#psyker-class

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lapis violet
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oh that's tiny now

rich spindle
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They made hab dreyko harder? 😔

lapis violet
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i think it's easier this way maybe?

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depends on specialist spawns

nova bridge
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Surge and smite does kind of feel weird. However I am only 20. It seem Psyker really wants to be 30

plucky flax
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Smaller area and elites/specials spawn more often on that elevated area.

cinder moon
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if you don't have vent, smite can be a pain

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also EP really turns up smite

lapis violet
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EP? i like smite with charges

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whatever it's called

cinder moon
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EP smite with vent is great because vent doesn't remove EP stacks

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and easy to gain 3 EP stacks if you manage to lose them

marble crater
lapis violet
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and new tox bombers making spicy vape clouds

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might not be easier

radiant frigate
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EP smite feels pretty solid actually

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like i am not just wasting my time

plucky flax
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But if you're running ep smite you're not running warp charges surge.

radiant frigate
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bubble and smite 💀

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yet here i am

mighty cipher
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Does Enhanced smite usually do a shitton of damage over the course of a mission?

radiant frigate
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kind of

mighty cipher
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like, 700k on my first try type damage?

fluid aspen
mighty cipher
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Thats hot

fluid aspen
lapis violet
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rampage>uncanny, crit dmg>flak? cara?

fluid aspen
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Yeah something like that, definitely swapping Rampage to Uncanny, not sure about the crit dmg yet

severe laurel
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Is Disrupt Destiny any good now?

lapis violet
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always good

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but please, pick up the talent that makes stacks last longer

leaden mulch
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EP smite now melting the hoard

rich spindle
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How fast

near drift
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We do a little EP smite+venting shriek, as a treat

half iron
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ep smite is the ever

fluid aspen
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Did they change anything about the stack condition of Disrupt Destiny? Do you still get f'd by low priority marks and teammates killing your marks?

vestal haven
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New Psyker/player. I just reached level 11, but I don't know what are the best weapons to use, and how to get the best weapons? Should I focus on upgrades? Also how to decrease the chaos build up?

radiant frigate
vast oasis
vestal haven
fluid aspen
vestal haven
fluid aspen
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I've been having good fun running a Warpfire build with a Dueling Mk4 and a Purgatus staff, just setting everything ablaze elmofire

strong gulch
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While leveling, you don't have access to the higher tier rolls and versions of things. So don't focus too much on gear. If you find somthing that you like and want to upgrade a couple of times before level 11, go for it.

Some weapons are piles of poo unless that have great rolls.

Peril, aka the chaos, can be actively lowered by quelling (reload button) while weilding weapons or blitzes that use the peril mechanic; there is also the venting shriek ability that will quickly quell 50% of your peril. There is also passive quelling when you weild non-warp weapons.

fluid aspen
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Honestly, I think Psyker has by far the most build variety, and the builds are very distinct. So look around and see what you enjoy

vast oasis
strong gulch
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Psyker comes together after 30. Play around with things, but know that some lower versions don't represent and "properly" built version due to scaling.

vast oasis
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then try to find a good base weapon for that staff type to upgrade

plucky flax
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Playing trauma pre 30. whatthefuck_heresy

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You'll get trauma for real.

strong gulch
vestal haven
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I am sorry, but a noob question which staff gives the blue flame effect?

fluid aspen
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But there are some nodes in the skilltree that can also get you Warpfire like "Perilus Combustion" that sets enemies around a killed elite or specialist on fire

vestal haven
frail harness
fluid aspen
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Trauma - Ground explosion
Voidstrike - Bowling ball projectile
Purgatus - Flamethrower with flame puff left click
Surge - Emperor Palp

vestal haven
fluid aspen
vestal haven
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Should I worry about weapons while leveling to 30?

cinder moon
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nah

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save your resources and dockets

vestal haven
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Or should I first just reach level 30 then start adjusting my build

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Ok. Thank you.

fluid aspen
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Not about the rolls, but trying out new types you see in the armory

modest perch
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Yea

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Just sacrifice stuff for blessings on the way up

frail harness
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Buy whatever interests you up to 30. Don't worry about min maxing until 30

modest perch
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Especially cus some that only exist as level 2 or 3 can be a huge pain to get at 30

rigid sky
cinder moon
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i made a bubble/brain burst/warp charge build to use with voidstrike just to get the bubble penance, now i actually kind of like it staregryn

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also learned you can crit barrels and detonate them with a single shot if you have surge

fluid aspen
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I made a Purgatus Warpfire build for the "In Fire Reborn" node for the Warp Battery penance, my favorite build so far

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I just wish I could deal with stuff further than 10 meters kekcry

cinder moon
modest perch
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Just run a bubble with it lol that’s what I do

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(Don’t listen to me I’m bad)

fluid aspen
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I am desperately trying to find an extra point so I can get some more peril reduction from Battle Meditation so I can keep Scrier up longer

cinder moon
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i just need malleus now and i'll be done with psyker penances

rigid sky
fluid aspen
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Yeah I have brain rupture, but it's a massive PITA if there's like 3-4 normal ranged plebs in the back of the room

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Because BR is so slow

rigid sky
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See that they have revolvers and plasmas

fluid aspen
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Yeah that's the ideal situation

rigid sky
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Shooters don't die

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Another win for nurgle

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Job done

cinder moon
fluid aspen
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Though with the changes to Disrupt Destiny I'll give it another shot, maybe I'll swap from warp charges to that instead

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Warp Charges are spent when I pop Scrier anyway

vestal haven
rigid sky
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Burn it

cinder moon
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nothing

rigid sky
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It's shit

modest perch
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any stuff with blessings you don’t

frail harness
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Bricked unfortunately

rigid sky
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Bad blessings and perks I'm afraid

cinder moon
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sell that staff because it's bad

modest perch
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Oh that’s a surge

frail harness
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Crit chance is okay

cinder moon
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nexus/flurry are ideal for surge

modest perch
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Yea uhhh toss it

cinder moon
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blazing spirit and run n gun are useless

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(on surge)

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i don't think it has a weak spot interaction either

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unless you're LMBing, but that's a waste of a perk anyway

frail harness
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Man I wish Surge got Transfer Peril

rigid sky
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Apart from LMB

frail harness
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LMB spam would be so much better

rigid sky
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Surge probably has the best LMB spam at base out of the 3 bolt staves

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I guess

cinder moon
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love killing snipers with staff lmb before the vet can deal with it

fluid aspen
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Does Surge have a unique lmb too?

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Or is it the same as trauma/voidstrike

cinder moon
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same bolt as void/trauma

fluid aspen
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I have never used that staff kekw

jovial juniper
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Surge has Blazing?

plucky flax
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I'd try surge staff with blazing spirits.

plucky flax
rigid sky
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Mostly the same bolt

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But Surge staff has crit bonus

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If that affects LMB anyway

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But if it does, then it'll probably be a bit better on Surge than the others

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Also petition that we all refer to the staff with its full name

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Because nomanus implies that the staff helps you to eat ass.

fluid aspen
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DD consistently marking the farthest pleb hiding behind 3 walls running away KEKsad

static needle
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Tac axe + revolver gaming (I-IX-E-F, auric maelstrom)

frail harness
jovial juniper
rigid sky
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Atm the main difference is that my trauma sometimes randomly sets things on fire

fluid aspen
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Disrupt Destiny stacks don't go past 5 on the HUD FeelsWeirdMan

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And yeah 1 enemy hiding across the room being marked and denying your stacks is just dumb. I'd rather have the stupid RNG of In Fire Reborn than this

jovial juniper
fluid aspen
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Weakspot Kills giving 2 stacks is nice with Assail but that's about it

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I bet this is weakspot kills on marked giving +2 for a total of 3, not just any weakspot kills Sadge

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Either the range needs to be smaller so enemies can't just hide and deny your stacks, or mark like 3 enemies at a time and killing one resets the mark on all or something

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Right now it's still a pain to use and not worth the bonuses it gives

rigid sky
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It was worth it pre-patch

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I imagine it still is now

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The damage boost is kinda big

fluid aspen
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15% damage? 6 stacks of Warp Siphon gives you 24%

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I guess WS is "base damage" whatever that means

rigid sky
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Also crit and weakspot damage

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For voidstrike, Assail and many guns and melees, that's significant

fluid aspen
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It definitely isn't worth it for my Crit Purg build that I wanted to use it on simply because it's such a pain to keep the stacks with the way it marks enemies

rigid sky
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Oh yeah, it's dogshit on purgatus lmao

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Do not take it with that

fluid aspen
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And Assail getting free casts with extra damage from Empowered Psionics still seems better to me than Disrupt Destiny

rigid sky
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It needs to be more than just assail getting boosted

fluid aspen
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And BB is unusable without Empowred Psionics

rigid sky
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Assail alone isn't enough to make DD worth it

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Assail, Voidstrike and Illisi, or Assail, CIAG and DS4, go with it way better

rigid sky
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EP makes it way better but I run brain rupture on my warp Siphon Purgatus build too

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It's more secondary for that though, emergency anti-ranged

fluid aspen
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Yea exactly

rigid sky
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With EP it can be on the level of any full on weapon

fluid aspen
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Warp Siphon is for the extra damage and toughness/peril resist per stack

rigid sky
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For purgatus, don't take inner tranq btw

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It fucks up your Venting shrieks

fluid aspen
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Scrier's Gaze EZ

rigid sky
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Idk, I guess Gaze works better on purgatus than the other staves

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For me it is just The Gunker Ability

fluid aspen
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Which is why I'm glad I could make it work with a staff

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And Empathic Evasion is a massive help when I'm range limited

rigid sky
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Fucking love EE whenever I can get away with taking it

fluid aspen
rigid sky
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Purgatus is its best usecase too

fluid aspen
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Wish I could get Deflector on the Dueling Mk4 for that sweet ranged block

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Or Blazing Spirit hmm

zinc phoenix
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They need to add another teat to the tree

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I am well bored with the current ones

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They have been sucked dry

plucky flax
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New class.

fluid aspen
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I'd rather them make other classes' trees more interesting first

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Feels like everyone has 1-2 good builds, then Psyker has like 5+ kekw

plucky flax
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Zealot has loads of variety. Lots of good melee weapons and all 3 keystones are gud.

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Momentum nerf tho

fluid aspen
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Seems like I've pissed off someone kekw

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Yeah I need to level my Zealot... Want to try that monstrosity 1-shot hammer build I've seen a few times

zinc phoenix
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But vet not needing keystones gives you a ton of freedom

fluid aspen
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It's more about how the other 3 classes feel a bit more typecast where as Psyker can focus on melee, range, tank and anything in-between

lethal lagoon
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Psykers do have 4 very different staves, and gun builds

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But you don't even have a zealot, so that's a strong opinion.

fluid aspen
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The swords too, with stuff like Deflector to block ranged attacks with. Pair that with Kinetic Deflection and a +3 stam trinket and you're facetanking monstrosities like an Ogryn with a shield; without having to run a low-damage melee

cinder moon
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psyker and ogryn have the best fashion

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not in that order, though

fluid aspen
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Psyker definitely has the best free fashion

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Don't know much about the Ogryn ones but most of the cool looking stuff on Zealot and Veteran are paid mtx bull

cinder moon
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the new penances really upped the free fashion game

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just a little annoyed the shades of black aren't consistent

fluid aspen
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Most of the psyker paid cosmetics just look like absolute freaks

cinder moon
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i actually really like the new green pants for the cape

fluid aspen
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Which I guess makes sense, but not that kind of freaks

cinder moon
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your first outfit look very tanky

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brotherhood of ethereal

fluid aspen
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I love the last tier of upper body bits, lots of cool looking armor while still keeping elements of Psyker visuals

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Which reminds me I still need to do Malleus Monstronum kekcry

cinder moon
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same

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changing it to 50% doesn't really do anything by itself

fluid aspen
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Yeah

cinder moon
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plenty of real pub matches where i do >50% of boss damage with brain burst

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literally my first ogryn match after the update i got the bullrush penance

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zealot's is the only one that really deserves to be private

mental grail
cinder moon
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forget which penance, but it's one of the new ones

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this one

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night bobcat
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They changed "Warp Battery" from having to keep the max warp charges for 300 seconds to 120 seconds and I was upset about that because I finally completed that penance about a week ago. At least it's easier now for new players or those who have yet to complete it

earnest pasture
mental grail
zinc phoenix
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Ree

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Now the plebes will share my cool outfit

marble crater
cinder moon
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it's just X seconds at max WC, doesn't have to be consecutive

marble crater
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Old one had to be consecutive, did they change that part too, on top of fewer seconds?

cinder moon
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i don't remember it being consecutive and i did it in the before times ™️

night bobcat
cinder moon
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in fire reborn is one way to do it

marble crater
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It's consecutive, otherwise people wouldn't have such a hard time completing them

night bobcat
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It also helps to try getting it on a map that keeps spawning enemies on your way to extract

cinder moon
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it used to be harder to get WC at all because there was no way to make BB faster without dumping your stacks, and teammates stealing your BB kills didn't attribute WC, until it did

marble crater
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I used surge with shock troop gauntlet, basically sniped them to maintain warp charges

cinder moon
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but i had to double check and yeah, it used to be consecutive and psychic communion was the way to make it less annoying

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anyway, all you need to do now is have max WC for 120 seconds cumulatively

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which is super easy

zinc phoenix
marble crater
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But it's still consecutive now right? Or do you just need 120 seconds total in one mission?

cinder moon
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it's cumulative, not consecutive

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in a single mission though, yes

marble crater
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Easy af now

cinder moon
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yeah, even 300s wasn't that bad once it was cumulative and WC decayed by 1 instead of the whole stack

marble crater
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It was one of the harder once, but still doable in a regular game yeah

ornate hamlet
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I worked so hard to get it the other month. Hard af

ornate hamlet
cinder moon
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yeah, you had to constantly spam BB in order to keep up the WC

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and teammates stealing kills could ruin your progress

zinc phoenix
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Very annoying

cinder moon
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at some point they made it so being over 50 or 75% progress on the BB would still award the WC if a teammate landed the killing blow, which was nice

mighty olive
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Must...grind...penances..must get psy veil! Sad the veil is 3200, grumble!

marble crater
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Must grind for poses

half iron
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must grind for poses

torpid girder
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iirc the max was 4, you gained a guaranteed warp charge for brainbursting any enemy including fodder, and i think you didn't consume warp charges when shrieking

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it did all disappear at once tho so u needed to make sure to brainburst a random enemy every now and then but

sullen bobcat
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Yeah but eventually you got talents to generate them so you just ignored warp charges if weren't' not dumb

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Of course it didn't stop people from thinking you needed max stacks to play psyker optimally

ornate hamlet
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Max stacks had some funny breakpoints

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It ironically made psyker hit breakpoints that vet had to rely on exec stance for

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And carried that damage to melee

marble crater
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Sour Milk...

marble crater
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I found my solution to playing Gunker, use assail and melee all the time, treat my gun like a nuke for big things
Unless that is how you are supposed to play it anyway whaaa

magic current
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does venting shriek count as psykinetics wrath for penances?

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want to make sure fatshark isn't oversighting things again.

marble crater
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It should, the only penance I had to do "naked" was the ogryn box in the eye one

magic current
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making sure before i spam nearly dying on sedition.

marble crater
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I don't remember using the base version of shriek for anything

magic current
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it works

marble crater
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Get a surge staff with 10 warp resistance and you can just play normally KEKW_ogryn

magic current
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i had one with 6 before

wet belfry
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this patch made blitz abillties even less relevant.

marble crater
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How so?

wet belfry
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scriers gaze eats up all the peril anyways

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plus gunker doesnt really need assail or brainburst.

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smite is smite...

marble crater
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Do you mean just less relevant for gunker?

wet belfry
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Its the same outside of gunker

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Pretty irrelvant but might get used a few times in a mission.

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gunker meanwhile has been no blitz abillties for entire game.

marble crater
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I used my blitz the majority of the mission earlier

urban dove
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Is psyker at the point where there is actually multiple good builds or is there just 1 meta load out?
And what are they/it

frail harness
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All 4 staffs are viable, multiple kinds of gun psykers work

urban dove
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Gimme like a 1 sentence of each?

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Or is it just do what you want at this point

frail harness
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Check the pins for Psyker guide. Multiple example builds

urban dove
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Heard

frail harness
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But overall there's an okay variety

wet belfry
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The build was ridiclous before the patch

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this patch has made it into an absolute monster.

urban dove
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Really? Gunker with gaze is a monster now?

wet belfry
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Ye

urban dove
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I've always hated dueling sword 😒

wet belfry
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i had a game earlier where i reached 29k damage per minute.

frail harness
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Ciag Gunker was already top tier - and they buffed it 🤷‍♂️

wet belfry
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mk5 infantry autogun.

orchid shadow
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Too bad there isn't an actual dps mod where you can track what your sustained damage was during a single encounter.

wet belfry
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I dont really have a scoreboard to be honest

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I just got told i reached over a million damage in voicechat

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and the game was 35 minutes.

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so thats around 29k damage per minute.

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which is insane damage output

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I do think scriers gaze as a general abillty is really dumb.

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Its way too spammable, incentives spamming.

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The cooldown is extremely low espically if one actually stacks it with ex 12% cooldown reduction on curios, 10% from aura, also use psykinetics aura for 5% from elite or specialist kills.

lethal lagoon
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19s, and then basically 1 second every elite kill.

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It takes about 10s to naturally lose your peril

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So it's functionally up pretty much any time you want it in combat.

wet belfry
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The 1% damage bonus that grows to 30% also only does things after scriers gaze has ended.

lethal lagoon
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11s with warp charges, which is honestly overkill

urban dove
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I just wish it wasn't a ability for psyker (hot take I know) I want more magic shit not a stim

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🤣🤣

wet belfry
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It could be a keystone

lethal lagoon
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scrier's gaze isn't bad with staves

wet belfry
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The only magical thing about scriers gaze is the screen effects, sound effects.

lethal lagoon
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TBF, you can say that about everything

urban dove
lethal lagoon
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You can quell insanely too. Think void or purg staff which don't have high peril gen

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There's also the option for scirer's to give peril reduc

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it's not BiS or anything, but it is viable

wet belfry
urban dove
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I just feel like if your just sitting there quelling your just wasting the buff

wet belfry
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venting shriek meanwhile burns enemies with magic

lethal lagoon
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Directional microwave gun

urban dove
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I still just want soul fireballs

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Give us a 4th blitz

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Soul blaze fireball

orchid shadow
wet belfry
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likely true :p

lethal lagoon
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I once played with another assial columbus gunker, and were within 1k damage of each other, 804k vs 805k. It was a funny game.

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It made me realize gunker is probably pretty formulaic.

wet belfry
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another thing actually about scriers gaze is that the screen effects, sound for it suck.

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It for some reason applies both peril, scriers gaze screen effects and audio at the same time

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Createing an extremely frusrating experience to both listen to and look at.

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espically considering how often it is up.

lethal lagoon
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I turn off the normal psyker screen puke

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So it's just scirer's visuals for me

long wharf
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welp, just ran a mission where DD wasn't using the upgrade nodes

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orrrrr maybe it was just visual? I definitely got 300+ seconds of max stacks of DD that run

lethal lagoon
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Hmm, I just got a bot to friend request me and it's a man not a fake woman, that's super bizzare

lethal lagoon
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It should still be working

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You can tell because you'll still get the spd buff when you get a stack

long wharf
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yeah, I distinctly remember being faster, so definitely a visual bug with the HUD

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so, I have to say, I rather like DD with assail now

strong gulch
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I might fire up DD, but I like higher mobility melee weapons and CAN NOT remember that the speed boost will yeet me.

I'm good at throwing myself off ledges. 🥲

long wharf
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understandable, the speed boost is significant

potent echo
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Zoom

lethal lagoon
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Zoom Zoom

strong gulch
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Zoom

BYEEEeeeeeeee

hexed geyser
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Stupid question but i don't seem to remember lately: when dodging a chaos spawn, do i go left or right?

wet belfry
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right of the arm.

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backwards can work too but is riskier.

ornate hamlet
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My right or its right?!

hexed geyser
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Alright thanks. I was just doing it randomly and it felt weird in the last few days.

wet belfry
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Grab is a bullshit attack overall in the game

hexed geyser
wet belfry
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probably the most bullshit attack.

potent echo
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You basically want to hug it, and then circle to YOUR right

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That's how you kill it

hexed geyser
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I think it's a great mechanic. It feels like a boss attack, not a random mob. I wish pogryn had the overhead of the crushers or smt

potent echo
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If you are spaced from it, it will do annoying combo attacks

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If you hug it, it will be forced to do stationary single arm slam, followed by grab eventually

wet belfry
hexed geyser
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Which part?

wet belfry
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cs grab.

hexed geyser
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yeah

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Also it would be great if you didn't take fire damage from the GROUND when you are in the AIR

wet belfry
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I think most of all the attack should have actual special audio.

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It makes the same sound as literary every other CS attack.

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Despite being an attack more like a special rather then an actual damage attack.

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If you are ever facing away from the chaos spawn and it tries to grab you, its pratically impossible to dodge it.

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because again theres no way to actually know its coming

hexed geyser
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When you're used to it it's possible to dodge, but if i play with friends i know they have 0% chance to dodge because it's just way too quick to react unless you're already prepared

wet belfry
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and thats exactly why CS grab is most of all balanced in a vaccum and not ingame.

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Because ingame aiming to look at CS spawn 100% of the time is completely unreasonable when you are dealing with multiple threats like specials coming from multiple directions.

hexed geyser
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We can discuss solutions and ideas but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter so let's live with it KEKW_ogryn

wet belfry
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Oh its defintely one of my bigger gripes as someone who has had to solo CS spawns alone multiple times.

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the only reason i dont think this has been talked more about is that it just isnt that common for the majority of the playerbase

hexed geyser
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That and the daemonhost, why does it remove all stamina...? That's just so annoying

wet belfry
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Need team to deal with chaos spawn

hexed geyser
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public lobbies are funny to deal with sometimes, not everyone is on the same page

wet belfry
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Theres very few ways for a solo player to consistently beat a chaos spawn even if they are skilled.

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Because chaos spawns are inconsistent.

tiny oracle
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blast radius is dumpstat on voidstrike right? got one with everything 77+ except blast radius 60

untold niche
untold niche
willow hazel
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Scrier's gaze + DD was strong pre patched now it got buffed

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Part of the Scrier's damage buff is active 90% of the time

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DD never falls off when fighting monstrocities

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or hordes

thorn cedar
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unless it's like, taking forever

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but you should have the damage for it to not take forever

analog agate
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I personally fucking hate gunker with scriers and DD haha. And it is pissing me off to no end trying to get 40 kills in one gaze. Guess I should drop difficulty to do it

thorn cedar
#

but yeah, DD right now, just amazing

#

used to lose all 30 of my stacks in 15s

#

now in 15s i lose a whopping 4 stacks (not even)

willow hazel
#

you want high diffiuclty for kills in one gaze

thorn cedar
#

thats one headshot

willow hazel
#

8 attacks with any axe and you are done

thorn cedar
#

also just use purgatus

#

flame a horde, hit f

#

super easy, just did it

potent echo
#

40 enemies in one gaze, what if you prebake a horde with a purg then press gaze after KEKW_ogryn

willow hazel
#

you really don't have to try very hard

potent echo
#

Hey same brain cell

thorn cedar
#

the hard part was playing the rest of the round with a fukken purgatus cause i hate it

willow hazel
#

with 0 DD synergy

thorn cedar
#

well no i swapped to EP that time

#

just to knock out some other penances

#

its an abomination of a build

#

prescience penance also only took half a round

potent echo
#

DD does give flat damage so it's something

#

Not nothing like marksman focus KEKW_ogryn

thorn cedar
#

yea but what a waste still

potent echo
#

Perhaps, going EP will probably be more optimal

thorn cedar
#

not using a purgatus is step one

#

god i hate it

potent echo
#

Nuhuh

thorn cedar
#

i have all this psyker agility but ima plant in place

potent echo
#

You can sprint slide while channeling so it isn't so bad

thorn cedar
#

it aint gunker good tho

#

just in terms of the

#

the zoom

#

the energy

potent echo
#

Zoom

thorn cedar
#

speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

wet belfry
#

I think the most bullshit attack in the game is actually rinda, rodin when they do the “shield pushback”. Near instant animation that can stunlock the player, while kicking them into rodins mines.

#

Have that attack play at the wrong time, theres nothing you can do.

#

Mines will trigger before the player can get out of the way.

potent echo
#

Can you destroy mines with gun?

wet belfry
#

No you need to walk over them

#

They start a timer till they explode

potent echo
#

Hard mode sounds like just don't get bad RNG

wet belfry
#

Theres certainly skill, but also alot of rng

#

When after the gas phases the game can decide to spawn 6 maulers or 6 crushers is a fairly big deal

potent echo
#

Trauma uwu

#

Does trauma still stagger bulwarks

terse saffron
#

this worth a pickup? never played blaze trauma before

potent echo
#

Usable

#

Flurry to nexus

#

Weak spot to flak

#

But you should never use blaze trauma, worst staff uwugryn

heady swan
#

Best melee weapon for psyker rn? is Illisi still p good?

terse saffron
upper galleon
#

imo

terse saffron
#

illisi, deimos and DS4 are all viable and have different usecases

jovial juniper
#

Yes, Illisi still pretty good

upper galleon
#

rending trauma just outpaces blazing trauma

terse saffron
#

DS4 is the easiest of them all to use and the only one that gets rid of full hp mutant trains

upper galleon
#

mainly cause you can go soulblaze talents

terse saffron
potent echo
hushed egret
#

idk whatever guy above you was talking about, that doesnt exist

terse saffron
heady swan
#

Wait I kinda like the new chainsword wtf.

jovial juniper
#

The XIIIg

heady swan
#

Ya.

#

I like the moveset.

wind spruce
#

And so can illisi with uncanny stacks

torpid girder
#

Does anyone know if being dcd or leaving from a mission affects the aurics in a row without dying penances?

mighty cipher
#

Yes and no. If you DC I’m fairly certain you need to reconnect.

#

However. I found out earlier that if the entire team goes down but you don’t actually die, you don’t lose your streak.

#

Same thing with the X without going down. Dying instantly from something like a ledge, dog, or four simultaneous burster explosions will also keep your streak since you didn’t technically go down.

cyan pawn
#

so is dirupt destiny borked? all my stacks seem to fall of at the same time still

terse saffron
mighty cipher
cyan pawn
#

ahh

wind spruce
mighty cipher
#

It’s still working as intended. What you’re seeing is the speed buff you get from killing a mark falling off.

mighty cipher
supple dock
wind spruce
#

Yep, just DS4 requires more buffs to reach the OHBP

supple dock
#

yee

#

So I'd say they're about equal?

terse saffron
#

isnt it just 6 warp charges?

supple dock
#

idk

wind spruce
terse saffron
#

unless im forgetting something i have in my build

wind spruce
#

Deimos only requires the mutants perk

#

Maniacs*

supple dock
#

ds4 is more simple to use outright but deimos can do big damage with less

terse saffron
supple dock
#

my favorite are the people who have mutant curios

mighty cipher
#

That’s psychotic.

supple dock
#

i've seen it

#

TWICE

terse saffron
#

gotta be the least useful one on par with hound

mighty cipher
#

Hound is definitely worse.

supple dock
#

gunner/sniper/bomber are the most useful imo

#

psyker?

#

Sniper

mighty cipher
#

The occasional mutant from the warp can get you pretty easily. Dogs are like the one enemy who’s sound cues actually work consistently.

supple dock
#

is there a poxburster one?

#

Cause that would be useful too

terse saffron
#

no

#

would be very kind of FS to pair them with bomber resistance

supple dock
#

then yeah gunner/sniper are my top picks for curio

#

in terms of the resistances

mighty cipher
#

Y’all pick resistances?

supple dock
#

i use gunner, toughness, and cooldown

#

gunner works for the gunners and reapers so it's pretty nice

terse saffron
#

gunner, snipers, grim res

mighty cipher
#

CD, Toughness, and Block Efficiency are my current curios.

terse saffron
#

grim res on non-ogryn characters is always a must just to see friendly vets wither away and crumble in 1 hit

supple dock
#

if I HAD to switch gunner it'd probably be block efficiency or toughness regeneration

terse saffron
#

block efficiency now works with peril block?

mighty cipher
#

It always did. I think?

supple dock
terse saffron
#

and the peril gain reduction? i thought one of them didnt

supple dock
#

pretty sure that works too

terse saffron
#

well now it does

wind spruce
#

Stamina reduces peril gained per attack blocked

terse saffron
#

i remember them patching one of them to work in some hotfix

wind spruce
#

Block efficiency also works but is far less good

supple dock
wind spruce
#

It's always worked

supple dock
#

so which one is it for the curio?

wind spruce
terse saffron
#

then why mention something is now working if it always did?

mighty cipher
#

I just run it because it’s funny to have 84% efficiency.

wind spruce
supple dock
terse saffron
#

they did? was around the class tree patch

wind spruce
#

show me

terse saffron
#

cba sorry

wind spruce
#

Anyway the TLDR is that stamina is FAR FAR FAR better to run than block efficiency perks

mighty cipher
#

Also, fun fact: 84% block efficiency and a stam curio is enough to facetank a Plague Ogryn charge while reviving or doing any similar action. Found that out the fun way earlier.

mighty cipher
wind spruce
supple dock
#

OH SHIT

#

Okay, time to roll a new curio

wind spruce
#

Doubling your stamina will halve the peril taken per attack.

+3 stam is more valuable than 3 x 12% block efficiency perks

The block cost reduction from deflector only applies to ranged attacks

Block efficiency is bad unless you're not running KD

supple dock
#

After I watch this analysis of Junji Ito's works

mighty cipher
#

Piss

supple dock
#

it's not like im 1400 hours into the game or anything

#

~.~

potent echo
supple dock
#

I am a brainlet fuck me

supple dock
potent echo
#

Damn it's going crazy

potent echo
supple dock
#

yeah, usually ranged

#

BUT

mighty cipher
supple dock
#

You can now dive into 5 ragers

potent echo
#

Also maulers and crusher don't care about your stam

#

Ragers usually leave me alone lol somehow

supple dock
#

maulers and crushers CAN be blocked without 1shotting you

#

It just takes... a lot

wind spruce
#

No, they cant

supple dock
#

I've DEFINITELY seen it in a video

wind spruce
#

Ive tested it with 11 stam, deflector and every block efficiency perks

supple dock
#

Huh.

potent echo
#

Either that or just go for the kill then rev, it's quite rare that you are in a situation where you have to unga bunga revive

supple dock
#

Lemme see if I can find the video

mighty cipher
#

For Honor Unblockable type shit

wind spruce
#

They can only be blocked with yellow toughness and catachan

potent echo
#

Aren't they tagged as unblockable in the code

spice veldt
#

yep

#

and crushers/maulers have some minimum melee bleedthrough to your HP even if you have a shit ton of toughness DR last time I checked

potent echo
#

Consult this, block bypass tag on overheads

supple dock
#

Huh.

#

Can't find the video anyways it was super obscure meme shit

mighty cipher
wind spruce
mighty cipher
#

That’s fair

#

I found out that you could parry the crusher overheads on a whim and god damn I wish that my recording software was set to pick up voice. I was laughing like a cartoon supervillain.

supple dock
#

I swear I'm not crazy and I did see a video of not getting 1shot ;;

#

Maybe they had a bunch of hp?

#

idk man

terse saffron
#

you definitely can survive that with enough HP on psyker

wind spruce
#

I'll test it

mighty cipher
#

I think it does around 350 damage?

#

You gotta be built like a Leman Russ but it’s possible.

potent echo
#

Damage numbers are all in the link KEKW_ogryn

mighty cipher
#

Bold of you to assume I checked it.

#

Or that I’m going to check it.
(I’m going as we speak because this stuff fascinates me)

wind spruce
#

Max health and block efficiency, still die

supple dock
#

Huh.

#

Thanks for double checking

#

I'm still sure I saw it, but whatever. Will accept this as reality

wind spruce
#

Yellow toughness?

supple dock
#

it was before

wind spruce
#

Ahh

mighty cipher
#

You could shove a sniper rifle up my ass and fire and I wouldn’t take any damage with Yellow Toughness.

#

It’s crazy stuff

torpid girder
lethal lagoon
#

What part of the convo did I miss

supple dock
#

depends on who you're responding to

lethal lagoon
#

Oh he had invulnability on

potent echo
#

Boo

wind spruce
lethal lagoon
#

Right?

mighty cipher
# mighty cipher It’s *crazy* stuff

Like, it’s says in the description for the zealot relic that it grants your teammates invincibility, and it it’s not really lying. The only thing that I’ve seen potent enough to bust through it is Super Fire and standing in new fire for a solid few seconds.

potent echo
#

As long as you have yellow, you are protected by the emperor

supple dock
#

for the second hit

mighty cipher
#

Yes he was

supple dock
#

???

mighty cipher
#

I must be fucking schizophrenic or something because I rewatched it and saw that he was at full toughness before the hit. And now he isn’t.

lethal lagoon
#

There's 2 hits

#

It got me too

wind spruce
#

Skip to the last hit

#

The first two were flawed

lethal lagoon
#

First hit has invul on

supple dock
#

OH

#

It was so close to the end I thought that was it

#

oops

#

yeah okay me big dumb

lethal lagoon
#

We dumb

wind spruce
#

Nah just lazy editing on my behalf

mighty cipher
supple dock
#

LOL

#

I'm gaslighting myself with seeing that crusher hit like 9 months ago

#

I SWEAR I saw it BECAUSE I MADE A MENTAL NOTE

#

q.q

#

and my memory is so shit that I believe it because if it's something I remember it's something I've made a note about

lethal lagoon
#

Maybe you were kind of hating yourself and decided to play heresy.

supple dock
#

oh....I uhm

#

I forgot that other difficulties existed..

#

..

#

okay that'd explain it

lethal lagoon
#

I think Tide games are pretty unique in the horde space in that enemies have health and damage scaling

#

Usually games just add more tougher enemies and more hard enemy units, right?

supple dock
#

Killing Floor 2 does the same thing

lethal lagoon
#

So just

supple dock
#

lmao I'm here thinking wtf how'd that guy in the video survive

#

"oh yeah heresy exists"

#

._.

mighty cipher
potent echo
#

DRG also has scaling enemy health

#

At least HD is consistent and I don't need to worry about lmao breakpoints

mighty cipher
potent echo
#

Just cry

mighty cipher
#

You bet your ass I did

potent echo
#

That game isn't made like tide, you can't solo carry it

mighty cipher
#

Do I tell him or does someone else wanna do it?

potent echo
#

Running from every fight doesn't count KEKW_ogryn

mighty cipher
#

You don’t even have to. It’s all about target priority and knowing how to be efficient with your strategems.

#

The 110s can take out a Titan in one volley, but it’s finicky as all hell to do.

potent echo
#

Yea just aim better

mighty cipher
#

Mf TELL THAT TO EAGLE-1

#

I DONT AIM THIS SHIT SHE DOES AND SHE SUCKS AT IT

lethal lagoon
#

Don't slander my waifu

potent echo
#

HD2 the cope game

mighty cipher
#

I WATCHED HER WHIFF A TANK IN 4K. WITH FOOTAGE AND A LIVE REACTION.

potent echo
#

Just crying myself to sleep and saying nah this is fun

#

Having only 3 strategems? Peak

#

4 stratagem havers are crutching

mighty cipher
#

Real men run
Stalwart, Orbital Gas, EMS, and Smoke strike. Coupled with the Diligence CS, Dagger, and smoke grenades. And don’t forget heavy armor with the fortified Perk.

potent echo
#

Nah I only eat white bread

#

Autocannon goes with everything

mighty cipher
austere crest
#

wait

#

wasnt charge rate above resistance?

#

am i going crazy or were they swapped

mighty cipher
#

It got flipped

austere crest
#

sure did

#

im so glad i was reading

potent echo
#

Crafting update Servoskull

austere crest
#

THATS literally all there was hahaha

#

massive overhaul

potent echo
#

It's supposed to come later in the yearᵀᴹ

hearty laurel
#

time to see if disrupt destiny is reasonable this patch

potent echo
#

It's better imo

hearty laurel
#

it is.

wind spruce
#

It was always way above reasonable

cosmic sigil
#

it went from 70% dark chocolate to 85%

rough egret
#

does force sword not have a special anymore

supple dock
#

it does

lethal lagoon
#

The default for special is mouse button 5 lmao

#

That might be why it's not "working".

wind spruce
tribal girder
#

anyone eles getting the empower psyonic bug where sometimes killing elites doesnt give you stack?

full void
#

Any Psykers able to help with a returning player? First time back since they introduced new skill trees.

lethal lagoon
#

I got some specials and elites confused and thought EP was bugged, is it that?

tribal girder
#

no i was clearly getting killfeeds on elites but not getting ep charges

#

only happened since update

lethal lagoon
full void
#

@lethal lagoon Thanks this is a great start. I guess I need to think about a build and weapons etc.

plucky flax
#

Don't play blaze trauma until buffs. NODDERS

lethal lagoon
full void
#

Still running the old Antax mk v combat axe and a Normanus mk VI surge force staff - probably dead items now.

lethal lagoon
#

here's what I called the "basic bitch surge build"

#

It's about as orthodox as it get's

full void
#

Are you the editor of that compendium? It's really impressive.

lethal lagoon
#

Keep in mind surge is a way different weapon, it's more single target damage now

#

Nah

tribal girder
#

i would drop the six stack for smite jump

full void
#

Surge is a single target 😮

lethal lagoon
#

I strongly disagree, smite jump is only if you are using smite super frequently.

tribal girder
#

the idea of this build is use surge for single target pick off, and use smite plus creeping flames to delete large groups

lethal lagoon
#

There's no time in a real game that smite jump is going to have a signficant difference

#

Creeping flames already kill all horde, bruisers, and shooter mobs.

plucky flax
#

When I play illisi surge smite I use smite once every 5 games.

#

You should horde clear with illisi and creeping flames.

lethal lagoon
#

Unless I'm running EP smite brain off mode, smite is super rare

tribal girder
#

in that case i would still drop 6 stacks for empathic evasion

#

6 stack aint that good imo

plucky flax
#

Wut it's so gud

#

Big cdr on creeping flames.

lethal lagoon
#

Creeping flame is a huge part of the build, so yeah

plucky flax
#

EE is not that good on surge your fire rate is not fast enough.

lethal lagoon
#

^

plucky flax
#

Unlike on purga.

#

Where you crit constantly making you in dodge mode very often.

#

Or assail with tru aim crits spam.

tribal girder
#

i argue you dont need empathic on purge beacuse of supression

lethal lagoon
#

You can already run into shooter packs with surge

#

there's no need for EE on top

plucky flax
#

No but when you run up to a big group of spread out shooters and gunners.

lethal lagoon
#

There's also shriek if you ever really get overwhelme.

plucky flax
#

If you can get your flame on a few of them, the rest would miss their shots.

tribal girder
#

i find it i spam shriek so much i dont always get value out of 6 stacks

plucky flax
#

If the shooters pack are together then just use melee.

lethal lagoon
#

The value is shrieking so much

plucky flax
#

I spam it all the time and 6 stacks is huge.

#

I get 10s cd on creeping flames.

full void
#

Alrighty I'll have to do a lil research and reading to see what has changed it seems pretty substantial 😮

plucky flax
#

For some crazy ass spam.

lethal lagoon
#

You can just run the build I posted, as I said, it's super basic.

#

Spam surge and creeping flames(f)

#

it's brain off mode

full void
#

I like turning brain off 😄

tribal girder
#

i have a build but its not very beginner friendly lol

lethal lagoon
manic halo
#

why is it whenever i look in this chat there actual graphs, diagrams and number crunching

#

you all RP without meaning to

lethal lagoon
#

those were my charts

plucky flax
#

32 mins game surge spam. Nearly 300k damage from warpfire alone.

tribal girder
#

thats pretty normal for a warpfire build

plucky flax
#

Only 100k less than damage from the surge itself.

tribal girder
#

same with flame trauma

full void
#

Oh yeah mods 😮

plucky flax
#

Well you get warpfire way less than blaze trauma.

#

Since you only create warpfire from creeping flames and combustion.

tribal girder
#

also depends on luck and elite density per game

plucky flax
#

Blaze trauma meme it's nearly 50-50. whatthefuck_heresy

tribal girder
#

sometimes people just apply warpfire first and dont count towards your damage

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

There's only 1 warpfire source in this game

#

There you go

#

Believe it or not, OnlySmites carried that game

#

I have proof

plucky flax
#

Stop spreading unsanctionedpsyker propaganda. Put him on the black ship.

tribal girder
#

put him back on the blackship

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

Oh you so you were wrong it's 50/50

#

It's 60/40 in that scoreboard

plucky flax
#

Then you kill maybe a few more elites and it's back in real time about 7 or 8s.

lethal lagoon
#

I don't have any good smug emotes

plucky flax
#

2 of the best talents

lethal lagoon
#

I tried running aura with scrier's and having to have BB wasn't worth

plucky flax
#

Imagine picking 7.5% elite damage pepeLaugh

lethal lagoon
tribal girder
#

let me pick assail and get pskinetic aura

#

i fking hate this discrimination

plucky flax
#

It's like that 6s cd reduction talent on vet. I always take it.

#

Then shouts spam and press f through the map.

tribal girder
#

but vet cd is in the middle

lethal lagoon
#

Look at my big F

tribal girder
#

you cant take cdr if you pick assail

lethal lagoon
#

Bro I love seeing that image, flaming shriek is so good

plucky flax
#

Simply don't play assail. sad

lethal lagoon
tribal girder
#

bruh

manic halo
#

Stfu with the nerd shit and pretend the game just came out

#

what do u think of my build guiys

potent echo
#

Could it be.. assail bad??

plucky flax
#

No ascendant blaze that's rip.

tribal girder
#

if psykenetic was available for assail i would be so happy

plucky flax
#

Budget creeping flames.

manic halo
#

Nah bro 2 2 2 2 1 3

#

its where its ayt

lethal lagoon
#

Ascendant blaze only doing 4 stacks was such bait

plucky flax
#

Well it used to stack slaughterer though.

#

And with wildfire.

manic halo
#

ngl i don't even rember what that last talent I have selected did

lethal lagoon
#

Too much thinking

plucky flax
#

You can ascendant blaze, equip illisi, then get 75% power from old slaughterer.

lethal lagoon
manic halo
#

I remeber quicken because it was for a penance

lethal lagoon
#

But now it's just annoying

#

To not have aura

potent echo
#

Old pinning fire KEKW_ogryn

manic halo
#

lol wait that uses the smite icon art

#

SMITE WAS REAL FROM THE BGINGING

potent echo
#

Remember SAP? I don't Sitgryn

plucky flax
#

Old heavy sword headtaker. whatthefuck_heresy

#

Those power level was wild.

manic halo
#

god old zap

lethal lagoon
manic halo
#

wtf was I doing

tribal girder
manic halo
#

I was on some new shit

manic halo
#

smh

lethal lagoon
#

Did you just reply to yourself?

manic halo
#

Why did they make venting shrieke only remove 50%

#

instead of 100

tribal girder
#

must have nothing to do with psykers topping scoreboards all the time

manic halo
#

ye cause its the only one worth talking to

#

nah but for real, venting shriek with 100% peril removal

#

that was crazy

#

we didn't know how good we had it.

potent echo
#

Psyker weak 😠 buff

tribal girder
#

i wouldnt want 100 removal for a lot of builds

manic halo
#

Remember brain burst stacks decaying all at once???

#

UGHHHH

lethal lagoon
#

100 removal for EP smite plz and thank you NODDERS

potent echo
#

Remember when DD decayed all at once KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
manic halo
#

for us all

tribal girder
#

i m gonna head out cuz i never played this game before the talent tree update

potent echo
#

I feel old thinking about those times

lethal lagoon
#

So many alt psykers lots to the wastes before they added 8 slots

#

Now you can just change voices and heights willy nilly

potent echo
plucky flax
lethal lagoon
#

Yes

supple dock
#

psyker had some decent choices pre tree though

#

Zealot's choices were so shit

potent echo
#

Wow actually clears ragers KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
#

Last patch EP smite full combo did bout 80% rager health

#

Now before the combo is over ragers are deadge

potent echo
#

EP smite gang

#

And then they take shield whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
#

Shield smite op

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
#

Best support.

#

Blame team if loses

manic halo
#

I acutally don't have mmany old psyker clips

#

anyone got some?

potent echo
#

Yea it's the teams fault they didn't create enough space for the support to support

supple dock
potent echo
#

Protect the support okay 🗣️ 🗣️

lethal lagoon
supple dock
#

LMAO

#

TANK/SUPPORT

#

bruh mmorpgs have rotted the playerbase

full void
#

Oh joy I installed new mods and now game no load 😐

potent echo
lethal lagoon
#

Sometimes, when I want to feel something, I go on reddit or the steam community page

supple dock
#

good'ol floor huggers

#

FloorTide

#

DarkFloor

potent echo
#

Take health curios because you get more downed HP

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Idk if that's actually true lol

supple dock
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idk actually, but it's the same energy as "bro you need more wound curios"

supple dock
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I was told that. multiple times.

lethal lagoon
supple dock
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I had to try hard not to laugh at them and explain that wound curios only work if you get shit on

lethal lagoon
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When the guy last place on the scoreboard backseats, definitely doesn't happen to me.

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I definitely didn't get backseated by a smite bubbler

supple dock
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lmao

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S U P P O R T

potent echo
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Lol you should have been there when I was soloing with 3 dead teammates vs boss and horde

lethal lagoon
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The smite bubbler definitely wasn't dead

potent echo
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Some guy was like "you shouldn't use thammer and shotgun, low dps"

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While tied up in the next room

supple dock
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wh-

potent echo
supple dock
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That'd be cool if the thammer was a weapon that focused on dps and not massive burst damage wtf

lethal lagoon
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For RP reasons, people wanting for revive should be muted

manic halo
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i have a question about distrupt destiny stacks. Do you only gain them if you kill the enemy with a warp attack?...

potent echo
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Read whatthefuck_heresy

supple dock
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my favorite line when people start talking shit after they die

potent echo
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That's when they can talk shit

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Start to nitpick people's builds

manic halo
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so...if I kill them with gun

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i should get stacks?

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I DON"T UNDERSTAND

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THE SHAKING

unreal basalt
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Ok kitten

potent echo
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Kill them with anything

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You make them the die

manic halo
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i remeber when all the force swords were glitched and had deflector as base

cinder moon
potent echo
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They should let us emote in missions

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I want to gopnik squat everywhere

lethal lagoon
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I wanna spam

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Everytime I get backseated

cinder moon
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i got crushered the instant an airlock door opened yesterday, the ogryn had bullrush and used it like 3 times. i wanted to say something but didn't bother since we were still winning

plucky flax
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I steal yo seat

manic halo
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i dunno WHY the video is like 180p

lethal lagoon
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🥔

manic halo
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but

lethal lagoon
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Also, it's a visual bug

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You still have the stack

full void
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what are trinkets?

manic halo
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hmmm

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ok thank u

lethal lagoon
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cosmetics

cinder moon
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trinkets are the things that hang off your weapon

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side note, the little bell trinkets should tinkle

full void
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Ohhhhhhhhh unter appearance gg :/

supple dock
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my favorite trinkets are the ones on the back of guns so you can't even see them

cinder moon
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i like using the eternis hourglass on the grenade launchers, it's like a pet grenade

supple dock
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So uhm

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Who wants to do a 4 man psyker run on maelstrom?

strong gulch
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Yeee. I was sent a wax writing tablet for my birthday!!

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Oh wait. Fecking darktide chat

cinder moon
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congrats, sibling

potent echo
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Actually speaking of airlock doors

supple dock
strong gulch
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Thanks KEKW_ogryn

potent echo
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The doors actually killed a daemonhost for us one mission

supple dock
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I've done that!

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It's incredible

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Can zealots still push monstrosities into the void?

potent echo
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Yes but it's harder

cinder moon
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i got invited to striketeam by a rando 29 a couple weeks ago, he queued us up for a malice mission, i showed them all you can kill bosses with doors and 2 of them were like "wtf" and "the more you know"

potent echo
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Don't you need everyone inside first tho

supple dock
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it doesn't have to be the airlock

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any door worked

cinder moon
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any door that closes will kill bosses

potent echo
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Oh

cinder moon
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easiest with ones you can toggle

potent echo
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I never actively tried those

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Door gaming

cinder moon
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door is the strongest weapon against heresy

supple dock
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and because of you guys I'm gonna be running a Toughness/Health/Stamina set of curios ;;

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I hate it

strong gulch
cinder moon
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now learn cuniform

lethal lagoon
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now summon the old gods

supple dock
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gro-goroth hear my prayer

cinder moon
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praise janus, god of doors

supple dock
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if anyone knows where that's from I'll love you forever

manic halo
supple dock
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you guys are right. you don't dserve my love

manic halo
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FS making sure I get qued with 3 other psykers with the same build as I load in

cinder moon
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isn't gro-goroth that little green guy from that new disney star trek show? whatthefuck_heresy

supple dock
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b r u h

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actually i think it's Gro'goroth

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yeah that's it

lethal lagoon
manic halo
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why are you looking at me

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stop it