psyker-class

[plucky flax]

Scab bruiser hits super hard.

Bro is like a mini mauler.

2 hits and you ded.

[supple dock]

they're a fucking menace

[plucky flax]

Dreg bruiser doesn't hit as hard I find.

[shy willow]

lingering influence or perfectionism?

[crimson patio]

Hiya, what is the best staff for consistent boss damage? I'm playing with a vet without boss damage and most of our wipes are because of bosses

[upper sun]

longer time for dd is easier

[upper sun]

brain burst

alternatively void

[crimson patio]

I would definitely not put void up there as a bosskiller weapon when dakka ogryn and knife zealot exist :D

but I guess I''ll swap to bb

ty

[ornate hamlet]

surge staff kills monsters and bosses pretty well

purg and brainburst kills bosses

and half you melees specialise in it

[ionic sorrel]

Scriers and Columnus kills bosses.

[ornate hamlet]

columnus best staff aperently

[ionic sorrel]

Lol, missed that part. Opps

[ornate hamlet]

to be fair gunker does melt bosses

[ionic sorrel]

(but yes, Columnus is best staff)

[crimson patio]

I cast lead

[ornate hamlet]

turn into gelt

[ionic sorrel]

Who needs spells when you got shells?

I feel trauma doesn't do that bad with bosses.

[ornate hamlet]

its slow but usable

you could kill the bosses in this game with a butter knife so any staff will do

[plucky flax]

Surge does way more compared to trauma.

[ornate hamlet]

yeah surge is single target dmg the staff

why i like it, it doesnt invalidate melee or your blitz

[fading galleon]

finished my surge staff

[upper sun]

fuck you

[marble crater]

I wouldn't say finally, because I didn't try to get it, I don't play voidstrike

[upper sun]

play void play it now

also ragers arent supposed to be able to attack you when you're picked up by a mutie right?

[marble crater]

Someone explain how I blew up instantly please

[ornate hamlet]

dog

you where blowing up then pounced

which detonates you

[upper sun]

🤔

[marble crater]

I wanted to shriek right that moment too

It's not fair

[ornate hamlet]

why do dont play around going super critical lmao

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

You played trauma.

[marble crater]

In my defense, this is the first time this happened to me

[plucky flax]

Stop playing the bad staff. Wait for buff.

[fading galleon]

the what

[marble crater]

Second half of the mission I had to play with these shader lags

[marble crater]

You right, I will stop

[patent wing]

gunker with illisi sux even with dd

[supple dock]

trauma is the worst at boss damage, and it's still usable

the other 3 make fuck on bosses

[upper sun]

thats actually a feature

they added bullet time

[patent wing]

staves are generally not that good vs bosses but the "best" is purgatus

if you can stack 1-2 charged rmb and add a shriek its kinda good dps and since you play purgatus with brain burst you can continue with those and that hurts

[upper galleon]

Purge is the best cause you swap after getting 16 stacks

To BR

So you get the dot and the BR damage

[plucky flax]

Trauma is also worst at horde pls buff

[patent wing]

best would be columnus with scriers tho

[crimson patio]

will prolly swap over to that then, I don't vibe with dueling sword 4 >.>

[plucky flax]

[patent wing]

mk6 knife with uncanny and flesh tearer -> spam push attacks -> ggwp (Against bosss)

[patent wing]

man cant you see how much room u need to kite :D

just throw a krak

or charge a headshot with pgun

[bold cape]

how's assail psyker now? kinda new (lv25 zealot) about to start playing this character so i looked up some builds, and the person i was watching quoted "dont need to craft for this to be good" so it piqued my interest
but when i looked up details supposedly assail was op as hell and got nerfed a while back?
the lightning looks cool as hell but the phrase "dont need good weapons" caught my attention cause id rather stay away from it until a rework

[prime elk]

OP, got nerfed, still very good

[mental grail]

Most of my downs are to random shit like snipers and getting blown off the map my explosions

[patent wing]

personally i can play assail only with empowered psionics and voidstrike

[thorn cedar]

assail is pretty nutso yea

[prime elk]

You didn’t even need EP for it to slap llama balls

[upper sun]

ur clearly cheating

[mental grail]

Assail is still ez mode

[bold cape]

looking for something good and fun but not op
i avoided crit on zealot cause that seems insane

[upper sun]

surge is your staff then

[bold cape]

assail just seemed interesting cause a 3rd weapon that has no influence from crafting sounded pretty sweet

[upper sun]

🤔 if you want something assail related then this is prolly good https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bf08f57-d288-4254-98a7-ad4fd9eac508

[plucky flax]

Totally not op

[rigid sky]

I like Assail.

[upper sun]

surge is fine

[rigid sky]

I use it with either guns or voidstrike

Disrupt Destiny in both cases.

[plucky flax]

Yep. Give it more damage and more chains

[upper sun]

🤔

idk about this one boss

[plucky flax]

When surge was bugged with ep. Some people said that's how the damage should be since surge is so weak.

Xxd

[supple dock]

bruh

surge is so strong already

[thorn cedar]

those people were very wrong

[upper sun]

idk i just want the secondary damage to scale correctly with crits

[plucky flax]

Derpy notorious surge hater. May he rest in peace

[bold cape]

thanks :)

[supple dock]

BRO

Surge cancelling in twins hard mode

IS SO BRUTAL

ITS SO STRESSFUL

[upper sun]

i stole it from @rigid sky 💀

[rigid sky]

:D

[bold cape]

we wont tell them dont wor-

[plucky flax]

Hrm I would not play surge personally at twins.

Is too scary

[supple dock]

Yeah it's rough

So much happening and massive peril to look over

[strong gulch]

I don't recommend it. The we played the twins, surge felt bad. I also didn't know wtf I was doing.

[supple dock]

I mean surge is fine

It's just really demanding

[warm flint]

surge best

zap zap

[plucky flax]

Not enough aoe for the chaos in that smol room. I like blaze trauma or laspistol there best.

[supple dock]

I have smite anyways

[mental grail]

It should.

Surge is so weak.

[warm flint]

heresy

[plucky flax]

Yes please. And buff blaze trauma.

[mental grail]

Writing this in my psyker manifesto.

[lethal lagoon]

To be clear that was the majority opinion of the community

Steam dicussions and reddit were peak during the EP surge bug

[upper sun]

i could only do twins with vet 😭

[mental grail]

Fr

[upper sun]

totally balanced class psword and pgun totally fair

[mental grail]

I distinctly remember being called out in pregame for using surge during the bug

[rigid sky]

BTW the point in empathic evasion is very debatable

I take it personally and I am not totally sure on it

[upper sun]

DD is chill you can afford the point

[rigid sky]

You do crit a lot

[upper sun]

unlike ws

[rigid sky]

I have Bloodthirsty on my Illisi so I crit a lot on that too

[upper sun]

🤔

what does bloodthirsty even do?

[supple dock]

I've done twins hard mode with this build

[rigid sky]

So subjectively I feel like I crit enough

[supple dock]

My main goal is to take on the elites and blow up bombs

[rigid sky]

Crit after special attack kill

[supple dock]

and tank melee chick

[upper sun]

does the crit go away after you switch?

or is it like true aim?

[hardy stump]

how about DD with voidstrike?+

[upper sun]

also very good

[mental grail]

^^^^

[ornate hamlet]

you really need your voidstrike to be stronger? boooooo

[mental grail]

That's what I'm currently running

[mental grail]

Yes.

[hardy stump]

I have the blessing with 2 attacks on crit but its really hard to notice it feels like, is it really 2 shots?

[mental grail]

yes

[upper sun]

you can either use this 🤔 if you want something assail related then this is prolly good https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bf08f57-d288-4254-98a7-ad4fd9eac508

[hardy stump]

that would be super good then, 100% crit damage basically

[upper sun]

OR the cheap version (mine)

[mental grail]

They die instantly from a single charged attack. It's hard to notice in a crowd but it helps

[upper sun]

you have 4 free points

[rigid sky]

I think it's just the next melee

It's not bad tbh, it's like a mini power cycler

But it's not a top choice

[upper sun]

yerr id rather have executor/slaught/deflector/uncanny

any combination of the above is fine by me

[rigid sky]

The main difference is on Crushers

With a DD build you can oneshot them

Which just feels delightful

[hardy stump]

but theres also AOE falloff right

[rigid sky]

You one shot them one at a time because they have high hit mass and the blast damage isn't the best

[hardy stump]

so at outter AOE range you should be doing twice then

[upper sun]

🤔 does the crit damage perk stack with surge on void?

[rigid sky]

Wait are we talking voidstrike or trauma lmao

I thought we were talking void, I might be confused

[upper sun]

void? you cant really oneshot them with trauma

wait unless DD trauma??!?!?!

[rigid sky]

No lmao

[upper sun]

cmon

[rigid sky]

I just realised he was talking about using Surge blessing and I remembered it exists on Trauma too (but it really bad), just making sure there's no confusion

[hardy stump]

surge yes

[upper sun]

but no surge on surge

for the sole reason that it would sound stupid

[hardy stump]

wtf Im just noticing, how insane is MK IV dueling sword, you can oneshot any special or two shot both ragers, even crusher 4 shot or so

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[hardy stump]

that must be one of the best melee weapons in the game

[upper sun]

imagine that shit in the hands of a zealot

[hardy stump]

compared to the zealot or ogryn or vet weapons I know

[ornate hamlet]

Gah every purg staff ive been getting is 70+ on dmg 🤬🤬

[upper sun]

as long as cloud is high and burn is above 75 you should be fine

i have like 1k hours and ive only seen about 6? purges that meet the criteria

[ornate hamlet]

I just wish i could get one with better quell

[upper sun]

should still be good

though crit chance might be better than carap

[cinder moon]

purg quells kinda fast anyway tho

[supple dock]

not only that

[mental grail]

I need a dualing sword skin thats basically a rapier or estoc

[supple dock]

purg just doesn't produce a lot of peril to begin with

[mental grail]

for maximum nobility

[hardy stump]

fuck me, 378 then this

[mental grail]

fucking hell

[supple dock]

I mean you still have 1 more chance

[cinder moon]

you already have a bad blessing, just pray you don't get run n gun lmao

[hardy stump]

what do you want on surge btw?

[supple dock]

nexus/flurry

[ornate hamlet]

charge and crit blessings

[mental grail]

good picks

[supple dock]

And perks Crit/Flak is my go-to

[mental grail]

not cara?

[hardy stump]

top kek dude

[mental grail]

or do you run bb

[supple dock]

Carapace isn't really a threat since you can stunlock it

[ornate hamlet]

you do u hipster but all of your swords melt carapace

[supple dock]

You want flak for gunners

and shotgunners

[mental grail]

ik, I just usually run some variant of flak/maniac & flak/cara on most weapons

[rigid sky]

Consider how good it is with scrier's Gaze and DD

And uncanny strike

I love getting the Crusher blobs

Not sure how many stabs it takes to kill them, I think it's usually a 2shot

[hardy stump]

am I right that quell speed is better than warp resistance? quell seems to give around double the % for the same stat, so 10% less peril on resistance vs 20% faster quell
Actually its even worse as you also get quell decay

[flat nexus]

do you guys have any builds the is really good with melee on pysker

👀

[rigid sky]

Gunker

[mental grail]

^

[ornate hamlet]

no go play zealot, jk. run anticipation and dd if you want to make your melee good and skriers if your still think it isnt good enough

[flat nexus]

was playing zealot then i got dared to kill a beast of nurgle with a knife on pysker since i did it with a zealot xd

[mental grail]

You can do it lol

Dueling sword is very good for it

[ornate hamlet]

a butter knife can do it dont worry you got this

[rigid sky]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bf131e2-acbd-4dab-9bb1-a5b4a03f26d7

[flat nexus]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxWOXw7CWlUYpGxJ-qbgAtozTViC_u3uR8?si=A1U7SI4eSVhTfBUr clip in question

[rigid sky]

Run probably CIAG or Accatran Laspistol

[mental grail]

I like to imagine nurgle looking at one of his chosen beasts being killed with a knife used to open rusty ration cans and sighing heavily.

[rigid sky]

But definitely DS4

[ornate hamlet]

gimme a box cutter and im still taking a beast down

[mental grail]

Raking fire on both can be very helpful.

[hardy stump]

btw what does charging the smite do?

[cinder moon]

charged smite superior to lmb

extra stun, does more damage, spreads faster iirc

[marble crater]

Smite a bigger area

[rigid sky]

Dum dum essential.

Raking Fire a good option for second slot

My pistol is infernus

Pistol feels like worse dps than CIAG but much better at countershooting

[supple dock]

Twins defeated!

[ornate hamlet]

do it again

[supple dock]

My main goal was to kill elites and blow up bombs

And protect with smite during tox gas event

Psyker, zealot, psyker, vet

was comp

[ornate hamlet]

for everyone who doesnt recognise the icons

i dont want to be to negative but hoga was huffing glue

[supple dock]

Well, he hasn't killed them before I don't think

So it's fine

[ornate hamlet]

yeah

still huffing glue

[supple dock]

I'm surprised I did as much damage as the vet to the twins

Because I wasn't even fully going for them lmao

Surge cancelling is so strong

[ornate hamlet]

looks like the vet had to deal with the melee elites

[supple dock]

Yee, he did a lot vs elites too cause they just went for him

[ornate hamlet]

and runt had main character syndrome so respect

[supple dock]

Runt is amazing

One of the best players I've ever seen tbh

[cinder moon]

was this a hard mode run?

[supple dock]

ye

[cinder moon]

nice

[supple dock]

third kill on them

mine anyways

[cinder moon]

i can never find pubs doing it

[rigid sky]

I need to get a discord group to do HM with

I worry that I suck too much though

[cinder moon]

we can suck together, sibling

wait

[supple dock]

If we find ourselves with a spot open (we usually do) I'll let you know

[rigid sky]

I play all styles of all classes

[supple dock]

I know I ask a lot of pretty basica questions but I'm a deceptively strong player 😄

[rigid sky]

Asking questions is the best way to get gud

[supple dock]

mmhm!

[ornate hamlet]

i try to make everclass good at melee while not being useless when a sniper shows up

[supple dock]

Team comp doesn't matter on twins. MAYBE a vet is important

Vet or Zealot with corruptionj cleanse

[vernal temple]

just completed my first auric maelstorm as a spark'ead. I'm generally surprised I haven't died once and went down only twice, seeing how incredibly squishy I am. Palms are sweaty

[ornate hamlet]

the dodge button gets extra worked as psyker

[supple dock]

Just wait until you get bullied by 2 bruisers you didn't see

not even proper elites

[upper sun]

vet with the tag goes hard

[supple dock]

yee, but not necessary

[marble crater]

4 more to go

[vernal temple]

thing is, this was one of those "range enemies only" and I was a smite EP + bubble

[supple dock]

a lot of people *insist on having an ogryn during that fight

[ornate hamlet]

ew smite bubble

[supple dock]

smite bubble is painge

[upper sun]

ogryn is great for clearing the way to the clean area

[vernal temple]

y tho

[mental grail]

truest statement ever uttered

[upper sun]

id say best comp is ogryn 2 zealot and one vet

[vernal temple]

I already lost one 3/5 before

[supple dock]

venting shriek, frag grenades, bullcharge and stun grenades

All good

[mental grail]

I ask questions and I'm still dogshit, but the sentiment stands

[upper sun]

stun grenades just stun

[supple dock]

Ye, but you can push forward with it anyways

[ornate hamlet]

get good '

[upper sun]

besides that psyker has less boss damage generally than vets or zealots

[supple dock]

Is true

[cinder moon]

stun grenades would be good if zealot had any way of getting more of them during the fight

having only 3 sucks

[flat nexus]

my zealot dps goes down when i get paired with a perma smite pysker xd

[supple dock]

Tox gas event happens like 3 times during the fight

Which is fine for zealot

[upper sun]

sure its doable with psyker but with other classes it would be easier

[mental grail]

I'm guessing monstrosities are more for other classes to deal with, not that we can't kill them ourselves

[cinder moon]

requires perfect usage and keeping them for the tox gas specifically, which i guess is fine if you have other class doing CC

[ornate hamlet]

they disqust me

[supple dock]

Psyker is in a weird spot. Normally you're resigned to dealing with trash and elites but if there's a chance to hit the boss you deal respectable and consistent damage

[mental grail]

It is akin to teaching a dog to fly, impossible for me

[vernal temple]

why the hate for smite psykers tho?

[supple dock]

Because they forget they have 2 other tools to use

[mental grail]

Annoying

[rigid sky]

Gunker :D

[ornate hamlet]

a single pox walker

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[supple dock]

trueeee

[rigid sky]

EP brain rupture also good

[supple dock]

EP BR with KR is a monster

[mental grail]

Like bro stop spamming lmb and interact with your other tools

ffs

[vernal temple]

well I was mostly using my surge staff anyways, spamming smite only when we get surrounded so that the zealot and big boy could clear shit up. was i doing it right?

[bold cape]

lightning is cool

[supple dock]

Basically the only real time you should be using surge in that fight is the tox gas events

[ornate hamlet]

if your using smite correctly good for you

[supple dock]

It stuns the sneaky shotgunners from the back door

[ornate hamlet]

most people i see arnt

[supple dock]

And they will ruin your run\

[mental grail]

Yup! I melt HP but the kill always gets stolen while I'm reloading. No matter though, as long as it's dead.

[supple dock]

So in short, yeah you did fine

And remember that you can use blitz for just a moment so you can build space for you or your allies

[vernal temple]

[mighty olive]

I got so irritated at a trauma staff user yesterday, and I see why other classes get annoyed with it now

[marble crater]

No headshots for you

[mental grail]

I wonder how often I piss someone off and they just don't type it into chat

[mighty olive]

Just throws shit around and bullets are wasted trying to keep up with a bouncing elite lol

[mental grail]

I bet it's a lot

[ornate hamlet]

i also get that pain in the presence of void and plasma users

purge em all

[mighty olive]

I was playing vet and I'd charge my plasma gun and the fracking mobs would be bouncing around rofl

[supple dock]

literally just aim better

[mighty olive]

I didn't say anything but I get why others hate it, plus he did zero damage

[marble crater]

Zero damage because Trauma is bad (please buff)

[supple dock]

I will flay you

[mental grail]

Trauma is good. Buff it anyway.

[ornate hamlet]

trauma is good remove plasma

[mighty olive]

Trauma on lower difficulty bad, let me just kill it, stop playing with my food!

[upper sun]

nerf all psyker staves all ogryn weapons and peegun/peesword

[supple dock]

A strong trauma staff with the right build and blessings is a fucking monster

[upper sun]

make the game only zealots

[ornate hamlet]

hmmmm tempting

[marble crater]

We don't need ears anyway

[mighty olive]

He looked like he had a decent trauma, think he had shield and smite

[supple dock]

just imagine 4 zealots with the relic

[rigid sky]

I hate shield smite combo lmao

Smite needs shriek

[upper sun]

they all use it at once so its useless

[lethal lagoon]

[rigid sky]

Shield is better with brain rupture

[supple dock]

I'm just not a big fan of shield period

[ornate hamlet]

shield is better not used

[supple dock]

It's so niche

[rigid sky]

Yeah a lot of people hate it

[mighty olive]

Not sure a good trauma build, I tried it a while back and hated it xD but I loved Sienna's version of it on VM2 so I dunno why I hate ours

[upper sun]

shield is nice with purge since lol no range

[rigid sky]

I use it on trauma

[ornate hamlet]

go skriers

you wont

[rigid sky]

Because my trauma psyker is very generalist

[upper sun]

i wont

[rigid sky]

I try to have answers for everything

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

knew it

[rigid sky]

My others are more specialised

[supple dock]

I honestly thing that Surge/Smite/Shriek is the most generalist you can get

[rigid sky]

Different balance

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[supple dock]

Cornered? Smite. Elites? Surge. Sniper? LMB

[rigid sky]

But also very good

[supple dock]

Horde? Shriek

And that's not including melee wep

[rigid sky]

I am more capable of clutching on my trauma though

[lethal lagoon]

Shriek off cooldown and there's no enemies? Still shriek

[supple dock]

^

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

Surge smite melee weapon is smite

[mighty olive]

So on higher difficulty I can see it being good, but I was on heresy so I dun think enough mobs for the guy maybe

[upper sun]

one bomber 5 rooms away? shriek

[rigid sky]

Shield helps me to hold any space I damn well want and rip through ranged elites with ruptures

[supple dock]

You can get the same effect with more agression with shriek

[rigid sky]

But yeah I'm also just using it as an excuse to diversify my builds

My other builds run Shriek already

I want one with shields

[lethal lagoon]

Why shriek when you can instead use shriek?

[supple dock]

fair

[lethal lagoon]

[rigid sky]

Sue me lmao

[supple dock]

Look man if you wanna use shield it's still useful

I just personally don't like it because it doesn't allow me to be stupidly aggro

[rigid sky]

I Gaze on gunker, bubble on Trauma, Shriek on everything else

[mighty olive]

My friend is trying psyker and he's using the smaller shield pretty well, he'll throw one up to stop a muty from grabbing peoples but he does notice the damage drop off without shriek xD

[marble crater]

Purgatus and shield, play tower defense

[rigid sky]

It lets me aggro more tbh, but with the rest of my kit

[lethal lagoon]

If your friend is playing with you, 2 shriekers feels kind of bad anyways

[rigid sky]

I like purgatus with Shriek more since I run it with warp siphon

My trauma is EP rupture

[supple dock]

Still has utility past damage though

But yeah it does feel kinda bad

[rigid sky]

So bubble lets me make a sniper bunker

[mighty olive]

Truuue

[lethal lagoon]

I purely care that it's not fun.

Anything else is just detail

[supple dock]

lmao casual

nah im kidding

[lethal lagoon]

I did an Auric Mael duo as a lvl 6, I think it's the game that's casul

[mighty olive]

I think it'd be neat if our shield added a small stack of soulblaze to shit if it passes through or something

[lethal lagoon]

And I definitely wasn't carried

I'd love a new difficulty though. Like sometimes you get a reallly jucied mael

What if that was just the base level

Like total damage to beat a round has to be 2 mil minimum difficulty type

[supple dock]

I would love that

[lethal lagoon]

Nah 2 mil too little

[upper sun]

i just want low intensity damnation to always be up so i can grind plasteel easily

[lethal lagoon]

3 mil

[supple dock]

What about a modifier that reduced your damage?

[upper sun]

that shit is easier than malice

[lethal lagoon]

That's just a different way of doing t6

that's boring

I want action not deaction

[mighty olive]

I'd be down for that, I feel like it's always dog maps that are up lol

[upper sun]

bullet sponginess is not super fun

[supple dock]

Yeah true. Hmm.

[strong gulch]

Booooo. I let a shot gunner get me through stack of barrels. Had I not done that, I think we would have made it.

[marble crater]

Super high intensity modifier

[supple dock]

Maybe higher damage from enemies?

[upper sun]

do one auric for dockets then 2 low intensity damnations for plasteel happy grinding

[mighty olive]

Ty ❤️

[marble crater]

Made what?

[strong gulch]

I to the end. 😭

[mighty olive]

I wouldn't mind a modifier for extra patrols or elites or something, I used to fear patrols on VM2, I feel ours are kinda weak xD

[marble crater]

Next time just don't get shot through barrels, smh

[strong gulch]

true

[upper sun]

my struggle is finally over

cant wait for that shit to brick

[lethal lagoon]

It's already bricked?

[marble crater]

79% radius, bad

[upper sun]

I BELIEVE

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

prepare to be screwed

hit by a brick so hard you will swear an ogryn threw it

[upper sun]

THE EMPEROR IS MY FORK I FEAR NO TOASTER

[mighty olive]

I fear toaster

[marble crater]

Show the brick

[lethal lagoon]

I have my emergency the robots are awakening anti-toaster kit ready at hand

[upper sun]

launching the game rn

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

damn really getting the nitro money's worth huh

[lethal lagoon]

I'm literally more emote than human at this point

I have dreams of peepo

[marble crater]

Least addicted discord user

[upper sun]

aaaanad crit hit damage

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

🧱

[upper sun]

not awful

[supple dock]

[upper sun]

i can work for this if they ever fix overpressure

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

WORKABLE

[supple dock]

I mean..

It'll burn

I guess

[ornate hamlet]

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

there is no blaze away 4 right?

[supple dock]

there is, you just have to find the secret code to unlock it

[upper sun]

🙄

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze away 4 is on some guns

I have it on my flamer

[upper sun]

this is fine

[supple dock]

https://tenor.com/bNBIH.gif

[strong gulch]

Oh right blaze away. Not blazing spirit lol

[upper sun]

see? it already burnt down the house

[lethal lagoon]

You should roll for blaze away 4

It exists

It surely does

[upper sun]

🤔

Then why does the website only show blaze away 3

[lethal lagoon]

Why is the top rated build a voidstrike without true aim

[upper sun]

damn

got me

[strong gulch]

WHAT 😩

[lethal lagoon]

Wait did they get rid of it or edit it?

I can't find it anymore

[marble crater]

Purgatus illisi is top rated now, don't you feel silly now

[lethal lagoon]

No, because that's just as bad

[upper sun]

i need to step up my game and upload more bullshit builds

[marble crater]

How can it be, it has double the horde clear of a normal build

[lethal lagoon]

That's....

That's.....

Amazing

[strong gulch]

This is the illisi and tree from the top rated illisi and purg build.

Must be good. No way it's memes.

[lethal lagoon]

It's double blazing, it's clearly pure synergy

[strong gulch]

cara

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

It is very much a meme build, I watched the video and to be fair I think he says as much

[lethal lagoon]

Unless the meme is making all the wrong choices on purpose, I don't think that covers it

Like I get double blazing being a meme

But carpace Purg?

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad6984c-9b83-4ac3-ae68-eb8595ce37d3/best-purgatus-psyker-build-for-patch-16

ROBOT...........

[thorn cedar]

Huuuuuumaaaaaaan

[upper sun]

purge with no flak should get you banned off that website

[marble crater]

Maybe this is from the time where you can switch weapons for the perks to still count for soulblaze? Maybe

[thorn cedar]

im trying real hard to be interactive with smite rn

[spice veldt]

it was only blessings that worked like that to my knowledge

[thorn cedar]

to get through this penance in a fun way

[spice veldt]

the youtube video is also for patch #16 which is far far after that period of time

[marble crater]

Hunting grounds

[upper sun]

dont bother

just goon maxx with smite until you get the pop up then leave the mission

[thorn cedar]

im learning a lot about smite

[spice veldt]

top 10 lies

[thorn cedar]

left click should get 10 extra meters

that instalock cast is actually pretty nice to mix in

it's like assail but for dance

[upper sun]

only instance of good smite usage

[spice veldt]

flashbacks of pre-patch 13 surge psykers sending bursters into me

[strong gulch]

surge the horde

[late sapphire]

Sometimes when a zealot pisses me off i do throw bursters at them...

[spice veldt]

highly sane behavior

[late sapphire]

I wish there was a penance for # of knife zealots thrown into instant death pits via barrel detonation

[thorn cedar]

i want shotgun 😫

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike is almost a shotgun

[thorn cedar]

doesnt have no respite

i just wanna throw a crowd off their feet

and fuck them up with a kantrael

[mental grail]

got shoot fast and pick n mix in the same game lol

[mental grail]

I still do this

[cinder moon]

imagine if flame shotty proc'd soulblaze talents

[supple dock]

quelling speed for purg...?

So uhm

Surge cancelling gets rid of flurry

idk which is more dps

[strong gulch]

Uh oh. Time to put terrible barrage on it.

More CC than pre surge rework.

[supple dock]

I might actually have to

[strong gulch]

It's gonna be soemthing.

[supple dock]

maybe run'n gun

idk

this sucks

Or I save my hands and just use it normally

[strong gulch]

Think run n gun only affects the LMB and doesn't give it more damage or something.

[supple dock]

Ugh

I think I'll just have to use it normally

lmao

Oh well. At least I know I can do it

[strong gulch]

Well, you have regular mode and ✨ AGGRO✨ .

[thorn cedar]

all i want is to abuse the fact that smite is very good for instantly adding up no respite stacks with a shotgun

[cinder moon]

name checks out

[thorn cedar]

hitting a fat group of shooters with the zappo and then the blammo in one swift act

ah, but a dream

[cinder moon]

why does a dream hurt

[ornate hamlet]

because you suck at dreaming

dream better

[marble crater]

Get out of my dream

[mighty olive]

So this one time I did a sleep walk outside to this wild rose bush on the side of my neighbors yard, I can smell them from my room and i think that's what drew me to them. In my dream I fell off a cliff into a bunch of wild rose bushes and impaled my foot on a stem

Turns out it was real, I actually did inpale my foot, so dreams can hurt!

I didn't actually fall into a bush but I stepped on a thick stem xD

[marble crater]

That doesn't sound dangerous at all

[mighty olive]

Woke up with it still in my foot, back in my bed, was crazy

Truuuuue

[ornate hamlet]

need to lock some doors

or does your sleepwalking self do well with latches

[mighty olive]

That's the only time I know of it happening lol it was like 20 years ago xD

[ornate hamlet]

oh

idk what to say then

[mighty olive]

Dreams can hurt! We aren't crazy after all, siblings

[marble crater]

Only time that you know of

[mighty olive]

Yeah >_< I live with 4 other people's and no one has seen me do weird stuff

[ornate hamlet]

yet

[mighty olive]

My brother still sleep walks, he'll have a full conversation and not remember it

[marble crater]

Not sure if that is better or worse than having conversations while awake, to be honest

[mighty olive]

Depends on what you're saying to who I imagine

[ornate hamlet]

content based, imagine having a sleep conversation with scammer on the phone

[mighty olive]

Rofl omg that'd be horrible

[marble crater]

As long as you are wasting their time, yay

[ornate hamlet]

you wouldnt know

[marble crater]

But they would know

[ornate hamlet]

either that or your social security number

they know something

[marble crater]

Jokes on them, I don't have one

[ornate hamlet]

oh yeah i need a more universal thing

credit card number

the thing of true nightmares

[marble crater]

[ornate hamlet]

and the worst part, you would never know... just see a call on your call logs

for 4am

[marble crater]

Can't lock the phone away either I guess, as you wouldn't know if you can get access while sleep walking and then locking it away again

[ornate hamlet]

sleep walkers got it rough

[marble crater]

Timed lock maybe, but what do you do in an actual emergency then where you need it

[ornate hamlet]

worlds out to get them and even they are out to get them

[ornate hamlet]

never have a credit card

thats the solution

[marble crater]

I bet the Seer doesn't have one

[ornate hamlet]

the loner certainly doesnt have one

the savant probably has been scammed countless time and just doesnt care

its a dream who cares

[cinder moon]

no, no, savant set up stings to catch card scammers because they used to be an enforcer

[ornate hamlet]

do i got the voices mixed up

[cinder moon]

loner is the dreamer

[ornate hamlet]

which one is thebeloved

[marble crater]

Seer is dreamer

[cinder moon]

urite

loner says things like "corpse emperor"

[ornate hamlet]

loner is the german

i use loner

absolutely hilarious

[marble crater]

Female loner hilariously cute

[cinder moon]

i think loner and savant are the most popular personalities

[ornate hamlet]

im like 9k docets short from confirming which voice is which one sec

[marble crater]

For psyker maybe, overall it has to be loose cannon

[ornate hamlet]

ok yeah i got sevant and seer mixed up

seer is getting scammed and doesnt care

savant is keeping everything in order

[supple dock]

Whelp

I'm gonna try terrifying barrage cauyse run n gun i hate

[ornate hamlet]

on what?

[strong gulch]

terrible barrage!!

[ornate hamlet]

im still lost on what staff are poor choices being made

[strong gulch]

Surge for blitz cancel that rendered flurry useless.

[ornate hamlet]

oh, so because you animation cancel you completely invalidated a game mechanic

cool

[strong gulch]

ye

[ornate hamlet]

run n gun

so much better than barrage

be mobile and surpress gun lines

[strong gulch]

Kusu tried that and didn't like it. Besides, that LMB only and doesn't get the damage boost.

[supple dock]

Yee, I'm not utilizing lmb enough to be satisfying for me

Not to mention I play super aggro so it may actually save me since I kill within 7m

[strong gulch]

LMB already suppresses gun shooters anyways.

Horde enemies will cowder and you can keep zapping those elites.

[mental grail]

I hope the room temperature knuckledragger at fatshark that made the power up penance gets his sack ripped off

worst psyker penance ever

[ornate hamlet]

O.o

[mental grail]

visceral rage

see elite
try to kill him with slow as fuck default brain burst
literally everone else sees the glowing "fucking shoot me" sign
they kill him in .003 microseconds before I can bb
repeat ad nauseum

[cinder moon]

tag whoever you're not trying to BB

[ornate hamlet]

wanna talk viceral rage over a penance

imma wait till its unprivated

[cinder moon]

unprivate malleus, FS

FFS FS

[ornate hamlet]

btw the other 2 penances that are not done just require malleus to be done

so it is just 1 penance

dont let the 57/60 fool you

[mental grail]

It's why I'm doing power up lol, like 2 other penances require me to do it

I avoid warp charge builds like the plague usually

I hate them

[supple dock]

WS is amazing you take that back

[ornate hamlet]

great for vent builds

[supple dock]

https://youtu.be/b1pjxFS6WAw

Someone has done the research for me

Watching now

old video though

[ornate hamlet]

O.o praise be RESEARCH

[supple dock]

but I think the mechanics are the same around it?

Mans is poverty gaming

This is not good research

[supple dock]

He's using the disabled AI to test it

lmao

[ornate hamlet]

i need dockets

and poor research

im sad

[strong gulch]

LOL yeah that's not it

[supple dock]

Siigh

I guess I'll just have to take it on a run later

Still mad that flurry isn't working

[strong gulch]

My LMB spam build with terrible barrage will pause a horde if they are dense enough and I can keep the kills going.

[ornate hamlet]

hmmm so a purple surge staff is about as optimal as a gold if you animation cancel

because those other blessings aint helping

[strong gulch]

big brain

[supple dock]

i mean terrifying barrage MIGHT help??

[ornate hamlet]

maybe

bluemoon

[supple dock]

It'll help more than a dead slot

[strong gulch]

it will at least do something on both primary and secondary.

[supple dock]

Yeah

The animation cancelling is SO MUCH FUN to do

[ornate hamlet]

need to give the surge staff another blessing to compensate

[supple dock]

Yeee

[ornate hamlet]

toughness on elite kill

my vote goes there

[supple dock]

geeeee

I want a blessing that gives surge like

+2 to bounces

[ornate hamlet]

no need to make another horde killing staff

we got plenty

3 flavors

[supple dock]

i mean the bounces don't deal too much damage

It's just for cc

[ornate hamlet]

eh unless the behavoir is that it prioritises elites and specials seems like worse smite

[supple dock]

maybe a blessing to increase range

Hmm

[ornate hamlet]

that would be nice

teach the snipers a lesson

[supple dock]

or, OR

A blessing that increases the primary target's damage and disables all bounces

[ornate hamlet]

eh to good

your basically taking this staff niech and buffing it

[supple dock]

Hmm

Toughness damage reduction while channeling?

[ornate hamlet]

you can dodge while charging. kinda pointless

[supple dock]

It'd help when you're facing off 5 gunners

[ornate hamlet]

you live for .2 seconds longer

congrats

[supple dock]

could be all you need!

[ornate hamlet]

spam lmb and supress them

or slide

[strong gulch]

dodge slide

[ornate hamlet]

or both

yeah

[supple dock]

Hmm

[strong gulch]

maybe make the charge have an additional jump

[supple dock]

An effect on a critical strike?

[strong gulch]

Killing an elite or special guarantees a crit sounds like it might be op

[ornate hamlet]

toughness on elite kill is still where my vote goes, basic and fits this weapons neich

[supple dock]

Psyker has so many tools for that already though

[ornate hamlet]

yeah and you dont have to take them

a point spent elsewhere

[mental grail]

THATS poverty???

Oof

[supple dock]

[hearty narwhal]

https://youtu.be/jEgJuJ7yuRk?si=VIkC3FAZMCyCSJoV

[supple dock]

Ignore my dockets and melk money I went on a bit of a spree

[supple dock]

I'm gonna downvote this video because you posted it here

[hearty narwhal]

Come on dude I worked really hard on it

[ornate hamlet]

im gonna watch it and report it to youtube for hate speach because it was posted here

[supple dock]

That sucks

[ornate hamlet]

my cronic gambling addiction stops me from reaching these heights

i get some build up of plasteel and its imediatly going twords a weapon

that i already have

[supple dock]

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-pointing-meme-double-identity-youre-fake-phony-gif-25729080

[ornate hamlet]

i try to get a better stat roll and just end up with one thats almost identical to the one ive been using the better ones get bricked

[supple dock]

yeeeeeep

[long wharf]

the crafting needs a rework, fortunately FartShack has that on their timeline

[ornate hamlet]

if their not gonna change the system entirely atleast make it so the rolls are tighter, you shouldnt be getting 300's when you lvl 30 plus

vt2 had that fiqured out

[long wharf]

yeaaaaah, the Darktide team didn't want to talk to the Vt team

[ornate hamlet]

unfortionatly

one team seemed to know what they were doing

well twords the second half of vt2 life they figured it out

the first half was pretty similar to darktide

[gaunt seal]

Ran 5 games with these 3 randoms and no downs for 5 games. All of us got auric storm survivor and the no down insignia. Best night of Darktide. Legends. Zero disconnects zero cheese all purge

[mighty olive]

hmm Brahmss has been talking more often in the Morningstar, anyone else notice? O_o

[ornate hamlet]

was in the patchnotes

[mighty olive]

oh...doh i dont remember seeing that >_<

[potent echo]

There's also new hestia voicelines for the hab dreyko missions

Also new "characters" in house nobles

[ornate hamlet]

that one tech priest dude is still the best side character you can get

[supple dock]

So I have come to a conclusion

Surge cancelling is only really worth while if you can rapid fire it at a crazy pace

like macros

sad

[ornate hamlet]

yay so blessing not completely invalidated

[potent echo]

Cancelling is still rough for me because sometimes I hit QQ and it just swaps once

Might be a keyboard thing or a game input thing

[supple dock]

nah this game eats inputs with sawpping

[potent echo]

There's no input buffer at all in this game

At least I don't think so

[tawny pebble]

Hm.

[potent echo]

Also shotguns have this very weird after shot lag where you can't sprint

[true lake]

ive never really played with crazy cancelling stuff because i never really based my build on my staves

[potent echo]

Unrelated but similar control problems

[tawny pebble]

It occurs that I don't know how Precognition (Scrier's Gaze node) works.

[potent echo]

The finesse damage one?

[tawny pebble]

Yeah.

Does this work for any weakspot hit to faux-trigger a second of Gaze any time?

Or does it simply intensify Gaze when you use weakspot hits?

[potent echo]

You get 1% finesse damage per stack

I think ... ? That includes weakspot and crits

[wind spruce]

You also get 1s of scriers gaze per weakspot KILL

[true lake]

i would have to read it, forgot what it said exactly

[wind spruce]

Which I assume to mean it adds a stack

[tawny pebble]

Gotcha, so it does trigger anytime, not just during Gaze itself.

[wind spruce]

But iirc this either doesn't display correctly or is actually bugged

[wind spruce]

No, it does only trigger during gaze

[tawny pebble]

Ah.

Well, my aim isn't spectacular... So maybe I just go Reality Anchor for more overall Gaze uptime on gunker.

[wind spruce]

Noooo

The finesse damage is godly

What weapons are you using

[tawny pebble]

The extremely forgiving, if hungry, VVIa Recon.

That said, Disrupt Destiny on my Void Gaze set has been giving me better weakspot targeting.

But this gunker has Warp Siphon for more Gaze uptime.

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure recons have a good crit multiplier

[potent echo]

No it's horrible

70 to 90 damage

[wind spruce]

My b

I never use them

[potent echo]

Roughly I was looking at it yesterday

[wind spruce]

Assumed it was like las pistol

Ok drop precognition then

[ornate hamlet]

see what you get

[wind spruce]

Das fine

[ornate hamlet]

you assumed

[wind spruce]

I made an ass out of you and I

Wait...

[potent echo]

Made an ass out of my sail

[ornate hamlet]

i make an ass out of my self plenty

dont need you to help

[tawny pebble]

Either that or I put on my real gundalf pants and use a high finesse weapon

this build just doesn't have another answer to crowds currently

[potent echo]

Semi auto lasguns, infantry autoguns

[wind spruce]

Las pistol goes hard af

[potent echo]

Yea scrier I use brumo axe

[ornate hamlet]

las pistol is the fun way to play gunker

[potent echo]

It handles hordes well

[ornate hamlet]

culumnus is the sad but good way

[tawny pebble]

sad how?

[strong gulch]

I want a force knife.

[wind spruce]

Caxes feel too slow for scriers

[potent echo]

You just get sick of using columnus on all characters

[ornate hamlet]

everyone runs columnus

[wind spruce]

And I feel like I'm not getting much benefit from all the extra damage

[tawny pebble]

well, i guess i can feel special

[potent echo]

It's just that good

[potent echo]

Yea that's the other thing about scriers

It's kinda funny that you want to run fast but weak weapons with it

[wind spruce]

Yup

[tawny pebble]

Other than dagger, what qualifies?

Illisi?

[potent echo]

Duelling sword swengsweng

[tawny pebble]

Oh, yeah, the gunker has ds4

[wind spruce]

Tac axes qualify

But are underpowered atm

[potent echo]

Illisi too I guess I never use it

[ornate hamlet]

deimos and ilisi qualify

[spice veldt]

chainswords 😎

[ornate hamlet]

obscuris doesnt exist

[potent echo]

Ah chainswords

They do benefit from extra damage

[wind spruce]

Isn't there something weird about the cleave damage on chainswords

Like good weird

[spice veldt]

gr8 cleave damage and no weak/crit dmg multiplier falloff

[potent echo]

Seems more like an oversight

But we'll take it

[wind spruce]

So should be insane with scriers and DD?

[supple dock]

FLURRY STILL WORKS LMAO

im dumb

[spice veldt]

seems intentional since the chain axes also have it

[potent echo]

Illisi has harsh falloff right?

[spice veldt]

haven't checked with eviscies

[potent echo]

I read something like that

[spice veldt]

illisi special should be the same as before but peril gen

[strong gulch]

[ornate hamlet]

[strong gulch]

Surge staff still needs a bigger blessing pool.

[tawny pebble]

That I can agree with. There's basically only one build everyone uses, and if nothing else that's boring.

[ornate hamlet]

reminds me of vt2 where everyone took swift slaying

[potent echo]

Swift slaying feels soo good though

Give me swift slaying in DT

[supple dock]

I still feel like the skill cap for surge staff is maybe too high to deal with everything at once

[ornate hamlet]

yeah but fundementally its just attack speed

[supple dock]

Hmmm..

Prolly use it for quick shit

Cause it's really easy to get too focused on it

[potent echo]

Yea you need to play darktide and not just face roll everything with a void or trauma lol

Can't just run into 6 crushers and 7 bulwarks and expect to come out on top

[ornate hamlet]

O.o why not, i can stab my way through them

[tawny pebble]

I'm struggling to get a good Surge build going, honestly

[potent echo]

New bulwarks

Then all 4 players hyper focus the front and 7 specials come from behind

[thorn cedar]

i might actually like smite

[strong gulch]

It's still cool to be able to do and whip out when you need it.

[potent echo]

Smite op

[tawny pebble]

nothing wrong with liking smite

freeze the entire room if shit gets too hectic

[ornate hamlet]

smite is op and terrible at the same time

the problem is the player

[thorn cedar]

i use left click way more than right

[tawny pebble]

yeah...

[thorn cedar]

and im discovering funnies with it

[tawny pebble]

do tell

[strong gulch]

Funnies are the best

[ornate hamlet]

🍿

[thorn cedar]

im just weaving it into attacks like its assail

just not at the same times you would assail

[ornate hamlet]

so when does this get funny

[thorn cedar]

just that its working

really well

[ornate hamlet]

[thorn cedar]

not the fastest way to farm the penance tho thats for fukken sure

so far ogryn bombs are saving me there lol

i hear that voiceline, i right click

[potent echo]

You can make heretics slip and fall like they are on ice

[ornate hamlet]

to bad all your melees benifit from headshots so throwing them around hurts that a little bit

psyker needs a melee weapon that isnt finesse based

even sienna had a mace

[supple dock]

Ugh. Gonna have to put surge cancelling on the shelf

Hands hurting way too much lmao

[potent echo]

You do it unintentionally sometimes anyway because you swap to blitz or melee

[supple dock]

Yeaah

Melee can do it at a slower rhythm

And that's what I normally do

Just wanted to learn the blitz cancel cause faster

Fuckin.. difficult tech

[shy willow]

what are the best perks for a voidstrike staff again?

[mental grail]

not helpful when vets turn into fuckin Arthur Morgan whenever I have to do a penace

[shy willow]

as a primary vet player, sorry not sorry

[mental grail]

this is why I stand infront of sharpshooter vets

[shy willow]

@mental grail what penance you trying to do again?

[half iron]

i started playing gunpsyker just to steal more ammo from them before it grew on me

[mental grail]

power up

I got all 3 penaces done

I snagged warp battery by accident earlier today lol

[thorn cedar]

and here it is

today's nonsense

[mental grail]

21 MILLION

Bruh wtf

[thorn cedar]

i probably should burn some of that

[mental grail]

Also

Kantrael perks

Hand them over

[thorn cedar]

flakiac

[mental grail]

talents

[thorn cedar]

nearly done the penance

tomorrow

[shy willow]

what are ideal perks and blessings for a voidstrike?

I got three halfrolled ones I could play with

my original

[wind spruce]

I burnt like 8 million trying to upgrade my blaze trauma the other day

Didn't go well

[shy willow]

my two new ones

[wind spruce]

Both of your staves are good. imo flak, carapace, nexus and surge is the ideal set up

Warp flurry is also great

Transfer Peril is shite

[wind spruce]

This is the better staff. Keep surge and flak and whack on nexus and you're good to go. Void isn't too affected by 12% off the charge time, it's less than a 0.04s difference iirc

[shy willow]

Transfer peril is bad eh? I didn't have many blessings for voidstrikes before this, thought it made it pretty sustainable. Ty for the advice

[supple dock]

In most cases you want to entirely manage your peril manually

Makes it easier to edge

[mental grail]

i permanently edge

I mean, when I'm running warpfire/vent ofc ofc

[plucky flax]

Bro left after getting dogged miles away from everyone XD
He rejoined then instant left after recognising it's the same game. XD

[wind spruce]

I've totally never done this

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Ragequit bc im ten miles away from being rescued, leave, rejoin, and still in chains