idk yesterday only lost 1
#psyker-class
mighty olive
Not so much anymore, unless they're newbs lol psykers stonk
plucky flax
No I win every game.
dark stag
what does a good void staff look like?
cinder moon
like this, but with specialist perk swapped out for something else
could also have flurry instead of surge, but surge is fun
dark stag
thx, also did they nerf the stagger on the purg staff? I remember being able to push crushers back with the left click.
upper sun
like this, but with specialist perk swapped out for something else
what a horrible staff please remove it from my sight
upper sun
unironically
dark stag
is warp res a dump stat for void?
upper sun
void might be the one place where crit damage might work
upper sun
is warp res a dump stat for void?
shouldnt be too low but kinda
if you click view stats you can see how everything scales
dark stag
ok for hadron?
dark stag
alr
marble crater
ok for hadron?
Good luck
dark stag
SHE'S REAL
upper sun
ayo nice
dark stag
what perk should I upgrade?
rigid sky
Depends on the builds tbh
rigid sky
what perk should I upgrade?
Change specialists, and change flurry to nexus
Specialists could be a few different things
dark stag
alr
upper sun
yeah pretty much whatever you want. i would go flak but carap/maniac/elite are all good picks
untold niche
i don't even run crit chance
cara + maniac (only things im scared of :p)
upper sun
i don't even run crit chance
cara + maniac (only things im scared of :p)
hmm i would then run groaners/infested
untold niche
hmm i would then run groaners/infested
illisi got me covered on dat
upper sun
the game legit spawns more flak brusiers/groaners/bursters behind me when i play psyker
i am not joking
untold niche
stand infront of ur team
upper sun
delusional? maybe but it feels that way
untold niche
no more zombie behind u
upper sun
but then shooters shred me
upper sun
its a valid term!
untold niche
untold niche
:0
upper sun
damn cant believe evolution made us give up being this flexible
untold niche
i think some peole can still do that
upper sun
yeah
but very few are born being able to do that without a lot of stretching
10 min loading screen
very nice
marble crater
upper sun
aaaaaaand now the screen is just black with the yellow spinning logo
cant even queue up for a mission
nice
marble crater
It's just a lights out modifier
upper sun
im sorry but how the fuck are "Change Your DNS" and "Delete Darktide AppData" the same solutions to the same issue
this is code for we dont know what the problem is
cinder moon
happened to me just now
upper sun
u in my game
upper sun
hmm then nah
actually
im not gonna leave
ill just let more people join then leave to enjoy this bug with me
plucky flax
Look mum I'm famous.
upper sun
hollow current
thx, also did they nerf the stagger on the purg staff? I remember being able to ...
A while ago, yes iirc.
radiant frigate
it ok
rigid sky
Laspistol generally better
Infantry lasguns decent
Recon lasguns shit
They have bad Finesse values
radiant frigate
recon lasguns are generally xd
remote bloom
They're sad
radiant frigate
i wonder if the french would like the funny laser FAMAS
remote bloom
Let's not add french into the convo about recon lasguns
They're sad as it, no need to make it worse
buoyant maple
is lasgun any good for gunker?
Laspistol is ok, the others not so much
upper sun
i will not play lasguns on any class until they remove all recoil from them
HOW THE FUCK DOES AN ELECTRONIC MACHINE WITH NO MOVING PARTS HAVE RECOIL
EXPLAIN IT TO ME
buoyant maple
i will not play lasguns on any class until they remove all recoil from them
Laspistols don’t rly have recoil but ok
sonic raven
neither do recon lasguns
upper sun
Laspistols don’t rly have recoil but ok
says the person who plays them on vet with executioner stance
buoyant maple
says the person who plays them on vet with executioner stance
I don’t play exe stance
still hearth
They have spread, not recoil.
buoyant maple
They have spread, not recoil.
Hipfire spread? Yea
Aimed shots? Those don’t “spread”
upper sun
this seems like recoil to me
hollow current
The recoil is from jerking the trigger. 
buoyant maple
this seems like recoil to me
It’s also not a laspistol
upper sun
well
first of all
i said lasguns in my first message
second of all heres a laspistol
buoyant maple
And pretty sure the reason they added “recoil” to lasguns is because having recoil generally conveys the power of a weapon more than its raw stats
rigid sky
Infantry lasguns have recoil because the machine spirit has to remind you who's really in charge
upper sun
And pretty sure the reason they added “recoil” to lasguns is because having reco...
its because fatshark couldnt think of a 5th stat
buoyant maple
second of all heres a laspistol
Yea, ADS and see all the impact points be nearly identical on top of each other
upper sun
that one has 80 stability btw
buoyant maple
that one has 80 stability btw
There’s a difference between visual recoil and actual recoil
As far as I’m concerned if the actual shot grouping is on top of each other then it’s no recoil
radiant frigate
kantrael IV recoil 💀
upper sun
my cross hairs move and so does my gun
upper sun
I didn't realise they were catholic
thats funny i would have laughed if i wasnt emotionally recovering from spending an hour in loading screens to play one game
buoyant maple
its because fatshark couldnt think of a 5th stat
U mean “stability” roll? What would u do instead of stability
upper sun
i dunno i just dont think its very good gameplay to have idential guns handle differently and that stat is kinda harmful to people starting out and having to use guns with zero stability
dark stag
does this mean it just jumps to only one more enemy?
upper sun
does this mean it just jumps to only one more enemy?
sort of its not very impactful I cant post the image because a user here really likes talking about it
buoyant maple
i dunno i just dont think its very good gameplay to have idential guns handle di...
Tbf only guns where low stability actually makes them unplayable are the headhunter autoguns
upper sun
Tbf only guns where low stability actually makes them unplayable are the headhun...
maybe but a lot feel noticeably worse
buoyant maple
does this mean it just jumps to only one more enemy?
It doesn’t work the way u think it does and chains to way more enemies (but isn’t that noticeable unless you have a truly huge amount of enemies)
buoyant maple
maybe but a lot feel noticeably worse
I don’t think the visual recoil even changes based on “stability” roll
Stability changes the actual recoil’s size
dark stag
Oh wait so it lets me chain to way more but it's not very useful cuz there won't be that many enemies usually?
buoyant maple
Oh wait so it lets me chain to way more but it's not very useful cuz there won't...
Pretty much
I think someone spawned 120 enemies at once to test what the difference looks like and it’s noticeable there
dark stag
around how much enemies can normal smite stun?
hollow current
thats funny i would have laughed if i wasnt emotionally recovering from spending...
When you check the website to see if any good weapons dropped in the hourly and then this happens.
upper sun
I don’t think the visual recoil even changes based on “stability” roll
still effects how the gunplay feels
if the visual recoil is still the same but the cross hairs bounce all over the place it wouldnt feel good to use
upper sun
When you check the website to see if any good weapons dropped in the hourly and ...
eh i have at least 1-3 good copies of every weapon now i dont really care anymore im not gonna interact with the crafting system much until the rework is done
hollow current
I’d still check in and buy weapons if I could. But yeah. I kinda gave up on crafting too. May as well be the definition of diminishing return. Crafting in darktide.
untold niche
Tbf only guns where low stability actually makes them unplayable are the headhun...
i tried those once, actually not aimable smh
marble crater
I want high stability on all my guns for Xbox
upper sun
i want all guns to have all 80 stats
hollow current
You mean 100
upper sun
nah whatever the current max is
marble crater
I want my perfect stat trauma back that got bricked
plucky flax
Perfect trauma? It's impossibru.
rigid sky
Melk has this in store today for me lmao
plucky flax
Not bad.
rigid sky
This is my current one so I'll snap it up just for warp nexus
but which one should I actually use lol
I think the 370 is still better
but idk
rigid sky
but at least I finally have nexus 4
also lmao ds4
(although the finesse is poop so nvm that one)
plucky flax
Yeah way too low.
3 psykers monster maelstrom.
Oh boi we gonna have low monster damage.
marble crater
Perfect trauma? It's impossibru.
It had 80 damage, charge and blast; not sure about warp and quell, but also high, but bricked so 
marble crater
Make repeated BB stun monsters 
upper sun
Bring SG/DD/CIAG
raking fire dumdum ciag on a BoN
rigid sky
thing of beauty
rigid sky
just try to remember to reup your DD during the fight
upper sun
thing of beauty
I feel like everyone favers deathspitter and fire over raking idk why
plucky flax
two infinite loading screens today
I think I crashed cos a guy was spamming smite the whole game. 
upper sun
you have to be within melee range for deathspitter and firefrenzy to activate
upper sun
I think I crashed cos a guy was spamming smite the whole game. <:whatthefuck_her...
thanks riot games
rigid sky
since swapping to DS4 has made me a little happier fighting closerange crushers, maulers, ragers
compared with my old illisi
I used to just shoot them
but now I lobotomise them
upper sun
i swear psyker has better melee weapons than zealot
tacit thicket
Am i the only one that noticed this? https://youtu.be/vJwS8KASmB0?si=UO9r1D1tibU3ebIx
tacit thicket
i swear psyker has better melee weapons than zealot
It does
tacit thicket
Fr
rigid sky
If Zealot had force swords and duelling swords they'd be unstoppable
marble crater
If Zealot had duelling swords we would only see a blur
rigid sky
Duelling swords are already dumb as fuck with SG/DD
turns out they hordeclear quite fast if you can onetap any trash mob with light attacks
tacit thicket
Especially if you build up your peril and have the Warp Rider Talent then you become unstoppable
wind spruce
Especially if you build up your peril and have the Warp Rider Talent then you be...
Lol warp ride is barely relevant compared to all the other damage scaling.
upper sun
man yesterday i saw telo use DD on surge/assail/ds5 explode die then die again on stream then complain about the class being boring
I think people esp testers should only have opinions about classes they play
willow hazel
yeah idk I find psyker to be easily the most fun
but I do agree with telopots that the staffs are a bit boring. I almost never play with 3/4 of them
upper sun
kinda the auto attack and charge are fine
rigid sky
I still think the only one I don't like is surge
upper sun
but the bonk is stupid
rigid sky
just because it's such a basic bitch mechanically
upper sun
like why cant we have a unique special activation
ogryn gauntlet has a sick melee attack
willow hazel
yeah more diverse primaries and specials would be fun
upper sun
(also most ogryn ranged weapons apply heavy attack bleed on light attacks which is bullshit and broken)
willow hazel
I still think the only one I don't like is surge
surge is the only staff I use
upper sun
Press alt on void= rapid fire mode and charge becomes focus
press alt on surge= aoe .5sec stagger/stun that builds 60% peril
press alt on trauma= do 1 trillion damage because its a very weak staff
alt on purge= i have no idea
cinder moon
Press alt on void= rapid fire mode and charge becomes focus
press alt on surge= ...
i like the staff alt attacks, they just need a slight buff. i use them on occasion to finish off or stumble trash mobs when i don't want to generate peril or swap weapon
upper sun
i like the staff alt attacks, they just need a slight buff. i use them on occasi...
theyre sleeper op
one of the most stupidly high staggers
cinder moon
kinda dangerous to use them for stumbling elites/specials, but great for a bunch of bruisers etc
upper sun
man my zealot push attacks on most weapons cant even stagger ragers
marble crater
Why stagger ragers as a zealot when you can just face tank and kill them 
upper sun
because i dont have a revolver or a dclaw or a crusher
its so stupid that the best way to deal with ragers is just shooting them
rigid sky
I wouldn't say it's stupid
rigid sky
It's ok for there to be melee opponents that are particularly dangerous and resistant to melee
upper sun
they actually dont exist for me as a psyker
rigid sky
so the best move can be to shoot them dead before they can kill you
upper sun
i always thought ragers were trash mobs until i played zealot
marble crater
Blow them up or throw them around with trauma
upper sun
yea i just dont know what to do with them as zealot
marble crater
Evis mk15 and go ham
rigid sky
plucky flax
Use grenade shoot melee ult.
rigid sky
do that.
upper sun
https://images.app.goo.gl/DbnqnZDj8jf15vJW6
what the hell is gl
plucky flax
What melee weapon?
upper sun
evi 15
plucky flax
Shoot then for sure.
upper sun
i have more than one coming at me im fucked
rigid sky
It's what your Zarona's for
it's ok, your evis kills literally everything else
well, I mean you gotta work a bit to get a sniper with it
but you know what I mean
on my evis I usually hit chorus if there's multiple
but my evis build uses chorus which is kinda a minority pick
upper sun
yeah and then i walk away
rigid sky
your team hopefully deals with it
upper sun
so tru so tru
rigid sky
otherwise when it wears off, you can kill at least 2 of them
before they start to fight back
and you have 100 overtoughness to deal with them
so you can take some chips for free
upper sun
i was looting in smelter once and a pack of ~10+ came at me
blocked a bit then ulted
looted the last plasteel meleed a bit had until death then died
one jabed me in the back
we all died totally worth
radiant frigate
man my zealot push attacks on most weapons cant even stagger ragers
funny how the designated melee class has trouble dealing with ragers in melee
upper sun
funny how the designated melee class has trouble dealing with ragers in melee
its because theyre undodgable
maniacs and the fucking force fields around bulwark shields are the bane of my existance
radiant frigate
its because theyre undodgable
which made them extremely disorienting coming from vt2
upper sun
i bet its the same person that made terrifying barrage also gave them hit tracking
there is one imposter in the FS office
tacit thicket
Lol warp ride is barely relevant compared to all the other damage scaling.
Fr?
strong gulch
This is just sitting in Brunt's shop.
wind spruce
In the context of SG & DD it's not a huge difference
cinder moon
This is just sitting in Brunt's shop.
buy it
strong gulch
I did! 👍
strong gulch
But also I already have this. So I will just hoard it.
upper sun
I have something similar too id love an uncanny executor one
upper sun
i fucking hate hadron so much
that @broken lagoon stupid toaster will not stop giving me slaught on deimos and executor on illisi
strong gulch
She picks her favorite and then you get one combo. 😭
marble crater
Sad
Maybe Hadron will get promoted away with the crafting update and what's his name from the Carnival mission takes over
radiant frigate
But also I already have this. So I will just hoard it.
that is a very tasty deimos
tacit thicket
Yes...
Ok but why is not that relevant? Because for me it's really useful especially using the Purgatus Staff with the Scrier's Gaze it gets really powerful
radiant frigate
Ok but why is not that relevant? Because for me it's really useful especially us...
it is relevant
20% extra damage always more gooder
upper sun
this is the second time today
can we please roll back to 4 hotfixes ago when the game worked and the doors werent bugged
jovial juniper
yeah bring us KX8 hes a real one
So Cake is not a lie huh
opaque tendon
le wildfire and daemonhost has arrived 
rigid sky
Ok but why is not that relevant? Because for me it's really useful especially us...
Scrier's with a staff. You absolute lunatic. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
zealous pewter
i've actually tried that as well
it's not bad
i prefer purgatus+scrier's to venting shriek
i want to like venting shriek but it seems so mid to me
i don't get why it has less stagger than vet shout
spice veldt
ragers having undodgeable combos would be fine if the game didn't spam them in ridiculous amounts
calm sapphire
ragers having undodgeable combos would be fine if the game didn't spam them in r...
Rager spam is a death sentence for purgatus psykers if they get flanked by surprise
radiant frigate
rager spam is a death sentence for most things
radiant frigate
ragers having undodgeable combos would be fine if the game didn't spam them in r...
something something death will be sweet (but not for you)
i guess ragers can only be outspaced
calm sapphire
rager spam is a death sentence for most things
Eh smite surge psyker n trauma assail psyker can handle ragers spam ez with limited space
calm sapphire
i guess ragers can only be outspaced
It becomes a problem when they corner u indeed
radiant frigate
and you can't exactly block multiple ragers
well, with KD and a bunch of stamina maybe you can
calm sapphire
and you can't exactly block multiple ragers
U can definitely handle ragers ez if u go for devil claw cheese 🧀
radiant frigate
U can definitely handle ragers ez if u go for devil claw cheese 🧀
okay but then you're playing devil's claw
rigid sky
Force sword push is good against ragers
You can stall until somebody else cleans up
If they're all on you
upper sun
ragers legit dont exist to psykers
rigid sky
Surprise ragers instantly down you
radiant frigate
ragers legit dont exist to psykers
assail goes hehe
illisi dunks them fantastically
rigid sky
But if you know they're there and have the focus for them, you can deal with them
DS4 feels great on them too
radiant frigate
shriek also deals with them nicely
rigid sky
Deimos less so in my experience
upper sun
on psyker ive gotten downed from stealth maulers/flak brusiers more than ragers
zealot its either barrels/ragers most of the time
(vet dies to everything)
calm sapphire
(vet dies to everything)
Ogryns are literally unkillable in the right hands
upper sun
ill find a way dont tempt me
calm sapphire
The one class that can solo DH or other bosses with ez imo
upper sun
ogryn does have some bs tbh
like light attacks from some ranged weapons applying bleed
also built in single target momentum 7 blessing equivalent
calm sapphire
ogryn does have some bs tbh
Innate stagger potential is outright op when u can just cc elites out of the way when things go bad.
hard dragon
Does pick n mix require you to kill 4 different classes of elites
Like
Can you or can you not complete it by brainstorming 4 maulers
spice veldt
can be the same type (e.g., 4 gunners)
the description is just wrongfully specific
(unless they changed it last time that i did it a year ago)
cosmic sigil
like light attacks from some ranged weapons applying bleed
Every special melee attack from a ranged weapon is considered "Heavy". Thus it can apply bleed.
upper sun
Thats bs
also not on gauntlet
why should enemies get 200 stacks of bleed after getting slapped with a kickback with zero ammo twice in 1 second
ok well
im wrong gaunlet special yes but gaunlet melee m1 no
flint pawn
This quickly became my favorite melee weapon to use
It feels weird to use knife on Psyker but it's been by far the most dependable melee weapon I've used
hard dragon
can be the same type (e.g., 4 gunners)
the description is just wrongfully specif...
Ty
radiant frigate
It feels weird to use knife on Psyker but it's been by far the most dependable m...
it is weird
royal kettle
Need help decide in changing perk (I will change terrifying to flurry). Should I change carp to flak?
radiant frigate
but i am also the leader of a death cult so what does it matter what i find weird
remote bloom
yes
upper sun
Need help decide in changing perk (I will change terrifying to flurry). Should I...
unyielding helps you with reapers/bulwarks/bosses carap just with crushers
id replace carap
flint pawn
it *is* weird
I doubted it for a while, even though it's one of my favorite weapons
I just used the Illisi but at some point I realized I pretty much never use it, and I felt like my boss damage could've been better too, so my Unyielding + Lacerate knife was born
remote bloom
🤨
radiant frigate
i guess knife is good if you barely use your melee
may aswell have a mobility stick
remote bloom
toothpick*
radiant frigate
but also
flint pawn
Specifically for when it's aggroed on me, blocking off of Peril and the good movement makes holding aggro on bosses effortless even as an Auric regular
radiant frigate
you should engage in glorious melee combat... NOW ⚡
remote bloom
flint pawn
you should engage in glorious melee combat... NOW ⚡
Perchance
I'm sure I'll make myself a build for it when I'm ready to
For now I pretty much only use the staffs and brain rupture if I choose to run it
remote bloom
I'd highly encourage you to employ more melee combat to your game
flint pawn
I'd highly encourage you to employ more melee combat to your game
Don't get me wrong, I like the melee in this game
But if I'm craving melee, I'm gonna play Zealot or Ogryn
willow hazel
Just use staffs, brain burst, and melee
remote bloom
Zealot is a weird class for me
I only have 2 melees I sorta enjoy, but it's not exacily it
flint pawn
I almost never have a use for my melee even though I think Illisi was pretty strong? Not sure if that's changed since the last time I played?
The last I played this game before now was 6 or so months ago
remote bloom
Illsi still slaps
radiant frigate
if I'm craving melee i most certainly do not go to zealot or ogryn
flint pawn
Okay yeah, probably as good as I remember it being then
radiant frigate
illisi is fantastic yes
remote bloom
Slaughterer + Uncanny Strike goes nuts
cosmic sigil
ogryn melee is powerful but not that interesting tbh
flint pawn
ogryn melee is powerful but not that interesting tbh
Sometimes I want to play Auric with as little brain power as possible
radiant frigate
zealot makes me sad because the Designated Melee Class™️ struggles with ragers in melee
flint pawn
Sometimes I just wanna squash
cosmic sigil
Sometimes I want to play Auric with as little brain power as possible
true
radiant frigate
ogryn melee is entirely uninteresting
flint pawn
So I just use bull butcher + near immortal ogryn
remote bloom
zealot makes me sad because the Designated Melee Class™️ struggles with ragers i...
Unless you use the ew catachan sword
spice veldt
tbf even without ragers being spawned in ridiculous amounts, ragers are the designated anti-melee melee unit
cosmic sigil
zealot makes me sad because the Designated Melee Class™️ struggles with ragers i...
this is why i bring a claw, or throw knives, or h1 on my hsword
remote bloom
but then you're using catachan sword and any form of armor makes it bounce off the enemy
spice veldt
and you have the power of gun anyways against ragers
radiant frigate
Unless you use the ew catachan sword
i have seen someone oneshot a crusher with the riposte so maybe it isn't as much of a meme
spice veldt
prob with fury
cosmic sigil
but then you're using catachan sword and any form of armor makes it bounce off t...
a proper dclaw slaps
remote bloom
I have a huge distaste for dclaw
radiant frigate
a proper dclaw slaps
until you meet any kind of armor
cosmic sigil
with fury or a weakened crusher
radiant frigate
hi mauler hi crusher
cosmic sigil
i don't really have that problem
flint pawn
https://outplayed.tv/media/XKr6X7 Nothing quite like just being able to turn brain off
radiant frigate
i will now headshot you for 2 damage
cosmic sigil
just bring a ranged weapon to cover your weaknesses
having a do it all weapon is bad for the balance of the game
remote bloom
say that to plasma gun
cosmic sigil
and you can parrykill maulers
radiant frigate
plays melee class
looks inside
depends on gun
flint pawn
cosmic sigil
zealot is melee oriented
not pure melee class
otherwise you wouldn't have specific ranged talent
cosmic sigil
it's more an assault/close combat class
spice veldt
heaven forbid that the optimal play against certain enemies is the power of gun
can't believe they would do this to me in my melee(tm) class
what role adherence does to a mf
radiant frigate
heaven forbid the melee class can't outmelee the enemy melee
cosmic sigil
when i play bolter zealot, you need a psyker or a plasma vet to outdamage me lol
radiant frigate
but the Ranged™️ classes do
spice veldt
heaven forbid that there exists a melee unit whose very purpose is to encroach on your melee space
cosmic sigil
heaven forbid the melee class can't outmelee the enemy melee
ragers are just badly designed
spice veldt
that is a fairly clear design goal of the rager having unavoidable combos
radiant frigate
ragers are just badly designed
big agree
spice veldt
the unavoidable part i'm fine with though i'd rather dodges be weakened and blocking better
so that the gameplay is more normalized
cosmic sigil
agree
radiant frigate
unfortunately blocking still mostly sucks
cosmic sigil
because rn, it's just me see me shoot
remote bloom
You gotta love when game throws 393874 ragers to your specific location
spice veldt
instead of ragers being essentially this outlier of being the one enemy that you can't dodge
and blocking being very poopoo in this game
cosmic sigil
You gotta love when game throws 393874 ragers to your specific location
i like doing chill lot int damn to get my no death contract and bam 10 ragers
that's the entire rager population of the map in one place
radiant frigate
it's the one enemy you can't dodge and they come in packs so you can't block them either
cosmic sigil
and your parry can be eaten too
remote bloom
Berserkers in Vermintide are better designed than ragers
radiant frigate
especially scab
remote bloom
I find dreg ragers to be more annoying than scab ones
flint pawn
armored ragers
just keep punching
remote bloom
At least on Veteran
spice veldt
at least scab ragers are easier to stagger
radiant frigate
are they
spice veldt
ye
pop at them with a brauto and compare that with a dreg ragers
scab ragers will get staggered while they're alive, whereas dreg ragers usually just attack you until they die
radiant frigate
¯_(ツ)_/¯
remote bloom
Dreg Ragers are just, why
radiant frigate
ragers usually die to empowered sword stagger so i would legitimately not know about that
spice veldt
the good ol' days of spamming brauto vet
radiant frigate
and they both do this regardless of type
remote bloom
Power Sword keeps them in check, usually
radiant frigate
but this is good to know
radiant frigate
i wish zealot had better melee options
or perhaps i wish others had worse melee so zealot can shine more
remote bloom
First option sounds better
spice veldt
tankiness is more of his deal anyways
which implicitly incenvitizes being up close esp with the lack of ranged buffs besides anoint and some middle stuff
thorn cedar
'some middle stuff' you will refer to my SON by their NAME, thank you
spice veldt
i'm going to kick sainted gunslinger into a ditch
radiant frigate
so we have the tanky (stupid), the tanky (faith) and the squishy (martial) and the squishy (caster*)
is that it
spice veldt
is that referring to the 4 classes?
radiant frigate
yes
spice veldt
sure if you want to describe them in those terms i guess
radiant frigate
if tankiness is more zealot's thing then yes
though i can't truly call vet a martial if i can magically reload a revolver with heretic blood without physically putting a new round in
remote bloom
Trick of a Veteran Guardsman
spice veldt
if tankiness is more zealot's thing then yes
sure i don't mean that it's an all-encompassing description of zealot's identity
remote bloom
:)
spice veldt
i'm just saying that zealot has a bunch of powerful survivability stuff scattered around the tree
radiant frigate
15% toughness on dodge kinda spicy
spice veldt
i don't mean to imply that other classes aren't tanky
radiant frigate
50% tdr always if you crit kinda spicy
remote bloom
Vet can take a lot on his toughness
spice veldt
though i don't like vet's dodge stats
i always get fucked by playing him like psyker or zealot
radiant frigate
is this about damage multipliers
spice veldt
no
remote bloom
Other way around for me, I get obliterated on the other two
spice veldt
vet has a slightly longer cooldown on consecutive dodges
radiant frigate
never noticed
spice veldt
on the order of milliseconds but i play with my brain off so i rely on dodge spamming to stay alive
and that extra increase is enough for an overhead to catch me in between
radiant frigate
sounds extremely specific
spice veldt
spamming dodges is the core of what i do so i notice it when i get owned in-between my dodges
radiant frigate
i suppose i can't relate because i play vet and psyker pretty much the same way
difference is just true aim vs weapon spec having slightly different triggers
and uh
vet +100 toughness
remote bloom
261 toughness my beloved
radiant frigate
you must have some extra on curios that i don't
upper sun
iktfb
radiant frigate
has the templar been drinking?
marble crater
Thanks for nothing Sour Milk
upper sun
i got savage sweep on dclaw but i already have it just dont wanna earn it
fiery stratus
alright, i may have found a build i like
my build is probably garbo, but i basically went scriers gaze with smite, revolver and duelling sword
im just using gaze for revolver dump, and quelling with smite, trying to focus a little support too
wind spruce
my build is probably garbo, but i basically went scriers gaze with smite, revolv...
With two single target weapons you'd be better off with shriek or assail
wind spruce
im just using gaze for revolver dump, and quelling with smite, trying to focus a...
And you'd want to use scriers more for duelling sword than revolver
fiery stratus
yeah i was using it for melee as well. im using the mark 2 so it has a decent horde clear mix, i can 1 shot most elite gunners and whatnot in scriers gaze.
the way i have it set up too, its pretty quick with a decent bit of stamina so i can usually get around reasonably well
twilit flicker
merry musk
you should be able to target yourself with brain burst
patent jacinth
https://tenor.com/view/lasers-concert-lights-gif-5102526
We aren't there yet
That's what Illuminates will look like if their design stays close to original
obsidian ivy
How the blazes am I supposed to get this 300 seconds of full warp charge penance?
orchid shadow
How the blazes am I supposed to get this 300 seconds of full warp charge penance...
What difficulty are you trying it on and which map? Low intensity missions are harder as fights are shorter with more deadtime. Missions with a lot of airlocks will force you to drop stacks too.
cloud sequoia
How the blazes am I supposed to get this 300 seconds of full warp charge penance...
dont press your ult
get brain burst or assail + purgatus
just burn everything with purgatus
untold niche
on the order of milliseconds but i play with my brain off so i rely on dodge spa...
do you spam dodge so that you are alwayas x/x dodges? i.e. full amount of dodges
or spam until like x-2/x
hollow current
My own use of dodges is pretty excessive. I’ll routinely go -6 or -7/6
Tho once I feel the distance getting bad, I’ll try to let it reset.
obsidian ivy
What difficulty are you trying it on and which map? Low intensity missions are...
mostly damnatiuon since it spawns the most
radiant frigate
My own use of dodges is pretty excessive. I’ll routinely go -6 or -7/6 <:KEKW_og...
happens, which is fine as long as you live
spice veldt
do you spam dodge so that you are alwayas x/x dodges? i.e. full amount of dodges
depends but i usually just spam it until i can tell when i've hit my dodge limit
i don't really manage my dodges unless maulers/crushers are in play
plucky flax
i always get fucked by playing him like psyker or zealot
Need shovel.
obsidian ivy
just burn everything with purgatus
....
I can't believe I didn't think of purg and soulblaze
Thank you Sibling
radiant frigate
my assessment? should've done it before the talent tree update
potent echo
if i run out of dodges i just stand still and push until i have them back
hollow current
I do that too since kinetic deflection gives you so much breathing room. Just gotta make sure there’s no disablers overheads coming your way.
I don’t push tho unless I need space to move.
wind spruce
I don’t push tho unless I need space to move.
You should push to stop any attacks hitting you after your block goes down
potent echo
pushing still counts as you blocking too, might not be too valuable for FS psykers but on other classes with more stamina its great
rigid sky
+3 stamina curio and Kinetic Deflection adds a lot of effective block and push time
untold niche
pushing still counts as you blocking too, might not be too valuable for FS psyke...
i think even during PA its still block
near wyvern
pushing still counts as you blocking too, might not be too valuable for FS psyke...
Other classes with more stamina??? Psykers have almost infinite stamina for blocking and pushing
untold niche
Other classes with more stamina??? Psykers have almost infinite stamina for bloc...
not my vet that is destined to run 9x stam
and 3x stam regen
radiant frigate
not my vet that is destined to run 9x stam
fittest soldier in the imperial guard
potent echo
Other classes with more stamina??? Psykers have almost infinite stamina for bloc...
if someone hits you at zero stam and you dont bring the deflection talent your psyker goes woooooooooaaaaaaaah
rigid sky
I hate that I can't afford Kinetic deflection on my purgatus build
hollow current
You should push to stop any attacks hitting you after your block goes down
Ah yeah. I def do that once my dodges reset and it’s time to dance again.
rigid sky
But then again my purgatus build seems to only have to block if it gets monster aggro
potent echo
purgy should at least scoot over to the right to get +5% crit
radiant frigate
burgertus
resonance with purg? what for
doesn't purg already do good boss damage with all the soulblaze
untold niche
fittest soldier in the imperial guard
works for two builds too, my weapon spec build so i get to sprint more (and since toughness isn't really a concern)
And the highlight all elite + crit on stam drain thingy
rigid sky
resonance with purg? what for
Makes killing gunners etc less miserable
Helps on killing ogryn
Brain rupture unaugmented is just really sad
My trauma build uses EP and KR so going from that to neither feels like death
untold niche
EP should increase KR chance so its 30% chance nett so theres a reason to take KR
and lower the CD to like 7 seconds
affected by damage dealt so column doesn't get it every CD
wind spruce
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bbfb778-f4b0-4cd1-b3bb-b624bd...
Drop EE
wind spruce
No need to waste a point on it with trauma
untold niche
man was so serious he pulled out the fullstop
wind spruce
I can't read tonight
rigid sky
My trauma build is EP so I have points for days anyway lol
wind spruce
No sleepies 😦
plucky flax
No warp charges with trauma 
untold niche
im not saying don't run it because its not meta, just purely asking for my own interest:
Is EP in any meta build (beyond smite spam i guess)
one that i could think of is gunker with ep assail, but DD better right?
rigid sky
EP is great with brain rupture
And saves a bunch of points
I get a lot more toughness regeneration talents because I take EP
Blaze Trauma basically doesn't need any damage boost help, and I'm not as interested in the extreme CDR bonus from warp charges since I run Bubble with Trauma
And DD is obviously not the best on Trauma
But yeah gunker should generally be DD Assail imo
radiant frigate
EP should increase KR chance so its 30% chance nett so theres a reason to take K...
you mean, flayer
plucky flax
im not saying don't run it because its not meta, just purely asking for my own i...
Assail ep is meta
untold niche
you mean, flayer
ya
untold niche
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bbfb778-f4b0-4cd1-b3bb-b624bd...
doesnt trauma hit new bps with warp
untold niche
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9bbfb778-f4b0-4cd1-b3bb-b624bd...
what wep is this for? build edit says agri
rigid sky
doesnt trauma hit new bps with warp
Idk tbh. The Blaze finishes them off anyway, and they're on their arse so it's OK to take an extra hit
rigid sky
what wep is this for? build edit says agri
Deimos Trauma
I just rushed the talent build and didn't fill out the top parts
untold niche
Deimos Trauma
wh ynot change psychic leaching to wildfire
rigid sky
Deimos Blaze Trauma specifically
Oh I do have wildfire
I might have made a mistake
Let me check it
untold niche
Idk tbh. The Blaze finishes them off anyway, and they're on their arse so it's O...
i think it does
I prefer lower bps though so i can deal with other stuff earlier
untold niche
Let me check it
u still have 1 point left
rigid sky
Think that was it
I've iterated on it a few times
But having EP KR feels great
Your blitz is basically a single target plasma
untold niche
(i think psychic leaching, the purple node that give you toughness is a wack node. would prob be better if you took the TDR node after wilfire)
untold niche
Your blitz is basically a single target plasma
does it one shot rager?
rigid sky
does it one shot rager?
Under EP yes, or with some warp rider
From 0% unbuffed entirely, not quite
untold niche
dats cool
rigid sky
2 shot Crushers with EP on at least one of them
untold niche
also why puppet master, actually curious
I think even pygex say its good but i never felt it was mandatory
cause you took puppet master and didn't take solidity
i legit asking to gain new perspective
pls don't see it as uh confrontation
radiant frigate
I don't rate Solidity that highly
how do you feel about this
rigid sky
The puppet master and peril gen talents are just kinda dumped there
If you're getting good use from true aim, go for it
radiant frigate
no i mean as proposed changes
rigid sky
Don't sleep on peril gen to toughness btw
radiant frigate
(i do not believe in running shield)
rigid sky
It's weaker than Quietitude but it works when Quietitude doesnt
And psyker wants to maintain or regain full toughness all of the time
I like having the crit aura too, Blaze trauma can be a little unreliable in actually blazing
But the warp TDR thing might make it worth it
Empathic Evasion I would drop if it wasn't a travel node for me
Maybe
radiant frigate
ah right, trauma
rigid sky
Idk
rigid sky
But I feel like this is my strongest build on Psyker
Trauma has so much carry potential that you can afford to boost the rest of your kit through talents more
The body and the blitz parts
untold niche
i'll prob try this instead if/when i do get BT along with whatever agent is running
plucky flax
Blaze trauma need extra creeping flames spam to maximise it.
rigid sky
Yeah, looks solid. Maybe drop the peril generation node
plucky flax
Without creeping flames you do max 6 stacks.
untold niche
Yeah, looks solid. Maybe drop the peril generation node
its just yours without the PM and psychic leaching
plucky flax
Rather than 6 from trauma + 6.
rich spindle
i lov egetting stuck onblack loading screen
rigid sky
The Blaze is mostly for human sized enemies for me
I don't worry about it on monsters, I just rupture spam them
untold niche
do you rupture spam crushers
rigid sky
2 ruptures yeah, or I just kill them with the regular trauma damage or the deimos
Depends on what else is happening
rigid sky
Probably 12 ruptures lol
plucky flax
Trauma them then smack with sword.
untold niche
ok we cna't be friends anymore krag.
untold niche
rigid sky
Or Deimos dance 'em
untold niche
nothing hurt me more than reading this krag
Probably 12 ruptures lol
rigid sky
Bubble helps to eliminate the distractions
I mean if there's 6 crushers I hope I'm not the only one fighting them
untold niche
"I look at you with such disdain"
rigid sky
That's a team obstacle
untold niche
calling 6 crushers team obstacle
as psyker
you hurt me deeper than i can describe
rigid sky
But you'd be surprised how quickly you can rupture them down
Since killing one gives an EP stack
Brain Rupture with EP/KR goes from miserable to maniacal
rigid sky
It's OK, it's not like I'm a thousand sons sleeper agent or anything
untold niche
I went to Google and I don't get what thing
The rival primarch fused 1000s soldiers into their power armour instead of purifying them like he wanted to?
rigid sky
Idk I know nothing, just that TSons are the Tzeenchist psyker heavy chapter
upper sun
magnaus the bitch
rigid sky
The sum total of my 40k knowledge is DoW1's base campaign, Darktide and Tom&Ben
upper sun
i speed ran horus heresy and some other stuff on youtube
cosmic sigil
majorkill is a fun and digestible way to consume lore
then you can go to luetin and sandman
Mr Bones 40k is cool too
marble crater
How do you speed run a 70 hour playlist? Asking for a friend
upper sun
keep it on 24/7
marble crater
but I also need to like, sleep
upper sun
week has 168 hours -7*4 hours for sleep
140 hours is enough
simply cook/shower/work while you listen
plucky flax
Man just got an ogryn in team and he was proper roleplaying. His decision making was weird/dumb af.
upper sun
very based
marble crater
No Vet on the team to give orders to the ogryn?
plucky flax
The vet here got dogged right next to the ogryn but he was busy meleeing horde with his shield to just quickly kickbacc that dog away. I had to shoot from across the map to free the vet.
Also he's playing bleed shield but he ran away from all monsters.
marble crater
upper sun
lmao
plucky flax
Like bruh you got one of the best monster damage with bleed.
upper sun
my favorite thing to do as ogryn is ulting bosses into a corner then pressing alt
marble crater
Alt is the special?
upper sun
ye
marble crater
So reverse DH
upper sun
yeah pretty much
issue is my team usually ignores the bosses when i do that so i end up have to play the game 🙄
marble crater
same when I stand in a door and taunt all the shooters and gunners with my shield
untold niche
issue is my team usually ignores the bosses when i do that so i end up have to p...
sorry man, pubs taught me everyone wants to kill the boss
my boss damage comes from doing some burst dps and then going about my merry way
i only come bac kto melee boss if no stuff is spawning
imagine if you get some corruption healed each time you weakspot melee boss
plucky flax
RIP I try to make unyielding surge staff for monster damage but only get t3 nexus. :c
untold niche
i sense another 600k dockets and 3k plasteel
cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
The vet here got dogged right next to the ogryn but he was busy meleeing horde w...
this reminds me of the one time i had an ogryn that didn't res people with no threats remaining except for a bulwark
he instead opted for a shield bashing contest
untold niche
he instead opted for a shield bashing contest
dude this should be fucking pinned
my best ogryn one is te barrel story but i think all of you read it already
rigid sky
my best ogryn one is te barrel story but i think all of you read it already
Gooooo onnnnn
untold niche
btw i joined him halfway
because half i thought it was an achievement and half because i thought it was funny
plucky flax
700k in 25 mins not bad.
untold niche
trauma?
plucky flax
This is why EP assail is better than DD assail. 20 elites gone ez
plucky flax
Bruh
plucky flax
I don't use guns it's lame.
radiant frigate
i picked this class specifically to avoid using guns!!
guns are stupid and loud!!
untold niche
s o wats the bbuild agent
upper sun
fireball staff
plucky flax
Ep assail ds4 with rampage whatever staff. I was testing surge.
Mainly sword and assail.
marble crater
You need to enjoy blaze trauma more maybe
plucky flax
how come i not pro like agent
Spam assail more
I was testing unyielding surge that game. Got top monster damage
marble crater
I want to play assail, but I also want psykinetic aura
marble crater
I'm okay with that, then I would also use assail with trauma, maybe
marble crater
Acceptable for blaze trauma?
plucky flax
Remove middle node of ep and put it in soulstealer. Assail need soulstealer for toughness regen.
Also that middle node is very mediocre.
marble crater
Will do, thanks
wind spruce
This is why EP assail is better than DD assail. 20 elites gone ez
Except, no, it wasn't EP that made the difference
radiant frigate
Except, no, it wasn't EP that made the difference
what was. then
what made the difference if not a bazillion free casts
wind spruce
You shoot seven regular assails and only three Empowered ones in your first ten (6, 8 & 9) So those first few elite kills took longer than they would've with DD. At eight assails you've got shards in the air that will cause four gunners to die and you drop shriek. After that it's all EP casts, but everything's basically being cremated at that point from soulblaze. Only 17 assails are cast in total over the 12s of meaningful combat, meaning non-EP assail would only have been able to cast 16 in that time.
EP only really helped against the ragers towards the end, and it's difficult to say how different that would've been with DD up.
marble crater
DD seems like micro management, with hunting the marked targets, but I never played it
wind spruce
It's not at all micro management.
All you have to do is damage a blue target once every 30s. That's all the management that's required.
If it drops off, stab a few bruisers in the head between waves and you'll be at 15 stacks in no time.
marble crater
Damage? Is this another case of wrong tool tip? 
wind spruce
Yep, it doesn't tell you that you don't have to kill the target to refresh your stacks. You can refresh it with soulblaze lol
Running shriek with DD makes it much easier to keep up
Same with running voidstrike since it has so much penetration
wind spruce
what made the difference if not a bazillion free casts
Did my explanation make sense?
marble crater
Ah so damage to refresh stacks, but still kill to gain stacks
plucky flax
Why EP is better p2. 12 shotgunners ded
wind spruce
Why EP is better p2. 12 shotgunners ded
First four killed without EP, same compensation with soulblaze. Only real difference is you'd have needed to quell for longer, but more would've been dead at that point with DD.
wind spruce
No, you'd have killed more because of the ridiculous damage scaling.
hollow current
Question. Has anyone compared damage between 15 dd stacks with ep assail?
wind spruce
Seeing assail doing 450 damage headshots is so goober
hollow current
I’ve seen a few ep assail pyskers do amazing. But only a few.
Was fun to see tho.
wind spruce
Question. Has anyone compared damage between 15 dd stacks with ep assail?
You just compare them?
upper sun
I’ve seen a few ep assail pyskers do amazing. But only a few.
thats because you're taking their elite kills
plucky flax
No EP assail is beyond trash pls always run dd.
wind spruce
Go in the psykhanium, kill stuff, write down results like nerd
upper sun
DD doesnt work in psyk
hollow current
thats because you're taking their elite kills
Probably.
wind spruce
Use creature spawner to turn invisible off
hollow current
DD doesnt work in psyk
It does with a mod. You gotta turn off the invis.
wind spruce
No EP assail is beyond trash pls always run dd.
Cope
upper sun
we need to summon atlas for that
hollow current
Go in the psykhanium, kill stuff, write down results like nerd
I would but I’m away and can’t do shiz for another 2 months or so.
hollow current
Enjoy all your stacks gone at once. <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
dd works for my melee and ranged too tho. It’s a price I’m willing to pay. 
radiant frigate
Did my explanation make sense?
so you're saying it was overkill
plucky flax
Until they make dd behave like piety from zealot I'm not touching that poop.
radiant frigate
potentially
plucky flax
Don't you know overkill damage is the best stat on scoreboard.
radiant frigate
there is also zero guarantee to have 15 stacks of DD at mission start
which is where that clip was
upper sun
oh hey is that a crusher with 2hp? BETTER NUKE IT
marble crater
Krak bomb
plucky flax
Pro dd players always have 15 stacks at any given time.
Even against a lone monster.
upper sun
even after an elevator ride?
hollow current
even after an elevator ride?
Especially the ones where it takes that one teammate two minutes to get in.
wind spruce
so you're saying it was overkill
What I'm saying is that putting the pure murder in those clips down to EP is inaccurate
plucky flax
EP helps maintain your assail count.
So you can always spam it throughout the map as long as there are elites here and there.
wind spruce
Yeah, you wouldn't have had it avail for the full second clip without it
plucky flax
The first clip I killed 12 shotgunners 8 ragers and have 9 assails left available to continue to spam more for the next fight after dropping down the ledge.
wind spruce
Yeah, and you have a whole ranged weapon you're not utilising because you're built for full assail spam
Which there's nothing wrong with
plucky flax
My range is for unyielding only.
wind spruce
Lel
potent echo
Assail
radiant frigate
epic surge assail gaming
cinder moon
no assail, only smite
wind spruce
Hard to believe its been nerfed four times
cosmic sigil
Is it normal that 80% of my purgatus is lmb?
marble crater
Maybe, what do you do against hordes?
cosmic sigil
Lmb and a couple of uncanny stacks are enough
marble crater
You don't channel it into hordes?
cosmic sigil
I tend to use rmb against big targets or horde if it's far
Most of the time I am in the thick of it
And I find the lack of mobility dangerous
marble crater
Maybe a problem with positioning, if you start with rmb against the horde they won't even get to you, maybe throw in some lmb to stagger, but that should only be necessary against ragers and maulers. Even those melt to the channel though
cosmic sigil
Hmmm
wind spruce
And I find the lack of mobility dangerous
Are you dodge sliding while channelling?
tacit thicket
Scrier's with a staff. You absolute lunatic. I wish to subscribe to your newslet...
lol, Scrier's with Purgatus Staff absolutely melts flak armored enemies and do decent damage to carapace you should try it
wind spruce
lol, Scrier's with Purgatus Staff absolutely melts flak armored enemies and do d...
Doesn't scriers only increase the damage of the ticks by 10-40% depending on stacks, since it doesn't scale with finesse?
stuck sinew
Crits apply two stacks of soulblaze instead of one
wind spruce
Yeah, you'll get a 20% increase application rate
Well, less since you already have crit chance
wind spruce
Ok but why is not that relevant? Because for me it's really useful especially us...
It's just not a large amount of the damage increase in the context of the amount DD and scriers are already giving, not to mention perks, perfect timing, the 5% node, etc. It's still good, of course.
tacit thicket
Yeah
cosmic sigil
Are you dodge sliding while channelling?
Hmm nope
tacit thicket
Im not the best at detailed explanation about it but i found this very useful:
Build Concept:
Scrier's Gaze gives you +20% Crit Chance the moment you activate it.
Crit Chance is the best chance for "Soulblaze" stacks because every critical hit applies 2 stacks of soulblaze instead of just 1
To put it into perspective, +20% Crit Chance is equivalent to casting Purgatus with 80% Peril (or Higher) while having "Warp Nexus" Blessing on it.
So, in total you can get a total of 55% Crit Chance, accumulated from the following:
+20% Crit Chance from Scrier's Gaze
+20% Crit Chance from Warp Nexus
+5% Crit Chance from Staff Perk
+10% Crit Chance from Talent Passives / Auras
On top of that, you get the following Damage Multipliers:
+5% Damage from Talent Passives
up to +20% Damage from Warp Rider for keeping your Peril High
up to +30% Damage from Scrier's Gaze stacks if you manage your peril properly
up to +24% BASE Damage from Warp Siphon Charges (6 x 4%)
BASE damage is the best stat because it is multiplicative to all other damage multipliers; In other words your final damage will be calculated like this:
(Base Weapon damage) X(Base Damage Modifiers) X (All other Damage Modifiers)
People should give a try and test at the Mealstrom with Mostly Meele enemies + Scab Faction Only
upper sun
lol, Scrier's with Purgatus Staff absolutely melts flak armored enemies and do d...
purg wouldnt do much to carap without uncanny
wind spruce
Hmm nope
It's your best source of mobility while channelling. Backwards is easiest, but you can also whip your pov around and dodge-slide left or right in any direction then whip it back
untold niche
You can also do sprint slide - quell
i do that for gunners
once you quell a tick you can charge
then stand up and let go
terse saffron
will that be better than columnus 5 on gunker at 15+ range or nah
radiant frigate
will that be better than columnus 5 on gunker at 15+ range or nah
i would honestly advise against kantrael XII
i liked it a lot at release because it dealt with shooters nicely but it is not really required anymore
untold niche
purg wouldnt do much to carap without uncanny
i don't play purg so imma ask you
Isn't the burn stat more important than base damage anyway
radiant frigate
if you're going to use a lasgun i recommend Ia
upper sun
i don't play purg so imma ask you
Isn't the burn stat more important than base d...
yes
damage is only like effects the little love tap lmb gives
terse saffron
that emperor's gift will have to wait until shared armory then, thanks
untold niche
whos the guy that runs gaze purg, @ boodendorf right?
upper sun
idk
upper sun
i feel like if i ever use a staff with gaze i would just keep quelling 24/7
wind spruce
The wall of text is a good breakdown of the damage bonuses
untold niche
The wall of text is a good breakdown of the damage bonuses
yeah but the advice is not practical right?
He claimed base damage most important
At least in context of purg
wind spruce
i feel like if i ever use a staff with gaze i would just keep quelling 24/7
Yeah, I don't understand how one gets a good amount of time actually in scriers
wind spruce
yeah but the advice is not practical right?
He claimed base damage most importan...
Yeah I agree, I almost added that it's not really practical advice
Base damage is important
He doesn't mean the damage weapon stat though
untold niche
what i hate about darktide reddit / youtube is that they will imply / just straight up say if you don't do good its because you are unskilled
meanwhile im here trying to convince people its a build problem...
untold niche
He doesn't mean the damage weapon stat though
oh what did he mean
wind spruce
I think just the base damage of the soulblaze ticks
untold niche
but its not like you can change the base damage of SB right?
upper sun
20% extra on damage is only like +5 exta on lmb
wind spruce
Fair play
untold niche
what i hate about darktide reddit / youtube is that they will imply / just strai...
but yeah mainly this dude ^
that wall of text even told him to go a5mael:scab only
wind spruce
I feel like scriers is going to end too quickly
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I feel like scriers is going to end too quickly
end because while quelling for 5 seconds he got OH-ed
gaze purg is actually like vaping dude
gotta suck for 5 seconds just to have a momment of pleasure
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what i hate about darktide reddit / youtube is that they will imply / just strai...
Correct build definitely helps but if you push your skills up, at some point you can do well even with a poor build. That being said if you are going to solo carry build still matters at auric damnation and auric maelstroms.
radiant frigate
what i hate about darktide reddit / youtube is that they will imply / just strai...
it is 100% a build problem
if your setup is wrong enough you will do absolutely nothing
upper sun
if your setup is wrong enough you will do absolutely nothing
that depends on how wrong it is
radiant frigate
that depends on *how* wrong it is
knife surge brain burst scrier psyker
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Correct build definitely helps but if you push your skills up, at some point you...
pygex, im not skilled, i can't solo clutch like you guys, i don't have good positioning like you guys
But i know for sure my consistent 5 yellows on my void psyker surely isn't majority due to my "skill"
radiant frigate
pygex, im not skilled, i can't solo clutch like you guys, i don't have good posi...
Real
wind spruce
knife surge brain burst scrier psyker
Or devil's claw
radiant frigate
i do not consider myself tremendously skilled
the reason i walk away with Yellow Numbers™ is because build is busted
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all i have to do is stand still and shoot void, and VS
then boom 6 crushers gone
no skill involved
the only skill is not running away when crusher going to OH me
wind spruce
I am the only good player(tm)
radiant frigate
Or devil's claw <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
that might actually be slightly less agonizing, since surge and bb can cover the abysmal armor damage
and dclaw actually has some horde clear
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no skill involved
the only skill is not running away when crusher going to OH me
to me the real skill in DT is what you, arco and the rest doing whereby you think up of all the theorycrafting and test them out and find out why certain things are good @near wyvern
doing yellows isn't much skill as much as im happy about it
wind spruce
that might actually be slightly less agonizing, since surge and bb can cover the...
My favourite part of taxe las pistol gunker is no carapace damage
radiant frigate
i simply made my own setup, the only contribution from psyker chat to it has been the addition of DD 
near wyvern
pygex, im not skilled, i can't solo clutch like you guys, i don't have good posi...
I always recommend running META builds if one is new to damnation and above, just for the simple reason of it helping a lot
radiant frigate
which admittedly has been somewhat helpful
and the 3stam nonsense which i am uncertain how to quantify
i guess it makes movement more comfortable for the most part
and makes resses a bit safer
thorn cedar
what the heck is doing yellows
radiant frigate
or boss block
radiant frigate
what the heck is doing yellows
big number
wind spruce
i guess it makes movement more comfortable for the most part
That's my #1 reason to use it
thorn cedar
number of what
wind spruce
So I don't get irritated by running out of stam sprinting for 0.5s
thorn cedar
oh scoreboard
thorn cedar
you guys are talking scoreboards
near wyvern
Getting yellows is a bit awful metric cause it mostly depends on your team mates. If you have bad team mates running non-optimal builds it's easy to get yellows with a crappy build.
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I always recommend running META builds if one is new to damnation and above, jus...
like theres no actual way im going to survive a5histg on my zealot if i ran critspam caxe
No matter how hard i try :v
basically does nothing
radiant frigate
Getting yellows is a bit awful metric cause it mostly depends on your team mates...
yeah but there is a difference between "getting yellows" and "literally doubling everyone else's damage"
or doing more than the rest of your team combined, heaven forbid
i am glad that is a rare sight
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or doing more than the rest of your team combined, heaven forbid
Been there done that
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Getting yellows is a bit awful metric cause it mostly depends on your team mates...
I see your point but on my void psyker i consistently get 5 yellows
like game after game
Not on zealot tho, on zealot if theres a vet i would be happy to get even three
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i have been trying to get into zealot
you need to realize you need to use your gun even though using it might not be fun.
radiant frigate
today i have decided to drop the class for good
radiant frigate
you need to realize you need to use your gun even though using it might not be f...
i am using it
upper sun
it was unsuccessful
just go evi15 chorus ciag its pretty much tank vet
thorn cedar
equip evis. run into the enemy. left click.
radiant frigate
to annoy gunners or trappers
upper sun
equip evis. run into the enemy. left click.
M1 warriors unite
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need to use gun to take out some ragers/crushers first
And kill trapper, not jsut annoy
gunner you can just suppress yeah
thorn cedar
throwing knives solve everything
upper sun
supress gunners then run upto them
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zealot very hard to solo carry on melee alone unless you running crusher wep
even then not so easy i feel :v
thorn cedar
imagine having to take out and cast a psychic knife lmao weak
i throw blades as the god emperor intended
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i defo can' solo carry on my zealot that well, very sad
thorn cedar
but also zealot is absolutely the best clutch class
upper sun
i defo can' solo carry on my zealot that well, very sad
my solo carry as zealot is running away to rescue people
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i like my stealth build alot
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i just find zealot unsatisfying
go critspam build with crusher weapon
radiant frigate
why crusher
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can aoe knockback
radiant frigate
does it kill things
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yep
upper sun
yes
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iirc you can 2 tap the crusher enemy
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the PA has insane headshot damage
upper sun
iirc you can 2 tap the crusher enemy
idk about that