psyker-class

[wispy wagon]

Because you spit psyker facts but I just dont believe in these builds

[lethal lagoon]

Last patch, before the buff.

It's not the strongest build, but it takes 0 brainpower

Like it takes so little brainpower, you shouldn't play it too much

[potent echo]

Scoreboards

[lethal lagoon]

It will actively make you more dumb

[wispy wagon]

I respect that tho

[wet belfry]

you really need to include the time to complete the mission

[left basin]

MEGA STUPID

[wispy wagon]

as a Trauma enjoyer

[lethal lagoon]

I can't remembe the last time I had an extra long mission.

I also don't care that much

[wet belfry]

i think damage per minute is more interesting then total damage

[wispy wagon]

Agreed is that on the modded scoreboard?

[potent echo]

Some teams are extra slow so you get extra hordes

[wispy wagon]

I gotta get the add-ons for those again

[wispy wagon]

yeah more tickets and shit

I try to keep that hustle up know wha'msayin?

[potent echo]

I always wondered how you get 700 - 800k damage my games the highest I ever went was 600

I only reached 700 when I decided to drag down the entire team looking for secrets

[wet belfry]

c-i-vii is certainly a good option.

[lethal lagoon]

Uhh, I can probably go look up the time for the mission if you want.

[wispy wagon]

Melee onlys

or CIVIIS whatever those ones are

[wet belfry]

Maelstroms tend to have more enemies in general.

[potent echo]

Do Maelstroms all come with hi int baked in?

[wet belfry]

if they are auric yes

To be honest i dont really run scoreboard right now and i havent for months

I mostly get told by people if i get insane scores.

[wispy wagon]

I call it "The Great Equalizer"

[lethal lagoon]

What's your normal mission time for Auric t5/Auric Maelstroms?

I'm curious now.

Anyone can answer

[wet belfry]

probably 25 to 30 minutes

occasionaly games might drag on to 40 but thats not too common.

[lethal lagoon]

25 is pretty low for a quickplay that isn't Magi

[wet belfry]

usually implies that some form of clutches have happend

[lethal lagoon]

Hab dreyko can be fast too

[wet belfry]

or that the other players are absolute garbage at doing their part.

[potent echo]

I usually get 25-30 too

[lethal lagoon]

Next time you run a map that isn't magi or hab dreyko and is an Auric Maelstrom lemme know the time if you are bored enough to remember
Also pubbing, not premade

[potent echo]

I'll take note

[wet belfry]

I dont pub though

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, that's completely different then

It's pretty rare I can get my friends to still play unless there's a major update cause the game is just so easy with a premade

Esp if you cordinate your builds at all

Just go brr

[lethal lagoon]

[wet belfry]

I genuinely find it frusrating to play public matches

[lethal lagoon]

That's the fun

[near drift]

Just become a god gamer and carry every match completely

[lethal lagoon]

But I can see how that's not fun for some people

[small valve]

Public matches are lore accurate

[wet belfry]

It doesnt have anything to do with skills eithe

[fast frost]

That’s my good deed of the day done

[lethal lagoon]

Not everyone likes carrying, yeah

[wet belfry]

I just dont think i enjoy having unresponse players in my game.

Im completely fine with playing privately with bots.

[lethal lagoon]

Public play is pretty strong atm though, cause the playbase is

[left basin]

i yell obscenities at veterans so i exclusively play pubs

[potent echo]

It was pretty pog until the recent patch

[lethal lagoon]

The only excitement comes when you have players who have no idea what auric maelstrom is queueing in cause it's the biggest box on the screen

[barren blade]

Good shit today lol, just need someone to Ogryn up for me now lol

[lethal lagoon]

The few games I played were all too competent, and I recognized someone.

[potent echo]

It's fine until I start queuing for auric maels

[lethal lagoon]

Might be timezone dependent

[hard dragon]

Cliffhanger is impossible for me
The highest ivd gotten is six and its getting personal

[small valve]

My ogryn isn't levelled enough to have shield unfortunately

[fast frost]

I pretty much only play pub

[potent echo]

The amount of shitters going for A.S.S. by dcing

[small valve]

I could grind though

[barren blade]

Neither is my psyker lol

Lemme get to 30

[small valve]

This is a mood

[lethal lagoon]

I thought DCs broke the penance

[fast frost]

I would’ve stayed lol I didn’t realise you were getting it too my b

[lethal lagoon]

It does for the malice no downs one

[potent echo]

Doesn't

[lethal lagoon]

That's dumb as fuck

[small valve]

A.S.S.??

[potent echo]

A.S.S.

[fast frost]

DCs break none of the penances

[potent echo]

Golden

[fast frost]

Auric storm survivor

[left basin]

ass sex sex

[barren blade]

It's all good, maybe another time, my psyker is 25, and I'm not the best at it lol

[small valve]

ah

[lethal lagoon]

They absolutely broke the malice downs one.

But it's been a while

[potent echo]

Downs*

[fast frost]

Honestly it wouldn’t be an issue again we didn’t even need a shield orgyn you just need someone to run around with agro

[potent echo]

If you go down before you DC it will count

But A.S.S. is deaths

So you just DC before you die

[barren blade]

The BoN kept walking through me and ignored my taunt lol

[gloomy magnet]

finally melk

380!

[lethal lagoon]

Obscurus

[barren blade]

Bro was on a mission to kill the Psyker

[lethal lagoon]

[fast frost]

Monsters pretty much ignore taunt that’s why I recommend not bothering

[potent echo]

Taunt gives extra damage

[small valve]

the plan was DH

[potent echo]

Bonbon doesn't give a shit about charge either

[lethal lagoon]

Taunt, worst ability in the game. Also probably has the worst penance now for class abilities next to bubble.

[barren blade]

I didn't know that

[small valve]

god don't fucking remind me

[barren blade]

It was Daemonhost lol

[small valve]

I'm going to die before I get the bubble done

[barren blade]

They stunlock themselves attacking Ogryns with shields

[fast frost]

Bubble tbf isn’t that bad it’s just boring. Not much they could’ve done with it

[potent echo]

Big disagree, but my bias comes from how ironbreaker can trivialise chaos patrols

[left basin]

bubble is for psykers who care about others

[barren blade]

Could've increased attack while in it

[left basin]

i need numbers to get dopamine so i shriek at the bubble psykers

[barren blade]

Like in Destiny

[fast frost]

Ngl aurics this week have made me appreciate walls much more

[left basin]

then they get set on fire and die and give me a stack

[fast frost]

Bubble should’ve had three splits, a damage bonus, the toughness regen and a DoT

[barren blade]

Or a stun effect if they enter

[fast frost]

I’ve stopped bringing bubble

[lethal lagoon]

Bubble doesn't block bullets but just gives an area style damage bonus for any projectile shot from inside
That'd be a cool option

[fast frost]

It’s on wall

[barren blade]

Oh truuue

[small valve]

There is one of these if you use the objectively worse shield

[left basin]

bubble needs to add music inside for me to consider it

[small valve]

If the bubble played the cantina band music would you use it

[fast frost]

People who say wall is bad just don’t know how to place walls

[left basin]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, if only to annoy other people.

[left basin]

i will now listen to cantina band music

[barren blade]

I would only play psyker if it played cantina music

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-misc-band-aliens-party-gif-4813411

[lethal lagoon]

You can't say the genre of cantina music

[small valve]

we love these little stereotypes

[fast frost]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-cat-jam-head-bounce-kitty-gif-17946989

[left basin]

cantina band music

[lethal lagoon]

That's not the genre

[fast frost]

Oh no you can’t lol ahaha

[lethal lagoon]

The lore accurate genre

[lethal lagoon]

[fast frost]

Thought you meant like it’s cursed not that it’s literally banned

Makes sense I guess

[left basin]

cantina band music

[barren blade]

You can't saw the genre? Cause it's name is explicit lol

[small valve]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-darktide-darktide-gif-27184427

[left basin]

it's cantina band music

[barren blade]

It's Jaizz

[left basin]

it's played in cantinas by bald aliens

that are in a band

[tall mango]

the final 3

[fast frost]

There’s one I’ve not even touched somehow

[small valve]

god why is that number so high

[tall mango]

its just 150000

[small valve]

it's so much

[fast frost]

I still have the brain pop one with stacks with a single one left

[small valve]

i'm gonna cry

[cinder moon]

i am now A.S.S.

[tall mango]

honestly didnt take too long

[left basin]

you always were you play psyker

[small valve]

A.S.S.

[barren blade]

I'm at like 1900 points rn, it's such a grind

[fast frost]

150000 really isn’t that bad. I must’ve gotten about 1/3 of it in 6 aurics

[lethal lagoon]

I did the smite penance in 1.5 games

It's a lot

[tall mango]

[fast frost]

What’s the smite one again

[tall mango]

kill a fuck ton

[lethal lagoon]

2500 kills while under the effect of smite

[barren blade]

High intensity zones are best for numbers

[fast frost]

Ah right yeah

[tall mango]

takes like

3-4 missions

[lethal lagoon]

I finished it half way through my second game, the skill penances seem like they are trying to get you to use the worst abilities

[fast frost]

I cba looking up a scryer build to do that penance so it’s on hold for now

[small valve]

that's exactly what it is

[cinder moon]

smite good

me like smite

[lethal lagoon]

Rerread what I said

[tall mango]

this is probably the silliest outdated challenge

[lethal lagoon]

I'm saying shield is garbage, which is why the penance takes forever

[fast frost]

I’ve reached the point I’m just trying to hand pick the auric damnations I need

[barren blade]

Smitker main spotted

[tall mango]

same as this one

[cinder moon]

bubble is weird, i generally don't like it

[fast frost]

Yeah this is the one I’m literally 1 off finishing I just don’t like brain burst

[fast frost]

I don’t think this one is bad

[small valve]

God fuck christ please don't remind me

[cinder moon]

getting the aegis penance wasn't fun until i specced bubble with DD/bb/void

[fast frost]

Ones that aren’t just “do thing lots” are good

[tall mango]

dont use your ability for two minutes

its just boring design

[lethal lagoon]

It got nerfed and is easy to get now lmao

[small valve]

Is it really

[tall mango]

you wanna talk about easy?

[small valve]

I spent actual days trying to get that

[tall mango]

fuck you

[lethal lagoon]

It's 2 minutes down from 5 minutes

[tall mango]

I slaved away at the NINTEY PERCENT IT ONCE WAS

AND NOW ITS FUCKING FIFTY??

These new bloods know NOTHING

[small valve]

lol said the developers, lmao

[lethal lagoon]

It takes the same amount of effort lmao

[fast frost]

Huh never realised they changed that

[lethal lagoon]

Cause it's still a private game challenge

[tall mango]

still hate

[small valve]

But yeah no it's basically just BB it repeatedly

[cinder moon]

malleus still being private is dumb

[fast frost]

Yeah that’s kinda lame

[lethal lagoon]

50% is absolutely douable now without special effort

[left basin]

i did it at before it was 90

[lethal lagoon]

Should be public

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-life-south-park-bummer-gif-16184261

[small valve]

jaundice

[tall mango]

also can we talk about how shit these pants are

[small valve]

I would wear those if I were real

[tall mango]

They go with absolutely nothing

[fast frost]

Ngl I wouldn’t be surprised if you could do it solo with bots. They run around so weirdly you’d probably get about 50% of the damage before they do

[lethal lagoon]

Best gym pants.

[cinder moon]

doing it in a private game you're still likely to do 100% of the boss damage anyway, so why bother reducing the damage

[small valve]

I would wear them to a date

[left basin]

yarr, the demons are in me old head, shiver me timbers

[small valve]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-dj-spit-get-out-of-my-head-charlie-pim-gif-25405188

[fast frost]

The thing is they go with nothing

[cinder moon]

they straight up just unprivated the ogryn bullrush penance with literally no other change to it

sooo

[tall mango]

yeah and its so easy to get

[cinder moon]

yes

[fast frost]

Like they stand out so much. None of the psyker things look like it

[tall mango]

silly decisions by a silly swedish company

[cinder moon]

literally my first game on ogryn after the patch i got it

[lethal lagoon]

I would wear these to a date, I had these pants many years ago.

[small valve]

literally just... bull rush

[cinder moon]

bullrush, drop nuke in pack of elites, bullrush

[small valve]

I'd wear those to a date

[lethal lagoon]

They make your butt look great

[fast frost]

The ogryn one didn’t need to be private tbf the awkward ones were just private to make there be one for each class

[lethal lagoon]

[cinder moon]

i think they only privated the ogryn one because people were bullrushing off of ledges to get 40m vertical height and dying

[left basin]

swedes are a hoax

[fast frost]

I hope we get some good psyker stuff in the aquilas soon

Literally had the same customisation since. The krieg store

And my boys so dripped out idk what id change

[tall mango]

I want more recolors in the comissary

[small valve]

I feel like the Loner goes in nothing but the krieg fatigues

there's no reason for him to wear anything else

[fast frost]

I picked up a side item from the psykers krieg stuff and that was it for me

[left basin]

i like sefoni

[fast frost]

Just penance stuff afterwords

[small valve]

Sefoni's cool for an abomination

[left basin]

need a binoculars mod so i can stare at her

[small valve]

I wish we had more free psyker collars

[tall mango]

Alright fellas, time to do my 100th match

[cinder moon]

[tall mango]

5 penances for psyker in one match

[fast frost]

Something about sefoni is really grinding for me. I don’t like her and I don’t like her stupid hiver friend

Now hadron

[lethal lagoon]

[fast frost]

More like hardon

[small valve]

I like krall 😦

he's a silly little guy

silly little amputation artist

[fast frost]

Ngl pasqual has just made me like the admech so much more

[tall mango]

Sefoni flirting with Krall is silly

[fast frost]

Gave them so much character as well as hadron

But especially pasqual

[tall mango]

brahm and dementia boy

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/27H9WNHeWYzl1U/d1337NqSXUt3?invite=cr-MSxNeUwsMjAzODY4NTAxLA

[left basin]

mm sefoni

[small valve]

Dementia boy is the best way to describe KX

He sounds like he has technodementia

[kind wing]

Trying to make Dueling Sword work, what y'all do?

[small valve]

Roleplay as a frustrated krieg psyker who has somehow become valuable enough to have a revolver and a sabre

[kind wing]

This is mine

[kind wing]

Yeah we can work with that

I was moreso thinking about Blessings and Perks

And any synergies with Talents outside of Scrier's Gaze

[small valve]

iunno

I like using it with shriek to finish off the enemies I've floored

[kind wing]

Hmmm

I wonder if it has enough Cleave to make Rampage work

It struggles during hordes and I'd rather not spend 20 years trying to clear a Poxwalker pack

[small valve]

I only ever use melee as a psyker if I've fucked up and need to take out what's in front of me to keep surviving

[kind wing]

I go melee as much as I can cause I'm a Vermintide hoe

[barren blade]

I still don't have Cliffhanger

🙃

I kinda wanna play Vermintide again, just cause I'm getting the hang of Darktide

[small valve]

Cliffhanger is unreasonably hard

Like there should be no reason for me to struggle with it, just shriek a bunch of groaners off a ledge

can't fuckin do it

[lethal lagoon]

Dueling swords got a fix, all their l1s should trigger rampage in a horde

including mk4

[small valve]

mk4 my beloved

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark: What if one mark of the dueling swords randomly did 50% more damage and had a better moveset?

[kind wing]

Ah okay I should run that over Shred then

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't say that, uncanny shred is my preferred

[kind wing]

For me anyway

[lethal lagoon]

Just depends what you wanna do

[kind wing]

I wanna cleave with this damn thing xd

Shred is very good but I'm not running a Crit build

[small valve]

Do you think psykers would like weed

[lethal lagoon]

Probably worth a try

Fuck no

[small valve]

are you suuuuure

[kind wing]

Lemme try the other Duelling Sword movesets rq

[lethal lagoon]

mk4 heavy attacks are a chain poke that can 3 shot a crusher and one shot a mutant

They do too much damage for no real reason

[small valve]

I love the mk4

[lethal lagoon]

mk5 has that real nice extra dodge slide

and mk2 is for people who hate themselves

[small valve]

the mk4 is also the nicest looking in my objectively correct opinion

[kind wing]

So long as I can emulate being a terrible Zealot because my one dream is for Zealots to be able to use Duelling Swords

The Saltzpyre main in me begs for it

Oh yeah Mk4 moveset is basically just Rapier from Vermintide 2, wth

Why haven't I been using that instead LOL

Literally feels like home

[small valve]

It does feel kind of peculiar that only psykers can but I guess the devs have kinda been pushing the idea that the psykers we play come from noble or semi-noble backgrounds

[kind wing]

Not mine, mine was a poor waif

[small valve]

I meant that it seems like the developers want it to be that way

there are, like, a disproportionate amount of "fancy" psyker clothes we can have

[wet belfry]

Melee psyker is more viable this patch then previously.

[left basin]

wot changed

[wet belfry]

Disrupt destiny, scriers gaze give huge benefits to melee weapons.

They are more consistently up.

[kind wing]

Kind of hard to keep up Disrupt Destiny unfortunately when everyone else is still mulching through the kills you want

Bastards

[wet belfry]

Gunners also are just nerfed in general in suppresion.

[tall mango]

On my 100th match, I hit level 100 and have finished every single psyker penance (for now)

feels good

[barren blade]

Hey Comrade, you wanna help me try and get Cliffhanger? I can't do it I'm public matches, people are greedy with kills

[small valve]

I gotta give my laptop a break I've been playing darktide all day and I think my GPU and/or CPU will melt if I don't give it a rest

[barren blade]

No problem bro, appreciate it as always

[small valve]

hit me up if you still need it done in like an hour or so

[barren blade]

I will lol

It's a godawful penance

[brazen panther]

Is there's something similar for psykers like the ogrynmicon?

[kind wing]

Damn, dunno which one to work with

Uncanny Strike is like a must on either or

Gonna keep farming but definitely want one to start off

What y'all think?

[lethal lagoon]

Left, Riposte, Uncanny.

[kind wing]

Alrighty

[lethal lagoon]

Carpace mutants is my preferred because I don't really use the mk4 to attack bosses

But unyielding carpace is a viable combo

If you want to change riposte instead

[kind wing]

I'll fuck around with it, I think the Rending from Uncanny should help for clearing up a mixed horde of Flak and whatever else

So Perks should stay the same

[lethal lagoon]

Flak doesn't really do anything for mk4

i don't think it hits any breakpoints

[kind wing]

Yeah too low anyways

[ornate hamlet]

How's this?

[kind wing]

Eee those Perks kinda hurt

And so do the Blessings...

[ornate hamlet]

They do.

[lethal lagoon]

And so does the weapon

[kind wing]

It might be a go-next

[ornate hamlet]

Powderburn looks good on paper.

Sustained fire?

[kind wing]

I think you at least want Blaze Away

Autopistol does have some pretty strong Suppression on it

So Sustained Fire to Blaze Away and Efficiency to... Idunno, Flak I guess

[kind wing]

Just to work with it until you get a better one

[wet belfry]

Dedicated psyker

[tall mango]

I love how this stance isnt even using the stance in the image

hes just standing there

[inner pilot]

wtf do I put on this again

[potent echo]

https://youtu.be/uDHMmU55TWk

[potent echo]

Flurry nexus

Flak + whatever

Some people like flak + crit chance

Some people like flak + maniac

[tall mango]

flak crit seems odd for purg

[potent echo]

Crit on purg gives double burn stacks

[lethal lagoon]

flak crit is probably the highest DPS

[potent echo]

So it burn the faster

Same with flamer afaik

[lethal lagoon]

I remember someone did the calculations for it

crit I mean

[lethal lagoon]

For that staff I'd personally change unarmored to flak and run'ngun to nexus.

[inner pilot]

yea das what i was gonna do

forgot doe...

[potent echo]

All those new poses all so goofy

Esp the zealot kneeling one

[inner pilot]

never disrespect chief keef pose psyker

[potent echo]

He has a trade deal

[tall mango]

Psyker, point at whos a nerd

[lyric crow]

pov: you're a crusher pack looking at a smiteker

[cinder moon]

mk2 is nice if you want mk5 mobility but a single target focused heavy

mk2 go h1-alt-h1-alt all day long

[inner pilot]

what dueling swords the best

[cinder moon]

most people would say mk4 > mk5 > mk2

mk5 and 2 both have superior mobility to mk4, but mk4's single target damage is literally double the others'

[inner pilot]

which one is 4 again

V?

[cinder moon]

IV

[inner pilot]

whyat about

blaze force swords

[cinder moon]

illisi ≥ deimos > obscurus

illisi more popular since it's good for horde clear, deimos is great for single target damage

[inner pilot]

but whats da best psyker melee

[cinder moon]

depends on your ranged weapon

[lethal lagoon]

mk2 has the same mobility as mk4?

[cinder moon]

mk2 and 5 mobility are close enough to call "the same"; they both have mobility stat so their moveset gets augmented by that, mk4 is the "slow" dueling sword since it lacks mobility stat

2 and 5's dodges > 4's dodges

[spice veldt]

mk5 is the one that's the outlier for having defense instead of cleave damage

mk4 has mobility

[cinder moon]

[left basin]

at one random point obscurus is going to be buffed to satan

[cinder moon]

i was conflating defence with mobility

[barren blade]

I need one person so I can get Cliffhanger without people killing everything in sight

[cinder moon]

pretty sure mk2 mobility is still superior to mk4 though

[fluid skiff]

mk4 is for murderin'

[left basin]

it'd be really cool if bb would work with

disrupt destiny better

[spice veldt]

it's the same https://streamable.com/jowj3k

[thorn cedar]

they are all categorized as 'hella mobile'

[cinder moon]

only 0.22 extra on mk5 dodge, intredasting

[obtuse locust]

What mod is that ?

[obtuse locust]

Fencing swords are great to squeeze your way out of tight spots.

[spice veldt]

movement analyzer mod

it's somewhere in the modding discord

[obtuse locust]

meant the one that lets you test any item

this

[spice veldt]

loadout config

also a modding discord specific mod

[obtuse locust]

Huh

[dusk void]

Omg, I got stuck in a spawning zone. The developers needs to fix that bug

[obtuse locust]

This is my best saber I have.

[lethal lagoon]

the mk5 mobility breaks the game in a lot of ways cause you aren't supposed to be able to dodge slide that fast.

It's not "only" by any measure of the word.

[cinder moon]

dodge, not dodge slide

i know the dodge slide is really where they shine

[lethal lagoon]

Ah

I had no idea where .22 even came from, so that makes more sense.

[obtuse locust]

I give it a pass for pyskur because he's a glass cannon. But speedy vet/ zealot is an issue.

If only Ogryn had a ability to pick up zealot and carry him on his back or something.

[fluid skiff]

ogryn ability to pick up downed teammates like they're canisters

[cinder moon]

i'm actually prejudiced against knife zealots at this point, they almost always poison the run somehow

[obtuse locust]

I also have these two which I quite very much fancy.

[obtuse locust]

Vet and Zealot need a nerf, Ogryn was the one class that they did not need to nerf, yet got wacked the hardest.

Working to get other power swords, but currently the Mk. 5's work great due to their side sweeps.

[fluid skiff]

need is a strong word

[obtuse locust]

I wouldn't say it is a "strong" word. More just a casual word. Other words can be used to put more meaning. But thats beside the fact.

I need these stats, but on the lighting staff.

[upper galleon]

ogryn barely got whacked

[obtuse locust]

His toughness got wacked. That is something.

[upper galleon]

it's literally just making the DR multiplicative like every other source

[fluid skiff]

those perks deserve to be changed

[upper galleon]

yea, one ability

[obtuse locust]

Which perks? The staff or swords?

[upper galleon]

from additive to multiplicative, and lucky bullet and gunlugger stuff got buffed

[fluid skiff]

the staff

[upper galleon]

zealot needs a nerf but crit cdr needed one WAY more than momentum did

[obtuse locust]

I'm content with the 10 crit damage, and been wondering what to switch the other one with. I'm thinking crit chance, or just unarmored.

I do go for alot of headshots with it and also weakspot is another I was thinking. Transfer peril is so-so good.

[upper galleon]

crit chance and crit damage are bad perks. crit damage because of how it calculates, and crit chance for the sheer value vs 25% to important armor type

same with weakspot

[obtuse locust]

I find the crits for pyskur useful.

[upper galleon]

crit damage and weakspot damage perks only apply to the bonus damage

yes and 5% isn't going to change much

[lethal lagoon]

10% crit damage is like 3-4% damage.

[upper galleon]

compared to even 10% elites

[lethal lagoon]

And most surge crits are overkill

And that's on surge, one of the most critty weapons

And it's still not worth

[upper galleon]

yea, void crits don't even do double damage

[obtuse locust]

I mostly use crits on the lighting staff.

[upper galleon]

don't go crit damage heyah

[lethal lagoon]

Brother I think you are missing the entire convo

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-haiya-funny-gif-18052423

[lethal lagoon]

Crits are good

The crit damage perk doesn't do much

[obtuse locust]

Did not, showing what I have.

[upper galleon]

crits are good, but the perk is not helping

[obtuse locust]

What perks would be best on the lighting staff?

[upper galleon]

the only time I go crit chance perk is on my twin stubbers for ogryn, and my void staff that has surge on it

[lethal lagoon]

Change that crit damage to flak damage and that's a great staff.

[upper galleon]

^

[lethal lagoon]

Flak is required. Maniac and crit chance are decent secondaries.

Unyielding is one I like, but it's not popular

[upper galleon]

i'd put carapace or unyielding depending on your build

but maniac is also great

[obtuse locust]

I have an old staff that has carapace. But I don't use it anymore.

[cinder moon]

i have carapace on my surge staff and it's basically useless

[lethal lagoon]

Carpace is literally only for crushers

[lethal lagoon]

It's okay on like a melee malestrom, but otherwise a waste

[upper galleon]

thing is i'm playing smite psyker and I need something to spam the bigger enemies before they get in range of my sword, i have flak unyielding on mine

[obtuse locust]

There is this one with higher damage, but shit charge and warp resistance.

[upper galleon]

warp resistance doesn't matter

[lethal lagoon]

Wait fuck I play EP smite all the time and I never considered using carpace

[upper galleon]

neither does quell speed tbh

[obtuse locust]

The warp resistance is an issue, constant edging between meloning my head with it.

[upper galleon]

tbh I can handle a crusher or few with my sword easy

[obtuse locust]

I use brain burst

[lethal lagoon]

Switch to flak and that's a very good staff.

[upper galleon]

surge BB makes no sense

they are both single target

[obtuse locust]

Works for me for how I play pyskur

[upper galleon]

yea psykur with crit damage, I hope you have a good sword at least for any groups xd

[obtuse locust]

I do like brainburst.

[lethal lagoon]

Let the man play(as long as it's without crit damage)

[obtuse locust]

Dueling sowrds and power swords is my weapon of choice. And are best for when I get surrounded.

[lethal lagoon]

Illisus is nice with surge, so is dueling sword mk4

Anyways, any of those staves are fine, just switch crit damage for flak.

[obtuse locust]

These two cut though hoarders like cheese. And also helps quell peril when I quick switch. Thats if the quick switch doesn't bug out and accidentally fire a shot and blow up.

This equally is good, but more I'm going to run away and regroup, and or create distance to then utilize my range attack on enemys which has helped in games.

[spiral storm]

I always run force swords because of deflector

[wet belfry]

Can ya’ll stop posting weapons, its distressing

[spiral storm]

I literally do not trust teammates to kill gunners

[obtuse locust]

Deflector is really good. Not sure how well it is for melee attacks, I don't often pay attention to that. But I know ranged attacks it does, and helps greatly.

[ornate hamlet]

Illisi Force Sword, and the Surge Staff is what I've been rockin, and I like the feel of it

Heck yeah Deflector is a real big savior

[obtuse locust]

First rule. Your team mates are the of upmost more danger to you, then the enemys.

[ornate hamlet]

Cutting Mutants in half with the Illisi feels awesome haha

[spiral storm]

the worst is when there's a zealot who just runs in with melee

and two things happen

[obtuse locust]

I'm waiting to get some good stats on the other power swords to then start running them.

[spiral storm]

they get gunned down

[cinder moon]

deflector lets you facetank abominations a lot longer

[spiral storm]

or keep running forward to AVOID getting gunned down

resulting in all the aggroed gunners to turn and shoot at the rest of the team

[obtuse locust]

By chance, would it work against crushers and bullworks?

[cinder moon]

no

[ornate hamlet]

Max Deflector helps with that. Increases the amount you can block, and with a couple dodges mixed in, unless you've backed yourself into a corner you can usually get out

[cinder moon]

crusher overheads will just break through the block no matter what

[ornate hamlet]

AND the big push, can work on even bulwark at times

[cinder moon]

idk about bulwarks, i rarely get hit by their shield bump

[obtuse locust]

I hate it when you dodge as they swing and they still track you and smash you.

More so when a team mate dodges into your direction leading to you being mashed. This happens alot more with sniper, team mate just dodges to you, sniper targets you and shoots you instead of them. And they opt to just dodge and kill lesser enemys then focus on the sniper.

[cinder moon]

i hate when people just ignore one bomber and the entire floor turns into lava

or pox gas now

bombers and flamers are usually my #1 priority, gunners are second, crushers are dangerous but you can at least kite them without too much issue

[obtuse locust]

People are selfish, and only want that dopamine high effect of killing enemys and not actually partisipate on killing high priority targets or team mates down.

I play Ogryn, play gun lugger, or other versions, I can hold fort if a team mate goes down, and clear the area of enemys to buy time for the team to get that one guy up. Only to see, the othe two people trying to pick enemys off that I'm clearly, rather then getting the one guy up. Pisses me off, and I feel bad for those who are down.

Often have to stop what I'm doing and get their ass up because other team mates don't give a shit. Find my self doing that with pyskur too. And even worse due to my role and how I play, if I stop my thing, enemys are going to title wave into us, and team don't care.

People only care untill they are forced directly to kill snipers, bombers, gunners. "WHy will i waste my revolver, bolter, and or other guns ammo to shoot a gunner 50 or so meters away, a sniper whos aiming at us, when somebody else can. I can dodgespam and hide let it be somebody elses problem." Is the mentallity, and sadly, it's rewarded to them because somebody else is going to be fucked, and get angry enough that they have to deal with said issue.

[cinder moon]

i find that happens less at higher difficulties, particularly aurics

[obtuse locust]

Oh no I find it especially prominant now at higher levels.

[cinder moon]

though zealots are frequently the most annoying

[obtuse locust]

I do nothing but Auric back to back to back.

[obtuse locust]

I give my praise to those who are good, but those who are not. Only makes me wish team damage was a thing so I could eliminate them on the spot.

Would be very nice if they had a third option. Let you brain burst two enemys at once. Right click target one target, left click target second enemy.

[fluid skiff]

just for pure randomness, you don't get to pick the second lol. you burst one, someone else within a few meters gets bursted as well

[obtuse locust]

@lethal lagoon
How useful is this talent ?

[spiral storm]

Very

depending on staff

[lethal lagoon]

For voidstrike and gunker, basically required.

[obtuse locust]

I run it with void strike

[lethal lagoon]

It works best with Voidstrike(surge blessing), but it's generally worth it on any voidstrike.

[obtuse locust]

I wish man. Downed team mates would be nice, but I think just picking up pyskur as is. One hand I'd have my melee weapon swiping enemys, and other pyskur on my back shooting lighting or doing what they do best.

Like a war elephant of old age.

[lethal lagoon]

True aim is actually kind of nice with BB too, cause it means you get a free crit for your other weapon after 5 BBs.

It's generally not worth specfically grabbing though

Just a interesting interaction

[paper lily]

iirc bb gives 2 stacks per cast, not 1

[potent echo]

I had a true aim BR EP trauma build, it was quite funny

BR with PC gave everything 3 stacks, then true aim blaze trauma another 3

[lethal lagoon]

As you can see, I use it a lot.

[paper lily]

i mean bb is pretty much objectively worst of the blitzes but yea

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah if you aren't just spamming blaze trauma, true aim can be really nice cause you get it with melee too

But that's pretty niche

[potent echo]

Worse than smite? Yikes

[spiral storm]

nah BB isn't worst

[paper lily]

smite is straight up overtuned rn

[spiral storm]

eeeh

[potent echo]

Putting aside there's literally no objective way to test apples and oranges

[spiral storm]

well I guess worst is true since it's 3rd place

[lethal lagoon]

There really is, just do a BB only build versus smite only

[spiral storm]

but it's good

[lethal lagoon]

Smite wins by far

[paper lily]

i'm just looking at performance for me, like smite is insane rn

i'm easily double, sometimes triple everyone elses damage

[potent echo]

Smite is boring so it's automatic L

[ornate hamlet]

Dude, these randoms on Aurics are fucking terrible

[paper lily]

it can be interesting if you play nurgle blessings

[ornate hamlet]

the fact that a Psyker is consistently the last one to go down says a lot

People dont know how to play their fucking classes anymore

[paper lily]

i mean i'm seeing ppl with lacerate on combat knives still so

[spiral storm]

I always run BB on purge and gunker

[potent echo]

What, you hate fighting bosses in full view of 20 gunners and 30 reapers?

[spiral storm]

so I have an easier way to deal with carapace

[paper lily]

suppose it depends on what gun you run for gunker

[ornate hamlet]

Lol dude, the number of times I've watched people just run right past a gunner on Auric pisses me off lol

this is why I run a surge staff with bonus damage to specials

[obtuse locust]

brainburst could use a buff

[paper lily]

tbf sometimes they hug the corner pretty hardcore

brainburst should just do spillover damage

[potent echo]

It does with PC kinda

[paper lily]

conditional tho

[obtuse locust]

Idk about spill over, but I know it should let you target 2 enemys at once

[potent echo]

EP BR has some interesting plays in mixed hordes

[paper lily]

idk how targetting 2 enemies would work with stuff like ep

[obtuse locust]

Right click hold for one target, left click hold 2nd target

[paper lily]

yea but does it take the same peril? 1 charge of ep?

[spiral storm]

wait, smite is good now?

[paper lily]

smite is fucking insane right now

[spiral storm]

what was buffed?

[paper lily]

damage

[spiral storm]

Does it kill trash now or?

[paper lily]

it always killed trash if you ran ep

now it kills shit like ragers

[spiral storm]

wacky

so what's the build

shield, ep, smite?

[paper lily]

generic shriek ep smite build

never shield

like it's egregious the buff they gave smite

why would u channel bb when you can have unlimited dps on smite

[spiral storm]

do you take either of the shriek upgrades?

or stop at the first one

[potent echo]

Shield

[paper lily]

u take the flames one

here's an average run with smite

https://i.imgur.com/zmDi9vN.png

[dusk void]

I noticed that too. That tells me people can't play the game right and have to clutch it

[paper lily]

legit disgusting how much dmg it does

[spiral storm]

is shield bad now?

or is shield just not the right pick for smite

[paper lily]

shield isn't bad it just doesn't kill stuff

[lethal lagoon]

Shriek extends your smite cast

Smite bubble is just sad

[paper lily]

yea for some reason ppl think you have to stop smiting to shriek

[potent echo]

Shield is just there

[dusk void]

There to protect downed teammates

[potent echo]

You can shriek while doing anything, reloading, sliding, meleeing

Just revive them

[paper lily]

shriek would just knock over whatever is near downed teammates allowing you time to pick em up

[dusk void]

I like to revive while being protected by a shield, temporarily

[spiral storm]

I mainly use shield to not die to gunners

I would say that is the biggest reason I use shield

[lethal lagoon]

All this is fine, but don't run smite and bubble.

[dusk void]

The wall is the best anti-gunner

[spiral storm]

because somehow the fucking vet just won't SHOOT THEM

[paper lily]

only time i use shield is to have 2 charges to double stack the bb cast time buff

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly, like the main reason I use surge staff is cause no one kills gunners or shooter mobs

and it's the best staff for that

[spiral storm]

and the zealot decidede to aggro every enemy then run away when he realised he coulnd't win

[paper lily]

surge staff is also really fast

[dusk void]

Trauma and assail good anymore?

[spiral storm]

yes

[dusk void]

Sweet, although I do have to fix my talent tree

[spiral storm]

does smite need crit?

[paper lily]

nope

[lethal lagoon]

smite does not crit

[spiral storm]

aight

warp rupture is still shit right

the one that does 100-200 damage for shriek

[paper lily]

yea idk why it has dmg falloff too

but yeah it's shit

[spiral storm]

which one for EP

[lethal lagoon]

It's so overwhelming bad compared to creeping flames

[spiral storm]

increased chance or guaranteed on elite

[lethal lagoon]

on elite

[paper lily]

i actually take increased chance

[ornate hamlet]

Jesus dude, they need to tune those new tox gas mobs, shit makes the game not even fun honestly. Like I like the tactic of em and all, but the area it covers is just literally like 3 times the size it needs to be

[spiral storm]

personal choice, got it

[paper lily]

i just compared times i killed elites vs amt of trash i was killing

on average i'd gain more charges with increased chance

[lethal lagoon]

I like having a way to grab an EP stack no matter what, sometimes RNG just takes you for a ride.

we can actually calculate which is better based on the scoreboard

[wind spruce]

It's 5% increased chance isn't it?

[paper lily]

yeah it's like 5

[wind spruce]

So if you kill 1,000 enemies that's 50

No way 50 of those aren't elites

[paper lily]

eh, really depends on the map

[spiral storm]

it goes from 7.5% on any kill to 12.5%

[lethal lagoon]

60 elites, so elite is more stacks

[wind spruce]

Nah elites is better

Every map.

[lethal lagoon]

At least on the board you posted, elites would have been better.

[paper lily]

true

[lethal lagoon]

You can check other ones, most will probably have elites winning out

Plus it's guarenteed

[paper lily]

tbf, my choice was before the smite dmg bonus

[lethal lagoon]

I mean EP smite was still strong, it just wasn't broken.

[paper lily]

i'm not sure why people gravitate to the smite forever build

[spiral storm]

smite back then was just for CC wasn't it?

[paper lily]

clearly they want to nudge people to kill shit with ep, but ep was already murdering all trashmob

i mean ep was perfectly fine as a horde shredder, and did lots of damage to all non carapace enemies

[spiral storm]

they changed it to replace the surge

[paper lily]

but people cry cuz lots of psykers would just run warp charges with shield and smite

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite used to take a rager from 100-20, now it takes them from 100-0 and beyond

It's way overtunned

Perilous combustion makes it go crazy on top of that

EP smite was already strong, it's just no one ran EP smite

[fluid skiff]

oh, surge staff charged attack kills while holding EP charges count towards the penance. looks like they didn't change all the tags on the charged attack.

[paper lily]

if you gimmick uncanny with pc the whole room dies

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

i always think it's funny when i get ppl in my lobbies crying about smite tho

as if i'm making them sit there for 5 million years, everything dies SO FAST it's unreal

and yeah, looking at stats post patch it looks like elite kill talent just beats the other one now

before i didn't hit the dmg threshold well enough

[spiral storm]

trying it out in the range

[lethal lagoon]

I've never had someone complain about my ep smite

[spiral storm]

yeah kills goog now

struggles against the armoured elites but

kills all other trash goog

[lethal lagoon]

I've seen people get annoyed when I block and kill a horde on the magi elevator section though

My damage always jumps like 200k past everyone at just that one point.

[paper lily]

'move along nothing to see here'

[spiral storm]

probably either will get a nerf

or purge gets a buff

because like

man

why use purge now

[paper lily]

ngl even if they revert the smite dmg, smite is still op when used with ep

it's more acceptable but imo still does just too much fuckin damage

[spiral storm]

What was the damge bonus before?

it was like 175?

[paper lily]

iirc 125

or something

[spiral storm]

oh wow

[potent echo]

Purg so good

[spiral storm]

I love purge but

seeing EP smite

why even use it now

it kills armoured melee elites better I guess

but also you stunlock them infinitely with smite

[lethal lagoon]

It takes 8s for EP smite and Shriek to kill a rager.

How long does it take Purg to do that?

[spiral storm]

gimme a sec

we talking armoured or unarmoured

[lethal lagoon]

Maniac rager

[plucky flax]

People praise me for spamming smite

[potent echo]

Purg can kill 9999999 ragers in the same time as it takes to kill 1 rager

[spiral storm]

roughly 3 seconds to kill with purge

[plucky flax]

[spiral storm]

but like

[potent echo]

Did you use shield too

[lyric crow]

flamethrower staff go ppfffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[spiral storm]

smite still stunlocks

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Yes of course. Ultimate support.

[spiral storm]

including stunlocking crushers

[plucky flax]

Always bubble smite

[potent echo]

That's not 999999

[paper lily]

you are guaranteed to proc pc from smite too btw

[lethal lagoon]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3935643263194411095/

[paper lily]

idk if purg is fucked up with that since it apparently can't proc from warpfire frags

[lethal lagoon]

This is you right?

Be honest

I know what you do in your free time, you dirty steam dicussion poster

[potent echo]

Is flammenglanz another name for UTI

[lyric crow]

absolute meme to read

[lethal lagoon]

The whole steam forum is a meme

[cinder moon]

mentions people sucking on malice

lol

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not convinced these are actual real people

[spiral storm]

wtf

[lethal lagoon]

Except for selfish, he posts there all the time

[plucky flax]

Can't be me I'm still in sedition

[spiral storm]

man's complaining about level 3?

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

Pretty sure it's a bait post

Malice players won't even know what a smite is

[cinder moon]

i've told people since the beginning that EP smite was good, but everyone always wanted to go "smite bad"

[lyric crow]

fatshark-astroturfed-steam discussion posters

[potent echo]

Smite bad

[cinder moon]

[lyric crow]

SMITE POOP

[potent echo]

This is something

[spiral storm]

what staff do I run with EP smite

[potent echo]

Conspiracy real

[paper lily]

surge for me

[cinder moon]

surge

[paper lily]

u can make an argument for void

[spiral storm]

Doesn't surge require crit buffs though?

[paper lily]

nah surge base crit is really high

[potent echo]

Crit bad

[cinder moon]

surge does fine without DD or warp charges

especially if you have warp rider

[potent echo]

Imagine if DD gave crit chance

I would coom

[spiral storm]

I fucking HATE

[plucky flax]

But surge creeping flames warp charges spam can give you some insane soulblaze damage number.

[spiral storm]

that they named

the thing that high single target damage SURGE

and the thing that SURGES through a crowd

the SMITE

[lethal lagoon]

Surge used to be basically the smite blitza ability

[spiral storm]

yeah I know

[lethal lagoon]

Then that's a weird complaint lmao

Also, it's named Smite.

[potent echo]

How about the psyker staff surge blessing

[lethal lagoon]

The secondary attack of Surge is named smite

That's why they had a lot of bugs

[cinder moon]

fem savant yelling "i SMITE thee!" is great though

[paper lily]

bb is also smite in code iirc

[plucky flax]

800+ kills from warpfire 400k+ damage with surge staff and creeping flames spam
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1232015230817800292/image.png?ex=6627eb18&is=66269998&hm=7b02179f402b6d83c81068ce91b315be20eafb8e5102fd7978dc12b80e73fbbd&

[paper lily]

ur ai director had no chill that game

[potent echo]

Is this melee only

[spiral storm]

is flame trauma actually good

or is it a meme

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

271 smol shooters killed

[cinder moon]

blazing trauma is pretty good if you have a good staff

[plucky flax]

So no

[potent echo]

How do people get such big numbers

Is my scoreboard bugged

[lethal lagoon]

By carrying really bad people through aurics

[cinder moon]

play auric maelstrom

[paper lily]

i mean that game idk how he had enough shit to kill in that time span

[lethal lagoon]

You know all those matches you lost? Imagine your scoreboard if you won.

[potent echo]

The total number of damage just doesn't line up

[paper lily]

wdym

[plucky flax]

It's paid actor's.

[potent echo]

That's like >2mil damage dealt total

[plucky flax]

100% meme

[potent echo]

My games only have like 1.5mil total

[paper lily]

yea i mean there were a ton of fuckin enemies in that game

i only get insane numbers in games i'm basically guaranteed to lose

[plucky flax]

Yeah that round was insane tbf

[paper lily]

mostly cuz i just have 3 ppl who are deadweight

[plucky flax]

Specials spawn constantly

[paper lily]

https://i.imgur.com/E2G4OPx.png

i lost this one but like just can't move

[potent echo]

Maybe sometimes director just goes crazy

[cinder moon]

director does sometimes go nuts

[plucky flax]

More melee kills than evis 15 zealot
Illisi gud

[cinder moon]

my favorite is when you're playing regular damnation and suddenly it feels like histg maelstrom

[plucky flax]

Granted its trash horde clear from me

[lethal lagoon]

Here's almost 2 mil

[paper lily]

tbf i only use ovenproof calc

either way 1.2m is a fuckton of dmg

[lethal lagoon]

I use both because my ego demands it

Believe it or not, I actually carried that game

[paper lily]

well, you do still have scores on..

[plucky flax]

Play warp charges surge and spam f.

[potent echo]

This is crazy

It's a true solo

[plucky flax]

Easily 500 600k damage in 25 mins.

[lethal lagoon]

I was the level 6 psyker who was "OnlySmites", literally

And I promise it wasn't a true solo, I carried so hard

Trust

[lethal lagoon]

You say that, but anytime I run into another surge psyker they do so little damage

It's like fucking magic

the build has such a small skill ceiling

[paper lily]

low or high

[lethal lagoon]

I don't get it

[potent echo]

They spam F but instead of fire a shield comes out

[plucky flax]

Me too you just right click left click press f

So comfy to play

[cinder moon]

my whole goal when playing surge/smite is to use surge for elites/specials so i can proc perilous combustion, and use smite for mixed hordes

[lethal lagoon]

[cinder moon]

plus spamming creeping vent

[paper lily]

i think 99% of my damage is smite only

with new ep

[lethal lagoon]

0 crit 0 weakspot is the new meta

[paper lily]

based

[plucky flax]

In that 1.1 Mil damage game I used smite once

[lethal lagoon]

But you have crits, so you are basically nothing

[paper lily]

my other build is high apm assail surge

it's way more interactive than smite tbh

[cinder moon]

yeah but you don't get to be palpatine

[fluid skiff]

wait, does it use warp siphon?

[cinder moon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[paper lily]

my loner psyker even mentions limitless 😭

[lethal lagoon]

When my psyker says "It's all skill" after just holding down smite

[paper lily]

yeah that uses warp syphon

[fluid skiff]

I switched to a surge/assail to complete penances but I'm actually loving it as a build

[plucky flax]

It's a funny meme that can do this in melee scab only in particular. Recent game post latest update

[fluid skiff]

it murders things so fast

[paper lily]

you have so many interesting mechanics to mess with in that build

anim cancel surge, assail just movement ingeneral

[lethal lagoon]

crazy how high your warpfire gets

[plucky flax]

The trick is.. don't forget to press f.

[fluid skiff]

I used kinetic presence(for the penance) as well as psykinetic's wrath(my "oh shit I forgot to press quell" button)

[plucky flax]

Creeping flames is like voc. The more you press f the easier the round become.

Imagine creeping flames with vet's 360 stagger and toughness on top.

Uber hybrid man.

[lethal lagoon]

Vet's command is about the same size as a blaze trauma hit

[paper lily]

kinda surprised voc didn't get nerfed in some way after they changed ogryn units to not get staggered from certain attacks

[lethal lagoon]

meh

[potent echo]

Voice of creep

[paper lily]

voc legit floors nurgle blessed shit it's wild

[potent echo]

Green trappers always get me

They don't even care about trauma sometimes

[plucky flax]

No, it still flames forward, in addition to giving teammates toughness and stagger the 270 degree of attack around you.

[lethal lagoon]

It wouldn't even be overpowered

Because most people would still use bubble

[plucky flax]

I took bubble off so fast after that stupid penance.

[cinder moon]

i rarely see bubbles

[plucky flax]

Pee nance.

[paper lily]

but i'm getting shot!!

[potent echo]

I always see bubbles

[cinder moon]

though bubble/bb/dd/void was kinda fun

[paper lily]

you can just quell in a gunners face and stay kinda neutral on toughness

[plucky flax]

I see way more bubbles than fellow creeping flamers.

[lethal lagoon]

I almost never see shriek. I would notice because another psyker using shriek makes it less fun.

[potent echo]

I have no idea what goes on in the east Asia meta discussion

[plucky flax]

Psyker is kinda rare in general anyway.

Way more zealots and vets.

[cinder moon]

vent is so useful, gotta love freeing a dogged teammate from 40m away through walls etc

[paper lily]

u guys know that feeling when the first crusher rolls around and ur vet jumps as the maul goes over his head

isn't shout like 25m

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah also a lot of burster push then jump backward.

Like bruh you have dodge slide.

Surely it covers more distance than pressing jump and s.

[paper lily]

just unbind jump honestly

[cinder moon]

vent flames don't always apply for the entire range of vent, but vent itself reaches up to 40m or so

[lethal lagoon]

You don't jump when you shriek?

[paper lily]

nah my smiter doesn't need the extra power

[lethal lagoon]

Shriek isn't effected by the direction you look vertically

Only horzontially and your height

[paper lily]

it's still a cone though

[lethal lagoon]

Ice cream cone

[paper lily]

u got a source on it not changing based on the way u look

[plucky flax]

I need jump key for the funny flick meme

[paper lily]

yea extra boom for bein in the air

[lethal lagoon]

We did a bunch of testing in the discord, I geniunely don't care to look up any videos or pictures.

I just have that on hand

[paper lily]

hmm

feel like my experience has been different

[cinder moon]

i've freed dogged teammates on the upper floors of hab dreyko by looking at them and venting

[lethal lagoon]

Same, I was very surprised at the end image we discovered.

[paper lily]

i mean i see shit on fire when i shout into dropdowns

[lethal lagoon]

I mean look at the image

It does go down.

[paper lily]

well yeah it's a cone

[lethal lagoon]

But looking down doesn't seem to do anything

[paper lily]

hmm

i'll look at the code at some point

[lethal lagoon]

You can test it right now, if you have a PC

[cinder moon]

get someone dogged on separate floors in hab dreyko and use vent to free them, it works

[lethal lagoon]

Look straight at the sky and shout with enemies in front of you

It will be the same if looking down or at them

[paper lily]

yeah but shriek does hit around you, albeit in a small radius

[lethal lagoon]

No, it's a halfcircle in front of you

tested that too

[paper lily]

unless there's interp issues, i have absolutely laid some shit out behind me when shrieking in matches

[lethal lagoon]

Brother, I literally had the same opinion as you

Test it, it will annoy the fuck out of you.

[paper lily]

well, hopefully you guys tested inmatches cuz meatgrinder isn't 1:1

[lethal lagoon]

We did

That was a funny game lmao

Also did solo play tests for the heights

[fluid skiff]

revising my warpfire setup- Psychic Vampire or In Fire Reborn?

[lethal lagoon]

We kept trying to get dogged to see the vertical looking thing

[paper lily]

vamp

[lethal lagoon]

This is what the code says it should look like. you have to look a bit deeper to find the cone if I remember right.

[paper lily]

yea im just gonna look at the lua cuz it'll say if it's affected by viewport

[lethal lagoon]

It's affected horizontally of course

Just not vertically

I'm not sure how that would be represented.

Probably just an xy thing

[paper lily]

i mean they use a flattened vector pointing at the characters rotation

at a cursory glance it should work based on look direction, anecdotally it seems to work that way too

i'll use some tp shit to check later

[lethal lagoon]

characters rotation is only horizontally, right?

[paper lily]

nah it has to point in 3 dimensional space

[lethal lagoon]

[paper lily]

there's only 1 var there for rotation too, and it's tied to the base fp extension so

[cinder moon]

why would it not apply a force vector in the direction in which you're looking?

[paper lily]

that's what it says it does

[lethal lagoon]

Well lemme know. I tested it by using solo play and placing ragers on a wall, looking up didn't change the rager I hit, only jumping did.

It seemed to work in the game we tested it out in too that way

[paper lily]

i'm thinking to just put myself in a skybox and shriek downwards

[cinder moon]

i don't think i have a clip of it, but i've definitely freed dogged teammates on separate floors of hab dreyko using vent

[lethal lagoon]

It does reach down.

It just doesn't matter if you look down.

[cinder moon]

i mean looking up

[lethal lagoon]

or up

[cinder moon]

there was nobody around them to help and they were freed the instant i pressed F, so

would be incredibly unlikely to be coincidence from a hostile mob freeing them

[lethal lagoon]

As I said, it does go up and down.

It just doesn't matter if you look down

[paper lily]

it's a cone after all

[lethal lagoon]

It's the same

[cinder moon]

are you saying the cone is only horizontal? or am i misunderstanding

[lethal lagoon]

It's always this, even if your character is looking up or down. Only jumping changes height.
(character not to scale)

[paper lily]

    local rotation = self._first_person_component.rotation
    local forward = Vector3.normalize(Vector3.flat(Quaternion.forward(rotation)))
    self._shout_direction = forward
    self._attack_direction = Vector3Box(forward)```

[cinder moon]

forward with respect to what? character's point of view or just the horizontal plane?

[lethal lagoon]

Fuck, do I have to redo the image again, I just realized the character being so large is misleading