psyker-class

[hushed egret]

for empathic and other on crit effects ye

[lethal lagoon]

Heh, blocking

EP smite has no blocking

[plucky flax]

It's for when I have to ress or solo clutch.

Always happy to have kinetic deflection.

[echo turtle]

KD is too good to not take honestly

[hushed egret]

overrated too tbh

[echo turtle]

So with this build, horde clear is wild

What melee you run?

I'm torn between Illisi, deimos and dclaw

[hushed egret]

half the time it doesnt even block with peril

[manic river]

question, is it normal killing marked enemies by Disrupt are not giving me stacks of Precision

[echo turtle]

I run some block efficiency and a 3 stan trinket. I can't remember the last time my guard broke

[lethal lagoon]

Visual bug

You have the stack

[manic river]

Ughhh but I gotta know how many I have

[lethal lagoon]

I prefer my EP smite tree to look as dumb as EP smite is

[manic river]

i'm just doing the silly penace

of mantaining 15 stacks for 1800 secs

[plucky flax]

More spreaded out so it's not just 1 combustion killing everything.

It was semi-meme but really good before but now it's just brokenly op.

[echo turtle]

K, I'm gonna give EP smite a go here

[lethal lagoon]

[echo turtle]

Was EP smite buffed recently?

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Yeah latest patch buffed damage.

[lethal lagoon]

It really didn't need a buff

[modern tusk]

Zamn

[lethal lagoon]

But it's funny af to use

[modern tusk]

Palpatine players are lore accurate now

[plucky flax]

Imagine surge ep bug with this ep smite.

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-bomb-nuclear-weapon-oppenheimer-los-alamos-atom-bomb-gif-16272589027919557028

[brave fiber]

I just wish psyker blitz upgrades were more interesting tbh

at best they’re just stat/cooldown buffs at worst they’re not practical to useless

[echo turtle]

EP smite feels good

Damage is lower than the warp charge build, but the crowd control is wild

Battle meditation procs a lot

My damage was lower than normal, but the run was so smooth we skipped med stations

[plucky flax]

The more you spam smite the smoother the run becomes.

[echo turtle]

Assail upgrades are huge

Brain burst free procs are excellent too

[echo turtle]

It does work

And the fire mixed in, got dang

With wildfire too, hordes melt

Keeping all the disablers and elites off the team makes everyone else perform so well, that but if breathing room is amazing for the run

[plucky flax]

Using surge without warp charges feel bad though.

So might as well just play smite only.

[echo turtle]

It doesn't have the same punch but it's still excellent for dropping shooters, clearing stuff in cover and poking diablers

With charges, the surge staff is a force of nature, without charges it's still very good but it's not going to lay waste to everything

I might bring the duely back in for this build, I never found I needed control, just some single target poke

Duely still have busted single target heavies?

Like, is it still one shotibg muties and rangers?

[lethal lagoon]

0 weakspots, 0 crits meta

[pulsar agate]

im looking for a level 30 psyker build thats up to date, been out of the game for a while

[upper sun]

almost everything works

just pick a clear weapon with a single target weapon and you're good

[late sapphire]

Youuuuu willl taaaake dueling sword 4 columnus v scriers gaze disrupt destiny

[echo turtle]

@plucky flax

I was just playing in the grinder, I noticed that since you arent critting as much the points at the top on the right with the warp damage and crit synergy weren't as required. I tried putting them into smite spread and damage and was suprised by the result

I am not sure how much the spread really affects it, as its hard to gauge, but the base 10% damage was noticeable, as it also enhances the soul blaze

[willow hazel]

did they fix those talents to work with the right click yet?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, they just don't show up on the debuff mod

10% damage is multi

[plucky flax]

Noted.

10% smite OP

[late sapphire]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a6affc6-44b4-447b-8bde-31d58e5816c4/psycho-gun-psyker

this one is fairly solid

though i'd swap prescience to seer's presence and grab one with the warp and cruel fortune instead of puppet master

[quick python]

spec full right side with a columnus and collect green circles

[late sapphire]

assail bad

[lethal lagoon]

I ran the fuck out of EP smite before the patch, and this was what I settled on.

[late sapphire]

outside of that yeah basically

[echo turtle]

It felt good, worth a try I think

[late sapphire]

i think i have genuinely never used ep smite

[echo turtle]

I don't understand how the +1 jump works, is there a max amount of enemies smite can jump to?

[late sapphire]

Do you expect it to chain infinitely?

[echo turtle]

I just don't understand the logic fully of the ability

[lethal lagoon]

[late sapphire]

atlus has a very nice pic yeah

[echo turtle]

Is that the difference between the jump skill and not?

[late sapphire]

does the extra damage from ep make it actually do something?

[lethal lagoon]

One EP stack will 100-0 a rager

with flaming shriek

[echo turtle]

The EP shriek and wild fire make it real good

Alone it will kill pox walkers start to finish with only a 50% perils use

[weary crane]

Purga better

[echo turtle]

So when you start zapping 0-99 and vent and keep going

[late sapphire]

That's ok

[echo turtle]

Think about how much damage and soul fire is dispersing

[late sapphire]

And get turned into a 2d psyker by a crusher? never

[echo turtle]

Purge is fine

What's the best perks rn for a duely

Uncanny and?

Errr blessings

[lethal lagoon]

Uncanny and dealer's choice

I prefer shred

[echo turtle]

Shred seems good

Mine has rampage from when rampage was bugged

[late sapphire]

i run rend & crit on dodge

performs well

[lethal lagoon]

You can easily activate rampage now with a normal d4 swing

So that's nice

[late sapphire]

Oh right the cleave

[weary crane]

32 stacks of soulblaze + deimos

[late sapphire]

and then his 8 other friends round the corner

[echo turtle]

So I have one with crit chance and crit damage that has shred4 and uncanny 4

And one with mutie and flack damage with uncanny 4 and my choice of blessing

Think I should rip shred 4 off the crit one?

[weary crane]

Heavy weakspot knocks down crushers with deimos

[lethal lagoon]

flak is kinda pointless

It doesn't do anything for d4

[echo turtle]

Is it? Seems good for rangers and shotgunners

Really

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think it makes you cross any breakpoints, you can test it.

maniacs and carpace/unyielding is the usual

[echo turtle]

It's not all about breakpoints, most of the time you strike enemies that have been damaged

Carapace tho, yeah I can see that

[lethal lagoon]

I mean d4 isn't really meant for flak enemies, why would you use d4 and not your staff?

Or not smite in this case

d4 is largely for muties, crushers, and bosses if you are feeling frisky

And ragers if you get cornered

[echo turtle]

Well, who knows

Sometimes my perils are up or I just wanna drop something quicjly

I like carapace tho

[late sapphire]

pokey is faster

[lethal lagoon]

but why you in pokey range?

Like yeah, it happens, but flak isn't usually helpful when you are pokey a gunner you just ran past

[late sapphire]

fun

[echo turtle]

Do you find riposte procs a lot?

I rolled up a duely with riposte and uncanny but shitty perks.

Near perfect stats tho

[late sapphire]

riposte is one of the dodge skills right

[echo turtle]

79/80/80

Yeah

[late sapphire]

Those almost always proc

[echo turtle]

20% crit for 6 seconds on dodge

[late sapphire]

You never block with a duely

[echo turtle]

Kk I'll change the perks to mutie carapace and use it

[late sapphire]

only 2 stam

[echo turtle]

Uncanny 3 and riposte 4

I run a stam curio

So it's good either way

[late sapphire]

that's extremely boring

[echo turtle]

What is?

[late sapphire]

dont worry about it

You get 5 really good dodges

[echo turtle]

I dodge a lot, low stam just isn't a concern

[late sapphire]

Yeah

[weary crane]

this is where I keep my beloveds

[plucky flax]

I put on 10% smite and it's rip 30% quell speed.

[echo turtle]

I only block if it's like a boss or something or I need to squeeze away from a crush of ebemies

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, get rid of weenie hut junior block

[echo turtle]

Sick

[lethal lagoon]

And you are gtg

[plucky flax]

But I am scared of chaos spawn on my ass.

[late sapphire]

just circle around a fence til your friends kill it

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

They should swap puppet master with solidity position.

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker tree should be as crazy as the warp, and just radiate out from the center

[echo turtle]

Alright, this duely feels good

Carapace damage makes a big difference on crushers

[lethal lagoon]

You can 3 shot crushers with a crit or two

It's juicy

[late sapphire]

scriers gaze with dd stacks

a good duely one shots crushers on crits

[echo turtle]

Sick

I'll have to set up a pure melee build for that

Or rather a gun build

Sounds fun

[late sapphire]

gunpsy yeah

i mentioned my build above

[hexed geyser]

Dont make the mistake, its a sword build that also has a gun

That's the way

[late sapphire]

the gun is a convenience option

Yes i want him dead no i dont want to walk

-> gun

[echo turtle]

using assail with DD/scriers or is smite still good here?

[hexed geyser]

Assail, you wont ever have time for smite. Unless you want it as a pause button used once per game maybe...

[late sapphire]

smite is in a better spot for talents imo

[echo turtle]

cruel fortune worth it for DD?

[hexed geyser]

What's that one?

[echo turtle]

2 stacks on weakspot kill

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[hexed geyser]

I believe its great yeah

[steep bridge]

What do you say fellas, is it better to have a staff with worse base stats, but godroll talents and blessings, or staff with good base stat roll but not godroll talents and blessings (but still not awful)

[late sapphire]

necessary

if you get good enough with it you swap 10s to 25 stacks talent

[nova bridge]

Trying to find a build I like is fun. So many things to try out.
Not sure if any are viable. I am still only 22.

[echo turtle]

you will be 30 pretty quick

just play what feels good and dont worry

[hexed geyser]

Get to 30, you'll see after

[fluid aspen]

Finally

[hexed geyser]

Woooo

[late sapphire]

By the way

Does the rending actually make it count as flak or unarmored for perks?

[hexed geyser]

In which way? Rending doesnt work on unarmored

[fluid aspen]

I'd imagine it reduces the effectiveness of the damage reduction but doesn't change the type when it comes to damage bonuses

[lethal lagoon]

no

[echo turtle]

Is it worth stacking toughness and toughness DR for a scriers DD build or nah?

[late sapphire]

toughness yes

15 toughness nodes good

5% dr nodes eh

[fluid aspen]

So I think rending + carapace still gets bonus damage from carapace damage, but it also gets recuded less because of rending

[echo turtle]

I can grab the CDR and toughness DR and then the DR in scriers, or take the crit chance instead and not worry so much

[echo turtle]

It does

[fluid aspen]

[rigid sky]

More important is toughness replenishment imo

Things like quietitude, soulstealer, mettle

[late sapphire]

i take the dr node

[rigid sky]

Even warp replenishment if you can afford the points

[fluid aspen]

It is important but since all nodes are based off toughness%, building more toughness gives you double the benefits

[rigid sky]

Basically all of the big flagship talents are great, just need to have a sensible configuration

[rigid sky]

That is true. At least get full toughness curios as minimum.

But the most important thing is that toughness bar always goes up

[fluid aspen]

[rigid sky]

Hence warp replenishment being better than it looks

[fluid aspen]

I need to get more capped Toughness curios

[rigid sky]

Because during Scrier's Gaze you don't trigger many of your other replenish nodes

Apart from mettle

[fluid aspen]

Sure you do, unless you play gun psyker

[rigid sky]

Scrier's Gaze is mostly for gun psyker anyway

[fluid aspen]

Purg Waprfire Scrier

[rigid sky]

Staff builds with it are possible but an extreme minority

Yeah that one is basically it

I tried it with voidstrike to start with lmao

First psyker game in patch 13

Put me off the class for like a month

[fluid aspen]

Would be nice with a Surge Voidstrike but the warp buildup is just such a pain to manage

Though I think there is a blessing that does quell on kill or something

[rigid sky]

Transfer peril

[fluid aspen]

Yea

[rigid sky]

Huh, fun idea

Still doubt it works so well

[fluid aspen]

Does it go on Staves at all or just force swords?

Oh it does

Yeah and it's on weakspot hits which is the whole schtik of Voidstrike

[rigid sky]

Yeah, before patch 13 i used to use a transfer/warp flurry staff with quietitude as a pseudotank

Way prefer nexus/Surge style now though

[ornate hamlet]

what blessings are bis for revolver?

Empowered psionics, double wall, brain blitz, with voidstrike? Very effective.

[rigid sky]

Probably wouldn't bother with empowered psionics with a voidstrike, i find the staff is effective enough to be leaned on more. Also idk if I would use rupture with it, since that's what my nexus surge voidstrike does best already

I use DD atm with it

Since it has great weakspot/crit modifiers

[ornate hamlet]

I use the BB for big things like crushers.

[rigid sky]

And Shriek helps me go wide

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike for everything else.

[rigid sky]

I just nuke them with the voidstrike lmao

[ornate hamlet]

and if you hit both shields off, the benefit from BB stacks where you can spam it twice as fast.

[rigid sky]

I 2 shot them, 1 shot sometimes even

[ornate hamlet]

With powered psionics, it costs no peril, provided you keep hitting little guys.

[rigid sky]

That bit sounds cool though

[ornate hamlet]

Little elites.

It's like a .5 second cast.

for no peril

and more dmg

[rigid sky]

Might try walls on my trauma since I run BR EP on it already

Using bubble atm

[supple dock]

Assuming I have combat ability on my curios, what should the other 2 slots be? I've been considering either toughness or toughness regen speed

or even sprint efficiency

[radiant frigate]

i have started running health curios :v

because fuck burstpoxers

[rich spindle]

People like to take rending on crit but I think its overrated and speedload or c roulette are probably better

[nova bridge]

Really liking the surge staff.

[rich spindle]

I think surgical is the best blessing, gives you the most crit chance, and revolver is all about fishing for crit s

[radiant frigate]

surgical hand cannon is pretty much core imo

[rigid sky]

Great staff to start on and works at any level

Recommend taking Venting Shriek with it (and Creeping flames)

[supple dock]

yeah surge eats peril

[nova bridge]

Aye, I have been feeling the peril lol

[supple dock]

each cast is like 20 or something

[rich spindle]

My take is that hand cannon only gives you a little boost to headshotting maulers and crushers, and even then you need to be lucky with crits to kill a crusher in 5 shots

[rigid sky]

Also Surge can leave you vulnerable to hordes

[supple dock]

yeah you need like an illisi or a dueling sword with assail to fight off hordes well

[rich spindle]

Whereas speedload will benefit you through the entire game

[supple dock]

shit I think even the chain sword works

[rigid sky]

Well I just Shriek at them mostly lmao

[nova bridge]

Oh, just went with brain burst if I want to snipe elites.

[rigid sky]

But my voidstrike does have illisi too

Oh wait surge

Tbh Surge snipes elites too

I would take assail or smite

Atm I'm doing smite with it

[nova bridge]

Cool, yet to try them. Will give them a go

[supple dock]

surge has decent rage but some snipers have nasty angles

[rigid sky]

Otherwise you have overlapping stuff

[rigid sky]

If you aren't in zap range, you can often LMB spam them

[rich spindle]

Surge range is suprisingly far

[rigid sky]

But being able to stall with smite until creeping Flames comes off CD is a great way to deal with overpressure

Just don't overdo the smiting lol, you're still meant to prioritise targeting the elites and specials

[rich spindle]

You have to be pretty skilled to use smite well imo

[radiant frigate]

to be fair you need to have a pretty high IQ to understand smite

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

[rigid sky]

Just don't be one of those super passive players who run smite with shield

[nova bridge]

So surge isn't really for hordes then?
More of away to shut down gunlines and dudes with big armour?

[rigid sky]

Surge hits 2 targets.

[radiant frigate]

surge is a single target weapon pretty much

[rigid sky]

And it only barely hits that second target.

[radiant frigate]

one target it hits hard the second it hits lightly

[rigid sky]

It's a single target nuke

With easy targeting, fast cast and moderate damage

[nova bridge]

ohhhhh, I thought it hit everyone due to the lightening effect.

[rich spindle]

It stunlocks 2 dudes so I spam it into mauler hordes

[rigid sky]

Old Surge used to hit like 5-6

[radiant frigate]

it used to be a kind of forked lightning

[rigid sky]

New surge is single target mostly

[radiant frigate]

very effective against shootymans back in the day

[nova bridge]

Okay, how I see my hordes can get into my face. Cool.

[rigid sky]

If you want the old surge functionality, you can take smite

[radiant frigate]

recommend running it with illisi and/or assail

perhaps both

[rigid sky]

And I would definitely take illisi force sword

[radiant frigate]

surge assail illisi is a very comfy setup

[rigid sky]

It's a great horde mulcher

[nova bridge]

I was wondering why a staff and ability was doing the same thing

[radiant frigate]

well one hits one target and the other hits many

[rich spindle]

Illisi surge is my go to now. So well balanced 😩

[rigid sky]

Yeah, brain rupture is a single target nuke too

So is surge staff

[radiant frigate]

bb and surge very much occupy the same niche

[nova bridge]

Cool, thank you for clarifying guys.

[rigid sky]

Hence pick either of the other blitzes, they are both good for Surge

[rich spindle]

Has anyone tested if BB or surge has higher boss dps

[radiant frigate]

in a way running surge smite is a lot like running surge bb in The Before Times

[rigid sky]

Surge is surprisingly disappointing for it tbh

[rigid sky]

Yeah, just in reverse

[radiant frigate]

someone did, and concluded that surge was slightly higher overall

idk who it was

[rich spindle]

BB has bigger chunks but surge has faster intervals that you can apply without being interrupted by specials/ trash 🤔

[radiant frigate]

either way it is a small difference and i very much prefer bb because with kinetic resonance it's like a 10s burst phase after which you can focus on different threats if they are there

surge is more constant

[rich spindle]

You have to take unyielding on surge too which is kinda hard to fit

[radiant frigate]

wonder how hard DD surge crits

[steep bridge]

I feel like this is worth getting

[supple dock]

Eh, you deal enough damage with surge without unyielding

[near wyvern]

Not worth it, void is the staff you want to use with DD

[rich spindle]

Im glnna try it when i get home lol

[rigid sky]

You want to make use of the whole bonus

And Surge doesn't weakspot.

[rich spindle]

Duh but we want to know

[rigid sky]

Warp charges do it better

[near wyvern]

And speaking of DD go right side, left side is still garbage but right side basically got buffed due to the stack drop change

[supple dock]

burn and cloud radius are really low though ):

[rigid sky]

Right side is duration or stack size?

[near wyvern]

Duration

[rigid sky]

Aw. I was hoping the other one would be workable now

[steep bridge]

Yeah, still might get it as a burner for blessing, dont own warp flurry 4 yet

[rigid sky]

Blue Bois still too unreliable?

[supple dock]

100% worth then

[radiant frigate]

that wasn't the question

[near wyvern]

Unfortunately the 4 second is way too low. Even when you consistently head shot kill for 3 stacks you simply cannot find enough targets to get it above 7-10, so good luck reaching that 25 stacks

[steep bridge]

my current deep fryer

[radiant frigate]

i have reached 25 stacks but i will say that it is inconsistent

and it feels bad when you do not reach more than 15 because at that point you are wasting a talent

[rigid sky]

Being anywhere above 15 is the watershed tbh

[near wyvern]

Where as with the duration increase you often have 10+ stacks

[rigid sky]

Anything below is sadness

[radiant frigate]

having 25 stacks is a power trip

[rigid sky]

Do you think DD is better or worse now overall?

[supple dock]

that's pretty okay, but someone correct me if I'm wrong, you want damage to be your dump stat on purg righb?

[near wyvern]

Yes and you are forced to chace blues instead of engaging with the target that is the most threat to the team

[radiant frigate]

when you cast voidstrike at a crusher and it just Fucking Dies™

[near wyvern]

With the duration you don't need to care about the blues and you still stack up

[radiant frigate]

Real

[rigid sky]

Less pressure now even with the much shorter duration

10s sounds OK tbh

Still haven't had the chance to play yet

[lyric burrow]

I need to try the 25

I find myself p close to 15 generally now without it

[near wyvern]

Going full in with duration is better than what it was, going max stacks is noticeably worse than what it was, going one point in is slightly worse than what it was but not significantly worse. One point in DD has always been only really about the other benefits than the damage buff.

[radiant frigate]

i wanna say that the extended duration can skip the 3 stacks on headshot kill

[rigid sky]

I kinda see that

Good point

[radiant frigate]

so 2 points total for a keystone

great value

this makes the numbers big and tickles the brain

[rigid sky]

Yeah, my DD builds are a little starved

More top of tree stuff

Maybe warp speed

[echo turtle]

Agreed, with surge staff you generally want warp charges.

It generated perils too quickly without warp charges to be your primary method of attack

[radiant frigate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

perhaps i do not have problems running dd surge because it is not a primary for me

[hushed pike]

This dueling sword

any good?

melk has it right now

I got almost 16k melk tokens

[radiant frigate]

not particularly

multiple reasons: 1. it is a mk II 2. no uncanny 3. meh perks

it is essentially pre-bricked

[lyric burrow]

You could make do with uncanny/precog/low maniac/ w/e other perk

At worst can take precog 4 off

Ds2 will feel worse than 4 but i like 2 the most

But it is just worse mk4

[tribal girder]

can transfer peril triger multiple times in a single hit?

what if it is a crit shot with surge void? does it at least proc twice?

[cinder moon]

this has always been my primary complaint about DD

you can get WC from way more sources and from teammates, the downside is consuming them when using ability

15 stacks of DD with longer uptime is a nice compromise, but you definitely do feel pressured into prioritizing blue guys

also blue outlines disappear when there's any amount of soulblaze happening

[late sapphire]

if you invest the extra point or two all of the pressure goes away, really

[cinder moon]

15 stacks with longer uptime seems like the best version of DD

[late sapphire]

I'm totally willing to spend a point going 4 to 10 to let me actually prioritize targets properly

[cinder moon]

trying to keep 25 brings me back to the original WC design where you had to BB everything in sight to keep max stacks

[fluid aspen]

Getting 3 stacks for a weakspot kill with something like Assail or voidstrike does help quite a lot as well

[cinder moon]

bb gives 3 stacks as well

bb/bubble/dd with voidstrike felt like cheating ngl

[fluid aspen]

I'm running assail, bubble and DD in one of my builds, with voidstrike and dueling

Good times

[late sapphire]

bb is great for that 'kill x enemies with weakspot kills in a row' penance too, for that reason

[cinder moon]

new or old penance?

[lapis violet]

SO THEY NOT ONLY MAKE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S EVEN HARDER TO DO

BUT ALSO MAKE THE ORIGINAL ONE LESS THAN HALF AS DIFFICULT????

that's it, i'm calling GW. the game's shutting down in eta 3 hours

/j

[cinder moon]

the new one took me like 3 matches

[lapis violet]

is it in one mission?

[cinder moon]

nah

[lapis violet]

oh, that was an overreaction

[cinder moon]

1800s is 30 minutes so

[lapis violet]

a half-overreaction because warp battery being this easy is nowhere near fair

[dusk void]

Basically the whole mission

[cinder moon]

one really long mission might work

[lapis violet]

realistically not that terrible because DD makes you able to get 3 stacks at once and you don't need to kill elites/specs

[cinder moon]

yeah, it was going really slow for me while i was using assail, switched to voidstrike/bb and sped through the last 2/3rds of the timer

[lapis violet]

(3 stacks are ez if you play the correct build with it, assail)

[cinder moon]

only if assail works for how you play

[dusk void]

Is anyone here trying to get the 100 auric missions completed penance? Cuz I’m pretty sure that I’m closer to 100, but the update resets the number of auric missions I’ve done. 🤦‍♂️

[cinder moon]

the auric tracker isn't retroactive to before the penance update, sadly

none of the mission trackers are tbh

i've just been playing aurics to knock out all of the difficulty penances without having to continuously look to see which i didn't do yet

[queen trout]

If the trackers were retroactive I'd have most of them done on release

[frail harness]

You'd still be sitting there accepting penances to this day

[willow hazel]

Yeah it's good. Replace melee crit% for carpace, flak, or unyielding. Swap either blessing for Uncanny Strike

[tribal girder]

@near wyvern I m trying to make a scryer build with void assail and dd, with warp flurry and surge. Thoughts?

[silent bay]

can anyone recommend a good brain burst build to knock out penances with?

[inner pilot]

HELO GOODE OR BAD

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[radiant frigate]

not so bad since you can do it over multiple missions, it's just "use DD for a while"

[radiant frigate]

good (for a purgatus)

[mighty cipher]

Thats hot

That's real hot

[inner pilot]

ok but now what blessings do i want

[radiant frigate]

flurry nexus

[untold niche]

god damn

[mighty cipher]

And crit chance and flak

[mighty cipher]

Brother, update your mods

[untold niche]

yeah i know

[lapis violet]

was DD bugged perchance?

[untold niche]

duration? i heard first stack always 4 second isntead of 10 second

[lapis violet]

it was onlyt giving me the initial stack gain buff instead of giving me stacks

until i got killed and revived

i thought i misplaced my points in DD to what i originally had them like which made DD fall off super fast (nigh instantly) but even after going back to my old build, it still did that

as if it was only giving me the 2.5s movement buff

[mighty cipher]

DD isnt bugged, the UI is. there's too many buffs on screen so onoly some of them show up

[lapis violet]

oh!

that would make sense

wasn't necessarily noticing them but once i gained stacks when fighting enemies solo, they did actually appear

[primal plume]

ive noticed something about pox grenades
toughness gates the health damage
meaning inside the bubble, you wont take health damage because the regen tick for toughness will gate the pox damage

[lapis violet]

so it wasn't me getting killed

[untold niche]

LMAO

wait no

bubble

[lapis violet]

so long you're with friends

[untold niche]

removes pools

thats why flamer doesn't work inside bubble

[lapis violet]

oh bubble

[primal plume]

im talking about pox grenades

and the smoke

[untold niche]

so bubble also removes the pox grenade pool

[lapis violet]

bubble shuts down ALL PROJECTILES and now it seems also puddles of all kinds

[primal plume]

it doesnt

[lapis violet]

and pox gas is 100% classfied as a puddle with an above effect

[digital narwhal]

Gimme Psyker names, quickly

[lapis violet]

mine is Jibril, aka archangel gabriel from Quran

[primal plume]

It doesnt. Bubble does not remove pox smoke

[lapis violet]

my other psyker is Verbose

[primal plume]

pox smoke thats already active will not be removed by the bubble

[untold niche]

could be it doesn't visually remove the pool

[primal plume]

the pox smoke remains active. I just did a game where I bubbled inside an already active pox smoke and still took toughness damage

[patent steeple]

I have a feeling some people either speedran to level 30 without getting good gear after, or somehow got themselves to level 30 via cheating or something...

i say that because I met a few zealots with no border/insignia cosmetics in auric, and they were utter garbage... in fact, one of them was level 30 but did not have an ult other than the starter one (as in, Chastise the Wicked, not even the upgraded version named Fury of The Faithful)...

[regal jasper]

do curios really matter?

im running +2 wounds and +15% more health

[lapis violet]

some +45% of hp stats total or more downs before you're out are nothing to scoff at

[regal jasper]

ah true

[untold niche]

my game crashed lmao

[lapis violet]

some people don't know anything about the crafting system or know that it's only worth investing plasteel after 30

and some people also want to know what auric is like

[untold niche]

damn not even the ability? then yeah most likely cheats

[cinder moon]

what? chastise doesn't exist anymore as such, it's replaced by fury

[lapis violet]

i've met a lvl 30 ogryn with a 270 golden stubber

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/zragon-infinity-monkey-funny-hit-head-gif-25650631

[lapis violet]

observe

[untold niche]

false info doge

[lapis violet]

without getting fury?

[untold niche]

whatever curio you pick is good
curio really playstyle dependent

[patent steeple]

no, chastise is starter ability, fury of the faithful is upgraded version via skill tree...

[lapis violet]

i'll do ya one better. 30 points without even getting an AURA

[frail harness]

Wounds are pretty bad tbh. Especially after the addition of med stims

[lapis violet]

chances are the people were 1. new to the game (since reaching 30 means not much) 2. wanted to try auric 3. know nothing about builds

[frail harness]

One (and only one) +3 stamina curio is a must IMO

[lapis violet]

this is psyker chat. a class which has a built-in self down

[lapis violet]

are you the guy from vet chat who runs 3x+3 stam, recon las and deadshit?

[untold niche]

in game

[frail harness]

If popping often enough to consider it in your build you really should consider playing something else

[untold niche]

@cinder moon

[untold niche]

lol

[lapis violet]

just saying that wounds aren't as bad to get on a regular psyker build than with other classes

[frail harness]

I literally said one and only one +3 stamina. It's the very first phrase in the comment lmao

[untold niche]

how to see people build?

[lapis violet]

I'M BLIND OKAY

[echo turtle]

im a fan of a stam curio

[patent steeple]

yeah i guess that makes sense, i retract that statement about it possibly being cheats, but i am still somehow mad about the fact some people dont spend all the points...

[frail harness]

Stamina is excellent. It's always relevant. Free resource

[lapis violet]

hear me out, +48% toughness

thoughts?

[untold niche]

@patent steeple how to see people build again?

[echo turtle]

its ok

[cinder moon]

was under the impression you don't get the ability at all until you have enough skill points, but then i've been >30 on all my classes since way before the rework

[echo turtle]

it doesnt help you when disablers get you, which is probably most of your deaths

[lapis violet]

can't i think. lobby pre game allows for grenade, aura, ability and mourningstar allows for the talent tree

[patent steeple]

no clue, sadly. I think its only via pressing f on people in the mourningstar and also the big nodes excluding keystones (for some reason)...

[untold niche]

ahh

[echo turtle]

+50% tough means you have potentially only 2/3 of your potential health, so that toughness needs to be almost 200% effective to even break even regarding chip damage

[untold niche]

so only in mornignstar?

[lapis violet]

for a full build, and unless i'm missing mods, yes

[untold niche]

how come the game performance so bad now

or jsut me

[cinder moon]

i get constant LOD issues

FPS dips

game ran flawlessly from early access through to maybe patch 12

[untold niche]

game feel very laggy

the mod that hide buffs

doesn't seem to be working

[near wyvern]

You need transfer peril for that but honestly it's not worth the trouble, at some point you need to "let it go" or you will explode, which is another thing to worry about in the midst of the battle.

Honestly with void, flurry nexus and stun shield or dome is the way to go, it's an anti range / horde staff with little peril gen so might as well bring that team protection. You can also do creeping flames for more AOE damage when things are apart.

And assail + void has just too much overlap

You really want smite when going with void to give you a breather if you get overwhelmed and to safely deal with bursters within the horde and not blowing them up on your zealot

For melee, anything with uncanny strike works

[fluid aspen]

Imagine not swapping to Dueling sword when Scrier hits 100% for that sweet Warp Rider damage

[lapis violet]

ahem....

[radiant frigate]

does it, now

[untold niche]

i love the new mael

a5mael actually felt like a5mael

so awesome

somehow game dosn't want me to claim this one

[lapis violet]

cuz you've already claimed it. happened to me

[untold niche]

ah

this one look cool

[regal jasper]

OMG I CANT EITHER

the same one too

[lapis violet]

"tome xenos" when there's been a grand total of 0 xenos encountered and we're a part of ordo hereticus

weird mismatch to me

[tough cipher]

One of them myself yeah, I was pretty hesitant to try it after reaching 30 and still am wary when it comes to auric maelstroms but i unfortunately definitely ended up griefing a few guys the first time i hopped it :/ was humbling and a good motivation to actualy try and get better tho

[marble crater]

Not doing great the first few times in a new difficulty is normal and you can't get better unless you actually try to play it

[lapis violet]

and jerks who wish to get angry at you over yourself being new should only help bolster your resolve to get better at the game than they are

[tough cipher]

I mean overall the people I met where quite nice to me when I let them know at the start of the run & even when some stuff went south.

Obviously you have some people who decide to flame and whatnot but it is what it is.

Think for me atm I find myself just panicing once people start going down & then instead of calmly trying to salvage thing i misread the surroundings and die too 🗿

[untold niche]

@plucky flax agent need help
what stats i need minimally for cknife mk3 for zealot?

[plucky flax]

What you mean stats? Modifier?

[untold niche]

as in weapon stat

the damage

pen fin

ft

[plucky flax]

Mobility 60 everything else 80.

[untold niche]

legit?

[plucky flax]

If you're using uncanny penetration can be lower.

[untold niche]

ya uncanny

then pen how much? lower 70?

[plucky flax]

Mobility can be even lower than 50%. You'd always have 5 dodges with knife.

[untold niche]

but legit all need 80?

[plucky flax]

Well you always want to aim for the best possible.

But as long as all of them 70+ is gud.

[untold niche]

as in will any bp change from say damage 80, rest 75+

if no bp change then no need god roll ofc

with uncanny, how much my pen need to be>

?

also tyhank u many many

https://tenor.com/view/monke-pat-pet-the-monke-gif-23961703

come back plos

[plucky flax]

69 is fine too.

With uncanny.

[untold niche]

thjanks alot dude
uncanny and lacerate, both need t4?

[plucky flax]

Uncanny can be t3.

Lacerate t3 is fine too just require you to hit 1 more.

But t4 is very comfy.

Aim for chest for all enemies apart from monsters and ogryns.

You don't need uncanny proc against smol dudes. Only big bois required.

[frail harness]

Lacerate

[untold niche]

thanks alot

[radiant frigate]

lace🐀e

[plucky flax]

Lacerate gud

[frail harness]

Please do not use lacerate, my heart can't take it

[radiant frigate]

it should try pumping less blood when lacerated

[frail harness]

It's working overtime 💀

[untold niche]

actually what are important BPs

like how many hit for crusher etc

then i test myself

[radiant frigate]

where is halfdan now

[plucky flax]

It's crit dependant it's not a weapon with real breakpoint.

[mighty cipher]

So I finally took a spin with the columnus

[radiant frigate]

if he was here

[mighty cipher]

Holy fuck this thing is overtuned as shit

[radiant frigate]

is it

[frail harness]

Hanging out with Quarterdan

[untold niche]

i see
so something like this already good enough? or just roll for better one if i do not want to upgrade in the future

[radiant frigate]

i hope they're having a good time

[plucky flax]

Yeah upgrade it and see how it is.

[frail harness]

So long as Three-Eighthsdan isn't around, everything's peachy

[untold niche]

brickjed

[radiant frigate]

god bless

[untold niche]

hahahaa

[radiant frigate]

another blessing for your collection

[marble crater]

Why did nobody tell me that using a heavy stubber is so much fun?

[stuck sinew]

Love the new Zealot flight ability

[marble crater]

The penance unlock makes this even better

[stuck sinew]

Idk what the thought process was to rush 8 bursters at once but it was funny

[cosmic sigil]

@regal jasper so how's the new psyker life now?

[cosmic sigil]

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I need Ammo I need Ammo I need Ammo

[echo turtle]

I gave DD a go, I had 15 stacks up for 4 minutes of a 30 minute game, there may be a visual bug because it never seemed to be on the HUD

Also the 10 second delay appears to be bugged I would often get a single stack and watch it disappear almost immediately

[cosmic sigil]

There's a ui bug. I think you need to use a mod to see it correctly

[marble crater]

That's true, but I have an excuse, it's for the penances

[cosmic sigil]

Prepatch I took survivalist everytime knew I was paired with a specific ogryn player

Also, dosing him with Simms like an athlete from the Soviet union.

[marble crater]

Getting a random injection is always nice "Oh yellow, time to shriek a lot and burn everything"

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah, stubber ogryns like their stimms

[marble crater]

I was worried at first, but it's more tanky than I thought, now I have two ogryn builds

[regal jasper]

I LOVE IT HONESTLY

oops caps

[cosmic sigil]

That just shows your enthusiasm

[elfin roost]

Gonna go out on a limb and say this sword is bad anyways

Or am I thinking of a different Duelling Sword that actually isnt good?

[marble crater]

Mk4 is better, if that's what you mean

[elfin roost]

So this one isnt an "unusable" sword?

[vestal haven]

which blessing should I be looking for in a staff?

[mighty olive]

The ai rework for dd seems worse than before patch lol highlighting mobs on the other side of the map when there's heretics on my arse

[strong gulch]

DS2 is good when you need a or want a touch more fodder clear but keep DS special and mobility. DS4 is demonstrably more DPS tho.

[strong gulch]

Depends on the staff and build. The atheneum in the pin has recommendations and example build. It's a lot of reading tho.

You can ask staff specific questions.

[vestal haven]

For purgtas and void assail build

[strong gulch]

Purg is simple.

Perks flak + what you hate most

blessings flurry + nexus

[rigid sky]

Flak + crit is also good for purg

[vestal haven]

Is assail still viable? Or is there a higher dps build now?

[rigid sky]

It is usually that or Flak + unyielding for boss dps

[rigid sky]

Assail is great. Blitzes are largely well balanced.

[strong gulch]

Void their are a few options. The highest dps option is harder to build because of the blessings.

Blessings for uptime flurry + transfer peril

 middle flurry + nexus  or surge + flurry (true aim talent is a must)

 highest dps surge + nexus

All of these assums true aim from the talent tree.

Assail is fine, but the general praxis is to take smite with void due to overlap. But also, play what you want.

Huh. Not bad for something just sitting in the shop.

[marble crater]

Don't worry, Hadron will make it so

[strong gulch]

always

https://tenor.com/view/the-book-of-boba-fett-this-is-the-way-the-armorer-mandalorian-gif-25545276

[vestal haven]

Is that good?

[marble crater]

No, don't worry about gear until you are lvl 30

[vestal haven]

I still use grey gear looking for an upgrade xD

Should I keep using grey gear?

[marble crater]

If the stats are better you can buy it, but unless you have a big stash of plasteel, don't upgrade it

[strong gulch]

For end game, no.

For just leveling, sure.

Don't worry too hard about gear until after 30. You don't get the good rolls until then and investment is the same.

[cosmic sigil]

You should probably not use staves until 30 tbh

[strong gulch]

not true

[cosmic sigil]

It will be a bad experience

[marble crater]

Used a trauma at low level, I think I blew up from casting twice

[strong gulch]

Trauma low level is terrible.

Surge low level is fine

Low level las gun turned me off guns. Low level shit is poop

[vestal haven]

haha so should I use something else?

[marble crater]

Assail

[cosmic sigil]

Last year I used a shredder with pinning fire

Now I would use assail and a ciag

[vestal haven]

difference ain't much

[vestal haven]

ciag?

Can someone link me with a good assail build?

[cosmic sigil]

Columnus infantry autogun

[marble crater]

The grey one is better, purgatus wants high burn and cloud radius

[cosmic sigil]

What level are you?

[vestal haven]

17

[cosmic sigil]

I would do that

[vestal haven]

Thanks!

[cosmic sigil]

Actually maybe not perilous combustion

[marble crater]

My suggestion looks similar

[cosmic sigil]

Not at lot of elites

I fear perilous is wasted

We're taking it because we're mostly auric players no?

[strong gulch]

Perilous scales with elites and special concentration. If there aren't many of them or frequent enough, it's not going to give you much.

It's a great node tho.

[marble crater]

I'm not an auric player yet, but yeah I picked it because we are used to a lot of elites

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah this is better I think

[strong gulch]

Even casual damnation can have a lot of enemies that perilous combustion is good for.

[echo turtle]

nice, I rolled up like a dozen duelies and got a near perfect one today myself

[marble crater]

Yeah that's probably better for now

[echo turtle]

79/80/80

its a good day for dueling swords all around

[vestal haven]

Awesome thanks, guys!

Do you know if there is a wiki? For example I am looking for the psi-veil. Can't find anything while googling lol

[echo turtle]

Combat knives feel like shit rn on the psyker. I love the knife but I took my best ones into the grinder and they felt like wet noodles compared to dueling swords or force swords

[cosmic sigil]

Don't waste money on gear or upgrades

[strong gulch]

The atheneum up in the pins

edit: lol I did't read whoops

[echo turtle]

it may be a shop item, theres actually like a few variations of it now that all look great, just keep playing and save up some dockets, you'll unlock it via penances or be able to buy it with mourning star scrip

my fave pskyer outfit is buyable with dockets, so dont worry you'll be looking slick in no time

once you hit 30 and are running damnations you'll have plenty of dockies to get some drip

[marble crater]

What's your fave outfit?

[echo turtle]

one sec

[marble crater]

I need to diversify my load outs

[echo turtle]

that facemask btw, has the sickest voice modulation

[vestal haven]

Awesome. Good to know. Just wanted to rock a helmet pre 30. Is there one that I can easily get?

[echo turtle]

it makes you sound like captian wolfer

yeah, just take a look in the cosmetic shop

theres also a bunch from penance unlocking

[vestal haven]

cosmetic shop?

[echo turtle]

yup, its in the mourning stare

star

theres a shop that sells cosmetics for dockets and one for real moneys

[cosmic sigil]

You get cosmetics with penances as well

[echo turtle]

yeah a ton

[marble crater]

Makes me sound like a heretic, I don't want to end up on the black ships

[vestal haven]

The one with real money doesn't have much options

Where is the one with dockets?

[echo turtle]

the options cycle now and then

keep checking in

at 700 and 1500 penance points there are some cool head peices

i think its the same shop actually

just a different option

i cant remember

[marble crater]

Docket shop is further left

[echo turtle]

but theres like, only 5 shops in the mourning star, you'll find it

although honestly one of the coolest ways to roll is no head gear at all

vampirically pale bald psyker with the prison skull jawline tattoos is a vibe

[marble crater]

The things you can unlock with penances are good though, I would invest the dockets into weapons instead, to then farm more dockets for drip

[tribal girder]

bruh i just completed my last auric survivoir game and it didnt count???

wtf

[marble crater]

I heard it's not working?

[tribal girder]

it even showed i got the achievment

but the name is wrong

"maelstrom survivor 1"

i was at 4/5 games and still 4/5 games now

[marble crater]

Did you join a game in progress?

[tribal girder]

yes

[marble crater]

Maybe those don't count and you need to be there from the start?

[tribal girder]

that makes no sense

i did get an achievment

but i cant find the achievement named "maelstrom survivor 1" in the penace list

this is literally the one penance i care about doing

[marble crater]

Hmm, possible it was the one for nobody in the team going down?

[tribal girder]

no

[marble crater]

Then I'm out of ideas

[tribal girder]

i got the achievement and i clicked it in hestia, got me 10 points

[cosmic sigil]

Yesterday I did a no player death run contract with no deaths... And it didn't register because the bot fucking died.

[tribal girder]

but i didnt get the one i wanted, i am still at 4/5 games

i m gonna try one more game if it doesnt work i m gonaa be so mad

i m gonna become rager

i swear to god emperor

[marble crater]

Well we don't want that, good luck

[tribal girder]

nope

i m going rager

[marble crater]

Uh oh

he is about to blow

[shadow quail]

Not been on in a while, how are we doing

balance-wise?

[mighty olive]

Psykers are the most powerful and bestest in the game!

Honestly though, gunker is really hot atm since scripts and DD got a buff

Knock on wood, they haven't really nerfed us lately

[shadow quail]

I used to use a lot of shield dome, smite for stunning and void for damage

[marble crater]

I mean, if we can do our thing we can kill things like no other class

[mighty olive]

I actually love smite with the empowered psykonics buff

[marble crater]

Nooo

[mighty olive]

Yessss

Paired with shriek it's so good xD

I have a hard time with dome builds though, I feel like I'm lacking something without shriek

[shadow quail]

Smite did used to get a bad rep but it could carry some matches

[marble crater]

Still gets a bad rep if you use it 24/7

[mighty olive]

Yes and the damage got a Lil buff which I've noticed melts normal mob hordes and finishes off specials

[shadow quail]

the people spamming it into crowds are bad

[mighty olive]

True, we have a lot of new players

[shadow quail]

but for oh shit moments and crusher waves its goted

[mighty olive]

They'll learn!

[marble crater]

Yeah, better a smite too much than missing one, I guess

[shadow quail]

Okay so looks like we aren't nerfed too much

[mighty olive]

Nah psykers are chillin, other classes aren't so lucky >_<

[shadow quail]

my second class is ogryn and asked a similar question and got a whole load of greif

[mighty olive]

I don't think zealot got messed up too bad

[marble crater]

Did zealot even have any changes this patch? I forgot

Oh yeah, momentum nerfed

[mighty olive]

Yeah people were running toughness builds on ogryn and they just didn't die, so the build got nerfed and ya gotta dodge now

It's hard to imagine such a giant dodging and pulling off matrix moves but ya know

[marble crater]

Ogryn still doesn't die, the nerfs really weren't that bad

[shadow quail]

I had been telling people for like a year toughness orgryn is OP but was told I was wrong

[mighty olive]

Oh good, I'll tell my love that he just sucks then xD (kidding, maybe...)

But now is the time to try gun psyker, I was one of those psykers that thought guns were taboo but...it's just good, period

[lunar sparrow]

after using Assail for a bit for the penance, I'm not sure I really get the hype
BB is more effective at eliminating high-priority targets and Smite is better at dealing with hordes
Assail's right click is way less reliable than BB at taking out shotgunners and the like as well, sometimes it takes me 1 hit, sometimes as many as 3
Assail's left click is only useful at close-to-mid; too close and you're taking damage because shards don't hit fast enough, too far and they get lost or switch targets randomly

[shadow quail]

Gotta try the new ogryn. I think it will be Okay but not godlike it was before.

[marble crater]

Or not, because they nerfed ammo aura

[lunar sparrow]

it's also really unsatifsying from an AV perspective

[mighty olive]

Well true but it's not terrible, unless ya get a gunlugger

[lunar sparrow]

also, why is it the "gunpsyker" ability? if you're using assail, you don't need a gun

[mighty olive]

There are times where I prefer BB as well Morgana, but assail is fun for hordes of the non carapace variety, but ya got void to pair it with that makes killing far stuff and carapace pretty easy

I use assail while running a revolver, cause the gun ain't gunna smite hordes

I mean it can but not ammo efficient

Revolver is good for sniping and killing anything but bosses

[marble crater]

The only reason I don't like assail more is that I can't take wildfire and psykinetic aura with it

[mighty olive]

Truuue

But then we'd be too op!

My other gun build is using the Columbus? Mark v, and BB, gun goes BBBRRrrrrrr for hordes, it can take big dudes out too but I like bb for snipe

[ornate hamlet]

Assail doesn't reload and has infinite ammo

[mighty olive]

That too

[ornate hamlet]

It allows you to assail hordes and use the gun for more important shit

[lunar sparrow]

is it fun for hordes? Smite is surely more reliable and also stunlocks

[ornate hamlet]

Spares ammo and still keeps you ranged

[mighty olive]

Mhm it is, it's fun watching heads pop

[ornate hamlet]

Smite has the problem of needing EP to deal damage on its own

[mighty olive]

The gun also burns bosses down very quickly now too

[shadow quail]

Nah, thats's not what smite is for

[ornate hamlet]

With assail you can branch to warp charges or DD and have increased damage on your melee and ranged too

[marble crater]

With assail you can kill an entire group of gunners/shotgunners in like 4 seconds, can't do that with BB

[shadow quail]

With assail you aren't locking down 15 crushers

[tough cipher]

So eh, is the accatran mk2 recon lasgun used on any viable psyker build? never saw it but misbought a weapon and got a sick roll so wanted to see if it's useable lol

[ornate hamlet]

You rarely need to

Just kill them

[marble crater]

Recon lasguns are not in a good spot

[shadow quail]

with? as a psyker

[tough cipher]

Nyeah don't think I ever saw any used so far lol

[mighty olive]

Assail's role isn't for elites, but your staff or gun will be

[tough cipher]

But le roll 😦

[mighty olive]

Oof

[ornate hamlet]

Dueling sword, brain burst, deimos, uhhh

Revolver

[tough cipher]

Wish my staffs rolled like that :p

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah, voidstrike and surge

[marble crater]

Surely we can have staves like that after the crafting update

[tough cipher]

Surely 🗿

[shadow quail]

the staves have been same for 6 months

2 years even

[tough cipher]

Yeahhh, i haven't been playing too much so I have okay rolls but nothing amazing

usualy always atleast a blessing or perk off on the decent rolls too but yeah i might try some more

[shadow quail]

My surge staff roll from launch is just as BIS as it was 2 years ago. This game is so dead with updates lol

[fresh reef]

replaced spidey sense with special tracker. much prefer it for the cleanliness

what do we think, siblings?

[mighty olive]

Kinds feel like the mod takes away the natural sense of "oh..shit!"

But I guess it looks fine? XD

[fresh reef]

the point is for it to just be there in case of sound bugs

[mighty olive]

Ahh got ya, that's pretty neat then

[ornate hamlet]

I don't

[ornate hamlet]

Shit, bad internet made me ill-timed on the joke

[scenic tapir]

so uhhh what's the trick to getting Perilous Focus? Because Scrier's Gaze is still so bad that even if you kill with every swing you're gonna be at 100% before you kill 20

[radiant frigate]

find a suitably large poxwalker horde, equip illisi, f, m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 achievement done

oh and do not use the finesse enhancement for this

[hexed geyser]

Can this weapon be redeemed as a defensive psyker tool? I've had it for a while now and i'm hesitating between crafting it or taking the blessing.

[inner pilot]

how do i fix this

[strong gulch]

unarmored to flak
run gun to nexus

[echo turtle]

Scriers slaps

[echo turtle]

Columnus is where it's at

The damage is through the roof

Maybe las will be good one day, but today is not that day

@lusty pilot holy moly that game

Bro picked up a grim when we were getting stomped AND dropped a health pack down right in front of a med stafion

[strong gulch]

You could play around with it. It wouldn't be terrible with changing the weak spot perk (I like maniac because mutants).

Change smackdown to flesh tearer for max bleeds.

[echo turtle]

I have 35/40 on that right now and I wasn't even trying to make it happen, I've only played a couple games with it

You can take the skills that reduce peril generation and just unload with a columnus into a huge horde and probably get it

[inner pilot]

which one

[strong gulch]

First one. I rolled for it.

[hollow current]

The first one makes me think of a grineer from war frame.

[inner pilot]

khal?

TRUE

[scenic tapir]

Ok the illisi did it, I've been using the wrong sword since alpha I guess

[cinder moon]

scrier's illisi is hilarious

i've been thinking about making one with that peril quell blessing specifically for scrier's memes

[celest hedge]

Is the icon for disrupt destiny broken or does the stack gain on weakspot kill only apply if you do get it against the marked enemy?

[rich spindle]

I just tried to make all or nothing work on caxe lol

psyker stam regen is just too fast

[celest hedge]

psyker guide seems to say it has to be a headshot against the marked enemy, I felt liek something was off with it

[rich spindle]

its bugged after last update

[rich spindle]

wait this might actually be goated

[celest hedge]

as in what triggers the bonus stacks or the icon for the stacks themselves?

[rich spindle]

just the icons

[celest hedge]

i'll give it a few more games for the penance but i'm really not feeling it or gaze

[rich spindle]

DD and gaze are the craziest damage multipliers in the game but other psyker play is definitely easier

[cinder moon]

give it a try and let me know, i'm low on resources after spending 20k plasteel trying to get nexus 4 on a trauma 😭

[rich spindle]

i guess just slaughterer as the other one

[cinder moon]

or unstable power

[rich spindle]

insane

yoyo illisi

literally no downsides....

[cinder moon]

i think slaughterer would still be better since it's 40% extra power vs unstable's 20

[rich spindle]

I just realized its 40 now that you said it

basically straight better than unstable lol

[cinder moon]

yeah at max stacks

[rich spindle]

5 kills is so easy

[cosmic sigil]

Activate swing done

I would take unstable with slaughterer on illisi or on Deimos If I ran purga

[cinder moon]

like, it's pretty sad how much better slaughterer is vs any of the other + damage perks

[cosmic sigil]

Iirc it has been nerfed

With p13

[cinder moon]

isn't it still 8% for slaughterer 4?

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

So no?

[cinder moon]

and it stacks 5 times

executor caps at 30% but they have to be weak spot hits, unstable caps at 20% based on peril

[cosmic sigil]

Slaughterer and headtaker on hsword weren't touched then

[rich spindle]

superiority is kinda awesome with gaze. long +30% power buff after every shotgunner pack you run up to

[cosmic sigil]

Do you activate your illisi during SG?

[cinder moon]

why bother, it increases peril

when i did the scrier's kill penance i just light spammed

[rich spindle]

i never activate during sg

ends it so much faster

[cinder moon]

i do think exorcist might actually be worth taking for a hyper specific scier's melee build

[celest hedge]

yeah screw this, I thought all the loner zealot stuff was gonna be the only skill penance I never unlock but scire destiny feels so bad that I'm never going to bother

[cinder moon]

assail was the only psyker penance i really disliked

besides malleus still being private

[meager pulsar]

Assail just feels ehhh

[celest hedge]

assail has no problem to use, it's just a specific class of enemy you have ot kill if I have to remmber

[meager pulsar]

Smite is kind of boring because of how simple it is and how team reliant

[celest hedge]

stil lbetter than the weapon speicalist one for veteran

[cinder moon]

smite is funny though

[mighty cipher]

You’re having troubles with the scrier’s gaze penance?

[meager pulsar]

And BB built out right is strong and kinda easy

[celest hedge]

gaze just doesn't feel good and I don't like right keystone either

[meager pulsar]

I actually have no issue using this build weaving fanning revolver and mk6 knife melee

[cosmic sigil]

I just wanted to be sure that's why

[meager pulsar]

Maxing the weapon specialist tree is not smart tho

[opaque tendon]

[mighty cipher]

Kek

[cinder moon]

[celest hedge]

assail I feel is really fun to weave in melee and assail hits, throw a few shards, switch to melee to heal peril and maybe get empowered psionics, than swtich back to assail and throw 2/3 more shards before going back

[mighty cipher]

How are people struggling with it? I literally got it by accident.

[meager pulsar]

Same

[opaque tendon]

eh first game with scrier gaze since update. it'll happen eventually i'm sure

[meager pulsar]

actívate scriers gaze lmb with dueling sword

[celest hedge]

for weapon specialist I just take the reload on switch since I never push or anything and then I just take toughness regen when you use your stacks since toughness regen is always good

[calm sapphire]

Not playing on auric prob

[rich spindle]

best i can do rn lol

[meager pulsar]

Yup reload on switch lets you fill the revolver without ever having to deal w the animation

[mighty cipher]

Just run a max quell staff. You can literally outquell gaze for a good 20 seconds easily. That should be more than enough time to do it.

[cinder moon]

most of what i see people saying about how good assail is generally boils down to "just have a billion APM like you're permanently on celerity stimms"

[celest hedge]

i just run las pistol because i value the melee attack speed and dodge distance alot, so I need a gun with alot of ammo to amke sure I can always get stacks, and pistol is both an easy hip fire and benefits alot from the free crit

[opaque tendon]

see horde > pop gaze > left click go brr

[meager pulsar]

it is an apm dependent abilty yea

you can guide the missiles while meleeing or using a ranged weapon

so unless you need more out theres no reason to have darts in hand

[celest hedge]

melee shards melee shards is simple to run but it feels fun to me

[opaque tendon]

melee shards melee shards

[cinder moon]

i'd rather just smite or BB, assail gives me a headache

[meager pulsar]

bb with the fire spread abilities and synergy is goofy strong with 0 input other than charge voidstrike and lmb

[cinder moon]

yes

[meager pulsar]

always top damage

[celest hedge]

BB purge was always fun to use, even in the old system

[meager pulsar]

always most dead specials

[cinder moon]

i love out-plasma'ing vets

hearing voidstrike proc surge multiple times through a big horde is pure dopamine

[calm sapphire]

more often than not a vet plasma user can easily outperform u in specialist kills

a zealot revolver user can do the same if not better

[echo turtle]

I was trying one out, if you keep getting weakspot hits you can get your scrier stacks up pretty high, but that means you are either not taking uncanny or slaughterer and both increase your damage so much I don't think its actually worth it

[crimson estuary]

ye deleting specials through hordes with plasma is satisfying

[cinder moon]

my baseline for illisi is deflector+slaughterer so i suppose uncanny+slaughterer would be a step up in itself

[echo turtle]

its a bit of a let down. I was testing in the grinder. Illisi crits without uncanncy do as much damage as normal hits with uncanny stacked. That blessing is really important on the illisi rn

uncanny slaught is what I run. if you find you're getting shot to peices a lot probs drop slaught for deflector

i feel like they toned down the shooters a touch at some point, so I just go max damage

[cinder moon]

i just bring it for my surge/smite build, i rarely use it unless i need to move up to a bunch of shooters my teammates aren't handling

[echo turtle]

I use it a lot on my surge smite build

but, a deflector sword works well in that build

[cinder moon]

i like being able to walk up to shooters while ignoring them

think this is the illisi i'm still using

[rich spindle]

Ok my take away

Chaining weakspots is a bit harder than u think

I was at 10% power permanently while clearong easy hordes but if you miss once or the horde breaks up you go to 100 peril fast

Faster than I could find another group to chain on

[cinder moon]

i imagine your cooldown for next scrier's was close to being done anyway

[rich spindle]

Sp basically maybe good for hab dreyko and like ascension riser

[rich spindle]

Yeah

[brittle cargo]

What perks/blessings should I run on mk6 combat blade for gun psyker? (I know dueling sword is better, I just wanna go fast)

[rich spindle]

Can't go wrong with both dodge blessings

[brittle cargo]

Melk has a 380 with +crit chance and lacerate, maybe I’ll cop and slap riposte on there for the crit memes

[rich spindle]

i'm not sure how reliable bleed crit is for psyker

[terse agate]

Whats the best talent build for psyker who enjoys using a staff

[rich spindle]

and I think lacerate is kind of a noob trap, it encourages you to hit the body with knife which does so much less damage

[terse agate]

Is it possible to have it recharge automatically

[rich spindle]

what do you mean recharge automatically

[brittle cargo]

Oh I meant fleshtearer, not lacerate if that’s better

[terse agate]

I mean the staff when its going power outages

When im using itttt

And I have to press R

[rich spindle]

you need uncanny to make the bleed dots do good damage against big guys

its pretty good on zealot, you can try it on psyker too

[brittle cargo]

Will try, thanks

[brittle cargo]

You could change the keybind from R to a mouse button, makes it much easier

[ornate hamlet]

Quelling has a passive side to it that kicks in after you don't build peril for a few seconds

It's slower than active quelling, but it allows you to do other actions in the meantime

[terse agate]

Hmmm but is it no possible to have it recharge automatically? With talent or perks

[ornate hamlet]

Some things allow something like that

There's a headshot blessing for one of the staves (maybe more than one?) that quells peril on headshot

There's a talent with a chance to quell peril on kill

Force swords have a little variant that quells peril with chained headshots

[terse agate]

Hmmmm thank you I will look into that then

[fresh reef]

this is legitimately so fucking painful

how do people use shield unironically

[unique knot]

Honestly it’s not too bad, since if you play on higher difficulty missions you can build up the bar pretty quickly. I completed mine after 6 of them.

[fresh reef]

checks out, I suppose

I got a little over 25k from one match

but I also hate using shield so having to play it for more than one match hurts me

[unique knot]

I understand, since I’m the same as well; being a venting shriek user. But once you finish the penance, you won’t have to go back to using the shield again.

[fresh reef]

true

I mainly play Shriek and Scrier's, so having something that's purely defensive just feels off for me