#psyker-class
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They made hab dreyko harder? 😔
Surge and smite does kind of feel weird. However I am only 20. It seem Psyker really wants to be 30
Smaller area and elites/specials spawn more often on that elevated area.
EP smite with vent is great because vent doesn't remove EP stacks
and easy to gain 3 EP stacks if you manage to lose them
The tree also spits something that causes corruption 
Does Enhanced smite usually do a shitton of damage over the course of a mission?
kind of
like, 700k on my first try type damage?

Thats hot

rampage>uncanny, crit dmg>flak? cara?
Yeah something like that, definitely swapping Rampage to Uncanny, not sure about the crit dmg yet
Is Disrupt Destiny any good now?
EP smite now melting the hoard
How fast
We do a little EP smite+venting shriek, as a treat
ep smite is the ever
Did they change anything about the stack condition of Disrupt Destiny? Do you still get f'd by low priority marks and teammates killing your marks?
New Psyker/player. I just reached level 11, but I don't know what are the best weapons to use, and how to get the best weapons? Should I focus on upgrades? Also how to decrease the chaos build up?
peril buildup on blitzes is static, staffs and force swords have a warp resistance stat so it just gets more efficient with gear
you choose and make your weapon based on your playstyle's needs
Should I buy weapons that have those stats?
Generally you want to stick to staves for your primary. Melee has some exclusive swords as well which interact with your Peril. You can find good builds for all of the staves, for swords you're better off sticking to Illisi or Deimos, depending on which one you like more.
Decreasing Peril buildup comes down to stats on warp weapons, and skill tree nodes which are usually tied to a condition
Sword and Staff. I know that already, but I see different stats on each staff and I feel lost haha.
I've been having good fun running a Warpfire build with a Dueling Mk4 and a Purgatus staff, just setting everything ablaze 
While leveling, you don't have access to the higher tier rolls and versions of things. So don't focus too much on gear. If you find somthing that you like and want to upgrade a couple of times before level 11, go for it.
Some weapons are piles of poo unless that have great rolls.
Peril, aka the chaos, can be actively lowered by quelling (reload button) while weilding weapons or blitzes that use the peril mechanic; there is also the venting shriek ability that will quickly quell 50% of your peril. There is also passive quelling when you weild non-warp weapons.
Honestly, I think Psyker has by far the most build variety, and the builds are very distinct. So look around and see what you enjoy
my advice is to rotate between each staff type (there are 4) while you level to 30 and determine which one suits you best
Psyker comes together after 30. Play around with things, but know that some lower versions don't represent and "properly" built version due to scaling.
then try to find a good base weapon for that staff type to upgrade
Like the trauma staff. It's a polarizing staff, but it is doodoo without good rolls.
I am sorry, but a noob question which staff gives the blue flame effect?
Purgatus is the flamethrower one
But there are some nodes in the skilltree that can also get you Warpfire like "Perilus Combustion" that sets enemies around a killed elite or specialist on fire
Can I get it early?
Armory sells better weapons based on your level. Once you're 30 the shop will have a higher range of stuff for sale
Trauma - Ground explosion
Voidstrike - Bowling ball projectile
Purgatus - Flamethrower with flame puff left click
Surge - Emperor Palp
Thank you!
Purg is the last staff unlock 
Should I worry about weapons while leveling to 30?
Not about the rolls, but trying out new types you see in the armory
Buy whatever interests you up to 30. Don't worry about min maxing until 30
Especially cus some that only exist as level 2 or 3 can be a huge pain to get at 30
Another great source of soulblaze is Venting Shriek with the Creeping Flames modifier
i made a bubble/brain burst/warp charge build to use with voidstrike just to get the bubble penance, now i actually kind of like it 
also learned you can crit barrels and detonate them with a single shot if you have surge
I made a Purgatus Warpfire build for the "In Fire Reborn" node for the Warp Battery penance, my favorite build so far
I just wish I could deal with stuff further than 10 meters 

I am desperately trying to find an extra point so I can get some more peril reduction from Battle Meditation so I can keep Scrier up longer
i just need malleus now and i'll be done with psyker penances
Creeping Flames is mid range, brain rupture is long range
Yeah I have brain rupture, but it's a massive PITA if there's like 3-4 normal ranged plebs in the back of the room
Because BR is so slow
Control the horde entirely so your backing can shoot them
See that they have revolvers and plasmas
Yeah that's the ideal situation
spec kinetic resonance, pop bubble, enjoy
Though with the changes to Disrupt Destiny I'll give it another shot, maybe I'll swap from warp charges to that instead
Warp Charges are spent when I pop Scrier anyway
What should I sacrifice?
Burn it
nothing
It's shit
any stuff with blessings you don’t
Bricked unfortunately
Bad blessings and perks I'm afraid
sell that staff because it's bad
Oh that’s a surge
Crit chance is okay
nexus/flurry are ideal for surge
Yea uhhh toss it
blazing spirit and run n gun are useless
(on surge)
i don't think it has a weak spot interaction either
unless you're LMBing, but that's a waste of a perk anyway
Man I wish Surge got Transfer Peril
LMB spam would be so much better
love killing snipers with staff lmb before the vet can deal with it
same bolt as void/trauma
I have never used that staff 
Surge has Blazing?
I'd try surge staff with blazing spirits.
No it doesn't that guy is just hacking.
Mostly the same bolt
But Surge staff has crit bonus
If that affects LMB anyway
But if it does, then it'll probably be a bit better on Surge than the others
Also petition that we all refer to the staff with its full name
Because nomanus implies that the staff helps you to eat ass.
DD consistently marking the farthest pleb hiding behind 3 walls running away 
Tac axe + revolver gaming (I-IX-E-F, auric maelstrom)
Not unique but it does have a very good crit chance
I'd wish it had some sort of "damage jumps to another target" like the rmb, less damage of course
We all want flavoured staff LMBs tbf
Atm the main difference is that my trauma sometimes randomly sets things on fire
Disrupt Destiny stacks don't go past 5 on the HUD 
And yeah 1 enemy hiding across the room being marked and denying your stacks is just dumb. I'd rather have the stupid RNG of In Fire Reborn than this
Fair enough
Weakspot Kills giving 2 stacks is nice with Assail but that's about it
I bet this is weakspot kills on marked giving +2 for a total of 3, not just any weakspot kills 
Either the range needs to be smaller so enemies can't just hide and deny your stacks, or mark like 3 enemies at a time and killing one resets the mark on all or something
Right now it's still a pain to use and not worth the bonuses it gives
15% damage? 6 stacks of Warp Siphon gives you 24%
I guess WS is "base damage" whatever that means
Also crit and weakspot damage
For voidstrike, Assail and many guns and melees, that's significant
It definitely isn't worth it for my Crit Purg build that I wanted to use it on simply because it's such a pain to keep the stacks with the way it marks enemies
And Assail getting free casts with extra damage from Empowered Psionics still seems better to me than Disrupt Destiny
It needs to be more than just assail getting boosted
And BB is unusable without Empowred Psionics
Assail alone isn't enough to make DD worth it
Assail, Voidstrike and Illisi, or Assail, CIAG and DS4, go with it way better
Kinetic Resonance can be enough
EP makes it way better but I run brain rupture on my warp Siphon Purgatus build too
It's more secondary for that though, emergency anti-ranged
Yea exactly
With EP it can be on the level of any full on weapon
Warp Siphon is for the extra damage and toughness/peril resist per stack
Scrier's Gaze 
Idk, I guess Gaze works better on purgatus than the other staves
For me it is just The Gunker Ability
Which is why I'm glad I could make it work with a staff
And Empathic Evasion is a massive help when I'm range limited
Fucking love EE whenever I can get away with taking it

Purgatus is its best usecase too
Wish I could get Deflector on the Dueling Mk4 for that sweet ranged block
Or Blazing Spirit 
They need to add another teat to the tree
I am well bored with the current ones
They have been sucked dry
New class.
I'd rather them make other classes' trees more interesting first
Feels like everyone has 1-2 good builds, then Psyker has like 5+ 
Zealot has loads of variety. Lots of good melee weapons and all 3 keystones are gud.
Momentum nerf tho
Seems like I've pissed off someone 
Yeah I need to level my Zealot... Want to try that monstrosity 1-shot hammer build I've seen a few times
I’ve found way more wacky shit to do with vet personally altho I will admit there’s like two meta builds
But vet not needing keystones gives you a ton of freedom
It's more about how the other 3 classes feel a bit more typecast where as Psyker can focus on melee, range, tank and anything in-between
Psykers do have 4 very different staves, and gun builds

But you don't even have a zealot, so that's a strong opinion.
The swords too, with stuff like Deflector to block ranged attacks with. Pair that with Kinetic Deflection and a +3 stam trinket and you're facetanking monstrosities like an Ogryn with a shield; without having to run a low-damage melee
Psyker definitely has the best free fashion
Don't know much about the Ogryn ones but most of the cool looking stuff on Zealot and Veteran are paid mtx bull
the new penances really upped the free fashion game
just a little annoyed the shades of black aren't consistent
i actually really like the new green pants for the cape
Which I guess makes sense, but not that kind of freaks
I love the last tier of upper body bits, lots of cool looking armor while still keeping elements of Psyker visuals
Which reminds me I still need to do Malleus Monstronum 
Yeah
plenty of real pub matches where i do >50% of boss damage with brain burst
literally my first ogryn match after the update i got the bullrush penance
zealot's is the only one that really deserves to be private
What are these unlocked by?
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They changed "Warp Battery" from having to keep the max warp charges for 300 seconds to 120 seconds and I was upset about that because I finally completed that penance about a week ago. At least it's easier now for new players or those who have yet to complete it
They should've kept the original, but make a easier version as well.
How the fuck do you do that penance?
They made it easier??
Ree
Now the plebes will share my cool outfit
Kill elites and specials often and regularly to maintain warp charges
just use a build where you get WC from elite kills/kinetic flayer and bring voidstrike/purgatus
it's just X seconds at max WC, doesn't have to be consecutive
Old one had to be consecutive, did they change that part too, on top of fewer seconds?
i don't remember it being consecutive and i did it in the before times ™️
I found it best to use the skill that gives you a 10% chance on gaining a warp charge from soulblaze kills and using a purgatus staff
in fire reborn is one way to do it
It's consecutive, otherwise people wouldn't have such a hard time completing them
It also helps to try getting it on a map that keeps spawning enemies on your way to extract
it used to be harder to get WC at all because there was no way to make BB faster without dumping your stacks, and teammates stealing your BB kills didn't attribute WC, until it did
I used surge with shock troop gauntlet, basically sniped them to maintain warp charges
but i had to double check and yeah, it used to be consecutive and psychic communion was the way to make it less annoying
anyway, all you need to do now is have max WC for 120 seconds cumulatively
which is super easy
Consecutive AND all warp charges fell off when the timer hit. Such a ball ache earning it on launch
But it's still consecutive now right? Or do you just need 120 seconds total in one mission?
Easy af now
yeah, even 300s wasn't that bad once it was cumulative and WC decayed by 1 instead of the whole stack
It was one of the harder once, but still doable in a regular game yeah
I worked so hard to get it the other month. Hard af
When the game first released I heard you got warp charges for normal enemies too, not just specials
yeah, you had to constantly spam BB in order to keep up the WC
and teammates stealing kills could ruin your progress
Yeah but there were a lot fewer of them back then unlike the tidal waves you get now. Also BB was super fucking slow and lit up enemies like a glow stick so everyone would shoot the baddy
Very annoying
at some point they made it so being over 50 or 75% progress on the BB would still award the WC if a teammate landed the killing blow, which was nice
Must...grind...penances..must get psy veil! Sad the veil is 3200, grumble!
Must grind for poses
must grind for poses
Yea that's true
iirc the max was 4, you gained a guaranteed warp charge for brainbursting any enemy including fodder, and i think you didn't consume warp charges when shrieking
it did all disappear at once tho so u needed to make sure to brainburst a random enemy every now and then but
Yeah but eventually you got talents to generate them so you just ignored warp charges if weren't' not dumb
Of course it didn't stop people from thinking you needed max stacks to play psyker optimally
Max stacks had some funny breakpoints
It ironically made psyker hit breakpoints that vet had to rely on exec stance for
And carried that damage to melee
Sour Milk...
I found my solution to playing Gunker, use assail and melee all the time, treat my gun like a nuke for big things
Unless that is how you are supposed to play it anyway 
does venting shriek count as psykinetics wrath for penances?
want to make sure fatshark isn't oversighting things again.
It should, the only penance I had to do "naked" was the ogryn box in the eye one
making sure before i spam nearly dying on sedition.
I don't remember using the base version of shriek for anything
it works
Get a surge staff with 10 warp resistance and you can just play normally 
i had one with 6 before
this patch made blitz abillties even less relevant.
How so?
scriers gaze eats up all the peril anyways
plus gunker doesnt really need assail or brainburst.
smite is smite...
Do you mean just less relevant for gunker?
Its the same outside of gunker
Pretty irrelvant but might get used a few times in a mission.
gunker meanwhile has been no blitz abillties for entire game.
I used my blitz the majority of the mission earlier
Is psyker at the point where there is actually multiple good builds or is there just 1 meta load out?
And what are they/it
Loads of good Psyker builds
All 4 staffs are viable, multiple kinds of gun psykers work
Check the pins for Psyker guide. Multiple example builds
Heard
There's stuff that's not great. Mk II force sword is very meh whereas V is great at horde clear and IV is great single target
But overall there's an okay variety
I think colomnus / dueling sword gunker with disrupt destiny, scriers gaze probably is meta by now.
The build was ridiclous before the patch
this patch has made it into an absolute monster.
Really? Gunker with gaze is a monster now?
Ye
I've always hated dueling sword 😒
i had a game earlier where i reached 29k damage per minute.
Ciag Gunker was already top tier - and they buffed it 🤷♂️
Columnus?
mk5 infantry autogun.
Too bad there isn't an actual dps mod where you can track what your sustained damage was during a single encounter.
I dont really have a scoreboard to be honest
I just got told i reached over a million damage in voicechat
and the game was 35 minutes.
so thats around 29k damage per minute.
which is insane damage output
I do think scriers gaze as a general abillty is really dumb.
Its way too spammable, incentives spamming.
The cooldown is extremely low espically if one actually stacks it with ex 12% cooldown reduction on curios, 10% from aura, also use psykinetics aura for 5% from elite or specialist kills.
19s, and then basically 1 second every elite kill.
It takes about 10s to naturally lose your peril
So it's functionally up pretty much any time you want it in combat.
The 1% damage bonus that grows to 30% also only does things after scriers gaze has ended.
11s with warp charges, which is honestly overkill
I just wish it wasn't a ability for psyker (hot take I know) I want more magic shit not a stim
🤣🤣
It could be a keystone
scrier's gaze isn't bad with staves
The only magical thing about scriers gaze is the screen effects, sound effects.
TBF, you can say that about everything
It ramps your peril gain insanely ?
You can quell insanely too. Think void or purg staff which don't have high peril gen
There's also the option for scirer's to give peril reduc
it's not BiS or anything, but it is viable
The shield is a literal magic barrier.
I just feel like if your just sitting there quelling your just wasting the buff
venting shriek meanwhile burns enemies with magic
is it? Or is it an energy shield with magical effects.
Directional microwave gun
Not to take anything away from your damage, but your teammates must've been doing proportionally low damage too. It's hard to get those numbers if everyone is playing well. 😛
likely true :p
I once played with another assial columbus gunker, and were within 1k damage of each other, 804k vs 805k. It was a funny game.
It made me realize gunker is probably pretty formulaic.
another thing actually about scriers gaze is that the screen effects, sound for it suck.
It for some reason applies both peril, scriers gaze screen effects and audio at the same time
Createing an extremely frusrating experience to both listen to and look at.
espically considering how often it is up.
welp, just ran a mission where DD wasn't using the upgrade nodes
orrrrr maybe it was just visual? I definitely got 300+ seconds of max stacks of DD that run
Hmm, I just got a bot to friend request me and it's a man not a fake woman, that's super bizzare

DD dissappears from the buff bar

It should still be working
You can tell because you'll still get the spd buff when you get a stack
yeah, I distinctly remember being faster, so definitely a visual bug with the HUD
so, I have to say, I rather like DD with assail now
I might fire up DD, but I like higher mobility melee weapons and CAN NOT remember that the speed boost will yeet me.
I'm good at throwing myself off ledges. 🥲
understandable, the speed boost is significant
Zoom
Zoom Zoom
Zoom
BYEEEeeeeeeee
Stupid question but i don't seem to remember lately: when dodging a chaos spawn, do i go left or right?
My right or its right?!
Alright thanks. I was just doing it randomly and it felt weird in the last few days.
Grab is a bullshit attack overall in the game
Right of the arm, so his left. My right
probably the most bullshit attack.
I think it's a great mechanic. It feels like a boss attack, not a random mob. I wish pogryn had the overhead of the crushers or smt
If you are spaced from it, it will do annoying combo attacks
If you hug it, it will be forced to do stationary single arm slam, followed by grab eventually
I think it works in a vaccum but falls apart everywhere else.
Which part?
cs grab.
yeah
Also it would be great if you didn't take fire damage from the GROUND when you are in the AIR
I think most of all the attack should have actual special audio.
It makes the same sound as literary every other CS attack.
Despite being an attack more like a special rather then an actual damage attack.
If you are ever facing away from the chaos spawn and it tries to grab you, its pratically impossible to dodge it.
because again theres no way to actually know its coming
When you're used to it it's possible to dodge, but if i play with friends i know they have 0% chance to dodge because it's just way too quick to react unless you're already prepared
and thats exactly why CS grab is most of all balanced in a vaccum and not ingame.
Because ingame aiming to look at CS spawn 100% of the time is completely unreasonable when you are dealing with multiple threats like specials coming from multiple directions.
We can discuss solutions and ideas but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter so let's live with it 
Oh its defintely one of my bigger gripes as someone who has had to solo CS spawns alone multiple times.
the only reason i dont think this has been talked more about is that it just isnt that common for the majority of the playerbase
I just pray my team is focused on the surroundings while i deal with the boss usually. And i kill every elite in sight for them when i don't have aggro.
That and the daemonhost, why does it remove all stamina...? That's just so annoying
thats quite literary the problem right there
Need team to deal with chaos spawn
public lobbies are funny to deal with sometimes, not everyone is on the same page
Theres very few ways for a solo player to consistently beat a chaos spawn even if they are skilled.
Because chaos spawns are inconsistent.
blast radius is dumpstat on voidstrike right? got one with everything 77+ except blast radius 60
I doubt that FS going make the change. I don't think they want to make bosses more soloable
Yes correct some people even want low blast
Scrier's gaze + DD was strong pre patched now it got buffed
Part of the Scrier's damage buff is active 90% of the time
DD never falls off when fighting monstrocities
or hordes
unless it's like, taking forever
but you should have the damage for it to not take forever
I personally fucking hate gunker with scriers and DD haha. And it is pissing me off to no end trying to get 40 kills in one gaze. Guess I should drop difficulty to do it
but yeah, DD right now, just amazing
used to lose all 30 of my stacks in 15s
now in 15s i lose a whopping 4 stacks (not even)
you want high diffiuclty for kills in one gaze
thats one headshot
8 attacks with any axe and you are done
40 enemies in one gaze, what if you prebake a horde with a purg then press gaze after 
you really don't have to try very hard
Hey same brain cell
the hard part was playing the rest of the round with a fukken purgatus cause i hate it
with 0 DD synergy
well no i swapped to EP that time
just to knock out some other penances
its an abomination of a build
prescience penance also only took half a round
yea but what a waste still
Perhaps, going EP will probably be more optimal
Nuhuh
i have all this psyker agility but ima plant in place
You can sprint slide while channeling so it isn't so bad
Zoom
speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
I think the most bullshit attack in the game is actually rinda, rodin when they do the “shield pushback”. Near instant animation that can stunlock the player, while kicking them into rodins mines.
Have that attack play at the wrong time, theres nothing you can do.
Mines will trigger before the player can get out of the way.
Can you destroy mines with gun?
Hard mode sounds like just don't get bad RNG
Theres certainly skill, but also alot of rng
When after the gas phases the game can decide to spawn 6 maulers or 6 crushers is a fairly big deal
this worth a pickup? never played blaze trauma before
Usable
Flurry to nexus
Weak spot to flak
But you should never use blaze trauma, worst staff 
Best melee weapon for psyker rn? is Illisi still p good?
just wanted something other than purgatus for melee only maelstroms because i hate using that thing
dueling mk4
imo
illisi, deimos and DS4 are all viable and have different usecases
Yes, Illisi still pretty good
rending trauma just outpaces blazing trauma
DS4 is the easiest of them all to use and the only one that gets rid of full hp mutant trains
mainly cause you can go soulblaze talents
felt miserable last time i tried to use that. maybe i had a wrong setup
||it's just a psyker channel meme||
it's all skill
idk whatever guy above you was talking about, that doesnt exist
more like ogryn + voc veteran check
mutie kebabs :)
Wait I kinda like the new chainsword wtf.
The XIIIg
Deimos also does this
And so can illisi with uncanny stacks
Does anyone know if being dcd or leaving from a mission affects the aurics in a row without dying penances?
Yes and no. If you DC I’m fairly certain you need to reconnect.
However. I found out earlier that if the entire team goes down but you don’t actually die, you don’t lose your streak.
Same thing with the X without going down. Dying instantly from something like a ledge, dog, or four simultaneous burster explosions will also keep your streak since you didn’t technically go down.
so is dirupt destiny borked? all my stacks seem to fall of at the same time still
yeah, worded that wrong. ds4 would be the one that requires the least amount of setup
U.I. Is bugged due to the cohesion buffs getting added.
ahh
oooh weird
No, deimos requires the least set up
It’s still working as intended. What you’re seeing is the speed buff you get from killing a mark falling off.
L1 H2 ez money.
yeah but you can't just spam heavy attacks
Yep, just DS4 requires more buffs to reach the OHBP
isnt it just 6 warp charges?
idk
And peril
unless im forgetting something i have in my build
ds4 is more simple to use outright but deimos can do big damage with less
pretty sure people would use this even if it was mutant only 
my favorite are the people who have mutant curios
That’s psychotic.
gotta be the least useful one on par with hound
Hound is definitely worse.
The occasional mutant from the warp can get you pretty easily. Dogs are like the one enemy who’s sound cues actually work consistently.
Y’all pick resistances?
i use gunner, toughness, and cooldown
gunner works for the gunners and reapers so it's pretty nice
gunner, snipers, grim res
CD, Toughness, and Block Efficiency are my current curios.
grim res on non-ogryn characters is always a must just to see friendly vets wither away and crumble in 1 hit
if I HAD to switch gunner it'd probably be block efficiency or toughness regeneration
block efficiency now works with peril block?
It always did. I think?
and the peril gain reduction? i thought one of them didnt
pretty sure that works too
well now it does
Stamina reduces peril gained per attack blocked
i remember them patching one of them to work in some hotfix
Block efficiency also works but is far less good
wait really? interesting
It's always worked
so which one is it for the curio?
I cant believe people still dont know this (no offense meant)
then why mention something is now working if it always did?
I just run it because it’s funny to have 84% efficiency.
because they didnt mention it?
I'm a brainlet who has 2 brain cells remaining and they're fighting for third place
they did? was around the class tree patch
show me
cba sorry
Anyway the TLDR is that stamina is FAR FAR FAR better to run than block efficiency perks
Also, fun fact: 84% block efficiency and a stam curio is enough to facetank a Plague Ogryn charge while reviving or doing any similar action. Found that out the fun way earlier.
as in extra stamina?
If you have kinetic deflection.
True
Doubling your stamina will halve the peril taken per attack.
+3 stam is more valuable than 3 x 12% block efficiency perks
The block cost reduction from deflector only applies to ranged attacks
Block efficiency is bad unless you're not running KD
After I watch this analysis of Junji Ito's works
Are you fuckin with me?
The Deflector boost only works against ranged attacks?
I swear to god that better be with specifically KD.
Piss
o7 thank you for the information kind sir
it's not like im 1400 hours into the game or anything
~.~
It's with or without KD
Tbh just get guard broken lol it's not like plagryns can true combo you
I am a brainlet fuck me
Truly fuckin with the pogryns 
You can make MUCH riskier attempts to pick up downed allies
Damn it's going crazy
From my experience it's always ranged enemies that fuck me over
God damnit
You can now dive into 5 ragers
Also maulers and crusher don't care about your stam
Ragers usually leave me alone lol somehow
No, they cant
I've DEFINITELY seen it in a video
Ive tested it with 11 stam, deflector and every block efficiency perks
Huh.
Either that or just go for the kill then rev, it's quite rare that you are in a situation where you have to unga bunga revive
Lemme see if I can find the video
For Honor Unblockable type shit
They can only be blocked with yellow toughness and catachan
Aren't they tagged as unblockable in the code
yep
and crushers/maulers have some minimum melee bleedthrough to your HP even if you have a shit ton of toughness DR last time I checked
Ogryn Shield can block em. I don’t remember if the basic guard can or if it needs to be fortified.
True, you can usually assume I'm talking about Psyker only
That’s fair
I found out that you could parry the crusher overheads on a whim and god damn I wish that my recording software was set to pick up voice. I was laughing like a cartoon supervillain.
I swear I'm not crazy and I did see a video of not getting 1shot ;;
Maybe they had a bunch of hp?
idk man
you definitely can survive that with enough HP on psyker
I'll test it
I think it does around 350 damage?
You gotta be built like a Leman Russ but it’s possible.
Damage numbers are all in the link 
Bold of you to assume I checked it.
Or that I’m going to check it.
(I’m going as we speak because this stuff fascinates me)
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Max health and block efficiency, still die
Huh.
Thanks for double checking
I'm still sure I saw it, but whatever. Will accept this as reality
Yellow toughness?
it was before
Ahh
You could shove a sniper rifle up my ass and fire and I wouldn’t take any damage with Yellow Toughness.
It’s crazy stuff
Basic block can ya but it's usually still best to just dodge it like everyone else unless u don't mind the block stagger
But you did block it?

What part of the convo did I miss
depends on who you're responding to
Oh he had invulnability on
Boo
that spooked me for a second
Right?
Like, it’s says in the description for the zealot relic that it grants your teammates invincibility, and it it’s not really lying. The only thing that I’ve seen potent enough to bust through it is Super Fire and standing in new fire for a solid few seconds.
As long as you have yellow, you are protected by the emperor
Oh wait you weren't max toughness
for the second hit
Yes he was
I must be fucking schizophrenic or something because I rewatched it and saw that he was at full toughness before the hit. And now he isn’t.
First hit has invul on
Nah just lazy editing on my behalf
Dickhead out here unintentionally gaslighting me.
LOL
I'm gaslighting myself with seeing that crusher hit like 9 months ago
I SWEAR I saw it BECAUSE I MADE A MENTAL NOTE
q.q
and my memory is so shit that I believe it because if it's something I remember it's something I've made a note about
Maybe you were kind of hating yourself and decided to play heresy.
oh....I uhm
I forgot that other difficulties existed..
..
okay that'd explain it
I think Tide games are pretty unique in the horde space in that enemies have health and damage scaling
Usually games just add more tougher enemies and more hard enemy units, right?
Killing Floor 2 does the same thing
lmao I'm here thinking wtf how'd that guy in the video survive
"oh yeah heresy exists"
._.
Helldivers definitely does…..
God damn I hate that game sometimes
DRG also has scaling enemy health
At least HD is consistent and I don't need to worry about lmao breakpoints
Yeah, now go kill 50 chargers and 20 titans.
Just cry
You bet your ass I did
That game isn't made like tide, you can't solo carry it
Do I tell him or does someone else wanna do it?
Running from every fight doesn't count 
You don’t even have to. It’s all about target priority and knowing how to be efficient with your strategems.
The 110s can take out a Titan in one volley, but it’s finicky as all hell to do.
Yea just aim better
Don't slander my waifu
HD2 the cope game
I WATCHED HER WHIFF A TANK IN 4K. WITH FOOTAGE AND A LIVE REACTION.
Just crying myself to sleep and saying nah this is fun
Having only 3 strategems? Peak
4 stratagem havers are crutching
Real men run
Stalwart, Orbital Gas, EMS, and Smoke strike. Coupled with the Diligence CS, Dagger, and smoke grenades. And don’t forget heavy armor with the fortified Perk.

wait
wasnt charge rate above resistance?
am i going crazy or were they swapped
It got flipped
Crafting update 
It's supposed to come later in the yearᵀᴹ
time to see if disrupt destiny is reasonable this patch
It's better imo
it is.
It was always way above reasonable
it went from 70% dark chocolate to 85%
does force sword not have a special anymore
it does
Did you verify your files and reset your keybinds?
The default for special is mouse button 5 lmao
That might be why it's not "working".
Did you rebind it to a key that's already bound?
anyone eles getting the empower psyonic bug where sometimes killing elites doesnt give you stack?
Any Psykers able to help with a returning player? First time back since they introduced new skill trees.
I got some specials and elites confused and thought EP was bugged, is it that?
no i was clearly getting killfeeds on elites but not getting ep charges
only happened since update
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
Alternatively, you can ask a more specific question 
@lethal lagoon Thanks this is a great start. I guess I need to think about a build and weapons etc.
Don't play blaze trauma until buffs. 
Still running the old Antax mk v combat axe and a Normanus mk VI surge force staff - probably dead items now.
here's what I called the "basic bitch surge build"
It's about as orthodox as it get's
Are you the editor of that compendium? It's really impressive.
Keep in mind surge is a way different weapon, it's more single target damage now
Nah
i would drop the six stack for smite jump
Surge is a single target 😮
I strongly disagree, smite jump is only if you are using smite super frequently.
the idea of this build is use surge for single target pick off, and use smite plus creeping flames to delete large groups
There's no time in a real game that smite jump is going to have a signficant difference
Creeping flames already kill all horde, bruisers, and shooter mobs.
When I play illisi surge smite I use smite once every 5 games.
You should horde clear with illisi and creeping flames.
Unless I'm running EP smite brain off mode, smite is super rare
in that case i would still drop 6 stacks for empathic evasion
6 stack aint that good imo
Creeping flame is a huge part of the build, so yeah
EE is not that good on surge your fire rate is not fast enough.
^
Unlike on purga.
Where you crit constantly making you in dodge mode very often.
Or assail with tru aim crits spam.
i argue you dont need empathic on purge beacuse of supression
No but when you run up to a big group of spread out shooters and gunners.
There's also shriek if you ever really get overwhelme.
If you can get your flame on a few of them, the rest would miss their shots.
i find it i spam shriek so much i dont always get value out of 6 stacks
If the shooters pack are together then just use melee.
The value is shrieking so much
Alrighty I'll have to do a lil research and reading to see what has changed it seems pretty substantial 😮
For some crazy ass spam.
You can just run the build I posted, as I said, it's super basic.
Spam surge and creeping flames(f)
it's brain off mode

I like turning brain off 😄
i have a build but its not very beginner friendly lol

why is it whenever i look in this chat there actual graphs, diagrams and number crunching
you all RP without meaning to
32 mins game surge spam. Nearly 300k damage from warpfire alone.
thats pretty normal for a warpfire build
Only 100k less than damage from the surge itself.
same with flame trauma
Oh yeah mods 😮
Well you get warpfire way less than blaze trauma.
Since you only create warpfire from creeping flames and combustion.
also depends on luck and elite density per game
Blaze trauma meme it's nearly 50-50. 
sometimes people just apply warpfire first and dont count towards your damage
But this is bad pls never use it.
There's only 1 warpfire source in this game
There you go

Believe it or not, OnlySmites carried that game
I have proof
Stop spreading unsanctionedpsyker propaganda. Put him on the black ship.
put him back on the blackship
12s cd on creeping flames at 6 warp charges. Kinda gud
Then you kill maybe a few more elites and it's back in real time about 7 or 8s.
2 of the best talents
I tried running aura with scrier's and having to have BB wasn't worth
Imagine picking 7.5% elite damage 

It's like that 6s cd reduction talent on vet. I always take it.
Then shouts spam and press f through the map.
but vet cd is in the middle
you cant take cdr if you pick assail
Bro I love seeing that image, flaming shriek is so good
Simply don't play assail. 

bruh
Stfu with the nerd shit and pretend the game just came out
what do u think of my build guiys
Could it be.. assail bad??
No ascendant blaze that's rip.
if psykenetic was available for assail i would be so happy
Budget creeping flames.
Ascendant blaze only doing 4 stacks was such bait
ngl i don't even rember what that last talent I have selected did
Too much thinking
You can ascendant blaze, equip illisi, then get 75% power from old slaughterer.

I remeber quicken because it was for a penance
It made sense when Assial was stupid OP
But now it's just annoying
To not have aura
Old pinning fire 
Remember SAP? I don't 
god old zap
Smite is literally the name for the Surge Staff attack, that's why there were so many bugs.
wtf was I doing
exactly lol. The psyker tree is just like blue ball city
I was on some new shit
gosh guys why do they nerf psyker every patch
smh
Did you just reply to yourself?
must have nothing to do with psykers topping scoreboards all the time
ye cause its the only one worth talking to
nah but for real, venting shriek with 100% peril removal
that was crazy
we didn't know how good we had it.
Psyker weak 😠 buff
i wouldnt want 100 removal for a lot of builds
100 removal for EP smite plz and thank you 
Remember when DD decayed all at once 
a horrible timem
for us all
i m gonna head out cuz i never played this game before the talent tree update
I feel old thinking about those times
GOOD
GAME WAS TRASH

So many alt psykers lots to the wastes before they added 8 slots
Now you can just change voices and heights willy nilly

Is this current patch

Yes
Wow actually clears ragers 
Last patch EP smite full combo did bout 80% rager health
Now before the combo is over ragers are deadge

Shield smite op

Yea it's the teams fault they didn't create enough space for the support to support
"It's not me. It's the others who can't deal damage."
Protect the support okay 🗣️ 🗣️
I play mostly support/tank builds. Like the smite Psyker+shield to stagger the enemies and the tank ogryn to pull aggro and hold them on me. So my damage output ist not my priority. I also like to play the Zealot to on support with chorus ability. But damn out of 3 people are to stupid to play their class in a efficent manner. Im so tired of thi...

Oh joy I installed new mods and now game no load 😐
Aka floorhugger
Sometimes, when I want to feel something, I go on reddit or the steam community page
idk actually, but it's the same energy as "bro you need more wound curios"

I was told that. multiple times.

I had to try hard not to laugh at them and explain that wound curios only work if you get shit on
When the guy last place on the scoreboard backseats, definitely doesn't happen to me.
I definitely didn't get backseated by a smite bubbler
Lol you should have been there when I was soloing with 3 dead teammates vs boss and horde
The smite bubbler definitely wasn't dead
Some guy was like "you shouldn't use thammer and shotgun, low dps"
While tied up in the next room
wh-
That'd be cool if the thammer was a weapon that focused on dps and not massive burst damage wtf
i have a question about distrupt destiny stacks. Do you only gain them if you kill the enemy with a warp attack?...
Read 
"shhh, the dead don't speak"
my favorite line when people start talking shit after they die
Ok kitten
i remeber when all the force swords were glitched and had deflector as base
you're not drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on
i got crushered the instant an airlock door opened yesterday, the ogryn had bullrush and used it like 3 times. i wanted to say something but didn't bother since we were still winning
I steal yo seat
Ok then either im an idiot or if a veteran has the keystone to ping enemys it wont let me get disrupt destiny points. This is the short clip i managed to get off it. It happens alot
i dunno WHY the video is like 180p
🥔
but
what are trinkets?
cosmetics
trinkets are the things that hang off your weapon
side note, the little bell trinkets should tinkle
Ohhhhhhhhh unter appearance gg :/
my favorite trinkets are the ones on the back of guns so you can't even see them
i like using the eternis hourglass on the grenade launchers, it's like a pet grenade
Yeee. I was sent a wax writing tablet for my birthday!!
Oh wait. Fecking darktide chat
congrats, sibling
Actually speaking of airlock doors
okay that's cool
Thanks 
The doors actually killed a daemonhost for us one mission
I've done that!
It's incredible
Can zealots still push monstrosities into the void?
Yes but it's harder
i got invited to striketeam by a rando 29 a couple weeks ago, he queued us up for a malice mission, i showed them all you can kill bosses with doors and 2 of them were like "wtf" and "the more you know"
Don't you need everyone inside first tho
any door that closes will kill bosses
Oh
easiest with ones you can toggle
door is the strongest weapon against heresy
and because of you guys I'm gonna be running a Toughness/Health/Stamina set of curios ;;
I hate it
Since I brought it up. This is the type of thing I mean when I said "wax writing tablet".
now learn cuniform
now summon the old gods
gro-goroth hear my prayer
praise janus, god of doors
if anyone knows where that's from I'll love you forever
you guys are right. you don't dserve my love
FS making sure I get qued with 3 other psykers with the same build as I load in
isn't gro-goroth that little green guy from that new disney star trek show? 
Breh who has time to remember names when my eyes are busy









