psyker-class

[gloomy magnet]

fart like ... ogryn?

[supple dock]

i can only hope it isn't worse than this

[strong gulch]

The only breakpoint being missed is around 74 damage on trauma to one shot bruisers. Not the worst thing ever. If you're just looking to play blaze trauma and not sweat about it, that staff is more than good enough.

[true lake]

the special mission wasnt much better, im not the best myself but got absolutely wiped left and right on it with randoms going down like flies

[tough obsidian]

fellas where do i fin the weapon customization mod?

i wanna make my staff look like one from rogue trader

[rich spindle]

Isnt it on nexus

[radiant frigate]

it is indeed on nexus

[slate oasis]

back when I made this sword I was told these were the meta blessings. is this combo still good or have things changed enough that I should make a new one?

[radiant frigate]

still good

[alpine flax]

Best poker around

[rigid sky]

Perks could be improved though

[paper lily]

i wouldn't even bother unless you have literally nothing else to spend money on

[potent echo]

The only thing I would consider changing the perk to is unyielding, 1 less stab for bulwarks and more boss dps etc

[severe folio]

anything new

[potent echo]

No

[severe folio]

sleep

[potent echo]

Patchie

[rigid sky]

Carapace imo

[slate oasis]

I'll test out unyielding and carapace

I like being able to occasionally one tap mutants, but it's seemingly inconsistent and idk if the current damage boost is necessary for it

I'm thinking carapace might be the way to go since I rarely end up dealing with bulwarks but I do poke maulers and crushers pretty often

[rigid sky]

I use my Duelling Sword only in my gunker build, which has issues with Crushers otherwise

So Carapace is the obvious choice for me. I guess for somebody else it depends on what they pair it with

[rich spindle]

You need a crit with that to one shot mutants

[spice veldt]

turns out that there is a funny mauler one-shot with 15 stack DD and +elite & +carapace
time to make a riposte duellie

[rich spindle]

Even with 6 warp charges it doesnt one hit headshot

[spice veldt]

you'll prob one-shot if you have some peril for warp rider so there's that

and it's easy to potshot a mutant to set up a one-shot since they run in a straight line towards you most times

[ornate hamlet]

I gotta say, I am loving this setup:

[vestal fulcrum]

Bloodthirsty is fine, not a bad blessing at all

[ornate hamlet]

It's fantastic.

It does so many things in one blessing.

It triggers these three, for one.

[vestal fulcrum]

At least it’s not bad on Illisi, I can’t say the same about its state of balance on Obscurus and Deimos

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, because the blade gets "stuck"

[paper lily]

perfect timing procing on whiff is kinda meh

mettle on demand is nice tho ig

[ornate hamlet]

This has potential. Warp Flurry could make this great...

Donno, would have to feel for it.

[vestal fulcrum]

33% charge rate

You can do better

[ornate hamlet]

I have better.

But on the off chance it gets better than what is better?

[paper lily]

blast radius is dump stat on void i think

idk i greatly dislike void

[vestal fulcrum]

High Damage, charge rate and quell speed are the most desirable modifiers

Warp resist and blast radius don’t have to be high

[ornate hamlet]

THis is my better.

[paper lily]

guess you don't have surge yet

[ornate hamlet]

I do

But, I dont like the lack of warp flurry

[paper lily]

i mean personally, i roll with flurry and surge

[ornate hamlet]

I cant, see?

[paper lily]

yea i know

just true aim exists so nexus is kinda mid

https://i.imgur.com/bna4gH4.png

this is my current void but i legit never use it

[ornate hamlet]

I also have a trauma staff with exorcist and salvo for funsies.

[paper lily]

staff lmb not to be underestimated

idk why trauma quell on weakspot is stronger than the other staves that have it

[stuck sinew]

I have a nexus/surge trauma just for goofing around with LMB it's very funny

[spice veldt]

tbf the other staff that has it is the voidstrike

[stuck sinew]

Prefer trauma CC as the backup when doing that

Knock things over then pelt them

Or just quickly mulch a little group of trash

It also kinda forces you to commit to the gimmick more

[rigid sky]

Flurry/Nexus is pretty solid too tbh

[rigid sky]

Yeah, and that should be multi-weakspotting every cast

[paper lily]

kinda wish void orb wasn't so fat

psyker tallness actually matters if you wanna main that staff

[radiant frigate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i am minimum height and voidstrike is fine

[paper lily]

just makes hitting lines of hs from far away more difficult since you're gonna be angling up

voidstrike will always be fine but if you're a sweaty nerd like me it matters

[radiant frigate]

ah, you mean main-main

like main weapon type of main

as opposed to "this is my favored ranged weapon"

[rigid sky]

At least you can alter your height now

[slate oasis]

I've always been minimum height and used voidstrike more than any other weapon and never had issues

[wind spruce]

There's a lot of situations where you're only getting one true aim charge per shot though (and sometimes not even that)

Nexus puts in a lot of work then

[upper sun]

j-just 5 more games

[paper lily]

i'm sure you're right, i'm not a void enthusiast so

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Iirc, there's a mod's discord server and it's there.

[tough obsidian]

can i get the link for it?

[urban sandal]

pretty sure it's in #📌communities

[tough obsidian]

im assuming the modders discord?

[urban sandal]

yeah

[tough obsidian]

ty!

[gleaming hornet]

Is disrupt destiny bugged, or am I crazy? I keep killing the glowing boys, but the stacks in the UI tick down very quickly, even though I have the 10 second duration node, and I can never seem to get beyond 2-3 charges tops

You also can't test it in the meat grinder, because it doesn't highlight enemies there, which is great

[marble crater]

The short icon is the buff for killing a blue boy, the actual stacks have a visual bug

[gleaming hornet]

Neat

[marble crater]

You still have the stacks though

[gleaming hornet]

So they work in the background, but the actual number of stacks is a mystery?

[marble crater]

Indeed, sometimes they show though

[potent echo]

Yea you can see the count sometimes

[gleaming hornet]

That checks out

[potent echo]

I use a buff manager mod so i have no issues

[gleaming hornet]

Yeah, that would've been my next question. Guess it's time to add another mod to the list

[marble crater]

cries in no mods

[gleaming hornet]

Man, I couldn't stand playing without mods anymore

Psych Ward was a revelation. No more 1-10 minute loading screens because the Mourningstar can't decide whether it wants to load or not

[urban sandal]

I always forget that the game doesn't show you other players true level and what stim they have equipped by default cos I'm so used to the mods that it baffles me they haven't done stuff like that themselves

but they have no problem with mods so ig they know they exist and let the mods be that feature for them

[gleaming hornet]

At this point, why bother, the people who care about that sort of detail will just use mods

[urban sandal]

right

[strong gulch]

If they can use mods.

[urban sandal]

I think the stim one should be a thing by default though, knowing whether someone has a health stim or not can be a big deal when it comes to potentially sharing your own or whatever

[strong gulch]

When I play un-modded, I feel like a cat being pet against the grain.

[gleaming hornet]

Honestly, I'm almost baffled they're cool with some mods. Collectible finder to a lesser degree, and health bars especially almost toe the line to being cheats

[potent echo]

If they start policing they need to do work

[upper sun]

thats oddly specific

[potent echo]

Fatshark and extra work? Psssshh

[upper sun]

fatshark and work?

[potent echo]

But they do loosely "approve" of whatever is on nexusmods

They don't crash the game and steal your data at least

[upper sun]

man they have their own dev mods

[urban sandal]

yeah I think the health bar mod can give a pretty big advantage that people don't really realise but it's one of those weird ones

[upper sun]

they dont play vanilla 100%

one of the devs said "oh its so weird walking around the mourningstar for missions"

bruh 🙄

[potent echo]

You can just silently judge everytime someone posts gameplay with healthbars

[plucky flax]

Mods cheater

[potent echo]

Imagine walking, hub hotkeys 🥵

[gleaming hornet]

Health bars are absurdly useful, yeah. Seeing priority targets through the thick of a horde, knowing which crusher can be focused down quicker than the rest to thin out the press, many situations where having that info can be all the difference

[potent echo]

Same, just go to mod options

[urban sandal]

it's just an option in the true level settings

[plucky flax]

In mod options menu

[ornate hamlet]

Have you checked the mod options?

[potent echo]

Is this what a discord ratio looks like

[slate oasis]

wow I'm dumb. I'm not used to mods having menus so I didn't even think to check. thanks

[slate oasis]

I got it yesterday when I started using mods because it was in a list of recommended ones and it does feel kinda cheaty for exactly this reason. without the mod there would be way too much chaos going on to know which dangerous enemy to focus a lot of the time

[potent echo]

Use whatever you are comfortable with

[urban sandal]

yeah knowing which specialists/elites are 1 hit from death or full hp is huge

[ornate hamlet]

I wana try going into auric i but unsure as to whether purgatus or surge staff is better. Is a cc psyker or a bb psyker better

[urban sandal]

why not both

[patent wing]

BB with blue stam + kinetic + ep ist nice

[urban sandal]

trauma/bb

[patent wing]

machine gun bb

8 crushers np

gimme 5 sec

wait actually brain burst triggers kinetic flayer right

[potent echo]

You would need to play to the strength of your chosen build

[marble crater]

I have seen all staves being used in auric, as long as you can play your build and your build can deal with most situations it doesn't matter what you play. Have something for hordes, something for big targets and something for specials and you are good to go, imo

[potent echo]

So end of the day is which playstyle you are more comfortable with

[ornate hamlet]

See i like that. But i wanted to make sure my stuff is up to scratch

[marble crater]

Now I will say, if you can play both builds well, then Surge staff is better than Purgatus, imo.

[potent echo]

Most important player skill factor in DT is mainly movement and positioning

[ornate hamlet]

Ive heard you can have 3x 80 stats on gear best ive ever had is 2. And i wana be as useful as possible

[potent echo]

There are some loadouts that don't require as much to succeed

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah learned that the hard o e

[potent echo]

I.e. voidstrike/trauma

[urban sandal]

you can get 4x80 and 1x61

[ornate hamlet]

No way!

[marble crater]

But you definitely don't need that

[potent echo]

Purg will struggle against shooters unless you know how to run slide everywhere while channeling

Surg will suffer against hordes if you are surrounded on all sides

[ornate hamlet]

Ill be honest im still practicing the quick fire spam with purg

[potent echo]

Lmb purg is mainly to stagger elite waves

You still want to channel for general use

Purg also has insane suppression, run into gunner lines and suppress burn them

One important tech is that you can actually sprint slide forward while holding rmb for ALL staves

[ornate hamlet]

also because of how burn stacks and falls the right click refreshed your burntimer when it applies one stack so against monsters you can first apply your burn then switch to braining it with you bb or sword and every 4-6 seconds switch to the staff and do a quick burn reapply

[ornate hamlet]

Is that as easy on comsole?

[paper lily]

might be easier tbh

[marble crater]

Eh, I dislike anything that involves taking the thumbs off the sticks, which you would have to do for this

[potent echo]

Just hold charge, forward, sprint and tap crouch

Idk what the controller buttons are

[paper lily]

probably depends on ur binds but i can't imagine it being that bad

[marble crater]

Console doesn't have custom binds, and the layouts from fatshark are not great, to be honest

[ornate hamlet]

Its not the worst tbh

[paper lily]

oh? that's unfortunate

i'd probably have dodge and crouch on lmb and lt

[ornate hamlet]

Can we not post builds

[paper lily]

you can post builds

[potent echo]

There's a builds channel

For each class

[marble crater]

You can once you talked more, it's bot protection

When you get a red name, you can post pictures

[ornate hamlet]

Ahh thats fair

[marble crater]

But you could use this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/

[ornate hamlet]

Thats what i used

hmmm not sure if i would trust every build youve seen on there

A habit from mhw carry era of my life i always have skeptics on trusting community builds

[marble crater]

You can post the link to the build, or does that not work either?

[ornate hamlet]

Lemme try

[marble crater]

Well no, I thought they wanted to show us their builds, which they can do there

[ornate hamlet]

i still havent fiqure out how you post builds using thatwebsite, is it the share button?

or are people just shrinking their screens and screen cutting

from website to discord i should say

[marble crater]

You make the build, give it a name and then go to Save Build at the bottom, then you should be able to share the link to the build

But yeah, if I want to show people just the talents then I take a screenshot on my phone

[thick tiger]

Is it sound to make do with a +2 stamina curio instead of a health+ or toughness+ curio, until I get a +3 stamina one, I'm running a MK IV Duel Sword, which I'm not sure would benefit, when I equip it, it only has 2 stamina bars, which generate very fast

[ornate hamlet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bee529f-5e01-4943-98b1-7ec5d43229c2/auric?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Ive a ton of different curios those are just what i have equipped atm

[marble crater]

One of the biggest benefits with a stamina curio is using the Kinetic Deflection talent, even just a +2 will help and should be good enough to get used to the less health or toughness while you wait for the +3

[thick tiger]

The dueling sword does not get extra stamina bars though, does it?

[ornate hamlet]

kinetic deflection also has the nice benifit of making it so if you dont want stamina you dont need it

[marble crater]

It should, they are added to every weapon you use, iirc

[paper lily]

stamina curio will increase the efficiency of blocking with kd

the peril cost per block is significantly reduced

[ornate hamlet]

Hows its look

[marble crater]

I will give some advice in a bit

[thick tiger]

I hope the base stat of a 2+ stamina curio doesn't matter, since 75 base stat Stamina 3+ curios are apperantly 2+ curios instead

[paper lily]

it does matter

[paper lily]

recommend removing the ep middle node and warp expenditure for perilous combustion and wildfire

[thick tiger]

I just got a 72 base stat one, before that I had a 34 base stat one, so I think that should be good

[upper sun]

this is kinda the surge traditional build

with blessings on it being flurry/nexus perks flak+crit/maniac/elite/whatever

[thick tiger]

That's exactly my build on psyker, talent tree as well, very fun but hurts my wrist

[strong gulch]

Yup, still bugged.

[paper lily]

whats extra annoying about that bug is it looks fine in meatgrinder

[upper sun]

3 more years emperor willing we will get it fixed

[ornate hamlet]

Ok wheres wild fire

[paper lily]

left side

kinda close to pc

[ornate hamlet]

Ok done both of those. Any other changes?

Or it look ok?

[thick tiger]

I was devastated when I learned that bug

Toughness regen was the go to curio perk for Psyker, right?

[marble crater]

That's my suggestion for talents, rest where you want.

Wildfire and the 10% smite upgrade maybe

[ornate hamlet]

wild fire and epathetic evasion are what i would grab

[marble crater]

Then when you use surge you don't need a deimos, so I suggest switching that to an illisi to deal with hordes.
Surge with Flak and then elites/manic, Flurry and Nexus
Illisi with flak and maniac, deflector and slaughterer.

[paper lily]

i take toughness regen speed on all curios

empathetic evasion has limited usefulness if you're learning hard on smite

[ornate hamlet]

yeah i never use smite, the penance for smite was the most i used it. felt like during the etirety of that penance i used it naturally a couple times and the rest was forced to get the penance over

[stiff falcon]

Cannon fodder feels like the average auric player

[slate oasis]

what is the bug?

[ornate hamlet]

3 stam curio only giving 2

when its rating is 75

[paper lily]

https://i.imgur.com/TDOW0SS.png now THIS is an average auric game

[potent echo]

the numbers do not show decimals, so it might be fucky

[potent echo]

scoreboard farted

[paper lily]

nah we had a bot for a chunk of the game

that guy joined last chunk of the mission

[strong gulch]

Base rating 75 "+3" stam curios only give +2 in a mission despite them showing the +3 bonus in the item card and meatgrinder.

These are still bugged.

Left with DS is in the meat grinder. Right with DS is in a mission.

[stiff falcon]

Real

[cosmic sigil]

that bug is old af

i have been burned multiple times by it

[rich spindle]

Illisi with flak and crit chance is big brain

[upper sun]

flak maniac go in all fields on all weapons

blessings? more flak pls

[strong gulch]

It really is. So fecking old. Patches have repeatedly fecked up blessing info on weapon cards that have been repeatedly fixed. So idk why this hasn't been fixed.

Like, just put in +2.

[marble crater]

I put flak and unarmored on my DS2 for horde clear

[strong gulch]

Maniac, cara, unyielding, or crit chance are the general perks for DS4.

[ornate hamlet]

Outta curioity why kinedtiv deflection

[strong gulch]

Makes your blocks THICC. You can shrug off a horde to pick up a player or tank monster hits.

[marble crater]

Because you can block for a looooooong time and build up peril which you can then use to shriek and then block even longer, if you mess up bad

[strong gulch]

That's without a stam curio.

[marble crater]

You can block rager combos

[vestal fulcrum]

Messing up is part of the plan

[marble crater]

I admit to standing in a horde, just blocking to build peril only to shriek and walk away

[vestal fulcrum]

Constantly having skill issues is the name of the game

[marble crater]

I use maniac and cara on my DS 4 and 5, I'm not crazy

[strong gulch]

I'm too used to KD ebcause I always run it. I was playing zealot and tried to rez someone in a horde. It didn't work.

[marble crater]

[vestal fulcrum]

Zealot has at least 2 more stam to block, though

But you can’t literally tank an entire wave of groaners and get away with it

[marble crater]

Much less likely to have to in the first place

[strong gulch]

true. I forget

[ornate hamlet]

Ahh ok

This is good for general use or staff specific?

[strong gulch]

Fecking psyker things. Tank a whole horde picking someone up then mega CC; but don't let one of those groaners sneeze on you or you're done.

[vestal fulcrum]

I got stabbed as Vet yesterday at 0 toughness by a groaner

[marble crater]

The suggestions I made, talents and weapon changes are for surge staff

[vestal fulcrum]

-96HP

[near wyvern]

Question. Why did they make flamer and bomber resist melee only again.

[ornate hamlet]

Ty imma test it on some heresy

[marble crater]

Psyker: Kill 20 elites without losing 1 HP
Also Psyker: lose 50% HP from two poxwalkers

[upper sun]

they did WHAT

[vestal fulcrum]

Did you test it and stumbled upon it ?

[strong gulch]

Melee. YOu can be more aggressive with stam use with dodges and push attacks while still having room to block a lot. You can block a whole horde while picking someone up off the floor too.

[near wyvern]

I tested it as part of updating the Atheneum

[upper sun]

bruh

[ornate hamlet]

its like grail knight, that entire patrol was no problem but those 2 skavenslave that came up behind him

[vestal fulcrum]

Grave news

Old “bugs” being live again

[near wyvern]

And Fatshark has a track record of running two different builds so old bugs flip flop every second update back into game

[upper sun]

at this point im not even surprised

[strong gulch]

One powalker gently touches psyker's shoulder and it staggers them.

[potent echo]

That's quite an accurate representation of a sneak attack

[near wyvern]

The reason it deals so much damage is not because it would physically hurt. It's because allowing a poxwalker to sneak up on you and touch you with their rotten hands is mentally so painful.

[strong gulch]

too real

[potent echo]

uh oh, stinky

[marble crater]

My beloved doesn't like it when we get touched

[strong gulch]

Someone sticking their hand in rotting viscera and then touching my face would give me such a fit; or even dirty dish water.

[paper lily]

leaves the fresh cold wet feeling behind

[marble crater]

We consider dishes washed in dish water to be clean, but our hands feel icky after putting them in the same water

[clear hamlet]

Big mood

[strong gulch]

Rinse away the gruck grabbed by soap. I hate dishes.

[near wyvern]

It's because the dishes are treated to not be porous; they don't suck the water in. However, your skin is porous so the water and the junk sucks into your skin a bit.

I hope you don't have mysophobia

[strong gulch]

I don't, but others might disagree.

[marble crater]

That makes sense
I don't know what mysophobia is though, so I can't have it

[strong gulch]

big brain

[supple dock]

fear of cooties

well, germs, but still

[marble crater]

I see, I'm German, so I think I'm immune to that

[upper sun]

im so sorry brudi 😦

[marble crater]

[ornate hamlet]

Ok yeah this build chunks ty

And yeah i saw the advantages lf kinetice deflection holy fuck

[supple dock]

kinetic deflection can save an entire run

[radiant frigate]

is it terminal or is there still hope

[marble crater]

Being German is terminal, I'm afraid

[radiant frigate]

i will pray for you

🙏🏻

[marble crater]

Thank you sibling

[supple dock]

my condolences

[thick tiger]

To those using warp siphon and venting shriek, how likely are you to reach 6 charges of warp battery that makes the warp battery modifier worth it?

[mental rock]

The higher the difficulty, the easier it becomes

[supple dock]

Some people swear by it, but if you're looking to use your ult off of cooldown I don't think it's worthwhile

[thick tiger]

Damnation and above?

[supple dock]

mmhm

Since it's so packed with elites

[ornate hamlet]

I used the extra two@points tfor battle med and +5% movement

[upper sun]

ive been using warp siphon with double shield for the penance and i can get up to 3 charges most of the time while using it asap

[ornate hamlet]

i cant get off that disrupt destiny crack, i cant be bothered with warp syphon... send help

[upper sun]

DD is great but i refuse to aim so its not for me 😭

[marble crater]

Battle mediation is good if you want to extend the smite time, movement speed can be good too, or you give wildfire a try instead

[thick tiger]

I use venting shriek a decent amount, especially when I go above 100% peril when I know my ult is ready and there are mobs in front, so maybe I should use the talent point elsewhere, in fire reborn doesn't seem worth it either

[cold oasis]

the new disrupt destiny is so nice andcomfy

[marble crater]

"Fixed crash that happens if the player is running the game with an account that has been gifted an item around the game’s initial release date."
Damn, some of these bugs are crazy

[upper sun]

WHAT

what the spaghetti code

[thick tiger]

This game is janky in almost every way except maybe the very core of the gameplay, still fun af

[ornate hamlet]

Also run slide charge is very easy

[marble crater]

I can't code at all, I was more surprised that something like that can lead to the game crashing

Sadly the controller layout bug is not listed there, maybe it was shadow fixed

[upper sun]

OK this i can live with

after spending ~400k every week for surge bases and bricking all of them

this is good enough

[marble crater]

Not bad indeed

How happy were you after rolling crit chance and then flurry?

[upper sun]

pretty happy yeah

like 3% on flurry is so negligible

even then good base charge rate

[thick tiger]

Very nice

Is the general consensus that warp expenditure is bad that +15 toughness or 5% speed or 5% toughness reduction are better choices? Even if you have a build that generates a decent amount of peril?

[upper sun]

the thing is mettle already does something similar and kinda better

i wouldnt mind having both warp expend and quitetude but warp siphon too fat 😦

[thick tiger]

Would you take any of the basic modifiers like 15+ toughness over it?

[upper sun]

yeah tbh

but the issue is with psyker either you have 100% toughness or you're dead

the 15 doesnt make much difference aside from making me feel better

and causing a poxwalker to do 40% damage instead of 50%

[plucky flax]

I tried crit chance surge staff I think the perk has minimal impact, unlike blaze trauma.

[upper sun]

delete this post rn

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

idk it feels nice but thats prolly because it has good base stats

[plucky flax]

Rip no maniac

[upper sun]

rip

[vestal fulcrum]

I’ll delete you with my +Elite damage perk Surge

[ornate hamlet]

screw it, sprint efficiency stamina staff

who needs break points

[supple dock]

You get shredded no matter how much emphasis on defense you use

[ornate hamlet]

Man stats im focusinn on for my staff are dmg quell and charge rate?

[supple dock]

So more utility is generally stronger

[supple dock]

depends on staff

[ornate hamlet]

Surge

[upper sun]

maniac is good too

[supple dock]

damage crit charge and quell in that order

[vestal fulcrum]

I have no respect for Maniac perk on my Surge

Flak + Elites gang

[supple dock]

just DS4 it

[vestal fulcrum]

This person gets it

[ornate hamlet]

honestly, who needs staff when sharp metal stick exists

[ornate hamlet]

Ok so my staff is 80 in dmg and charge rate. Crit is 78. Quell is 79 amd warp res is 40

[supple dock]

very workable, but you'll have to be a bit more careful than most people because the resistance is so shit

If you're gonna peril edge I suggest staying at around 55-65%

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah. Its annoying. Its hard to change off coz of the high quell etc

[supple dock]

You should be weaving surge with melee

[marble crater]

Congratz on the red name, now you can post pictures

[ornate hamlet]

welcome to the red shirts

[supple dock]

well "should" is more preferential but that's how I play. I'm super super aggressive

[ornate hamlet]

In the cool crew

I normal start quelling at 70-80 unless i shriek

[marble crater]

You sure are

[supple dock]

look man I will fight people who disrespect me

[ornate hamlet]

are we talking agressive enough that the sword is used more than the staff?

[supple dock]

I use it about 50/50

[ornate hamlet]

i respect that

eh 50/50 little bit less respect but atleast its not voidstrike

[supple dock]

Things like maulers and crushers get the surge staff

And I run in first cause I can fuck up whoever's at the front line while my team takes care of the rest in some capacity. It's hard to put into words because it's just a rhythm you get into that fits your playstyle

Psykers who stay in the back will outdamage me but I willingly take a lot of enemy heat

[ornate hamlet]

and all the gunfire

you get real good at slide dodging bullets real quick

[supple dock]

yes, but surge allows you to be a little more reckless since it stuns enemies who take up positions to shootcha

[ornate hamlet]

oh you mean you dont go full blow monkey and slide across the entire room to go stab a couple gunners

man i should of played zealot they seem more my energy

[supple dock]

yeah no, you have 90 base toughness and 165 base hp

[marble crater]

There is no rule that says you can't play all classes

[ornate hamlet]

i do but psyker is what i played the most

i got true level and i thought it would be close

nope

[supple dock]

tbf if you can get the hang of melee combat with psyker you can dominate on any of the other classes

[ornate hamlet]

yeah also the melee weapons psyker does have are amazing

with a few duds

cough obscuris cough

oh anticipation and being able to block with peril are cool too

[potent echo]

obscuris isnt bad

its just deimos exists

[ornate hamlet]

yeah lmao

[strong gulch]

more like obsoleteus

[ornate hamlet]

i truely dont know what the obscuris has going for it over the deimos, i mean i think it has more stagger... like i can push a gunner with 2 normal pushes... cool but the push attack is like a super push on both the diemos and obscuris

[supple dock]

It's supposed to be a decent mix of damage and horde

But instead it takes the worst qualities of both

You get the animation lock on special for not as much damage and you get awkward combos to get horizontal swipes

[strong gulch]

"Fixed an issue that caused the puzzle elevators at Ascension Riser 31 to teleport players who had walked on them to be teleported inside once started."

Yay. So it wasn't obtuse on purpose.

[marble crater]

I was so confused the first time

[upper sun]

ye

the worst one is the platformer puzzle in the one with the bridge

where you have to scan dead people to unlock the elevator

ok fr i need flash cards with mission names

[paper lily]

did the patch completely fuck performance

getting insane stuttering

[marble crater]

Where you need to go right and then jump around with the skull being in a "cage"?

[upper sun]

ye

[marble crater]

Just don't fall down

[upper sun]

ITS THAT EASY

[upper sun]

maybe it messed up your settings

[marble crater]

I haven't played yet, hopefully all the crashes are gone, was getting really old

[upper sun]

switch to pc we have infinite loading screens instead of crashes

[paper lily]

Nah they definitely fucked something up

[marble crater]

I have random long loading screens too, can play 5 missions without problem and then suddenly infinite loading

[paper lily]

Use psykanium mod or whatever and queue from operative screen

[upper sun]

yesterday i had 3 insta faill missions on join 3 join fails and 2 infinite loading screens

[paper lily]

It's the hub that's making that take ages

[upper sun]

devs dont even use it

first target is too low rite?

i shouldnt... right? no way

whats the point of any of those?

[marble crater]

Low first target helps with not killing things to proc blazing spirit

[upper sun]

🤔

nah its kinda bricked

[marble crater]

It is, at least you get a t4 blessing out of it

[upper sun]

ye im not surrendering that shit tho maybe we can switch stats in the future or some shit

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

:copium:

[vestal fulcrum]

Not necessarily, I don’t think

I mean, IDK, one would have to do the math, and this is Discord, I’m embarrassed by doing math in public

[upper sun]

made for a beautiful brick anyways

[marble crater]

You should have my luck with crafting dueling swords

[upper sun]

(ill take any luck not just yours)

the sword that just needs ONE thing to be good is my worst attempt at crafting 😭

[marble crater]

Slaughterer?

[upper sun]

nah i got flak OR maniac a lot on illisi

for ds4 i get NOTHING useful

[marble crater]

Ah you meant for dueling swords

[rigid sky]

ok, laspistol is fun

suppression immune actually feels really good

[upper sun]

Aaaand finally done with shield penance

the secret was not playing sniper vet purges like i thought but playing malice high inten

and just putting shield and going afk

[paper lily]

u can probably see when a map is gonna be good or bad for it from the first few enemy packs

i'd look for reapers

[upper sun]

ye

[rigid sky]

also 38/40 kills during scrier's :(

I guess it's easier to get that with the shit version of scrier's but fuck that

[upper sun]

first two reapers in torrent assassination

[upper sun]

weakspot kills?

thats how i got it

[rigid sky]

Assail spam mixed with DS4 lights

Just trying to get it through organic play

[upper sun]

bruh

nah force it

last section of oblivium relay station is perfect for it

just run up the bridge bodyblock your teammates then clear the waves

if you can stretch out the duration enough its super easy

[rigid sky]

I got 38/40 in two games of trying to do it naturally

It'll happen

[marble crater]

Mag dump into a poxwalker horde

[rigid sky]

If I wanted to force it I'd just take Illisi

[near drift]

I got mine just going slash happy with DS4 in a thick horde, illisi with transfer peril would probably be easier

[upper sun]

you mean exorcist

and no its not the same for melee

[near drift]

Yeah exorcist

[upper sun]

its repeated weakspot hits unlike the ranged blessing

going executor slaughter and having peril quell on weakspot kills is kinda better

[analog solstice]

Can smite crit for extra damage?

[marble crater]

No

[analog solstice]

mkay

[strong gulch]

I will never learn them all. Have the time I have no idea what the mission is until halfway through.

[supple dock]

okay so properly surge blitz cancelling is fucking hard

Thank you for the demonstration!

[strong gulch]

I can't do the surge cancel. That's in part because my wield blitz is mouse wheel scroll down; but also my brain just breaks with switching.

A lot of a mission is me screaming "SWITCH". 😩

[supple dock]

My blitz is q

[strong gulch]

Seems like a hinged choice.

[supple dock]

Right?

[late sapphire]

Blitz stays on g unless i'm playing knife zealot, then it goes on mouse 4

I have no idea how you fuckers can use scroll up/down for anything

[strong gulch]

I try to map my keys as close as I can across games. I do not adapt well.

Q was my switch button is VT2 and valheim. So it's taken. E continues to be ping.

at least I didn't choose the up arrow or something.

[marble crater]

Blitz is on D-Pad down

[strong gulch]

Right enter key is looking alright now tho.

Another hinged choice.

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

I also bound it to one of the extra buttons from my controller though, in preparation of using throwing knives on zealot

[strong gulch]

I just just mouse scroll down and hope.

[marble crater]

Hope is also part of my plan

All those loner, backstab, knife penances sound painful

[upper sun]

🤔 im pretty sure throwing a knife in stealth at 15 momtum stacks counts for like 3 penances at the same time

[marble crater]

That would be great

Maybe even 4, if you throw it at a gunner, from behind

[upper sun]

also knives can cleave 1 target

[marble crater]

The team will appreciate my efficiency with the penances

[paper lily]

knives can cleave infinite targets with man stopper

[upper sun]

😨

bruh why does zealot get blessings for blitz but we dont

[marble crater]

Right, I never thought about which ranged weapon to use with knife

Bolter?

[paper lily]

zealot is in a weird place ranged weapon wise

[late sapphire]

momentum & shredder autopistol

Needs rend on knife though

[paper lily]

are u talking about psyker with knife or zealot actually

[late sapphire]

Bolter on psyker?

Good luck lmao

[paper lily]

i confused myself clicking between class channels

[plucky flax]

Knife flamer

[paper lily]

i used to use bolter to open up bulwarks

but now i just use perfect strike and just swing into them forever

i use evis so flamer is kinda redundant

[marble crater]

thanks

[tawny pebble]

How integral is First Target on a combat blade?

[late sapphire]

I also really like zarona and columnus 5 with knife - zarona doesn't benefit from the momentum firing speed but it's great on its own

Both columnus & shredder absolutely FUCK with the 15% firing speed & 15% bonus damage if you have enough rending to ignore armor

[cinder moon]

evis+flamer combo on zealot is ultra chad

[marble crater]

I do like the zarona on all my other zealot builds, to quickly get rid of specials or gunners, and I already have the columnus, so maybe I use that to spare my sanity and only roll one new weapon

[upper sun]

bruh whats all this shit

ogryn stuff is even worse than zealot

[mighty olive]

Yikes that's pretty gross

[supple dock]

all hail the decent dagger

[tawny pebble]

we stan dagger

[stable silo]

i got two staffs here for melkor bucks what say u people on the discord worth or nah?

[fresh reef]

:/

[strong gulch]

[late sapphire]

trapper tracker mod and you still got netted... shameful...

[cinder moon]

frag bomb, heavy hitter, and loyal protector are the worst ogryn penances, the others are fine

i got the rock penance in like 2 games

[marble crater]

Maybe the voidstrike, if you just want to test it and have enough Melk bucks, otherwise no, not worth

[fresh reef]

it was completely silent bruh

[spice veldt]

should've intuited their position through the morphogenic field

[cinder moon]

think fast, chucklenuts

[upper sun]

theyre not the best tbh you can very easily roll something better

[late sapphire]

you should be constantly spinning like a tf2 aimbot sniper

[fresh reef]

right no, definite skill issue

[late sapphire]

Trappers spawning with the netgun lodged squarely up your buttcrack is an intended gameplay mechanic

[fresh reef]

I don't wanna reinstall spidey sense because it's sensory overload simulator, but holy shit that audio is making me consider it

[late sapphire]

They're supposed to curb your enthusiasm

[late sapphire]

You can set it to trapper only

[fresh reef]

true

idk, still feel like it adds a bit too much visual noise

[supple dock]

ITS SO DIFFICULT

AAAA

[upper sun]

what is

[supple dock]

Surge cancelling

[upper sun]

yerr

[supple dock]

I have the rhythm and hand movements down

But it still requires active thinking and that fucks with me

[upper sun]

im so zoinked in when i use surge switching staves causes me to blow up

[supple dock]

And unfortunately I'm one of those people who has to use the most efficient tech because I know I can do it better

So I have to do this

[upper sun]

ocd moment 😭

i feel you

i cant even play the game until i finish my weeklies

[plucky flax]

Just play better smh.

But I am too lazy to do surge cancelling.

Surge blitz cancel.

Surge is just a nice chill staff why sweat.

[supple dock]

Because it's within my ability to do

so i must

[marble crater]

[supple dock]

skill expression is one of the most fun things to me in games

[plucky flax]

Me using the most meta op and easiest to play weapons.

P sword p gun shout.

[late sapphire]

Given the damage you can do without surge canceling, playing with canceling is basically bullying your teammates

[supple dock]

yeah but I'm not good at it yet

so I'm just wandering off trying to do it properly and die \

[jovial juniper]

Understandable

[plucky flax]

Do both quell cancel and blitz cancel.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1231660725143994519/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_5.mp4?ex=66327e70&is=66312cf0&hm=e5ca6014c6cfd7801470062790a140b8fa87e27fbb6a17792005e6e14ef634bb&

[supple dock]

I do 😄

I saw a psyker using the quell cancel and I was like huh? Then I tried quelling and it cut the animation so I was like ooooh

[marble crater]

Blitz cancel is 3 buttons on console, think I will pass

[austere tide]

does anyone know the bis perks and blessings for the illisi mk v?

assuming flak/maniac for perks, but i have no clue what blessings are good on psyker

[plucky flax]

Flak maniac slaughter + your choice 2nd blessing.

[marble crater]

I use flak, maniac, slaughter and uncanny

Deflector as second with slaughter works too, or shred

[austere tide]

gotcha, thanks

[plucky flax]

2nd blessing can be deflector/uncanny/shred/unstable power. Bloodthirsty too I guess but I don't like it as much.

[austere tide]

is bloodthirsty special attack chaining worth it at all?

[plucky flax]

Shred does sort of the same thing but it gives crit chance to any attack.

Illisi light spam is very strong also. And crit gives increased cleave.

[austere tide]

is the special attack activation considered part of the chain for shred?

[plucky flax]

Yeah you can mix it if you want. Both special light and special heavy are good.

Special light is much faster but has about 5 cleave(?). Special heavy has a lot more cleave but quite slow.

You can easily kill 3+ chaffs with special light.

[austere tide]

thanks, going to try it out

[plucky flax]

Also with slaughterer at 5 stack you have 40% extra power, which also translate to more cleave.

So I rarely use special heavy when playing illisi. Only as an opener against horde or when a mutie drive by.

[ornate hamlet]

Hi. I have a question, can i do a monstrum penance on weak monstrosity affix, or its have to be a regular one?

[late sapphire]

please aim at heads with your light attack spam

[plucky flax]

No I'm not that good.

[little sapphire]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[marble crater]

It should work on the weakened ones as well

[tawny pebble]

Deimos is a pretty good all-rounder. It's better than Dueling Swords for crowd clear, just not as good as Illisi.

[marble crater]

Purgatus and Trauma with Deimos/Ds4, Surge with illisi, Voidstrike I don't use

[ornate hamlet]

ok thanks

[late sapphire]

Purgatus and Trauma with DS4, Surge with DS4, Voidstrike also with DS4

Think about it

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Your melee should cover your staff's weakness. But also don't forget blitz.

Trauma and void have worse monster damage I'd say, but you can have ds4 or bb to cover it.

[tawny pebble]

I use Purgatus/Deimos, Surge/Illisi, Trauma/Dagger Mk VI or DS4

also don't use Voidstrike

[late sapphire]

I scrapped all of my non-ds4 psyker melees

[supple dock]

It is also 3 buttons on kbm

[tawny pebble]

Nothing quite beats putting a traitor ogryn on his ass

[late sapphire]

Instakilling it

[marble crater]

How so? Can't you switch to ranged weapon directly?

[supple dock]

yes, BUT.

RMB > LMB > Blitz > 1

[tawny pebble]

nonsense, temporarily horizontal ogryn funnier than permanently horizontal

[marble crater]

Okay, so it's 4 buttons on controller then

[supple dock]

[late sapphire]

i think i should set up a macro to spam quick canceled surge

[marble crater]

Need to switch from Blitz to melee and then to ranged

[flint pawn]

give psyker a monstrosity killer staff

[late sapphire]

What, you mean like all of them?

[supple dock]

I was gonna say, all of them wreck bosses lmao

[late sapphire]

They don't have the greatest burst damage but consistency is king

While the vet is missing all of his pgun shots i'm pouring lightning into the dh

or fire or balls or explosions

[tawny pebble]

Soulfire goes brrrr

[supple dock]

Like it's hard to visibly see because your attacks don't fat chunk them

But if you check the boss damage it'll be in like second place

sometimes first if your team is full of numptys

[flint pawn]

I meant like one that's actually good at the role, the Purgatus is decent and consistent, the Trauma and Surge are awful for it, and the Voidstrike's good if you can get weak spot hits (this one's just what I've heard)

[late sapphire]

Surge is actually pretty ok

[supple dock]

surge is fine vs bosses

[late sapphire]

Trauma is kind of bad though yeah

[tawny pebble]

L1 spam at weakspot?

[supple dock]

Nah, just lightning

[flint pawn]

Is it? It always felt really, really pathetic

[supple dock]

It is not!

It deals good damage

[late sapphire]

Feels shit and then you tab and see you just did 60%

[tawny pebble]

The crits can take off a decent chunk of the bar

[supple dock]

^

[late sapphire]

Takes off ~1.5k chunks

[supple dock]

And if you can get a blue stim to go with it?

so good

[tawny pebble]

hilarious fast lightning

[late sapphire]

If it's a pogryn i brutalize it with my pokey though

[flint pawn]

Huh. I never noticed. Still though, decent, but none of the staffs really excel at it, and I think it'd be cool to have a staff that was especially notable at it

[prime elk]

Yes please buff trauma

[late sapphire]

Trauma is bad staff for boring psykers

[supple dock]

[late sapphire]

In actual fact i think trauma psykers are closer to blunts than to real psykers

[tawny pebble]

I think Voidstrike could be considered the "boss specialist" in the sense that it's the only one capable of staggering them

[plucky flax]

Yes please

[tawny pebble]

but not in terms of damage

[flint pawn]

This is fair, actually, I forgot it can do that

[tawny pebble]

Purgatus melting with a properly blessed melee weapon is the way to go

[late sapphire]

No they should remove it :)

[tawny pebble]

if you really hate monstrosities

[prime elk]

Heretical

[ornate hamlet]

purge with flame and prejudice

[tawny pebble]

However, purg builds are also braindead like trauma to an extent

[flint pawn]

I try to keep something on every build that can at least slowly but reliably take bosses down when I have the time to actually focus on attacking them

[tawny pebble]

which isn't to say I don't like it

[flint pawn]

Usually it's brain rupture

[ornate hamlet]

go the extra level of crack head and run it with skriers

[tawny pebble]

but it's much easier play than, say, Surge

[tawny pebble]

I've been seeing this a lot lately

which is to say, 3 times in the past 2 days

[ornate hamlet]

ive been doing it alot, it the result of boring staves

[flint pawn]

I know the Laspistol is fantastic boss damage but I don't have it in me to drop using a staff entirely

[tawny pebble]

Scrier's is the only way I can gunker properly

it feels weird otherwise

[late sapphire]

that's the way it's supposed to be

[tawny pebble]

I'm trying to think what other niches that new staves could even fill

[ornate hamlet]

a lazer

[tawny pebble]

ah yes

[flint pawn]

Wasn't there a "shield" staff datamined or something?

[ornate hamlet]

that applies blaze

[tawny pebble]

i forgot the sienna classic

[flint pawn]

A long while ago

[ornate hamlet]

back in the dark ages of fuegonasus

[flint pawn]

Doesn't she have a staff that has a shotgun sort of autoattack? I think that could be a potential niche to add to a staff on this game

[late sapphire]

They should add coruscation staff to darktide

I miss being able to just shit out 20 flames & lean back & relax

[ornate hamlet]

also i believe that was the one with the shotgun attack

[tawny pebble]

it is, ye

[late sapphire]

yes

Not that i ever used it

[plucky flax]

Indeed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1230409556216254494/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_18.mp4?ex=66328e72&is=66313cf2&hm=dbd90c45c2119f3f94154de3eb4d917c9fd5ee187a8a33b2a3969d52807e1f9b&

[flint pawn]

There was the one that just shotgunned on autoattack and then the lazer staff that had a sort of blast on the right click?

[flint pawn]

Oh yeah. I use it like half the time or more on my Veteran lol

I love it a lot

[late sapphire]

no

[flint pawn]

I don't think blast was the right word for the lazer staff but idk what to call it

[late sapphire]

fireball is fireballs, flamestorm is flamer, bolt has fast lights and a big heavy bolt, beam shoots a beam on lights and on heavy you blast the beam or shotgun, conflagration is just trauma staff, coruscation is shotty/fire vortexes, soul stealer is emo stuff (basically BB)

i guess beam is what you mean

[flint pawn]

yeah, sorry

I haven't played Vermintide 2 in quite a while

I'd like a bolt staff equivalent on this game, it was my favorite staff on Vermin

[plucky flax]

Same.

Void sucks compared to bolt.

I played bolt the most in vt2 and play void the least in dt.

[late sapphire]

I miss the chaos wastes...

[ornate hamlet]

replace void with bolt staff

[flint pawn]

They did say new weapons... 👀 and so the hopium consumes me once more

[plucky flax]

I think it's the slower projectile and the lower damage. Pin point fast full charge bolts were murdering elites and specials left and right for me.

Void is slow and clunky.

[ornate hamlet]

i dont see the plasma or the voidstrike being removed im not on hopium

[tawny pebble]

I can see them adding staves, but not removing or replacing

[ornate hamlet]

never

but one could dream

[flint pawn]

Void is fun, I always liked bowling, but it's a different fantasy to the single target staff I desire

[tawny pebble]

okay, that is a funny visual

[late sapphire]

I miss my javelin as well...

[tawny pebble]

never heard of it being called bowling

[flint pawn]

It is! I love intentionally setting myself up behind the team and going bowling down a hallway into an entire horde

[mental grail]

Bro posts like these make me understand how the Imperium functions

copium is a powerful drug

[flint pawn]

It never truly fades

[tawny pebble]

[mental grail]

funny, I use void the most, it's the least bullshit of all the staves

simply point n click wii bowling

[flint pawn]

Alright I'm biting a bullet, I need psyker advice for something

[tawny pebble]

I suppose yeah, it's very straightforward

...literally

[ornate hamlet]

yes you are crazy, just happens when your a psyker

[mental grail]

no the voices don't go away, just ignore them

[plucky flax]

Yo this guy in my team has a sick illisi. Better than mine

[late sapphire]

deflector...

[ornate hamlet]

huh if hes also running bubble stone him

[mental grail]

bro must be in hadrons dms to roll a weapon that cracked

[tawny pebble]

lmao

[flint pawn]

One of the builds I use is a Smite build, the problem is I need something that can handle Beasts of Nurgle. I use a bleeding Knife as consistent damage and a tanking weapon against Chaos Spawn and Plague Ogryn and it works fantastic, but obviously knifing a Beast of Nurgle isn't always...... ideal. So I come to you all for aid. Auric Maelstrom btw

[mental grail]

what's wrong with deflector?

[tawny pebble]

Technically it's wasted damage on the table

[late sapphire]

crutch blessing

[tawny pebble]

and yeah that

[mental grail]

well, I'm dogshit, so what?

[late sapphire]

just slide idk

[mental grail]

[late sapphire]

He can swap it though so it's still a godroll

[ornate hamlet]

slide, dodge and evade and one of your abilities is a deflector that help the whole team

its out done

[tawny pebble]

I like facetanking gunners from time to time on heresy, it's just funni

[ornate hamlet]

by base gameplay

[late sapphire]

Back in my day you only needed deflector on your sword to become near immortal

[mental grail]

I need crutches

[late sapphire]

Nowadays it's a talent ( 🤮 )

[tawny pebble]

In terms of a ranged weapon I'm supposing you're asking?

[plucky flax]

I also use deflector on mine. 🙂

[flint pawn]

Preferably

[tawny pebble]

What perks do you have on the knife?

Any +unyielding%?

[flint pawn]

One sec I'll get a picture of the one I use

[prime elk]

I like having infinite block while my teammates die around me

[mental grail]

based

[ornate hamlet]

who needs teammates

[mental grail]

fr

[flint pawn]

I don't have Flesh Tearer IV yet

[late sapphire]

You get that from the peril block talent

[ornate hamlet]

they die things stop spawning for awhile, i see it as an absolute win

[tawny pebble]

yes, kinetic deflection good

[mental grail]

fuck coherency and basic teamplay, these penances aren't gonna complete themselves

[prime elk]

That won’t stop ranged attacks on its own

[tawny pebble]

purgatus is definitely an option here, bleed + soulblaze would be hilarious to melt that healthbar

[late sapphire]

Why are you being shot at

What are you doing and why is it not 'killing everything in sight'

[ornate hamlet]

ding ding ding this is why the only good deflector builds must use vent

[tawny pebble]

alternatively

high mobility and dodge distance means you can get out of the way of evil vomit

and easily maintain high stacks

[late sapphire]

I have never been in a situation where i thought 'damn i wish i had deflector'

[flint pawn]

Is there any other weapon that would work in the context of a Smite build? Purgatus + Smite seems a bit.. redundant, though if it's just that good enough at handling bosses I don't mind it

[ornate hamlet]

i have, also what went in my mind is i really screwed up to be here

[flint pawn]

If it helps I could send the entire build I'm using at the moment?

[tawny pebble]

Assuming you want to use a staff, I feel like Void would be your answer here, if only for the stagger and the ability to hit weakpoints with the charged attack

knife can let you strafe the beast with less trouble at least

[prime elk]

Because I’m cosplaying as a Jedi

[vernal temple]

How on earth does one even do this shit? Those stacks degrade so quick

[flint pawn]

I think I can learn to use the Voidstrike then

[ornate hamlet]

smite and purgatus step on each others toes... id say dont run them together but you do you, stuff gets boring and making it harder is fun at times

[late sapphire]

10s + 3 stacks on weakspot kill

[plucky flax]

My illisi slightly worse than his.

A tad lower damage.

[flint pawn]

Knife is great against Chaos Spawn and Plague Ogryn but trying to knife a Beast of Nurgle gets hairy very quickly

[tawny pebble]

I also missed it was a smite build, so I'd agree purg isn't the thing to round it out

[flint pawn]

I think I have a good Voidstrike for the job though

[vernal temple]

so probably the best way to do this is with weapons, not staff

[ornate hamlet]

a buble build vs a beast has got to be one of the funniest interaction ive seen

[late sapphire]

voidstrike is good for the penance

[prime elk]

It’s not too bad, you can weave in and out very quickly

[late sapphire]

i ran sg/dd columnus/ds gunker

[tawny pebble]

I do like invalidating the boss's main mechanic

is funni

[late sapphire]

Grab some extra penances on the way

[ornate hamlet]

its dumb

[tawny pebble]

Oh, yeah, it just kinda stands there and dies

[late sapphire]

One weakspot kill every 30s

[tawny pebble]

it's not a "fun" or challenging experience at all

it's just absurd

[plucky flax]

I have many times.

[late sapphire]

That's a you issue

[plucky flax]

I'm not as good as you.

[late sapphire]

😢

Just kidding when i'm cornered i usually think FUCK FUCK FUCKFU CK

[flint pawn]

Knife, Voidstrike, Smite and Venting Shriek. I can definitely work with this. Thank you!

[tawny pebble]

just like me

[late sapphire]

Not anything about sword blessings

[plucky flax]

I'm still in sedition after all.

Pls buff blaze trauma.

[prime elk]

You don’t get it bro. True pros NEVER get shot at

[tawny pebble]

Haha, all I did was go by process of elimination.

Purg does crowd control so is redundant with Smite, Trauma is just bad at bosses in general.

[late sapphire]

If you're blocking you're not pissing lightning

Think about it

[tawny pebble]

Smite staff can work and benefits from Lightning Storm

but is more about consistent crits than weakspot hits, and doesn't have the boss stagger potential that Void has with the Surge blessing

[prime elk]

If you’re dead you’re not pissing lightning either

[ornate hamlet]

your already dead

[flint pawn]

I honestly should've been figuring this out on my own I feel like, I frequent Auric Damnation and Auric Maelstroms and here I am only now, asking about boss damage ranged weapons

[late sapphire]

This is a conundrum

I guess i should piss more lightning

[tawny pebble]

Here I am in regular Damnation and giving advice to someone doing harder difficulties than me, haha.

It's weird both ways.

[flint pawn]

I've used the Voidstrike like 4 times despite having a pretty godly one just gathering dust 😭

[plucky flax]

Surge is pretty good tbh. 186k monster damage with surge Xd

[tawny pebble]

You're making me wonder if I should try Void again, myself.

I just don't know what I'd do with it.

...I guess I've never made a Disrupt Destiny build, but.

[ornate hamlet]

spam it, slobber on mouse and aim slightly above their heads

[late sapphire]

Must have been a long sedition match...

[plucky flax]

Yes sedition is really hard.

[flint pawn]

Whatever you do with it, it's positioning dependent, so I'd recommend learning optimal choke points on maps

[tawny pebble]

Haha, the aim isn't so hard. Just the complementary kit.

[plucky flax]

You wouldn't get it.

[ornate hamlet]

sedition is just built different apperently

[marble crater]

I think "yes, keep hitting me, build my peril for a shriek" then I shriek and only then do I panic

[flint pawn]

As I mentioned before, I'll be using it with Smite now

[tawny pebble]

I've got some sense for it from Purgatus play, so it's more of training myself to rush ahead and start bowling from afar using the staff's range

[prime elk]

Surge against bulwarks feels bad now 😭

[tawny pebble]

The staff or the blessing?

[plucky flax]

Tru they buff the hp so much.

[tawny pebble]

Oh.

Yeah, staff.

[ornate hamlet]

you can alway devolve into a worse zealot when no other options are avalible, chaarrrrrgeee

[prime elk]

Yah takes quite a few hits now lol

Definitely an indirect nerf

[marble crater]

Or I can explode and pretend it's from fighting too much to kill everything

[ornate hamlet]

sure by "accident"

[flint pawn]

Well, on paper.. Brain Rupture seems best to pair with it for damage, Smite for more reliable crowd damage and would leave it more useful for priority target picking, Assail seems useless to pair with it

Both shields are good, Venting Shriek I pretty much only use for Smite but it could still be good, and I haven't used Scrier's Gaze before

[tawny pebble]

tactical self brain burst AoE attack

[late sapphire]

Why would you pair bb with voidstrike

They do the same thing

[marble crater]

"Sorry new staff , I'm not used to the new warp resistance and quell speed yet"

[ornate hamlet]

assail a gun and a decent sword is all you need for skriers

thats the easiest (gets old quick)

[mighty olive]

I try explaining that to peoples but they do what they wanna do xD

[tawny pebble]

It's been ages since I've used Voidstrike

so I couldn't say how peril hungry it is, as to whether it's Scrier's compatible

[ornate hamlet]

i think you get 2 or 3 shots off before you have to quell if you start at 0 (with skriers)

[flint pawn]

This is just what I'm thinking at a glance, obviously I don't expect my words to be taken without a grain of salt or four

[upper galleon]

i only use vent cause i'd blow myself up otherwise

sorry crit aura

[flint pawn]

I've used the staff four or five times in total, I'm definitely not a master of it, but the few times I have used it, Brain Rupture was more ideal in some spots than it was

[plucky flax]

I like assail and void.

[prime elk]

Assail just works with anything tbh

[mighty olive]

Same, hell of a power build 💪

[flint pawn]

Does it work well? It doesn't seem like it would but obviously I haven't tried it yet

[ornate hamlet]

assail is the psykers best middle finger to shooters and gunners

[plucky flax]

Tru but for my surge build smite has way better access to psykinetic's aura and wildfire.

For the juicy f spam.

[marble crater]

Bubble and Assail against gunners

[plucky flax]

Also both surge and assail excel at taking out shooters so.

[plucky flax]

You can play both ep assail or dd with assail voidstrike.

[ornate hamlet]

its like purg and smite yet not nearly as bad. assail and void kinda do the same things but assail is quicker at it and void does more. so not as bad so a decent load out

[upper galleon]

purge smite gives you no long range tool tho

i'd just go purge BB or smite+ a staff that can fire bolts

[ornate hamlet]

like i said not as bad but similar situation

[flint pawn]

So Assail presumably for priority targets when haste is needed, and when you have the time to spare Voidstrike would be better, is what I'm interpreting this as

[mighty olive]

It's amazing, void crit with surge and ...is it nexus that gives crit on high peril? I never remember between nexus and flurry, anyway pair those two blessings with crit and whatever else ya like on it, it plows through armor very well, I use dueling sword, assail, venting shriek, it's amazing and hell of an "kill all" build

[plucky flax]

Assail for smol spread out shooters and help with horde clear. Void for bigger targets.

I use assail way more than void tbh..

[flint pawn]

Gotcha, I'll have to try it then

[plucky flax]

Spam all assail, then switch to void while waiting for assail to regen, then go back to assail.

That's how I play anyway.

[ornate hamlet]

assail is QOl as a blitz

[tawny pebble]

Is....is Disrupt Destiny good?

[mighty olive]

I do too, void when ya got armor mixed hordes is so goods

[ornate hamlet]

gunner be gone

[ornate hamlet]

yes

[mighty olive]

I've only used it with gunner builds, and hell yes it is

[tawny pebble]

Alright, welp. Voidstrike DD here we go

[ornate hamlet]

i use it almost exclusivly now because its a free 10% dmg to staves and what not but your swords and staves that can crit or headshot get decent dmg from it

disrupt destiny my beloved, that and anticipation

[pallid spindle]

voidstrike DD is good, the high cleave means you can hit targets that are behind other targets pretty easily

[tawny pebble]

That is true!

Should I aim for Perfectionism? Is Lingering Influence a crutch?

[mental grail]

Can confirm

Deleted a monstrosity in like 5 seconds

Easiest penance

[upper sun]

raking fire gaze on a BoN and youll scare yourself

[strong gulch]

It's cumulative at the very least.

[flint pawn]

Should I change anything about this purgatus build

[plucky flax]

Take perfect timing, both cdr auras.

[upper sun]

I would take off a toughness node for perfect timing and try to work in pc

[plucky flax]

Combustion too aye.

[flint pawn]

my god I forgot Perfect Timing existed.

[plucky flax]

I'd remove the 4 points on the bottom left.

[marble crater]

[tawny pebble]

Solidity can be useful but with Battle Meditation on a Purg build you won't even miss it against dense hordes.

[plucky flax]

3 spare points for you

[upper sun]

this is what i use for purge its uhh unique i know

[plucky flax]

My personal purga is creeping flames and warp charges.

Wait wtf the single value point in warp charge.

[upper sun]

break free from WS addiction

[plucky flax]

It is certainly unique.

[upper sun]

idk maybe i should just be normal and go creeping flames

and normal warp siphon

but nah

[flint pawn]

This is what I'm at now, 2 points to spare. Perilous Combustion seems like a decent choice? And then uhh.. Kinetic Flayer?

[tawny pebble]

Kinetic Flayer procs out of your control, sadly.

[flint pawn]

I am all too familiar with that

Still though, it has clutched up sometimes

[tawny pebble]

Oh, absolutely. I've run it on Purg before.

[plucky flax]

Nothing else is good to take so might as well.

[tawny pebble]

And it asbolutely has obliterated a random mauler or something that mixed himself in with the chaff.

[upper sun]

pc and peril gen node?

[mental grail]

Bro I need this set to come back

[plucky flax]

-5%?

That's so smol you won't even feel it.

[flint pawn]

This build is a little more fragile than I'm used to, guess it'll be a learning curve for me

[upper sun]

idk everything good is taken

[plucky flax]

Do the meme everything up top taken.

All the toughness regen.

Only sedition gamers can utilise this build.

[strong gulch]

what a basket

what a web

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[plucky flax]

Is this the build? EP bb bubble purga.

[upper sun]

see

[plucky flax]

(Might actually play this it's so memey and funny)

[tawny pebble]

it's beautiful

[upper sun]

if i know im not gonna use BB

why shouldnt i just go keystoneless

im telling ya its the next big thing

[plucky flax]

Ah yes the 200 toughness build.

[tawny pebble]

he cannot be killed

[plucky flax]

Tbh ep bb + fast bb after ability make it go kinda fast.

It's like 1s charge time.

[tawny pebble]

this is true

[strong gulch]

I'm gonna do blaze trauma with EP because it's actually a BB build.

[plucky flax]

You heard of only smiter now you will see only bber.

[tawny pebble]

heads will pop

[plucky flax]

(Don't ask me to horde clear with bb)

[strong gulch]

BB the horde like that one psyker who got eaten by that same horde.

[mental grail]

(horde clear with bb please.)

[upper sun]

BB+upgrade + EP and blue stim is a sight to behold

i just did the private penance shit was too easy

[plucky flax]

I am going to use deflector kd and bubble at the same time so I can totally block all shooters.

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[flint pawn]

Build changes feel great, thanks all

[strong gulch]

Holy fecking lag. The game is unplayable wtf.

I can't handle the stuttering that I just loaded into. feck

[supple dock]

Do a sedition run because the shader cache is fucked

[marble crater]

Apparently it has something to do with shaders needing to load again, so once that's done everything is fine

[supple dock]

Once it downloads it will probably be fine

[marble crater]

Or not, who knows

[flint pawn]

Does Unyielding damage affect Maulers

[upper sun]

no

[supple dock]

Negative

[flint pawn]

gotcha

[upper sun]

unyielding is bosses reapers and bulwarks

[plucky flax]

They can't touch this

[marble crater]

And me

[flint pawn]

Crushers too, right?

[upper sun]

no

[marble crater]

They are cara