psyker-class

[flint pawn]

hmm

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?armor=resistant

[plucky flax]

Regenning toughness while getting shot.

[marble crater]

Maulers are flak with cara head

[upper sun]

click an enemy and youll see an armor breakdown

stuff like surge/purge/trauma targets the base armor on secondary use

he doesnt know about the forbidden BB tech

[marble crater]

Someone is having fun

[upper sun]

if you use a double wall you can have double the upgraded BB shots

[plucky flax]

No it's too hard.

[upper sun]

🤔

[plucky flax]

Bubble is just easier and teammates can huddle together inside. :3

Until it cracks and we're all dead.

[upper sun]

wow so much for the lone psyker

[strong gulch]

Does panel shield go through grated floors like trauma and bubble shield?

[plucky flax]

I think so.

[strong gulch]

💀

[marble crater]

Stairs when playing trauma

[strong gulch]

pain

[ornate hamlet]

stair when trying to slide

[marble crater]

I know we can target the middle part, to kind of make it work, but still

[ornate hamlet]

[flint pawn]

Huh. Unyielding really doesn't affect Crushers.. I just assumed it did for the longest time

[plucky flax]

Only fleshy ogryns.

[ornate hamlet]

the fleshgryns

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[ornate hamlet]

see a squad of em

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[strong gulch]

a classic

[ornate hamlet]

hes extra fleshy

[marble crater]

Is that skudie's big brother?

[velvet spear]

was the lightning staff sneak buffed?

[tawny pebble]

In what regard?

Most are saying that the HP buff to the enemy ogryn is a stealth nerf.

[tawny pebble]

the synchronization here has "Tough Guys Snapping" Shrek, energy

Except they can back it up of course

[ornate hamlet]

the only thing that possibly "buffed" the surge staff would be people getting tired of void, or learning they cant aim

beyond that nope still the same

that being staid surge and purg are my favorite staffs... so go use em

[supple dock]

this is actually hilarious

[plucky flax]

The strongest build

[lethal lagoon]

Nein, it was always strong. The lack of skill to use it just attracts a worse playerbase.

Gives an illusion it's much worse than it actually is.

That's my theory anyways

[supple dock]

ATLAS

I've been learning how to surge cancel 😄

[lethal lagoon]

[supple dock]

Even if Surge isn't skill based

I'll make it be

[long wharf]

I don't like having to cancel animations for a weapon to be good

but I'm also old, and lazy

[supple dock]

Surge is great even without animation cancelling

[long wharf]

I wouldn't call it "great", but it's "decent"

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

surge is soo good you just have to do 99 actions per second to make it great

[supple dock]

I actually play sc at 100 apm

[long wharf]

all I've wanted since release was to be able to apply soulblaze using surge staff

[supple dock]

shit or sc1

passable for sc2

[long wharf]

FartShack refuses to indulge me.

[upper sun]

two more weeks well get another great staff just keep hoarding those crafting mats

[long wharf]

I highly doubt that

[upper sun]

trust the road map

[long wharf]

... FartShack has never in the history of their existence hit a deadline they've set for themselves

[lethal lagoon]

Darktide was released on time though, they just pretended it wasn't early access

Believe and you can do anything

[upper sun]

just wait two more weeks youll see YOULL ALL SEE

[long wharf]

well, if you're going to suck down copium, then you can believe anything

and with FartShack, the line is always "Next Week(tm)"

[lethal lagoon]

Copium has a nice buzz.

[upper sun]

were still in beta i think around middle to late 2025 well finally be around v1.0001

[long wharf]

why the hell is it taking so long for Darktide to verify files?

[rigid sky]

This time it took a long while

[upper sun]

30gb of unreleased/uncompleted/not ready slop

[long wharf]

is it verifying every byte with a server somewhere?

[rigid sky]

Also please enjoy recaching the shaders for your first couple of games

Stuttering gooooo

[long wharf]

FartShack's incompetence never ceases to amaze

[mental grail]

I remember when surge got buffed by EP

[long wharf]

that was the only time I'd ever called surge great

[mental grail]

I wish fatshark never nerfed it

[long wharf]

didn't matter that you could only hit up to 3 enemies (smite upgrade node for 1 extra jump also affected surge secondary)

[tawny pebble]

welp, looks like I can use Perfectionism after all

10s decay on DD stacks almost feels too long

[long wharf]

I'd say it's just right

[tawny pebble]

although the constant uptime is nice

[mental grail]

people would leave and talk shit when they caught you using it

[long wharf]

the stacks falling off one at a time is how it should have been all along

[mental grail]

v funny behavior

[tawny pebble]

oh, absolutely agreed

[long wharf]

nobody complained about using surge with EP

people complained about using smite with EP and having never ending smites

and essentially unlimited bubble shields

[upper sun]

better yet look at assail and zealot knives

zealot knives still get shit from weapon blessings

[long wharf]

honestly, my biggest gripe right now is the sheer number of mentally handicapped console players

I have yet to play with a console player that was actually good

[upper sun]

they're not so bad in EU

[long wharf]

they've all been somewhere on the spectrum range of "5 year old with a controller for the first time" to "Call of Duty idiot jumping everywhere shooting and missing everything"

[upper sun]

i dont see much of that anymore in higher threat levels

[supple dock]

I am an OG look at this skin

LOOK AT IT

[upper sun]

my issue is mostly french people on open mic

[long wharf]

is that the newer recolor of that jacket?

oh, I mute people immediately if they're on an open, hot mic

[supple dock]

idts? This is one of the first outfits that was being sold I think

Like maybe third rotation

[long wharf]

the back looks black

the first version of it had reddish back with the gold aquilas, I think

[upper sun]

yeah my favorite voip users are the people who say "sorry" once per mission then never say anything else

[long wharf]

either way, it's a cool jacket, but I don't like being bare-handed

gloves are a must

[supple dock]

gloves are cool

[long wharf]

they're also safety devices

[upper sun]

gloveless is nice if you have hand tats

[supple dock]

..

[long wharf]

nobody wants to fight the forces of Nurgle with exposed skin like that

[supple dock]

hand tats? brb getting some

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[long wharf]

there's no such thing as a good looking hand tat

nor finger tat

[upper sun]

i doubt they have to worry about the sun fucking them up in 2 weeks on atoma

[rigid sky]

How practical really is perfectionism DD btw?

[upper sun]

the 25 stack one?

[rigid sky]

Yeah

[upper sun]

idk it was kinda hard keeping up stacks

but I WOULDNT KNOW

[rigid sky]

I feel like lingering is super easy to maintain with any of my DD weapons

[upper sun]

since the buff is visually bugged

[rigid sky]

Yeah fuck that bug

DD is such a joy gameplaywise but not having that feedback feels real bad

[upper sun]

like yeah sure we got aura icons but who cares

i really wanna see the movespeed vet aura very nice

[rigid sky]

Subconsciously training people to use coherency

[round gull]

Which keystone is good for assail?

[marble crater]

Middle and right

[round gull]

as I thought

The free assail is very good

[ornate hamlet]

disrupt destiny so good, 50% crit dmg, 60% headshot dmg and you get free crits with true aim

the middle one is cool

but free damage

[rigid sky]

All of them can work with it tbh

But DD has the specific synergy with it

I like the other EP options better for that one

[marble crater]

Surge, DS2, Assail, Shriek and DD, yay or nay?

[ornate hamlet]

empowered psionics in my compleatly unqualified and stupid opinion is entirely to turn your smite from a light zap to toaster bath

other than that eh

[round gull]

I like that

[round gull]

The problem with smite is that i barely kill with it

[ornate hamlet]

its not really ment to kill

[round gull]

Well yeah

It's to help others to deal more damage and cc

[rigid sky]

It's honestly great with brain rupture too

Oneshots ragers

[round gull]

The problem with it is that empowered psionics works when you kill

[ornate hamlet]

i mean it works faster brain burst cant complain to much

trust me im trying to think of some that dont sound petty

[round gull]

Brain rupture is so good

It's so satisfying

[ornate hamlet]

with a purg staff ive grown a new apreciation for it

[round gull]

purge staff is good too

[ornate hamlet]

its decent

[round gull]

Purgatus is better,isn't it?

[ornate hamlet]

its good just not the best is all

kills hordes like no other though

and take a sword with uncanny and elites melt

[round gull]

For distances the best is the void one,right?

[round gull]

Uncanny?

[ornate hamlet]

pretty much, id say void is the best staff followed by trauma

rending talent for swords

uncanny strike

[vernal temple]

one left

[ornate hamlet]

time to bubble up

[round gull]

ohhh

Idk what sword should I keep

[upper sun]

😨 good luck

[round gull]

I like the flaming one

[upper sun]

nah dont bubble use the double wall

[round gull]

oh god,that penance is horrible

[upper sun]

people have said ranged maelstrom would be good but i couldnt find one up

[vernal temple]

I know, 150k is kinda overkill

[upper sun]

i did it by spamming malice and just plopping walls in front of gunners (any higher threat level and elites would be deleted before i could do anything)

[round gull]

FR,you have to do tons of missions

[round gull]

that's a good strategy

really good

[vernal temple]

and I don't really like the bubble build I have.. I prefer Venting Shriek, obviously

[round gull]

bubble is really good

[upper sun]

i tried sniper vent purge but again i kept getting good teams

[vernal temple]

I love these moments

[round gull]

[vernal temple]

this one is even better lmao

[round gull]

LOL

[vernal temple]

Hadron stole everything. Can't have shit on the Mourningstar.

[round gull]

the meat is weak

[vernal temple]

the flesh*

[round gull]

yeah

hahahahaha

the flesh is weak

now XD

as soon as I typed it I knew it was wrong XDDD

Btw which sword do you recommend?

[vernal temple]

I'm no expert, I use Illisis

[round gull]

Is that the flaming sword?

[vernal temple]

Illisis Mk V Blaze Force Sword

[round gull]

ohhhh

[vernal temple]

sometimes I swap it for a Mk IV duelling sword

[round gull]

duelling sword?

[vernal temple]

Maccabian Mk IV Duelling Sword

[round gull]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I got you

[vernal temple]

I like the heavy attacks on it, poke the eyes out of your enemies

[round gull]

hahahaha

I have to prove the duelling sword

It seems to be good

[supple dock]

May I direct you, siblings, to this

#darktide-pics-vids message

[vernal temple]

that trapper deserved every bit of it

[rigid sky]

Duelling Sword on gunker feels incredible

So agile, so deadly

[supple dock]

This finger trinket makes me uncomfortable

[honest robin]

i run it with a purgatus on what could be called a gunker build lol

[supple dock]

I am glad I spent the extra aquilas

[honest robin]

i dont take it into auric damnation but its real funny to play

i should get a real gun for that build

[rigid sky]

Recommend accatran laspistol or columnus infantry autogun :D

[honest robin]

yeah i hear the CIA is good

[rigid sky]

I use both, they kick all kinds of ass

[supple dock]

recommend dunking your head into a portapotty

[honest robin]

laspistol i feel like i have to click too much

[rigid sky]

CIAG more raw power, Laspistol more convenience and flexibility

[honest robin]

laspistol does have the cool force push though

[rigid sky]

Suppression immunity

And faster reloads

[honest robin]

i dont really care about convenience and flexibility for the gun because i really want to STAB

i am a khorne style player

[marble crater]

Bully

[mighty olive]

I have lucky fingers on mine too, with the new knife camo

[mighty olive]

I keep randomly doing knife tricks while on maps, dunno how but it happens lol I pressx the weapon show button which I thinkii ios default X on pc, and seems to be random

Does some neat flips!

[supple dock]

It happens to me too

You'll switch to your knife and swap it between hands and flip it and shit

[marble crater]

We need that for all melee weapons

[steel egret]

Ogryn dropping a grenade launcher.

"Ops"

[mental grail]

Like, I know psykers have witchsight, but I still always wear things that don't completely block my eyesight

[supple dock]

I'm the gimp but the psyker version

[mental grail]

same with gloves, I gotta have a layer of leather between me and the grimey ass auspex scanner hadron gives you

who knows how many rejects have held that thing

[ornate hamlet]

my character has one good eye and they like to use it so i usually am just running the cloth mask

[supple dock]

I will literally just banish germs from it

[ornate hamlet]

maybe a hood

[mental grail]

This mask?

[ornate hamlet]

yeah i forgot the name of it

[mental grail]

same tbf

one of the best head items low key

[ornate hamlet]

yeah

[mental grail]

my psyker in 10 years

[supple dock]

Most whole psyker

[ornate hamlet]

hes very healthy

[distant heart]

yall which staff/sword combo do you rock?

[supple dock]

knife mk 3 + surge

[mental grail]

Void Illisi

[spice veldt]

trauma mk4 duelling

[ornate hamlet]

sharp stick and fancy stick my self

[distant heart]

oooh

just got my first illisi

[mental grail]

very kino sword

great for horde deletion

just make sure you have slaughterer on there for optimum death deliverance

[distant heart]

i just got these 2

W

just hit level 15

[marble crater]

You need to write more before you can send pictures

[distant heart]

what perks/blessing do yall have on your illisi if you use one?

[mental grail]

disregard perks and talents until you hit 30

[distant heart]

fsfs

[mental grail]

just have fun mostly

[distant heart]

do i just keep the 2 things i have rn as a base common?

ive been just saving everything until i just bought the illisi void combo

[mental grail]

Its a reliable setup, I'd keep it a good while

[ornate hamlet]

if your leveling up and playing lower dificulties then try the surge with an illisi with assail

[distant heart]

im level 15 playing difficulty 3s rn

[tawny pebble]

lol, assail on lower difficulty just deletes the map

do not recommend

[mental grail]

you'll be moving up in level and experience, don't expect to be using the exact same weapon for super long

[ornate hamlet]

yeah people spam that true

forget assail go brain burst

[tawny pebble]

as long as you don't let it become a crutch, absolutely try it out

[distant heart]

i do use assail rn lol

[mental grail]

BB without EP 🤢🤢🤢

[ornate hamlet]

O.o

[tawny pebble]

yeah i can't do brain burst without enhanced psionics

fast pop only thanks much

[ornate hamlet]

here i am with dd and brain burst

yall spoiled

[tawny pebble]

probably

[mental grail]

Everything is so low health at his level they will get domed by a vet before they pop

[tawny pebble]

I guess I do have BB on my gunker for kinetic flayer

[mental grail]

slow ass default BB

[ornate hamlet]

hence assail

out race the vet

jk

[tawny pebble]

auto aim does help, but the darts can take longer than a boolet

[mental grail]

Better than creating a glowing "shoot me" sign every single player can see

[tawny pebble]

you can still do that with Assail if you feel like it!

[ornate hamlet]

ok so the solution is to just play vet

[jovial juniper]

[tawny pebble]

i'll stick with zealot

vet scares and confuses me

[mental grail]

you're getting it

[distant heart]

psyker on top

everyone else is gross

[tawny pebble]

i would play a different franchise if i wanted to just shoot stuff tbf

give me the power of faith and space wizardry

[mental grail]

I love psyker, but vet gets bolter and cooler cosmetics

[distant heart]

🗣️

[distant heart]

🗣️

[marble crater]

That guy is from "legend of the galactic heroes" isn't he?

[tawny pebble]

(also legitimately i am bad at vet in this game, my skill in other FPS is for some reason non-transferable)

[mental grail]

gundalf is the secret 5th class though

[tawny pebble]

i do like gunker, no question

nothing like using the power of the emotion dimension to become unstoppable for a short spell

[ornate hamlet]

all im saying is if gandalf had a piece then that battle with the belrog would of been much quicker

[tawny pebble]

I AM A SERVANT OF THE SECRET-FIRE, WIELDER OF THE SMITH AND WESSON

[jovial juniper]

5/10 not enough tubes

[tawny pebble]

Sefoni likely has some spares in the closet

[radiant frigate]

i hate tubes i hate tubes i hate tubes

[ornate hamlet]

want some tubes

[long wharf]

I'm pretty sure you'd need at least a 12-gauge shotgun to take on a Balrog

[supple dock]

@distant heart Good for medium threats too

[willow hazel]

it's heads massive, a columnus would destroy it

[tawny pebble]

rager-b-gone

[distant heart]

what the sword?

[supple dock]

yeah

[supple sedge]

@abstract arch yea, Ulgo liking new picture. Thought you want to kno!

[ornate hamlet]

i mean its a belrog, if we were being pedantic a shot gun isnt cutting it, we need a 12 gauge railgun

actually we just need an ogryn with a rock, that should hit hard enough

[frozen iris]

what would yall recommend i change on this

[supple dock]

Shred to slaughterer and carapace to maniacs

or riposte to slaughterer

Doesn't really matter which

[ornate hamlet]

on one hand reposte imo is better, on the other its reposte 3 vs shred 4

tough choices

[supple dock]

tbh shred blows ass imo

but it can work

[ornate hamlet]

you miss one slash

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

your crits

[supple dock]

mostly because mutants are a psyker's fucking bane

[ornate hamlet]

yeah that and every gunner within a 10 mile radius and the snipers too

they all hate you

you in particular

[supple dock]

I mean so does your strike team

[ornate hamlet]

i actually need to make a diemos with maniac actually, still running the same one i got at lvl 30 and thats 4% crit and 8% weak point

[supple dock]

When I started I started to feel personally attacked from all the shit talking

[ornate hamlet]

psykers get it rough, but hey you know what. Atleast i can do magic

[ornate hamlet]

and if they really piss me off i can always be a gateway for a demon

a final middle finger

[crude cape]

How’s the psyker melee meta rn. I’m guessing dueling, Deimos, illisi, knife still best?
How’s the Deimos vs illisi comparison is the illisi still worth using over the others

[lethal lagoon]

There's been no signifcant changes to psyker melee since patch 13.

Other than the infinite dodges on force swords, but force swords still good.

I don't even remember if infinite dodges was pre or post 13 though

[plucky flax]

Post 13.

[crude cape]

whats the best talent build for blazing spirirt + nexus trauma

this pretty good?

do i really want true aim?

[plucky flax]

No take perfect timing instead.

[crude cape]

ok cool

was also hoping to get kinetic resonance, makes BB a lot more viable and smoother taking out those ranged units

but not sure if anything is worth dropping for it

[plucky flax]

Here's what I use.

I use left click on staff to take out far away stuff.

[crude cape]

basically same but you swap to quietude

which makes sense, i often like taking both quietude and soul stealer together tbh lol

i chose soulstealer bc i figured lots of warp dmg = lots of toughness

how bad will this perform its kinda meh. need to keep rolling but i dont wanna nuke all my resources before the reowrk

[plucky flax]

Fairly low charge rate.

@lethal lagoon very based build.

With a nice basket up top.

[ornate hamlet]

fun time with a purg staff and diemos. only blown up twice in 3 games (and skriers wasnt even active im just dumb)

[plucky flax]

DD with purga?

[ornate hamlet]

the purge is mostly there for extra dmg while i use the sword

and true aim is wasted

not optimal

[plucky flax]

Very based I like it.

I play bubble and deflector together with kd for extra protection against shooters.

[ornate hamlet]

empathetic evasion and purg are surprisingly good together, it crits constantly

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah for sure.

Core talent for purga

I also like it with assail.

[ornate hamlet]

i do think deflector might be worth with this build

[plucky flax]

I use deflector uncanny on my deimos.

[ornate hamlet]

gunners are a challenge

and not a fun one when your out of dodges and stam

[lethal lagoon]

I have this image saved as PerfectPsyker2

[plucky flax]

Can even go smite bubble for the ultimate psyker.

[lethal lagoon]

Also why bubble and not double shield for double BB?

[plucky flax]

I am simply lazy.

Bubble works against bonbon too.

[lethal lagoon]

[mellow prairie]

Lowkey the Psyker keystones aren’t that good

Is it worth it to not run any of them and just get more passives

[plucky flax]

Yes if you want 200 toughness.

[ornate hamlet]

O.o

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not going to answer your question, but just know, I have this saved as PerfectPsyker

[mellow prairie]

Yes… I want 200 toughness

[ornate hamlet]

all gone in 3 boolets

[mellow prairie]

I want to buy what you’re selling

[mellow prairie]

I need more toughness

[plucky flax]

[mellow prairie]

It’s hard to regen toughness as a psyker.. veterans have that toughness thing. Zealot has their

all psykers can do is throw down a bubble.

I’ve been running bubble but I kind of want to do scriers gaze thing

[lethal lagoon]

Probably the closest thing to a viable 200 toughness Psyker

[plucky flax]

You need the big basket up top.

Big basket can give you all the toughness.

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Upoptimised? Maybe.
Funny? Very.

[lethal lagoon]

There's just something satisifying about filling in the basket

Why don't I an emote for "Hnng"

[slate oasis]

but psykers regen toughness constantly if you take the regen toughness when quelling or generating peril abilities

[lethal lagoon]

I always go to type it

And there's never an emote

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

we can make it even worse, take away all the good stuff and just leave warp expenditure, battle med, and the toughness

[mellow prairie]

Ah I have those but it never seems to doing it when I need it the most lol

[lethal lagoon]

That would be the psyker skill cap

Or skill floor?

[ornate hamlet]

skill?

[plucky flax]

I get toughness from getting shot at.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1234983333667012679/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_21.mp4?ex=6632b75b&is=663165db&hm=870b388da2bd9f74bfb5fa55011fd0289b8e7e9cb504e568b2f6d244ce9bb156&

[mellow prairie]

It’s when I need to regen toughness (e.g. facing a horde or being pinned by gunners) I never have time to imbue my force sword or hold a brain burst. And then when I don’t have any enemies and I’m at full toughness I’m just constantly playing with my force sword making it glow pretty colors

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

That's what the staff is for.

You can just auto-walk into gunners with something like Surge.

[mellow prairie]

Oh I didn’t know blocking bullets with your force sword increased peril

Oh you have the blocking bullet modifier on your sword

and that one skill that’s on the bottom of the tree where you can use peril instead of stamina to block.
Yeah I never got that to roll on my sword

It looks fun though

[plucky flax]

Yeah deflector.

Synergies with kinetic deflection and the toughness on peril (Imo worst toughness regen talent)

But I was playing the funny basket build.

[mellow prairie]

It looks good

[lethal lagoon]

🧺

[plucky flax]

Reject maximising dps. Embrace basket.

🗑️

[ornate hamlet]

2.5% toughness per 10% peril generated

25% at 100 peril

its not saving anyone, not that great

[mellow prairie]

call me a heretic but I actually prefer the shredder autopistol

[lethal lagoon]

Nah we like Gunkers in here.

But shredder

Those guys are weird

[ornate hamlet]

hipster

[mellow prairie]

[lethal lagoon]

Also, do you not run mettle, shouldn't shredder be giving you tons of toughness vs ranged?

Or does shredder not crit

[ornate hamlet]

why would you not run mettle

[plucky flax]

It crits loads.

[ornate hamlet]

best thing since toast

[lethal lagoon]

Then yeah, you shouldn't have any toughness problems.

Just go brr

Plus I assume you use scirer's

[ornate hamlet]

bubble gunker time

[lethal lagoon]

[mellow prairie]

Yeah it crits just not mine 😛

I’ll get a good roll on it one day no worries

[mellow prairie]

I like using bubble but if I have team that can keep itself alive I will use scriers gaze

[plucky flax]

Bubble + gun is certainly a build.

[ornate hamlet]

the worst part is with a culumnus its not even that bad.... speaks more about the columnus but still

[lethal lagoon]

It is indeed a build

[mellow prairie]

the build of all time

[ornate hamlet]

the build to end my will

[mellow prairie]

Scriers is definitely good. But bubble has gotten me (and my team) out of so many oh-shit situations, I can’t leave home without it

[ornate hamlet]

to build

[plucky flax]

Weapon promotes aggression ability promotes defense. Veri balanced build.

[ornate hamlet]

passive aggressive build

[lethal lagoon]

It's the type of build to tell you that you "look nice for once."

[plucky flax]

I am low key really enjoying the basket meme.

[lethal lagoon]

Basket with EP smite was my build for a while

[plucky flax]

Maybe game is so stale I don't want to face roll spamming f with surge staff anymore.

[lethal lagoon]

I think I just skipped mettle, which made me sad.

So sometimes I would use it anyways

[slate oasis]

what is the basket build?

[ornate hamlet]

a build utilized by basket cases like these 2 fine specimen

[plucky flax]

You bring a basket with you as your shield.

Impenetratable.

(Get all the toughness regen nodes)

[ornate hamlet]

tankier than ogryn

[lethal lagoon]

Hey that's my basket

Get your own

Nah just kidding, anyone can get in my basket

[cloud sequoia]

do you guys use blaze trauma on 4 stack of nexus?

[ornate hamlet]

i need a new basket

[cloud sequoia]

i tried it i exploded

[lethal lagoon]

Do we edge around 80% peril? Yes.

If I'm lazy I'll stick around 60

[mellow prairie]

Lowkey I don’t know what any of the icons mean on my HUD I just shoot stuff until my stacks go away

[lethal lagoon]

A pure meme that's actually kind of comfy to use

[plucky flax]

It's unoptimised but funny and comfy

[ornate hamlet]

its optimized for sedition

highly recommend

[plucky flax]

That's where I play

[slate oasis]

why take perilous combustion and perfect timing if you just want the toughness ones? just for the meme of having all the top nodes?

[ornate hamlet]

yes

basket

[lethal lagoon]

PC and perfect timing are crazy good

[slate oasis]

respectable

[lethal lagoon]

If you are gonna ask why, ask why for warp expen or bm

Then the answer is basket

Or random 15 toughness node

[ornate hamlet]

the toughness is because we want to be tough

the rest is basket

[lethal lagoon]

I can't remember the last time I ran a build without PC

[thick tiger]

There is a lot of shader compilation stutter in the game after the update, when I first started the game after the update, I did not get a shader compilation window, and now whenever there is a new thing on screen, the game stutters. Its so annoying, anybody got a fix?

[lethal lagoon]

Turn off your virtual cores.

I think darktide anti-cheat doesn't stop you, so you don't have to do anything complicated.

Just run darktide, use task manager, and turn em off just for darktide, you'll have to look up which are the virtual ones if you have a weird CPU

I would google this suggestion rather than me explaining it just in case

[cloud sequoia]

living bomb, trauma timing is so weird after using purg

having scrier ult is not helping ahahaha

[plucky flax]

Just have to play for like 2 hours.

It'll go after.

[lethal lagoon]

People told me that about Elden Ring

(that sounds plausible though)

[cloud sequoia]

how do you kill 40 enemies in 1 gaze

columnus?

[mighty olive]

I got mine on auricular damnation

[slate oasis]

I got it the other day using columnus mk5 with dumdum and speedload blessings

[mighty olive]

Horde came and they got slaughtered

I gots mine without speedload, had a good horde of trash mobs and they just got obliterated xD

[cloud sequoia]

i guess columnus or ilisi

[vestal fulcrum]

I did it with Illisi FS on Smelter Complex finale

[slate oasis]

yeah speedload wasn't really necessary but I just wanted to be safe

[mighty olive]

That's a good one, forgot what map I was on when I did mine

[vestal fulcrum]

Fun fact, I killed so many enemies the game had a temporary problem tracking how much peril it should add to the counter

Enclavum Baross middle event is also excellent for that penance

Just camp the balcony which spawns enemies

[lethal lagoon]

friendly reminder, you can quell during Gaze

[vestal fulcrum]

Just kill more/faster smh my head

[slate oasis]

the kill 40 enemies in one gaze thing would probably also be really easy to get with voidstrike on that map where you have to defend the long bridge while the elevator arrives

[vestal fulcrum]

Silo Cluster might also be good indeed

[cloud sequoia]

yea i know that

[plucky flax]

I did it at the start of relay station

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1234573320947499128/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_4_1.mp4?ex=663333c0&is=6631e240&hm=abf9a51f90dd7aa921f9e5a785d9c83d86a56de0b93e590514bda555390eb61c&

[upper sun]

why the hell do you get so much purple juice if you get downed in a trapper net

[paper lily]

think it's just a psyker thing i swear

its possible they buffed trap dmg for people who get trapped near a dropoff

[upper sun]

nah happened on zealot i got trapped then hit a bunch and now i have 5 purple wound s

[paper lily]

were u getting hit by poxwalkers?

[upper sun]

no i think brusiers or some shit

[paper lily]

cuz trap does so little purple dmg on its own

poxwalkers have corruption as part of their dmg spread

[upper sun]

yeah but i feel like if you go down with a net you get more curruption regardless of the cause of damage

[paper lily]

not too sure, maybe if you've been trapped awhile

[upper sun]

not too long insta dead from a silent one 😦

[paper lily]

im ngl the sound issues are like 99% fixed for me this patch, there's a few areas with bad culling but beyond that i don't think i've ever had a silent trapper post patch

[upper sun]

4 minutes ago

[paper lily]

typical

[upper sun]

i really hate this game

[paper lily]

oh u wanted that extra 1% burn? nah.

[marble crater]

80 mobility

[gilded marten]

what are the good blessing for voidstrike staff? and perks

[plucky flax]

Flak carapace maniac.
Warp nexus surge
Flurry surge

Use tru aim

[gilded marten]

aight

[rigid sky]

Nexus Surge or Nexus Flurry are good choices

Flurry Surge too

Some lunatics do transfer flurry and take Scrier's Gaze

[patent wing]

@plucky flax would u be up for 1-2 aurics these days?

like duo maelstroms

[plucky flax]

Yeah what region are you?

[patent wing]

euw

[plucky flax]

Ye can do some

[patent wing]

you also in europe?

[plucky flax]

Yessir

For now

[patent wing]

nice famous agentchaos playing with me

[plucky flax]

Don't get your expectations up

[marble crater]

Not until they buff trauma

[compact cargo]

Trauma doesn't need a buff

https://tenor.com/view/jedi-starwars-mind-trick-obiwan-gif-5199308

[plucky flax]

Yes pls

[hearty dagger]

We need to buff trauma

by giving Psyker a good looking helmet

[patent wing]

maybe in an hour or two or later in the evening?

[slate oasis]

I have to choose either soulstealer or quietude for this build I'm fiddling with. which one should I go with?

[plucky flax]

Yeah I can play tonight. On laptop though so I got my excuse ready

[plucky flax]

What staff?

And blitz

[patent wing]

must be a beast if it handles darktide

[slate oasis]

voidstrike and bb

[plucky flax]

Yeah 4080 mobile

Soulstealer

[slate oasis]

will do

[lethal lagoon]

[manic river]

Do Tac axes work for psyker

[quartz barn]

Hey if i can do AM with broken mods causing me to have 20 fps and sound cutting out you should be fine on a laptop

[marble crater]

Do they work for anyone?

[rigid sky]

Both if you can tbh, I kinda feel like they're both essentials

idk which of the two I'd prioritise higher, isn't there something else you can drop?

[marble crater]

Quietude has the advantage of being able to get toughness without any enemies around to attack

[radiant frigate]

that's like asking "should i have arms or legs"

both

[marble crater]

But soulstealer is better while fighting

[radiant frigate]

ideally

[rigid sky]

Literally all of my builds have both

I would imagine you're trying to find a way to make a full Warp Siphon investment work lol

I ended up dropping kinetic deflection on my warp siphon build

[marble crater]

Warp Charges are too expensive to afford both

[rigid sky]

since it's purgatus anyway and I can "block" with LMB puffs

[radiant frigate]

no kinetic deflection? Guh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/841646619647803394/1177640310675865610/buh.gif?ex=65733e01&is=6560c901&hm=df5d57d0647d2f1d9c1d9684746b7915a30944ba7af1e6631e12e9cd29ef3c91&

[marble crater]

Actual heretic in the discord

[slate oasis]

I could drop kinetic resonance

[plucky flax]

With high crit staves you get good toughness from mettle.

1 crit blast from trauma refill all toughness since its per enemy.

[gilded marten]

is there any dump stats for void strike staff?

[lethal lagoon]

Blast radius

[gilded marten]

hmmmm rlly?

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

It's true

[gilded marten]

i got this

[marble crater]

Lucky

[lethal lagoon]

Those perks are

But Elites isn't that bad

So keep Surge and Elites

[gilded marten]

imma try to change the sustained fire to nexus after i got moola

[thick tiger]

Voidstrike staff is more precision primary fire focused than trauma, right?

[plucky flax]

No it's the same.

[thick tiger]

So, no difference?

[plucky flax]

It's the secondary fire mode that's different

[thick tiger]

What does the secondary do instead of aoe attack?

[plucky flax]

It shoots a slow projectile forward.

[thick tiger]

I just got one with 80% on all stats except 49% on warp resistance, I remember warp res being the dump stat on trauma, is it the same case here, alongside blast radius

[plucky flax]

Yeah pretty much.

It generates peril less than trauma.

[thick tiger]

Nice, let's see if it gets bricked by Hadron

[plucky flax]

So can even be more dumpy if you want.

[radiant frigate]

slow?

[thick tiger]

Got terrifying barrage and unyielding damage on anointed

[plucky flax]

Yeah bolt from vt2 is faster.

[paper lily]

unyielding isn't bad no?

[plucky flax]

Surge is instant, same with trauma right click.

[thick tiger]

So I should continue then? Its not over yet?

[radiant frigate]

i think it is pretty over

[paper lily]

i always go to purple

[patent wing]

u know whatd be funny? a speed run auric mael contest between 2 groups made out of the recents™ here (without invis zealots etc)

[paper lily]

without seeded runs there's not really a fair way to make it a contest

[patent wing]

hm?

just make two groups and join the same mael and let them record

[paper lily]

yea, but they're not the same seed

it's the same mael sure but the ai director is gonna be completely different both games

[patent wing]

ahh

only fatshark can do this i guess

[paper lily]

it probably wouldn't even be hard

just make the session seed public and allow applying to a session

[patent wing]

<@&735928989146939404> we need this pls

[paper lily]

not sure if that's something mods can do

[patent wing]

just pass the request :D

[fading galleon]

what

[paper lily]

you might be able to achieve some degree of seeded session with solo mod sincei t's local

[patent wing]

seeded sessions to allow competitive runs

[fading galleon]

a) I don't know what that means and b) we don't even have mission select, what makes you think we can get something like this

[patent wing]

same enemy spawns for the same two groups that play the same map

[paper lily]

u would have to disable progress for those sessions too

[fading galleon]

this sounds way too specific and niche for fatshark to spend any devtime on

[patent wing]

it could be worth it, people like contests. would kinda create a team scene

[fading galleon]

it would be cool though but yeah. I give it 0% chance

[patent wing]

we just need to pitch it to FS in a gud way

[paper lily]

they will already have this supported in the game

it's just hidden from users

much like the true mission select like manymoretry

[patent wing]

competition is the main driver for ppl playing games -> look at league of legends, imagine without ranked there would be no playerbase

[paper lily]

eh that's the whole drive of that game

there's a mod called hardtide that is trying to emulate some degree of competition

but it's fairly barebones and i think the name is a disservice to what is possible, especially since powerdi is released now

[patent wing]

darktide worlds when?

[rigid sky]

Only for some players

I'm more into Jolly Cooperation

Competitive play makes me anxious and unhappy

I get hand jitters and play worse

[patent wing]

true but games like witcher3 do not make companys rich af
games like bf,cod,lol, dota do

[rigid sky]

Ok, it's probably true that there's a bigger market in competitive gaming

but also the competitive gaming field is ironically also more competitive

[paper lily]

to give credit to dt, i don't think there's a large competition for 'tide' games

[patent wing]

also youd still play vs bots and only compare TEAM finish time

[rigid sky]

Well, it's a horde shooter at its heart

[wet belfry]

Too much RNG for competition.

[paper lily]

thats what seeds are for

[patent wing]

thats why we were talking about seeds

[rigid sky]

it's a particular formula of horde shooter, but it's still another Left 4 Dead, CoD zombies, killing floor, etc style game

it's, in my opinion, the best iteration of that formula to date

[paper lily]

yea but i also wouldn't call this genre saturated either

[patent wing]

next tide i wanna play adeptus titanicus pls

[rigid sky]

Like, I love DRG and Helldivers as well, but I feel like they're shallow compared with Tide games

[paper lily]

DRG and helldivers are both pretty cheeseable

[quartz barn]

Theres also much less interaction with the enemies

[lethal lagoon]

Right, that's the problem with tide games. They are so well made, with probably the best FPS combat ever. But everything else surrounding the game is mid.

So they get you hooked and then

[quartz barn]

Neither drg or helldivers force you to adapt to the enemy unit like in tide games

[paper lily]

all 3 games force you to take a loadout that can deal with all situations

[rigid sky]

Honestly the only part that I dislike still is the weapon stat system

[paper lily]

not taking something that can deal with all situations just gets you killed

[lethal lagoon]

[rigid sky]

Not just the crafting part mind

[paper lily]

yea i mean kiting is op but in the case of say hd2 you literally just can't kill some shit with regular weaponry

[quartz barn]

Ye but in tide you also need proper movement, situational awareness, blocking/parrying etc

[rigid sky]

but how weapons are built in the first place, especially in slower firing or swinging weapons that are more sensitive to breakpoints

[lethal lagoon]

hd2 was literally what I was referring to

[paper lily]

ye

i just would end up overloading pubs

[lethal lagoon]

Running simulator

[paper lily]

let them get rushed by 500 enemies so the ai just breaks

dt has this problem too

breaks isn't even the right word, they don't have the processing budget to allow every entity to perform actions though

[lethal lagoon]

I've noticed some issues when "clutching" in dt that enemies seem to just dissappear sometimes.

Like the crowd thins and I haven't done enough damage to thin it.

[paper lily]

i notice it the most when ai director is going nuts and i get surrounded by unblockable enemies, they just won't swing

in hd2 they actually just despawn stuff that can't perform actions

im sure dt does it too but it's much less noticeable, likely cuz i play in first person

[lethal lagoon]

I'm usually in 1st

But I have notice enemies just appearing from thin air in 3rd

Like I had a silent crusher spawn from thin air right beside me and swing at me

I obviously wouldn't ahve noticed if I was in 1st

[paper lily]

i have an ultrawide, director absolutely spawns shit just off the side of players

[lethal lagoon]

Which is fine, but a lot of times it's not so fine

[paper lily]

it does feel like you get cheated

im fine with it if there was a spawn door or whatever

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it won't feel like you got cheated because you just assume it was a skill issue

[paper lily]

but it's like an area you 'cleared' so it should be safe to put your back to it

[lethal lagoon]

But if you see them spawn from thin air beside you...

[paper lily]

contrived difficulty is still difficulty ig

tbf it's balanced by backstab woosh so w/e

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, crushers are louder now too

So not a big deal

It's just interesting.

[thick tiger]

I just saw a horde spawn out of thin air while I was downed, there was that one time where I looked back, then forward and then instantly got downed by a scab that spawned in my back

[marble crater]

I have seen enemies spawn in from thin air in 1st, happens if you turn quick enough at the right moment

[paper lily]

director ignores downed/hogtied people in regards to enemy spawn

[lethal lagoon]

Sometimes it's just lag spawns though

Like room spawns loading too slow

[marble crater]

I will take that as a compliment

[lethal lagoon]

Unless you got trapped that game, it is

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[rigid sky]

Chaos cloaking devices obviously

[upper sun]

so true

[thick tiger]

I upgraded this one to orange and got Surge 4 and 25% damage to maniacs, I think I'm good with this one, lesson learned: Keep gambling, never stop, you will win eventually

[patent wing]

90% of gambler stop right before they hit big

[viral inlet]

this was doable with a mod
people used to do it before the mission board upgrade to play hi intensity damnation maps over and over again
no clue about it now

[paper lily]

mmt still allows replaying old missions, but just queueing the same mission doesn't actually apply the same seed

[patent wing]

thanks susan

[viral inlet]

well yeah the AI director will always change things up
if you want static challenges go play Weaves in V2, see how that turned out lol

[paper lily]

i was only a vt1 enjoyer, wasn't really happy with release state vt2 so skipped it

[upper sun]

idk things still feel kinda repetitive

many missions i can pretty much guess when and where a specialist is gonna spawn

[viral inlet]

to put things short taking out the randomness factor from gameplay makes the game infinitely more boring
Fatshark made an attempt at the leaderboard crowd which was like HOTS trying to have a competetive scene. it was never their target audience and so it died

[paper lily]

hots was actually a really fun casual game

[viral inlet]

this plus entirely separate progression, the grind, etc. etc.

[paper lily]

they just went too hard since sc2 era

[patent wing]

weaves required customs weapons?

[viral inlet]

you had to collect custom currency from scratch for Weaves by playing the game regularly
once you attained enough, you could upgrade your character level and weapons
everything was available for free with no rerolling required, but you needed that currency to dump 30-40 levels per item

[marble crater]

I never get trapped, but if I do it's my team's fault for not killing the trapper

[patent wing]

it shouldnt be static for retrys, only for contests and comparing teams - so only 1 seed useable for 1 contest round

[paper lily]

i only get trapped when my dodges are like negative a million really

[patent wing]

thats kinda stupid tbh and gatekeeps

[paper lily]

hit dodge move 0.1m

[upper sun]

so tru so tru even if i get trapped it was totally silent and its the games fault

[viral inlet]

they abandoned it and never tried to fix it since
but thankfully chaos wastes turned out well lol

[patent wing]

weaves wont make a competitive scene if its just a static level up pyramid

we just need contest mode where one can generate a seed, share it with multiple groups and this seed is then useable for 1 hour

this would be a static level then

[viral inlet]

no no, like
once you have your character geared up after the incessant farming, you can now actually play (as in have the gear for it) Ranked Weaves, which are about 150 static challenges with increasing difficulty
and you'd have five seasons of it since release

[patent wing]

yeah got it

still where is the competition

[viral inlet]

the leaderboard

that's it

fastest time and points score

cheaters top the ranks btw

[patent wing]

kek

[viral inlet]

you don't even get any fancy rewards, just a portrait frame for completing the season
there's a ton of seriously cool Weaves-exclusive weapon skins that are still unobtainable in any way

[patent wing]

our suggestion would be the implementation like described above without public leaderboards

[viral inlet]

what are your thoughts on the Onslaught Tournament for V2?

[patent wing]

i only peeked a few times into vt2 so i dont know what that is - could u briefly explain it

[viral inlet]

community-run modded difficulty tournament that groups of players can participate it
onslaught completely rewrites how enemies spawn in all the individual maps of the game to provide the hardest group challenge possible, including custom events and monster spawns
you have to genuinely train in a group (or not) to get good at beating it, which is encouraged by the community

you basically prepare for a month or so to play three-four onslaught maps in a row, the team that is the fastest wins

the challenge is "static" in that the maps are scripted to be challenging in a certain way, but otherwise the AI director still takes the wheel, which keeps things fun and random

monster triggers always spawn monsters/patrols, finales always send enemies in certain scripted waves, ambient enemies are generally way tougher, horde compositions are scripted but random etc.

it's pretty much the one competetive tournament for a -tide game and I think it's the closest one to being done right

[patent wing]

it sounds great and is kinda a middle-way between weaves and my suggestion.

[viral inlet]

yep

[near bluff]

I just dont get the point of comp pve

[viral inlet]

^^^^^^^ bragging rights

[near bluff]

It just sorta turns into "who can abuse the systems and ai the most"

[patent wing]

which group can finish the objective in the most efficient way?

[near bluff]

"Im so good i use void strike" type beat

[patent wing]

its a lot more work tho.
you have to design whole levels and only vary the details (via director)

[viral inlet]

the onslaught tournament at its core is just for fun and it has a charity fund part to it, but because it's a competition it inevitably developed some rivalry and ego issues

I mean, yeah, the modder did it anyway lol

[patent wing]

to be precise: my suggestion is to leave it -as is- and make seeds exportable for a certain amount of time -> 100% static spawns for 1 try and unlimited groups

if it really is already implemented like lightbringer thinks this should be easy to open up

advancing this system could mean tracking winrates in those "tournaments"

[viral inlet]

with how a lot of the game's mechanics run on RNG, like timers for hordes, timers for spawns, timers for event duration, weight distribution for enemy groups, RNG for ambient enemy spawn patterns etc. etc., you'd have to really wrangle the game to be compatible with this on a fundamental level
which is still doable judging by how weaves fare, but still

[near bluff]

Who the hell is lightbringer

[viral inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/linkara-coming-for-you-vagina-finda-did-you-learn-your-lesson-hmm-gif-14008494

[patent wing]

scroll up a bit

[near bluff]

And the fact spawn rates adjust based on how fast you are moving and how many things have gone poorly

[patent wing]

checkpoints?

[viral inlet]

https://new.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/aj9fvx/the_events_of_vermintide_2_and_their_inner/
according to this breakdown from grimalackt, you'd have to rewrite entire maps to only use scripted events and raw spawners
not sure how you'd generate a random seed this way

[near bluff]

Wdym checkpoints?

[patent wing]

could use checkpoints to trigger the scripted events

[viral inlet]

the game does check for map progression as you walk through it and has scripted events

[wet belfry]

Checkpoints already exist

[near bluff]

But the only "checkpoint" really is boss triggers

[wet belfry]

No there are “specialist checkpoints”.

[viral inlet]

source

[wet belfry]

Try running through a map on repeat.

The game will always spawn a specialist beyond running through a certain point.

[near bluff]

Thats not q source

[viral inlet]

that's placebo

[near bluff]

"I feel like it works that way" might aswell be "it came to me in a dream"

[viral inlet]

special spawns, alongside hordes, spawn on a randomized timer with weight distribution deciding what kind spawns at what situation and in what quantity
or at least according to what I've seen with debug tools and spawn tweak mods for V2

[wet belfry]

I mean in auric damnation it doesnt matter as it only spawns like 1 or 2 specialists.

[viral inlet]

there's also a speedrun prevention tool that makes specials spawn to chase your ass down if you rush
but it also hunts people who are left behind, a cruel mistress

[wet belfry]

Im pretty sure its a checkpoint solely designed to stop rushing.

[viral inlet]

you could be coming across scripted spawns yeah, the chance for that is non-zero
but it might just be your gamesense kicking in

[near bluff]

Its not a checkpoint, iirc its based on distance if ur talkin anti rush

[viral inlet]

speedrun prevention system checks for distance yes
either in map progression, which is just a line going through the map, or distance from players

or both?

[near bluff]

Both iirc

[upper sun]

theres also stuff to stop you from moving too slow

like the trapper/bomber that always spawns behind you after the first breach in carnival

[viral inlet]

could be scripted, could be just coincidence
cuz V2 does have something called Intensity or Tension, which checks how volatile the situation is at the moment and decides enemy spawn factor

[near bluff]

Dt also has intensity ye

[wet belfry]

Intensity exists in darktide

[viral inlet]

Darktide is more merciless in that regard, it does not give a shit if you're trying to clutch solo

[near bluff]

Ye auric specifically lowers intensity generation

[wet belfry]

I just think of it as a point system for the director. Over time the director generates more points.

Me doing certain actions can either increase the amount of points the director has or decrease it.

[paper lily]

by seeding i mean enemy composition etc

those are obviously determined at map start

what happens within the game is just mechanics, there will always be some rng

ur run had 500 more disablers? maybe stay in coherency more

[viral inlet]

trying to remove that randomness factor from the game inherently makes it a worse gameplay experience, so I don't expect that a seeded run of this sort, completely static and the same each time, will have a long interest
unless you concoct the hardest possible seed and use that for competition

[paper lily]

yeah of course, it was a contrived solution to a contrived problem

[wet belfry]

Hardest in this game usually means the most bullshit.

[paper lily]

a neverending horde/special spawner mode would be fun, at least for me

[viral inlet]

A Parting of The Waves is like that a little, the newest map in V2
the hordes never stop coming and the breaks are really short

[wet belfry]

Silo cluster starting area with the staircase

[viral inlet]

this plus it has a consistent stream of scripted spawns, but since they're tailor made for the map design, it's scripted in a good way imo

[paper lily]

i swear that area just takes longer because people don't jump down and take right side

[wet belfry]

Its in many cases a legit dps, survivalibilty check

[paper lily]

that map start is kinda how i wish the entire map was for all maps tbh

especially when it starts throwing snipers into the mix and really limits kiting

[wet belfry]

The most non interactive part of the game is how most of the game should be?

[marble crater]

I'm not even sure which map Silo Cluster is

[paper lily]

it is interactive, people don't interact with it :P

iirc silo cluster is the one with a fire escape staircase and a dropdown with a huge funnel roughly 60m in length

massive hordes spawning behind and in front, most people opt to linger in the staircase for whatever reason

[marble crater]

Ah the one that leads to the med station where everyone falls off the map all the time?

[paper lily]

i think so

can just check with solo mod

[marble crater]

[paper lily]

https://i.imgur.com/UtXm9t0.jpeg

this area

for some reason people stand around where i am and just die slowly instead of dropping behind

[wet belfry]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pkRUfJT5j1Q&pp=ygUMU2lsbyBjbHVzdGVy

This map

[wet belfry]

Yes it pretty much requires pushing forward

[viral inlet]

first minute of the video and the player spends his mag on regular shooters
not a real zealot, get him out of here

[wet belfry]

Which is exactly why its non interactive

[paper lily]

i don't really understand that argument

pushing forward is inherently interactive

it's like overwatch where your rein is just afk standing in choke waiting for someone to do something

[fading galleon]

water purification mission

[viral inlet]

shield ogryns

[lethal lagoon]

So true bestie, slay.

[fading galleon]

why that mission isn't called "Aqua Purifier 16-XBBLLEE55EEE--aAAKKAKA" or something instead will remain a mystery I guess. what the fuck is a "silo cluster"

I can understand the other map names

but not that one

[wet belfry]

Because it explicitly punishes the type of builds that cannot deal with the map.

[paper lily]

sounds like a build issue, to me

[wet belfry]

Yes ultimately its how it goes.

[paper lily]

which is a mistake you make once, maybe twice then realize that either a, you get the fuck out of the 60m sightlines to close on the shooters, or b, try shooting back

to say it's not interactive is definitely hyperbole though

[marble crater]

Ah then that is the map with the death trap med station

[wet belfry]

Theres not really any area to safetly evade shooters

[paper lily]

yes there is

[patent wing]

maybe you can explain me how two players circumvented all airlocks and just walked to extraction point

didnt even do missions

[wet belfry]

The closer to the staircase the more specials you get from behind

[paper lily]

there's a few clipping issues in the game

yeah that's why you get off the staircase

[wet belfry]

Which gives less cover.

[paper lily]

no it doesn't

i'll take a screen

[upper sun]

vigil station oblivum will remain the only mission name i can remember

[paper lily]

https://i.imgur.com/VP4clYD.jpeg

drop here

https://i.imgur.com/zEMBAMu.jpeg

ur now here

2-3 slides to actual cover on the right

[patent wing]

but why u dont have to do missions

[wet belfry]

Ye and now you cannot kite or retreat.

[patent wing]

ah the ships already there i guess

[paper lily]

ur not supposed to anchor there, which is the problem you're having already

you don't just afk

ai takes a bit to divert back to you, just move

[wet belfry]

Yes so you have to move forward.

[paper lily]

this is the fastest way to do so outside of shooter range

[wet belfry]

Which is yet again a dps check…

[paper lily]

the whole ass game is a dps check by that logic really

[wet belfry]

Theres no actual decision here expect one.

[paper lily]

you are playing a linear game, the only decision is forward

that's map agnostic

[wet belfry]

Most areas have kiting or some form of response to a threat.

[paper lily]

i just gave you one

most of that horde is left side, not on the right

[viral inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/reggie-reggie-vs-iwata-reggie-fils-aime-satoru-fight-gif-24920256

[thick tiger]

Should I change unyield 20%+ on this? Have one more modification to make, carapace seems to be decent, what do you think?

[paper lily]

i mean you can freely swap to whatever perk you want really

buff it to 25, make it something else, your choice

[upper sun]

yeah

[viral inlet]

what does the force staff do

[paper lily]

it forces the enemy to die

[upper sun]

keep maniac and see what you wanna do with the other perk try out stuff

[upper sun]

damage

[viral inlet]

is it the projectile nuke, the lighting rod or the flamestaff

[fluid skiff]

spells and shit. it also has a bad melee

[paper lily]

void is a void ball

[marble crater]

Shoot a big ball

[upper sun]

pretty much a plasma gun with better fire rate and bigger charge rate difference

[viral inlet]

wtf voidstrike used to do 1000 dmg fully charged

[paper lily]

i don't think those values are correct

but i could be wrong

that's bodyshot dmg, pretty sure hs dmg is at least 1k

why does staff special attack have 22 cleave on held swing lmao

[viral inlet]

voidstrike used to be able to kill crushers in two fully charged headshots which is why I ran surge on it
can it do that anymore? I don't remember if it got nerfed

[paper lily]

i'm not a void player so i don't know specific details

it looks like it comes close but not quite, on crit hs

that's not accounting for peril related dmg buffs

might do with proper talents

[viral inlet]

bring back october 4th, voidstrike used to rule the world

[mental rock]

Voids can one hit crushers with surge

And you can reliably do so with true aim

[marble crater]

Sounds OP, please nerf and buff Trauma instead

[rigid sky]

DD surge/Nexus Voidstrike is peak power fantasy

[radiant frigate]

me when i cast disintegration bolt at a crusher and it vanishes from existence

[rigid sky]

I like when you throw 2-3 ahead at what doesn't look like much

And then get 10 shitgunners in your killfeed

[radiant frigate]

Yes

the shotgunner squad:

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[plucky flax]

🧺

[slate oasis]

what weapons are you using with the basket?

[marble crater]

Must be nice to have this many loadout slots

[plucky flax]

Deimos deflector purga

[radiant frigate]

burgertus

[upper sun]

i hate this game so much we just spoke about how some shit is scripted

i swear the game reads my discord messages to find out what mission i wanna do just to mess it up

how does relay station even happen with out the big ass wave of enemies next to the fan