#psyker-class

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radiant frigate
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XV is quite customizable

jovial juniper
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YES

marble crater
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It is, I rolled one with Maniac and Flak and I change both blessings depending on what I want to do or run, sometimes shred and rampage, then rampage and momentum, shred and perfect strike, is fun

plucky flax
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No melee can beat combat axe on zealot.

radiant frigate
plucky flax
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Very balanced weapon.

radiant frigate
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it is most certainly a contender for rank 1 horde shredder

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it does fall behind in boss/elite damage

upper sun
radiant frigate
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preferably in the head

plucky flax
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It does very good elite damage.

remote bloom
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Beat them to death

plucky flax
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Not as much unyielding as evis.

upper sun
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πŸ€” idk i dont feel like my rashad axe does well against carap and maniacs

radiant frigate
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"very good" or "onetap crushers"

plucky flax
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But very good against flak assassination bosses.

radiant frigate
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important distinction

plucky flax
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Yeah go try evis vs 10 crusher and combat axe vs 10 crushers.

upper sun
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can i try neither

plucky flax
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The better dodge will outshine the killing power from the rev.

upper sun
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id much rather have an ogryn shield vs 10 crushers

radiant frigate
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there will promptly be less crushers to deal with on evis so

plucky flax
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You can't let the rev attack channel against many enemies.

marble crater
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Do I need to craft a combat axe for my zealot?

radiant frigate
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no

upper sun
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you only evi knife and crusher

radiant frigate
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though if i see 10 crushers i am nading it

upper sun
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other weapons dont exist

radiant frigate
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but that too

plucky flax
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Okay then same thing with axe.

upper sun
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πŸ€” the duration should be enough for 4 max right?

radiant frigate
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axe will have more left to deal with after it wears off

jovial juniper
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Now those same weapons against a wall of bullwarks

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Hmmm, no that might be unfair

remote bloom
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For that we'll send a Veteran with nades

jovial juniper
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Understandable, but in this specific situation, only melee aspects and dodge

plucky flax
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Combat axe ez.

jovial juniper
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Staying alive is important of course

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Eviscerator supremacy

remote bloom
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I am torn between eviscerator and heavy sword

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.-.

upper sun
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what ranged weapon?

plucky flax
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Not blaze trauma.

upper sun
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heavysword trauma 😻

marble crater
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Thammer Trauma, horde clear and boss damage

jovial juniper
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Give a thammer to a psyker and it's going to be V trying to lift the Sparda

marble crater
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Now what if we gave a thammer to an ogryn? loregryn

jovial juniper
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The real threat to the Eviscerator is a pack of ragers

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Crushers, bullwarks and maulers hit hard but telegraph their attacks

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And even if you cancel the shredding, you'll be doing good damage

plucky flax
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You'll be doing good damage with combat axe regardless.

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With any hit.

radiant frigate
jovial juniper
jovial juniper
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To trade with them

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Even if you use your ability to stagger them

plucky flax
jovial juniper
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Even if you do the stab

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Which has a 5 meter reach

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It's not worth the trade

upper sun
jovial juniper
upper sun
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ogryn and zealot are the only classes in the game ignore everything else

plucky flax
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I play stealth loner martyrdom/momentum.

jovial juniper
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Specially with force swords

rocky yarrow
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But everyone can happily agree there is no fourth class

upper sun
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zero medstations used
2000 hp damage taken
600k damage dealt
yup its zealot time

jovial juniper
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Or the dodge build

radiant frigate
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what's the most common zealot and why is it judge

upper sun
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verily

jovial juniper
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Always judge and fanatic smh

upper sun
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most people think "hmm i luv the emperor and hate heretics which personality/class matches that most? yup judge zealot"

rocky yarrow
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Emprah bless me with the personality scourge so that I can rid myself of the damn agitator

upper sun
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judge was the first class i made but didnt level then i played psyker

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rest i only levelled for melkbucks and then eventually played

radiant frigate
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i'm out here chastising the wicked rn i'm refusing to die rn i'm onetapping crushers i'm faithful as fuck man i'm a zealot man

upper sun
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shit im gonna be saying verily a lot

jovial juniper
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The female one

radiant frigate
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i also kinda want the agitator

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or the fanatic

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wanna call people clartyhead for taking all the ammunition

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and have a drink of something fiery

rocky yarrow
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True

radiant frigate
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and, as ever

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BEWARE YON BARREL

rocky yarrow
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Honestly my #1 business expense will be swapping all the personalities on my operatives

upper sun
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everything can go except savant psyker and agi zealot

jovial juniper
upper sun
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actually i like judge even if everyone uses it

upper sun
jovial juniper
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Judges are interesting, can't lie

radiant frigate
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i think tim bentinck put it better than i ever could

upper sun
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most important part of playing judge is starting every mission with "HELLO TO ALL NON PSYKERS"

jovial juniper
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I love when agitator revives psykers
"Your skin... so cold"
Yeah, give them a hug ffs

upper sun
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FS give us habs and more social interactions

rocky yarrow
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More interactions FS

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MORE

upper sun
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ths ship UI just gives us more time to change our minds about playing the game

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hmm do i walk over to the mission terminal? or do i just enjoy my life and close the game?

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latter wins more often than not 😭

jovial juniper
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Priority number 1, get agitator for my main

rocky yarrow
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What 5 months(?) no content does to a playerbase

upper sun
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i wanna see ogryn mains waste 22mil dockets on rations for larping reasons

rocky yarrow
jovial juniper
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You need to learn how to rationalize your, well, rations, Slab

thorn cedar
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i have been using purloin providence all day and its terrible. i unironically love it though

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with battle meditation on top sometimes you get a beautiful series of triggers that makes it almost seem worth it

untold niche
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ya thats looks more like a5 damage, but my experience is the second guy 200+ as well

dusk void
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I’m sad because I won’t be on the game game tonight due to a Colombian girl

patent wing
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wanna play a game -> load into lights out with only bots -> sigh

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load into maelstrom -> game already lost and u join the loading screen -> be locked

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takes fking agest to play a game

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loading times are unacceptable

upper sun
# dusk void I’m sad because I won’t be on the game game tonight due to a Colombian girl

Not gonna be active on Discord tonight. I'm meeting a girl (a real one) in half an hour (wouldn't expect a lot of you to understand anyway) so please don't DM me asking me where I am (im with the girl, ok) you'll most likely get aired because ill be with the girl (again I don't expect you to understand) shes actually really interested in me and its not a situation i can pass up for some meaningless Discord degenerates (because ill be meeting a girl, not that you really are going to understand) this is my life now. Meeting women and not wasting my precious time online, I have to move on from such simple things and branch out (you wouldnt understand)

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holy shit guys brunt today

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and one deimos 80dam 78 first mob 77 and finesse 64

fading galleon
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I got a very similar roll lol

upper sun
fading galleon
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aight

upper sun
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warp res im not so sure there is kind of like an arbitrary limit people set i dont remember

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like 2 fully charged shots at 80 without dying? or something

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(all 3 weapons bricked btw)

upper sun
fading galleon
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I rolled a flurry/transfer one rn

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1 more change left

vestal fulcrum
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Well you definitely don't want Sprint Efficiency Servoskull

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Flak is fine, probably

upper sun
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flak is a safe bet carap is usually saved for nexus/surge for a crusher one shot

fading galleon
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alright

marble crater
upper sun
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were brickmaxxing over here fam

marble crater
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Rip

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In honor of that brick I will play purgatus now

upper sun
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this is my main one

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id love like crit/unyielding/maniac instead of groaners hell even unarmored or even specialists

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actually

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ill even take sprint efficiency or stamina

marble crater
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I have maniac flak, it's nice

upper sun
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nice

marble crater
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68% warp resistance, almost nice

patent wing
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i swear relay station is the worst map for psycher

upper sun
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please use friends naming convention im too smooth brain to know the maps

patent wing
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idk the sand map with the big fan

upper sun
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OHHHH the one with the three batteries for the fan

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yeah fuck that one

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i swear if agent comes in and posts his clutch from that mission im gonna be pissed

patent wing
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yes

upper sun
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the one with the elevator to the coms plex is fantastic for psyker tho

patent wing
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next time i just use a spin bot and go afk

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i was playing purgatus and the spawn points are so shitty you have to literally 360 all time

upper sun
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i stopped playing purge tbh too much eye strain

patent wing
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use the custom flames mod

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like me

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set it to zealot flamer animation

upper sun
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cant use mods 😭

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maybe late this year if i get a propper rig

patent wing
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oh i was playing on 1080ti and 3700x and was fine on fhd, fyi

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doesnt need high end

upper sun
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geforce now 😭

patent wing
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is it good?

upper sun
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90% of the time ye

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sec in game

untold niche
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smh hank you no tag me

untold niche
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because my own void is running
surge,nexus. Cara + maniac

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tbh, you could change transfer peril to surge also
See if you change to nexus, and lets say you get 1 crit, if crusher and rager BP would change
I remember gunner bp become 1 hit ya

patent wing
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flurry surge gang rise up

untold niche
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so i was asking in general

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has anyone played darkest dungeon?

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how do you find it
i don't get why people find it fun, i feel its just tedious

upper sun
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dodge off the ledge
spend 5 minutes chatting with the other dead guy

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YUP real trauma gameplay

untold niche
radiant frigate
untold niche
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ooo

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i thought it would be fun like urtuk

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even though punishing and uh

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"we are going to die" feel

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still fun

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was looking for some games to play on my phone

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/ laptop

marble crater
untold niche
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oh yeah i should install tainted grail on my laptop

lethal lagoon
untold niche
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hmmmmm

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NOU

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ok tbhi think i mis raedh is one

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his*

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read the wrong line

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but still usually my a5 games total damage higher
( usually its like slightly less than 1400)

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i need to play more too, getting carried recently

upper sun
long wharf
jovial juniper
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They changed the dungeon formula

marble crater
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Maybe it depends on what you like about each one and we heard from two different groups heh
I played neither, but if the second one is less tedious and more accessible then I can imagine that it's disliked by the people who liked the difficulty that brought in the first one

long wharf
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I haven't played either game, either

woven onyx
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Which staff shoots soulblaze fire again?

marble crater
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Purgatus

woven onyx
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Ok

jovial juniper
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Both games are a test of endurance, the first one had random enemy encounters, so you'll always be on the edge of your seat

marble crater
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Waiting for the second one to come to gamepass Late

jovial juniper
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Also the modding scene on the first one is insane

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Since it's Workshop

long wharf
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I'm waiting for Helldivers 2 to drop GameGuard, though it's looking like they won't

upper sun
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yeah i still dont understand why they cant let steam handle their microtransactions i'm sure the fees arent as bad as the amount they have to pay the anti cheat people

lethal lagoon
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They could literally hire one guy to write ban conditions for infinitely cheaper than paying for that useless anti-cheat.

upper sun
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i really dont get it steam handles the aquilas for DT and no one hacked those

lethal lagoon
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I assume it's a sony problem

upper sun
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why bother jumping through hoops adding garbage to your already unstable game

long wharf
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yeah, and the fact that Helldivers 2 is 100% online, there's 0 excuse for relying on a client-side anti-cheat

upper sun
lethal lagoon
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Because it's not like they even need to protect their micros

long wharf
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definitely not a Sony problem

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the Helldivers 2 devs have said that they're relying on the client-side anti-cheat to protect against people giving themselves microtransaction cosmetics for free

lethal lagoon
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What small studio published by sony has an online multiplayer game with microtranactions?

upper sun
long wharf
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... it's really hard to call it "stealing"

upper sun
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well you get what i mean

long wharf
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I'm not a proponent of software piracy, don't take this the wrong way

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but it's not "stealing"

upper sun
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ye copying isnt stealing

long wharf
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besides, it's already been demonstrated that people are actively cheating in HD2

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so GameGuard isn't stopping people anyways

upper sun
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if it was stealing id pirate something 20000 times then delete to crash a company

long wharf
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what it is doing is causing connection issues for players

upper sun
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imagine cheating in a coop game

lethal lagoon
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It's also a game with crossplay, so the cheating can be pretty concerning.

long wharf
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and I don't care how honest or reliable a company is, nobody is going to have kernel-level access to any system of mine

upper sun
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yeah

long wharf
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the cheating is happening already

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there are infinite money, god mode, infinite ammo, etc cheats in the wild

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GameGuard is not only incredibly ineffective, but it's also only ever been used by trash Korean MMOs

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the decision to use GameGuard in the first place boggles my mind

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there are far more advanced/modern anti-cheat systems

zinc phoenix
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Like DeezNuts

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🫑

lethal lagoon
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I definitely didn't hack in maplestory

long wharf
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and in the end, the race between security and hackers will always go to the hackers

lethal lagoon
long wharf
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a determined hacker will get through your security, eventually

zinc phoenix
long wharf
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it's not an "if", but a "when"

zinc phoenix
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F butt ween

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Go away this is a chat for talkin bout shooting lightning from your fingers

long wharf
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the best way to fight piracy in all its forms is to make the product cheap enough and available enough that nobody wants to pirate it

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you weren't even chatting before, hush.

zinc phoenix
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Now I am BEGONE

long wharf
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this is the most activity the server has seen in weeks.

zinc phoenix
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Everyone got bored

long wharf
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that happens when you drop the god damn ball as badly as FartShack has

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but hey, yet another penance system rework, that'll bring people back.

long wharf
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not really

upper sun
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ive seen a couple of posts on the forum under the update with "we havent seen this person in x amount of time"

long wharf
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I'd rather the game not get an update until they address crafting

upper sun
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im gonna take a break soon until the crafting is fixed anyhow

long wharf
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rather than FartShack insulting the playerbase with more shoddy penance cosmetics and more penances

jovial juniper
marble crater
long wharf
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yeah, at least they're finally changing that

cosmic sigil
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or catnapped

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we should ask for POL

long wharf
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what is that screenshot supposed to prove?

upper sun
marble crater
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I am looking forward to playing the female voice that keeps saying "naturally" and laughs like a maniac, not sure which one it is though

cosmic sigil
long wharf
cosmic sigil
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it just shows that the last com from the CM was the 30.03

cosmic sigil
long wharf
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less than 2 weeks ago

marble crater
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There was something on the 4th from StrawHat

cosmic sigil
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Yeah, for the hotfix iirc

long wharf
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regardless, imagine being Catfish, getting hired to be the CM for Darktide, and FartShack just shits all over your enthusiasm for the game

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just fat dumps on the community

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sloppy, wet killing the playerbase

cosmic sigil
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well CM work is probably not the easiest...

long wharf
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it's even worse when the company you're representing doesn't want to make it any easier for you

upper sun
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i swear to god we should absolutely get some compensation for wasted materials with the crafting update

cosmic sigil
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that must be frustrating

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my god i just could not

long wharf
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must be

long wharf
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the really weird thing is that every time Catfish has announced that stuff is in the works, FartShack puts out some bullshit update that nobody asked for

cosmic sigil
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the hotfix?

long wharf
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but the twins fight and new map were released out of nowhere

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no well-planned lead-up with CM presence

cosmic sigil
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there was a trailer for the twins

long wharf
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just, splat, there it is

cosmic sigil
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and the new map was teased

long wharf
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and two days later it was released

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it wasn't a paced, controlled build-up of interest at all

cosmic sigil
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that came out a bit too soon after p13 maybe

upper sun
long wharf
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ignoring your slur, the people in charge of Darktide have proven to this point that they have no business being in charge of anything remotely live nor service

upper sun
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boomer is hardly a slur

cosmic sigil
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i don't think they have the experience of a live/service game

long wharf
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is it a pejorative aimed at a particular group of people?

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if yes, it's a slur

upper sun
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its a term for a people from a generation

cosmic sigil
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their work processes must not be geared toward that kind of game

upper sun
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the name of their generation is baby boomers

long wharf
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yes, but nobody called them "boomers"

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until it started being used negatively online

upper sun
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bruh you advocated for violence against the devs at some point and you're calling me out for this

cosmic sigil
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as a 42 yo, i find it a bit derogatory

long wharf
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what's really funny is that you're taking me seriously

cosmic sigil
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i am not calling anyone kiddo

long wharf
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  1. people do use "boomer" as a slur, even though you didn't
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  1. I don't really give a fuck
upper sun
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bruh

marble crater
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So you are just being a troll right now? KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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of course.

cosmic sigil
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i am more offended by PFhoenix

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like why

long wharf
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when you get to my age, trolling becomes one of life's great pleasures

cosmic sigil
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WHY

long wharf
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I can't wait until I get old enough that nobody even questions what I say, regardless of how batshit crazy it is

upper sun
long wharf
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... I'm older than you, son

cosmic sigil
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ok boomer

long wharf
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that's right

cosmic sigil
long wharf
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I was there when the old protocols were written

cosmic sigil
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if you weren't there for september '93 that does not count

long wharf
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I was there before then

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I was there for PPP

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and BBSes

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and listening to your 9600 baud modem go KRSHHSLKJLEJLSKTKSKSKKZZZ

cosmic sigil
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my god that sound

long wharf
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and before that, I saved games on an Atari 800 on 5.25" floppy disks

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before that on tapes

cosmic sigil
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tapes were the worst

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i hated using that

long wharf
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the worst part about tapes as an active storage medium was having to rewind the damn things

cosmic sigil
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that was soooooo slow

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how could anyone have the idea that yeah, we're going to put stuff on a medium that is just the most inconvenient ever

long wharf
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I wrote my very first program on the Atari 800 using a BASIC cartridge

cosmic sigil
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damn that's old

long wharf
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hard drives didn't exist

cosmic sigil
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oh fuck, you're right

long wharf
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the only thing you had was magnetic tape in various forms

cosmic sigil
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i did not think about that at all

long wharf
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I've been in the middle of computer tech my entire life, thanks to my father

cosmic sigil
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i do take hard drives for granted

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expect... we had to to without at some point

long wharf
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PC hardware is so simple compared to 30+ years ago

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no messing with BIOS IRQs

cosmic sigil
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T_T

long wharf
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or IDE master/slave switches/channels

cosmic sigil
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oh that reminds me of the first pc I built

long wharf
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or running out of room on your SCSI bus

cosmic sigil
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it was fun but now, as a user... i am glad it's way more simple

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and not having to be the it friend

long wharf
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there will always be "IT friends"

long wharf
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don't make the mistake of thinking that people are on average more PC literate now than they were before

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the vast majority of people have a phone

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phone usage doesn't translate to PC hardware knowledge at all

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tons of kids today know nothing about computers

marble crater
long wharf
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despite using one for the majority of their day (their phone)

cosmic sigil
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a lot of people that would have use a computer (desktop/laptop) 10 or 20 years ago at home, use a phone now

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the pb is the younger generation at work, not being able to use a computer properly

long wharf
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well, the real solution is to develop mobile-focused productivity devices

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sitting at a computer isn't a "natural" position for people

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we're starting to get mobile hardware that's seriously performant

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look at the latest Surface Pros

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or high-end Android tablets

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some work isn't suited for a smaller screen form factor, but hook that up to a proper monitor, and it can work

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there are still a lot of businesses, especially in big tech (MS, Apple, Google) where employees are issued a beefy laptop with docking hardware for home use, and at the office they just hook up to the docking hardware there

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same work device used for both workstation and home/mobile use

cosmic sigil
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that has been my case for a few years now, i have company issued laptop with a docking station at work and i bought mine for home use as well (more convenient)

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but yeah a lot of work could be done today on tablets / thin laptops and remote access to some server

lethal lagoon
marble crater
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Too many voices

lethal lagoon
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When the voices are at just the right amount ok

long wharf
lethal lagoon
long wharf
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yeah, better back that truck riiiiight up

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get the nozzle all the way up there

upper sun
lethal lagoon
marble crater
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Sour Milk really doesn't want to sell me Rending Shockwave t4 whaaa

upper sun
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i got deflector 4 πŸ˜„

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||on a purple too maximum savings||

marble crater
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Did you want deflector 4?

upper sun
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eh why not

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i do use it on one illisi

marble crater
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Together with slaughterer? sure

upper sun
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😭

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maybe after the crafting update

lethal lagoon
zinc phoenix
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I have a MacBook Pro but I don’t need it except to run the IDEs and occasional local testing. Almost everything is cloud resources for building, testing and destroying various clusters

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You can’t really do any kind of devops stuff with local anyway

vestal tree
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so surge staff is a no go now?

upper sun
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you havent played since it was changed?

vestal tree
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nope, pray tell what happened

upper sun
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its now mostly a single target staff for secondary

vestal tree
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eww why

upper sun
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it has a good stagger for two enemies with lesser damage on the second

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it does good damage on the single target tho

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perks for it are flak+ elite/crit chance/maniac

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its a good staff has very high crit chance and can one shot many elites

lethal lagoon
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Spam right click and flaming shriek, probably the easiest playstyle to destroy aurics.

upper sun
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i usually do better with truama than surge tbh

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prolly because its so weak i play better

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pls buff

lethal lagoon
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I mean 1st place is 1st place, a win is a win.

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And surge is the easiest way to get there.

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Brain off Brr on

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Aiming, watching peril, looking for chokepoints?

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Yuck

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🀒

upper sun
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most of the time i run trauma i dont even get any hp damage until the third or more event

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err encounter not event

lethal lagoon
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I mean yeah, cause trauma requires you to turn your brain on

upper sun
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brain bad

lethal lagoon
upper sun
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i need to play more surge

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this is the perfect clip for surge gameplay

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i didnt even see/hear the trapper i was just shooting in random directions

lethal lagoon
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Peak Brain Off Gampelay

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PBOG

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Also known as the famous "Pog" for people who spit too much while speaking.

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Surge is POG

jovial juniper
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I do wish Surge had more blessings

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I know, rng shenanigans not good

upper sun
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i wish it had less blessings

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ie only nexus/flurry

lethal lagoon
jovial juniper
# upper sun ie only nexus/flurry

Stop posting about Surge, I was on a rogue trader ship, right?
And aaall my staves were Surge
I'm tired of seeing it
I took a look at my inventory and said
Hey babe, Nexus/Flurry
Ahahaha
[Nightsider dings]
AAAAAA

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blows up from peril

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....

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I am so sad that there's no "Stop posting about psykers"

limpid lodge
#

Why Surge when you can purgatus

potent echo
#

Real psyker hours

zinc phoenix
#

πŸ” atus

wind spruce
woven onyx
#

I liked stacking Soulblaze to groups, and getting empowered brain bursts to deal with specialists and mutants

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Make heads go pop, and also spread the blue flames!

fading galleon
#

hadron finally cooperated

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("finally" being like, two days later. but still)

lethal lagoon
#

When Hadron Likes you(ignore the perks, was testing stuff)

lethal lagoon
fading galleon
#

idk lol what do you recommend?

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this is what I have at t4 atm

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uncanny then, based on your previous screenshot?

lethal lagoon
#

Uncanny works.

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Shred is nice too

#

Unstable isn't bad

#

Deflector if that's your sthick

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Oh I accidentlly just listed everything that's also listed in the guide.

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I mean uncanny is just so overwhelming it's always the default BiS for basically any weapon that can have it

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Illy hits a lot of unarmored targets, so slaughterer probably edges out.

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But luckily we can have both

fading galleon
#

hadron cooperated again

fading galleon
#

the arsenal grows

cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
fading galleon
#

pffft what a mission

radiant frigate
#

46 minutes

plucky flax
karmic finch
#

Even without that it would make the surge competitive for monstrosity damage I think

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But yes, having the chained crit doubled would be essential to make it worth the blessing slot

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Though surge staff left click is pretty strong

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Annoying they gave trauma staff surge and not surge

plucky flax
plucky flax
#

But then again it's the same issue. A lot of wasted damage.

lethal lagoon
#

People don't really think about how panicked real games get.

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Surge doesn't require aim, ammo, or any real set up to do boss damage

plucky flax
#

Buff trauma to be as good as surge.

lethal lagoon
#

^

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Give infinite stacks for blazing spirit so Trauma can actually do damage.

#

The 6 limit ruins it

plucky flax
radiant frigate
#

i do not think it does much anyway

karmic finch
lethal lagoon
#

Surge has a high base crit, so you'd definitely have to do the math for which to replace with a therotical surge blessing

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I mean ds4 face stab means tunnel visioning the boss though

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Surge wins again

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Bosses do tend to come with lots of disabler spawns after all, which surge is great at then back to the boss.

karmic finch
#

Surge almost certainly higher DPS than flurry, as your crit rate is huge, but flurry is more reliable

lethal lagoon
#

The question isn't Surge or not Surge, but whether to replace warp nexus or flurry. I mean it seems like it'd be obvious to replace Flurry.

karmic finch
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There would be pros and cons to it, I would probably go surge over flurry myself, but pros and cons is a sign of a balanced game

lethal lagoon
#

But you'd have to the math cause crit has diminishing returns

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It's probably better to replace flurry in that scenario though. But only probably

karmic finch
#

But when crits are doubled that's not really the case

lethal lagoon
#

I mean each point of crit is still worth less than the previous

dim parrot
lethal lagoon
#

But as I said, probably replace flurry

lethal lagoon
#

Thats how crit always works yeah

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Unless you have like special on-crit abilities but in terms of damage yes

karmic finch
#

Surge without the crit node would be doubling down on unreliable damage lol

lethal lagoon
#

Let's see 33% base Surge damage, 53% with nexus assuming you are properly edging like a good boy.

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Or 25% flurry atk spd.

radiant frigate
#

i will take the 53%

lethal lagoon
#

Surge crits do about 50% damage, but with Surge Blessing it's about 150% damage.

karmic finch
#

Flurry is 33% less time charging, but can't reduce the time releasing the secondary

radiant frigate
#

you mean 50% increased damage

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah yeah, everyone get's what I mean

karmic finch
#

25% less time charging sorry, or 33% more DPS.

But again, it's less than that as there's a fixed time to release the shot

hollow current
#

Don’t people have a tech for getting surge stave damage out almost instantly?

radiant frigate
#

but then the surged up surge would be 300% normal damage on crit

lethal lagoon
#

No?

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Well yeah

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Anyone logged in and have the difference between a surge normal hit and crit?

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Or the table

karmic finch
#

Surge has the crit bonuses so it's quite a big jump

lethal lagoon
#

crit bonuses don't do a lot, so not really pepeW

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I've been doing the math but not hitting enter cause I don't have surge's exact numbers, I'm just assuming it's 50%, so 200% crit damage basically.
That means warp nexus only increases DPS by 40%.

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When you take into account overkill

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Warp Flurry + Surge Blessing is potentially better on Surge staff.

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That seems completely wrong

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Okay off I go

lethal lagoon
#

No wait, I'm not

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NotLikeThis I need to stop doing math while late and old

karmic finch
#

Just found an image with 60% crit bonus and that was just below 150% on crits

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So probably 50% is a good approximation

lethal lagoon
#

Then yeah, Warp Flurry + Surge Blessing for Surge Staff would probably be the meta.

karmic finch
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Normal hit 100, crit 150, surge crit 300

lethal lagoon
#

No 250

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No wait I am dumb

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Okay so warp nexus is 40% DPS

#

I still feel like Flurry would be better

#

Also depends if Surge blessing would hit two targets or not

#

I need surge blessing on Surge NOW

#

You know now I'm not completely sure Warp Nexus and Surge on Voidstrike is the correct choice

radiant frigate
lethal lagoon
#

That and or Surge + Flurry

radiant frigate
#

surge flurry sounds like an awful idea

lethal lagoon
#

It sure sounds like it

radiant frigate
#

12.5% to crit, 17.5% with prescience

#

would you rather more than double/almost triple your chance to trigger surge, or cast faster if you chaincast?

#

either way my verdict is surge better if you use it less and have true aim, probably flurry better if it is your main weapon

lethal lagoon
#

Trippling your chance to trigger Surge sounds good.

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Oh I'm mostly wondering if Surge with Flurry is better than Surge with Nexus.

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I don't care about the other combos that much

radiant frigate
#

if you only click heads and have true aim then surge flurry good

hollow current
#

That’s what I ran on my void. Flurry and surge. With true aim you crit often enough that nexus doesn’t seem worth it to me asides from bosses or single to few targets.

But then again I’ve ran gunker for the last 300-200 levels so what do I know.

radiant frigate
#

do i buy it to complete my collection of force sword blessings?

marble crater
#

Sure, why not, can also use it for a meme flame illisi build heh

rigid sky
#

it's not as bad on illisi as it's made out to be (just don't pair it with blazing spirit lmao)

radiant frigate
#

i have only seen bloodthirsty once before

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and i thought "wow this is useless" and slapped something else on it

rigid sky
#

it might get buffed another time

radiant frigate
#

it might

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will pick it up in case

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technically i am missing uncanny IV

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but i do have it on the sharp illisi of leg paralysis

blissful crypt
rich spindle
#

whats the 80% first target multiplier for illisi

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1.3?

radiant frigate
#

79% is 1.32

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80% on a deimos is 1.32

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so probably same

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and yes it is the same

fading galleon
# radiant frigate 46 minutes

other psyker was mainlining smite like his life depended on it and one of the vets used an agri shotty or something. took forever to kill enough enemies to advance

radiant frigate
#

checked on the unstable illisi of power

rich spindle
#

I wonder if the 10% damage diff between that and a 50% roll with ~1.2 has any noticeable breakpoints

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esp with slaughterer stacks

radiant frigate
#

probably not

upper sun
fading galleon
upper sun
#

actually colum was fine for me too

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i have a good one for all of my chars

radiant frigate
#

how come our guns are so much deadlier than whatever the heretics have

upper sun
#

chaos made them forget how to maintain them

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though the gunner accuracy is criminal

radiant frigate
#

gunner accuracy is way better than ogryn accuracy

upper sun
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that gunner was 93m away

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how the hell can the gunner snipe me while my braced guns do zero damage at 30m

radiant frigate
#

rock :)

upper sun
#

i tried 😭 also I was just crafting stuff for ogryn i thought i was queuing up as zealot

radiant frigate
#

amm-o :)

fallow yacht
#

secondary perk for blazing trauma?

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elites? flak?

rich spindle
#

Prob flak cus it hits everythings feet

marble crater
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Flak yes

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That's a nice blaze trauma

rigid sky
#

Idk what to do with your other modification

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Nexus to 4 maybe? Or perk to 5%?

upper sun
#

πŸ€” how good are you at edging?

plucky flax
wind spruce
mighty olive
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So I made a blaze trauma and I swear it was the worst staff ever in terms of damage, is it honestly still good or? Lol

upper sun
#

yeah its very weak it needs a buff

plucky flax
#

Yeah extremely bad staff.

upper sun
#

but seriously tho enemies need to be closer to the center to take full damage

plucky flax
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Pls buff nooooo

mighty olive
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Why do people still play it then? >_>

plucky flax
#

People like me like the pain.

mighty olive
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LOL

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I tried it and kept getting bitched out by zealots who said I just flunk shit around

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So I deleted the build

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_<

upper sun
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so tru so tru whenever i use it i almost no hp damage until the like the first event because everyone else has to carry the guy with the bad staff

rigid sky
#

For real though Trauma is super strong

marble crater
stuck sinew
rigid sky
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Very versatile

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it does everything

mighty olive
#

_>

rigid sky
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It's something that you have to get a feel for I think

upper sun
mighty olive
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I dunno I didn't see the hype when I played it at all

rigid sky
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one strength it has is that you can stagger most shit with a low charge attack, and you can centre them at your own feet

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which keeps you safe very well

marble crater
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You kill and cc the big targets and burn down the rest, it's very nice

mighty olive
stuck sinew
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Where it's really at is the surge blessing primary fire spam Trauma whatthefuck_heresy

mighty olive
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Doesn't surge not work eith blaze though ?

marble crater
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Add some Perilous Combustion and shriek and you will also burn ragers and maulers while doing that, spam shriek, win

stuck sinew
mighty olive
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ahh lol

stuck sinew
#

Become a wizard machine gun

cinder moon
#

i equate trauma with crucis powerhammer; sure, it's technically good, but you're just knocking shit over and taking forever to actually kill stuff outside of the rare occasions you get a one hit

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meanwhile void go brrr

marble crater
#

Heresy, at least compare it to the ironhelm

cinder moon
#

inevitably see trauma user spamming it at their feet because they got surrounded by the stuff they weren't killing

mighty olive
stuck sinew
#

The Ironhelm is overall more vers though

calm sapphire
marble crater
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Trauma is also versatile

cinder moon
#

surge and void are just better, i even use purg over trauma

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and i don't like purg

mighty olive
#

Yeah I don't think I'll play trauma again unless they change something

plucky flax
#

Veri bad all other staff would solo everything better than this.

rigid sky
#

Not every staff is for every person

calm sapphire
rigid sky
#

But objectively speaking, Trauma is our strongest weapon

upper sun
cinder moon
cinder moon
plucky flax
upper sun
plucky flax
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Not for me I'd rather just keep blasting.

calm sapphire
marble crater
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Save plasteel with that simple trick

cinder moon
plucky flax
cinder moon
#

except void actually has range, and surge stunlocks things without knocking them over so teammates don't have to stare at the ground to help clean up

mighty olive
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Yeaaa am big fan of void, its saved my arse in so many situations

rigid sky
#

I like taking brain rupture with EP to compensate for Trauma's limitations for long range

stuck sinew
#

Left click

rigid sky
#

LMB spam also good

plucky flax
#

The worse your team is the better blaze trauma become.

calm sapphire
cinder moon
#

just don't get surrounded 5Head

rigid sky
#

Shit does happen

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Some arenas make it hard to not get surrounded while controlling an objective too

cinder moon
#

more seriously, i just can't see the draw with trauma, i've tried it and it straight up does not work for me

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i can kill everything with void, i can stunlock and kill everything with surge

rigid sky
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The draw is versatility mainly

upper sun
calm sapphire
cinder moon
#

i have smite for that

upper sun
#

whats a smite

plucky flax
#

Blaze trauma extremely bad weapon pls buff.

cinder moon
#

buff surge whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
#

unironically yes

calm sapphire
upper sun
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like maybe buff the secondary target damage from 25% to 40%

cinder moon
#

when they changed surge staff, i was initially annoyed

upper sun
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also secondary target damage doesnt scale with crits

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like

cinder moon
#

but i eventually understood it and now it's easily my favorite

upper sun
#

at least make it do the full 25% of the crit

cinder moon
#

yeah there are some edge case things with surge that would be nice to have fixed

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but overall it's very good

upper sun
#

even with a crit secondary is still below 300

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it seems to do 25% of the primary damage up until a certain point

#

its so weird

rich spindle
#

Surge is my fav now too

#

Beat staff at deleting spaced out ranged trash

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Annoying it doesnt have any dump stats really

cinder moon
#

maining surge for a while skewed my perception of how annoying random shooters could be

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it just deletes them, even when they're behind cover/in weird spots

upper sun
#

ye getting it to lock before they pop back into cover is so satisfying

fading galleon
#

who has a good build for me that uses shield? preferably the dome (it looks cooler)

karmic finch
#

80% will get you a fully charged secondary with around 19.5 peril, every 10% less makes that 1 peril more

fading galleon
karmic finch
#

So if that's fully a dump stat at 60% it will be 21.5 peril, roughly, for a fully charged secondary

marble crater
#

You can play it with purgatus and make your own little fortress zone KEKW_ogryn

fading galleon
#

I don't have a purgatus build yet so sure

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sounds good

karmic finch
#

But then you are playing purgatus, and that also means playing brain burst

upper sun
karmic finch
#

Because purgatus has no option to kill ranged

upper sun
#

this is what i use for purge

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dome/bb/deimos/warp siphon

marble crater
#

This would be my suggestion, with dueling sword

upper sun
#

kinetic resonance and empathetic might be worth it if you drop the last two points from warp siphon

marble crater
upper sun
#

bruh deimos H2 is like one of the most broken melee attacks in all the game

#

imagine that shit on a zealot

marble crater
#

That could split Atoma in half

fading galleon
#

oh and dumpstat on purgatus?

upper sun
#

damage and warp res

marble crater
#

Damage and warp resistance

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Too slow, damn

upper sun
#

damage only really effects the love tap from lmb

karmic finch
#

I think the base charge rate needs a buff, then the nodes that improve it can be toned down maybe

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But it takes like half an hour to kill anything

upper sun
#

at least the precharge is nice

karmic finch
#

After all that time spent you can have someone headshot them with literally any gun and do the same job you just spent 3 seconds winding up

marble crater
#

Yeah it's slow, only times I use it is for snipers, dogs and far away specials if no enemies are around me

upper sun
#

it blew minds in pubs when i delete trappers before they even appear

#

like bruh im just in my corner edging my brain burst

fading galleon
#

ok that'll do then

karmic finch
#

And currently the improved psionics and the faster charge after ability use are like a crutch to make it feel ok

upper sun
karmic finch
#

When they could have just made it feel ok

marble crater
#

This man has too much luck crafting weapons

upper sun
#

ikr

plucky flax
#

Why purga is so easy to craft.

#

3 blessings only with 2 dump stats.

upper sun
#

FS has a dedicated employee dealing with his upgrades

marble crater
plucky flax
#

Are they gud?

marble crater
#

Not perfect, but good yes

plucky flax
#

None of my weapons are perfect. nooooo

#

1.8k hours played for dis

upper sun
#

very easy to craft yes πŸ˜„

plucky flax
#

Eh you should have rebless to tb4 before last upgrade.

#

More chance of flurry/nexus 4.

upper sun
#

i have a usable one i just wanted to see how badly hadron can fuck it up organically

fading galleon
#

hit lvl 30 on tuesday

#

these are the best ones so far

supple dock
#

I'm pretty sure you want damage to be your dumpstat on purgatus right?

upper sun
#

simon and knite will come after you

fading galleon
#

I also have a 550 deimos but it's deflector/unstable power lol. will try to get one with uncanny

supple dock
#

i mean deflector is pretty good

#

cheap way to get 30% block efficiency

plucky flax
#

Hrm they are okay.

fading galleon
supple dock
#

yee, i meant for the deimos

upper sun
fading galleon
#

F

#

I am slowly running out of resources though.

supple dock
#

I'm honestly at as close to perfect as I'm willing to grind for

fading galleon
#

have blown through nearly 60k plasteel since tuesday lol

supple dock
#

I need to conserve resources for new crafting shit lmao

fading galleon
#

actually more than 60k

upper sun
#

eh i stopped i went up to 30k plasteel then hover around 5k

supple dock
#

I'm at like..

upper sun
#

i wanted to try some new weapons

supple dock
#

140k plasteel and 60-80k diamantine

upper sun
#

nice

supple dock
#

i am READY for new crafting shit

#

G I B

upper sun
#

they better reembrace me for the 50k i spent for pcycle 4 and thrust 4 😭

supple dock
#

Though I definitely blew about 2m the other day

cinder moon
#

reembrace πŸ˜‚

supple dock
#

Trying to see if I can't get a good 380 sword and staff

radiant frigate
#

must conserve resources for force/power greatswords...

supple dock
#

spoilers

upper sun
supple dock
#

I found 2 380' and they were not good

cinder moon
fading galleon
#

aw brunt rolled me a really good 380 base but hadron bricked it.

#

anyway weakspot is a meme but I'll live with this one for now

supple dock
#

fuck that condescending piece of shity

#

i hate hadron

#

all my homies hate hadron

radiant frigate
upper sun
cinder moon
#

i've spent more than 50k of each resource trying to get momentum 4 for literally any eviscerator over the last year, still haven't gotten it

radiant frigate
cinder moon
#

momentum

supple dock
upper sun
#

STOP GIVING ME HARMFUL INFORMATION

radiant frigate
#

non brutal

upper sun
#

oh

cinder moon
#

not bromentum

radiant frigate
#

just momentum

fading galleon
#

evis XV with momentum and rampage is fun

#

good sustain

upper sun
#

yeah i use momentum 3 on mine its good enough

upper sun
cinder moon
radiant frigate
#

i use shred to trigger crit cdr

marble crater
radiant frigate
#

it good

supple dock
#

so what do you guys think about gunner resist for psyker?

cinder moon
#

just use deflector

#

if you're getting shot

upper sun
#

i dont really have a gunner problem on psyker

radiant frigate
#

always run gunner resist on every character

#

is my take

supple dock
#

Yeah that's kinda my take too, because I can just walk down a group of gunners

upper sun
cinder moon
#

good to have at least 1 gunner resist on 1 curio though

upper sun
#

1 gunner 1 bomber 1 flamer is nice

supple dock
#

I run all 3 as toughness blessings, toughness perk, gunner resist and cooldown (warp siphon shit)

radiant frigate
#

meaning you last twice as long vs gunners

#

it good

supple dock
#

though im kinda considering switching from cooldown to toughness regen

radiant frigate
#

toughness regen speed?

supple dock
#

mmhm

radiant frigate
#

pretty heretical imo

supple dock
#

you think?

#

Hmm

#

I mean psyker with illisi has crazy toughness generation

radiant frigate
#

yeah waste of a stat

upper sun
#

i use toughness regen on ogryn and zealot psyker idk

supple dock
#

yeah fair

#

I'll keep the cooldown then

#

4 less seconds when I'm spamming venting shriek seems solid

radiant frigate
#

my zealot currently has gunner/health/toughness

rich spindle
#

All 4 cooldown is probably bos for psyker

#

Bis

supple dock
#

yeah

radiant frigate
#

psyker currently gunner/sprint/stam

supple dock
#

you use dueling sword?

plucky flax
#

I run triple toughness regen.

radiant frigate
#

illisi

plucky flax
supple dock
#

really! I'd expect stamina with the dueling sword because gotta go fast

radiant frigate
#

i also have an obligation to move at an accelerated pace

supple dock
#

but I guess it means you don't need kinetic deflection..

radiant frigate
#

no i do

supple dock
#

wait does it make kinetic stronger?

rich spindle
#

I took off sprint when i realized i stand still to cast as psyker a lot

supple dock
#

I play mostly surge (read: only) so I love to move around a lot

#

you can keep a good pace going with positive stamina regen if you slide at a specific interval

radiant frigate
#

no but i like having KD for resses plus it's on the way to true aim and DD

supple dock
#

this is fair!

radiant frigate
#

having a res fail because i couldn't block a few trash mobs just feels bad

upper sun
#

dont need to block if everything is dead

radiant frigate
#

yes but sometimes you don't have the time to get them dead (right here) (right now)

supple dock
#

so unless there's like 4 gunners in an open field I can usually get the revive

rich spindle
#

BRICKED

radiant frigate
#

that's epic

#

at least you have +maniac

#

slap on uncanny slaughterer and gg

rich spindle
#

im going for a perfect roll

radiant frigate
#

my condolences

rich spindle
#

carapace is gonna bug the hell out of me

#

is uncanny actually good on illisi

jovial juniper
radiant frigate
#

i think it is real neat when i shriek at mass armor and it actually does damage because of uncanny slaughterer

#

and piling on more from perilous combustion because you're also killing them in melee

#

i always run it

#

but I'm also something of an outlier

#

melee psyker purityseal

plucky flax
#

Against horde shred would let you kill more, or executor if you hit head. Unstable is easy to maintain too.

rich spindle
#

I zap crusher with magic

mighty olive
#

think i might rename emy psyker Funkadactyl when we can name change XD

cinder moon
#

i requested a name change on the forums literally the day before the announcement for personality scourge KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

going from holy to Holly

cinder moon
#

holy was too on the nose

#

the rest are "misspelled", though i'm not entirely sold on fite or marshal

rigid sky
plucky flax
#

Name/gender/voice change is with the april update?

rich spindle
#

Ill be honest ive been reading your name as kinte and in kunta

supple dock
#

Since we're posting weapons

rigid sky
supple dock
# supple dock

I'm unsure if I want maniacs or crit chance though on my surge :/

rich spindle
#

Maniacs not that good imo

supple dock
#

Carapace then?

#

Or just go crit

rich spindle
#

Carapace will only boost dmg against crushers, which I wouldnt pick personally

supple dock
#

Yeah true enough..

#

Ugh. crit is pretty much the best huh

rich spindle
#

I like picking unyielding

supple dock
#

MAYBE uny-

#

yeah that oine

rich spindle
#

Because I spam bosses with surge

supple dock
#

I use kinetic resonance for that

upper sun
#

im a flak elite enjoyer its hard for us out there

rich spindle
#

Elite is a good choice too

supple dock
#

Elite! Does it push you past any breakpoints that it normally wouldn't?

plucky flax
#

Maniac let you 2 shot rager.

plucky flax
#

1 shot trapper without crit.

supple dock
#

LMAO

#

Oh that's big

marble crater
plucky flax
#

I run flak maniac on my surge.

upper sun
rich spindle
#

I never had an issue with ragers not dying fast enough

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But its not worthles

supple dock
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true enough

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I usually deal with muties with a mix of sword and staff

plucky flax
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I did 186k monster damage with surge not having unyielding.

supple dock
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that's wild wtf

plucky flax
rich spindle
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I bet crit chance comes out to more damage over a whole match

supple dock
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Ehhhh yeah probably

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Hmm. I like using brain burst (heresy I know)

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I'm unsure if I want kinetic resonance or if I should leave it unaugmented

plucky flax
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Not bb with surge nooooo

supple dock
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I use bb pretty much exclusively for snipers

rich spindle
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When i use surge i dont take kinetic res

supple dock
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Hmm.

rich spindle
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Surge is the boss damage

supple dock
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fair enough, i guess that means I have a free point

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TIME TO PUT IT IN BATTLE MEDITATION

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no im kidding

plucky flax
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Do you have kd?

supple dock
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yee

plucky flax
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What's your tree atm?

jovial juniper
cinder moon
supple dock
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Perfect timing is prolly waht I'll put that point into

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Or, I take away kinetic resonance and empathic evasion

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For augmenting my shriek

rich spindle
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What da.

marble crater
rich spindle
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You gotta get creeping flames upgrade on shriek

supple dock
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I usually take care of crowds with illisi so I never had a big use for it

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I use the push for a LOT of things

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my favorite use is using it through walls when someone gets dogged

plucky flax
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Aye get creeping flames.

supple dock
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mmm

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alright

rich spindle
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Creeping flames is so much damage

plucky flax
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Also remove warp expenditure for perfect timing.

supple dock
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yeah I was swapping between those a lot

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trying to see which I liked more