao

[marble crater]

Yeah

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

Had that recently, it was sad to see

[paper lily]

melee oriented ogryn just can't live without spamming heavies

[lethal lagoon]

I tried an old school bull butcher build with just confident strike and man, is it a noticeable decline

[paper lily]

wdym just light spamming

or

[lethal lagoon]

light spamming yeah

Grenade Gaunlet and Bull Butcher

Old meta gaming

[paper lily]

gg is still strong but mk4 knife rework just makes it shit on the other knives now

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, it just doesn't feel good to me on elites even though I can tell it's doing work

Club has that crunch

[paper lily]

crunch? club knocks them on their fucking asses lmao

[lethal lagoon]

But when you bonk that crusher head

[paper lily]

lol

[lethal lagoon]

And plague ogryn duels

[plucky flax]

Nearly 1mil damage but it's 41 mins of hell

[paper lily]

i just qq swap after l2 and stab the shit out of anything flak or more armoured

ur zealot was killing the dogs at least...

[lethal lagoon]

Zealot had more diamonte, so in terms of next crafting patch, actually he carried

[paper lily]

wonder if they're gonna fix fucked up blessings like they did the penances on rework

[proud pivot]

What blessings are scuffed?

[plucky flax]

Spent way too long at end event with both guys running stealth.

[paper lily]

there's quite a few that just don't work as described

or do things they say they shouldn't do

[lethal lagoon]

Just on psyker; Run'n'gun, Terrifying Barrage, Focused Channeling.

[plucky flax]

@vestal fulcrum @potent echo I felt very tanky with 2 tdr nodes good suggestion.

[lethal lagoon]

Ogryn TDR nodes

[paper lily]

think i get all 3 on every single ogryn build

[lethal lagoon]

Same

10% is just dumb

[plucky flax]

Not enough points I don't want to use heavy hitter

[paper lily]

all the nodes connecting to the tdr nodes are really good tho

well except that free floating one on the right ig

[radiant frigate]

anyone else think that feel no pain is a really shit keystone now

get shot at -> regenerate toughness -> you were never scratched but FNP is at 0 stacks now

[paper lily]

nah u have a cd for losing stacks, it's not as bad as you think

[radiant frigate]

no it is absolutely as bad as i think

because it just peaces out in the engagements you would want it

and it only stays if you do not get hit

[paper lily]

it would take 10 seconds of getting hit by constant gunfire to set u to 0stacks

[radiant frigate]

and if you do not get hit, why have this keystone

[paper lily]

longer considering u would regen 2 stacks during this time

[radiant frigate]

point remains that the stacks just vanish when you're diving shooters

[paper lily]

not my experience personally

[radiant frigate]

dodge slide enjoyer?

[paper lily]

well, i'd hope you would be the same when diving gunners

i use movetech with mk4 knife to speed slide at em

[radiant frigate]

no, dodge slide denier here

[plucky flax]

I still prefer it over the other 2 by far

[paper lily]

heavy hitter benefit just pales in comparison

lucky bullet is insane strong but yeah idk ppl don't rate it

likely cuz ogryn melee is kinda fun

[radiant frigate]

knife is the only ogryn melee i enjoy

the rest is just sluggish

[paper lily]

i can't believe i used knife without unstoppable force for so long

[plucky flax]

Mk3 shovel enjoyerer

[lethal lagoon]

10 seconds of constant hit, is 20-40 seconds of dodge sliding, maybe more

Given regen

Oh you don't dodge slide

Is that even an Ogryn

[marble crater]

I read on reddit that it's bugged and you also lose stacks when you block and from friendly fire, maybe that's why it feels so bad right now

[plucky flax]

Simply don't play ogryn.

[mental grail]

why are we in an in depth discussion about ogryn builds in the sibling channel?

[lethal lagoon]

So you are saying I should shoot Ogryns?

[mental grail]

[lethal lagoon]

Psykers and Ogryn are family

[marble crater]

As long as it's not my ogryn

I need those points, I want to unlock the last set of stances

[cloud sequoia]

3 speedrunners

they ditch me

[paper lily]

yeah the second u notice they're gonna do that u have to anchor down

they're actively rooting for you to die

cuz then u are also a speedrunner by deathwarping

[marble crater]

One more reason to use a dueling sword

[cloud sequoia]

im using it

too much pressure

[paper lily]

nothing i love more than pissing off a group of speedrunners by forcing them to wait for me anyway

[cloud sequoia]

[marble crater]

And then they get salty and vote kick you

[paper lily]

fine by me

if they didn't need a 4th and they're a 3 stack maybe they hsould have just q'd a private game

[plucky flax]

Just had a round like that. They all left me while I tried to do the jumping puzzle then I got trapped.

2 vets and a zealot they were freaking speed demons.

[paper lily]

sleeper

which puzzle

[plucky flax]

2 guys had hp stim while I was on last wound and I spammed "I NEED HEALING" but no one wanted to heal me.

[untold niche]

bro you should die in a corner right infront of the elevator

[paper lily]

archivum?

[mental grail]

I do this anyway when they park their fat asses in the firing line.

[plucky flax]

No the chasm logistratum one.

[paper lily]

@untold niche wdym

[untold niche]

like because

they wait for yo ut ocome to elevator right

then right before you reach the elvator

find some corner and aggro some ragers and big zombie horde

then because you are down

they cant elevator

[paper lily]

nah

[plucky flax]

Gonna attempt these 2 anyone wanna join? We're 2/4

[paper lily]

they'll just let you die

u have to survive the whole time for maximum grief potential

[untold niche]

as in at the end

if you are down at the end, they cant elevator

[paper lily]

they'll still just wait for u to die

[untold niche]

ya but the zombo might swarm them in elevator

[paper lily]

zealots got immo nades too so they don't care about extra horde

[untold niche]

that happened to me before :v

[paper lily]

@plucky flax i would but my wife rly wants to do that one

[untold niche]

i would but one ram died and 300 ms ping

[plucky flax]

You 2 can join.

[paper lily]

(she's not around)

[plucky flax]

We're going sedition.

[paper lily]

yea we were gonna do same thing as a duo

[untold niche]

i dont even know if my game ca nstart

[paper lily]

just gunlugger ogryn

[untold niche]

LOL

one ram just died

[plucky flax]

Ye i'll go ogryn for it to kill them super fast.

[untold niche]

i'll wait for you when u go vietnam

then finaly can play with you :v

assuming i havent quit DT by then\

also chrono ark is very fun

go buy

[plucky flax]

No.

[gentle meadow]

oops wrong channel

[paper lily]

just changes to ranged enemies @gentle meadow

[gentle meadow]

What changed?

[paper lily]

got rid of ranged pushback/stun

[gentle meadow]

oooooh

[paper lily]

it's not a bad pt but significantly more like optional

i still take it

[gentle meadow]

Yeah the no melee stun and extra zoomies is still nice.

[paper lily]

i'm a sucker for flat movespeed

[gentle meadow]

same :v

There's one movement speed node on my build that's just one point away and I've been wracking my brain how to get it

But I know it's not a good idea, I just wanna go faster lol

[paper lily]

for zealot?

i always miss out on 1 5% node on zealot, but i get the rest i think

[plucky flax]

Speed zealot

[upper sun]

did the game happen?

[plucky flax]

Yeah I did it.

[upper sun]

damn just got home

time for more holiday zealot shroudfield grind

[plucky flax]

I am watching football I suppose I can do meme afk ogryn heavy hitter grind.

Even though I got the 4500 armour set now.

So in fact, I won't do it.

[upper sun]

lmao you never know theyll prolly add more penance rewards

[plucky flax]

Yeah tru

[paper lily]

i did the shroudfield one with mk6 knife w/ haymaker

[plucky flax]

[paper lily]

that knife is almost serviceable

[plucky flax]

I did zealot penances in solo malice maelstrom.

[paper lily]

not a bad idea

[upper sun]

i fucking wish i had solo play

[paper lily]

he still had to have a friend q him in

[plucky flax]

Just play on a normal pc.

[upper sun]

malice is ideal for penance grinding

you can just tank shit while waiting for cooldowns

[plucky flax]

Yeah maelstorm malice has a lot of enemies but they are squishy.

So it's super nice.

Unless you get trapped/dogged.

[upper sun]

shocktroop malice was peak 😭

[paper lily]

i got to play 3 ranged only maels yesterday to finish up the 200 backstabbed ranged dudes one

[plucky flax]

Use many more try mod.

[paper lily]

ye that can help too

[plucky flax]

I use ranged modifier for my bubble penance.

Just cast it and chill.

[paper lily]

if ur a solo gamer obv gonna have issues actually q'ing

[blissful birch]

I always wondered whether ‘beloved’ was a ‘void tutor’ sort of thing or big E himself, heh

(Typed ‘bug E’, too much Hellldiving 💀）

[radiant frigate]

heavily implied to be Big E

[plucky flax]

It's my daddy tzeentch.

[upper sun]

double cooldown crit knife

YUP its time for shroudfield penance

[paper lily]

not getting the best shroudfield talent smh

[plucky flax]

I used both cdr for my penance too.

But I played with momentum to run faster.

[vestal fulcrum]

I didn't use it either

[plucky flax]

Same I only take the 6s stealth. XD

[upper sun]

i dont need revelation

[paper lily]

the tdr is insane

[vestal fulcrum]

It's not like it adds much. Second Wind is already quite busted for toughness uptime.

[upper sun]

its malice grind

[paper lily]

yea in malice who cares

[plucky flax]

I don't have enough points.

Give lvl 35.

[vestal fulcrum]

don't give us lv35 without buffing Blaze Trauma making the game harder

[plucky flax]

Tru

A new difficulty with even more elites and specials.

[upper sun]

man just level 31 is good enough for me

[paper lily]

honestly the tweaks they did to ai director were great

just vary spawns even more

[vestal fulcrum]

I just want to have more modifiers affecting pacing

[plucky flax]

With lvl 35 I would be to actually take keystone on vet.

[vestal fulcrum]

like Monstrous Specialists

[upper sun]

tag is nice!!!!

[marble crater]

Not doing momentum at the same time?

[upper sun]

i finished that i need the crit for more ults

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's the easiest keystone I can get to as I normally run the 20% ogryn damage talent.

[marble crater]

Fair enough

[plucky flax]

So it's already very near.

[paper lily]

i always end up running weapon specialist

way more engaging

[plucky flax]

Waiting for blaze trauma buff and momentum unnerf.

[stuck sinew]

For the love of the Emperor just make individual enemies harder, I want to use RTX at a reasonable frame rate please

[plucky flax]

Performance is ass after the recent hotfix.

[stuck sinew]

Make crushers not fall over like an unattended waffle

[plucky flax]

I know cache reset, but I am getting stutter now even after playing for 5+ games.

Performance was solid with patch 13. Then each patch after that made it worse and worse.

[prisma perch]

I have 2 blaze trauma staff and neither one is perfect, the one without the skin is what I just rolled. Thought new one could replace old one?

[upper sun]

im so done with this shit

one vet is actively shooting anyone i try to stealth kill

[plucky flax]

Yeah higher charge rate.

[plucky flax]

I can queue up a private malice maelstrom game for you.

[upper sun]

yeah actually that would be very nice

[plucky flax]

Aye I am watching football anyway so don't bother me.

[upper sun]

you dont have to redo your marcro afterwards right?

[plucky flax]

Nah I give up on that.

What map do you want to play in particular?

Pick from here https://maelstroom.net/

[upper sun]

/mmtimport ea0b0cb0-13cd-4129-be96-76c643165ef8
this?

[plucky flax]

I'll afk and die. Can ress me at the end when you get to the boss to kill it.

Oh ress me at mid event I can help you do that.

[thick tiger]

Is the 3 stack for Empowered Psionics modifier good for a Voidstrike + Duelling Sword + Smite build? Do I need an extra 2 stacks on Smite damage increase?

[vestal fulcrum]

What do you mean by "extra 2 stacks on Smite damage increase"?

[thick tiger]

Charged Up modifier for Empowered Psionics, which increases Smite's damage by 200% and 50% spread speed

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh, do you mean this upgrade?

[thick tiger]

Yes that one

[vestal fulcrum]

If I go EP, there's no way I'm not getting this

It lets you keep a comfortable pile of EP to spend

[radiant frigate]

it is a good modifier since you cannot get extra juice for your next smite until your cast ends otherwise

[thick tiger]

Alright will be keeping it then, thanks

[plucky flax]

@upper sun read

[upper sun]

yes hi

[upper sun]

sure

[marble crater]

What a service

[plucky flax]

I offer help for mid event too but he doesn't need.

[plucky flax]

I said I'd help mid event too.

This is too painful to watch.

[upper sun]

im ok

[round gull]

How the heck do I complete Cliffhanger penitence?

[rare mist]

i remeber doing it on vigil station back at the start of the game, it should still work

[marble crater]

Is he actually a good player?

[upper sun]

uhhh

[rare mist]

(start of the game as in it's lifespan, not the stage. It's the bridge in the end event)

[plucky flax]

He's on my fl but my chat is broken.

If your chat is not broken tell him to leave.

XD

Darktide fl. Not on steam fl.

[upper sun]

BRUH

THERES ALWAYS A VET

[marble crater]

@round gull this worked for me https://youtu.be/SiZp4X8YQww?t=1s

[round gull]

thanks,I'll try it,anyways I have 5/7 idk how... XD

[marble crater]

@upper sun

[plucky flax]

This man only have 1 monitor.

[upper sun]

i have another

but its nog plugged it

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

pretty sure i can solo the boss

🤔

[hasty kraken]

Does this work voidstrike charge attack?

[tired estuary]

Yes

[upper sun]

no

i did ok kiting tbh

@plucky flax thanks a bunch got socking stuff finally

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

and im at like 120/150

[plucky flax]

1 more game and should be done.

[upper sun]

ye

totally could have soloed the boss btw 😉

[plucky flax]

Okay do it.

[upper sun]

😨

ok tbh i did it on marty

@plucky flaxyou've been a big help thanks but i gotta eat and visit more family

its like a holiday or something

[plucky flax]

[paper lily]

boring

[upper sun]

ikr

[plucky flax]

It's bank holiday tomorrow.

No work.

[upper sun]

more family visits

[marble crater]

"Like a holiday or something"

[upper sun]

yerr

i got a candle

it went out

[paper lily]

time to ruin some more pubs with knife zealot

[marble crater]

On my knife zealot loadout I use the Reject title, just to announce it to everyone in the team

[plucky flax]

Best title. Like space cadet in hd2.

[upper sun]

rip hd2

[plucky flax]

I am just waiting for arc thrower bug fix.

Surge spammer 🤝 arc thrower spammer

[upper sun]

so you signed your life away to sony 😭

[plucky flax]

I did it when the game first came out.

[upper sun]

😭

[plucky flax]

It's only after relase that they made it optional.

Now they force it again. But I did have ps3 back in the day anyway. Used the old psn signin.

[tired estuary]

I'm never using ASS, its been tainted by the quitters

[upper sun]

im more opposed to ubisoft doing it or EA but im kinda happy some people are finally saying something

[marble crater]

I guess, but if you earned it fair then show it off

[upper sun]

run game
intro
log in again
agreement 1
intro 2
agreement 2
epilepsy warning
flash sale warning
dlc ad

tried to play call of duty it was hell

[late night]

been running surge/assail/ds. any obviously good nodes that im missing out on?

[plucky flax]

Combustion.

EE with assail is good too.

[late night]

i can maybe reach that, what should i drop

[plucky flax]

Hrm.. As much as it sucks maybe 6 stacks warp charges.

Oh and run mettle rather than the toughness on peril.

[late night]

gotcha, will give that shot ty

[plucky flax]

I manage to get all 3 tdr nodes on ogryn with a funky build.

[marble crater]

Good

[plucky flax]

Using rock though so no soften them up.

[paper lily]

very close to my surge build

i don't use kd or the connecting node

that's not to say they're not good nodes i just never need it, so i go ee which is up a huge amt of the time

very much recommend pc too if u can get that

[plucky flax]

The 4500 ogryn armour is decent

[marble crater]

It is, the other 3 not so much

[plucky flax]

Tru

[fathom totem]

I like all the 4500 armor. Outside the psyker pants. :p

[plucky flax]

I'm scared to use it.

Might get flamed.

[vernal temple]

almost looks like a non-heretic Crusher, just needs more armor plating

[strong gulch]

I swear the game knows when you are hunting for specific things. It goes out of its way to not give them to you.

[vernal temple]

That's just how life works in general

[strong gulch]

Darktide is like a cat that is like, "Pet me. Do it! .... I will cut you if you pet me."

[silk creek]

should i get 12.5% chance for empowered psionics or guaranteed on elite kill

[strong gulch]

Depends. If you are doing EP assail or BB, take elite kill.

If you are doing EP smite, take the other one. Be sure to pair EP smite with creeping flames.

[warm oasis]

Keep trying to ask a team to let me do one thing for the cliffhanger penance, they then do the exact opposite...

[silk creek]

thanks

[marble crater]

This worked for me without team coordination during a mission https://youtu.be/SiZp4X8YQww?t=1s

Doesn't even need setup, just smite and luck with enemies coming from that spot

[warm oasis]

Thanks, I’ll have to give that a shot

Been trying the bridges that extend once you finish the hacking in that one mission.

[marble crater]

Tried those too, and ledges and things, but the team just kills things. At that point you can mostly just play normally and smite up there without the team killing things

Only thing that can ruin it is no enemy horde coming from there, so you might have to run the mission a few times, souns less frustrating than always trying though

[paper lily]

https://i.imgur.com/PYC26qh.png tryin to duo cheese zealot penances on a5 lmao

[plucky flax]

Helping people do ASS but they keep going down.

[cinder moon]

if people are going down for ASS, they're not thirsty enough

[plucky flax]

We did on on the 3rd try.

Not me killing all the shooters.

[wet belfry]

Hmm

Yes

[untold niche]

@plucky flax what is your knife build for zealot?

My PC runs darktide at 30fps because of 1 ram stick

[plucky flax]

I never played this chaos waste and weave.

[untold niche]

.> typo

knife build for zealot

[plucky flax]

I use throwing knife chastise and momentum normally.

Momentum or piety.

What keystone you want?

[untold niche]

what keystone mean again

[strong gulch]

The purple nodes

at the end

[untold niche]

oh the purple

[plucky flax]

If you play vet you don't need.

[untold niche]

im not sure,
but i kind of want to run stealth, but i know chastide better for crit
Isn't it costly to go tknife --> chastise --> mommentum?

[rigid sky]

It's doable

[untold niche]

close to 2mil raw and no good cknife yet :v

[plucky flax]

If you want to run stealth let me know. But knife chastise for the extra speed is nice.

[untold niche]

in general i like stealth better, easier to do revives

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax just uploaded a tknife, chastise, and momentum build and playthrough.
https://youtu.be/cpAqq1lp3dw?si=16Pf2H2Ij7kLPEGf

[rigid sky]

Tbh all abilities are good with knife

Chorus even

[untold niche]

tell me truth mr agent
is this good

[plucky flax]

It's decent yes.

But wait for perks and blessings. Xd

[rigid sky]

Depends what hadron thinks tbh

[hardy delta]

360-380 good

[plucky flax]

Hadron has 90% chance to ruin it.

[untold niche]

fucking bricked

[rigid sky]

Precognition is good

[patent wing]

f

[rigid sky]

It's only probably bricked

If you get uncanny it's fine

Otherwise sad brick days

[patent wing]

its a mk3 thats not psykers pref anyway

[untold niche]

nah it for zealot

[rigid sky]

He's building for zealot

[patent wing]

ah

i always do that in the psyker channel

[plucky flax]

If you want to play stealth can do something like this

I use both mk3 and mk6 on zealot. On vet and psyker I prefer mk6.

If you don't need HR for safety remove that and put it to shield of contempt.

Or the stealth tdr node.

[untold niche]

wat HR

[plucky flax]

This extremely based ability.

[untold niche]

mommentum or piety better for cknife after nerfs?

[plucky flax]

They are both gud I use both. Momentum nerf hurts a bit.

But you still get the fast move speed and extra long dodge.

[rigid sky]

Until Death is the more important part imo

Holy rev is more optional

[plucky flax]

So by using that keystone you can just outrun stuff and be very safe.

[upper sun]

surviving with zero hp is not all that great

[untold niche]

this mandatory?

[plucky flax]

Nah go flak unyielding.

The 2 targets that take extra bleed damage.

[strong gulch]

Also launch yerself off bridges

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

[plucky flax]

YES. So many times I dodge and skid so far away to ledge myself.

https://tenor.com/view/watchmen-lubeman-ride-run-gif-15549865

[paper lily]

eh

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dab-dabbing-slide-and-away-we-go-gif-17858052

[paper lily]

that dagger aint bad

[untold niche]

dude almsot 2 mil dockets already

2 mil raw

where RNG god

even my caxe

not that bad

thankfully im nto building hammer

i heard 20 mil

[paper lily]

idk i never have issues crafting shit

[near wyvern]

No room for that. You want two +armour perks on it of your choice

[strong gulch]

I'm still mad at what hadron did to my staff rolls. 😭

[paper lily]

staves are legit where i got luckiest i think

i had like godroll staves before i played 5 missions at 30

[strong gulch]

Been farming for months for a base like this.

[paper lily]

the quell speed is ass tho

[upper sun]

i find donating to charity/praying for strength more useful than grinding when rolling for bases

[strong gulch]

It def could be better, but talents help. I can't stress this enough, months.

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Simply play grey weapons.

[strong gulch]

Let me choose sub 300 base rating and really embrace darkness.

[cinder moon]

y'all weaklings ain't still using your greys you got at level 1?

that's true power

[round gull]

Man,I hate when people doesn't hit the enemies you are stunning with smite

It's so frustating

[plucky flax]

It's so tru

[marble crater]

People overestimating smite's damage

[round gull]

People are dumb and don't know how smite works

And the worst part is that I died because non of my team was helping me with the horde while I was stunning

[plucky flax]

I can only suggest you be with your team and smite.

[marble crater]

I suggest assuming your team won't help and using smite with shriek to kill the horde yourself

[round gull]

yeah,that's what I'll do...

shriek?

[strong gulch]

They only do they when you are CC-ing around and objective.

[round gull]

sad

I usually die when I use smite because no one helps me with the horde when I'm CC-ing

[marble crater]

Venting shriek

[round gull]

OHHHHHH

[marble crater]

Smite, shriek at 85% peril, keep smiting, everything dead

[round gull]

No shield?

[marble crater]

No shield

[round gull]

I like shield :[

But IG that's what i have to do

[marble crater]

I also wouldn't smite a normal horde, to be fair, unless there are maulers, ragers or crushers in it

[plucky flax]

If you use shield then gotta stick closer to teammates so they can see you smiting.

[uneven mirage]

is there a good build for this penance? I swear to god, i either kill elites with unbuffed crystals, or teammates murder them when i use lightning

[plucky flax]

I use ep bb for that.

[marble crater]

EP Smite and hunting grounds

[round gull]

All the teammates always get spread

[round gull]

Do I just use my staff?

[marble crater]

Depends on the staff or melee weapon you use

[strong gulch]

85% peril and shreik +creeping flames will get you to 6 soulblaze stacks. That's enough to kill general horde/ trash fodder (also snipers).

EP smite + high peril creeping flames is enough to kill even ragers.

[round gull]

I use Deimos for elites

And Purgattus but i might change it

Maybe to void or trauma

[untold niche]

how

[upper sun]

need 2 people

[marble crater]

Purgatus deletes hordes, so yes use that

[upper sun]

or veri fast knifer

[dusky crag]

someone has to go through a hole in a wall at the start of the room

[round gull]

ig the problem is large distances

[upper sun]

look at the symbol above the door in the hole in the first cell

[strong gulch]

If you are generally taking purg, smite had a lot of overlap with purge. You might be better served with BB or assail.

[upper sun]

crack it for urself i wont spoil

[untold niche]

spoil

[upper sun]

i just did 💀

[marble crater]

If you use purgatus you don't want to use smite, BB or assail are better for that staff

[upper sun]

click the first two buttons on the entrance and exit to the controll room

the first cell should open

[round gull]

oh I understand

[marble crater]

Ah Potato already said that

[upper sun]

theres a hole there go through it

each door through it has a symbol above

with a button with the same symbol in the room

its a good puzzle tbh

forces people to talk to each other

[round gull]

that has to delete hordes,yeah

[dusky crag]

and thankfully the symbols aren't that hard to describe which makes it not a pain

[upper sun]

pray for me

[round gull]

only warp resistance

[rigid sky]

Shield smite is a nonbo

[upper sun]

nvm its fucked

[round gull]

LOL

[upper sun]

block exorcist

[untold niche]

i could walk thru first door, i interact with button on the right and nothign @upper sun

[upper sun]

symbol

[round gull]

you're right

[dusky crag]

oh then one will glow in the room you hit both at the same time (just spam the button)

[plucky flax]

BULWARK SQUAD ENSEMBLE!!!

[rigid sky]

Shield is great but not when you take smite, I really favour it with brain rupture because it gives you the space to leverage it better

Also purgatus smite, as was already pointed out, gives you nothing for long range

[strong gulch]

Might be unlocked if you intereatced with it. Try walking throught the closed doors. Could be visual bug.

[upper sun]

@untold niche one of the doors is a ghost door you can walk thru

[strong gulch]

@upper sun Might be unlocked if you interreacted with it. Try walking through the closed doors. Could be visual bug.

[untold niche]

yeah i walkjed through it

[strong gulch]

oh lol

[untold niche]

what does the last one do?

[round gull]

What's better?

1.Smite+Shriek+Warp Siphon

2.Smite+Shriek+EP

[plucky flax]

If you use smite a lot go ep. If you use your staff more go warp charges.

[strong gulch]

Warp resist isn't that big of an issue, especially on deimos since you can't chain charge it the way illisi can.

Also depends on how you play or the number of peril sources you have.

[round gull]

well,yeah.but having all 80% is so satisfying

[round gull]

tnx : D

[untold niche]

got it

100 plasteel

[dusky crag]

good job gamer

[strong gulch]

TRUE. I wish we could have all of them maxed. 😭

[round gull]

yeeeee

[plucky flax]

100% blaze trauma with blazing spirits t4.

$10 take my money

[round gull]

lol

[marble crater]

Most sane psyker

[round gull]

which aura is better for smite?

[plucky flax]

Always go cdr aura.

And take psykenetic's aura too.

More creeping flames spamming.

[round gull]

true

I was thinking it

Solidity is good for smite,no?

I mean less time to lower my peril

[marble crater]

I like it, most my builds use warp charges so I have to get it anyway, but I also use it on my other builds that use EP

[round gull]

yeah

It's so useful

[marble crater]

You can give this a try for purgatus, if you want to keep bubble

[round gull]

I think I'll only use bubble when I play with friends

[fresh reef]

:(

[round gull]

damm

[marble crater]

Then you can use shriek instead of bubble with the same build I guess

[fresh reef]

I see purgatus build discussion, I post talent tree

[upper sun]

based talent tree

wait wait wait

wheres creeping 😭

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

this is the creeping flames version but i also use bubble sometimes with purge

(sometimes i just go basket+keystoneless

[cinder moon]

no KD

[upper sun]

its ok i dont block

[cinder moon]

[plucky flax]

Where perfectiming?

[upper sun]

just go keystoneless...

[marble crater]

We aren't vets

[upper sun]

SG DD and were pretty much vets tbh

[marble crater]

No DD if you run keystoneless

[upper sun]

yeah ikno

but DD is crazy cheap too

they really gotta shrink WS that shit is stupid

[marble crater]

It really is

[wanton yacht]

Is it known that Kinetic Resonance (Brain Burst +75% charge speed -50% Peril Gain) stacks with itself if you manage to use your ability again before it expires? (doesn't refresh the 1st stack tho)

Been using it with the shield wall ability with 2x charges and its been ballin.

pop both shield and get Brain Bursts every sec. Nuke chunks off bosses or just delete several gunners while safely behind a shield or kill big boys. Empowered Psionics makes deleteing elites much faster for lowering the amount of ruptures to kill some tough mobs.

honestly it feels like this is the only way to make brain burst usable in situations where shit needs to absolutely die

Since I got shield, I'm not gimping the team either 🤔

[sacred crane]

does anyone know what the psyker shards are based off?

[upper sun]

yeah theyre pretty based alright

[marble crater]

Does it give you peril free BB?

[wanton yacht]

@manic halo Didn't even though you were here in this discord lmao. Also, look at what I found about Psyker 😏

[sacred crane]

you know what i mean

[wanton yacht]

I barely hit 100% by the time the buff expires. I don't recall if the free brain bursts were a factor in my shit memory.

[upper sun]

ye idk who it was but someone mentioned that here like 2 weeks ago

[fresh reef]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper sun]

its crazy with the blue stim

[wanton yacht]

Whats the Blue stim 👀

[sacred crane]

im also finding out how powerful gun psyker can actually be...

[upper sun]

celery stim

it gives you charge speed

[cinder moon]

celery lol

[wanton yacht]

Lmmaoooo wtf

[cinder moon]

celerity *

[fresh reef]

blueberry drugs + kinetic barrage = very hurt boss

[upper sun]

I KNOW WHAT I SAID

[wanton yacht]

Didn't think it'd affect charge speed but now I gotta test that brb

[sacred crane]

my favorite stim

[upper sun]

hell yeah

goes hard in stews

[cinder moon]

where the ranch

[sacred crane]

honey mustard dressing > ranch

[cinder moon]

gotta get some positive calories with that negative calorie food

i don't even like ranch tbh

[upper sun]

honey mustard makes for some good ham spice binder

[sacred crane]

honey mustard and bbq are the two best dipping sauces

[upper sun]

hell yeah

i love bbq sauce with eggs

[sacred crane]

im sorry what

[upper sun]

u heard me

[cinder moon]

clad sounding like he nukes eggs in the microwave in a mug

[upper sun]

i did that once it was awful

[cinder moon]

[plucky flax]

Bruh evertime I am trapped and teammate doesn't free me fast enough we wipe.

[sacred crane]

you could have said anything like chicken tenders or fries or burgers but NO im eating fucking bbq sauce with eggs

[upper sun]

havent you ever made an omlette and put a thin coating of bbq sauce on it

[plucky flax]

I hate green trappers and dogs so much.

[upper sun]

then dont get trapped its that easy

[marble crater]

Dodge and don't get trapped

[plucky flax]

That modifier would be okay if those 2 guys can't be green.

[marble crater]

Skill issue

[plucky flax]

Tru

[upper sun]

garlic sauce goes with tenders and wings

[sacred crane]

Smite (I dont use smite):

[upper sun]

BBQ SAUCE GOES ON EGGS

[sacred crane]

REAL

[plucky flax]

Yeah except they are immune to smite.

[sacred crane]

wait what

[plucky flax]

If they are green.

They are op.

And ignore stagger.

[gentle meadow]

What curios and perks are people running for psyker?

[upper sun]

you cant even push green dogs right you ahve to dodge?

[sacred crane]

well time to go assail

[cinder moon]

i put cheese on my omelettes

[sacred crane]

i run two health and 1 toughness

[plucky flax]

You can push green dog when they jump.

But you can't stagger when they haunch/run around.

[thorn cedar]

and only when they jump

[upper sun]

+3 stam 21 hp 17 toughness and perks like toughness combat ability hp whatever you like

[plucky flax]

Freaking green dogs and trappers are my bane.

[upper sun]

ye me too sometimes

[thorn cedar]

remember when green mutants would beat you to fucking death? good times

[upper sun]

BUT bbq is #1

[sacred crane]

these new psyker penaces are forcing me out of my habit of bb + shield + battery

[marble crater]

I run two toughness and one +3 stamina, with gunner resist, extra dockets extra health/toughness

[sacred crane]

but HOLY FUCK I CAN GET EVERY OTHER PENACE BESIDES FUCKING CLIFFHANGER I HATE CLIFFHANGER

[upper sun]

unironically psyker should have +2 stamina by default

[thorn cedar]

psyker doesnt even need stamina

[sacred crane]

unironically psyker should just be able to fly and teleport

[thorn cedar]

yea just use ur mind

[upper sun]

ive seen people get it in vigil station oblivium

[upper sun]

were mid psykers not top tier not bottom tier either just mid

[sacred crane]

I would have all of the "For the emporer" penaces if cliffhanger wasnt a bitch

[marble crater]

Just

[upper sun]

i can try to help

[sacred crane]

which level of psykers are we again

Also this reminds me, I think Seer is unironically the most powerful psyker

[upper sun]

ascension riser or vigil station are good options for it

[marble crater]

Very beginning of Hab Dreyko, also good

[sacred crane]

Problems:
Teammates killing hordes
Bots killing hordes

[upper sun]

seer is the craziest one so that does give them a boost

[sacred crane]

Well seer is implied to be speaking directly to the emporer, or at least a fragment of his mind

[upper sun]

yee

[sacred crane]

I believe over time, Seer will become more and more powerful and skilled

[upper sun]

the emperors fragments are kinda different people at this point i dont see why one wouldnt have a crush on one psyker

[marble crater]

Over time the Seer will get shot for heresy

[sacred crane]

BB:

[upper sun]

nah loner is the one you gotta worry about

[marble crater]

Both, honestly

[upper sun]

"for zeh emperor im sure"

savants are the only safe ones fr

[marble crater]

Or the comment at the start of one of the torrent missions, talking about how "great" it is

[sacred crane]

Also Seer feels like he doesnt even wanna fight

Like the ONLY ONE that doesnt wanna fight

[marble crater]

I have killed so many people, I'm glad they are not real

[sacred crane]

"Its dead, poor dog"

[bronze hound]

Guys, for the penance of the psionics keystone, does the warp weapons count or only the abilities listed below? smite, burst etc?

[strong gulch]

Until you pop SG and seer excitedly yells "KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL!"

Otherwise yeah

[sacred crane]

Its only for your blitz, I recommend just using smite for it on a horde

[bronze hound]

so smite spamfest again

[sacred crane]

Well gotta remember he also says
"I'm sorry but I have to hurt your now"

If I remember, its also implied he just attacks when the emporer tells him to

[sacred crane]

Yeah you gotta go back to being "that kind of psyker" again

otherwise, its not that hard

just time enducing

[bronze hound]

Oh shit, here we go again...

[sacred crane]

Honestly NONE of the new psyker penaces are hard, they just take awhile to complete

but hey, they look pretty cool

especially the "kill 40 enemies while in scriers" one

[upper sun]

its a lot easier on psyker tbh

agent help me get the kill 40 things on zealot

psyker i did by myself on low intensity malice

[dusky crag]

Not even too long too. A happy break until the ogryn penances

[sacred crane]

All I did is use it on a horde on heresy

[sacred crane]

Ima be fr I didnt look at any of the ogryn ones...or zealot and vet ones

[upper sun]

nah i went to vigil station my beloved walked over the ramp and bodyblocked my team from shooting

[sacred crane]

Honestly, playing gun psykers is like playing doom

[dusky crag]

The grindy ones are
Vet has the krak grenade one.
Zealot has backstabs, more backstabs and throwing knives.
And ogryn has heavy attacks adn getting bullets back

[sacred crane]

Psyker penaces are "Just use this ability and wait"

[polar drift]

What blitz ability is optimal with scrier's? I know this is likely a personal preference thing, but need assistance.

[upper sun]

assail kinda

but what ranged weapon do you use?

[mental grail]

Off topic but I love the way fem seer says that line

she usually gives off kind 40s auntie vibes

[polar drift]

Really bouncing back in forth between the revolver and autogun

[polar drift]

I also can't make a call between dueling and force sword