psyker-class

[fathom totem]

That's in auric

[plucky flax]

I only play sedition so fair enough.

[hardy stump]

should I go for it?

[fathom totem]

Yes yes psyker master. :p

[plucky flax]

Why not upgrade and see.

But it'll be tricky.

[hardy stump]

only have 1.5k plast left

Surge good on trauma?

[plucky flax]

No sadly.

[marble crater]

At the very least keep it for the crafting update, who knows what we can do then

Maybe we can unbrick all our stuff

[plucky flax]

You can upgrade surge into blazing spirits t4.

[fathom totem]

You know what a pain is on trauma? :p

stairs...

[plucky flax]

My daddy is FartShart CEO.

[hardy stump]

Surge dosnt work on the AOE right click?

[marble crater]

Yep, you can aim at the solid middle part that runs from top to bottom, but better just avoid stairs at all cost

[upper sun]

one more and well see

[hardy stump]

yeah surge dosnt seem to affect the AOE

well then its garbage blessing

[upper sun]

it has very good stats but you only need two good things

[marble crater]

Flak/Crit and Blazing/Nexus, you can do it, trust

[fathom totem]

That's a good base.

[upper sun]

nice

[plucky flax]

It's already blue and 0/4.

I'm afraid the chance of it becoming good is 0%.

[upper sun]

purple is fine blieve

[weary crane]

oooo

it isnt bricked

[upper sun]

BELIEVE

[plucky flax]

But yeah could go to purple and see.

[weary crane]

warp flurry is good but i kinda want surge

[plucky flax]

Surge on purga?

[marble crater]

Yes, but gamble. 99% of psykers stop crafting before getting their perfect blaue trauma

[upper sun]

THE EMPEROR IS OUR FORK I FEAR NO TOASTER

[round gull]

What is surge good for?

[patent wing]

just gimme the explosion perk from flamer

[upper sun]

bruh

[plucky flax]

Surge on purga is super based.

I use it myself.

[upper sun]

crit for stamina and upgrade nexus and its peak

[plucky flax]

16 stacks of soulblaze in 2 crits.

[patent wing]

x doubt

[rigid sky]

https://youtu.be/TYX7AVFFQR4?si=fST3KqBhJCVYEoUI

[weary crane]

Oh i thought surge was on purga nvm

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Nice

[plucky flax]

I'd go a damage perk.

Unyielding or so.

Good for fighting monsters.

[marble crater]

Mine has maniac, too cook both ragers equally well

[plucky flax]

Me I run away from dreg ragers.

They are scarier than scab ragers.

[weary crane]

On my zealot build i charge into them lol

[marble crater]

Just dodge now

[weary crane]

because parry

[round gull]

What's your opinion about Run 'n' Gun?

[marble crater]

Bad

[round gull]

ow

Really?

[marble crater]

Yes

[round gull]

awwww man

[rigid sky]

I feel like I prefer crit but unyielding is the other choice yes

[dense valley]

Psyker is a degenerate class
"Venting" Shriek = gooning
Scrier's Gaze = edging

[marble crater]

You can count good staff blessings on one hand, kind of. Nexus and Flurry for Purgatus and Surge, Nexus and Blazing or Flurry and Rending for Trauma, Nexus and Flurry or Nexus and Surge for Voidstrike

[round gull]

oh

I'll save your message

[upper sun]

other way round

[dense valley]

like when u shriek u literally coom all over the place w ur soul blaze

when scrier gaze u wouldd want to keep it from hitting 100 r9

[upper sun]

i dont feel like theres any good points in this debate tbh

[potent echo]

quelling while gazing? never

[rigid sky]

It's good if you get a little downtime

[paper lily]

the 50% threshold where gaze gets way harder to control peril wise is kinda nice to maintain

[leaden mulch]

I am getting bored with dueling sword, what else is good for hoard and special?

[rigid sky]

Illisi

Deimos is more anti-elite focused

[ornate hamlet]

dont let that stop you

[leaden mulch]

anything else?

[rigid sky]

Rashad maybe

[ornate hamlet]

that horde will die if you hit it with a deimos enough

[rigid sky]

Devil Claw if you bring something else for carapace

[leaden mulch]

devilclaw seem interesting, which version and what perks, blessing

[ornate hamlet]

your better off saving the devil claw for vet and zealot imo

they turn those weapons into monsters, in your hands its kinda meh

not completely unusable

[leaden mulch]

should I buy it for uncanny strike for psyker ?

[ornate hamlet]

i dont thind devil claw gets uncanny

[ornate hamlet]

oh

[leaden mulch]

sorry forgot to attatch image

[dense valley]

damn

[ornate hamlet]

how much

3k ish melkmoney

oh course, its either get it through melk or gamble

so grab if you can and there is nothing else

[rigid sky]

Combat blade 6 is an option

But you take that mostly for the mobility

Tbh I don't stray from the holy trinity myself

DS4, Deimos, Illisi

[ornate hamlet]

deimos my beloved

only interesting psykers melee

well there is obscuris but that weapon is useless

ok i take it back a little

ds2 and 5 are also interesting

ds4 is way to simple

[neon steppe]

Ds2 all the way, been spamming it since launch

[leaden mulch]

only 2.3k

[ornate hamlet]

your like me with the obscuris, for my first 50ish levels i used nothing but the obscuris

[ornate hamlet]

get it

do it now

[leaden mulch]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

uncanny 4 for knives

[leaden mulch]

alright capt

[ornate hamlet]

for only 2,3 k

[dense valley]

obscuris and deimos are just chain sword with cost lol

[ornate hamlet]

with no cleave and amazing single target and useless specials

i think the chain sword, one of them has a better special

i dont use chain swords alot

i just built one

last night

then went to play the new warhammer empire lord

in total war

[leaden mulch]

my stupid head didnt check if I already have uncanny 4 in my inventory, I just waste 2.3k on melk

not just 1 but 2

[ornate hamlet]

well uncanny 4 is nice

or did you have other knives XD

with uncanny 4 on em?

hey if you use them now you dont have to dismantle them

[leaden mulch]

yes with uncanny 4 and mercy killet

[ornate hamlet]

well now you get to use that knife

[leaden mulch]

btw what is the thing with Mercy killer, about bleeding

do it need to bleed to work or dont need weakspot if bleed

[cosmic sigil]

It needs bleed to work

So useless on a psyker

[leaden mulch]

I wish I could turn diamantine to plasteel

[ornate hamlet]

🧱

pick up plasteel

[leaden mulch]

ithink we all want that

[cosmic sigil]

Better go for riposte or precog than mercy

[weary crane]

No

[cosmic sigil]

You can do very well with the claw on a psyker. It's valid with sg + dd. If you need armor penetration you got revolver some staves or br

[cosmic sigil]

What no

[ornate hamlet]

you heard him

No

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

No

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

[upper sun]

maybe

[ornate hamlet]

[velvet ibex]

DD didn't show/work for me recently. is that the same for some of you guys?

[upper sun]

it should still work but the buff stacks are visually bugged

EP too

[velvet ibex]

ok thanks

[marble crater]

Warp charges are not, thankfully

[velvet ibex]

i had buff from the MS during two seconds but it never show my stacks

[sacred crane]

which uh tactical axe do yall recommend

[velvet ibex]

for EP it doesn't show in buff bar but i have the screen effect at least

[upper sun]

break free from siphon addiction

[marble crater]

None

[upper sun]

simply stop using it

[sacred crane]

wait are they that bad? worse than chainaxe?

[upper sun]

taxes are nice

issue is they're not super great against armor and dont have great clear

[marble crater]

I will not, because I must scream

[upper sun]

DD is so cheap and good now i cant say no

[sacred crane]

then uh what melee should i use as psyker cuz tired of force sword and dueling swordss

[upper sun]

with which ranged weapon?

[sacred crane]

void

[upper sun]

🤔 dclaw 4?

actually nvm any of the dclaws

[cosmic sigil]

Maybe not dc1...

[cosmic sigil]

Chainsword, claw, knife, axes

[sacred crane]

maybe knife...

idk what blessings to use with it tho

[leaden mulch]

requirement to give zarona to 2 shot crusher is insane
damage + pen must be atleast 79

[plucky flax]

Chainaxe is based on zealot. Big attack speed.

[upper sun]

its nice but i feel like it has less reach than knife

[plucky flax]

Yeah well knife is 2nd best zealot melee weapon.

[upper sun]

first is crusher right?

[sacred crane]

also, what map is best for cliffhanger

[plucky flax]

Combat axe but sure crusher works too if you believe it hard enough.

[rigid sky]

Tac axe 4 if you must use a tac axe

[upper sun]

rashad?

man

im not seeing it

[plucky flax]

Rashad/antax.

I use both.

[upper sun]

is it any good for marty?

[plucky flax]

It's super op on martyrdom specifically.

More than momentum.

[upper sun]

🤔

but what do you with crushers?

[plucky flax]

The attack speed is crazy and you 1 shot all chaffs.

Crushers? Heavy them.

[upper sun]

🤔

[plucky flax]

Heavy for monsters and crushers.

[paper lily]

i'm an achlys guy for zealot axes

[upper sun]

what bps are there until it starts going?

4 wound ok?

[plucky flax]

4 wounds more than fine when you have headtaker stacks.

I think even at no wound stack you can.

[upper sun]

🤔 i tried going full wounds and i kept failing to res people

[plucky flax]

I'll check real fast if I can 1 shot scab bruiser on no wound.

[upper sun]

i think i need block eff if i go full wound or something

[plucky flax]

Play stealth.

Stealth to ress and to boost damage on big targers.

[upper sun]

but i need muh charge

[plucky flax]

You attack very fast already with wounds.

[upper sun]

i need another soure of toughness tho

[plucky flax]

Yeah I can 1 shot scab bruiser with headtakers stacks at 0 wounds.

[upper sun]

i dont feel comfy playing without charge or momentum on a weapon

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

🤔

ill give it another try i do have a good rashad

[weary crane]

watch hadron brick this

[plucky flax]

Big damage against crusher with no + carapace

[plucky flax]

It's okie go maniac carapace riposte uncanny?

[upper sun]

not bad

[plucky flax]

With stealth you can kill it with the trick. Stealth just before the hit land so you get bonus damage for 2 hits.

[upper sun]

ye i learned about that trick recently too trying to grind out the shroudfield bullshit

[weary crane]

idk if its better than my old one

[plucky flax]

Rashad at 5 wounds and 5 headtaker stacks can 1 shot scab shotgunner and 2 shots both ragers.

It does some crazy ass damage against elites.

[weary crane]

Unstable power allows me to knockdown crushers

[plucky flax]

Any heavy 2 would do it on deimos.

[upper sun]

pretty sure you can do it without

[upper sun]

i think im locked to brutal/decimator on mine

[plucky flax]

Decimator used to be better pre 13. Now it's worse imo.

Bring back old decimator.

It goes to 5 stacks only for 10% power per stack. And you can get mutlple stacks per swing with each enemy hit.

[weary crane]

oh yeah it is just heavy 2

[plucky flax]

Now it's 10 stacks and stacks go up 1 by 1.

Ruined it.

[upper sun]

gotta love blessings

some are just straight out upgrades and some make you jump through hoops to get +1 damage

[weary crane]

3 shots

[weary crane]

Headtaker vs Smackdown

Worst blessing has got to be Exorcist, it might work with gaze but still very weak

[upper sun]

not even then

like bruh repeated?

why not make it quell 1% every 39 hits at that point

[paper lily]

i think it has the whiffed attack thing as well

like they just didn't update that one

so if u whiff it just resets stack

[sacred crane]

cliffhanger is such a bitch to get, mfing bots ruining my strat

[paper lily]

just use smite

u smite everything then look where u want them to go and release

[untold niche]

i would convert all my penance coins to dockets in a heart beat if its possible

ez dodge

level 26 on a5mael

[leaden mulch]

is thrust 4 good on combat axe?

any build that work on it?

[long wharf]

Caxes can be usable, but dueling sword is current meta for hitting weakspots right now

[marble crater]

I think combat axes use mostly brutal momentum and headtaker?

[upper sun]

you look like my next mistake

[marble crater]

Charge rate

[upper sun]

its fineeee

[jovial juniper]

Achlys Bro mentum + thrust
H1 repeat profit

[ionic frost]

trauma's the one that NEEDS high charge rate

the others get much lower benefit from it

[upper sun]

im gonna guess itll be around .98?

[marble crater]

Crafting update to let us change all 4 slots and freely move the % stats around for plasteel

[upper sun]

crafting update that throws hadron out of an airlock

[marble crater]

Nooo, I like her when she doesn't brick my weapons

[weary crane]

I like her sass

Hadron should oil up fr

[upper sun]

ladies and gents we have a success

[marble crater]

Not bad

[upper sun]

I am no longer #team flak maniac i am back to flak elites

AGENT LIED THERE IS NO TRAPPER 1 TAP NO CRIT MARK

[marble crater]

But what if you had 80% damage

[upper sun]

EXACTLY

the search continues

[leaden mulch]

I have a wildest dream, what if dueling sword have Thrust blessing

[upper sun]

😨

shovels have uncanny and thrust i wonder how it feels

[dense valley]

pretty much a win right?

[upper sun]

damn nice

ive been trying to get executor+uncanny+maniac on a deimos forever

[dense valley]

idk i find executor kinda ass

[upper sun]

ye but you get instantly 4 stacks of it on special activation

[dense valley]

like 1 body hit and its gone

wait fr ?

[upper sun]

ye

and one stack for force push

[dense valley]

damn nice

[upper sun]

if you have it and uncanny you get 4 stacks of both on special activation

[marble crater]

Pretty nice

[untold niche]

]

[plucky flax]

I prefer uncanny decimator on shovel. But then I only like the standard shovel.

[upper sun]

i have a thrust decimator one but its mk3

i really like it tbh

[plucky flax]

P gun and standard shovel is my comfy spot

[marble crater]

Why does the armory not want to sell me good stuff

[wet belfry]

ive seen dozens of humans in the wild treating their wounds with plants

This is nothing special.

[marble crater]

Special enough that this is the first time scientists have observed it in the wild

[wet belfry]

Thats because scientists are discrimantory in what animals they view.

[supple dock]

apes strong together

[supple dock]

I've seen lemons used by monkeys for medicinal properties

[marble crater]

Did you record it?

[supple dock]

not in person you fuck

[marble crater]

Were those wild monkeys?

[supple dock]

yeee

Dad monkey tried to fuck up child monkey

Mother monkey pulled it away and cleaned its wounds with lemon

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

Well, if you didn't record it then it doesn't count I guess

[supple dock]

[marble crater]

I don't make the rules, I'm sure they have seen it before, but just didn't actually record it?

[supple dock]

Me when I hit "delete" on your childhood videos

literally never a child

[marble crater]

Why would you have my childhood videos?

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/bTAAU.gif

[upper sun]

its true he was made in a lab as part of a super darktide player project

[marble crater]

I wish, then the Ascension Riser mission earlier today wouldn't have taken 52 minutes

[supple dock]

I had a guy purposefully throw a game last night because i refused to stop saying vacuum capsule

The anger was so funny

[upper sun]

imagine being that salty

[marble crater]

That's still better than the drunk guy who kept saying "Smooooth operater" over and over again I had on the team once

[supple dock]

And then he called me a child because I said "no" and then "k" when he threatened to leave

And then he didn't leave when I showed I didn't care

He then piddled around until everyone died and then ran himself off a ledge

oh, not before namedropping Skudie for.. some reason

[marble crater]

That last part sounds random

Maybe skudie is also a vacuum capsule enjoyer

[supple dock]

She is

But like

??

So are lots of other people

Either way, I'm glad I got to frustrate someone to go to such lengths by just pressing spacebar

[marble crater]

I only saw a post on reddit about it like two days ago, never even had it in a mission. I didn't know this was a thing before Thursday

[upper sun]

i always enjoy vacume spam

and i also like the people who say NO after each cheer

[supple dock]

I've been having in game arguments with a friend

"Mine!" "No, mine!"

For like the entire run

[upper sun]

"bro you are using a staff FUCK OFF YOU DONT NEED AMMO"

[supple dock]

We don't even know what "it" is

[upper sun]

"I NeEEEd AmMooO"

[supple dock]

We just want it

[plucky flax]

Me spamming 'NO!' voice line constantly.

[supple dock]

vacuum capsule is bound to dodge for me

😄

[warm oasis]

Any advice for the cliffhanger penance?

[supple dock]

If you ctrl + f "cliffhanger" I'm sure you'll find lots of advice

Since we get that question often

Tons of suggestions made

[marble crater]

Someone should write a penance guide and bribe the mods to pin it

[cold ivy]

if you shout into one of the out of bounds areas where mobs are stacking up and getting ready to climb over a fence, some of them count as cliffs

[round gull]

Guys is Terrifying Barrage good for Surge staff?

[plucky flax]

No

[round gull]

awwwww man

why not?

It really sounds well,no?

[plucky flax]

Nah you want the damage from nexus and the charge speed from flurry.

[round gull]

oh

well makes kinda sense

Is a good idea to use surge staff with BB?

[radiant frigate]

1. psyker spellcasting also has a lot of suppression
2. things you want suppressed are usually not with 8m of you
3. better blessings exist

in short, low impact

[round gull]

well,saying that you're right

[plucky flax]

They do sort of the same job.

You can play it if you want of course.

[round gull]

I played with purgatus

[upper sun]

no

[round gull]

[supple dock]

spam LMB there's your terrifying barrage

not even memeing

LMB is savage

[upper sun]

barrage should be removed from the game and whoever made it should have all of their shoes soaked in cold water in the middle of winter right before they have to buy groceries

[round gull]

yeah,and probably even better

[vestal fulcrum]

1 last penance to be thoroughly done with class penances

[plucky flax]

Teach me the ogryn way.

[vestal fulcrum]

BLO penance sucks
HH penance sucks
Frag bombs penance sucks

the rest is easy

:)

[marble crater]

Hit a lot of things

[supple dock]

I thlammed my penith in the car door.

[plucky flax]

I think I can get 4500 eventually from the mission penances anyway.

[upper sun]

🤔 why would that effect ur speech

[plucky flax]

Ogryn can suck it.

[marble crater]

Suck what

[plucky flax]

Some warp lolli.

[supple dock]

https://youtu.be/Ip56srPPq0I

[upper sun]

knife kills at 480/500
shroudfield kills 61/150
longer kills at 171/200

hate stealth so much

[plucky flax]

[vestal fulcrum]

Heavy Sword 7 was a lifesaver for me re: Loner and Invis kills

It's so easy to push a shooter and backstab it

or matador a special/elite

[upper sun]

whats a backstab

i only play crusher or evi

[vestal fulcrum]

any kill that ends with a blow dealt at 180 degrees by you, i.e., behind the target's "back"

[upper sun]

really

i thought it was only heavy attacks

so knife kills should also count

[vestal fulcrum]

knife as in blades of faith, or combat blade?

[upper sun]

throwing ye

[vestal fulcrum]

IDK if they do honestly

it doesn't matter greatly, blades are best reserved for elites/specials regardless

[paper lily]

stealth is aight

i think u can gimmick the backstab by turning ur camera like an idiot

[supple dock]

need to use a knife and make aggressive microflicks to look like you know how to play

[spice veldt]

aggressive microflicks (camera shaking from adrenaline as the meth courses through your veins)

[plucky flax]

I was born with loner aura. Molded in the dark with stealth.

[upper sun]

that shit hurts my wrists

[paper lily]

okay there shadow the hedgehog

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

What to do for zealot

[vestal fulcrum]

Replace Flesh Tearer with Uncanny, replace poxers perk with sth else

[supple dock]

isn't bleed good though?

[vestal fulcrum]

You can also leave Flesh Tearer and replace Riposte, but I'm not the biggest Flesh Tearer fan. It only ever matters against bosses

[plucky flax]

I prefer lacerate on zealot.

Or run double bleed.

[mighty olive]

Flesh terror is really good

[plucky flax]

Carapace unyielding and double bleed.

[mighty olive]

If you're using dd and scruors it just wrecks hordes and stuff

Scriors*

I use flesh terror and uncanny on mine

[marble crater]

I will just do both builds

[mighty olive]

Crit and unyielding

[plucky flax]

For the master.

[supple dock]

I remember reading some German games straight up don't allow this

Can't desecrate corpses

[radiant frigate]

it is a rude thing to do

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/blRIR.gif

[plucky flax]

The master bade me.

[paper lily]

if ur doing the backstab on shooter mission there's a ranged only hab dreyko rn

[mental grail]

germans are pussies confirmed

[mental grail]

Wait, are missions instanced or region wide?

[fresh reef]

Mk2 DS users, I have abandoned my DS4 ways

mostly because I realized that I do the exact same thing with either weapon

[median sorrel]

bro what even....lower level missions are the weirdest places i swear

was doing some to level a psyker and dude refused to get into the arilock

the others didnt kick him

but did kick me

[paper lily]

just sit there and take the L

[median sorrel]

bro what

[paper lily]

means u got griefed by a 3 stack, or a 3 stack wanted their 4th to sneak in or some shit

knife is so unenjoyable

[upper sun]

mk2 has lower damage than mk4

[paper lily]

i think if the special wasn't ass i'd probably like it more

[fresh reef]

I am aware

[upper sun]

special is a good combo rest

[paper lily]

i'm lowkey comparing it to ds4 special

ds4 doesn't matter what i stab it's getting stunned

[upper sun]

t-thanks brunt

i really needed this

[vernal temple]

finally

that bubble bullshit was annoying

[upper sun]

poor zealot

[marble crater]

I played one game of knife zealot and now my finger is broken

[round gull]

Idk what to think about BB

It's good but a veteran can deal faster with big enemies

Or at least that's my impression

[marble crater]

I use BB on Trauma and use it to take out snipers, dogs, trappers, flamers etc. Sometimes gunners

Every build should be able to handle most things, the veteran won't always be able to deal with them, be it because of build, because they are busy with something else or because you don't have a vet at all

[round gull]

well

yeah

Sometimes i feel that Assail is like way better

But when i play it...

It's bad af

[marble crater]

Sadly no Psykentic's Aura with Assail

[round gull]

oh

[round gull]

With Trauma?

Is Trauma good?

[spice veldt]

ye
best generalist staff we have

[round gull]

oh frick

I thought it was a bad staff

[mighty olive]

Debatable

[round gull]

XD

[marble crater]

Trauma is great, but we meme it's bad to get it buffed

(Please buff Trauma by the way)

[mighty olive]

Try it and form your own opinion of it, I myself hate trauma and think void is a great overall staff

[round gull]

void is really good

I proved it and I like it

:]

[mighty olive]

It's my fav xD

[round gull]

yeah

It's so useful

[mighty olive]

Amen!

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FUCKING HATE BACKSTABS

[round gull]

[spice veldt]

it's the best generalist because it can deal with melee deathballs fairly well and offer safety

[upper sun]

why do i need backstabs only on ranged enemies thats bs

[marble crater]

Because flanking roleplay

[supple dock]

"trauma is great" do you wanna talk about this

[upper sun]

thats fine and all

but WHY IS IT UNDER LONER

someone is always riding my ass even with a knife going at mach 10

[spice veldt]

they let the knife zealot playtesters cook too much

[marble crater]

Not really

[upper sun]

"hey cant let this dipshit zealot run too far ahead" BRO PLEASE let me just get 10 more kills

[mental grail]

As long as you have EP or KR it's viable

it allows you to easily kill large targets without spending ammo, and helps lessen the load on your vet

[mental grail]

Pretty good, not as kino as the void staff, but

I personally hate using trauma rather than hating the staff itself

it goes into the "staffs I like seeing other people use" alongside purg

[round gull]

I've proved it

And i like it

It's so good agains waves

[round gull]

I feel like i have to wait a lot to hit

Even tho i have EP

[upper sun]

is helios anyone here?

[ionic sorrel]

nope

[upper sun]

theyre pretty good

[shy willow]

@lethal lagoon been using your smite build, great results so far, even if my team I was using it with was less then satisfactory

[lethal lagoon]

The game is not built to handle EP smite.
Watch out for IQ damage though.

[shy willow]

just two games and I was up to 1200

[lethal lagoon]

[shy willow]

good number of elite kills too

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[shy willow]

the only big issue is gunners

outside the range of my surge staff

[lethal lagoon]

You can slide dodge kind forwards while holding smite to catch further things.

[marble crater]

Just walk up the them with deflector

[lethal lagoon]

But yeah, 24m Surge range depending on the map can be

[supple dock]

im not built to hanle the crige this spreads

[lethal lagoon]

But after a while you just get used to pushing forward agaisnt gunners

[supple dock]

oh yeah walking down gunner positions is the strongest point of surge imo

[paper lily]

if gunners are really an issue u can get ee

i always take it on surge builds

[lethal lagoon]

You can definitely die pretty easily, but at the same time once you get used to it, Surge is just straight up anti gunner

You can auto-walk with surge agaisnt gunners

[supple dock]

What I normally tell people is that psyker is very survivable... if you're prepared

the moment you're caught offguard you explode

[lethal lagoon]

Glass Tank

[supple dock]

trueee

[lethal lagoon]

Fuck the cannon, we the whole tank

[lethal lagoon]

I think it's important to mention you've mastered Surge canceling to a crazy degree when recommending EE

[paper lily]

this is true

[lethal lagoon]

Normal surge usage EE is kind of a point waste

[paper lily]

pretty sure surge lmb still gets surge staff crit tho

tbf i also quell cancel my lmbs

[lethal lagoon]

It's opposite, we are pretty sure rmb gets surge staff crit

Fatshark tooltips be wild

[paper lily]

hmm

can probably just check...

[round gull]

Is it troll to use the dome on gunners to avoid them shooting?

[paper lily]

probably better to use between u and gunners

since dome has effects that are beneficial to ur team

[round gull]

Yeah

Idk if barrier would be better

It can have good results

And you can have 2

[paper lily]

    forcestaff_p3_m1_single_shot = {
        time_scale = lerpable_timescale(1.5),
        critical_strike = {
            chance_modifier = {
                lerp_perfect = 0.25,
                lerp_basic = 0.05
            }
        }
    },
    forcestaff_p3_m1_chain_lightning = {
        critical_strike = {
            chance_modifier = {
                lerp_perfect = 0.25,
                lerp_basic = 0.05
            }
        }
    },```

looks the same crit value to me

only problem with barrier is elites deleting all their hp when they hit it

[round gull]

Oof

[lethal lagoon]

I wonder why they never fix the tooltips

[round gull]

Elites suck

And shortgunners

They can delete your health

In seconds

[marble crater]

No, it's one of the uses for it, maybe in cases where your team is too spread out to be in the bubble together

[round gull]

I ment using the bubble on the gunners

Like only the gunners inside

So they can't shoot anymore

😅

[mental grail]

[marble crater]

Yeah I know

[mental grail]

gunners and shotgunners suck cock

hate those guys

like running ep assail simply to fuck them over

[round gull]

It's so satisfying

[round gull]

[round gull]

Yeeeeaaaaaahhhh

The most annoying guys in all the game

[lethal lagoon]

When a PC stack kills a dozen shotgunners

[round gull]

And if that was not enough,they always spawn in group,so when you try to kill one you end up being a cheese

[round gull]

PC?

[paper lily]

Psyker is the only class I get mad at ppl killing elites on

[lethal lagoon]

Perilous Combustion

[round gull]

Ohhh

[lethal lagoon]

Kill 3-4 shotgunners in a group and they all die

And your name goes brrrr in the top left

[round gull]

XDDD

[supple dock]

psyker is too hard to play ):

[paper lily]

They're so forgiving

[round gull]

And which ability?BB,Smite,Assail?

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't matter

[radiant frigate]

simply cast the disintegration orb in their general direction

[mental grail]

Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside

[radiant frigate]

they go boom and die

[round gull]

Maybe with the crit stuff and a charged attack of void staff and you destroy them

The 5 weak points attacks and crits

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[mental grail]

Only thing better is killing a whole group of poxhounds on a hunting grounds mission and seeing

{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound
{{player}} killed poxhound

[round gull]

That has to be so frickin satisfying

[mental grail]

emperor bless assail

[round gull]

LOL

[radiant frigate]

true aim + voidstrike + surge = Yes

[true lake]

i did that when assail first came out and it was great lol

[round gull]

Assail is very good but when I play it seems to be shit

So...

[mental grail]

Wydm?

[true lake]

its not as strong as it once was

its meant more as a quick chew through a bunch of weak enemies

[mental grail]

It's one of the stronger blitzes in the game, you just can't use it as a second gun anymore

[true lake]

it does like nothing to stronger enemies

[round gull]

I rarely get crits or head shots and even tho I aim

[mental grail]

Why are you aiming with assail

[round gull]

And I do low damage

[true lake]

assail is made to not need to be aimed lol

[spice veldt]

it's fine against stronger enemies

unless you mean maulers/crushers

[true lake]

mainly armored guys yeah

[spice veldt]

in which case you can't uncanny meme them yeah

[true lake]

thats what your sword is for

[round gull]

I just spam it?

[mental grail]

It's bad against cara so maulers and bulwarks/crushers are a no go

[radiant frigate]

siblings i might be crossing over into zealot

[spice veldt]

you could farm true aim stacks or build up malefic to get the most out of it

[true lake]

i prefer to keep assail open for quick horde that spawned on me rather than a couple specials

[spice veldt]

run rending trauma bump its ADMs against flak if you're into that as well

[round gull]

In general BB is better for big boys

[true lake]

maulers what you want to do is sword to their torso, they got flak there instead of carapace

charged deimos to their gut does wonders

[mental grail]

I do both/ it's good for clearing a quick horde or popping a group of specials that have spawned

[spice veldt]

so sad that they took this away from us https://streamable.com/c2jbm5

[upper sun]

if you can survive a match on psyker you'll be a better than average zealot

[round gull]

My beloved says you're dreaming

[upper sun]

but zealot still keeps throwing knife blessings

[spice veldt]

it eez what it eez

FLY MY SCARABS

[round gull]

Yeah,also what happens is that the proyectiles trayectory is so weird and it travels all the map until it reaches the enemy,to not even killing him,so annoying

[spice veldt]

as long as you're not strictly expecting assail as a main weapon, it should feel good

the lock-on for assail works like this: If the shards are within a certain distance of an enemy, and your cursor is over them, then it will lock onto them

[round gull]

I think that's my problem XD

[spice veldt]

it's a weapon with really good quickswap properties

0.2s to launch the first shard and 0.3s for the second, and you can aim the shards while you've swapped to other weapons

[lethal lagoon]

Handcannon Assasil was a wild time

[spice veldt]

i'm of the opinion that they should kneecap it to 5 shards and change the regen talent into "On weakspot hit, gain +30% faster regen for 1 second" to make it more explicit that you shouldn't be using it as a main weapon

[true lake]

i feel its good where it is rn, i find myself taking out good portions of hordes but also running out if i use it for a few seconds too long

in which case slaughterer deimos time

[spice veldt]

another pre-nerf uncanny assail moment https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

[round gull]

Do you use Deimos?

[true lake]

i havent switched off my deimos since i first built it

[round gull]

Tbf Deimos deals so much damage

And which staff do you use?

[true lake]

sure it isnt a horde killer but thats what my other stuff is for

right now i got purgatus with brain rupture

EP and shields

[round gull]

Huuuh

Oh

[true lake]

purgatus helps me weaken all the chaff

even if i dont got the perfect burn build setup

[round gull]

I thought that the other ability from the right was a good combo with assail

Spoiler it was not

[true lake]

for assail most people choose EP, havent seen any of the other two really

[spice veldt]

scrier's?

[true lake]

scrier is a weird ability

[spice veldt]

yeah the peril gen from scrier's + assail is eh

[round gull]

The one that you peril increases

[spice veldt]

that's the one thing i don't like about it

[round gull]

And you get more damage

[spice veldt]

cuz i have to devote mental attention if i want to spam assail and have scrier's up at the same time

[round gull]

That ability is so fucking weird

[true lake]

i thought scrier would be great too but the peril gen is hard to manage on top of needing to use your blitz and staff often

[round gull]

Yeah

Quite bad

[true lake]

its 100% more of a berzerker ability for melee focused builds

which feels weird on a class not really made for that

[round gull]

Personally shield or bubble are better a better choice

Helps you to support your team

[true lake]

shield is good middle ground

[spice veldt]

i wonder if i'll enjoy it more once we get a proper single-target precision staff

[true lake]

i like the vent but it isnt too useful unless you are near constantly using staff and blitz or are going full burn

[round gull]

Yeah

Shields are more useful in close areas

However in more open areas the bubble is GOAT

[true lake]

i use normal shields to make brain rupture more funi

and also because snipers and gunners suck

[round gull]

Oh right the talent that increases BB speed

[ionic sorrel]

That's a good idea

[round gull]

I never thought about using it with BB

[true lake]

makes BB feel as fun as it used to back in the day

[round gull]

That's very good idea,yeah

[true lake]

easily got the one penance with it without even trying

the kill 4 specials/elites within a short time or whatever it was

[round gull]

Lol

Thanks for that idea

I'll prove it whenever I can

[true lake]

also is fun to use against monstrosities

might make the 80% of damage to one in a private heresy+ not too hard

[round gull]

Do they crash against the shield?

That would be hell funny

[true lake]

the normal flat shields no, the most it does is stun specials

monstrosities and unyielding ignore it i think

[round gull]

Awwww

[true lake]

watched beast of nurgle just slide through it on its way to me due to how much dps i was doing lol

he got a little angry

[round gull]

LOL

Then you use BB,shield and EP,right?

[true lake]

yup

[round gull]

EP with BB is too good

I love how you can kill by just selecting one guy,going back to the wall and killing him without even looking at him

The BB sneaker

[true lake]

you can also precharge it with holding RMB

and just click and instant pop

[round gull]

Yeah

I know

Sometimes I can't do it

Because it just doesn't give me time to ore-charge it

*pre

[spice veldt]

you can sprint and slide around while precharging

during the downtimes when there's nothing to do

or if you're greedy for elite/special kills like me

also generates no peril if you have an EP charge so y not (besidees being slowed)

[round gull]

I'm always back because I hear something and I wait charging it until it shows

[true lake]

i only do it when i know for sure im about to run into a particularly annoying elite/special

no reason to really be using your brain burst anyway unless its a special or something anyway

[round gull]

I love killing dogs with precharged BB

And ofc with smite

Smite is so satisfying

[true lake]

i never actually used smite

[round gull]

No?

Dang

[true lake]

seen it in use tho, its pretty cool

[round gull]

Yeeeeee

[true lake]

just not as impressive as i wish it was for the bigger hordes

good at stunlocking specials and elites tho

[round gull]

It helps a lot to the team,only when they attack to the enemies you are cc'ing

[round gull]

Yeah,really good

And for mutants

You can slow down a mutant

Funny

[proud mantle]

this is honestly a vibe is this just low settings or does this go beyond that

[mental grail]

Bro what the hell are those settings

[proud mantle]

darktide mobile

but fr i would want that cause my game chugs at times

[round gull]

Yeah

[true lake]

my game chugs bad and i dont know what to really do to fix it

[round gull]

That happens

[true lake]

i have it on pretty much the lowest settings

[proud mantle]

and ive experienced everything to the point where the visuals dont matter as much to me anymore

[true lake]

honestly the game looks fine even with low settings

most everything is either poop brown, metal grey, or pus green anyway

got to love your grimdark settings

[spice veldt]

ultrathin laptop gaming

[spice veldt]

it's beyond since i had to go into user_settings.config and set some texture stuff to -1 for it

in exchange for extremely marginal benefits since i'm cpu bound anyways

[prime elk]

nah think of it as the psyker version of exec stance.... except better

[spice veldt]

exe's stance slander

[silk ore]

get him boys

[shy willow]

@lethal lagoon just carried a high int clownshow of a match with your psyker build, holy shit

[mental grail]

which one?

[shy willow]

empowered smite

we had two clowns trying to do archive's jumping puzzle in high int

they died, quit

horde started

one joined in

died, quit

the remaining vet with me died, he just got swarmed

he stayed, we had two more join in to replace the two leavers

they just ran circles around the center library in archivum

constantly fending off attacks for 10 minutes

eventually they got cornered, and I along with them

like I'm trying to point them forward and they're backtracking in a circle

they died, quit

I got downed

bot ressed me

so its me and two bots now

an ogryn joins in

and finally the two of us and the bot pushes towards the exit

bot doesn't get replaced for another 5 minutes until we manage to rescue our vet

I had to leave our ogryn to tank a half dozen gunners and a reaper on the bridge, luckily he had a slab shield

because the horde coming in behind us was massive and our bot couldn't hold them

braindead empowered smite for the win, I lost IQ points from both that and my teammates

[cinder moon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[potent echo]

Epee smite

[lethal lagoon]

[mental grail]

I don't think she likes us guys

[potent echo]

Does it have to do with how many hestia points you have

[mental grail]

no, she just fucking hates psykers lol

[potent echo]

Lore accurate

[mental grail]

rookie zealots get treated nicely

[potent echo]

Sefoni needs to talk on missions more

[lyric moth]

Are there any perks/blessing that can affect my smite?

I literally just use smite lmfao rarely pulling out the weapon to kill something

[potent echo]

Take EP and vent and you good

[rigid folio]

what staff you guys think is best for carapaced armoured?

[potent echo]

Voidstaff handsdown for killing

Trauma for making them wish they never existed

Surge is passable

[rigid folio]

thank you 🙏

[strong gulch]

Pray this level 36 psyker.

I hope they do LMB spam

[mental grail]

To be fair, voidstrike is good enough to be perfectly serviceable without perks, the base stats are adequate.

Pray for this veteran however

[strong gulch]

NOOOOOOOOO 😭

[mental grail]

Which terrible choice are you taking? Sprint efficiency or sustained fire???

[strong gulch]

I'm taking sad and hoping crafting update will help 🥲

[true lake]

its a trauma staff it would be real dumb to keep sustained fire

warp nexus cool tho

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax Look what hadron did to me.

[plucky flax]

Damn what a base

[true lake]

yeah great base

[plucky flax]

Keep it I guess crafting rework will fix it next year

[true lake]

another crafting rework?

[plucky flax]

We had one so far?

They only let us change both perks or both blessings

[empty trellis]

Yo can someone help me get a sucker armor where I have to do 50percent damage to a monstrosity I need like two people

“Psyker” mb

[true lake]

idk why crafting really would need a rework at all other than to make it closer to vermintide

[spice veldt]

very grindy and not very interesting even without the grind

and the progression has a lot of rng

like, even without the grind, the progression would still be very variable

you could get a godroll from the getgo, or you require some rolls, or you require a lot of rolls
and ideally the progression would be steady

if I invest materials into something, I want to feel that I am working toward something instead of gambling (e.g., typical upgrade systems where you invest a resource to deterministically unlock something)

also there's basically no inventory management system and there's also a memory leak associated with having too many items in your inventory

and i imagine that they don't want to continue with a system where players are incentivized to hoard a shit ton of items

I for one welcome it so that entering my psyker inventory doesn't cause a crash

[plucky flax]

I have this. Too many items

[strong gulch]

Same. Too many items.

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine if it was Diablo, and you loaded every players inventory in the hub

[lunar hollow]

it's very annoying that the progression system has only the vaguest idea of how many hours you need to put in to get an item you want

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah but the crafting system is also basically the only end-game content.

I don't know how they are going to replace it. Because even if the playerbase is temporarily happy, it might nuke it.

[lunar hollow]

it's probably the most barebones implementation of endgame grind you could really have

[lethal lagoon]

It is indeed not good

[lunar hollow]

that is the reason you can't just "break the locks", though, there's literally nothing else if not that

[lethal lagoon]

I curse this game every day for having such great combat

[lunar hollow]

😔

[plucky flax]

Give me single player open world rpg game with this fps melee combat

Maybe tes6 in 2030

[lunar hollow]

i have faith in bigfish to eventually make the game what it shouldve released as

[lethal lagoon]

Avowed looks like it matches that description, but of course the combat won't feel as good

[plucky flax]

4 staves since release

[lunar hollow]

that is the biggest crime

[lethal lagoon]

Ehhh I kind of feel like they did the staves really right. They are basically 4 subclasses.

On top of the actual "sub" classes psyker has

They play so different, no class really has that

[plucky flax]

Yeah where is my bolt staff though?

[lethal lagoon]

I want a beam staff

[plucky flax]

I want my sniper back

[lethal lagoon]

I want to cover heretics with my beams

[plucky flax]

Void sucks so bad compared to bolt.

I can feel an illisi bolt build.

[lethal lagoon]

pew pew then woo woo then wishu wishu

[plucky flax]

Actually I used to play knife bolt fire walk in vt2.

So a knife could work too but illisi is op

[lethal lagoon]

I never played vt2 that much because my internet was shit and didn't have an easy rejoin like DT

I went back and played it, but it's tough to downgrade combat wise

Only got a few hours

[plucky flax]

Host your own game and make it bad for everyone

[lethal lagoon]

Thankfully, I live next to a cell tower and t-mobile internet came to my area

I was saved

[plucky flax]

In vt2 the better the host pc the more enemies spawn.

So when I host shits get crazy

[strong gulch]

I miss VT2, but it feels so jank compared to darktide.

[lethal lagoon]

Is there a cap to that?

[plucky flax]

Tru but vt3 would be sweet with upgraded dt combat. And 500% more rng

[vestal fulcrum]

And 100% more downgraded systems

[plucky flax]

Not sure what they would do. Vt3 or dt2 next

[vestal fulcrum]

Some sort of Tide certainly

[lethal lagoon]

MyTide(tm) and put all that warhammer copyright money they save into releasing a game with actual end game content

[plucky flax]

Dt2 re release every premium cosmetics and make people buy them again. No transfer

[south zephyr]

shoutout to this psyker for being one chill af Sparky Sah

[plucky flax]

People not freeing trapped teammate.

(Totally not me getting trapped and watch my teammate whack the horde rather than take 1s to free me then I go down.)

[radiant frigate]

should have dodged

😭

[plucky flax]

I did dodge but I dodged into a corner.

[cosmic sigil]

Corner should have dodged you

[glass hare]

every time i get trapped i say its bs but i know its my fault i just cant accept it 😭

[cosmic sigil]

Aostide?

[radiant frigate]

i hate when that happens

or when you go to push a burster and enough mobs snuck up behind you that you can't backdodge and you just fucking die

[plucky flax]

It's rigged.

[spice veldt]

so true

[vestal fulcrum]

I don't know enough about AoS to really complain nor have an idea for what it is

but I have a feeling they would rather grasp something more... rustic

i.e., more The End Times or WFB

[mental grail]

Need

[plucky flax]

I think this guy has the highest tru lvls worldwide.

[radiant frigate]

that is a lot of levels

[upper sun]

true level is not good for the mental health of anyone

[radiant frigate]

true level is good to let me vaguely know how experienced my teammates are

[upper sun]

but whats gonna happen with the person with 3k level on zealot goes down twice before the first event ends?

[vestal fulcrum]

woo

[radiant frigate]

shame

[radiant frigate]

very epic

personally i am missing a few

[vestal fulcrum]

coincidentally

[upper sun]

I kneel....

[vestal fulcrum]

this was my 100th mission since the update, or at least 100th auric mission

and also I just finished the "season pass"

[radiant frigate]

the "go fast low health" zealot penance, kraks, immolation

and a few on ogryn

[vestal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[radiant frigate]

on ogryn i think it is just keystones and the frag bomb

[upper sun]

i cant with this shit

its one thing on psyker

[radiant frigate]

just play stealth knife

and bring a flamer

[upper sun]

yeah

[radiant frigate]

stun -> flame -> win

[upper sun]

it takes me 10 seconds to go from grenades to flamer

[vestal fulcrum]

just bring a heavy sword

[upper sun]

i tried it like 4 times in relay station too

[vestal fulcrum]

if only it were that simple

[upper sun]

tried it

[marble crater]

Throwing knife cancels deploy speed

[upper sun]

😭

but i have to use nades

[vestal fulcrum]

How did it go?

[upper sun]

not any nades my nades

[vestal fulcrum]

Ironically, shocking stuff was easier to do back in the day

[marble crater]

I thought teammate nades also count?

[upper sun]

first time tried it there the wave hand to god did not spawn

[vestal fulcrum]

less experienced people were playing, ergo more mistakes, ergo denser hordes

[spice veldt]

and stumm nades being the only nades

[upper sun]

second time didnt happen

[vestal fulcrum]

I suppose

[spice veldt]

i wonder if i have it

[radiant frigate]

oh no not this again

[spice veldt]

yeah i have it, i'm pretty sure I got it frrom a teammate's nades

cuz i never played zealot much before patch 13 (and have never used stumm nades after the patch) and never went for penances

[radiant frigate]

i mean

i got a penance related to shooting marked targets from a teammate's exec stance

so, possible

[spice veldt]

lmao

[upper sun]

🤔

so do auras count as well?

[radiant frigate]

you never know

[upper sun]

eh too late for that i already got most of the really passive ones

but it would be cool to see if 3 psykers can do all 3 auras for eachother

[radiant frigate]

kinetic presence just takes a while

crit aura is done in literally one game

and seer's presence is the default anyway

[upper sun]

what were these play testers doing

some penances take so long and some can take like 4 minutes

[radiant frigate]

Real

ogryn keystones looking at you

"taunt 1000 elites/specials with ult" is also xd

[vestal fulcrum]

Hound/any “group of specials” maelstrom modifier makes it very easy to get

[upper sun]

HANK EXPLAIN YOURSELF

[vestal fulcrum]

Keystone penances on Ogg are garbage though

FNP is the only “easy” one

[upper sun]

25 nades 25 enemies 25 times is 100% hanks fault

[vestal fulcrum]

HH and BLO are just grindy

[marble crater]

If you play taunt ogryn anyway then it doesn't matter. Only penances I mind are the ones that don't fit my normal playstyle.
I will get the others just by playing

[radiant frigate]

also shoutout to point-blank barrage for making me go down the burn stacks boss damage rabbit hole

i replaced my zealot bolter with an infernus headhunter kantrael IV

it kills bonbon from the front so it is good in my book

[tired estuary]

yeah I've been putting off the zealot loner penance just b/c it feels so ass to do

[radiant frigate]

idk why one would normally play taunt ogryn though

[queen fog]

I normally play taunt ogryn

[tired estuary]

its an instant aoe stun that makes them take 20% more dmg

and unlike charge it doesn't cut you off of nodes like extra ammo

[queen fog]

I get to say fuck u to shooters without using any bullet

[marble crater]

Saved that for last as well, at least you can do that with throwing knives, elite kills from stealth and momentum, all at the same time

[radiant frigate]

idk I'd rather barrel through with the charge and apply bleed

[queen fog]

I apply bleed with heavy

[radiant frigate]

well yes but more bleed more gooder

[queen fog]

if I want bleed more I heavy more

Charge good but I like taunt damage increase

[marble crater]

Taunt also nice to save people from muties, dogs, stagger trappers

[tired estuary]

idk its also just kind of insulting to me that the most annoying aura penance is also tied to the worst aura lol

[vestal fulcrum]

It can be a performance amplifier type of play style

Via Valuable Distraction upgrade

[queen fog]

I feel ya I’m only 13 kills tallied for that one, rockin a speedy melee so if need be I can zoom back to my squad

[vestal fulcrum]

And you’re still an Ogryn, so you can do Ogryn things

[cinder moon]

gotta love scaring your teammates by aggroing a DH but then you melt it before it can really start swinging

[radiant frigate]

i am also once again part of the "bolter is trash" faction

[tired estuary]

indirect nerf from bulwark buff def feels kinda bad lol

[weary crane]

was the block too late or what??

[cinder moon]

2 slow