psyker-class

[marble crater]

Later you want a specific gun psyker build though

[thick tiger]

So staves become the better choice after level 30? I would love to use guns in combination with Telekine shield, if that's not possible I can try staves as well, it would be boring to have another Veteran like character after playing veteran for long

[supple dock]

Not "better choice"

[marble crater]

Staves and gun psyker are both really strong, just different builds

[supple dock]

But relatively as powerful

[marble crater]

Just that staves are awful with low stats, more so than guns

[cold ivy]

while levelling i would just abuse assail (take all the nodes that boost it)

it's OP against everything except carapace

[thick tiger]

Good to know, is there a definite ranking for Force Swords, or do they all excel on their own goal?

[supple dock]

deimos or illisi, obscurus is the "inbetween" sword but does both things terribly

deimos for single target, illisi for hordes

[thick tiger]

Thanks, I was about to buy an obscurus, doesn't cost much relatively but still

[lethal lagoon]

Petition to give Obscrurus innate Deflector +1

[marble crater]

Still won't use it

[lethal lagoon]

Infinite dodges too

[marble crater]

Nope

[lethal lagoon]

Longer dodge slide than the mk5

[marble crater]

No, make it a DS with illisi horde clear and I will use it

[cold ivy]

make the activated attack instantly kill all poxwalkers within 20m

[lethal lagoon]

Flaming shriek already does that

[thick tiger]

Does the illisi hold up against the occasional single target, like maybe a Crusher?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, you can special heavy spam a crusher head and it'll die in like... 5-6 hits

Maybe 4-5 I don't remember

[marble crater]

But you can push attack it on its ass

[upper sun]

still wont use it

[supple dock]

Can work. But Illisi is best suited to special attack medium threats

[cold ivy]

generally speaking you want your melee to cover a gap in your capabilities

if you're running something like surge (or voidstrike?) which suffer a bit on horde clear, illisi is not bad

[upper sun]

man killing maniacs in melee now is crazy fun after they made them

[cold ivy]

for trauma/purgatus which are good at hordes you can run deimos/duelling sword

[lethal lagoon]

Surge doesn't really matter, cause you are going to spaming Surge and Flaming Shriek

[cold ivy]

fair

[upper sun]

i got dogged on on the forums for saying that hit track on ranger combo is bad BUT LOOK AT US NOW

[feral verge]

for shits and giggles, an illisi with uncanny + executor + carapace damage will make reasonable short work of crushers

[rigid sky]

I take Illisi only if my staff can handle Crushers

[feral verge]

just special light spam the head

takes 3 or 4 hits iirc

[upper sun]

sir thats shred not executor

[feral verge]

i know

well aware

just posting it as an example

[upper sun]

🤔

[lethal lagoon]

Sir I doubt your well tracking abilties.

[rigid sky]

Generally either your ranged can handles Crushers or it's specialised for hordes, or it's a CIAG.

[marble crater]

or it's blaze trauma and needs a buff

[lethal lagoon]

Buff plz

[dim parrot]

[thick tiger]

Is Illisi - Zarona Revolver - Assail, a decent holdover build? Or instead of Illisi should I pick Deimos? Or just not use Zarona, damn

[feral verge]

for that build, i would bring illisi

[lethal lagoon]

Old revolver is solid

[feral verge]

because revolver is competing with deimos for deleting elites/specials

[thick tiger]

Thank you, I'm going to see how well the revolver does against crushers

[supple dock]

Single Target + Hordeclear + Utility

[feral verge]

it eradicates crushers when built right

[supple dock]

Is generally how you want your weapon and blitz choices to go

[lethal lagoon]

I assume you have handcannon and a crit blessing on it?

[marble crater]

They are still leveling

[feral verge]

something like this

[lethal lagoon]

Ah

[thick tiger]

I have Surgical 3 and Headcannon 1 for it, but not on it yet, I can bless it only if it comes with a blessing spot though

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

I wouldn't worry about gear at all, just spam assail

[lethal lagoon]

Assail'N'Battery

Assker

AssailingAway

[rigid sky]

I mean maybe do make the revolver orange anyway

[supple dock]

We're saying go assail instead of using the other weapons because your entire playstyle changes with each setup, and they all require all talent points in their builds to function

[rigid sky]

Consecration is much cheaper at low levels

And having the right blessings on a revolver are necessary for its anticrusher power

[marble crater]

Is it? I thought the cost is fixed

[rigid sky]

You'll maybe miss out on one single upgrade tier at max level

[rigid sky]

It scales down a lot

[thick tiger]

Okay then

[rigid sky]

But not as much as mission rewards do

So I wouldn't make a habit of consecrating levelling g gear

[thick tiger]

It does scale down yeah

[rigid sky]

But I probably would consecrate a single Zarona for now and hold it until level 30

[marble crater]

I will keep that in mind for when they release the 5th class and we level that

[rigid sky]

Hand cannon and surgical are Just That Good.

[paper lily]

if you are levelling and consecrate a weapon with great blessings you might already have on another class it's worth to just rebless a level 4 blessing

[feral verge]

once you turn level 30, i recommend swapping off assail, if you want to prepare for higher difficulties. i say this not because assail is bad (it's great). i say it because i see many many new assail spamming psykers who fold in a higher pressure situation, becasue they havent learned how to properly dodge/melee. they just relied on assail to carry them and when assail fails, they fail.

[paper lily]

for instance warp flurry with trauma staff

[rigid sky]

Yeah, brain rupture builds are the best learning tool

Brain rupture without Venting shriek

[cold ivy]

assail's only downside is you can't path to psykinetic's aura imo

[rigid sky]

Take all of your training wheels off at once

[marble crater]

with trauma staff

[supple dock]

If you can learn to melee on psyker you can melee on any class lmao

It's because a single, SINGULAR mistake, and you're dead or nearly dead

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike with 25 stack DD lmao

[rigid sky]

2 bruiser swings sends you to the medicae

3 bruiser swings send you to the floor

[marble crater]

Played my zealot again yesterday after a week of not, it's fun to face tank everything without really having to dodge, because you just spam crits and charge

[upper sun]

hell yeah

huh was that a bucket head

no it was a crusher overhead

[supple dock]

lmao

bucketheads and jackets are my fucking bane

[upper sun]

bruh fucking stealth maulers

[supple dock]

STEALTH MAULERS

You're in combat, got a nice rhythm going, annnnd you're on the floor

[upper sun]

i swear game spawns them behind me only when i play psyker

[rigid sky]

BTW are maulers swinging faster atm or is it just an uptick in my depression suppressing my reaction times?

[marble crater]

Second one

[feral verge]

2k hours in

[rigid sky]

Because I am getting wrecked recently

[upper sun]

second

[feral verge]

just got ogryn to 30

feels gross

[rigid sky]

Since my FFXIV static disbanded lol

[upper sun]

take off the frames off ogryn he hasnt earned them yet 😭

[marble crater]

Ogryn feels awesome, just bully everything, because you are strongest

[upper sun]

i take more damage as ogryn than zealot idk why

[cinder moon]

because you're slow and big

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[upper sun]

i feel like enemies actually do more damage

[rigid sky]

Take more TDR nodes

[supple dock]

ogryns have a hard time without smart engages

[cinder moon]

ogryn movetech basically doesn't exist

[rigid sky]

You should take all of them

[upper sun]

i think i do

[cinder moon]

there's always shield

[spiral storm]

What kind of ogryn build are you using

[upper sun]

i dont even take the rush upgrades for more toughness

[supple dock]

shield's a trap

[cinder moon]

shield with the right build is good

going full loyal protector with shield is not good

[upper sun]

shield is the one ogryn weapon i like

shield with heavy hitter/rock/kickback

[spiral storm]

Shield is good. New players just act like they're supposed to use it ONLY as a shield

[supple dock]

yes, which is why it's a trap

[cinder moon]

i actually dislike seeing loyal protector ogryns with shield because they're completely incapable of covering distance and dealing with ranged targets

[supple dock]

kinda like how assail is a trap

[upper sun]

i hated the shield until i tried one with bromomentum

[spiral storm]

you should specify new player trap

[cinder moon]

bromentum skrusher shield is great

[supple dock]

fair enough

[spiral storm]

trap makes it sound like it's there to just make people fail

[cold ivy]

(that would be power maul)

[spiral storm]

I miss the old zealot mauler

it could literally stunlock the entire game with special m1

22 crushers coming at your team? special, m1

all of them staggered in a large circle

flamers rushing your team down? special m1

range on the stun is big enough to stagger em

[rigid sky]

You still kinda can with special h1

That has a bigger stun radius and thank fuck for autocorrect because I just accidentally spelled that with an n

[feral verge]

old crusher was one of the worst weapons in the game

new one is alot more interesting

[rigid sky]

It was at least very safe

[spiral storm]

it was more of a support wepaon

[rigid sky]

Both for us and for the heretics

[spiral storm]

did it kill fast? eh

[feral verge]

not even an eh

it was a flat no

[spiral storm]

did it prevent the entire team from ever being hit?

yes

[feral verge]

you couldnt even kill gunners with a chastise heavy headshot lol

[spiral storm]

and gunners could never shoot back

[supple dock]

my teams keep on sucking, i'm supporting them and they just can't kill anything, god they're so terrible

That's what I think when I hear "support"

[spiral storm]

yeah but unlike smite (without EP) it didn't have a cooldown

[supple dock]

I'm sure it was great, but holy shit so many shitty players crutch on that word

[spiral storm]

fair

[supple dock]

Recently played with a new player with a bunch of veterans and the new player kept on questioning our decicisons like they weren't in the wrong

[spiral storm]

Do people just leave the moment they go down to get the auric storm survivor?

[feral verge]

best way to support the team in this game is to just outright kill everything

[supple dock]

the pretentiousness killed me

[supple dock]

yes

[feral verge]

atleast in pubs

[spiral storm]

I mean

even in a party you could still do it to avoid death

and just rejoin when bot is up

[rigid sky]

Examples :D

[supple dock]

I cannot, for it was someone from this community

I left after 1 game cause I had stuff to do, the other guys helped the new player get a penance and I didn't see a single thank you in the chat they were in ;;

Blows my mind the level of disrespect and entitlement

[plucky flax]

Best way is to run away.

[gaunt seal]

My son: daddy I can’t sleep there’s a green light shining in my window a lady keeps saying “I’m not wicked I’m not I’m not”

[cosmic sigil]

That's probably someone being selfish in war...

[plucky flax]

Sry I was shy

[cosmic sigil]

AC when are you going south?

[strong gulch]

I really should have stopped upgrading.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

[strong gulch]

Every time

[feral verge]

i am hoarding all plasteel till next update (crafting update)

[cinder moon]

who tf put terrifying barrage into the game

[strong gulch]

smart. me want now tho

[cinder moon]

they are the traitor for whom rannick searches

[strong gulch]

also

I'll stop now. (because I ran out of ordos)

[marble crater]

Don't you have a trauma already anyway?

[strong gulch]

I do but this is for my second psyker. 💀

Also still hunting for a god roll. 😭

[marble crater]

I think that can definitely wait until the update

[strong gulch]

Truly. The smart thing is to wait...

[thorn cedar]

remember when trauma was like, 60% of your perils to fire off a single charge

[spiral storm]

why do you have two psykers?

[strong gulch]

it was bad lol

[strong gulch]

It helped to farm blessings, but that was secondary. I wanted a different color shirt.

[spiral storm]

does it?

wouldn't like

[strong gulch]

This was before all of the free cosmetics and extra loadout slots.

[spiral storm]

playing one psyker make the same amount of progress since you're just making progress on the singular character either way

[feral verge]

it lets you have a second chance at finding a good blessing from melk

[strong gulch]

Double melks and this was before money was consolidated.

[spiral storm]

oh from melk

[strong gulch]

Melk, regular store, and character specific materials.

Less important now.

[ornate hamlet]

Is the crafting update expected to be soon? If so I'm going to pause this RNG hunt of mine

[plucky flax]

Next month

Don't think I'll be able to play much. Limited to 19gb a month.

[marble crater]

We know that it's planned, but I don't think we got a time estimate yet

[supple dock]

Soon. ™️

[mighty fractal]

Haven't seen anyone mention it here, but for anyone who wants to complete Skilled in Psykhana quickly, just run a surge staff

Surge kills still count as Smite kills, so you can get one stack of Psionics going

then just hold onto it for the rest of the mission and zap as many elites and specials as you can

This also works for the Smite penance lol

[spiral storm]

what is the skilled in psykhana penance?

[mighty fractal]

Get 250 elite or special kills with blitzes buffed by Enhanced Psionics

it's annoying and slow normally

[spiral storm]

it is?

[mighty fractal]

but since Surge kills count as Smite kills, and Smite doesn't consume EP

you can get it done in 1-2 missions by just using Surge

[spiral storm]

oh from trying to stack EP

[mighty fractal]

Yeah

You don't have to refresh EP this way

You just get a stack of EP and then zap away with Surge

[spiral storm]

I don't remember if I got it done but I've just been using EP smite nonstop since the buff

[mighty fractal]

and you also do double duty on the Smite penance

Psyker penances are the most chill imo

None of them require dozens of games like Ogryn lucky bullet or heavy hitter, or Vet kraks. You can get the Shield penance in 3-4 Aurics with smart shield placement, and you can finish the Scrier's Gaze penance by just firing a voidstrike into a thick horde a couple of times

Zealot's are almost all chill, except for the Loner backstab penance

[plucky flax]

Super easy with bb ep for me.

[marble crater]

Assail

[strong gulch]

I did mine with ep BB.

[strong gulch]

[swift moss]

nice

[strong gulch]

Too bad it's obscurus.

Rip finesse 🥲

[supple dock]

lmao you poor bastard

[marble crater]

Finally done with the shield penance, that was painful

[strong gulch]

The one thing I thoroughly enjoy about shield is putting the bubble over bonbon. Like putting a cup over a bug.

Otherwise, I like fire vicious mockery too much

[rigid sky]

I dig plopping a bubble down and picking off gunners with EP brain ruptures

[strong gulch]

true that. Double windows for BBs

[marble crater]

I want my shriek back, there have been so many situations where I thought "This would have been a lot easier if I just burned them to death"

[rigid sky]

Apparently I'm weird for going EP/bubble with trauma

[supple dock]

blitz?

[marble crater]

Play what you want, as long as you can cover everything

[strong gulch]

Do not enter the cup. 😡 💥

[steady terrace]

for perfect timing, can allies get the crits and still trigger?

[supple dock]

I think the penance itself tells you yes

or wait

is perfect timing a talent?

[steady terrace]

a talent

[supple dock]

Oh it is a talent

Yeah that's only yours

strong af talent too

[steady terrace]

I need to see how to slot it in with my smite build, on how to get crits

[supple dock]

keep in mind smite doesn't crit

[steady terrace]

yeh

but I want to buff the dmg from smite using this talent

[supple dock]

I mean it could work but tbh i wouldn't recommend adding that to the amount of things you already have to juggle

[steady terrace]

true

[supple dock]

But like, if you can actually do it, you'll be adding like 1.5 damage per smite tick

[strong gulch]

you might have better luck with malefic momentum

[supple dock]

smite does like... 10 damage per tic or something

now if you use EP smite it'll be like, 3 whole damage

[paper lily]

it doesn't last long enough

[strong gulch]

Oh right, is this for memes or actually impactful builds??

[calm sapphire]

u need shriek to make smite good

[paper lily]

yeah of course u do

smite is shit if you take bubble

[strong gulch]

ye

[steady terrace]

why do you need shriek with smite?

[paper lily]

so you can actually kill stuff

well tbf ep smite will kill stuff too but it has synergy with the fact u can make an ep charge last 50% longer

since shriek burns stuff you're more likely to proc battle meditation or w/e it's called which in turn makes smite last longer as well

[steady terrace]

is it better to take the soulblaze one or the one that does pure dmg

for shriek

[paper lily]

pure dmg one scales down in dmg, always take burn

[steady terrace]

ok ty

I am nearly lvl 30 as pysker and it is very fun

I wish I had black robes so I could look like emporor palpatine though with smite lol

[marble crater]

With the soul blaze shriek you can burn down an entire horde of chaff at 80%(?) peril

[supple dock]

85%

for max stacks anyways

[radiant frigate]

cower, plead, beg :)

[supple dock]

[stable silo]

Okay lads.back after a break what's the new meta halp

[supple dock]

depends on what you wanna use

Psyker can use pretty much anything and work

except for lasguns, those are bad

well. "bad" they're usable just not as good as almost every other option

[paper lily]

warpcharge surge/trauma ep smite idk if a dd build is better than those rn

[supple dock]

dd is legit

[strong gulch]

EP smite got a buff. Time between BB casts are a touch shorter. Columbus and DS 4 still super strong.

[supple dock]

all 3 keystones are amazing

[strong gulch]

Right DD is better now. There is a visual bug sometimes tho.

[supple dock]

The only class that can say that

[paper lily]

think ogryn and zealot both have decent keystones, though people would argue gun ogryn keystone is shit

i think it's great personally

[supple dock]

They're fine, sure. But I wouldn't rank them S tier like I would psyker's

[paper lily]

it's not like u have a choice, there's only 3 keystones per class

vet is like u can go 0 keystone build and be fine

[supple dock]

Yeah I hate that for them

[paper lily]

rating them in a tier between classes kinda doesn't make sense

if u can run the keystone and it's effective it's still good

[supple dock]

Why not? A tiering system is just an indication of how their talents interact with the world, not just their own kits

[paper lily]

i can't just reskill as a zealot into a psyker keystone tho

i mean all zealot keystones are great tbf

[supple dock]

That's not the point, it's the interaction or value they get for the investment

[paper lily]

i mean ok? but like i said zealot gets fantastic value from keystones

ogryn does too

[supple dock]

Sure it's arbitrary, but I feel like psyker's keystones shift playstyle a lot more dramatically

[paper lily]

that's just cuz they have heavy interaction with blitzes and combat ability

which is a cornerstone of the class

doesn't inherently make it better or higher tiered

[supple dock]

I guess a keystone that allows you to do more of the same (for the other classes) can be considered pretty good too since you DONT have to change playstyle to benefit

[paper lily]

i'll give you that keystones that do this are far more interesting from a game design standpoint though

'do more dmg lol' is boring design

like ogryn fnp is

[plucky flax]

Zealot martyrdom. Tanky, attack speed, and damage

[supple dock]

Well. all of them

[plucky flax]

It increases both melee and range xd. So the attack speed gives faster fire rate too.

[supple dock]

yee, insanely powerful

[plucky flax]

Sadly people play it for the safety and don't intentionally drop to low hp for the buffs.

Most people anyway.

[supple dock]

When I pointed out some fire for the martyrdom zealot on this discord the guy goes "Yeah? And?" So I'm like "...so you can get martyrdom" And the guy says "Nah, I'd rather lose my hp for something worth it"

Like. What does that mean

[plucky flax]

Sad about momentum nerf. I didn't think it was as strong as martyrdom anyway.

[marble crater]

Momentum was comfy

[upper sun]

he has the hp ult cdr talent

[supple dock]

Go on, if you would, please.

[marble crater]

From what I saw there are two different ways to use martyrdom, one is to get low on purpose to be stronger from the get go, which is good if you can play like that without dying. And the other is playing normally and treating martyrdom more of a "I will drop low eventually, so those bonuses will be a nice bonus for when I need them" which is also good because there is more room for error for when the director hates you

[supple dock]

I'm generally a fan of sink or swim and go raw power so I guess I just didn't understand it well enough

[upper sun]

tbh if you have until death you're fine 90% of the time

[supple dock]

That sounds a lot more condescending than I intended. it was not

[shut nova]

anyone got a good buld for lvl 5 missions

[marble crater]

Yes, for which staff?

Or do you just want some in general?

[supple dock]

we have lots, name weapons you're interested in using

[shut nova]

any staff i jus hot lvl 30 and have been using avail but idk i dnt feel like i m strong enough

[supple dock]

i am having a difficult time understanding what any of this means

[marble crater]

Yeah that won't carry you through missions anymore in damnation

[supple dock]

oh, assail

Yeah, assail is a tool of many that psyker uses. I hope you like swapping weapons a lot

Because that's psyker

You use both your weapons and your blitz a lot

[marble crater]

This with a surge staff and illisi as melee

[supple dock]

I personally take wildfire over the warp siphon's last node but everything else is the same

[marble crater]

I take wildfire instead of soulstealer

[shut nova]

in a game right now will check out aftr

[supple dock]

heathen

[marble crater]

It's the price we pay for warp charges

[supple dock]

I enjoy running down gunner lines too much to not have it

[rigid sky]

I don't think I'd be so happy with Wildfire only having PC and Shriek as sources

Soulstealer gud.

[supple dock]

I dunno, I've killed snipers by mistake due to wildfire

but oh well

[plucky flax]

Based

[rigid sky]

Not just from PC?

[plucky flax]

I did 400k warpfire with surge staff and wildfire xd

[supple dock]

yee, the fire had spread to the far backline where the sniper was offset from my shriek

[strong gulch]

Try the different staves out to see what you like.

purg = fire / aoe
surge = lightening / single target
void = balls / generalist but leans single target
trauma = circle on ground / generalist but aoe

They each have different play styles. Some are harder to build than others because of demanding stats and rolls. Some only feel good with high rolls. Trauma is hardest to build and purg is easiest to build.

[marble crater]

Trauma is also awkward to use at first, because the targeting is different, but after a while it becomes second nature (also buff please)

[supple dock]

i would avoid trauma without the proper blessings

[spice veldt]

tbf it's awkward until you realize that the aiming mechanism is the exact same as a projectile weapon like the rumbler

it's just that you don't get the aiming arc that rumblers/grenades do

[marble crater]

Huh

[supple dock]

That's.. huh. That's a good find

[spice veldt]

the unintuitive aspects come from the fact that this arc has a non-obvious limited range, and it does not "land" on enemies like rumblers/grenades do
but otherwise, it is the same

if you can aim a zealot's throwing knife, then you can aim a trauma

[marble crater]

So if I can aim trauma I can aim zealot knife as well, time to get that penance

[rigid sky]

Trauma easier since no travel time and it shows you where it is aiming

[upper sun]

damn i dont even use knives but this lookds good

[shut nova]

yea im using eq mk4 voidstrike force

is this one goood?

[upper sun]

you cant post images until you post a bit more on the discord

write down the stats

[shut nova]

i was using trauma but the aim was a lul awkward

why would you not b able to post a pic if youre showing someone something about the game tht makes no sense

[zinc star]

to help stop trolls from spaming the server when they join

[upper sun]

there were a bunch of bots that spammed the discord

[zinc star]

just keep talking youll get a red name then you can post pics

after awhile

[upper sun]

talking

like

this

might help move things along faster

[shut nova]

ahh makes sense

[marble crater]

Please don't

[upper sun]

pffff someones clearly too young for irc

[marble crater]

No, but I'm too old for 10 one word messages in a row

[supple dock]

i uniroincally do that because i get way too stream of consciousness-y when I chat

[upper sun]

theres nothing wrong with doing this

if you're fast enough so no one cuts you off

[zinc star]

all fun in games till the bot tells you to stfu

[upper sun]

ive been saying that for a while bots should be able to talk smach to you in chat

[zinc star]

would make sense for the hadron bot to be sassy

[supple dock]

yee. I type at around 100wpm :p

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike in general can be really good but tends to be quite specific to build

It has more valid builds than all the other staves too

[supple dock]

most staves have likje..

2-3 builds

[rigid sky]

As far as blessings go, purgatus and surge have 1 each (which is the same for both)

[upper sun]

by most you mean trauma and void

[rigid sky]

Trauma has 2, 3 if you want to entertain the Blazing spirit/flurry degenerates

Voidstrike has 3, 4-5 if you want to entertain the transfer peril degenerates

[marble crater]

I run my purgatus with run n gun and terrifying barrage, I speed run the mission and everyone is suppressed

[supple dock]

my braincells are suppressed hearing that

[upper sun]

have a zealot follow you around the map and thats peak game play

[strong gulch]

234

next is 345

[supple dock]

just run DS5 and use Vent like a human being if you wanna speedrun

[marble crater]

You are just jealous of my god roll

[supple dock]

[rigid sky]

Which god? Dionysius?

[supple dock]

was promethius a god? I forget

i know he pissed them off by giving humans fire but I forget if he had actual god status or was like some kinda demigod

[rigid sky]

What's that one from the Hogfather

The oh god of hangovers

What was he called

[supple dock]

idfk lmao

[rigid sky]

Bilious apparently

[marble crater]

See you in a week

[shut nova]

tht llighting was weak asf i did zero dmg w it

and it ran up my peril like crzy

[upper sun]

surge staff?

[shut nova]

i wa shoking a mf fo0r like 8 secxonds and still didnt killl him

[upper sun]

oh you mean smite

[shut nova]

nah the middle perk

[upper sun]

yeah its not a damage tool its for crowd control

[rigid sky]

Smite needs EP if you want damage

Otherwise it's exclusively fir control

You dont want it to be stronger than Purgatus for damage

[shut nova]

yea well ig

why shock a crowd whn avail can jus kil the whole crowd

[rigid sky]

You're thinking about trash enemies

Think instead about elites and disablers

Especially mixed with trash (or just in a big blob)

Plus assail performs poorly into carapace

Although tbf I don't know if smite still stunlocks crushers

Smite is also nice to add damage to a big Shriek

And helps to hold enemies still to ensure a high value Shriek

And generates peril fast which can also help with Shriek or just toughness gen in general

[marble crater]

Hold 5 crushers together for a nice krak grenade

[rigid sky]

Combos well with all of the grenades tbh (besides stuns)

Incendiary, frag bomb, shreddies, rocks and boxes at least

[upper sun]

(smoke wasnt mentioned because its ass

[marble crater]

I remember playing psyker as my first class and being confused why I couldn't pick up grenades from boxes during missions

(yes I skipped one of the tutorials)

[upper sun]

tutorials are bad

[marble crater]

To this day I don't know what the advanced tutorial does, I didn't do it because there is no reward for it

[upper sun]

they never mention dealing with specialists

something about gunners and cover

[rigid sky]

I had a great vet game where the team had a smite psyker and every time I saw him do his thing I'd just lob a Shreddy over there

[supple dock]

smite is very powerful with creeping flames for hordes, and it's very powerful when your team is backed into a corner getting pushed by 20+ elites

and no, that number is not an exaggeration

[dusk stump]

When you’ve got 15 crushers 10 feet away wanting to say hi, smite seems a whole lot more like a good option

[supple dock]

my issue with most smite psykers is because they forget they have other weapons besides smite

[flint pawn]

Alright chat

I wanna make a dueling sword finally, which one is generally considered the best of the 3

[supple dock]

DS4

[flint pawn]

Gotcha, thanks mate

[supple dock]

used mostly for mutants and mobility

[flint pawn]

That's the sword that has its lights better off for cleaving than the others right

Isn't it just two side to side slashes

Or something like that

[supple dock]

Yeah, but it's not the best for cleave

[flint pawn]

Of course

[supple dock]

DS2 is I believe

But DS4 has much more practical use

[flint pawn]

Gotcha, I'll remember that

[supple dock]

and DS5 if you just want raw mobility

[spice veldt]

ds4 simultaneously has the best lights and the best heavies for some reason

lights have the same stats but it loops into two overhead strikes compared to the mk2 which iirc loops through its full 4-hit combo which has some uppercuts

[fossil lagoon]

does this include damage from staff ?

[flint pawn]

Also I wanna improve my knife, asides from the obvious "oh my god that Finesse is terrible" what'd be the best way to improve this? The Lacerate stays.

[plucky flax]

Yes

[plucky flax]

Go uncanny instead of ruthless backstab. You can keep lacerate if you want or swap that to flesh tearer.

[flint pawn]

Should the Elites damage be changed to anything?

[plucky flax]

You can't it's locked.

[shut nova]

ppl run the duelling sword for crit does the sword have more crit than the others or is reposte on all swords

[flint pawn]

Oh, to be clear

I meant I'm gonna make a better knife

Like a new one

[plucky flax]

I like flak unyielding on knife personally. Since they both take extra damage from bleed.

[upper sun]

it has very good weakspot damage

[plucky flax]

With uncanny for even more bleed damage.

[flint pawn]

Sounds good to me, I'll do it

Oh. I never noticed when they boosted Lacerate from 4 bleed stacks to 8. No wonder why everyone says it's better. I'm a damned fool lol

I mean

Flesh Tearer, not Lacerate

[stable silo]

did they buff scriers gaze?

[marble crater]

Yes, the cooldown decreases while it's active now

[stable silo]

oh nice

[radiant frigate]

uncanny strike

thank you discord for not scrolling all the way down

[sweet wadi]

any psyker lvling groups today?

[upper sun]

not sure what you're looking for

people to boost or people to level with?

[sweet wadi]

deff would prefer the boost

[upper sun]

ask around the vox channel for your region

[plucky flax]

I can boost you in sedition.

[marble crater]

Are you good enough to carry in sedition?

[dim parrot]

agent literally is the sedition goat

[upper sun]

its true i was dueling a scab brusier for 30 minutes and he 3 tapped it

[marble crater]

I feel called out, I had that experience with a bulwark earlier, I couldn't get around the shield without getting shot to death

[upper sun]

i once left a game because i was locked in a corridor with a mutie and a bulwark

[marble crater]

Fair

[prime elk]

i love it when brain burst leaves ragers on 10 hp!

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-19354605

[prime elk]

yeah what a joke of an ability

actually same with bulwarks now

[paper lily]

whats ur build

[prime elk]

it has EP and warp rider

[paper lily]

do u get the ranged dmg talent

[prime elk]

no, it's on the other side of the tree

[paper lily]

you dont get cdr?

[prime elk]

don't remember, doesn't matter

[paper lily]

well it does, because that talent would make your bb a one shot

[prime elk]

it doesn't matter, because i'm not giving it another chance

[paper lily]

why mention it then

[late sapphire]

You are silly but it's ok because bb sucks ass

[prime elk]

because i wanted to say that it's ass

that's all

[late sapphire]

Even if you run a proper bb build it's a slow stupid boring ability for slow stupid boring psykers

[prime elk]

i was running EP + KR + double shield to make it less slow

even if i had reached the bulwark/rager breakpoints, still an ass ability

hadn't played it in a while, so figured i'd give it another try

silly me

[plucky flax]

4 knives zealots Xd

[paper lily]

lacerate lacerate lacerate

[plucky flax]

1 flesh tearer. Spotted the noob.

[thick tiger]

Which curios and curio perks are the best picks for psyker? Does it depend much on the build?

[plucky flax]

Found a super good voidstrike base. First upgrade was promising. Then fartshart crafting system striked.

[paper lily]

i use toughness curios with toughness, toughness regen and 3rd pick is ur choice

[vernal temple]

not perfect, but better than nothing, right?

[paper lily]

i like corruption resistance

[plucky flax]

Curios are super personal. You can make all kind of stuff work.

[paper lily]

without bonus toughness i think a single stalker can drain ur entire bar

[mortal notch]

Hey psychers i have a quick question... so im trying to get this blessing.... but ive upgraded 40 trauam staffs searching for a level3 or 4 rending shockwave and have not even found the blessing at any rank.... any idea whats going on?

40 upgrades havent even seen the blessing seems wild

[strong gulch]

Just RNG.

[mortal notch]

its actually that bad huh

insanity

[strong gulch]

It can be. Some blessings are T4 only and blessings are not shared between staves. So it take MONTHS to get a specific blessing. 😭

[mortal notch]

WAIT

T4 ONLY?

REALLY?

I DIDNT KNOW THAT WTF

WHICH ONES?

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty is one example

[strong gulch]

Surge blessing

[mortal notch]

omfg i had no idea

[strong gulch]

Rending Shockwave is not like that tho.

[spice veldt]

there are also some t3-only and whatnot

[mortal notch]

Can anyone confirm is Rending shockwave is one of these?

[spice veldt]

rending exists at all tiers

[mortal notch]

insanity

[strong gulch]

Keep checking melk shop and regular store. If you are low on mats, just upgrade to blue.

[mortal notch]

i upgraded 40 staffs to blue looking for the blessing

[marble crater]

Uncanny instead of shred

[strong gulch]

If you are REALLY wanting to, level another psyker for more melk opportunities.

[strong gulch]

more

[upper sun]

took me ~40k plasteel for thrust 4

i wanna say 20k for pcycle 4

[vernal temple]

don't have that unlocked yet

[marble crater]

Sad

[upper sun]

some blessings are so good fatshark personally reduces their rates

[vernal temple]

I'm a hobo with less than 200 plasteel at the moment

[strong gulch]

I have been playing since beta. I only got surge on void last November after consistent farming. 😭

[upper sun]

wait game went off beta?

[strong gulch]

[mental grail]

Anyone have advice fir perilous focus penance?

The "kill 40 enemies in a single scryers gaze"

I've gotten to 32

[strong gulch]

in game can type what I did later

[mental grail]

I cant seem to get further

[dark stag]

Please tell me there's a mod to disable crossplay

[long wharf]

how could a mod do that?

[lapis violet]

worth getting?

i know the perks are bad but like

[fluid skiff]

I need a build to do the disrupt destiny penance, anyone have one they enjoy?

[lapis violet]

for clearing hordes?

[queen fog]

Why care bout the perks when the modifier’s solid

Get it if u think it’ll be useful

U can always swap out the blessings

[long wharf]

no.

[upper sun]

its kinda pre bricked and charge rate is low

[lapis violet]

i don't have a trauma force and want to get a decent/good one to test out if i like it in my hands

[long wharf]

it's worth neither dockets nor milkies

[queen fog]

If u got none I’d recommend that one

Better than nothing

[queen fog]

Hell it almost has max blast radius so it’ll do wonders knocking over hordes

[lapis violet]

also gets you closer to the assail penance if you need to get it

[upper sun]

looks good tho i would get the other toughness on peril one

[lapis violet]

i remember some time ago i posted a build and asked around what to switch

and this came out of it sorta

[plucky flax]

Ye switch toughness on peril to toughness on quell.

[lapis violet]

ii might have changed it some time after to this because i forgot the tips

[upper sun]

mettle is similar enough to warp exp and it its better

[lapis violet]

my surge/smite and purgatus both have toughness on quell so i have no idea why i had that one

[plucky flax]

Quietude goated toughness regen talent.

[supple dock]

if you're running surge idt you really need empathic evasion

[long wharf]

empathic evasion is always a good choice

[plucky flax]

It's his assail build.

[supple dock]

oh i see

[lapis violet]

this is an assail voidstrike

[supple dock]

ignore then o7

[upper sun]

i always try to get EE on surge and purge idk about the others

[plucky flax]

On purga ye not on surge. Your fire rate is not fast enough imo.

[supple dock]

I feel like with surge it's not as important because you're stunning them anyways

[plucky flax]

Also surge by itself is already anti shooters.

[long wharf]

surge only stuns 2 enemies at a time

you aren't dodging them, you're dodging the 10 other gunners you aren't stunning

or the reaper you happen to run in front of as you dodge around

[lapis violet]

do i get rid of warp rider and invest into empathic evasion?

[long wharf]

auto-dodging for a full second every time you crit is massive survivability

[upper sun]

nah warp rider is great

[long wharf]

you want both

[lapis violet]

i don't really have anywhere i can pick up a point

[plucky flax]

You already have ee on that build.

[upper sun]

you have EE in it

[upper sun]

yeah

[lapis violet]

not on my surge build

cc heavy build

[plucky flax]

Oh don't need ee on surge.

[lapis violet]

it crits like a MF

[long wharf]

on smite

smite != surge

[lapis violet]

y'all were saying surge

[plucky flax]

I don't run ee on my surge smite build.

[long wharf]

and you can't really focus on both smite and surge at the same time

[lapis violet]

lies and deceit

[long wharf]

you should pick one to build around

[lapis violet]

it's literally my best working build fym

[upper sun]

isnt surge is literally called smite in game

[lapis violet]

?

[long wharf]

surge staff secondary is called a smite

[long wharf]

but it's not Smite

[upper sun]

[lapis violet]

sure but we don't call purgatus' attacks "coruscation"

[upper sun]

bruh fatshark sucks at naming shit

[long wharf]

exactly this

[lapis violet]

such a weird way to remember surge's attack

[long wharf]

Smite is the blitz

surge is the staff

[upper sun]

also a blessing

[plucky flax]

271 smol shooters kills (xd)
No down no death.

[long wharf]

and also a blessing

FartShack is shit with naming

[plucky flax]

No need ee.

[late sapphire]

Wdym it's the coruscation staff

[lapis violet]

?????????????????

[long wharf]

but yes, generally if you're running Smite, you don't get EE

[lapis violet]

y'all need some re-education in the astra telepathica

it's getting unbearable

[long wharf]

most people prioritize reduced peril generation

[late sapphire]

Scab? Dregs? Wake up sienna, we have rats to kill

[long wharf]

which prevents you from getting EE

[plucky flax]

I'd remove soulstealer and pick wildfire up. Then it's the exact surge smite illisi build I use.

[lapis violet]

if i run EP instead of WS, i could get some more things

especially EE

[long wharf]

I wouldn't bother with Wildfire

[lapis violet]

wildfire is nice to get but not a 100% need

[plucky flax]

439k warpfire damage on surge staff

[long wharf]

you play by yourself, so hush

[lapis violet]

if it's a choice between kinetic deflection and ee on a surge loadout, which is preferred?

[long wharf]

ee

[plucky flax]

[lapis violet]

keep in mind i run ds4

[long wharf]

I don't prioritize KD at all

[queen fog]

Kinetic only handy for times ur not near cover to block shots

[plucky flax]

I'd go kd over ee personally.

[long wharf]

and when I have it, I basically never use it

[queen fog]

I rock it tho cuz I don’t got good tiered EE

[lapis violet]

it's saved me against a pogryn charge a couple times

[plucky flax]

Saved me many times when I'm solo clutching.

[upper sun]

kd deflector is so comfy but dodging is still better than blocking

[lapis violet]

i have an idea

hold my beer

[upper sun]

simply get better teammates

[plucky flax]

Sedition teammates are treacherous.

[lapis violet]

here's what i did

[upper sun]

for surge?

[lapis violet]

switched the path from perilous combustion on the left to that one node on the right

to get to smite

[plucky flax]

Bruh

[lapis violet]

which freed up 1 point

[plucky flax]

[lapis violet]

it's a shriek-spammy surge smite build so i get soulblaze anyway

on that topic, does trauma get the "soulblaze on crit" blessing?

[plucky flax]

You get way more with combustion.

[upper sun]

we would have none of these problems if warp siphon wasnt fo fucking stupidly fat

[lapis violet]

fax

if i was running assail or bb on this build, which are both superfluous, i'd have many points to spare

[cinder moon]

blazing trauma, yes

[plucky flax]

Ah yes the really bad weapon.

[vernal temple]

why doesn't this crap count?

killed a bazillion bursters without anyone taking damage

what gives

[swift moss]

Did you ´kill´ them

or did they kill themselves

[strong gulch]

I was able to do with voidstrike. I used the battle meditation talent and transfer peril blessing in a more hallway focused map (not an open one). That way I could extent how long SG was up. Some of it RNG. Needing a high enough enemy dentistry and teammates not killing everything.

[vernal temple]

usually I push them and they blow up

[swift moss]

pretty sure you have to kill them before they blow themselves up

[vernal temple]

well the game does say "[my character name] killed Poxburster"

plus I've directly killed so many with my surge staff from a distance

[strong gulch]

This is what's meant on surge being called smite. Also the game code calls surge secondary smite for some reason.

[vernal temple]

yet this penance still shows 3/50

[cinder moon]

pop scriers with an illisi and just go face first into a bunch of poxwalkers on a high-int mission

[upper sun]

i think it only accepts pushes

sniping one from 6 levels away doesnt count

[marble crater]

I'm at 6/50

[upper sun]

🤔 i think around 4?

i usually just walk away if i hear pox burster

my team can face tank them not my problem

[cinder moon]

these days i have more problems with teammates damaging me via barrels than poxwalkers

someone ruined my 10 aurics without dying streak by blowing up a barrel in my face and sending me off a cliff

[marble crater]

[turbid bluff]

So I normally just sell guns from mission rewards since I'm a psyker, and if I wanted guns I'd play veteran, but I think this one is worth keeping? lol

[cinder moon]

later in that same mission, someone shot a fire barrel i was standing right next to and drained my health from 90% to 1%

[marble crater]

Someone in my game had his streak ruined as well, he died, yelled nooo and then ***** left the game

[cinder moon]

i'm not gonna save scum for this shit but i am going to blacklist barrel shooters

learn some karking trigger discipline

[marble crater]

Yeah, surgical instead of sustained fire and then perks I don't know

[turbid bluff]

I'm not sure I'll use it tbh, but it seems too good to throw away lol. Also, how would you save-scum in Darktide? lol

[marble crater]

Leave before you die, as that saves your win streak

[turbid bluff]

Tbh, I'd probably do that if I was ever going for the Auric Survivor achievement. But I'm not confident I have the skills for auric

[rigid sky]

Keep good CIAGs, Zaronas and Accatran Laspistols, arguably also Vraks VII headhunters

Gundalf is the secret 5th class

[supple dock]

gotta have the quick reaction to identify it and alt f4 it

[turbid bluff]

I mean, my loot is usually pretty mediocre since I don't normally play auric lol. Tho I do toss any blessing to the shrine of the omnissiah if possible

[supple dock]

Won't know if you don't try!

[turbid bluff]

Well right now I'm just trying for other penances anyways. Maybe I'll try auric levels when my build is designed for doing missions instead of whatever penance lol

I still need a group for Malleus Monstronum

[strong gulch]

Yup hand cannon + surgical is a great blessing combo. Another option is crucian roulette instead of surgical, but then that makes me make bad ammo decisions.

For perks, I like flak and carapace. They both get me to more comfy break points for maulers and crushers. The Atheneum has different recommendations for perks tho.

You break points might vary depending on what keystone you take.

[fluid skiff]

Assail + Voidstrike is pretty useful for nabbing the DD targets, thanks for the tip

[vernal temple]

just completed a mission. did pushes, did primary strike with staff, secondary strike, even killed with smite. still 3/50

I think it's broken

[upper sun]

yeah

im pretty sure the clutch one is broken for me

[lapis violet]

siblings

it has been done

[vernal temple]

congrats!

[fluid skiff]

did that one last night on the Vigil Station Oblivium finale bridges.

[wind ether]

whats the best defensive dueling sword build?

[lapis violet]

you can actually see the frame i realized i could actually try the penance there

[lapis violet]

by this you mean using the sword as a defensive measure more so than an offensive one or a defensive build that uses a dueling sword?

[fluid skiff]

a force sword with Deflector 4

[wind ether]

the former

just like an, oh shit I need to dodge the hell outta here, weapon

[lapis violet]

because the DS2 has immense horde clearing capability, as compared to DS4 which has a lot of vertical slashes and stabs, which aren't suited for defensive manouevres (being surrounded by a horde)

love it or hate it, the DS2 is superb

[wind ether]

horde clear I'm not too worried about, so long as I can like... survive a boss or pack of elites running me down

[real glen]

Levelling up a Psyker for Penance points

Coming from Vet…feels sort of familiar, sort of different XD

[austere crest]

Y’all are wild

[lapis violet]

what do you mean by "defensive" then? what do you need out of the melee weapon for it to be considered defensive

because the only couple of defensive melees i know about are the ogryn shield, zealot crusher and zealot ironhelm hammer

[austere crest]

Ds4 doesn’t have blocking capabilities

Oh wait

Everything does

XD

[wind ether]

hmmmm I guess im not sure lol. I'm using illisi rn and its fine for what it is but I feel like its lacking in mobility. maybe its just a playstyle issue, coming from zealot

[lapis violet]

oh blocking capabilities? force sword with deflection, warp rider and -% peril generation from places

[austere crest]

Or just warp rider

[lapis violet]

a DS is never going to be a blocking sword

you get like... one block

WITH warp rider kinetic deflection

[austere crest]

what lol

[radiant frigate]

deflector bad

[radiant frigate]

also, what

[austere crest]

Deflector the worst blessing agree

[lapis violet]

I CORRECTED MYSELF

THEY'RE NEXT TO EACH OTHER

deflector bad but blocking is not a thing

[austere crest]

If you run kinetic deflection, block is good on everything

[radiant frigate]

kinetc deflection is core imo

[austere crest]

Yeah

[radiant frigate]

how else are you ever going to get a res that is contested at all

[lapis violet]

i'm telling you, i blocked one big hit and got to 0 stam and a lot of peril

[austere crest]

I can’t imagine not having it

O.O what were u blocking? U can face tank DH for days

[lapis violet]

wth are you doing to do that?

a damn pogryn charge takes all of my stamina and critical peril's me

[radiant frigate]

3 stam curio + KD = block the world

[supple dock]

pogryn charge does 40% peril to me 😄

[supple dock]

especially if you have venting shirek 😄

[supple dock]

dodge distance, dodge counts, and movement speed

[mental grail]

Bro

Bless you

[cinder moon]

gratifying, sibling

[austere crest]

Just dodge

[austere crest]

This x 3, 9 stamina, 3 stamina regen is insanely efficient

I wanna slay heretics

25 more min of work 😦

[marble crater]

thank god

[supple dock]

LET'S GOOO

[marble crater]

[supple dock]

only had to savescum twice

[marble crater]

Ewww

[brazen epoch]

I wanna say thank you to the devs for lowering the time required to get the War Battery penance, I managed to get it by complete accident without trying much

[marble crater]

Congrats

[brazen epoch]

Now I just need the cliffhanger which has been driving me crazy XD

[real glen]

Either my laptop has been on for too long.
Or it really, really finds all the psyker effects extra stressful to render

[marble crater]

Why not both

[real glen]

Or both, yes

[supple dock]

fuck you i got a neat title

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-mod-miguel-gato-cat-gif-22365379

[cinder moon]

watch yer karkin mouth

[brazen epoch]

Hey siblings what dose it mean on the Pick n’ Mix penance when it says “kill 4 different elites”?

For example Dose it mean I have to kill a shotgun, gunner, sniper, and flamer?

Am I just overthinking this?

[marble crater]

Pretty sure it just means kill 4 elites, snipers and flamers are not elites, fyi

[rigid sky]

EP makes it a lot easier

[supple dock]

yeah, just separate enemies

[brazen epoch]

Thanks

[rigid sky]

EP and bubble, you can stand out in the open with any number of gunners pummelling you

And just pop pop pop pop

[brazen epoch]

Ah I see

[marble crater]

I got mine on ragers in heresy while leveling

[brazen epoch]

Thanks

[supple dock]

ider when I got mine that's how insignificant it was to get

[rigid sky]

Tbh I have probably got that penance like 5 times over by now

The final checkpoint door on hab dreyko is a great place for it

The big blue-grey metal room before you enter hab laranax

With the medicae near the start on the right

[supple dock]

kinetic resonance + EP and you'll get it without even knowing

[marble crater]

Ah yes, hab laranax

[rigid sky]

And the revive point at the far end at the left

That room gets stuffed full of elites

It's a great place for an aneurysm party

[austere crest]

rdy 2 slay anyone need help with anything

[marble crater]

Someone was looking for cliffhanger help earlier

[austere crest]

Ooo whats that

[supple dock]

shoving 20 enemies off a cliff and causing them to die I think

[long wharf]

it used to be 20, now it's 7, IIRC

[supple dock]

man I was in the fuckin fields compared to the kids nowadays

[long wharf]

what does that mean?

[supple dock]

penances were harder aha

and really dyssynergistic af

[long wharf]

yikes, you actually typed "dyssynergistic"

[supple dock]

yeah, weird, i use words in a language

don't be too intimidated now

they're only words

[long wharf]

I mean, that's what I was going to tell you

since "dyssynergistic" isn't a word

there is no English language word for "lacking synergy"

you could say "asynergistic"

[supple dock]

It relates to a medical condition

[long wharf]

that'd be far more proper than "dyssynergistic", especially since the prefix would actually be "dis" and not "dys"

[austere crest]

ohh that sounds fun iHelp

[long wharf]

it's nice that you used google to try to find usage of the word you made up

[supple dock]

?

[long wharf]

but medical terms aren't common usage English

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/synergistic

[supple dock]

get over yourself clown

[long wharf]

ah well, at least you stopped trying to sound smart.

[supple dock]

sound smart? I just like words, you're the one intimidated by intelligence

[long wharf]

projection isn't new, try harder

if you really liked words, you wouldn't have typed "dyssynergistic"

[supple dock]

So aggressive

[long wharf]

and you certainly wouldn't have doubled down on it

[supple dock]

Like you have no reason to be this aggressive

Calm down man

[long wharf]

maybe you're used to dealing with people that just assume you know what you're talking about?

[supple dock]

It's just a word lmao

[long wharf]

my point was, actually, that it's not a word 🙂

[supple dock]

who cares?

Well, you do

[long wharf]

but you'd rather be butt-hurt than learn something new

[supple dock]

But still

[long wharf]

kids these days.

[long wharf]

proof point #3 that you don't actually "care about words"

etymology is an actually fascinating subject

[supple dock]

yeah, it is

[long wharf]

and you, little boy, know nothing about it

[supple dock]

I look into it often

But you're being an asshole for literally 0 reason

Get over yourself

[long wharf]

I'm being an ass because you doubled down on your wrongness

[supple dock]

That's no reason to be an asshole over a word

it's pathetic, you're literally just looking for a fight

[fluid skiff]

man, I have decided that I don't like DD. the bonuses are too annoying to maintain for (I think?) less overall damage increase compared to the other two keystones. glad that penance is done.

[supple dock]

dd is mega strong

like outdamage veteran strong

[radiant frigate]

incorrect decision

[fluid skiff]

it's probably better on gunker, but I don't play that way.

I'm exclusively a staff user

[radiant frigate]

as in, exclusively pick staff as your ranged weapon, or exclusively cast

[fluid skiff]

I don't use guns.

[radiant frigate]

alright, neither do i

DD is still really strong

[rigid sky]

DD is pretty much just for guns and voidstrike imo

[radiant frigate]

and melee

[rigid sky]

And assail and melee

You want to benefit from the entire buff

[fluid skiff]

if the targeting was a little more consistent (I kept not having any marks after someone else killed the target, idk why) I'd like it more.

[rigid sky]

If you aren't weakspotting with good Finesse modifiers, it's probably not worth it

[rigid sky]

Visual bug

It is possible that you have stacks but can't see them

Which sucks

And I hope gets fixed

Oh wait you said marks

Misread that as stacks

[fluid skiff]

No, I mean someone else would kill the marked target, and then it would be several seconds before another enemy got marked

[rigid sky]

Yeah that happens

But if you take lingering influence it takes 30 seconds to lose 1 weakspot kill of stacks

Maintenance should be a lot easier than before this patch

DD always had problems with inconsistency but at least the stacks fall off slowly now

[fluid skiff]

it's just that on my usual Assail build, I don't have any issues maintaining 6 warp charges passively by sticking near teammates, aim throwing at specials, or spamming darts/charged surge staff into hordes. I guess I'm too used to taking Solidity on my EP or WS builds for hyperspeed quelling, but that was also messing me up while using Assail, it felt like an eternity .

[mental grail]

It's simply the easiest with these

Point n click

[rigid sky]

Also they hit weakspots.

[supple dock]

i spam my ult too much to make use of 6 stacks ws lmao

[rigid sky]

So they benefit from the weakspot damage boost

[rigid sky]

But on the other hand 6 stacks means more spam

[fluid skiff]

I'm sure I'd also enjoy it more if my damn controller didn't have awful stick drift as well.

[mental grail]

Opposite for me, I lowkey hate popping my ult and getting rid of stacks lol

[supple dock]

yeees, but the uptime I get to have 6 stacks isn't worth a talent point somewhere else imo

[mental grail]

I only do it for the team really

[rigid sky]

Fair point, warp siphon is expensive

[supple dock]

My ult's on like a 11 second cooldown at 4 stacks

[mental grail]

immensely relatable

[supple dock]

hah, console nerds

[austere crest]

OK THIS IS FUN

[supple dock]

this pains me

on a level I didn't know existed

[mental grail]

I have both platforms I am both a scrub and ascended

[long wharf]

uhhhhh

[supple dock]

day walker

[mental grail]

What the fuck

[austere crest]

OK BUT HEAR ME OUT

[mental grail]

No EP, DD, or warp charges

Legitimately insane behavior

[austere crest]

it's hyper efficient

[supple dock]

hyper cringe

[austere crest]

it's not the strongest at anything, but great at everything

[supple dock]

ws already does that though

[austere crest]

😮 dont be a meta slave like that, have fun

[rigid sky]

Yay less mechanics

[marble crater]

Gamesir G7 SE, never have stick drift again

[rigid sky]

"Fun"

[austere crest]

its more mechanics though

efficiency is awesome

[round gull]

Hiiiii,one question

How is the support gameplay as a psyker?I'm really intrigued about it

[rigid sky]

Define support

[supple dock]

A lot of people fall into the trap of "support"

You should be dealing damage no matter WHAT you do

[round gull]

I have heard a lot about it

[rigid sky]

We are super flexible

[long wharf]

I can't imagine enjoying BB without EP to make it faster

[rigid sky]

We usually have like one glaring weakness somewhere depending on our build

[mental grail]

Support by killing everyone, unless you run smite, then ewww

cc

[supple dock]

smite surge combat knife, no weaknesses

[rigid sky]

Smite and Shield are what would be considered to be our big support things

[fluid skiff]

Support psyker I'd say is EP smite

[austere crest]

its pretty fast on its own with Kinetic Resonance, and it's a BB when u want it build, not a bb only build

[rigid sky]

I wouldn't combine the two though

[supple dock]

yeah KR is legit for damage

[round gull]

Interesting

[austere crest]

agree

[marble crater]

what is this build

[mental grail]

You have to do that for multiple penances and it legitimately put me off BB for literally 6 months

[supple dock]

KF though is terrible

[rigid sky]

Flayer is utter shite

[supple dock]

The only reason it was good before the talent tree change was because you got warp siphon stacks for BB'ing something

[rigid sky]

Ooh, I popped a poxburster

[royal ibex]

'find a hunting grounds to try get the empowered psionics out of the way'
'psyker with empowered smite joins as well and ends up taking 80% of the kills'

[austere crest]

flayer with warp rupture pops off

[supple dock]

So you just use KF and don't worry about that mechanic at all

[rigid sky]

Get me a fucking parade

[long wharf]

I did the BB penances before the skill trees existed

[rigid sky]

Wait you took warp rupture too

[austere crest]

same XD