also I wouldn't combine Illisi force sword with Purgatus
#psyker-class
sturdy oar
damn, any deimis talent trees here i can copy?
late yew
Don't judge balance until you are 30 btw
rigid sky
Kinetic Resonance is great, Kinetic Flayer is shit.
rigid sky
I'll link you my Purgatus and Trauma builds since they both use Deimos, give me a sec
late yew
Kinetic Resonance is great, Kinetic Flayer is shit.
may be flayer could be good on low diffs?
rigid sky
may be flayer could be good on low diffs?
In the same sense as an empty talent point can be good in low diffs, sure
rigid sky
is smite better than brain rupture
It Depends^tm
late yew
and having certain items and talents combos in mind
sturdy oar
because they rely on being level 30
well id still like to have it :/
late yew
well id still like to have it :/
Honestly, just experiement
sturdy oar
no
late yew
and get Scoreboard mod
rigid sky
Brain Burst is really something that comes into its own more in damnation imo
marble crater
99% of the time Kinetic Flayer will hit a poxwalker 
late yew
To see how you perform
sturdy oar
sorry, i just dont like making builds myself
id rather not, missions are like 30 mins long
sturdy oar
maybe if this was payday 2
but missions are way too long in this game for me to experiment
sturdy oar
im fu cking asking for builds
and this dude is trying his hardest for me to not get said build
jesus
plucky flax
late yew
im fu cking asking for builds
and i am fuckn saying that builds are useless for you
plucky flax
marble crater
He said he will link you builds though 
plucky flax
rigid sky
this is my purgatus
late yew
Some talents simply don't work well without more advanced talents
rigid sky
I left a blessing slot open on the deimos because it's subjective
sturdy oar
thx
strong gulch
sorry, i just dont like making builds myself
There is A LOT to get into. There is a a quide up in the pins called the atheneum. Though it is geared towards lvl 30, it has recommendations for weapon building and example builds.
late yew
Not even mentioning blessings
strong gulch
Getting hit with a ton of info when everything is new isn't always helpful.
sturdy oar
i suck at talent building haha all i wanted was to see a talent build ack
is brain rupture really the best?
marble crater
Just do what you want though.
Smite, Purgatus, Illisi with DD and Sciers, here I go
strong gulch
valid.
rigid sky
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9be21d89-83bd-4242-a798-8fbe54e94f11 and this is my Trauma build
sturdy oar
i should make a shield build later for penances
rigid sky
is brain rupture really the best?
Tbh no
It's good and it fills a niche for some weapons
I use it in 2 builds only, which coincidentally are the two I showed you
vestal fulcrum
is brain rupture really the best?
On some weapon setups, it’s a nice compliment in the department of killing specific mid-high health targets
late yew
BP is good with EP
rigid sky
In a vacuum, Smite and Assail are better imo.
late yew
can chain one-shot bunch of ragers
rigid sky
but sometimes your build really needs Brain Rupture
late yew
or gunners
vestal fulcrum
But it’s definitely not “best”. No Psyker blitz is “the” best
sturdy oar
should i pick assail or smite for deimos
rigid sky
and yeah, with EP it goes from being "niche" to "holy shit this is amazing"
frail pasture
assail is the weakest of the blitzes imo
rigid sky
should i pick assail or smite for deimos
You're gonna hate me for this, but it's up to you lmao
frail pasture
id go smite
strong gulch
Best pretty subjective.
Brain burst, aka brain rupture, is reliable. It comes into its own with a dedicated build or to fill in gaps of a build.
rigid sky
but again, don't pick your blitz based on your melee
Pick it based on your ranged weapon
frail pasture
Well pick it based on the gaps in your build
rigid sky
if you're gonna take a gun, then smite and assail are both viable
sturdy oar
this a good start?
rigid sky
Assail edges over it if you take True Aim and Disrupt Destiny imo
vestal fulcrum
should i pick assail or smite for deimos
IMO Smite if you’re using it alongside Venting Shriek ability, and Assail if you plan to pick up other skills to back up its damage 
rigid sky
this a good start?
Not bad, you haven't taken anything objectionable there
Only thing I would say is, what warp attacks are you doing that'll get kills yet?
Smite is relatively low damage
so maybe soulstealer doesn't have a point for you yet
rigid sky
Soulstealer is fantastic and should be on basically every build at 30
but you're not level 30 and you don't have the same suite of warp damage shit that we get
rigid sky
even level 30 gun psykers will use (a lot) more warp damage than you
strong gulch
For leveling, I'd go assail because you can actually kill things vs stunning them. Later in the talent tree, smite can be more aggressive instead of just crowd control.
rigid sky
If you go Assail, then keep Soulstealer
but Smite is mostly just for crowd control
at least, unless you take EP but that's a keystone you won't have a chance to take until much later
and talent respecs are free ofc
strong gulch
Most impart is to play what you like.
rigid sky
so no point in taking it into account yet
There's like a whole spectrum isn't there, from "pick the talents with the funniest looking icons" to "pick THE META or die"
frail pasture
Most impart is to play what you like.
Well there are some prety bad melee weapons
rigid sky
Just try to pick something that at least makes sense
frail pasture
but overall almsot everything is good on psyker
rigid sky
like, don't take Wildfire if you don't have any sources of soulblaze etc
strong gulch
Also, smite can't crit. So taking crit depended node if you main smite won't help you.
idk what weapons are being used
sturdy oar
guess now just kill shit
marble crater
"Play what you like, unless you are actively trolling or grieving"
rigid sky
"Play what you like, unless you are *actively* trolling or grieving"
and do try to at least think about what you're doing
Everybody should do their own build analysis eventually
strong gulch
Well there are some prety bad melee weapons
what you like.
Even blazing spirit illisi. 😭
frail pasture
And talking about crit, Purg staff cant 'crit' in the sense it does more damage, its crits just apply an extra stack of soulblaze
rigid sky
Use a guide for getting started if you like
frail pasture
So crit damage does nothing for purg staff
rigid sky
So crit damage does nothing for purg staff
Crit damage perk is worthless on everything honestly
sturdy oar
game keeps saying i have talents to spend but i dont
rigid sky
because of how it's calculated
frail pasture
what you like.
Even blazing spirit illisi. 😭
Ive done this, its not too awful lolol
rigid sky
Crit chance is great on purgatus though
rigid sky
Ive done this, its not too awful lolol
Illisi's great even with only 1 blessing it turns out
sturdy oar
where did i get this moebian cosmetic stuff
strong gulch
Ive done this, its not too awful lolol
flame tickler
rigid sky
where did i get this moebian cosmetic stuff
congrats, you're a scab now
frail pasture
Bruh I just like soulblazing things
rigid sky
enjoy your tumours
rigid sky
I love purg staff too
Blazing Spirit Trauma, man. It's like a drug.
sturdy oar
congrats, you're a scab now
huh
marble crater
My favorite blaze trauma moment so far was someone in the team writing "blaze trauma, hell yeah" in the middle of burning a mixed horde
strong gulch
Noice.
I remember one time I was blaze trauma-ing and someone was yelling "YEAH!!! FIRE!!!" I think they were high af.
sturdy oar
it feels much better playing psyker than zealot
marble crater
I remember one time I was blaze trauma-ing and someone was yelling "YEAH!!! FIRE...
Yes 
rigid sky
it feels much better playing psyker than zealot
Man, picking my favourite Darktide class is honestly impossible for me.
Love 'em all.
Love multiple ways of building all of them too
stuck sinew
Yeah I'd get bored if I just played one class
Though psyker does always feel like a power trip
rigid sky
It's so delightfully unstable
The very embodiment of this meme https://images.app.goo.gl/VQCBvFdtTvqqNY5v6
OK well fuck you for not embedding google
Heaven forbid I can just Google an image and link it here
Karkers.
stuck sinew
I usually copy/paste the image instead
stuck sinew
But yeah when a game is going well you feel untouchable
marble crater
And then you take a sip of water and lose half your health from two poxwalkers
stuck sinew
Exactly
marble crater
I play all classes but psyker is definitely my favorite and most played
supple dock
And then you take a sip of water and lose half your health from two poxwalkers
got silent bombed by like 4 of them around a tight corner once
marble crater
rigid sky
And then you take a sip of water and lose half your health from two poxwalkers
Or all of it from 2 bruisers
strong gulch
Alright. Got a freshly crafted terrible build to try out.
supple dock
is it uniquely terrible at least?
rigid sky
This is why I advocate for taking all the toughness regeneration nodes you can afford tbh
vestal fulcrum
I’m expecting the Disrupt Destiny with Smite kind of terrible
strong gulch
You know how blazing void is bad? That with tranfer peril and SG.
vestal fulcrum
You know how blazing void is bad? That with tranfer peril and SG.
Oh that sounds fun
rigid sky
You want to have as few windows for when a melee hit can actually breach as ppssible
If you aren't at 100% toughness you are in the danger zone
supple dock
man a SINGLE stray hit and you're hitstunned
marble crater
This is why I advocate for taking all the toughness regeneration nodes you can a...
I can afford two or three 
supple dock
and you will lose 4/5ths of your hp
rigid sky
Which is a roundabout way of saying, Warp Replenishment is underrated.
supple dock
warp replenishment is amazing in a horde
Just heavy special and you're max
for illisi anyways, for purg its fire
etc etc
rigid sky
Just heavy special and you're max
It's the one that grants toughness when you gain peril, I think you are thinking of soulstealer maybe?
rigid sky
Soulstealer is much better than warp replenishment
supple dock
yeeee okay
supple dock
yeah, just didn't know names. i do have all the good shit myself
rigid sky
I don't take it in every build (just due to point economy considerations), but it's one of the first luxury nodes I go to
If I can
plucky flax
Smite, Purgatus, Illisi with DD and Sciers, here I go
Best build
frail pasture
I use three of those
supple dock
illisi is all im guilty of
rigid sky
I use all of those things but not at the same time.
sturdy oar
smite is so nice dude
just freezing a whole wave and letting the team kill them
especially when one dude is carrying an objective
marble crater
As you level up and get more options to deal with waves you will smite less and use it more for emergencies, because you can just kill the wave with your melee or staff instead
supple dock
Smite does deal kinda okay damage though
sturdy oar
its kinda nice early lvl tho
marble crater
That's why I said as you level up
sturdy oar
hey is there a yellow key node that is taken more than others or do people usually just use one, like how zealots only really use one
marble crater
Middle one for cooldown is used the most
marble crater
Right one on specific builds, left one for the penance
strong gulch
Welp. There were 2 purg psykers. So RIP my baby warpfire damage.
sturdy oar
what is warp damage anyway
vestal fulcrum
what is warp damage anyway
Any damage from your staves, blitzes and force sword special attacks
And soulblaze also
marble crater
Magic 
rigid sky
what is warp damage anyway
Anything spooky.
supple dock
hellraiser 2022 is fuckin weak wtf is this
but I haven't watched all of it yet, so we'll see if that holds
sturdy oar
hows this for assail?
vestal fulcrum
It’s relatively insignificant
It may be relevant on a Scrier’s Gaze ability based build
But otherwise it interferes with your typical Psyker peril loop
strong gulch
wtf
sturdy oar
yeah no fucking clue
mental grail
joined mid game
two fucking plague ogryns
I somehow knew it was Hab Dreyko before I even looked at the top
sturdy oar
lmaoo
near wyvern
is battle meditation bad?
There is only one real reason to take battle meditation, and that is extending your smite. And for that to be effective, you need to access the bottom of the tree, preferably max level, because smite does nothing on its own.
near wyvern
joined mid game
two fucking plague ogryns
Was the zealot speed running? The only way to trigger double monstrosity at lower levels is to run through two triggers...
mystic burrow
lmao, i unlocked the chest piece cosmetics at 4.5k penance points and the game crashes
quartz barn
a near clutch when everyone is near lvl 20?
sturdy oar
Was the zealot speed running? The only way to trigger double monstrosity at lowe...
no clue i joined as everyone died
yay i have a voidstrike now
is there an easy way to get cliffjumper
flat nexus
Was the zealot speed running? The only way to trigger double monstrosity at lowe...
Could have been i ii veg
supple dock
yeah no fucking clue
It CAN happen because boss triggers are generally clustered but I've never seen it happen on lower difficulty
quartz barn
mk4 for general use, mk5 if you're sophisticated
quartz barn
you mostly want it for the dodge distance anyway
supple dock
yee, but the strikedowns
sturdy oar
so mk4 then
quartz barn
so it comes down to moveset pref
sturdy oar
huh...
quartz barn
- you dont really melee a lot as psyker anyway lmao
supple dock
bullshit I get right in that shit
sturdy oar
same
slate oasis
I prefer mk4. the heavy poke attack hits like a truck
mental grail
I pounce into melee as a psyker
quartz barn
wait heavy poke is mk5
mental grail
Best way to save ammo as a gunker
quartz barn
mk4 is downward slash
mental grail
wait heavy poke is mk5
Yes.
sturdy oar
so neither is best
mental grail
slate oasis
opposite. 4 is the poke moveset, 5 is the slash moveset
mental grail
sturdy oar
im assuming mk2 is bad
quartz barn
also if you wanna tech you can charge heavy into special
marble crater
I have yet to see a strikedown on the mk4, it's all pokes
quartz barn
special to cancel the heavy recovery
slate oasis
yeah the mk4 heavy and special are both pokes
sturdy oar
ive only tried mk2
flat nexus
What weapon is this
sturdy oar
soulstealer on dueling sword?
mental grail
What weapon is this
MK5 dueling sword
marble crater
soulstealer on dueling sword?
They don't have funny magic, so soulstealer wouldn't trigger on the sword
sturdy oar
fair
hidden gorge
So did i miss something or did the sith lighting ability get a nerf.
I remember it killing enemies and not just stun locking them.
vestal fulcrum
So did i miss something or did the sith lighting ability get a nerf.
It was only buffed recently to better facilitate its damage output with Empowered Psionics keystone. Why?
jovial juniper
Right!?!?
hidden gorge
It was only buffed recently to better facilitate its damage output with Empowere...
I only recently started using it.
Very effective against hordes though.
Im suprised it isnt used often as it makes the psyker great at crowd control.
jovial juniper
That's funny, I've seen it being used frequently before the buff
marble crater
It's not needed most of the time
jovial juniper
I guess online experiences shenanigans
slate oasis
there was a bug when it first got put in the game where you could channel it forever and actually kill stuff, but normally it's always done low damage
jovial juniper
The blaze shriek smite combo with EP might go hard
slate oasis
I find it's really handy for protecting people when rezzing or doing the hacking minigames, but otherwise I almost never use it
hidden gorge
It's not needed most of the time
Its handy in a pinch when 5 shield bearing ogryns charge your group.
marble crater
Yes, then it's great, but that's the exception rather than the rule
mental grail
Its handy in a pinch when 5 shield bearing ogryns charge your group.
That's rare tbh
vestal fulcrum
Im suprised it isnt used often as it makes the psyker great at crowd control.
It’s a sleep inducing tool
hidden gorge
Its just a really good oh shit where getting swarmed and where spread out tool.
vestal fulcrum
Fighting incapacitated enemies is not very fun in my view
hidden gorge
I prefer sniping.
Im one of the few people that uses the krieger lasgun.
The name of which i forgot.
mental grail
Lucius
hidden gorge
Speaking of veterans. a group of nothing but veterans is insanely fun.
Played with a group consisting of two plasma guns. one autogun and a lasgun.
Terrifyingly efficient combination
mental grail
Ammo wise?
hidden gorge
yup
plasma for anything heavy. lasgun for long range annoyances. autogun for everything else.
cosmic sigil
I did a 4 bolters (2 vets, 2 zealots) in elite resistance back in the days of og pinning fire... Well
It was brutally efficient
near wyvern
It's better but still not enough. You need Venting Shreik to get most out of it and cannot really use the LMB utility on the smite. You should get either huge boost in elite damage or a great reduction to smite peril cost while using an EP charge to make it worth it.
hidden gorge
It was brutally efficient
People forget that standing in a firing line and shooting can work really well.
cosmic sigil
True
hidden gorge
Its the same vein when you have a full on ogryn party and they all have stub guns.
pray
cosmic sigil
Even 2 lol
small valve
I love playing ogryn
hidden gorge
Fun to play with two ogryns. Not as much when your the only ogryn.
jovial juniper
One shovelling Crushers is fun
hidden gorge
Its why I struggle with the psyker so much. Its kinda like the only support class.
small valve
Four ogryns...
hidden gorge
Hehehe the best
dusk void
Its why I struggle with the psyker so much. Its kinda like the only support clas...
If you really think about it, any class can be a support
dusk void
Four ogryns... <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
How good is the ogryn class? I haven’t played it in a hot minute
hidden gorge
I mean yeah the zealot with a flamer and the praying aura ability is a perfect example.
small valve
How good is the ogryn class? I haven’t played it in a hot minute
Good damage output, good defensive capabilities. On par with zealot for last-minute rescues I'd say
dusk void
I mean yeah the zealot with a flamer and the praying aura ability is a perfect e...
I wouldn’t call my psyker a support psyker, I run trauma, shield, assial, chainsword, and EP with true aim and soulblaze
rich jolt
How good is the ogryn class? I haven’t played it in a hot minute
Good. Worst class out of all of them but fatshark did a great job at putting all the classes on par with each other
jovial juniper
How good is the ogryn class? I haven’t played it in a hot minute
Fun to learn, even better to master
dusk void
Fun to learn, even better to master
I might give the ogryn a try tonight
hidden gorge
I mean ogryn is the worse class but its also the most fun one.
If you get what i mean.
small valve
Ogryn is made to soak up fire and keep others alive
hidden gorge
Its the size redem.
You get hit easily and if you dont build around that it can get difficult
small valve
Really wish Ogryn didn't take as much slowdown from getting shot
dusk void
I feel like the psyker class is the hardest class to master. It’s my main class but I still have slight problems with it
small valve
I'd disagree, I think psyker is pretty easy to master
dusk void
“Just don’t get hit” - big tip when playing psyker. Also peril management is key
But I do love the many passive toughness regenerations that the psyker has
narrow herald
I feel like the psyker class is the hardest class to master. It’s my main class ...
Nah just be like the ones I pub with, use smite for everything 😎
Psyker is easy if you realize that all you need to do is just CC everything
dusk void
Nah just be like the ones I pub with, use smite for everything 😎
I stopped using smite because I wanted to master the mechanics of the game, not be lazy and melt hordes. Although, will trauma and smite work well together with EP?
narrow herald
Smite is the most overestimated ability in the game
99% of people use it wrong
GUYS I CCED THE HORDE KILL IT
my brother and christ jud KILL THE HORDE
marble crater
I stopped using smite because I wanted to master the mechanics of the game, not ...
Trauma and smite cover the same roles, you should pick BB or assail instead
ionic sorrel
I stopped using smite because I wanted to master the mechanics of the game, not ...
Trauma and smite is how I got this.
marble crater
dusk void
Trauma and smite is how I got this.
Did you happen to use venting shriek with it?
small valve
We love venting shriek
marble crater
Venting shriek is love
plucky flax
I'd disagree, I think psyker is pretty easy to master
What's hard then?
small valve
What's hard then?
iunno I have trouble with being effective as vet
plucky flax
Equip shout and press f. Literally can't lose.
ionic sorrel
Did you happen to use venting shriek with it?
Yup, my trauma and sword also apply soul blaze on crit.
plucky flax
Bonus point for using p sword and p gun
dusk void
Trauma and smite is how I got this.
You’re making me feel like a noob with my psyker character. I mainly play on auric heresy but I guess I suck a lot 😂
ionic sorrel
Nah, you'll get there eventually. You just gotta fail a lot and learn from those times.
dusk void
I have about 400+ hours into the game. I can do a standard damnation mission, but not an auric damnation mission
I feel like a noob compared to everyone else here
marble crater
I'm sure most people can't do damnation
People who play a lot or are more serious about the game will naturally be more likely to be active in the discord
plucky flax
I'm sure most people can't do damnation
That's why I'm in sedition.
marble crater
potent echo
can they add something low int sedition?
dusk void
I'm sure most people can't do damnation
Auric heresy feels like damnation, but with more awful spawns. That’s the reason why I play auric heresy
marble crater
I'm surprised you find groups for auric heresy, I would expect people to go from damnation to auric damnation, auric heresy feels like a weird in between difficulty
dusk void
I'm surprised you find groups for auric heresy, I would expect people to go from...
It still is a weird transition between normal damnation to auric heresy. It’s more chaotic on auric heresy than it is on normal damnation. But I still find people getting downed on auric heresy and I’m the last one standing and need to clutch it for the mission
Needless to say, auric heresy is my comfort playing difficulty with the HISTG modifier
marble crater
If that's your comfort difficulty then you don't have a reason to feel like a noob 
upper sun
can they add something low int sedition?
hell yeah
malice is so comfy
i can just walk up to shotgunners
do melee 24/7
and never lose more than 40hp all game
subtle swift
does enfeeble also boost the smites damage itself? or does it just boost team damage only
potent echo
both
subtle swift
ty
upper sun
it should yeah
subtle swift
yeah wasnt sure haha
marble crater
Now you can deal 11 damage per tick, instead of 10
upper sun
hell yeah
subtle swift
i was thinking of stacking that on emp smite which is 200% now so 210
marble crater
jovial juniper
Stonks
marble crater
Why
marble crater
I will buy it in the hopes the crafting update let's us salvage things like this 
sturdy oar
whats the dueling sword mk5s dump stat?
marble crater
Defense
sturdy oar
dueling sword + voidstrike?
upper sun
can absolutely work but i personally much rather have something with better clear
marble crater
sturdy oar
but i dont have a good nomanus atm and dont have resources to make one so ill stick with my voidstrike
upper sun
mb g
marble crater
Guns are better while leveling, staves start to get good with higher levels and higher stats
potent echo
marble crater
But surge works I guess
sturdy oar
voidstrike is fun
supple dock
But surge works I guess
Surge and purgatus are probably the best to level with, that and guns but who plays space wizard to shoot
rigid sky
Guns are better while leveling, staves start to get good with higher levels and ...
and then guns are even better once you hit 30 too lol
rigid sky
Surge and purgatus are probably the best to level with, that and guns but who pl...
Right side psykers represent yo
near wyvern
<:throwing:991349984182161559>
near wyvern
Surge and purgatus are probably the best to level with, that and guns but who pl...
I do
Except when I try harded my storm survivor
upper sun
more number = more better we all know that
rigid sky
Define better
Better than guns as a pre-30 psyker
Not better than staves overall
Just saying that getting DD/SG boosts gunker by a huge amount too
At that point staves are mostly getting their extra max level power from modifiers and blessings compared with talent points
supple dock
Though the inherent less usage of ammo is generally a pretty big boon to the team
upper sun
tbh
near wyvern
Better than guns as a pre-30 psyker
Yes, definitely better for levelling cause most staves are weapons of mass destruction and all of them get penalties with low stats
upper sun
i think the game spawns ammo based on the weapons people bring
near wyvern
i think the game spawns ammo based on the weapons people bring
Doesn't seem to be the case
upper sun
voices told me
near wyvern
Maybe it was just a dream
sturdy oar
is there a trick for cliffjumper
vestal fulcrum
Hanger. It’s cliffhanger.
Lure horde enemies to ledge, stack some peril, Venting Shriek at them at an angle
upper sun
someone did it on the ledge in the uhhh final section to oblivium something
supple dock
is there a trick for cliffjumper
desert levels during the scaffolding/higher housing sections
plucky flax
Levitate into the air and force push suckers out of the map.
marble crater
It wouldn't be a cliffhanger question if I didn't post the video https://youtu.be/SiZp4X8YQww
upper sun
tbh youll eventually get it with random play
supple dock
Yeah, just use venting shriek and you will get it naturally
upper sun
the only 2 that i never got were the BB 4 in a row and SG 40 kills ones so far
(i never play BB and SG)
plucky flax
Tru gazer bad
upper sun
no i just refuse to aim
marble crater
Got the BB one by being a pro
upper sun
i got the EP one by playing malice shock troop and brain bursting enemies in melee range
also the satalite map in archivum something is perfect for that shit if you have a team that is willing to let you farm elites
you get 4 shotgunners then 4 gunners on each side after the elevator arrives NON STOP
sturdy oar
i was last one alive, it was so rough, plague ogryn bumped two off the bridge, the lvl 1 dude didnt know to revive them or me, they died i lived, then he went off a mile ahead and didnt fight the ogryn with me, he died to fucking normal basic mobs, and then i said fuck this and jumped off the bridge lol...
marble crater
EP smite, pox hound waves
upper sun
i refuse to play hounds without purge or smite 
rotund fable
brunt sold me THIS wonderful thing...
broken carbon
i was last one alive, it was so rough, plague ogryn bumped two off the bridge, t...
malice behaviors
sturdy oar
sedation
marble crater
brunt sold me THIS wonderful thing...
Turret gameplay
sturdy oar
no uprising my bad
i did uprising cause i was almost lvl 15 and wanted something quick to get me there so i can get Illinis sword but no haha
broken carbon
lmfao
upper sun
its okay levelling in this game is hell
broken carbon
illisi my beloved
sturdy oar
illisi my bad
broken carbon
its okay levelling in this game is hell
its why ive yet to make an ogryn at 750 hours lmfao
rotund fable
Hadron turned it into this...
upper sun
like i dont care about the no talents as much as being forced to use weapons with 10% damage
upper sun
Hadron turned it into this...
mom said no dclaw
sturdy oar
isnt the best devils claw the mk4 one
broken carbon
like i dont care about the no talents as much as being forced to use weapons wit...
yeah with psyker its especially rough, staves suck at low levels
sturdy oar
idk if dclaws are the same for every class, thats my zealot knowledge
broken carbon
dclaws are the same yeah
sturdy oar
yeah i read mk 4 was the best
marble crater
Shared weapons are all the same
upper sun
i only really tried mk4 it was nice
broken carbon
i havent used a dclaw since i was leveling up my zealot lmfao
broken carbon
on psyker?
upper sun
on purge staff
broken carbon
keystoneless can work on vet but psyker i dont really know
upper sun
i tried playing EP and then i realized i'm not using brain burst
broken carbon
EP is just really good all around
it makes BB actually good
but even with smite n assail its good
upper sun
TRUE AIM PURGE YES
upper sun
nah it doesnt hit weak spots it goes center mass
supple dock
application does crit though
upper sun
ye
rotund fable
right, It does not proc weakspot
plucky flax
upper sun
ye center mass thats why flak goes in all fields
ideal purge would be flak 4 with flak 4 and two nexus blessings
rotund fable
Eh, I run with this purg... it's very fun.
plucky flax
No nexus.
supple dock
no nexus, otherwise fine
upper sun
ye nexus is kinda more important on purge
upper sun
sibling pls leave
plucky flax
You can run with it, but nexus is still better than flurry.
rotund fable
It is, yes... but this is more fun for lower difficulty games
hence why the changable perk is flurry
most of my higher difficulty games have me rocking this staff
upper sun
did u let skudie mod ur weapons?
supple dock
LMAO
marble crater
most of my higher difficulty games have me rocking this staff
Mine is better
supple dock
I'm not laughing at the staff don't worry, but nexus is generally more important
rotund fable
did u let skudie mod ur weapons?
I made it before i knew all that about modifying weapons, and just havent rolled a staff with better stats sadly.
upper sun
this took me 14 attemps
rotund fable
this weapon is in the same boat, where i made it before i knew all that much about weapon modification
upper sun
nah this fine
supple dock
this took me 14 attemps
only 14? Damn, you actually have 0 need to upgrade it from there
upper sun
only 14? Damn, you actually have 0 need to upgrade it from there
yea
ive only really been chasing the illusive god roll surge
with zero luck
supple dock
I had only recently gotten my god roll surge lmao
rotund fable
nah this fine
the perk it had before i changed the thing to carapace was maniac...
I got the gun right after i hit level 30 after freshly downloading the game... and me being a newbie who didnt know any better, thought unarmored was the best perk in the game because "hey, that guy doesnt look like he's wearing armor".
supple dock
now is illisi, though I don't know what perks to put on it
upper sun
most psykers stop rolling right before they get their god roll surge
supple dock
most psykers stop rolling right before they get their god roll surge
the good'ol gambler's fallacy
upper sun
i was smart enough to not buy any weapons when levelling or collect any plasteel
this way i never ruined anything except the emperor gifts i insta sold without checking
supple dock
pretty much the same, but it's not like I had a real choice in the matter early on
upper sun
i have about 100 hours on malice with a recon
rotund fable
... well then... this is indeed a mission reward...
upper sun
not bad
supple dock
that one can work
rotund fable
barrage to surge and infested to... whatever...?
upper sun
ye
supple dock
no, but isn't it still on a headweakspotshot crit?
rotund fable
Melk... you are being suspiciously accomodating of what i am trying to find... are you planning something?
upper sun
ayo
supple dock
Melk... you are being suspiciously accomodating of what i am trying to find... a...
This works beautifully
sturdy oar
hey do yall have a talent build for illisi?
rotund fable
More or less just swapping out both perks for the melk staff i presume?
supple dock
So if you're running illisi you have the staff options of mostly void and surge
You don't build for just one weapon, you build it for a general playstyle AND weapon choices, both of them at once
sturdy oar
im levelling with gun for now since staff feels weak while levelling
heres what i have
upper sun
id use assail for levelling its kinda better than most low level guns
supple dock
Assail is great, Smite's augmentations are useless
sturdy oar
ah alright thx
supple dock
so if running smite don't take augments, but you already have illisi so you won't really need smite to cc hordes
assail is just another way to deal with medium level threats and below at a mid range
sturdy oar
supple dock
I would take..
maleific momentum if you're using gun
Mind in Motion is fucking useless because you can just dodge slide forward then quell to keep your movespeed
unless you need it for a specific node
in which case that just sucks and you gotta deal with it
sturdy oar
damn i saw this build earlier here and it used it so i thought it was good https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b782f2a-2bd2-49ac-abd8-0235e80bae51/surge-ds4-vent-psyker
well i kinda need mind in motion to get to seers presence
supple dock
I think instead of empathic evasion take soulstealer?
marble crater
The build is good, that one specific talent, is not
cunning plinth
hi, just came back to the game again
supple dock
well i kinda need mind in motion to get to seers presence
yeah, mind in motion sucks ass and you're stuck with it lmao ah well
cunning plinth
why do people say that DD is insane now, and do you still only run it basically with gunker and void staff?
marble crater
Also stacks drop one by one now
cunning plinth
ok, but because its mostly for precision damage you would still only ruin this with a gun or with voidstaff right?
or did that change
rigid sky
Yes, definitely better for levelling cause most staves are weapons of mass destr...
I meant more along the lines of, staves get a huge power boost at level 30, but so do guns
like it's not like gun psyker at 30 isn't a massive step up from low level gun psyker
rigid sky
ok, but because its mostly for precision damage you would still only ruin this w...
Imo correct.
supple dock
isn't lingering influence broken?
rigid sky
It's weakspot and crit damage mostly, you want weapons that use both well.
which means some guns, and voidstrike.
supple dock
the 4s > 10s buff
upper galleon
isn't lingering influence broken?
the buff icon is, the buff itself isn't
rigid sky
the 4s > 10s buff
I hear it does work, it's just the icon bug
cunning plinth
Imo correct.
ok, is there a real assail angle or is it classico gunker build with gaze and DD
cunning plinth
somehow i always found gunker relatively annoying to play
rigid sky
ok, is there a real assail angle or is it classico gunker build with gaze and DD
Take assail with them too tbh
it helps with ammo efficiency on guns
voidstrike it's more optional but I'd still take assail because it's good at hitting enemies that are moving
cunning plinth
Take assail with them too tbh
is gaze still semi mandatory for gun builds?
rigid sky
since voidstrike can be difficult to tag laterally moving targets
cunning plinth
they didnt change that right
near drift
somehow i always found gunker relatively annoying to play
need to smoke crack beforehand
rigid sky
is gaze still semi mandatory for gun builds?
You can totally make it work with the other abilities... but I question why you would want to lol
cunning plinth
need to smoke crack beforehand
it feels like that
supple dock
is gaze still semi mandatory for gun builds?
other way around imo, but yeah
rigid sky
gun psyker is set apart from other gun builds by being monstrously powerful with all your multipliers you can stack to the sky
and scrier's gaze is a big part of that
but some people go shriek with it
cunning plinth
ok, shame, i dont hate bowling staff but its a bit annoying to play compared to the others imo, not because i cant hit stuff, but because im lazy and predicting laterally moving basic dregs that would give me a stack crosses the line
rigid sky
or use an illisi to charge up
sturdy oar
yeah, mind in motion sucks ass and you're stuck with it lmao ah well
maybe if i went brain rupture but i wouldnt get the best out of it cause im not lvl 30
rigid sky
ok, shame, i dont hate bowling staff but its a bit annoying to play compared to ...
take assail and use the VS mostly for melee elites and stationary ranged enemies
cunning plinth
gun psyker is set apart from other gun builds by being monstrously powerful with...
its mostly that gaze feels like huge overkill for anything but monstrosities when you got 15 DD and a columnus
supple dock
maybe if i went brain rupture but i wouldnt get the best out of it cause im not ...
nah the build you have is fine, I have my doubts about empathic evasion since it doesn't look like you're really focusing crits
rigid sky
its mostly that gaze feels like huge overkill for anything but monstrosities whe...
Look at a corridor near the end of like magistrati oubliette where there's like a 10-row thick stack of shooters and hordies
and then see how much gaze helps there too
Crowd dps is important too
supple dock
@sturdy oar So I'd suggest getting rid of empathic evasion and grabbing soulstealer, so when you're in a ranged fight you can pull out assail and get toughness back
plucky flax
is gaze still semi mandatory for gun builds?
No I use creeping flames with gun.
cunning plinth
maybe i have an ammo economy aversion to unload the primary rifle into hordes
cunning plinth
No I use creeping flames with gun.
sturdy oar
nah the build you have is fine, I have my doubts about empathic evasion since it...
well at least im actually learning about what im building, id just find builds for zealot and not ask about them, i feel like i know more about psyker already
supple dock
Interest plays a big role in learning
supple dock
o7 looks good
sturdy oar
or well this now
cunning plinth
did they actually nerf the columnus in the last 90 days or is it still god?
sturdy oar
should i get that node between the two there btw?
supple dock
what's it?
sturdy oar
toughness damage reduction
supple dock
Hmmm if you have extra spaces it'd be better to grab raw toughness
But this build doesn't run kinetic deflector which is kinda eugh
sturdy oar
where is kinetic deflector?
supple dock
on the tree to DD
sturdy oar
im gonna be asking about my build more and more as i level
i wont be following a build i think
rigid sky
maybe i have an ammo economy aversion to unload the primary rifle into hordes
On hi5stg sometimes it's a horde of specials and elites lol
supple dock
i wont be following a build i think
Follow a build, tweak it after imo. It gives you room to play and learn what you prefer
marble crater
did they actually nerf the columnus in the last 90 days or is it still god?
Not nerfed, still good
sturdy oar
Follow a build, tweak it after imo. It gives you room to play and learn what you...
yeah, i think ill still ask here though, yall have knowledge and can tell me about stuff
sturdy oar
damn...
rigid sky
There's not really such a thing as a best build in this game, somehow
supple dock
That's actually the lineup I used to beat hard mode twins 😄
sturdy oar
no but i mean get more knowledge
rigid sky
It's actually quite well balanced for how many choices there are
sturdy oar
so i can make a better build for myself
rigid sky
Yeah, that's what I mean
sturdy oar
thats why im asking yall
supple dock
so i can make a better build for myself
Yeah. Learn how things work from someone else's perspective, then once you're comfortable, make your own choices
rigid sky
Building from the ground up is actually a great approach here
supple dock
I think the other way is better
rigid sky
Just use our advice to avoid hidden pitfalls
supple dock
Because you're learning what other people say are good, and make judgements from there
rigid sky
And to make sure you aren't leaving any vulnerabilities or redundancies
supple dock
The reason I say that is because a lot of people can get really overwhelmed from all the choices tbh
rigid sky
And you aren't falling into the trap of selecting terrible blessings lol
rigid sky
The reason I say **that** is because a lot of people can get really overwhelmed ...
Tbh psyker and ogryn are a bit easier imo
supple dock
But yeah, if you have builds that you're following and you wanna learn about them feel free to ask @sturdy oar
rigid sky
It's zealot and veteran which are more awkward
supple dock
Yeah, at least the staves are straightforward
rigid sky
I mean, talent-wise
supple dock
aaah
yeah psyker is very interconnected
You can get anything from almost anywhere, and all your toughness regen is at the top which is wild
rigid sky
The biggest trap nodes we have really are Kinetic flayer and Solidity imo
supple dock
mind in motion too
rigid sky
Eh, kinda
supple dock
It's not hard to slide forward
rigid sky
That tends to be a travel node
supple dock
like yeah I understand you're forced to get it
rigid sky
Rather than one taken with intention
supple dock
Doesn't mean it isn't ass
rigid sky
It is but I'm talking about outright trap nodes
supple dock
hmm. fair enough
rigid sky
Like I see people dip 4 points to get Solidity sometimes
supple dock
eesh
rigid sky
When Solidity is just a travel tax node to get to warp charges
Actually, inner tranquility is another one that's often a trap node
On the subject of warp charges
supple dock
Ooh yeah it is
The constant toughness from essence harvest is way too good to pass up
rigid sky
The more sources of toughness-go-up that you have, especially ones that activate at different times, the better
supple dock
No stipulations no stacking required just straight up toughness regen
rigid sky
damn illisa sword is like evi it feels sooo good to use
It's so much better than evis for crowds, it just comes on a more fragile class
Presuming you mean the XV anyway
supple dock
The entirety of the psyker is: You have an answer for every enemy, every scenario, every moment, true. But you die. Fast. You get hit stun locked. Fast. One fuckup could mean you exploding or you going down to a handful of trash mobs
So you have to juggle enemies, allies (keep up slowpoke), the peril meter, and making sure every step of the way you aren't about to get smacked into 1/5th of your hp
rigid sky
Genuinely, one bruiser lovetap on damnation depletes your entire toughness bar lmao
fucking trash enemies
they're honestly more dangerous than ragers for me
sturdy oar
i meant mk2 evi
supple dock
Considering switching from a health curio to a +3 stam curio
so I'll be tough > tough > stam
I don't really care about health curios because if you get caught you shouldn't be alive anyways, best to prevent it from happening with the stam
rigid sky
i meant mk2 evi
Man that one is awkward lol, but better on cleave if you're good. Illisi still better yet, though.
sturdy oar
it has the same moveset as mk2
but illisi is like it, but faster and feels stronger
it feels like a zealot weapon
like a dclaw on crack
supple dock
So if you're gonna be playing high peril builds
Force swords are great at keeping your peril at a high level passively
cunning plinth
nvm, my DD is still bugged somehow
sturdy oar
its so fun
cunning plinth
i never get stacks, only the short movement burts
supple dock
Apparently it's working fine
Just the DD visuals are fucked
So it won't show the stacks on your bar but you still get them
sturdy oar
dd?
cunning plinth
its weird that it only happens on the gunker build
if i use DD with voidstaff i still see it
one would imagine a display bug is easy to fix if its just that
supple dock
I don't have the answers, just parroting ¯_(ツ)_/¯
supple dock
Knife is used solely for mobility, with a decent way to kill medium threats, but mostly the mobility
supple dock
They're...fine builds, they do fine
marble crater
Psyker usually doesn't use daggers
sturdy oar
what about those axes
supple dock
psyker normally uses ds4 or illisi/demios usually
The other weapons are for a change of pace mostly
sturdy oar
non meta fun basically
supple dock
mmhm
marble crater
supple dock
could be worse, could be ogryn
ogryn is the strongest archetype at the moment
in terms of raw damage application
marble crater
And not dying
supple dock
that too
sturdy oar
what staff is best for illisa?
supple dock
void, trauma, surge
sturdy oar
ogryn is the strongest archetype at the moment
i meant like amount of weapons and stuff
which blessings am i looking for on void
supple dock
which blessings am i looking for on void
Surge and Warp Nexus
rocky osprey
just saw this. one of y'all is a god
sturdy oar
damn mine has sustained fire
supple dock
just saw this. one of y'all is a god
monster
supple dock
damn mine has sustained fire
I believe surge is only up to level 3 blessing?
sturdy oar
havve have to grind th is one out
void trauma or surge... hmmm surge maybe
my surge has terryfying barriage
marble crater
As Kat would say, surge and illisi is comfy
supple dock
that's what i run. very very comfy
sturdy oar
my trauma has flurry FUCK
supple dock
trauma you want nexus and blazing spirit
sturdy oar
can i steal the flurry and put it on my surge or does it have to be the same weapon
marble crater
Don't worry about staff blessings until you are lvl 30
supple dock
^
Just roll with what you've got, the additions to your damage/utility aren't really felt without a proper talent setup anyways
marble crater
And no, the staves don't share blessings
plucky flax
Don't play trauma pre 30. When you hit 30 also don't play it.
supple dock
marble crater
Why?
sturdy oar
3 fucking zealots SOB
marble crater
sturdy oar
i have zealot trauma
supple dock
i...
? 3 zealots and a psyker is fine
All it means is that there's more pressure on you to deal with ranged
plucky flax
sturdy oar
you wouldnt get it
plucky flax
Pretty unhealthy habit but okie.
marble crater
...ation
supple dock
Like as 1 psyker and 3 zealots I can only imagine it being like a drill instructor telling you to believe in god or he smacks you until you say yes
supple dock
Why low level people are so red? Xd
nothing else looks better at the time unless you have the ultranoob ™️ black outfit
plucky flax
Just be rich and wear premium skins since level 1. 
upper sun
i used the dlc monies for skins did not help me play better
also the auric carry frame is the default+red garbs
supple sedge
Dunno what you lil uns say but Ulgo wear Prison garb and am godlike
upper sun
i KNOW im gonna do zero damage when i see a dude rocking the default ass gear while screaming VACUME CAPUSLE
supple dock
lmao
marble crater
Dunno what you lil uns say but Ulgo wear Prison garb and am godlike
Because ogryn is strongest
marble crater
Playing on console is fine, other than some of the advanced shenanigans some people do here
fresh reef
i KNOW im gonna do zero damage when i see a dude rocking the default ass gear wh...
You on pc or Xbox?
upper sun
pc
patent wing
upper sun
F
dusk void
F
supple dock
F
rigid sky
Psyker usually doesn't use daggers
It's like the #4 weapon I see good psykers use tbh
Most psykers with a knife I see end up being actual gods
dusk void
Most psykers with a knife I see end up being actual gods
Have you ever played with a chainsword psyker?
marble crater
It's like the #4 weapon I see good psykers use tbh
I have seen maybe two psykers with a knife
rigid sky
Have you ever played with a chainsword psyker?
Funnily enough no, but I imagine it's another very solid choice
I feel like Illisi steals its thunder
dusk void
Never had a decent Illisi sword, but great chainsword and dueling IV sword
dusk void
Funnily enough no, but I imagine it's another very solid choice
I use it for monstrosity damage, and trauma my way through hordes
But I feel as if I’m lacking with my melee weapon
sturdy oar
just did the penance where you kill an elite by exploding yourself
on purpose of course
supple dock
just did the penance where you kill an elite by exploding yourself
on purpose of...
I couldn't finish the inital one where you had to blow up 3 at once, but I did get the 1 one by accident
sturdy oar
how tf you get the one where you push 7 off a cliff at once
queen trout
I use a chainsword on my trauma staff build. Let's you get a rev attack on ogryns safely and easily after knocking them down
upper sun
how tf you get the one where you push 7 off a cliff at once
venting next to an area with a steep fall
maybe the one with the bridge or oblivium in the final section
queen trout
how tf you get the one where you push 7 off a cliff at once
There's that one espionage mission where you upload false info or something. At the end segment where your hacking a terminal and they charge you over 2 bridges
dusk void
venting next to an area with a steep fall
Smite them off 😂
remote bloom
🤨
sturdy oar
venting next to an area with a steep fall
venting?
man i think id have to do it in a private game
with help
marble crater
quartz barn
actually not bad
marble crater
It's the Chasm Station assassination mission
quartz barn
aoe cc near a ledge without killing them
sturdy oar
the problem is my team killing them before i can tho
quartz barn
i got it done in one of the hourglass missions, at the docking bay area
sturdy oar
not the blessings i want but
quartz barn
regardless i still dont see how people think that penance is easy
either its very easy or borderline impossible like what
supple dock
I did that penance by accident
marble crater
Hmm 
supple dock
not the blessings i want but
right now higher raw stats are gonna go a lot further than the right perks/blessings
sturdy oar
ah yes, the penance build
marble crater
sturdy oar
well its not supossed to be good
remote bloom
I'd suggesting hitting 30 before going after penances
upper sun
me with EP BB and double wall
supple dock
Hmm <:inspect:959170183828758549>
this is actually pretty good huh
sturdy oar
cant stop me
upper sun
seriously thanks to whoever suggested that
sturdy oar
me with EP BB and double wall
ep bb?
fluid aspen
supple dock
empowered psionics / brain burst
upper sun
<:brkSmadge:1124311509028323393>
join game ult twice leave
marble crater
this is actually pretty good huh
Yeah, think I will replace rampage with uncanny, I tried rampage and I only use it for poking crushers and muties really. Hope I don't get flamed for using riposte
supple dock
Yeah, think I will replace rampage with uncanny, I tried rampage and I only use ...
riposte is fine. and apparently rampage can actually cleave with light attacks so rampage isn't bad at all
sturdy oar
oh yeah i had a lemmings moment earlier, was up really high with a vet, he jumps off and goes down, and i think ILL SAVE YOU and jump off... and go down
tight plank
So someone once said blazing spirit is good on trauma, anyone care to explain why would it be even half decent?
vs warp flurry for example
plucky flax
It needs buffs for sure.
supple dock
hit lots of targets at once. lots of chance to crit, crits then propogate more damage
fluid aspen
Paired with Wildfire you got a pretty decent extra damage on hordes
marble crater
@tight plank this is the radius for the fire, picture courtesy of Atlus
supple dock
i know wildfire is like sleeper strong but fuck it's hard to like it
tight plank
i mean the crit chance on trauma isnt terribly high even with warp nexus, and if it does crit itll 1 shot horde mobs, and the extra dmg from the burn wont make a difference vs anyone else
rigid sky
i mean the crit chance on trauma isnt terribly high even with warp nexus, and if...
It's actually really weak on its outer radius
The Blaze part applies way wider than any actual significant base damage
And it crits often enough tbh
plucky flax
20 from nexus, 7.5 base, 4-5 from perk, 5 from talent
rigid sky
5% aura, node and perk, then nexus
plucky flax
It's 1 in 3 shots.
No you use cdr aura.
Never use crit chance aura with blaze trauma creeping flames spam.
fluid aspen
Never use crit chance aura with blaze trauma creeping flames spam.
Never use crit chance aura
ftfy
plucky flax
Yeah some people use it for some reason. Always cdr aura.
It not only helps you but the entire team.
Shout vet loves ya.
2nd strongest aura in game after ammo aura.
RIP ammo aura nerf 
marble crater
And we love vet shout
rigid sky
Never use crit chance aura with blaze trauma creeping flames spam.
I use bubble anyway
supple dock
I was gonna say is ammo aura still very usable with the 5s cooldown?
marble crater
Still better than the other auras vet has, imo
rigid sky
Kinda don't care about CDR for myself apart from psychinetic aura
tight plank
The Blaze part applies way wider than any actual significant base damage
When this thing crits it literally wont kill pox walkers from 50% hp
the burning wont kill them i mean
plucky flax
You lose so much damage using bubble with blaze trauma.
Might as well just use a different staff.
rigid sky
You lose so much damage using bubble with blaze trauma.
Yeah, it's kind of a hybrid tank psyker build
nah, you could say that about every staff though
upper sun
<@158617313258635264> this is the radius for the fire, picture courtesy of Atlus
u gotta delete this atlus has a copy right on that picture
rigid sky
Empowered Psionics Brain Rupture covers the gap
plucky flax
No say with surge, you can spam it and it's fine. Auto aim and all. But blaze trauma is designed for 6 stack from blazing spirits + 6 from creeping flames.
marble crater
u gotta delete this atlus has a copy right on that picture
He is not here to enforce it, and if nobody says anything I will be fine 
plucky flax
For the juicy 12 stacks.
rigid sky
and yeah, I know that also means no damage buff from warp siphon
upper galleon
people overvalue crit on purge, warp nexus is good because it's the 2nd best blessing for it. perk isn't worth it, and with nexus you already maintain the ranged fire avoidance talent pretty well
upper sun
and yeah, I know that also means no damage buff from warp siphon
if you think about it that way youll never ult
tight plank
Like when this blaze crit happens, the nearby poxwalkers take ~35% of their hp as dmg, while warp flurry would let me get +20% more casts off, am i missing something?
and each of those extra casts will 1 shot a bunch of enemies / stagger them
upper sun
best way to think about warp siphon is more ults
fluid aspen
Warp Siphon can get in the bin, make the spending stacks a node isntead of forced 
plucky flax
Blaze trauma confirmed bad. Pls only use rending and flurry. 
rigid sky
best way to think about warp siphon is more ults
I know, I always advocate for it with shriek as a result
that's why I don't take it with bubble
upper sun
Blaze trauma confirmed bad. Pls only use rending and flurry. <a:SadgeCry:9273465...
tbh after trying rending its ass
fluid aspen
Does Brittleness only affect where you hit or the whole body?
upper sun
brittleness isnt even that good
plucky flax
tbh after trying rending its ass
It's true. You get very little value from it.
supple dock
Does Brittleness only affect where you hit or the whole body?
pretty sure it can't weakspot right?
upper sun
errrrr
plucky flax
Maybe slightly more damage against ogryns.
fluid aspen
Isn't brittleness armor damage reduction reduction?
upper sun
i meant brittlness is ass
plucky flax
For maulers and ragers you 2 shots them anyway.
upper sun
rending is a lot more useful
supple dock
rending is just straight up damage right
plucky flax
Rending and britleness is the same. It's just brittleness is capped at 40%.
fluid aspen
Rending is armor dr ignore iirc
plucky flax
While rending is at 100%.
So that rending shockwave blessing, aka 40% brittleness, is hard capped at 40%.
Which means you don't do that crazy ass 100% rending from ds or knife.
supple dock
Oh it looks like brittleness and rending do the exact same thing? Wut
fluid aspen
So that rending shockwave blessing, aka 40% brittleness, is hard capped at 40%.
Would be nice if this was mentioned anywhere in-game 
plucky flax
Brittleness is enemy debuff. Rending is selfbuff.
But they both reduce armour so yes.
fluid aspen
Oh it looks like brittleness and rending do the exact same thing? Wut
Rending is armor pen for you, but everyone benefits from brittleness because it's on the enemy
supple dock
Rending is armor pen for you, but everyone benefits from brittleness because it'...
aaaah
plucky flax
But like I said, brittleness only goes to 40%.
supple dock
enemy buffs suck ass anyways
plucky flax
So you do a bit more damage. Not ignore carapace armour completely.
supple dock
debuffs, w/e
upper sun
idk since its aoe maybe its more useful in a mission than meat grinder
plucky flax
It's ass.
tight plank
the node In Fire Reborn, does the enemy need to die to the soulblaze itself or does it count if they die while having the dot on?
plucky flax
Die with soulblaze effect on them.
Blaze trauma can do funny memes in melee scab only in particular
upper sun
emperor bless finally a good flamer
marble crater
Nice, is that one blessing still not working?
upper sun
Blaze trauma can do funny memes in melee scab only in particular <:whatthefuck_h...
damnbruh
tight plank
Blaze trauma can do funny memes in melee scab only in particular <:whatthefuck_h...
So out of curiosity what build do u run with this and do u spam the trauma with low charge or what?
upper sun
team was not having a good time
upper sun
Nice, is that one blessing still not working?
nope!
marble crater
plucky flax
So out of curiosity what build do u run with this and do u spam the trauma with ...
Full charge.
Best creeping flames spam build
You need triple 80% damage stats though
fluid aspen
Guess which one I'm missing 
upper sun
monster
fluid aspen
marble crater
supple dock
sturdy oar
long and thick
supple dock
Just me watching as the furry tells someone else to drink water. You know you're down bad when that happens
marble crater
My trauma only has 75% damage, probably need to roll a new one
upper sun
My trauma only has 75% damage, probably need to roll a new one <:throwing:991349...
its fine
marble crater
But it could be perfect
upper sun
only the emperor is perfect
radiant frigate
Just me watching as the furry tells someone else to drink water. You know you're...
the exact moment one should reconsider their life choices
upper sun
tbh all thoughts that dont evolve killing heretics are either heretical illegal immoral or a waste of time so we should focus on the task at hand
marble crater
But yeah, I am not rolling new weapons unless I find a good base in the armory
upper sun
ye same
rolling at brunts is a big fat waste of money
anything below 300k wont get u shit
even then
marble crater
And then metal lady bricks it
upper sun
yup
dusk void
My trauma only has 75% damage, probably need to roll a new one <:throwing:991349...
Mines is at 79% Damage. That should be good enough
marble crater
I have one with 78% damage, charge and radius, but the quell speed is low
vernal temple
Question to the experts. How do I properly do the "Perilous Focus" penance? Kill 40 enemies under one Sire's Gaze
marble crater
Some people here just walked into a horde with an illisi