psyker-class

[cinder moon]

i dislike autorifles and have godroll laspistols, so

[marble crater]

Surge builds a lot of peril, you don't want low quell speed

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like half the reason autorifles are so overtunned is because no one would use them otherwise

[fast frost]

omnissiah be smiling down upon me today with my blessings

[willow hazel]

wow they really did not need to buff scriers

[marble crater]

Very nice

[tall mango]

surge is very fun

[lethal lagoon]

What a shame those stats aren't better, that's a god roll

[fast frost]

Naturally rolled both of them T4

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly though, those stats are pretty good

[wind spruce]

This is the best build imo, you can change some of the top half talents around

[lethal lagoon]

Warp resist might make peril edging a bit harder, but it really depends on if you peril edge in the first place.

[fast frost]

Yeah I ran through 300k and that was the best I got. What I lacked in stat luck I got in really really good roles tonight

[lethal lagoon]

Unrelated, but I found a subway near me that makes bread like they used to a decade ago. I've had nothing but subway for a week.

[marble crater]

Always need to peril edge to hear the voices loud and clear

[fast frost]

Jeez my build is radically different to this

[cinder moon]

they're just boring to me, i need to have some fun while running assail

[lethal lagoon]

When that columbus guns down the Ogryn Gunner just right

[willow hazel]

With the 20% CD modifier, Scrier's gets like 90% uptime now

[strong gulch]

@lethal lagoon I reblessed my tiny fire trauma. pew pew only

[spark swallow]

huh, looks very similar to my build. Only difference I think is I have the extend dodge, SG+Movespeed modifier only, and extra toughness

[lethal lagoon]

I pray not for you but your enemies

[fast frost]

Just to double check I’m changing my perks to crit chance and like flak or something?

[cinder moon]

look at my laspistols tho

[lethal lagoon]

You can test out Flak Maniacs

Biggest advantage of Free perk surge is the experimentation

Flak unyielding, flak 5% crit, Flak-

[marble crater]

Flak Elite

[fast frost]

I’ll maybe take flak crit

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Is 2 the old or new one

[cinder moon]

i use both

depends on the build

oh, the old one

[fast frost]

It would be cool if you could spend a refine slot to buff the weapons core stats

[lethal lagoon]

I wouldn't use both, I'd just alter the left one when I wanted boss damage/dumdum

Carpace is kind of a waste stat

[spark swallow]

I'd personally use the 1st one, I prefer melee killing unyielding

[lethal lagoon]

The left one is BiS when you swap your optional choices

[cinder moon]

yeah i tend to use left one

[fast frost]

Maccabian mk4 perks? I’ve got one slot free. It’s currently got unyielding and flak

[spark swallow]

but I think maniacs are forgiving now? (have not tested).
normally I just assail or shoot them, not bothering with the ridiculous stagger when you get combo'd

[lethal lagoon]

You want the pokey stick to poke mutants, so I'd do unyielding maniacs.

[fast frost]

Ok ty

Is maniacs like ragers etc? Can never remember.

[spark swallow]

Mine's carapace, flak with rending

[spark swallow]

yes, ragers and mutants

[lethal lagoon]

I'm not sure if flak has any practical usage on ds4

[spark swallow]

If they don't have flak armor

[lethal lagoon]

In terms of breakpoints

[fast frost]

Never used psykers melee weapons tbf

Usually run a void staff build which uses transfer to never quell

So anything near me tends to be blown to bits quite fast

[cinder moon]

ds4 heavies will annihilate pretty much anything

[spark swallow]

it does, boosts up damage against flak units, ie: those big ogryn with hammers

[lethal lagoon]

That's carpace

[spark swallow]

head is flak iirc

I always aim for that with rending

[cinder moon]

behold, my "oops all wounds" fit

even got the right frame

[lethal lagoon]

That's carpace bud, you can see it in the pysch

[spark swallow]

I'll check it later

clocked in atm

[fast frost]

Can I get a fools rundown on how to play this? I’ve never tried scryer before

[spark swallow]

coz if thats the case, I'll switch my flak into mutant damage

[lethal lagoon]

People run carpace specifically for crushers

[spark swallow]

basically think of scriers as crit boosters

use it any time as you please may it be melee or range

[lethal lagoon]

Typically you run it with columbus. It's a run'n'gun playstyle, lots of switching between gun, assial, and melee.

Scrier's is for elite packs/bad moments for use with columbus mostly.

Great for pokey poke too

[spark swallow]

this works great with the skill that gives you range invulnerability skill node

[spark swallow]

I personally use them against groups of elites if needed with assail

[strong gulch]

Crusher head is Cara.

[spark swallow]

oohh thanks!

looks like I can drop flak

how's the DD patch for everyone btw? I did a quick run last night and nay I felt the change on the targetting system

the targetting certainly feels quicker but I think its still not that good

[lethal lagoon]

Oh god, you have 100% uptime on scriers gaze if you kill 12 elites during it with warp charges and pyschknietic aura, that's gonna be fun.

And it's not like you need 100% uptime.

Waiting a few seconds for scrier's to come back isn't a big deal.

It's melee build time

[spark swallow]

I'm just happy they fixed the ability cooldown reduction

it feels quicker to recharge now

[potent echo]

You still need like 2 seconds to quell

[rare storm]

is flakiac still the general best perks for void/gunker?

[wind spruce]

What weapons are you running

[spark swallow]

I typically don't extend them so there's no need to quell

[wind spruce]

I don't think you even need 12 kills

Well it depends if you're running seers presence and CDR perks

[lethal lagoon]

Pretty sure it's 12 or 11

[potent echo]

Nah I meant if even you had scriers immediately after your current one ends you still need to get rid of your peril first before you re-scrier

[willow hazel]

scrier's last for 10s after you hit 100%, which is enough time to quell

[potent echo]

Oh the damage, but no crit

[lethal lagoon]

Lmao I straight up forgot about quell time

[potent echo]

I wonder if the afterglow effect stacks with scrier active effect

[lethal lagoon]

Oh shit. That would potentially be the worst bug yet

[fast frost]

Currently a staff which I know is wrong

[spark swallow]

If you're not front lining, I think its okay. SG still works okay with staff but yeah manange your peril.
I used to run Warp Battery with lightning staff on SG. its great if you have a good staff with good warp resist and quelling speed

[fast frost]

I think my void staff would maybe be good as it’s got transfer and is CC/clear

I’m kinda only interested in getting the penance tbf as it’s a bit too situational/niche

Like the other two are just “use at high peril/use when need bubble” and then I don’t have to worry about it until I next have it up

[potent echo]

Venting actually has huge damage potential, it's more optimal to use it to destroy shooters behind cover/walls or a huge horde

[cosmic sigil]

Ok am I going crazy or does every weapon card with 6 modifier bars lack one???

[willow hazel]

I don't think any weapons have 6 bars

[cosmic sigil]

I am going crazy then

Maybe they just changed the order then

[hexed geyser]

They never had 6...

[strong gulch]

This was incredibly silly. I was doing LMB main and the psyker was doing smite. I was doing creeping flames every so often and that got more warp fire damage than the other psyker with purg because of how commited they were to smite. Loved that silly run.

[cosmic sigil]

Now vs before

I knew something had changed

[potent echo]

Someone sneezed on the weapon card

[strong gulch]

Yeah, the weapon stats are in a different order and orientation. It is driving me up the wall.

I'm just being inflexible tho.

[potent echo]

Crafting changes 🥵

Maybe they will let us swap the stats

[onyx sentinel]

what does this actually give?

[lethal lagoon]

Oh fuck, maybe I should look through the penances, that's an actual penance challenge, rather than artifical challenge

They really did good work

[onyx sentinel]

it doesn'

[cosmic sigil]

Same

[onyx sentinel]

it doesn't specify heresy or damnation though

[lethal lagoon]

There's no auric maelstrom heresy

[onyx sentinel]

I reckon heresy maelstrom is gonna be filled with shitters wanting to be carried for the penance

[cosmic sigil]

Potato did you know I became a DS2 Stan?

[lethal lagoon]

There's literally no auric maelstrom heresy.

[onyx sentinel]

oh really

[cosmic sigil]

Heresy is it's own maelstrom

Or was

[lethal lagoon]

AURIC, guys, AURIC

Auric Maelstroms are always 5

[onyx sentinel]

yeah okay, so then everyone's funneled into auric damnation 5

[lethal lagoon]

I hope so, that'll be fun

Game's too easy nowadays

[cosmic sigil]

I have seen an insignia for 100 auric missions done... I assume they are not counting what has been completed before the update.. right?

[lethal lagoon]

It depends on the penance but lots track pre-update

[onyx sentinel]

haven't tried the new modifier, that plus monstrosity spawn sounds like ass

imagine kiting to a gassed area

[cosmic sigil]

Welcome to Fartland

[onyx sentinel]

with 3 chaos spawns on your ass

[jovial juniper]

A mutie moving at light speed

[cosmic sigil]

Hmmm if only I didn't crash when trying to talk to Heltia

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, I just realized a way to cheese that penance

Oh well, I'm sure there's another hard one

[onyx sentinel]

well crit+invocation zealot can't really die in this game so I guess it's not a challenge if you don't want it to be

[cinder moon]

my least favorite penances so far

i still don't see the draw of assail or DD

[lethal lagoon]

Assuming you are pubbing, part of the challenge is just beating 5 auric maels in a row.

No leaving or anything

Rather than just dying per say

[onyx sentinel]

wonder if the description implies you can't have any failed runs

[lethal lagoon]

I mean how would you fail a mission without dying or leaving

Oh, insta loss screens would be sadge if you were at 4/5

Leaving/DCing counted for the malice downs one.

[onyx sentinel]

yeah I meant leaving

[willow hazel]

the draw is doing lots of damage while running fast

[lethal lagoon]

Zoom zoom

Columbus Assial is absolutely the assualt psyker lifestyle

[queen moss]

I have to ask - has your other teammates lack of speed (going through the map) gotten you killed in level 4 and 5

[lethal lagoon]

My teammates have literally never gotten me killed, that's loser talk.

Well okay, sometimes with old DH mechanics, but still!

If you can't survive alone, then you have no bussiness rushing ahead

[strong gulch]

Other than a teammate assassinating me with a barrel or something like that, I can't only remember one instance of a teammate goofing up and that killing me.

Otherwise it was my own fault if it was in a player's, capability to chance.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh no, I forgot about barrels

I've blamed people for that

[strong gulch]

Between skill issues and brain fog, I feck up a good bit.

[magic hull]

they just tryna make you suffer a little bit more until they drop the next update

[lethal lagoon]

I'm really a huge fan of that penance, I think ima browse and see what other challenging ones there are.

[magic hull]

I think ill pass

considering my region is full of chinese

no hate, they always do seird shit

almost impossible to do penance properly

[wind spruce]

It does!

[lethal lagoon]

Is it as OP as it seems?

[wind spruce]

Only the finesse/damage stacks are active in the second phase, not the 10% damage and 20% crit base

[wind spruce]

Not really tbh

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Because you have to quell first anyway

[willow hazel]

I am pretty sure some of the flat damage lasts too

[wind spruce]

But I suppose for about 5s yeah you're pretty Godlike

[wind spruce]

Only the "For every second spent in scriers gain 1% damage & finesse up to a maximum of 30%" part lingers

[wind spruce]

If you time it perfectly using solidity you could enter a fight with regular scriers plus 30% damage and 30% finesse for about 7s

But it's just a meme dream

[lethal lagoon]

How's columbus feel without assial?

[wind spruce]

I like it, been using it like that for ages

[lethal lagoon]

What melee you run

[willow hazel]

Yeah like I said the flat damage lingers

[wind spruce]

Duelling sword, deimos, rashad, knoife

[lethal lagoon]

No horde clear at all then?

[willow hazel]

the dueling sword with scirers is honestly enough horde clear, but assail is always an option

[wind spruce]

That's a bad way of describing it considering the 10% damage base doesn't linger

[willow hazel]

but the variable 30% does

[wind spruce]

Duelling sword is honestly not enough horde clear hence rashad is good

And we're specifically talking about without assail

[lethal lagoon]

I've run into a corner where my team literally didn't have enough horde clear to do an event, dueling sword with scirer's is definitely not enough. I mean tbf they were constantly dying and I spent a lot of time reviving, but still.

[wind spruce]

Try rashad, genuinely

You could also take Illisi

[willow hazel]

I have been running dueling/scriers/psy aura today and it's fine against hordes

[lethal lagoon]

rashad is which axe?

[wind spruce]

Combat

[willow hazel]

What is the benefit of the Rashad over the mk7 tac axe?

[wet belfry]

dueling sword is pretty good horde clear with the full scriers gaze, disrupt destiny build

mostly because it builds an insane overkill damage.

[wind spruce]

Duelling sword is bottom three horde clear

[willow hazel]

it kills two things per swing and attacks fast

it's not like an illisi or combat axe, but it's still functional as horde clear

[wind spruce]

Certainly functional

[wind spruce]

Armor penetration

[willow hazel]

true

[wind spruce]

And its easier to use

But I do like taxes

Did they fix the mk7? It was broken last patch

[willow hazel]

but it's less finesse scaling, attack speed, and dodge distance

[wind spruce]

Apparently

[willow hazel]

what was wrong with the mk7?

I used it a lot last patch

[wind spruce]

There was certain animations that were broken but this is 2nd hand info

I was using mk 2

[willow hazel]

well it wasn't broken enough for me to notice lol

[wind spruce]

It might not have applied to psyker since we don't have attack speed buffs

[willow hazel]

yeah that could be it

[thorn cedar]

i know the IV has pretty frequent animation breaks when using the special but no idea for the others

[willow hazel]

the 4s attack patterns are too jank for me

[wind spruce]

Four has the vertical heavies right?

[thorn cedar]

is my fave

ye

and the first two special hits are pinpoint

[wind spruce]

Do you primarily use them or the lights?

[thorn cedar]

very easy to stop a mutant with

[hushed egret]

dont all the combat axes have purely vertical heavies?

I remember the only horizontal attack among them being a light on the mk2 or something

[wind spruce]

Tactical axe convo

[hushed egret]

thought I heard some caxes in there but idk nevermind

[thorn cedar]

i mostly spam lights with pushes

since the push attack is functionally identical to the heavies

on zealot anyway

[wind spruce]

Yeah I use push heavy combo with the mk 2

Can reach one hit breakpoint on both bruisers and go to town with bromentum

[willow hazel]

I have been running this today with dueling sword/laspistol and tac axe/revolver and it feels very strong

the cooldown buffs make it feel so much better

[wind spruce]

Yeah that looks good

[cinder moon]

i was just trying voidstrike with DD and vent

waow

[wind spruce]

Amazing build even before this update

[willow hazel]

and now DD is much more consistent

[lethal lagoon]

Auric maelstroms are only tier 5 right?

[cinder moon]

trying DD with assail was legit giving me a headache, glad i switched

[lethal lagoon]

Cause there's a penance that says "Auric Maelstroms on Damnation"

And now I'm wondering if they just meant maelstrom

[wind spruce]

Void shriek was always extremely good with DD because it made refreshing it easier, should be even better now

[lethal lagoon]

Cause other penances have just "Auric Maelsteom

So there's a chance they made a mistake in the penance langauge

But it's under auric

So that's weird

[thorn cedar]

i didnt get a single opportunity to see my own DD uptime lol

but i am using perfectionist now

man that bug sucks

[wind spruce]

What bug?

[thorn cedar]

the buff doesnt show in the bar

[lethal lagoon]

Oh does DD still randomly just stop working still?

Yeah

[thorn cedar]

its working

youll just never know

[lethal lagoon]

Oh it still works even though you can't see it, are you sure?

[willow hazel]

Yeah you can go a whole game now without ever seeing a single DD stack

[smoky wigeon]

@lethal lagoon yes I'm sure

[willow hazel]

because the way to fix the bug is for the buff to fall off

[lethal lagoon]

[thorn cedar]

and you rarely do now lol

[smoky wigeon]

I got the achievement and it never was on my bar lol

[potent echo]

I have a buff bar mod so I never had an issue so far, played like 4 games

[lethal lagoon]

Oh fuck, no wonder some people said they never saw the bug

I was getting really confused a few months ago

when I talked about it and some people were like "that never happens"

[potent echo]

But that mod just moves the existing one onto another bar

Soo 🤷‍♂️

[lethal lagoon]

[thorn cedar]

its wild to me that it would take 100s to totally lose all my stacks

[potent echo]

150s

With lingering

[thorn cedar]

pffft

im in it to win it

maximum destiny

[wind spruce]

How easy are you finding it to maintain 20+ stacks

[thorn cedar]

i dunno because the ffffffucking bug

[wind spruce]

Lmao

[potent echo]

I was gamer 25 stacks until I realised I was one shitting bruisers to the head with only 10 stacks

[thorn cedar]

but i already completed that new DD penance in three matches

so i guess thats a benchmark of some kind

[potent echo]

DD penance easy

Now I'm grinding the smite penance

We are all smitekers today

[lethal lagoon]

I got 1400 for the smite penance in 1 game

So that'll be less of a grind

[potent echo]

Damn I only have 500

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

I'm not a real smiteker 😔

[wind spruce]

@lethal lagoon scriers cooldown: (25x0.96^3) - (25 x 0.1) - (25x0.45) = 8.3684

(Cdr perks, seers presence, warp charges)

[lethal lagoon]

I got 12 seconds without seers presence

[wind spruce]

Edited

[lethal lagoon]

I find it hard to believe seer's presence drops it to 8.3, I can go check right now though, issue is my mod rounds up

So if it's 9 seconds you might be right

[wind spruce]

Did u have cdr perks

[lethal lagoon]

yes

[wind spruce]

But yeah rounding should account for it

The number always rounds up

Otherwise you'd see a 0 in the last half second

[lethal lagoon]

10s

[wind spruce]

Weird

[lethal lagoon]

seer's presence, 6 stacks, and 12% cdr

I'm guess they aren't indepdent

[wind spruce]

Did you say it was showing 20s without warp charges

[lethal lagoon]

Without warp charges but with curios was 21 I think

Its 19s with seer's

Okay so it's not seperate calcs, they are all additive probably

Or multiplicative cause that's bad in this case

yeah multiplicative

[lethal lagoon]

So does the mod round down?

[wind spruce]

Possibly

[lethal lagoon]

OH

there's no zero

it goes decimal at the end

Okay, so 10.9

[lethal lagoon]

I wonder how worth it warp charges are cause it kinda takes a while for your Peril to naturally decrease

natural decay is actually just about 10 seconds

So it's pyschkinetic aura that might not be worth it

oh thank god

I'll never have to experience columbus BB

[wind spruce]

Lel

I'll be using warp charges for awhile to see

If you quickly get back warp charges you'll get a longer scriers from inner tranq

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah warp charges will be fun

I had no interest in working BB into it though lmao

Actually, I dunno, it does cover columbus's long range issues...

What about BB, DD, use the downtime to use BB to snipe elites to recover Scrier's

[wind spruce]

Assail is probably still optimal

[lethal lagoon]

[cosmic sigil]

ep assail dmg is back to what is was before the previous nerf?

[strong gulch]

Does BB still count as two hits for faster true aim stacks?

[potent echo]

I would assume so

[potent echo]

Didn't they only change the RMB damage

[lethal lagoon]

Probably?

[cosmic sigil]

Increased Based Damage of Assail Aimed Attacks: from 200 to 225. > yeah you're right

[potent echo]

What breakpoints is that even for

[cosmic sigil]

good question

[potent echo]

Sniper bodyshot or smth

But also based on its fatshark writing those notes I don't know if they really meant RMB or LMB

[fresh vessel]

Wrong channel but teach me your ways.

[wind spruce]

Pretty every enemy in the game lol

[potent echo]

You press F then scan the things

[hushed egret]

only with empowered psionics

[potent echo]

Doesn't sound right though, doesnt empowered RMB do 300 damage or smth

[hushed egret]

idk, the ep description doesnt say

[cosmic sigil]

grinding that cool infiltrator top amirite?

[hushed egret]

patch notes specifies ep though

[potent echo]

Fartshard

It's confusing

[cosmic sigil]

well i use assail with dd and ep is only for br so....

[potent echo]

The only time I dive into EP assail is my surge build

I should play that next to grind EP

[plucky flax]

Pick smoke nade pick stealth pick speed aura then use mk6 power sword and meme

[primal plume]

This is bugged with BB. Charging the cast halfway gives you a stack

meaning each successful BB will give you 2 stacks

[potent echo]

It's been around since patch 13

[primal plume]

i barely ever use those 2 together

[lyric crow]

can u still knock over crushers and bulwarks with the trauma staff on first hit?

[potent echo]

With void you need a full charge to open bukwarks

Haven't tried trauma

[tall mango]

has anyone else noticed the surge staff causing weird audio bugs?

[upper galleon]

I think audio is just bugged

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[tidal scaffold]

one day it shall be mine, for the flavor text alone

its towards the end of the penance score rewards

[abstract arch]

Wooo!! got all the psyker penaces done. now i can sleeps x3

[supple dock]

Let's gooo

[tall mango]

Nicely done

I’m dreading the DD penance

[abstract arch]

My least favourite was probably the smite one but also it was my favourite because I roleplayed as onlysmites psyker for a couple games XDDDD

[potent echo]

Same honestly

[tall mango]

smite is gonna be fun for me, i love smite

[abstract arch]

i was telling people thanks for subbing to my onlysmites and being annoying as always

[plucky flax]

Smite gud

[lethal lagoon]

My first game on my alt psyker named OnlySmites

(it gave me credit for pushing a poxburster )

[abstract arch]

should make another alt for martydom psyker

best build

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

🫵

This ogryn has two left hands

[lethal lagoon]

🫵

[plucky flax]

What mod is causing me to crash in meatgrinder after killing an elite or special in there?

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-pajamas-wake-up-static-shock-gif-3818172

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-palpatine-limited-power-force-gif-27245534

[dark lotus]

hey i heard that this update psyker crit build is now good

can you share with me some good build with it

[lethal lagoon]

Gonna have to be more specific. Some crit builds have always been good, some are by far the highest DPS pre patch.

[plucky flax]

Not blaze trauma crit build nooo

I can recommend surge creeping flames spam crit build though.

[strong gulch]

LMB trauma surge and crit build

is memes

fire trauma not memes

[strong gulch]

I can send you my mod list. Not of mine are causing that problem.

[plucky flax]

I think my mod list is jus too long.

But I'm afraid to remove mods.

[strong gulch]

fecking valid. I played with no mods earlier and I didn't like it. I

[lethal lagoon]

Play no mods and no hud

[strong gulch]

some are accessibility while others are qol.

[onyx sentinel]

Player numbers already approaching pre-patch numbers again 🗿

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I was saying earlier they should have waited till they had content to drop something like this

I'm already running into people I recongize

Back to whatever I was playing probably by tommorow.

That said, I really like the new penance system.

I wouldn't even be mad if there was a battle pass if it came with actual content

[supple dock]

Huh. Found this in the shop

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Pls don't go down the path of the blaze trauma.

[compact cargo]

Join the blaze trauma gang

[strong gulch]

Trying to do smite penance, but I keep trying switch to my gun to quell. 🙃

Even though I play guns sometimes and should know better, I guess I'll just going to keep dumping ammo.

[supple dock]

Upgraded it

[plucky flax]

You can go nexus 4 and flak for specialist.

[strong gulch]

wooo

[supple dock]

yeah, that was what I was thinking

looks like blazing spirit was in the cards

[topaz steppe]

whats the weapons/talent tree for gun psyker

[supple dock]

.,..huh. I don't have nexus 4?

The fuck

Thought I'd have it by now

Guess not

[plucky flax]

Together we can get blaze trauma be buffed.

[lethal lagoon]

Gun with smite, you need unlimited power

[lethal lagoon]

Gun

[topaz steppe]

...

[lethal lagoon]

🧙‍♀️ gun?

Why don't I have a witch emote

[supple dock]

space wizard

casts most powerful spell

gun

[tight plank]

The faster charge thing instead of blazing and replace specialist with flak

[lethal lagoon]

[radiant frigate]

why flurry

[strong gulch]

There was another smiter and I kneeling in a hallway just zapping away side by side. 🙏

[radiant frigate]

bait?

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine he actually caused someone to ruin a near perfect blaze trauma

Low key that'd be hilarious

But also

[supple dock]

lmao

[strong gulch]

Yee. I got the penance. Now to never use the pants.

Boots lookin a lil dry.

[tight plank]

Cause fuck blazing

[strong gulch]

Right right. We need blazing 4 on staff

[tight plank]

Anything that burns is cringe

[supple dock]

Well it's not like I was looking to make it blazing but it's a good roll for that kinda staff

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tight plank]

1 shot is cooler than burning change my mind

[lethal lagoon]

Switching it from blazing to flurry doesn't increase the damage?

And I mean if it get's knocked over and dies from burning before it get's up,that's functionally a 1 shot

[marble crater]

What a terrible time to have eyes

[thin finch]

I tried to use a gun again yesterday, I kind of forgot to pick up ammo

Reminded only by my psyker complaining about someone else oggling ammo

[primal plume]

What accent is the Loner Psyker female supposed to have?

[supple dock]

Found another thing in the shop

[onyx sentinel]

is PerilGauge broken on new patch?

[strong gulch]

Huh. I had more fun with purg and EP BB than I thought I would.

[thin finch]

It's GREAT

and if you build right the Purgatus do quite a lot on bosses

[strong gulch]

Ye. Decent for non-gun psyker.

[thin finch]

Ye. Decent for non-gun psyker.

Gun psyker are kind of the oddities currently

It's weird to go back to gun after Staff, gotta be real

[strong gulch]

Gun has had our better boss damage, and didn't gaze get better up time and DD easier to have up? Either seem like gun boosts.

Boooo

[thin finch]

I think it was with the auto cannon, I think the only gaze buff I've seen if that you can now reduce CD when active (which mean that you can use warp siphon with it now 🙂
DD is fine but I always find it works better with voidstrike because piercing 🤔

nonetheless, I agree that gunker good, I like gun

[lethal lagoon]

Indian

I don't how accurate it is, but when she says "solider" it's very clearly indian.

solider is a good accent tester.

[marble crater]

She has the cute accent, that's all that matters

[lethal lagoon]

I don't have any issues with any voice

Ah just looked it up.

Voice actress does Uk, Aussie, and Indian accents.

It sounds like a cray-cray verson of her indian accent

[marble crater]

Cray cray is right

[thin finch]

I do with the atoma guard after 200 hours

[upper sun]

no the actress is indian but shes doing a romanian accent

[lethal lagoon]

Really?

Hmm

[upper sun]

the female beloved one tho

shes doing nails on a chalkboard asmr

[thin finch]

god bless we can change now

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I'm an idiot, it's very clearly romanian

[lethal lagoon]

You could change before, just make a second character

[strong gulch]

That's what I did for a different shirt color.

[upper sun]

smh this is why americans fall for so many romance scams

[thin finch]

I did ubt was quicly annoyued to do a fifth lvl 30 farm and xeapon farm

[lethal lagoon]

Americans fall for so many romance scams cause we have all the money

[upper sun]

NOT FOR LONG YOU DONT

[lethal lagoon]

Blessings are account wide, so it's not that bad.

[upper sun]

im gonna need 30k dollars to get my gold bars out of the north pole pls help

[thin finch]

but not my godroll voidstrike and mkIV ,otherwise t would have been okay

[strong gulch]

I must have the wrong American frens. They are almost all broke or poor.

[lethal lagoon]

yeah but how much do they have in their 401k

[strong gulch]

401 don't Know her

I'll leave now.

[thin finch]

Good day potato

[strong gulch]

Fair well. Off to think about going to sleep.

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

I CAN PLAY

FINALLY

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[half turtle]

wow i just spent two minutes real time clicking all the "claim" buttons in the penance shop

10/10 experience

[upper sun]

yup same

[supple dock]

So. Does kinetic flayer have a place at all between 15 toughness and flayer?

Or resonance vs 15 toughness

trrying to min/max a bit

2m dockets later

I have a near perfect surge staff

[wind spruce]

15 toughness is infinitely better

[supple dock]

Yeah alright

[wind spruce]

Resonance depends on playstyle

[supple dock]

That's what I thought, but I was just wondering if there wasn't a tiny bit better I could get y'know?

And I do run bb

[wind spruce]

Are you running warp charges

[supple dock]

ye

actually resonance would slap huh

[wind spruce]

Yeah resonance isn't bad

But u might be missing something bc blaze trauma is points scarce

[supple dock]

I'm doin surge for this

[wind spruce]

Do u have the 5% crit node

Oh

Me idiot

[supple dock]

aha

And ofc I have the 5%!

My choices rn are between 15 toughness, 5% movespeed, flayer/resonance

[wind spruce]

I was thinking about the blaze u linked earlier

[supple dock]

yee

I gotcha

[wind spruce]

Resonance is most techy

[supple dock]

I do like techy

[wind spruce]

BB is so slow without it

[supple dock]

Yee

I pretty much exclusively use it for snipers or whatever far away

I'll run resonance and see

[wind spruce]

Welp perfectionism is quite hard to keep up with a melee build

[supple dock]

cause the bulwark hp buff is bruuutal

[wind spruce]

Which isn't surprising really

[wind spruce]

Yeah it is

But it's so fun whacking them over the top of the shield

[cosmic sigil]

It takes 3 br now?

Apparently the Deimos / obscurus special go through

[supple dock]

dunno yet, but it sucks killing them with surge staff

[cosmic sigil]

Sadge

[wind spruce]

Handcannon nerf?

[supple dock]

I had 2 weird experiences

Where I died from half hp in one hit and only trash mobs were around

Then it happened again

There's almost no way 3-4 trash mobs hit me in perfect unity

half hp/half toughness

[marble crater]

Maybe another case of people not knowing enemies are buffed in the gas?

[wind spruce]

Could be

[potent echo]

Go through shield?

Also forcefield being gone seems like a lie

[potent echo]

Their source: I tried it in one game and it felt funny

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah I saw telopots doing that

And the force push opens the shield

[potent echo]

I'll need to try that

[rigid sky]

Have we tried much DD stuff yet? Is it actually good, bugged, anything? One branch better than the other, or context dependent?

[wind spruce]

Perfectionism seems more trouble than it's worth

You still get marked targets not being where you want them and so every 4s is pretty rough

I've tried it with columnus and void but neither of them with assail yet

[rigid sky]

Maybe OK if you are triggering the 3 stack often?

Which Assail would possibly help with

[marble crater]

I was thinking of making a Surge, Assail, Vent, DD build for the penances if nothing else

[rigid sky]

Sounds like a pain tbh, 4s is a very short time in Darktide

[wind spruce]

Assail would definitely help because it just provides such a small opportunity cost way of killing shooters and bruisers that get marked

[rigid sky]

Try with voidstrike. Surge has good crit at least, but voidstrike has good crit and weakspot

[wind spruce]

Yeah that build with void will just be superior

[potent echo]

For assail you don't need to many DD stacks to start oneshotting bruisers

[marble crater]

Console aiming is not the best, voidstrike might be better, but not in my hands

[potent echo]

So lingering feels much better to me

[wind spruce]

@rigid sky I'll keep running perfectionism back but my early verdict is definitely that it's not worth it for only 10 more potential stacks

[wind spruce]

Yeah this is a good point

[rigid sky]

I would like to feel the power of a 25 stack CIAG but 15 stack has always been fine

[potent echo]

And with lingering I can usually fight bosses with at least 10 DD stacks which feels good

[wind spruce]

The thing that really needs testing is scriers warp charges

[rigid sky]

I wonder if that works better with less finessey weapons

[wind spruce]

Columnus works great with it

Couldn't feel a significant difference from DD

(Damage wise)

[potent echo]

SAP

[upper sun]

25 stacks is kinda tough now imo

assail weakspot does make it a bit easier but unironically DD stacks are what marksman's focus should have been

[marble crater]

Marksman's Focus... a keystone that's centered about not moving a lot really doesn't feel great

[upper sun]

eh not just that

[rigid sky]

It's more about timing your movement

And autogunning heads

[upper sun]

why is the weakspot reward better on a psyker than a vet

[potent echo]

They double the duration and apparently it feels great now, haven't tried personally

[rigid sky]

Camouflage made it more usable

[upper sun]

fr you dont need to aim just get lucky with a couple of weakspot hits

[rigid sky]

I thought it was good already tbh

[potent echo]

DD also gives flat damage buff

The funny thing is marksman keystone works better for spammy guns

[rigid sky]

Spammy but accurate guns. It worked really well with the equally unpopular E Stance

[potent echo]

Maybe ill run it with agripinna shotty again

[marble crater]

What weapon would work well with marksman? Headhunter?

[upper sun]

caig

[potent echo]

Nah, HH doesn't see a real difference

[rigid sky]

CIAG is incredible with it

[potent echo]

Ciag mainly

[upper sun]

tbh it works with everything

[potent echo]

With high marksman stacks you just destroy mutants

[rigid sky]

You mow down shooters, specials and elites like nobody's business

[upper sun]

if you do tag+stamina regen and deadshot its nice

[rigid sky]

Psyker CIAG imo is worse on trash shooters but better on bosses

[marble crater]

I did use my columnus yesterday and thought I was being a heretic for doing that, guess I will do the penance with that then, thanks

[potent echo]

Yea psyker ciag plus SG is boss melting

[supple dock]

OKAY BOYS

Wish me luck. I'm grinding for a near/perfect Illisi

nothing less than a rating of 375

[rigid sky]

Male loner voice lines with scrier's gaze

You are welcome.

[potent echo]

Gooning?

[cosmic sigil]

Revolver too.

It doesn't need it but well it sure os a lot of stuff without waiting too much on surgical stacks

And bullet magnetism helps too

[marble crater]

Male Loner is the German one?

[vestal fulcrum]

Correct, they do have a Germanic accent indeed

[supple dock]

ANNND bricked

[marble crater]

Maybe I will get to it eventually, being German myself it was an instant skip when I made my psyker

[supple dock]

ANNNND second bricked

Okay there's all my attempts

[vestal fulcrum]

Executor is fine. Unyielding is OK.

[potent echo]

Executor unyielding isn't the worst

[supple dock]

Hmmm

[vestal fulcrum]

Not really bricked, it just missed your expectations

[supple dock]

fair enough

I might be able to make it work

[sudden fern]

Has anybody noticed that psykers Disrupt destiny keystone modifiers are bugged rn? If you die and are rescued all modifers for the keystone are disabled as if you never invested points into it, the base keystone is still in effect tho.

[potent echo]

Since you rolled unyielding you COULD give it uncanny

Cursed boss focused illisi

[worthy tendon]

Average psyker:

[supple dock]

lmao pls no

Looks fine right?

[potent echo]

Idk if flak good, I guess for bucketheads

[rigid sky]

Yeah, I don't know how much I would want to use marksmans focus on a weapon that doesn't really favour shooting at shooters I guess

[supple dock]

bucketheads and being able to 1shot gunners without charging

[static needle]

Not really but its still not good if youre going for boss dmg. Just using a staff or Gun would probably bring significantly better dps than Illisi ever will. @supple dock

[supple dock]

yeah, I use staff on bosses

[static needle]

But yeah deflector is nice

[potent echo]

It's hadron, don't look at me

[static needle]

And flak is definitely nice too

[supple dock]

My other sword had like 69% finesse

[static needle]

But unyielding really is ehhh for illisi

[marble crater]

Nice

[supple dock]

which is why I wanted to swap it cause that's damage

[supple dock]

yeaaaaah. not my favorite

[static needle]

Executor is kinda sad too

[supple dock]

want slaughterer but eh

[static needle]

It would be a competitor with slaughterer if it didnt loose all stacks on weak spot miss

[potent echo]

With illisi you could game with activated light spam on boss heads, just don't miss

[rigid sky]

Staves seem kinda bad for bosses besides purgatus

[supple dock]

surge staff works just fine

[wind spruce]

Its just a visual bug apparently

[rigid sky]

Unless you're spamming LMB at a weakspot I guess

[potent echo]

Surge is fine*

No do not ever lmb on bosses

[supple dock]

I usually end up with second most or third most damage

sometimes first if the team is really lacking

[static needle]

Just use knife or DS lmao unyielding damage is not very good for illisi anyway. I guess the finesse value is pretty good tho tbf

[rigid sky]

Huh, ok

Maybe I need unyielding on mine or something

[supple dock]

yeah the high base stats are why I want this

[rigid sky]

I managed to wreck a BoN spamming surge LMB at its wart lol

[sudden fern]

Huh, so the stacks are invisible to me?

[wind spruce]

Yeah

[sudden fern]

Thanks!

[static needle]

Functionally, surge is just a worse voidstrike

Cause you can accomplish the same thing and way more dmg with voidstrike

[potent echo]

Oversimplification but eh sure

[static needle]

Yea true

But point kinda does still stand

[supple dock]

surge comes with more utility overall, being able to hold back a sudden rager or bulwark swarm

[rigid sky]

Surge is lower focus

[cosmic sigil]

That's what I used

[supple dock]

and yeah, less focus used on attacking

[rigid sky]

Psyker dies when you are juggling too many balls

[potent echo]

It's also faster than void

[static needle]

Why not just use voidstrike and kill them instead of holding em off

[static needle]

Just bowling ball em dead

[potent echo]

For those reactive plays

But you could just get better at void and preempt encounters

[supple dock]

If you turn a corner and there's a pack of ragers (recently happened to me) surge is gonna save you

[static needle]

So is void

Just line em up 🎳

[supple dock]

right

[static needle]

And Dodge back a couple times

[potent echo]

Unless it's flak ragers

[rigid sky]

Void saves you too

[static needle]

? Just charge full and run flak perk

[potent echo]

They just suck up one entire ball

[static needle]

Should hit BP right??

[potent echo]

Yea they die but doesn't pierce like maniac ragers

[static needle]

Dafuk okay

Well

[rigid sky]

They still stagger

[static needle]

Run surge blessing

[rigid sky]

And then you can blast them again

[potent echo]

Maniac ragers is real bowling ball

Surge you kill two

But they nerfed ragers anyway

[static needle]

[potent echo]

It's literally "just dodge lul" now

[static needle]

Yea so ragers can also just be killed in melee if youre skilled enough

[potent echo]

They made their combo actually DODGEABLE now

[rigid sky]

Multirager used to suuuuuck

[potent echo]

It used to be flagged as undodgable btw

So you could only outspace it, but not iframe it

Now you can just spam side dodge vs ragers aylmao

[wind spruce]

Idk they seem to die just as easy to me

Void just mulches them

[supple dock]

Mm. Will keep an eye out for a good void staff

[potent echo]

Yea they die but maniac ragers die more

[wind spruce]

I spose, feels about the same but I run flak/cara

[upper sun]

brain = standby
perks = flak maniac

love this game

[cosmic sigil]

Didn't play since last patch. Is it really better?

[upper sun]

yes

game feels better by a lot

[potent echo]

Yea they also reduced the stun

[upper sun]

the gameplay wall aka bulwarks is now fun to play against

[potent echo]

As a zealot you can actually fight ragers with melee now

[upper sun]

ragers no longer bs

[potent echo]

Not just cry and take out gun

[static needle]

Random off-beat subject change: duelling sword 4 needs sizeable heavy dmg Nerf, also uncanny strike needs major Nerf or rework or something, its just too easy to proc big armor dmg with it

[potent echo]

Definitely

[static needle]

Also deimos is busted

The damage is unhealthy

[potent echo]

Rending is not working too well right now

Like weapons with rending kill flak harder than unarmored

Having rending cap at 1.0 ADM would be fair

[cosmic sigil]

As a claw user... 😄

[potent echo]

Trauma user

[cosmic sigil]

But it was a pain with a caxe...

[potent echo]

Smite user 🤩

[cosmic sigil]

Well ranged was the de facto answer whenever a rager spawned

[potent echo]

1 on 1 is still fine

[supple dock]

yeah i often told people "The trick to fighting ragers in melee? ....don't."

[potent echo]

When it reaches 4 on 1 then nah

[smoky wigeon]

I just trauma them then deimos

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-i'd-win-gif-7220010602787901432

[smoky wigeon]

I swear to God they changed something with crushers

I'm able to dodge their attack way better now or something idfk

[potent echo]

You got better at the game

[smoky wigeon]

Bro I swear I leveled up skill wise on my psyker lol

[marble crater]

You really want that penance

[smoky wigeon]

Also the DD change is good.

But do y'all take the 25 or the 10 second choice for DD?

[potent echo]

I was excited for 25, but lingering was more consistent

[smoky wigeon]

Exactly how I felt

[potent echo]

I feel sad when my 25 stacks start dropping and I start to do more poor plays by chasing the targets instead of playing normally

[smoky wigeon]

Yup

That was exactly my experience as well

With 15 I'm able to just throw some assail and maintain 15 easily

[marble crater]

So I shouldn't chase the blue man and just play, treat it like a bonus? Kinda like Martyrdom

[smoky wigeon]

Able to 1 shot or 2 shot ...almost anything

@marble crater I'm no expert but from my experience I can use assail to get a few stacks then generally it'll maintain with me just playing

[potent echo]

Assail one shot bruisers with DD feels great

[smoky wigeon]

Yassss

Feels so good

I can't figure out the sweet spot for that tho lol

[marble crater]

I really need to try it later today

[smoky wigeon]

Idk what buffs I have on when it occurs

Probably need 15 stacks

[potent echo]

I also have the other scuffed talents like the one that buffs warp damage on normal kill

[smoky wigeon]

I'm curious if I can get the same affect if I go like...the other 2 cap stones tho

@potent echo I can't recall if I have that

[potent echo]

EP yes, your assail will then pierce up to 6 targets

[smoky wigeon]

I have rending too which I assume affects my assail

[potent echo]

But you need EP to be active

[potent echo]

Nah, removed last patch

[smoky wigeon]

WHAT

[potent echo]

Also doesn't inherit perks anymore

[smoky wigeon]

WHAT

That's crazy cause my assail feels..FEELS fine

I didn't even notice

[potent echo]

DD good

[smoky wigeon]

But yeah maybe my DD being way more consistent helps

[potent echo]

Or they buffed assail and didn't say it

[smoky wigeon]

My boss damage still sucks ass

But I shred absolutely everything else

Usually a zealot or veteran kill the big boy monsties

[potent echo]

I bring a Deimos for boss damage, but I usually do add killing during bosses anyway

Since people usually tunnel vision the boss

[patent steeple]

if I play Columnus Gunker, I am capable of dealing decent boss damage with Gaze...

[smoky wigeon]

@potent echo warp attack weak spot? I rock a demios too

[potent echo]

Yea it's respectable damage

[smoky wigeon]

Hm. I must just stink cause

I guess I'm comparing it to zealot or veteran who seem to shred them

[potent echo]

You want uncanny blessing

[supple dock]

deimos is nutty

[smoky wigeon]

What's that so I forget...and I think I have that

[potent echo]

You won't shred, just be decent

[upper sun]

l1h2 on deimos is crazy single target damage

legit unreal

[potent echo]

Although Deimos wrecks scab captain lol

[rigid sky]

Bit more than decent lmao

[smoky wigeon]

@upper sun that's my bread and butter dude

[rigid sky]

It's nearly gun lugger level

[patent steeple]

yeah, I meant decently high (as in less than vet or zealot tier, but still good)

[smoky wigeon]

My demios fucks up everything

[upper sun]

also one of the most bullshit op staggers in the game

[smoky wigeon]

If there's.mlre than 1 crusher I just trauma CV then bye bye h2

[wind spruce]

Legitimately the biggest reason to take lingering

[smoky wigeon]

Or do the block push h2

[supple dock]

oh sick, with executor I can 2shot mutants with the illisi

without charging

[upper sun]

executor loses stacks on non weakspot hits

but its ok as far as blessings go its not exorcist or blazing

[supple dock]

It doesn't wtf

[rigid sky]

I always was pretty good at splitting between blue bois and real targets

[supple dock]

I'm in psykanium rn

5 stacks even with a body shot

cause thats what i thought too

OH

Wrong sword

OKAY THAT MAKES SENSE

[marble crater]

[supple sedge]

If sparkheads need help ask Ulgo.

Can help later

[patent steeple]

btw, I have found regular BB (as in, Brain Ruptrue without EP) to be good at sniping DD targets, and when paired with soulblaze Shriek and Kinetic Resonance, it helps quite a bit with getting more DD stacks via headshots when not in melee range...

[rigid sky]

It works better for you than Assail?

I like Assail because it's kinda auto-stacking

[wind spruce]

Seems inefficient

[rigid sky]

I can sometimes get 2 weakspot blu bois with one funni blu noif

[patent steeple]

I want to also get CDR from Elite/Special kills and Wildfire, so BB will have to do...

[rigid sky]

6 stacks in an instant

[marble crater]

Don't we all

[rigid sky]

Yeah fair enough, PsyAura is strong as fuck

It's not enough to turn me off Assail though

[upper sun]

bruh height is changable for free

hell yeah

[rigid sky]

(When assail is productive anyway)

[marble crater]

Time for mini psyker?

[upper sun]

time for

average height psyker

[supple dock]

i am manlet psyker

[patent steeple]

btw, what do you guys think of my psyker's name?

[upper sun]

surge only psyker rite?

[patent steeple]

nope! I just thought the name sounded funny...

[wind spruce]

stabstabstab
https://outplayed.tv/media/WLBRO1

[rigid sky]

Tall psyker best psyker

Gotta be able to get those easy brain ruptures

[upper sun]

average height psyker for easy melee weakspots

[wind spruce]

A lot of melee weapons benefit from you looking above enemy heads

[marble crater]

Can we make names with a space between words? I don't remember

So me having a really tiny zealot is not ideal then...

[rigid sky]

Just take a zarona

[marble crater]

I do, was more thinking because of melee

[upper sun]

for me nah

im too used to melee on psyker

with vet i feel like a dwarf

with zealot i feel like a giant and i overshoot attacks

[marble crater]

So all average height then

[compact cargo]

Smaller sparkhead better

can just duck to avoid dogs

[marsh badger]

Anyone else feel like bubble isn't lasting as long since patch?

like there might be a damage limit now

[vestal fulcrum]

It always had a hidden health pool

If it’s under constant fire, it will eventually expire sooner than it normally would

[static needle]

lmfao

[rigid sky]

Always has been, but with a minimum duration too

[hushed egret]

I like min height so I blind my allies less with fire and can cleave over crowds with melee and voidstrike more easily

just made a tall psyker for more bb stuff though

[marble crater]

Zealot speed running Aegis Station and doing the end event while you have to actually fight through 3/4 of the map is some real fun

[marsh badger]

Seemed like under heavy fire in the auric maelstrom I just did it lasted about 3s

[rigid sky]

I like to use bubble with brain rupture, Kinetic Resonance, enhanced psionics to be able to defend the bubble from gunners better

[marsh badger]

I like bubble with my assail EP builds but tend to run stun wall with BR for the extra charges

and its fun with the wave of muties modifier

[hushed egret]

it always has man

[upper sun]

peak

[marsh badger]

yeah just felt shorter duration wise than before but couldve been the circumstances

[static needle]

yeah unironically good for running gunpsyker without scriers

[upper sun]

OK

the riser puzzle is too big brained for me

[modern tusk]

What in God's name

One charge and you're periling

[wind spruce]

Minimum height isn't good for voidstrike

[hushed egret]

wdym yes it is. you're eye level with everything

which means you can cleave an entire hallway by yourself

maybe an extra inch or 2 up would be ideal, but short is good regardless

[wind spruce]

No, you aren't, you have to point upwards for a bunch of targets, if you shoot horizontally on max height psyker you hit even the shortest enemies in the head

[upper sun]

yeah average is best imo

max is also good for throwing rods

[hushed egret]

you oniy have to point upwards for carapace weakspots your shots dont pierce through anyways

everything elses head is pretty eye level

even muties

it is big enough you could be taller and perhaps cleave over more aiming above their heads, but also it does enough damage that hitting torso is good enougj for most target anyways

[static needle]

which is good

cause of warp rider

especially good for gunpsyker

[topaz steppe]

What’s the standard talent tree for gun psyker

[wind spruce]

That would be nice except its incorrect

[upper sun]

DD/gaze whatever stuff applies for not only warp damage

[wind spruce]

^this

[upper sun]

ye

actually wait

perfect timing?

[fluid dawn]

They’re speced assail so yeah

[wind spruce]

You could put that elsewhere if you wanted

It's 28th-30th point

[upper sun]

idk assail has a low crit rate

ye id rather have toughness on peril gain/quell on gunker

[fluid dawn]

Like the smite version of the spec due to smite being more useful still never use either of them maybe assail is better though now

[upper sun]

smite upgrade is not at all useful

[wind spruce]

Not remotely

Crazy wrong

[upper sun]

dont say that here or else youll wake up atlas

[wind spruce]

True aim.

[upper sun]

🤔 are you sure thats not the gaze boosting it

ah ye

ok its a solid maybe for me

[wind spruce]

Assail gets like 40% crit from true aim

Atleast

Yikes I just tested min height voidstrike

It's so bad

You have to aim above the heads of things to guarantee voidstrike headshots

Max height is objectively the best

[fluid dawn]

What I like after the patch atm note haven’t tried assail yet and have been meaning to

[wind spruce]

Why do you have soulstealer

Otherwise good

[rigid sky]

Imo drop the node under warp rider and consider dropping warp speed; take the peril-goes-up-gives-toughness thingy and maaaaaybe the other assail node

[fluid dawn]

Lmao misclick yeah 1 extra point

[rigid sky]

But that's minor tweaking, otherwise perfect imo.

[wind spruce]

Yeah I go back and forth on warp speed and quick shards

[fluid dawn]

anticipation instead of soul stealer

[wind spruce]

I'd rather have 15 toughness than warp expenditure though

[rigid sky]

The centre point in DD isn't great

[rigid sky]

Fair enough, I think your constellation is valid too fwiw

[wind spruce]

^ah yeah drop purloin providence for sure

Garbage node

[rigid sky]

Just giving some alternatives for consideration

[cinder moon]

smite is the objectively superior blitz for scrier's gunker

[rigid sky]

Perfect timing is really good but I think it's for builds that use more warp damage

[fluid dawn]

Really even I guess it’s only good if it procs during scrier’s

[wind spruce]

Think about it as an average of 3% peril reduction per blue man kill

[rigid sky]

It's just low impact for a precious talent point

If I had like 35 points maybe it'd go on the list

[fluid dawn]

Yeah when you put it like that it’s awful

[topaz steppe]

I’m quickly approaching lvl30 (prob by eod) and was wondering if anyone would be down to help teach a newb about life post lvl30 and how to beat setup for end game.

[wind spruce]

decide to try mk 7 taxe, instantly godroll

[thorn cedar]

you cant really put it down to an average like that tbh

just like battle meditation isnt really 1% quell per kill

[cosmic sigil]

God damn

[thorn cedar]

its more just a sudden burst you can take advantage of

[wind spruce]

for staffs, maybe, not for scriers

[thorn cedar]

like for me the benefit is that i dont have to hit R to throw out another shard

or it buys me a couple extra seconds of gaze

[rigid sky]

Which weapon do you like? All staffs are fabulous, as are a few of the guns

[thorn cedar]

but its totally unreliable

[cosmic sigil]

Learn to dodge and block when it's appropriate