Perfect timing is damage.
#psyker-class
supple dock
fair, fair
they can't hurt you if they're dead etc etc
but yeah I mostly use bb for when I hear an elite/specialist around a corner and precharge it
and snipers
that's about it
i know a lot of people really hate bb because it feels clunky to them but I kinda enjoy that
cinder moon
yeah they're all supposed to be a play on words. able/abel, holy/holly, martial/marshal, fight/fite
marble crater
I use BB to kill specials while the elevator or airlock doors close
cinder moon
just not sold on marshal or fite
supple dock
<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090> I use BB to kill specials while the elevator or ...
man i've seen some BB users that make some of the weirdest decisions
like, a pox walker does NOT require all that
and I don't take warp battery because tbh I can't even reach 6 stacks before using my shriek again lmao
marble crater
just not sold on marshal or fite
Harken Knite 
jovial juniper
i know a lot of people really hate bb because it feels clunky to them but I kind...
I have a dedicated build for BB, give me a blue stimm and I will not stop
supple dock
TRUE
It gets WILD
lmao
concentration stim with kinetic resonance also goes dummy hard
cinder moon
Harken Knite <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
i wanted them all to also be a play on "something (k)night" as a phrase, so marshal sort of works; fite isn't really a name, but it's an ogryn soooo
cinder moon
calling myself king in 40k sounds perilously heretical
marble crater
It's fine for the Psyker, no?
cinder moon
i'm happy with holly
marble crater
We are already somewhat heretical anyway
supple dock
spell it cing
cinder moon
hollow jolt
Brb sending only bombers your way next mission
fallen edge
The pins are a bit old, and searching is not helping me much. So, may I ask a question?
What is a good specc here? To aim for that is, I am still not 30 but it is great to plan ahead. Is BR really the king of all? I find Assail "fun" but unless team knows how to deal with bosses, I am relatively naked :p
rich spindle
Every power is usable and good basically
jovial juniper
But BR is not the king
upper sun
The pins are a bit old, and searching is not helping me much. So, may I ask a qu...
are you asking about blitz abilities? because they all have different roles kinda
karmic finch
assail is decent vs everything on less than carapace armour, and can help gun psyker manage ammo if you weave it in. If you really really hate brain burst it can be used on other builds as an anti sniper tool. Also not bad with surge staff as a way to clear up packs easy, though I generally do that with the shout.
Brain burst is bad, people here say it's good, I swear my siblings are in a shared collective delusion. If you play purgatus enjoy relying on this as your only anti sniper (or just use assail)
smite is both really good and really bad, it's really good as a last resort panic tool, to boop back bursters from a safe distance, and against the dog pack modifier. unless you are doing one of those things, it's garbage. Only take it if you have a long range tool also, as if you take this and purgatus you just suffer.
rigid sky
The pins are a bit old, and searching is not helping me much. So, may I ask a qu...
There's lots of different options really, you just have to pick something that works with the ranged weapon you're working with
fading galleon
The pins are a bit old, and searching is not helping me much. So, may I ask a qu...
I think the Atheneum is still up to date, game hasn't changed much over the past half year
rigid sky
I wouldn't take disrupt destiny unless you have a ranged that has good headshots and crits
(i.e. guns or voidstrike)
and I don't like taking warp siphon unless I take venting shriek too
and then there's a bunch of "must-haves" like warp rider, creeping flames (if you go shriek), psychinetic aura (if you don't take assail), etc
karmic finch
and then there's a bunch of "must-haves" like warp rider, creeping flames (if yo...
don't bother with creeping flames
rigid sky
don't bother with creeping flames
Are you actually kidding? The gigantic cone free 6 stacks of soulblaze that kills all trash guaranteed and is arguably the strongest thing psyker has?
karmic finch
Are you actually kidding? The gigantic cone free 6 stacks of soulblaze that kill...
wait. i'm an idiot
thought that was the fire spread one
rigid sky
Wildfire is the shit one
rigid sky
(which is actually ok with blaze trauma, but very much a luxury node)
karmic finch
I forget names and just use descriptions myself
rigid sky
and there's perilous combustion (which is kinda good)
karmic finch
ya the fire shout is amazing
rigid sky
Typically soulstealer and quietitude are seen as must haves
mettle and perfect timing as well, can't think of any builds that don't use them really
every psyker wants to crit a lot
karmic finch
I swear I have out burned a purge staff user before with just the shout
rigid sky
You could be taking credit for some of their burn too
karmic finch
You could be taking credit for some of their burn too
nah they were bad and died a lot XD
rigid sky
the scoreboard doesn't really know how to reflect combined damage on that, so it just gives it all to one person per target
I mean that also doesn't help
karmic finch
i consistently get 150k+ damage from warpfire when playing the harder difficulties though
jovial juniper
Brain Burst is good btw
karmic finch
see, another sibling caught by the mind virus
tbh the worst part of brain burst is the existence of a penance that forces you to use it in it's default slow af state
upper sun
i hate penances and contracts that force you to use a skill
radiant frigate
tbh the worst part of brain burst is the existence of a penance that forces you ...
not true, you can press f to make it go fast
upper sun
i got the zealot stun one by joining games throwing in 3 grenades then leaving
karmic finch
not true, you can press f to make it go fast
nope, you need to get them at max warp charges
you would lose your warp charges
radiant frigate
nope, you need to get them at max warp charges
ah sweet, agony
jovial juniper
Nah, you're not telling me I have mind virus
karmic finch
and taking warp charges means you can't take empowered psionics
radiant frigate
anyway brain burst is good
upper sun
warp siphon needs to go on a diet
fading galleon
assail is decent vs everything on less than carapace armour, and can help gun ps...
Brain rupture is so useful, what even is this take chaining EP brainburst back to back on gunners is the shit when you're running trauma or something
rigid sky
Brain rupture with bubble, warp resonance and EP is honestly crazy
rigid sky
Brain rupture is so useful, what even is this take <:staregryn:10220850838443253...
did you try my build?
zinc phoenix
Who even calls it brain rupture that shit is brain burst
fading galleon
The game does
zinc phoenix
Game can’t 1984 me
fading galleon
did you try my build?
Uhhh not sure? Which one
zinc phoenix
I know the true truth
karmic finch
Brain rupture is so useful, what even is this take <:staregryn:10220850838443253...
you can A: blow them into giblets, B: use the left click, it's fine lol, or C: blow them into giblets
upper sun
lmao nah its clearly called brain burst who even reads tool tips
karmic finch
but ya it's actually fine I just really hate it
zinc phoenix
lmao nah its clearly called brain burst who even reads tool tips
1 8 9 4
rigid sky
I linked you an EP trauma build earlier today, was wondering if you ended up trying it :D
radiant frigate
Game can’t 1984 me
nonsense, it has always been called brain rupture, anyone who says otherwise is a heretic and a fraud :)
zinc phoenix
401984 AD
fading galleon
you can A: blow them into giblets, B: use the left click, it's fine lol, or C: b...
The left click exposes me and the game is scary. BR lets me play peekaboo at gigantic distances, it's mint
radiant frigate
fading galleon
I linked you an EP trauma build earlier today, was wondering if you ended up try...
No I played the dome build that clad linked me
With Warp Siphon I think
karmic finch
and then you accidentally use the last EP charge on a normal ranged mook and have to cry again for 3 seconds while you wait for the slow charge
though admittedly you can slow charge behind cover and peekaboo again
jovial juniper
but ya it's actually fine I just really hate it
Figured
fading galleon
But I play a trauma br/shriek/ep build that i got from kjerad and its so good
radiant frigate
and then you accidentally use the last EP charge on a normal ranged mook and hav...
not so! 7.5% chance to not be sad
rigid sky
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bc84f38-beeb-44d7-897d-62bb5e1ce665 if you want another variation then
Trauma's so flexible, you can put so many different kits around it
karmic finch
they just gotta buff the base ability and not make it rely on other build choices to be good
zinc phoenix
But I play a trauma br/shriek/ep build that i got from kjerad and its so good
I feel like shriek +WC is much better than bb + ep as a combo for trauma but I’m open to this
zinc phoenix
UHHH AKTUALLY were in 41k technically
Nah fuck that Nerd Workshop can’t 4189 me
karmic finch
I feel like shriek +WC is much better than bb + ep as a combo for trauma but I’m...
this is what I prefer
even bubble and warp charge
radiant frigate
UHHH AKTUALLY were in 41k technically
that is a lot of warhammers
fading galleon
I feel like shriek +WC is much better than bb + ep as a combo for trauma but I’m...
Kjerad's argument is that the game doesn't really require you to shriek that often
zinc phoenix
that is a lot of warhammers
🛑 🔨 ⏰
fading galleon
Especially as trauma does a lot of aoe DMG already
radiant frigate
cease, mallet moment
zinc phoenix
Kjerad's argument is that the game doesn't really require you to shriek that oft...
Uh that’s a lie 😂 shriek on cooldown
jovial juniper
I feel like shriek +WC is much better than bb + ep as a combo for trauma but I’m...
One is about setting everything on fire
The other is covering different ranges and threats
fading galleon
But EP BB gives you an entirely new tool
karmic finch
Kjerad's argument is that the game doesn't really require you to shriek that oft...
shriek on cooldown or you're a wus
fading galleon
And I vibe with it
karmic finch
never save it for when you pop
use on cooldown
burn the world
the aoe is gigantic
zinc phoenix
The advantage of EP over WC is it’s less trait suck, the disadvantage is that it makes you into a huge nerd
jovial juniper
One is about setting everything on fire
The other is covering different ranges ...
It's definitely more of a play style choice
fading galleon
One is about setting everything on fire
The other is covering different ranges ...
Yeah exactly
karmic finch
I generally run surge staff over trauma, but both work fine
surge has a stronger left click so can deal with ranged better
and the crit blessing helps the left click even more
fading galleon
I feel more flexible with EP BB because of how strong it is against gunner/reaper squads. Also good for rapidly demolishing ragers/maulers that you've tossed around
karmic finch
Left clicking with surge???
if it's in range, zap, if it's out of range, pew pew pew
jovial juniper
I definitely would not recommend surge with BB though
upper sun
whats a left click?
vestal fulcrum
Kjerad's argument is that the game doesn't really require you to shriek that oft...
Well, it's not just that, but IMO it comes down to:
- Warp Siphon screwing with peril generation, making it somewhat fluctuous (if you go that path, that is - you probably will not need the toughness regeneration part if you've invested into at least some toughness replenishment skill earlier in the tree),
- Warp Siphon charges give you damage, which you will likely want to get rid of quickly anyway, so a lot of that goes to waste on a staff that doesn't really care about its direct damage that much,
- EP is more consistent value and does not interfere in your typical Psyker things, i.e., venting timing, managing a volatile resource (not that it's a big issue), and generally investing a lot of points into an option that doesn't work super well with how Trauma operates
upper sun
is it like underhanding grenades?
fading galleon
I definitely would not recommend surge with BB though
Nah I play surge with smite lol
zinc phoenix
it is the fourth commandment t of the god emprah of man kind that thou shalt never click the left on a staff
karmic finch
Well, it's not just that, but IMO it comes down to:
1) Warp Siphon screwing with...
don't take the peril gen reduction node, it's a trap, peril is your friend
radiant frigate
shriek on cooldown or you're a wus
idk i kind of keep it for when i see a blob
vestal fulcrum
Shrieking often is nice, but you will not manage to get 6 charges in between every Shriek comes off-cooldown, unless you constantly kill elites and/or are extremely lucky with supporting node procs (charge on coherency kill/charge on blazing enemy kill)
zinc phoenix
Nah I play surge with smite lol
As god emprah intended
upper sun
also for the fucking love of god why are left click grenades/rocks on release and right click grenades require left click
zinc phoenix
Full zap or you’re a heretic
radiant frigate
what if no zap
vestal fulcrum
don't take the peril gen reduction node, it's a trap, peril is your friend
But they are along the typical skill build I take, how do I eat the red pill 
karmic finch
the toughness one is also really good, and more peril = more toughness, so you doubly get more toughness from that node compared to the other build
karmic finch
*But they are along the typical skill build I take, how do I eat the red pill* <...
i'm talking about the one in the WC tree
manic river
@vestal fulcrum it's time for me to learn the last class
vestal fulcrum
i'm talking about the one in the WC tree
That is certainly an option, but I'd rather have stronger BRs still
manic river
zinc phoenix
don't take the peril gen reduction node, it's a trap, peril is your friend
Blessed take more peril more good
I wish perils explosion summoned a bloodletter
vestal fulcrum
I do not care heavily for WS bar the peril reduction, which is nice on certain other staves (looking at Surge, for instance), as you will be getting rid of the damage boosts constantly (ergo volatility)
zinc phoenix
And high peril made the walls run with blood
karmic finch
I do not care heavily for WS bar the peril reduction, which is nice on certain o...
again, just take the peril
zinc phoenix
Whole team should be freakin out
radiant frigate
seek stability, sibling, before it is too late
vestal fulcrum
But I already have a good staff smh
karmic finch
it's more toughness
vestal fulcrum
I want STRONGER BRAIN CRACKS
karmic finch
you get toughness from quelling peril, and generating it if you have the point free, so more peril is more better, and the other option is a toughness regen node every time you get a warp charge, which with the 4% one is pretty consistent (and on each elite kill, which surge is ace at)
fading galleon
if you manage your EP stacks well, BB acts like a bit like surge with infinite range, and you can also have trauma with it
win/win
zinc phoenix
Wish there was a line for boosting the perils explosion
And making warp shit more terrifying
karmic finch
psyker pop should be like the ogryn frag
vestal fulcrum
you get toughness from quelling peril, and generating it if you have the point f...
Well, that's fine, I respect that, but I'm not willing to go WS on that Trauma build still
You can't really change my mind on that
karmic finch
3 wound curio psyker viable when
vestal fulcrum
Gain power the more wounds you have
I feel like Ogryn should have something related to wounds
karmic finch
just imagining tactical nuking yourself in every pack
you get 6 between every health station
zinc phoenix
Game has leaned too far into nerdy competitive stuff and not hard enough into grimderp
vestal fulcrum
Like FNP upgrade that would allow you to break out of trapper's net/dog pounce, by consuming one or multiple of your wounds
vestal fulcrum
<@286877952463863808> it's time for me to learn the last class
Good. It's the funnest of them all (as in, probably the most difficult to stay alive with)
zinc phoenix
Wound psyker with big warp booms, faster peril gen and more power for comedy value needed
fading galleon
I feel like Ogryn should have something related to wounds
no I don't want ogryns to get baited into running wounds curios
vestal fulcrum
Understandable
But it would be nice to have more resource-based skills
Give up X to get Y in return
radiant frigate
is psyker the last class
manic river
Good. It's the funnest of them all (as in, probably the most difficult to stay a...
Cool
vestal fulcrum
They are the last Tertium bender
manic river
where do I start
radiant frigate
Wound psyker with big warp booms, faster peril gen and more power for comedy val...
unsanctioned psyker
vestal fulcrum
where do I start
head go pop.
Give each staff a try after you reach level 30.
karmic finch
where do I start
with a gun, the staves scale well with every stat so they are like uber garbage while levelling
radiant frigate
i think i did ogryn last
fading galleon
Psyker Unbound
radiant frigate
but idk
karmic finch
try them out at like level 20
manic river
*head go pop.*
Give each staff a try after you reach level 30.
Well I just created my Psyker
vestal fulcrum
Some staves are terrible before they have good modifier scores
manic river
Let me reach LV30 then I'll return to you
fading galleon
with a gun, the staves scale well with every stat so they are like uber garbage ...
purgatus was useful while levelling idk
karmic finch
if you want to play spicy just run assail to get used to peril gen
manic river
good, now enter auric maelstrom
It's a lv1
marble crater
Trauma while leveling 
radiant frigate
It's a lv1
i said what i said
fading galleon
yeah trauma was terrible LOL
karmic finch
purgatus was useful while levelling idk
ya, that's not bad in the lower difficulties, but then you'll be playing purgatus...
manic river
I didn't even play her yet let me try her
marble crater
ya, that's not bad in the lower difficulties, but then you'll be playing purgatu...
No Purgatus slander
radiant frigate
early psyker levels are kinda agonizing
karmic finch
just a good ol mk1a infantry las
fading galleon
I mean. aren't you
karmic finch
oh and duelling swords are lit, mark IV is the best but they are all decent
radiant frigate
me? gods no
fading galleon
I still hide behind my teammates lol
manic river
which personality did you pick?
The the noisy and funny one
radiant frigate
my teammates usually hide behind me
manic river
I called her Kolibri if that helps
karmic finch
trauma staff is a melee weapon
marble crater
I hide inside the Ogryns
fading galleon
The the noisy and funny one
that covers two out of them
karmic finch
with trauma you can have crushers on top of you and be fine
vestal fulcrum
The the noisy and funny one
That's... probably Loner?
fading galleon
but I'm going to assume you picked seer
manic river
Yes that one
fading galleon
in which case BASED
radiant frigate
loner :)
fading galleon
loner 😠
radiant frigate
very epic
manic river
and cute
radiant frigate
i love loner
marble crater
Naturally
vestal fulcrum
Not dead yet? Lucky me :)
radiant frigate
hah, of course!
karmic finch
I'VE KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE, I'M SO GLAD NONE OF THIS IS REAL
fading galleon
I'VE KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE, I'M SO GLAD NONE OF THIS IS REAL
yesss. female seer is my jam
zinc phoenix
unsanctioned psyker
BY EMPRAH YES
radiant frigate
"for the emperor"... i'm sure..
fading galleon
unhinged old lady
zinc phoenix
I like French babe
manic river
"quell peril"?
fading galleon
plasma heat but for psyker stuff
radiant frigate
french psyker has a very pleasant voice
manic river
Hmmmmmmmm
karmic finch
what's peril
peril is your beloved talking to you
marble crater
what's peril
The time until you explode
manic river
Head go boom?
radiant frigate
plasma heat is not even a real mechanic since it autovents if you try to keep shooting at 100%
fading galleon
well.
marble crater
Purgatus is great for learning peril, imo. Very slow build up and difficult to explode
manic river
Eh is there guides and builds for psyker in this channel?
radiant frigate
people do that?
karmic finch
Purgatus is great for learning peril, imo. Very slow build up and difficult to e...
that sounds terrible
manic river
not if you try to fire a charged shot
So it's the same as the Plasma Gun
fading galleon
people do that?
I like to live deliciously so yes
marble crater
that sounds terrible
That's how I learned, so it can't be that bad
fading galleon
why
manic river
Someone boost me to LV30
fading galleon
just play uprising
karmic finch
but the purgatus is the best one by far if you want to use a staff early, the scaling on burn makes it do a lot more damage than the other staves
manic river
just play uprising
Wait which one was H2
vestal fulcrum
Eh is there guides and builds for psyker in this channel?
Pygex has written a rather complex guide on Psyker-related things, you can find it in the pinned
marble crater
Eh is there guides and builds for psyker in this channel?
In early game pick Assail, use it as your main weapon and level
vestal fulcrum
It's like the 3rd message from the top IIRC
fading galleon
sedition -> uprising -> malice -> heresy -> damnation -> [REDACTED]
radiant frigate
trust no psyker guide
manic river
Ah that
radiant frigate
trust only the voices in your head
manic river
uprising
manic river
brb, gotta try this class
karmic finch
oh and a cool trick, slide, then vent
also, slide, then start the secondary charge
jovial juniper
trust only the voices in your head
Is this voices in the head in the immaterium with us rn
manic river
The input when I try to slide is weird
It's like it does not want to slide while I'm sprinting
marble crater
Psyker is slow af
karmic finch
don't trust the voices in Kat's head, they say that brain rupture is good
jovial juniper
Psyker is slow af
You're either a snail or faster than light
thorn cedar
psyker is the fastest in the game if you do have everything stacked up
its just in bursts
marble crater
Reload
manic river
Uoh I get it
marble crater
Note that you can't quell with guns(duh) or melee weapons that are not force swords
manic river
Huh what's this thing to pop heads it's weird
fading galleon
yeah you can only quell while you have something in your hands that can also generate peril
so your blitz or force weapons
marble crater
Brain Burst my beloved
jovial juniper
Remember, manually quelling is faster than waiting
And more reliable than those 10-15% chance of auto quell
karmic finch
At the moment you have the bad brain burst, it gets some nodes to make it go faster later on
jovial juniper
Everything that isn't walker, groaner, bruiser, stalker
karmic finch
At the moment consider it a way to deal with annoying gunners or snipers
jovial juniper
You can pre charge to kill trappers and dogs the moment you set your eyes on them
tired estuary
And can charge it on a nerd b4 ducking behind cover
manic river
I don't understand
karmic finch
Once you have someone targeted you don't need line of sight any more
karmic finch
So you can start charging on a sniper and then duck behind cover
karmic finch
Oh ya, that's why I say it's bad
tired estuary
It also basically ignores armor
manic river
Wait does brain burst affect the headshot penances
karmic finch
It's slow, clunky, needs other build choices to be halfway decent, and then only does one job (fine, 2, but I'm only counting monster damage because I'm nice)
marble crater
Wait does brain burst affect the headshot penances
The 20 headshots in a row? Yes
karmic finch
The 20 headshots in a row? Yes
Oh ya I did that, it has 3 uses
jovial juniper
You can dodge/slide while charging
karmic finch
If it didn't require a capstone node to feel OK I would be more lenient to it
But the current form is garbage
The opportunity cost to run it is basically the node and a capstone
No other blitz choice feels like that
karmic finch
It's the strongest blitz with that node
That's because the capstone is also garbage on assail and smite
jovial juniper
Exactly
karmic finch
Taking a blitz from F tier to A tier, with a capstone investment, isn't a good deal
jovial juniper
A? S++!
karmic finch
Meanwhile vet, zealot and ogryn have all their grenades at A and B tier (other than smoke, we love you, but you're a D tier)
And don't need a capstone for that
tired estuary
oh yeah we all know how meta ogryn box is rn
fading galleon
lol yeah ogryn box is deeply mid
tired estuary
zealot knives are also really sus on most builds people put them on (Not saying they're bad but the others can save games)
jovial juniper
Meanwhile vet, zealot and ogryn have all their grenades at A and B tier (other t...
Yeah, but then the psyker has infinite blitz
flat nexus
Meanwhile vet, zealot and ogryn have all their grenades at A and B tier (other t...
smoke aint that bad you can mind control gunners if everyone is in the smoke
jovial juniper
Not good comparison
karmic finch
smoke aint that bad you can mind control gunners if everyone is in the smoke <:K...
And you have identified it's 1 use.
Also the opportunity cost of never having monsters in your game (krak) or 4 charges of more damage than you think in a wide area with knock back
Hey, it's not F tier like BR without EP
tired estuary
idk smoke has an actual niche, boxes has being outclassed + irrelevant in exchange for being able to uhhh, pick both a really good melee dmg talent that you get with Frag and an impact talent that ogryns don't need
jovial juniper
Once again, psyker has infinite blitz, not an impressive comparison, fair? Not sure
karmic finch
Once again, psyker has infinite blitz, not an impressive comparison, fair? Not s...
Infinite smite is troll.
Infinite assail is just a ranged weapon (legit not bad)
Infinite brain burst is F tier if you don't have EP charges. So even with the node, A tier.
jovial juniper
Infinite smite is not troll
karmic finch
Like you take 3 seconds what a vet can do in one click, and it doesn't cost them ammo, because aura
manic river
Someone boost me to LV30 pls I don't want to suffer
tired estuary
maybe also not fair to compare to the most bloated aura in the game
manic river
karmic finch
I'm giving it A tier, that's already pretty good, but again, that's if you sacrifice a capstone
tired estuary
Someone boost me to LV30 pls I don't want to suffer
rush assail for levelling then flames on shout ult
manic river
rush assail for levelling then flames on shout ult
What's Assail?
karmic finch
What's Assail?
Right side blitz
remote bloom
Shards
tired estuary
those little homing weenie crystals that used to be broken on their release
manic river
Oh these ones look fun
karmic finch
those little homing weenie crystals that used to be broken on their release
Still broken in heresy and below
tired estuary
they're still really good and punch downwards really hard on lower difficulty
jovial juniper
I'm giving it A tier, that's already pretty good, but again, that's if you sacri...
No such thing as sacrificing a stone, since you benefit from all of them for different purposes
manic river
those little homing weenie crystals that used to be broken on their release
And what's the purpose of Smite
tired estuary
also EP takes way less point investment than warp charges
manic river
Looks like a low damage high stun CC
karmic finch
No such thing as sacrificing a stone, since you benefit from all of them for dif...
what do you mean, opportunity cost is a cost
tired estuary
its a low dmg high stun cc
manic river
a
tired estuary
so it can be good if used well or useless + really annoying if misused
jovial juniper
what do you mean, opportunity cost is a cost
What do you mean by opportunity?
manic river
Is there any tree builds around to see
karmic finch
What do you mean by opportunity?
if I take X i can't take Y, that's the opportunity cost of something
you have to weigh the cost (a point) and the opportunity cost (the other stuff you could get for that point)
tired estuary
Is there any tree builds around to see
psyker guide is in pins, its got sample builds
jovial juniper
Not good, Syphon suffers from that
manic river
Cool
karmic finch
Not good, Syphon suffers from that
everything suffers from that....
every point spent has an opportunity cost
also, i'm gonna let you in on a little secret here
warp siphon isn't bad even at just 2 points invested (the capstone and the toughness regen)
the damage is inconsistent and if you use it with the shout you will be burning charges all the time anyway
so using all the sub nodes is more optional than people think
jovial juniper
I'm aware, however, it's not good with Gaze, so once again, you benefit from stones for different purposes, no such thing as sacrificing
karmic finch
who would run gaze without taking disrupt destiny
my argument is that BR and EP are bad, not that warp siphon is the best choice
and more than anything
I want BR to not be so bad ON IT'S OWN
BR shouldn't need a capstone to be good
jovial juniper
Because it's good on it's own for the purpose of single target damage
Do you want it to be better, EP
If you do ask me, the worst part of it is when the target dies during your cast
tired estuary
yeah idk what else to say besides ep bb feels p good to me and sometimes I can even bb without EP stonks and it'll still kill shit like specialists lol
and if the vet wants to waste time shooting the nerd with a blue halo it doesn't really matter
its okay to just, dislike smth without that making it garbage
(I still use ogryn box sometimes, do not ask why lmao)
jovial juniper
who would run gaze without taking disrupt destiny
Also, the answer is me
I try lots of unconventional builds
karmic finch
well again
the issue is
everything should be a viable and competitive option
I don't hate these abilities for no reason, I want them to be better
gaze + warp siphon is a crystal clear example of this
it's literally non functional
tired estuary
perfect balance isn't realistically possible and not worth going for anyways
just keep shit reasonably in line (Buff power maul plz, nerf plasma lmb cleave etc)
karmic finch
perfect balance isn't realistically possible and not worth going for anyways
actually balancing the game on a regular basis so the meta changes up often
every game I've seen do that has had much more viability of odd things
willow hazel
You don't need the capstone for BB. Just Kinetic Flayer is enough for it to be a solid single target option and very good boss damage
karmic finch
mess up and make something broken? oops, just nerf it next time, it's a coop game with no money on the line in tournaments
even better are the GOAT devs that just have a public test realm and launch balance patches a week early on there
zinc phoenix
and if the vet wants to waste time shooting the nerd with a blue halo it doesn't...
It’s ok NOW it used to be the absolute worst because no warp charge for you ree
jovial juniper
everything should be a viable and competitive option
And the problem is that smite and assail performs well due to cc
tired estuary
yeah I mean old warp charge system was dogshit lmao
old duelling swords, fucking obscurus being only force sword, those were the days
karmic finch
And the problem is that smite and assail performs well due to cc
again, if base BR was better, and then the bonus from EP was less (but still good), then they would be far more in line with each other
tired estuary
hell if we're talking about bad psyker options wtf do you do to obscurus
jovial juniper
again, if base BR was better, and then the bonus from EP was less (but still goo...
Or you could actually make EP good with the others, BB is good, EP is just the cherry on top
karmic finch
or like, do both
make BR a good choice without EP, like the other two, and then make all 3 excellent with EP (like you're spending a capstone on these)
tired estuary
damn obscurus so ass it won't even get acknowledged over the BB vendetta
willow hazel
The obscurus isn't that bad, it's just overshadowed by how strong other melee options are
willow hazel
The heavy overhead is solid damage and pretty long range
If you animation it becomes a lawnmower
queen fog
unfair is our middle name, we are freaks after all 
tired estuary
it has actually nothing vs other force swords
willow hazel
It's a little more frontloaded than the demios because you can just H1 -> h1 -> h1 instead of needing l1s mixed in
and it horde clears better than the demios
willow hazel
The special canceled l1s are much better horde clear than the demios
It's not the best psyker weapon, but everyone calling it useless is being hyperbolic
tired estuary
if you mean qq/macro cancelling l1 then maybe but maybe it shouldn't need that
I've also had zero problems with hordes on deimos
willow hazel
A combat knife has zero problems with hordes. Some weapons just clear hordes faster than others
mild kayak
Every time I attack these people know before I even know what I'm going to do, I dont get the reaction time of these people
jovial juniper
make BR a good choice without EP, like the other two, and then make all 3 excell...
You know, I think we are going to be looping between BR is good/bad and won't get anywhere, so I will agree to disagree for now
tired estuary
hit da bricks
jovial juniper
Every time I attack these people know before I even know what I'm going to do, I...
Who are these people?
mild kayak
Just
Random people who play?
It's not specific people, just people in general have an amazing sense of when to attack and when to block
I swear every single time I let go of block to attack, the MILLISECOND i let go of RMB they attack
thorn cedar
the trick is to play obsessively until it permeates your dreams
then youre about 10% of the way there
karmic finch
You know, I think we are going to be looping between BR is good/bad and won't ge...
I called it A tier (with EP), I don't think it's bad, despite my hate for it I recognise the utility of it
mild kayak
Wait wrong server lmao
Was meant for Chivalry
upper sun
ded game
jovial juniper
I'd love to tell you it's bad because it's a relic from the game launch, but I can't because because it does a good job at what it is supposed to
And at the same time, this game is a horde shooter
And the other blitz have that in mind
So the others will definitely outshine it, but I cannot agree that it's bad
flat nexus
A combat knife has zero problems with hordes. Some weapons just clear hordes fas...
agreed
flat nexus
I swear every single time I let go of block to attack, the MILLISECOND i let go ...
psst
dont let go of block
instead block and hold left click until you do an attack
flat nexus
Wait wrong server lmao
Was meant for Chivalry
oh nvm
marble crater
radiant frigate
A combat knife has zero problems with hordes. Some weapons just clear hordes fas...
eh
not sure i agree
can you do it? sure
is it advisable? unlikely
flat nexus
is it advisable? unlikely
does good with mk6 heavy push attack repeat rythm
if your in the middle of the horde spam push attack and youll get out
any armour units push attack spam in the head
marble crater
Why use a knife if you can be cool and use an illisi?
radiant frigate
indeed
you have the option of a magic sword and instead you pick a dinky little knife?
radiant frigate
are conjured weapons a thing
like some kind of spirit knife or whatever
it would be hard for hadron to work on but it wouldbe cool
it also would not get past GW i reckon
upper sun
ehhhhh idk i dont remember hearing about those
maybe a demonic weapon that whispers to you but again that shit is main plot material no way were getting that
willow hazel
you have the option of a magic sword and instead you pick a dinky little knife?
gotta go fast
jovial juniper
A big pointy dagger like Sienna's
With force sword mechanics would be neat
radiant frigate
force sword and dagger when?
night bobcat
you have the option of a magic sword and instead you pick a dinky little knife?
That dinky little knife can get crits so often that one can reliably win in melee against crushers and maulers
radiant frigate
That dinky little knife can get crits so often that one can reliably win in mele...
so can force swords
so can dueling swords
night bobcat
Yeah, but what a flex it is to kill big armored ogryns with a glorified tooth pick
marble crater
Leave that to the fanatic, sibling, we are better than that
night bobcat
The voices tell me otherwise
radiant frigate
the voices tell me to slice the heretics
karmic finch
Duelling sword is the best anti armor melee, it's kinda sad when there's thunder hammers in this game
Thunder hammer needs so much love
radiant frigate
thunder hammer is also legitimately worse vs armor than evis XV
jovial juniper
the voices tell me to slice the heretics
radiant frigate
thunder hammer is in a real sad spot right now
marble crater
By the way, is "Voices in my Head" by Falling in Reverse our anthem?
radiant frigate
idk if i am part of the official psyker society, as i have never heard of it
jovial juniper
I'm not sure, those lyrics make me feel like letting the possession happen
calm sapphire
thunder hammer is in a real sad spot right now
TH is fine wdym
jovial juniper
I'm not sure, those lyrics make me feel like letting the possession happen
"We're all going to die but first things first I'm going to take the world with me"
radiant frigate
TH is fine wdym
it's clunky and it has abysmal horde damage
it overkills its niche and it does nothing outside of it
marble crater
it's clunky and it has abysmal horde damage
it overkills its niche and it does n...
Yes, but slapping a mutie running next to you is very cool, so...
marble crater
"We're all going to die but first things first I'm going to take the world with ...
Just normal psyker things
radiant frigate
Yes, but slapping a mutie running next to you is very cool, so...
chainswords can do that too
and deimos/obscurus
illisi can also oneshot them with the right setup
marble crater
They don't make the sound though 
calm sapphire
it's clunky and it has abysmal horde damage
it overkills its niche and it does n...
It's clunky for ppl who can't be bothered to chain attacks properly imo, while yes it does what it's suppose to do as in excel at doing boss damage.
radiant frigate
i feel like that only applies to the ironhelm variant
since crucis is all sweeps all day
calm sapphire
i feel like that only applies to the ironhelm variant
Yes ironhelm is the way to go as it helps a bit when dealing with a mixed horde tbh
marble crater
Crucis is pain. Want to hit that Crusher? Too bad, there was a sheet of paper in your path
radiant frigate
ironhelm greatly reduces the chance of a "get down mr. president" poxwalker hero incident
still it feels like you have to run it with a flamer
calm sapphire
still it feels like you have to run it with a flamer
nope
radiant frigate
so, just live with no horde damage then?
calm sapphire
so, just live with no horde damage then?
ironhelm can easily handle hordes wdym and if things get crazy, I can just pop an incediary grenade
jovial juniper
Just normal psyker things
It would be a good song if you're a tormented psyker
radiant frigate
there is a difference between "handle" and "kill effectively"
illisi can handle crushers but it does not exactly kill them effectively
jovial juniper
It would be a good song if you're a tormented psyker
Hell, I'd recommend Fragile Minds by Silent Theory
radiant frigate
By the way, is "Voices in my Head" by Falling in Reverse our anthem?
i just looked it up and it sounds incredibly cursed
marble crater
Not our anthem then?
radiant frigate
not mine but perhaps yours
calm sapphire
there is a difference between "handle" and "kill effectively"
what build do u run with TH
radiant frigate
currently none because i do not like it
💀
but perhaps it would be better with martyrdom
marble crater
I use momentum
calm sapphire
currently none because i do not like it
martyr TH can easily shred hordes in a timely manner if your chaining heavy uncharged or not
radiant frigate
i think that both momentum and BP are entirely overshadowed by how bonkers powerful martyrdom is
vestal fulcrum
Momentum and Martyrdom is like Venting Shriek to Scrier's Gaze
One option is just more generalist 
and the other is for masochists
calm sapphire
~~and the other is for masochists~~
for zealot speedrunners
vestal fulcrum
That I don't know, I don't see many Martyrdom knife speedrunning Zealots
radiant frigate
~~and the other is for masochists~~
martyrdom has actually made me go from "this class is godawful and doomed" to "what the actual fuck is this, why am i onetapping crushers"
vestal fulcrum
Well, yeah, but then you don't really have to be playing Martyrdom to one or two-shot Crushers
upper sun
for zealot speedrunners
had two guys today glitch the repair mission and end up at the last section in 4 minutes
vestal fulcrum
Because the player power is that obscene currently
radiant frigate
Well, yeah, but then you don't really have to be playing Martyrdom to one or two...
what else onetaps them, ogryn shovel?
calm sapphire
what else onetaps them, ogryn shovel?
vet shovel can also one tap crusher
vestal fulcrum
Thunder hammer probably can do it also. Veteran shovels also probably can oneshot a Crusher.
Ironically, Thunder hammer is generally not that good at killing anything that isn't a boss monstrosity (Plogryn, Bungle, CS, DH) 
radiant frigate
indeed
the supposedly most armor piercing melee you can think of actually does not do exceptionally well vs armor
calm sapphire
had two guys today glitch the repair mission and end up at the last section in 4...
don't u just love it when a speedrunner redirects the entire "horde" of enemies across tertium to throw at u while they sneak past them
its a new fun modifer that should be added in to the game
jk
upper sun
don't u just love it when a speedrunner redirects the entire "horde" of enemies ...
hell yeah
i ran to the last section and one of the guys was like "plz die"
i asked if they were fine to solo they said yes
like bruh i like an afk 40k as much as the next guy just say something before hand
calm sapphire
i ran to the last section and one of the guys was like "plz die"
what makes it hard to deal with such hordes is when there is a chaos spawn or even a plogryn added into it
willow hazel
I had a game monstrocity maelstrom with 3 stealth vets/zealots where they just ran then waited at the elevator while I pushed through
jovial juniper
A modifier that randomly turns a player into a target, hmmm
upper sun
I had a game monstrocity maelstrom with 3 stealth vets/zealots where they just r...
hell yeah 1v4000 enemies
karmic finch
Oh that is perfect
Warp resistance is a dump stat
And charge rate on void strike is actually super narrow
So missing 10% there is not noticeable
More peril means more toughness
Probably more like .06 I bet
Lol, even less
marble crater
More peril also means more voices, always nice to listen to them
upper sun
you can put in nexus 2/3 until you get nexus 4
upper sun
ye thats a reasonable path for void
took me a while before getting one with a free perk
karmic finch
I was stuck with the quell one due to the upgrade rolls
The good stuff is during hordes
Just never have to stop shooting
But vs single enemies it's unreliable and you have to vent still
Also if you end up in melee vs chaff just hitting center of mass or their feet is much safer and they still die.
supple dock
the quest for perfection is filled with many trials and tribulations
like 68% damage
cinder moon
crit chance perk, warp nexus
you can get so many crits that surge procs multiple times per shot
it's glorious
upper sun
crit chance perk, warp nexus
its crazy how one little +5% crit chance can make such a difference
cinder moon
wouldn't be worth taking without warp nexus imo
but piled on top, it helps
at minimum you get 10% bonus crit chance, max 25%
upper sun
my old one vs my new one
between the charge rate and the +5% crit feels so much better
you mean which of these to take?
i usually only take empathic evasion with surge/purge
shriek is nice damage
bubble is also nice
ornate hamlet
Shriek is goated
cinder moon
my old one vs my new one
when did void damage get nerfed? i was wondering why my old pic had higher damage values than yours, but double checking on live, mine's right in line with yours now
upper sun
people here dont realize this about bubble but its the best tool for getting every single pub to join up with the ream
its amazing for getting people to get in coho
mighty olive
i just like to scream and light things on fire XD
upper sun
when did void damage get nerfed? i was wondering why my old pic had higher damag...
😭 psykers cant catch a break
cinder moon
upper sun
void bad pls buff
upper sun
ITS TIME
POST MELK FINDS
😨
4 psykers?
bruh
ah nice
damn
took me about 5k plasteel for flurry 4 and nexus 4 on truama
staves werent that bad
im at 9/11 blessings for force swords tho with one gotten but not surrendered
ye
ok got decapitator 4
marble crater
POST MELK FINDS
Nothing to post 
rotund fable
Melk is trying to sell me an amazing toothpick....
vast zealot
Haven't played this in a long while, are psykers still nerfed?
upper sun
all classes are good
lethal lagoon
Haven't played this in a long while, are psykers still nerfed?
Psykers are the highest DPS class
marble crater
Somehow we are a great DPS class, yet all of our staves are bad and need a buff 
supple dock
the duality of man
supple dock
go surge or go home
vast zealot
I used to cheese the lightning staff + shards but then they reduced the damage and increased the cooldown
It was annoying and made me take a long break
supple dock
im not agreeing with you I just like surge
lethal lagoon
Not you
vast zealot
Was it a bug?
vast zealot
Yeah, psykers tend to be like that
lethal lagoon
Not really, anyone good at the game hated the bug
marble crater
yeah for some reason I filtered out the 3 lines of text
Too. Many. Voices.
vast zealot
What even was the bug? I don't keep up to date with the nitty-gritty details of patches or complaints usually
I just tested all the weapons and decided I liked the surge
lethal lagoon
randomly doing 2.25x more damage? Of course it was a bug.d
rotund fable
Haven't played this in a long while, are psykers still nerfed?
Right now, Psyker is a glass cannon... specifically a tempered glass 90mm cannon.
If you get caught lacking, you will go down in about 2 seconds, but if you can maintain good positioning you will likely be able to delete whatever threat type you decided to spec into before your teamates even realize it was present.
vast zealot
randomly doing 2.25x more damage? Of course it was a bug.d
Huh, I figured they were just crits or something. But yeah I do remember some surges in damage at times
lethal lagoon
I mean Surge/Flaming shriek is still gonna be top damage, but if you were relying on the bug, you probably aren't gonna have fun.
Psyker is still wild though
vast zealot
I wasn't reliant on it but it was pretty disappointing not being able to just run around deleting everything even on damnation
rotund fable
I have a group of ogryn meat shields with me at all times
Nice... 90% of my games are with randoms.
If i had a nickel for every time i've played with a team of 3 loner-stealth zealots who drastically overestimated their skill level... I would have 7 nickels, which isnt a lot, but it's annoying that it's happened 7 times.
lethal lagoon
*Runs ahead
*Get's Trapped
*Blames team for not saving him
*Get's Revived
*Runs ahead
*Get's Trapped
*Rage quits
"Wow, people just aren't good at this game. So bad."
marble crater
My condolences
vast zealot
i hate those types of zealots
i let them die on purpose even if it means game over just to spite them
marble crater
i let them die on purpose even if it means game over just to spite them
No wonder people don't trust us
vast zealot
rotund fable
At least when I run ahead it's because I accidentally went over my peril limit and i'm gonna kamikaze the 8 bulwakrs coming around the corner.
vast zealot
But if you don't save them, you can't watch them do more stupid things
true actually
marble crater
Peak psyker gameplay
lethal lagoon
also are you in EU region?
Nein
rotund fable
Loner-stealth zealots are either godlike or god-awful, there is no in-between.
On rare occasions you get the godlike players who blink into stealth and suddenly that firing line of gunners at the end of the bridge or the orgy of snipers camped in the corner vanishes like a demonhost being surrounded by 4 hammer-zealots... but the majority of the time it's the ones that run off looking for chests in the middle of a horde spawn and die to a trapper/dog while their team is on the other side of the map, or it's the ones who think they can 1v9 that crusher squad while their team is at the previous area trying to fend of the chaos spawn.
lethal lagoon
Also, interesting bug, True Aim doesn't work if you peril explosion.
That's the wrong video for that
Opps
Anyways, peril explosion big boom
ornate hamlet
I applaud the man holding a crusher wall from the teammates fighting the boss
gloomy valve
Wish there was a suicide bomber build
near bobcat
One of the satisfying moments of smite is locking down a bunch of crushers so the ogryn and zealot can get to work shredding them apart
Zealots with thunder hammers love you
gloomy valve
One of the satisfying moments of smite is locking down a bunch of crushers so th...
That and u can finally role play as Palpatine
upper sun
my fingers hurt just from watching that thanks
gloomy valve
So many numbers and health bars, my eyes
upper sun
no number good more number better
tribal girder
my fingers hurt just from watching that thanks
checkout the 20 min mark for maximum finger hurt
lyric burrow
as the game was intended to be played
upper sun
checkout the 20 min mark for maximum finger hurt
I think if you wanna do a guide do one on mechanics and movement theres already tons of talent/build guides
and besides that i think you can agree if someone can move well an optimal build matters less
tribal girder
idk man that means i gotta make my own format instead of using the existing platform
i will try my best
maybe i can add in some tips in the beginning like Pygex does in his videos
supple dock
one thing I don't see psykers doing is sliding then quelling to keep your speed up
tribal girder
it's habit. And also depends on situation
sometimes its better to slide with melee for better distance
and in most build quell takes like less than a second so it's less importnat
supple dock
I swap to melee, slide, swap to staff
tribal girder
which is very hard to do
tribal girder
if you rebind maybe
supple dock
I do it with vanilla aha
like it's not game breaking or anything
and the work for the reward is minimal
tribal girder
i do vanilla too. i think i quell everytime for less than half a second. I slide during charge
supple dock
but it's fun
hexed geyser
I just realised after a game that melk scammed me
potent echo
This the reacc channel now
feral knoll
Would Brain Burst be considered biomancy? I know this is more a lore question but it’s also kinda gameplay so
rich jolt
Would Brain Burst be considered biomancy? I know this is more a lore question bu...
Biomancy entails control over the body. Depending on how brain burst works it could go either way
Im not sure on the specifics
rich jolt
what do you mean SURE?!
Wether or not brainburst causes some sort of reaction in the brain to make it rupture outwards or if youre just making a big warp bomb in there head
potent echo
I'm gonna become the joker
rich jolt
Most likely the ladder given how psykers work typically
rich jolt
I'm gonna become the joker
Holy shid
potent echo
feral knoll
Does the description when you hover over it give any sort of detail? (I can’t get on the game rn)
rich jolt
Uhh ill go see rq
feral knoll
Ah
“Charge up your Psychic Power and release it to deal immense Damage to a Single Enemy. Effective against Flak & Carapace Armoured Enemies.”
So I’m assuming it’s a big psychic bomb
I think it would be cooler if it was just like
“Abrakadabra. All the blood went to your head.”
rich jolt
Oh i thought you couldn't get on dhskskxk
feral knoll
Wiki
next turret
i got a good voidstrike finally
rich jolt
i got a good voidstrike finally
Is that from that one guy from 4chan who put a hand grenade in his shitter
rich jolt
You can hold lit firecrackers in your hand and be mostly fine there aint so way it shattered that entire toilet bowl
karmic finch
There's different sizes of fire cracker
And if you close your hand around one you wouldn't have a good time (again, confined space)
rich jolt
And if you close your hand around one you wouldn't have a good time (again, conf...
My hands would not EXPLODE
karmic finch
Fire crackers go up to about the size of a shotgun shell
The tiny ones that are like half a cm diameter wouldn't be a good idea but sure.
rich jolt
Fire crackers go up to about the size of a shotgun shell
Really? Ive only ever see ones the size of half my pinkie finger
lethal lagoon
You can hold lit firecrackers in your hand and be mostly fine there aint so way ...
No?
rich jolt
No?
I meant that your hands would still be there
Ofc youd be injured youd need to go to the hospital
lethal lagoon
I meant that your hands would still be there
Not really? Also we have different defintions of mostly fine.
Even with your pinkie finger ones
🩷 🧠
lethal lagoon
rich jolt
Not really? Also we have different defintions of mostly fine.
The mostly fine thing was meant more as a joke then anything
lethal lagoon
rich jolt
Screw you pepe man wlwpsofkslemslzm
rich jolt
Sorry the voices were getting loud☺️
karmic finch
Thats fucked
Explosions in confined spaces are not good
rich jolt
I was under the impression ceramic was as hard as stone
karmic finch
You know explosives are used against stone as like, a routine thing?
That's the normal way we get stone irl
karmic finch
And they use it against cliffs, not 1.5cm thick ceramic
rich jolt
I didnt know ceramic was that fragile
karmic finch
Have you not like, dropped a plate before?
karmic finch
My sibling in the warp...
manic river
Well reached lv 2 , I find funny popping myself up
karmic finch
Glass plates exist, but ceramic plates are not called that from what I know...
rich jolt
For strength? Huh
I was always told those were glass growing up
Well i learned today i suppose. I promise i will probably not put lit firecrackers in my hands and close them
karmic finch
It's siblings like this that get all psykers called mad...
radiant frigate
karmic finch
I mean, we are mad, but that's not the point
marble crater
So psyker chat is talking about kitchen stuff today?
rich jolt
About explosives and that yeah
karmic finch
Psyker chat, do you have a favourite spoon, and if so, why is it your favourite
rich jolt
A specific spoon or a type of spoon?
karmic finch
Specific spoon
rich jolt
Not particularly all my spoons look the same
marble crater
I have some spoons that I don't like, other than that I don't have a favorite
radiant frigate
not all spoons are made equal but still i love them all the same
marble crater
Even rusty spoons?
rich jolt
Even rusty spoons?
supple dock
I don't have a "favorite" spoon but there's definitely a spoon I default to
radiant frigate
Even rusty spoons?
i do not have rusty spoons
manic river
Got a question what are Warp Charges
rigid sky
The things you get from warp siphon
rigid sky
Left keystone
The base keystone version stacks to 4, you get them by killing elites and specials iirc, and they give you ability CDR (but are depleted when you use the ability)
rigid sky
Modifiers can make them give bonus damage, let them stack to 6
manic river
rigid sky
Give you more ways to generate them, and make them either give toughness on generation or reduce peril usage
I would only bother with them for Shriek builds though
Since Gaze doesn't play nicely with them, and shield CDR isn't as valuable
karmic finch
Shield cdr is still valuable...
Especially if bubble
25s duration, 5s buff of 50% toughness damage reduction, and 10% toughness per second.
With warp charges you can keep a bubble up pretty much permanently
Though it can die to enough ranged pressure
In melee it's a huge safety net
quartz barn
The bonus dmg is good too, obv only on higher diffs
Wouldnt bother with the 6 stacks however
Also wdym shield cdr isnt valuable, you can literally bubble > kill adds > place next bubble forward to push the horde > repeat
rigid sky
Psychinetic aura is enough to maintain shield uptime for me
quartz barn
Ye but having 3/4 bubbles up at the same time is fun
rigid sky
Still feels redundant. My only shield build runs EP instead so I can spam brain ruptures from inside my little bunker
lapis violet
i wonder what the difference between vanguard and relentless attacks is because some attacks i'd 100% classify as "relentless" are actually just vanguard
wind spruce
Imagine running shield at all
karmic finch
Shield and smite, the true Chad build (pls no)
rigid sky
More options are fun
rigid sky
The only outright bad big choice node is BLO
radiant frigate
BLO?
rigid sky
The gun lugger keystone
vestal fulcrum
^ Burst Limiter Override
rigid sky
Apart from that, all keystones blitzes and abilities are at least good
marble crater
My new favourite build is trauma shriek ep assail
Which trauma? Rending or the bad one?
plucky flax
No one ever play that really bad trauma build.
I totally didn't play it in hab dreyko and got 1.2k kills in like 25 mins.
marble crater
I will try assail EP instead of BB charges later, see how it feels. Going to be a lot less shrieks 
wind spruce
Which trauma? Rending or the bad one?
I was playing with blaze for a few days now I'm trying rending/flurry
It's nice having the faster casts
marble crater
It is, also nice to not have to edge so much, but blue fire...
Blue fire in ventilation purge or lights out
wind spruce
I edge anyway
marble crater
Don't we all
supple dock
Modifiers can make them give bonus damage, let them stack to 6
warp battery is a trap on shriek
wind spruce
warp battery is a trap on shriek
It's really not
supple dock
i never find myself getting to 5 or 6 stacks because I use it so often
wind spruce
Get better at killing elites
supple dock
Get better at killing elites
wtf is this pretentious ass respense
you better calm the fuck down
wind spruce
Don't we all <:sure:1136721339533754439>
latest scoreboard with it
wind spruce
you better calm the fuck down
take a chill pill, homie
supple dock
you're the one being pretentious lmao
supple dock
you must have really poor social skills to think you can make a joke like that without knowing who you're talking to
wind spruce
you must have really poor social skills to think you don't look like a dweeb saying "you better calm the fuck down" like you're gonna reach through your monitor and punch me
lapis violet
calling other people dweebs. what has the darktide discord come to
wind spruce
calling other people dweebs. what has the darktide discord come to
it just felt right
wind spruce
alright im done with this guy
there we go, that's more like it
lapis violet
not lowering myself to the position of somebody who calls others "dweebs"
take the damn chill pill, will you?
wind spruce
holy shit calm down
rigid sky
Idk I get to 6 stacks regularly when I take warp Siphon
wind spruce
this isn't that serious
wind spruce
Idk I get to 6 stacks regularly when I take warp Siphon
you must be really good at killing elites
rigid sky
Nah this is my purgatus build
lapis violet
the key to getting battery is not investing into shriek beyond the initial point
marble crater
latest scoreboard with it
I don't know how to read the mod, because Xbox, but I see a lot of yellow, so it looks good and effective
rigid sky
It's like 70% from in fire reborn I think
lapis violet
0 temptation to use it because there's nothing beyond the 50% vent attached to it
rigid sky
Ah yes, the classic Psyker ability
supple dock
I ran unaugmented shriek for a while
rigid sky
Remove Dog
supple dock
but the fire is so good
frozen loom
Just don't take the last bit for warp siphon
lapis violet
"remove dog"? which one would that be?
frozen loom
and chill out
rigid sky
"remove dog"? which one would that be?
Unmodified shriek
supple dock
"remove dog"? which one would that be?
shriek is really good at shoving dogs since you can use it through walls and it's so long
lapis violet
Just don't take the last bit for warp siphon
saves maybe 15s, really
rigid sky
Because all it really does is remove dogs from a distance
lapis violet
and if you're gonna be spamming purgatus, it's good to get the -12% peril charge gen
frozen loom
saves maybe 15s, really
idk man, it feels like you have more room for mistakes that way
rigid sky
So I am reductively referring to it as "remove dog" for A Humerous Effect.
lapis violet
feels that way but it's only the difference of getting to max stacks
frozen loom
but yea the extra peril resist would also be nice
rigid sky
and if you're gonna be spamming purgatus, it's good to get the -12% peril charge...
Generally essence harvest is better on purgatus
But idk about hunting that penance
supple dock
peril resist is a double edged sword
frozen loom
I just did it at max 4, and did a high intensity heresy run on purg/bb
supple dock
I'd rather have that one point be creeping flames over warp battery
frozen loom
given you say you almost never keep 5/6 stacks i don't see why not
supple dock
yeah getting ot 6 stacks just doesn't feel consistent enough
frozen loom
i don't see how this is an issue. Just take skills appropriate for your playstyle
supple dock
agreed!
Like if you can get the 6 stacks consistently amazing
buuut I'd rather have that point in more toughness or creeping flame or whatever
wind spruce
Dude the trade-off is never creeping flames
rigid sky
Well creeping Flames is non negotiable
If you have Shriek, you take creeping Flames or you are bad
(Or at best ignorant)
supple dock
yeaaah I ran without it for a while and it was...okay...buuut then I used creeping flames again and wondered why I didn't use it
lmao
rigid sky
Some abilities don't need any of the optional modifiers
frozen loom
rigid sky
But not the psyker ones
supple dock
yeee, i re-learned that lmao
frozen loom
man, I need to get blaze
rigid sky
What a lovely nukestick you have there
frozen loom
oooor, trade up both blessings
lapis violet
zealot joins mission. immediately asks: ok with speedrun?
rigid sky
You could make that into either type of trauma
lapis violet
i answer: doing battery, need to stay at max charge for 300s
rigid sky
Imo soulblaze trauma is way more fun and might be actually better
lapis violet
zealot doesn't answer. proceeds to speedrun and leave us in the dust fighting hordes and monstrosities
supple dock
before the talent tree change that penance was realllly easy
rigid sky
But lots of people like the flurry one too
rigid sky
before the talent tree change that penance was realllly easy
I hope it gets changed again
frozen loom
that's my problem, I still need the blaze blessings or a better flurry blessing lmao
supple dock
truue
rigid sky
I could see a "maintain disrupt destiny" one being more fun tbh
Blaze blessing seems super common
supple dock
But yeah, warp siphon worked off of BB kills
lapis violet
i get killed because zealot doesn't care about us getting swarmed. fine, sure. i get revived at where zealot is, completely overwhelmed and get shot to death by shotgunners and gunners
rigid sky
I consecrated 5 of them in a fucking row lmao
supple dock
So I used kinetic flayer and just... didn't mind it
frozen loom
I wonder how big of a pain in the butt the new penances will be
lapis violet
frozen loom
I still haven't done the zealot stun and 20s thing for vets