psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

Look up the dodge distance on the mk5

It's just randomly juiced and you can outrun things you aren't really supposed to on no stam

[wind spruce]

Ok best out of the mk2 and mk4

[vestal fulcrum]

I see your point, albeit I'd rather that than live in the world where Mk4 is the indesputable king of DS's, unless you intentionally gimp pick the "inferior" option for gameplay variety reasons

[upper sun]

idk if my dodge is gonna be that good

[vestal fulcrum]

Mk5 at least has some merit - Mk2 is just left in the dust IMO, but maybe there is something relevant with it I'm not seeing

But I'm definintely not taking a DS to kill hordes with it, and that's what Mk2 is supposed to be "good" at

[wind spruce]

Well, yeah, because it would just be a straight upgrade by essentially giving the current mk4 an extra move that is in a currently redundant spot

[upper sun]

jesus fucking christ +6.1% on a 61 mobility

[lethal lagoon]

Look at the actual number

[upper sun]

yeah this is kinda crazy

[vestal fulcrum]

But Mk4 would still retain the convenience of looping stabs of its heavies - it's a quality, if anything else, rather than doing some silly swap cancel to dish out the most out of the supposed Mk2's "strongest stab", if my version ever made it live

[upper sun]

thats not an actual dodge thats a stumble backwards down a flight of stairs

[lethal lagoon]

+15% dodge distance

[upper sun]

doesnt matter mauler overhead is still hit tracking ur ass

[lethal lagoon]

you underestimate my drunken pirate power

[wind spruce]

You don't need to swap cancel though you can use the special

[upper sun]

damn now i wanna build that shit

[vestal fulcrum]

I suppose you're right (re: special cancel/chain, not the entire argument )

[upper sun]

whats a good ranged weapon for the drunken pirate

[lethal lagoon]

ds revolver is the goated pirate classic

But for an actual drunken pirate, probably Surge lmao

[lyric burrow]

Honestly i just loop special h1

On ds2

Esp with how fast you can chain them

[fiery stratus]

yep psyker isnt for me, managing peril takes all the fun away

[radiant frigate]

to each their own i suppose

[upper sun]

deimos with looping H2s 🥰

[vestal fulcrum]

I wonder what the difference in damage output would be between the two if Mk2 used H1 into special and Ds4 casually chained heavies

[radiant frigate]

psyker is one of two playable classes for me

[vestal fulcrum]

Mk4 would still probably win, because it has obscene damage on its heavies, but still, I'd be fancy knowing

[lethal lagoon]

I mean, you don't have to manage peril.

[lyric burrow]

Mk4 clears

Mk4 inherently has 40% more damage

Around 40% iirc

Actually is it 20 or 40 im confusing myself now

[fiery stratus]

welp the way im playing psyker feels like terrible zealot, so its pointless

[lethal lagoon]

Okay go to zealot channel

[vestal fulcrum]

The calc shows, at least on raw non-crit/ws damage, a 30% difference in unarmoured damage numbers

[upper sun]

NOOOOOOO

[upper sun]

Thats a fate worse than death

[radiant frigate]

i went to zealot chat once

[lyric burrow]

Very sad for ds2

[radiant frigate]

i do not think i will be going there again

[lethal lagoon]

I'm already Undead.

[halcyon gust]

Zealots are weird

[vestal fulcrum]

(I've edited the previous message more times than I should have )

[radiant frigate]

all i got was a very weird conversation about how evis XV is bad actually

and bolter is a high skill weapon

[lyric burrow]

Tbf i forget if ds2 and 4 have an adm of 1 into unarmored on heavy 1

[upper sun]

bolter is a high skill weapon because you need to press F to make it switch faster

its veri hard not everyone can do it

[radiant frigate]

idk

zealot feels incredibly braindead

[upper sun]

nah ive seen plenty of zealots do MAGIC

usually the wounds/momentum guys

[halcyon gust]

Zealots are either the first or last to die in a squad

[fiery stratus]

psyker melee is the only thing i really wanna do, and it just feels so underwhelming and squishy

[radiant frigate]

i've seen them do magic where they make daemonhosts disappear

[vestal fulcrum]

Truth be told Zealot is indeed fairly braindead

[upper sun]

you're just too used to tanking 4 sniper shots

[fiery stratus]

i dont get hit

[vestal fulcrum]

Psyker is the class that has the least amount of tools to stay alive by themselves

[radiant frigate]

m1 m1 m1 F m1 m1 m1 m1

horde dead

profit

[halcyon gust]

Being fair. Psyker has 0 melee skills unlike Vet, Zealots, and Ogryns

[fiery stratus]

if i get hit most of the time i go down

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, glass cannon

But we have lots of tools to stop that

[radiant frigate]

i always say psyker is not so glassy

and then i play another class

and i'm like

ok i get why people think that

[upper sun]

for example no way a psyker can survive this

[fiery stratus]

but it doesnt feel tanky or evady

[lethal lagoon]

You have infinite block lmao

[upper sun]

but at the same time a psyker can use assail and kill snipers safely

[plucky flax]

Big block and deflector.

[radiant frigate]

deflector 🤢

[lethal lagoon]

🤮

[plucky flax]

Just simply don't take damage.

[fiery stratus]

psyker is also sluggish af

[radiant frigate]

sluggish?

[fiery stratus]

feels like it

[radiant frigate]

that is a first

[halcyon gust]

It's just that if Psyker is in a bad spot. They going down either by the horde or blowing themselves up

[lethal lagoon]

Okay, time to stop feeding the troll

[halcyon gust]

It's always a reality check when I go play my Psyker from Vet or Ogryn

[lethal lagoon]

Not like psyker has the fastest stamina regen and can be built to zoom so fast people will think you have hacks on.(literally)

[radiant frigate]

bolt of greased lightning reported to be "sluggish", witnesses say

[fiery stratus]

its a reality check the the character is underttuned?

[plucky flax]

Psyker? I hardly know her.

[lethal lagoon]

See, I told you, troll

[plucky flax]

Pls just buff psyker.

[upper sun]

:thonk"

[halcyon gust]

Or that. I can't play as stupid as I could as Pysker compare to the other 2

[plucky flax]

I literally do 0 damage all games.

[radiant frigate]

psyker so undertuned that we double everyone else's damage

[upper sun]

its true i had to carry him

[radiant frigate]

except kickback ogryn

[lethal lagoon]

I literally had to carry you with my lvl 6 when we did auric mael strom duos.

Smh

[plucky flax]

[radiant frigate]

show us some sedition gameplay

[upper sun]

had one game with a kickback ogryn and a truama psyker and i legit could not find enemies to fight

[plucky flax]

Yeah but guns use ammo.

Psyker is just free.

[fiery stratus]

imagine using guns

imagine not being able to fend for yourself with melee

[plucky flax]

I can't imagine.

Me bren smooth.

[radiant frigate]

the troll is saying something wisdomous actually

[fiery stratus]

i'm not trolling, peril is very annoying

[lethal lagoon]

Thats right, d4 isn't the strongest melee weapon in the game, it's actually pure shit.

Buff plz

Illy has shit horde clear

buff plz

[fiery stratus]

psyker does good damage, but is like paper compared to every other character

[upper sun]

you're clearly not very good at edging

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Step bro

[lethal lagoon]

Step bro, I'm stuck in the warp

[fiery stratus]

the only thing psyker does well defensively is holding things in place

oh and shield

[upper sun]

🤔

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

My trauma staff disagrees

[radiant frigate]

shield

[fiery stratus]

bubble shield?

[radiant frigate]

trap ability

[fiery stratus]

i mean it does work

[upper sun]

i only use shield with purge tbh

[radiant frigate]

bait

[lyric burrow]

shield is good although i dont use it

i prefer double wall when i do tho

[upper sun]

wall is fantastic for dogs

[lyric burrow]

wall is just more interesting to me

[fiery stratus]

IDK

caps

i guess i mostly just like melee mostly, and psyker is just extra steps

[lyric burrow]

i do think psyker can do melee very well but yeah you are punished much harder for getting hit

you have p good mobility/toughnessg gen/damage to help but

its still a learning curve

[plucky flax]

Just play zealot for ez melee gaming.

[radiant frigate]

zealot makes me snooze

[fiery stratus]

i have a lot of hours in all the other characters, thats why i was trying psyker

[lyric burrow]

i enjoy zealot a lot although ive been on a huge psyker binge recently

like 200 levels of just psyker

[fiery stratus]

my zealot isnt far behindf

[plucky flax]

Good damage split by me between melee range and soulblaze
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1210700312046731304/image.png?ex=6619a808&is=66073308&hm=07a37477f8467f5c52006c5f5bae5c93e63bf4976615640960ba933b83ce8e7d&

Well kills split more like

[upper sun]

thats clearly photoshoped

you can see it by the pixels

[plucky flax]

Tru psyker can't melee obviously nor do any damage

[lethal lagoon]

This is actual psyker gameplay

I'm so tired of people lying

THIS IS THE TRUTH, psykers suck.

[plucky flax]

Pls buff

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

better yet please delete psykers from the game

delete every class other than vet

[lethal lagoon]

add robot enemies to the game after that

Make us enter missions from the sky instead of ground

[upper sun]

remove melee too

[lethal lagoon]

Nah keep melee, but make it a simple one attack

[plucky flax]

Helldivers to hell pods.

[jovial juniper]

Disgusting

[upper sun]

yeah even better

[plucky flax]

I go

[upper sun]

oh got quick play sent me to the hab

gn

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Gonna dream about psyker buff since this class is so bad

[hexed geyser]

Can i save this thing from melk? I'm not used to trauma

[fiery stratus]

are yout elling me someone with hundreds of hours can be sucessful on their cahracter

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think that's worth melk bucks unless you have a ton.

Melk is typically for grabbing tier 4 blessings you need.

Terrible barrage is of course terrble.

[hexed geyser]

Well obviously but if i keep range damage and nexus, is it good enough?

[lethal lagoon]

As I said not worth the melk bucks.

But I guess you can pop a blazing spirit and a 25% flak damage on it

[calm sapphire]

salvagable if u switch barrage with soul blaze and stam with flak dmg

[lethal lagoon]

^

But is that worth like 3k melkies?

Only if you have a ton

Or reallly wanna blaze trauma NOW

[hexed geyser]

Ok thanks i'll see later before the weapon switch

[fiery stratus]

im gonna try a duelling sword build, then i think if i dont like that, psyker isnt for me

[hexed geyser]

What about a staff build?

[half iron]

gun

[hexed geyser]

Oh i'm playing ds4 and columnus right now and it's fun. But the psyker experience come from surge voidstrike and trauma imo

[fiery stratus]

i dont really use guns, and the staves are good but boring imo

[marble crater]

Heretic

[marble crater]

For which staff?

[half iron]

i’ve been playing knife psyker, with the amongus infantry autogun

[strong gulch]

You can use trauma to set up your melee or give yourself stabbing room.

That's my preferred melee focused option but with a staff.

[half iron]

the staff you pick decides your spells

[radiant frigate]

trauma kind of treads on melee territory

so does purgatus

therefore i stick to voidstrike and surge

mostly voidstrike

[rigid sky]

Joke's on you, my trauma psyker is mostly spamming resonance/EP brain ruptures at gunners

[zinc phoenix]

Which staves have you tried oh master baiter?

[zinc phoenix]

Imagining needing to melee anything other than greenies as a trauma psyker 😂

I’m tempted to create a low percentage shout of “begone thot” for when I play trauma

[fiery stratus]

i've used them all, all i've really wanted to do was just melee focus, but psyker doesn't seem very good for it

[marble crater]

Psyker dies to a gust of wind if you don't pay attention, not the best in melee

[fiery stratus]

thats not my issue generally, its peril and over loading with assail and shit

and the blaze charge

just an annoying mechanic

[primal plume]

What the hell is conjuring a blizzard in my pc

[fiery stratus]

does that say 12 degrees or 120

the pc is on fire

[marble crater]

Are you using venting shriek?

[fiery stratus]

nah everyone kept recommending scriars because of damage

[marble crater]

For gun yes

[fiery stratus]

idk

[upper sun]

what staff do you actually want to use?

[fiery stratus]

i dont really care for any of them tbh

[marble crater]

I started with Purgatus to get a feel for peril, it's the hardest to explode with

[upper sun]

🤔

are you sure you dont just wanna play vet

[fiery stratus]

i have hundreds of hours in every other character

[marble crater]

Maybe Psyker is just not for you then and that's okay

[fiery stratus]

well, i really like psykers melees, i just dont like anything else

[marble crater]

The only class without any melee talents

[fiery stratus]

yup, and its a damn shame the swords are so good

[untold niche]

For peril, the only "real" thing you can do is take note of hoe much peril you generate per shot ( of assail or staff or whatever)

Like for me I know from 80% I can do two half charge of void or one full charge. And I need from 100-80 is about 2 ticks of quelling

[wet belfry]

Just play gun psyker by that point anyways

You dont want to manage peril and you want to play pretty melee focused

[untold niche]

You have to internalise it as how many "blocks" of peril you can do per action instead of seeing it purely as a range

[marble crater]

If you are not at 80% peril the majority of the mission and hear voices all the time, are you even playing psyker?

[upper sun]

play gunker and be at 100% peril all game

[untold niche]

And before every peril generating action, take a peek at your peril so you stop yourself from going over 100

[upper sun]

(alt attacks with laspistol works great for peril gooning)

[marble crater]

I really should try gunker and see if I like it more than playing vet, maybe I don't have to play vet ever again

[fiery stratus]

well, what should i use other than columnus, not a fan

[marble crater]

Revolver?

[fiery stratus]

generally what i use, probably have to grind for anything else

not sure what else is on my psyker

[wet belfry]

laspistol?

[fiery stratus]

mk2 is p good

[wet belfry]

I have a slightly hard time beliveing that revolver synergizes to well with scriers gaze, disrupt destiny.

[fiery stratus]

it doesn't really

[wet belfry]

it might get some good breakpoints but it already has great breakpoints without the two.

[ornate hamlet]

I use scrier's gaze for funny melee damage and revolver for getting ez disrupt destiny kills through hordes

[fiery stratus]

idk, maybe ill do duelling sword and revolver

[ornate hamlet]

Based

[rich spindle]

I guess revolver breakpoints would only be against crusher and mauler

maybe 1 shotting reapers and bulwarks

[fiery stratus]

thats fine, i normally just stab things in the brain until it dies anyway

[rich spindle]

DS and revolver would be a pain in the ass to keep horde off you

[fiery stratus]

mmm

smite it is

[ornate hamlet]

Dueling sword with rampage does funny horde damage

Well, riposte too

It's the funny combo

[fiery stratus]

i think my mk2 has uncanny ripose?>

cant remember

im not in game atm

[ornate hamlet]

I changed out of uncanny strike as a little experiment and it was surprisingly similar

Granted nearly every instance of me poking big shit was without stacks

So it kinda ended up being pretty much for bosses and hopefully critting

[rich spindle]

uncanny is good for small attacks and dots

DS poke headshots kinda kills everything fast anyway

[potent echo]

Owo devblog

[ornate hamlet]

uwu

[rapid spindle]

I just got my uncle the game and he picked psyker. I dont wanna overwhelm him with endgame knowledge but I wanna make his time easier since psyker was the hardest for me to use at the start. Anything of note I should tell him?

[ornate hamlet]

Staff modifiers are kind of ass at the start

[fluid skiff]

probably that the peril yo-yo is a dangerous one

[ornate hamlet]

I guess some basic gameplay stuff is "dodge sideways" and "sprint slide or sprint diagonal to avoid ranged fire"

And abuse pushing because psyker has the lowest regen delay

[fluid skiff]

practice being cautious with peril levels when using blitz or staff essentially

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah

And using things like the purgatus RMB works when hitting 100% peril if you left-click before it's at 100%

The idea is you can't start an attack at 100%

[fluid skiff]

Going down the middle of the talent tree all the way is decent as a start. Smite is the safest blitz to use once he gets there.

[ornate hamlet]

Assail with piercing and cooldown very poggerful

[potent echo]

Starting a new player with smite

I guess at lower difficulty it actually kills things

[dusk void]

Game froze for anyone?

[wind spruce]

Recommending smite to a new player is so unhelpful

"Here, use this ability that completely eliminates your ability to learn any of the mechanics that will make you better as a player"

[wind spruce]

• emphasise dodging a lot and teach him how to dodge-slide
• emphasise blocking and pushing
• tell him to try different weapons
• tell him activating a warp attack at 100% peril will blow your head off, but do not say to avoid doing this at all costs. Blowing up a lot is part of the learning curve. If you aren't blowing up you aren't getting better
• teach him how different specials work
• avoid smite
• dodging and dodge sliding again.

[potent echo]

Casual players won't want to do all that though, because star wars meme haha

[ornate hamlet]

Smite has god-tier support potential and so many people just use it as a cheap way to play the entire game

The swap to smite and the funny LMB shock is nearly instant

And it'll stun most enemies in the game

No stagger buildup, nothing

You tap the button and the trapper's completely locked down

Smite quickswap is probably one of the most underused and yet greatest forms of CC in the game

[potent echo]

Counterpoint, any staff lmb

[ornate hamlet]

It's not some magic massive AoE stunlock like the RMB, but the sheer speed of it makes it so good

[formal hill]

Counter point, vet plasma PS is the best class in the game

[calm sapphire]

Underused cause it's gets boring after awhile plus only I use smite for situations that get out of control.

Anyway it's always more fun to actually learn how to deal with specials without using some op crutch tool like smite.

[ornate hamlet]

Everything gets boring after a while

[formal hill]

Well I mean, that's the nature of the game ATM, it's the tower defense objectives imo

[calm sapphire]

That's why I'm playing helldivers 2

[formal hill]

That's called Democracy

Freedom never rests

[crude vortex]

Let's play video games for fun

[formal hill]

No

[crude vortex]

Do you wanna hold hands now ...

😳

[formal hill]

mewing

[crude vortex]

🫴 join me...

[ornate hamlet]

There isn't enough unsee juice to unsee this helmet-clipping mullet. This is not my hairstyle.

[limber silo]

Damn, I'm kinda sad seeing that most of the people I'd talk to here are here atm, this game really bleed players waiting for the update

Then again, it's not like there's much to talk about

[plucky flax]

Well and alive live service game.

[lethal lagoon]

Counterpoint, use literally anything else.

[ornate hamlet]

your mom

[lethal lagoon]

Counterpoint, not even my mom would use smite lmb.

[ornate hamlet]

oh

she plays Vermintide

[lethal lagoon]

You take that back

[cosmic sigil]

ngl i like the new psyker drip

[untold niche]

i don't get the use for lmb though, it only lasts for a while and it seems to be single target?

or at least

has way less spread

way too slow

[vestal fulcrum]

The main use for it is quick disruption

Of a single enemy

A dog, a burster, a crusher pinning your teammate in a corner

I wish it had dealt more single target damage on prolonged use

[untold niche]

but thats assuming you have clear LOS else it would smite the enemy closest to you right

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah. I don’t know what dictates the target acquisition on this thing other than proximity and approximate distance of your crosshair to intended target, but ideally there shouldn’t be any enemies near your intended target

But you can very easily disrupt the enemies I have mentioned, as long as they don’t venture with a horde of enemies

[untold niche]

i can't think of any builds where smite lmb woul be useful >.>

[vestal fulcrum]

Its use is not warranted by build, so what gives?

[stone canyon]

Everyone always told me to not use smite as its noob trap

And now you tell me there is different modes to it?

Ive always just pressed LMB and it has sparked around some... whats the best way to actually use it in panic situation?

[urban sandal]

charge it up first

that's really the only way you should be using it

[potent echo]

Doesn't change the fact that it is a noob trap

[untold niche]

as in searching for a practical use for it so i can incorporate it in my game

[lapis violet]

how is it a noob trap? if it allows people to not be as good then its just a good ability to use

eg ciag, plasma, power swords

[radiant frigate]

i wouldn't really put columbus and plasma on the same list

it's a noob trap for those who use it exclusively instead of actually killing heretics

[lapis violet]

sure if you put it that way. but if you know there's dudes who'd love to kill things and need help with enemies, say a voidstrike psyker, a non-hammer non-knife non-stun zealot facing bulwarks, knife zealots and vets facing big hordes

you do a zap zap for a bit while they deal with it and then you're able to deal with big guys, or other big guys

[radiant frigate]

i guess it is setup dependent

[plucky flax]

Everyone who? Just use whatever you want.

[radiant frigate]

i just know that i wouldn't use it in any build really

[lapis violet]

i wouldn't use it with purgation for example, or trauma, but surge staff with a hard limit of only like 4 enemies and there's 50 of them charging you, no way you're not using smite

[plucky flax]

Not taken the illisi surge smite pill.

[radiant frigate]

if i run surge i bring assail

[plucky flax]

Smh mh

[radiant frigate]

if i run voidstrike i bring brain burst

[lapis violet]

why tho

same niche i feel

[plucky flax]

Ye I run assail with voidstrike.

[radiant frigate]

boss damage

[plucky flax]

Void is slow brain burst is also slow.

[lapis violet]

where's the horde clear

[plucky flax]

https://youtu.be/b657tHKOPcQ

[radiant frigate]

illisi and voidstrike

[stone canyon]

This changes things, guess i gotta go play round where i use Smite for first time effectively

[lapis violet]

or just a "there's 15 karkers charging you"

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[radiant frigate]

if these karkers aren't crushers i don't really care

[lapis violet]

play whatever but i think thats very inefficiet

yeah you play auric? what if they are?

very likely they are

[radiant frigate]

rarely see tbh

[plucky flax]

No I play sedition.

[lapis violet]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

"Yeah, I play sedition."

[radiant frigate]

and if there are 15 crushers, voidstrike and brain burst will certainly be good tools to kill them

[plucky flax]

15 crushers? I run away from them.

[stone canyon]

Things ive had smite in several builds, but barely ever used it, because ive just held LMB down and its barely done anything so ive gone back to my main weapon 🤷‍♂️

[lapis violet]

im sure it works for you but i would feel severely gimped

[radiant frigate]

even though i have never seen 15 crushers

more like 5

[stone canyon]

So im actually excited now to go see Smite as its supposed to be used for first time

[plucky flax]

Melee maelstrom would have 30 crushers and 60 bulwarks.

[lapis violet]

excessive number on my end but ive come across maybe 10 at once

[stone canyon]

Game really should tell with the skills how to use em

Or weapons

[radiant frigate]

i don't really do maelstroms

i think some of the modifiers are dumb

[lapis violet]

ye less plasteel

[radiant frigate]

like "mostly ranged"

[plucky flax]

Wut it's the same plasteels.

[lapis violet]

mostly ranged is cancer

[radiant frigate]

i did that once and it was so boring

[lapis violet]

i once got gunned down by 30 shooters in a line

[radiant frigate]

triple bubble psyker

sightseeing

[lapis violet]

same plasteel but no quickplau bonus

[plucky flax]

Tru dat

[radiant frigate]

Real

[lapis violet]

quickplay makes me tweek sometimes

i hate refinery and there's only 1 refinery out of like 5 damn auric missions

and lo and behold, i get put refinery 3 times in a row

[radiant frigate]

you have my curiosity though

you would run smite voidstrike?

[marble crater]

I think I have seen this before

Even saw Purgatus + Smite once

[lapis violet]

i run assail, personally, for a bit of a seer rp

but i would run smite with it otherwise

[radiant frigate]

fair i suppose

helps with shooters

[lapis violet]

purgatus is weird because you channel for so much time anyway, so may as well make the channel your main damage

[radiant frigate]

spread out shooters with voidstrike 💀

[potent echo]

It traps noobs into crutching on it, but you can definitely use it effectively if you know what you are doing

[lapis violet]

yeah when you put it that way

if i whip out smite its because teammates cant deal with certain enemies, or the sheer amount of them. if i see a smite psyker on my team, im glad i get to deal damage

if everything goes right, i whip out smite only for fun when everything is going right

[marble crater]

Yeah, ideally you never have to use smite at all

[lapis violet]

and that is not a problem for psyker, thankfully

[potent echo]

When I still used to play gunker, smite was more useful than either blitz

Malefic momentum might be kind of cool but it's still shitty agile engagement so I ain't that hot about it with a gun build

If malefic affected gun damage I might be more inclined to take it with gunker

[radiant frigate]

malefic momentum is cool with illisi voidstrike actually

[potent echo]

Yea I use it on my Deimos voidstrike build

[radiant frigate]

deimos 💀

[potent echo]

Deimos ❣️

[vestal fulcrum]

Sounds like a lot of work to keep it up, though

[rocky yarrow]

Deimos ❤️

[radiant frigate]

not really, you just get 20% bigger half charge surge crits

[potent echo]

It is a little bit but it's just more fun to me than just getting buffs from playing the game

Perfect timing

[radiant frigate]

or juicier empowered illisi cleaves

[potent echo]

Illisi synergies with it really well but you can't spell it without ill

[vestal fulcrum]

No, I mean, Illisi can probably keep the buff up relatively well, but Voidstrike making use of that buff is harder to justify

[potent echo]

Ah that's where you combo with true strike

[vestal fulcrum]

Since you typically keep distance from enemies with VS, or it kills potential targets for Illisi outright

[wind spruce]

Interesting. I have exactly the opposite thoughts

[potent echo]

I'm the melee psyker with void swapping madman

[wind spruce]

20% buff is always going to be good for void but seriously... what sort of uptime are you going to have

[potent echo]

You hit 5 heads, swap to guaranteed surge void, swap back

Discount weapon specialist vet

[wind spruce]

Yeah but that isn't how the flow of enemies really works

[potent echo]

That's how I make it work

[wind spruce]

In a situation where it would make sense to melee to buff void it'd make more sense to just commit

[potent echo]

You can void very easily with back dodge and charge like 1/4

[wind spruce]

*and rotate back and forth, specificallg

The issue isn't difficulty

Its usefulness

[potent echo]

The guaranteed double ball will do stuff

Probably but I don't use illisi so

[wind spruce]

Why not just keep shooting balls in the first placd

[potent echo]

Commit with Deimos

Because spamming balls in melee is cringe

Forceswords also have faster quell ticks, so I can melee/quell then swap back to void

In this way I don't need to rely on nexus too, surge/flurry void

It may not be optimal but it's the most fun playstyle for me

[lapis violet]

cursed

[potent echo]

It's not like I won't top the scoreboard anyway with a void lol

[lapis violet]

truth

[flat nexus]

I found that if i run really far ahead and dont die as my vet/zealot I can out dmg the pyskers that uses warpfire staff

[lethal lagoon]

If you are running scoreboard mod, you should be first 95%+ of the time.

[potent echo]

Yea purge staff falls behind if you are playing with absolute gamers

[lethal lagoon]

It's not really about build or class

It's about motivation

[potent echo]

Depends if your team level reaches 2000 total or not

[lethal lagoon]

Other than people I ran with on here, any 1k+ I've met has been pretty mid.

[potent echo]

I guess those people have scoreboard too

[lethal lagoon]

I say 95%, but for me it's like 99.9% with pubs.

Not that good either, scoreboard is just such a huge advantage

Build doesn't matter, OnlySmite memes to actual meta gunker. Class doesn't matter really either. Though I have to go meta on zealot simply cause I don't really play t.

Scoreboard just changes the mindset

[potent echo]

I'm scared of 1k level players who have no scoreboard 👀

[lethal lagoon]

Believe it or not, a lot of people just play the game

[potent echo]

Esp if it's 1k in one archetype and nothing else

[potent echo]

When you put "alot" and "play the game" in the same sentence

[lethal lagoon]

God they pissed away such a large lanuch fanbase

[plucky flax]

That's me.

[potent echo]

They still haven't fcked it up yet by having paid difficulty yet

[lethal lagoon]

I really hope they just straight up copy Helldivers 2 in the next major update, and give us some global goal

By major I mean patch 13 major

[potent echo]

I saw you post scoreboards before

[plucky flax]

It's fake.

[flat nexus]

👀

[plucky flax]

I stole it from @lethal lagoon

[ember charm]

Hello psyker players, I'd like to train a bit more with the Seer path, any melee / ranged weapon you could advice me that sin't the Dueling Sword IV ?

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[potent echo]

Real pick or troll pick

[ember charm]

Both are good

[potent echo]

Dclaw

[lethal lagoon]

He posted this scoreboard after we did an auric mael duo, I saved it before he hid it. Look at that carry, so bad

[potent echo]

Levels up your game

[ember charm]

Which one ? The standard one or the one that has the cleave on the lights ?

[lethal lagoon]

Illy is obvious choice

Deimos is basically dueling sword IV but magic

Dagger for zoom zoom

[potent echo]

Dclaw 4(?) I like the most, you can try the rest

Rashad axe also but you need to build it in a specific way with specific stat rolls

Main picks are illisi/Deimos/duelling4

[ember charm]

Yeah I wanted to get out of those 3 and try new stuff

[stuck sinew]

Duelling 2

[rigid sky]

What is the seer path?

Right side?

Tbh I pick my melee to fit my build in entirety

[potent echo]

Chainsword

Mainly just for rev it up so you can deafen yourself

[rigid sky]

Everything mostly stems out from my ranged choice

[ornate hamlet]

Do you need a specific build to benefit from a guaranteed stun that's incredibly fast to use and does part of the aiming for you?

[marble crater]

It's more about the normal smite, not the better charged version

[ornate hamlet]

What?

[rigid sky]

LMB vs RMB smite

LMB is generally considered to be not the way

[wind spruce]

Homies peeking is talking about utilising lmb for quick stuns of small amounts of enemies, not holding it down for long periods. It's definitely underrated in that respect.

[ornate hamlet]

LMB is bad for holding down, but it's a genuinely great way to quickly stun an enemy when needed

[wind spruce]

Eggzachary

[ornate hamlet]

Fast swap, fast effect, no reload needed

[wind spruce]

I just wish it wasn't so fkn weird when sliding

[ornate hamlet]

Works when the player is fairly close to an enemy and wants to close the gap for a melee attack, or when their gun is empty and they don't really have much time to reload

And also carries the smite thing of still having the RMB to fall back on

I find it pretty fun to play on revolver, considering it's sort of redundant with brain burst and assail is just too spammy sometimes

And also allows some of the left talents to be picked

[cosmic sigil]

same

[wind spruce]

I like it with columnus because I am a masochist

[ember charm]

Yeah

[upper sun]

🤔

[cinder moon]

[vestal fulcrum]

Could be better, but it’s salvageable

Flurry is a relatively front-loaded blessing, at least that’s the positive end of it

Reroll Crit damage and TB

[upper sun]

i think ill mess with this one instead

[untold niche]

because if its something i want to CC to kill with void, then i might as well shoot void

If its just a poxyb i think i can just do uncharged void as well

Hmmm but i guess the benefit is that they get CC-ed earlier

[quartz barn]

Void is so good it just doesnt matter

Why bother staggering something when void will instakill

[radiant frigate]

Yes

we should start a cult

[lyric burrow]

Melee heavy is simply the best way to play psyker

[wind spruce]

You already lead the I don't dodge-slide death cult, kat

Don't over extend

[radiant frigate]

melee heavy is simply the best way to play

[lyric burrow]

I say that and then my ranged damage is 400k per mission but thats just cause assail go brrr

And i generally bring single target melee

[radiant frigate]

why would i dodge slide if i already have sprint slide

am i going to slide away from shooters?

[lyric burrow]

When i bring illisi/dclaw its much higher tho

[radiant frigate]

dclaw 💀

[lyric burrow]

Dodge sliding can be nice to getting away from shooters/into cover

[wind spruce]

Literally yes (to avoid shooters)

[lyric burrow]

Although you can honestly just look away

[wind spruce]

And dodge sliding doesn't require you to start sprinting first

And you can angle the camera differently

[lyric burrow]

Dclaw goated

[radiant frigate]

what's the context where i would even use this, regular shooters can be dodged, gunners i just briefly swap to voidstrike and throw a few bolts their way

or if it's a long range engagement i already have cover

[wind spruce]

I can't even

[radiant frigate]

indeed

[wind spruce]

Dodge slide let's you actually do that but without the extra layer of cope

[radiant frigate]

ah, but then I'd have to change keybinds!

inconceivable

[wind spruce]

What if there's four gunners and they are dispersed

You can't "briefly" shoot a few voidstrike shots to stop that threat

[radiant frigate]

sounds like a case for shriek

[wind spruce]

Shriek is down

And they are dispersed

So you can only hit 2

[radiant frigate]

how far are we talking

am i sitting in a perfect killzone

[wind spruce]

Seven fars

[radiant frigate]

that is a lot of fars my friend

i suppose i would just have to learn to dodge slide or abandon my death cult

very unfortunate

[wind spruce]

Abandon or become martyr for

[remote bloom]

A death cult? How can I enlist?

[wind spruce]

Don't dodge-slide and you're in [the enemies hands waiting to be rescued].

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

the death cult has good food

i think i will stay

[remote bloom]

Burger :)

[wind spruce]

Careful, it's a poisoned falice

[radiant frigate]

it's part if the death cult

[remote bloom]

I am immune to such things, I am Polish

[radiant frigate]

microdosing poison to build up a resistance

[remote bloom]

💪

[radiant frigate]

also known as alcoholism

[remote bloom]

That's me

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/piwo-gif-9134806494356314119

[remote bloom]

Piwo :)

I have some in the fridge, saved for tonight

[wind spruce]

I am passionate about dick flyers

https://youtu.be/PosO-RO74ZY?si=crIYlAJV6-X9x_Gv

[radiant frigate]

how do you like the new name

[remote bloom]

Very good

Sadly I cannot alter my name to sorta same thing, but oh well

[wind spruce]

I love to hate it

[remote bloom]

I should finally work on levelling up that damn psyker

[radiant frigate]

i will take what i get

[upper sun]

rush to assail

[quartz barn]

Tbh dodge sliding is pretty easy with shift-ctrl

[lyric burrow]

I use a mouse button

Ctrl got tiring for me

[quartz barn]

Can be a but scuffed for your pinky but i just lower my hand rather than bend my finger

[remote bloom]

I am too Vermintide pilled to do that, sorry

[quartz barn]

Kinda had to after 300h+ in gtfo

[remote bloom]

I'm gonna commit heavy melee playstyle for Psyker

[upper sun]

most melee weapons are trash when you're levelling

[remote bloom]

I won't be alone in my adventures I'll be fine

[upper sun]

same for vet actually i ended up using the hellbore melee until my vet was like 25

[radiant frigate]

illisi death cult :)

[remote bloom]

Illsi :)

[upper sun]

going from peesword and peegun to illisi and voidstrike seems like its not much of a change

[lyric burrow]

Yeah those are p comparable

Some slight changes

[upper sun]

illisi with force cycle would be so sick

[lyric burrow]

That would be incredibly broken but it would be cool

[quartz barn]

Ngl i read that as force sickle

[upper sun]

FORCE CYCLE BROMOMENTUM ILLISI

[lyric burrow]

Force sickle would also be cool

[remote bloom]

Meanwhile Power Sword with Power Cycler:

[quartz barn]

Curved force sword would be sick

[remote bloom]

Yum

[upper sun]

i very recently got pcycle 4 😄

[remote bloom]

Recently I have got BM 4, couldn't get it for shit

[lyric burrow]

PC also probably shouldnt exist but it makes a but more sense to me there

[remote bloom]

I mean, powerfield generators last much longer than that

[radiant frigate]

but would it be better than slaughterer?

[lyric burrow]

No question

[remote bloom]

Uhh, maybe

[upper sun]

idk prolly would be the same just more engaging to use the active than m1 spam

[lyric burrow]

Slaught is good but 3 back to back illisi specials per charge would be nuts

[remote bloom]

Cleave :)

[lyric burrow]

I mean idk anything about lore but balance wise i don't think PC is great esp in a world where it can also get BM

[remote bloom]

Balance wise it's not really a case of pre-nerf bm

Most Veterans I see anyway commit to stronger range focus

[lyric burrow]

Yeah vets arent super melee heavy although it is very possible

[hexed geyser]

Stupid but funny idea : force weapon stay activated but take Warp for every swing

[lyric burrow]

They have some p crazy melee talents

[remote bloom]

I am melee heavy Veteran :)

Thanks to @radiant frigate

[radiant frigate]

your focus is what you make it

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[radiant frigate]

SG users in shambles

[zinc phoenix]

They are, it’s very easy to build incredibly strong melee vets

[zinc phoenix]

That would honestly make for a great trait pick

I wish there were more traits like that and fewer traits that are straight upgrades

[jovial juniper]

Me building unstable power

[stone canyon]

Ooh 4x 80

Bricked 😅

[upper sun]

F

cant have shit in atoma

[stone canyon]

Its alright though, got this already

But could have been Rending Shockwave one

[upper sun]

trauma blessings are such a mess

surge doesnt work on secondary im 90% sure transfer peril doesnt work either

[stone canyon]

Trauma Surge is best

[plucky flax]

The worse build.

[stone canyon]

I got blazing one for blazing build already though, so could have tried it too

My Blazing Trauma could use the +5% crit perk though

So doesnt hurt to try luck with good rolls

[upper sun]

aside from a voidstrike with crit and a deimos with executor/uncanny and an illisi with slaught/deflector im kinda done building psyker stuff

i have a feeling once we get the crafting rework i'm gonna be done interacting with the crafting system

[plucky flax]

My ass is getting tattooed it's so painful.

[upper sun]

[plucky flax]

Not quite ass but upper thigh very close to the cheek.

[upper sun]

live stream it rn

[plucky flax]

[radiant frigate]

what's the tattoo though

[plucky flax]

Hrm.. native American theme leg sleeve.

[upper sun]

an anatomically correct teddy bear

[plucky flax]

Bison on the back of my leg.

[upper sun]

wouldnt it make more sense to start from the foot up?

err ankle w/e

[plucky flax]

No I want to do all around the upper leg first.

First session was front thigh.

[upper sun]

also technically 🤓 its only called a sleeve if its for the arms

[plucky flax]

Arm sleeve leg sleeve.

Both sleeve.

[upper sun]

would you call pants a long sleeve shirt then?

[plucky flax]

Bruh

[plucky flax]

The front from first session.

[upper sun]

looks pretty good

keep that away from the sun at all cost

[plucky flax]

Unfortunately I do a lot of running. But I always put on sun screen.

[upper sun]

just put on some long sleeve leg shirts

[plucky flax]

Overheating problem.

[upper sun]

consider assless chaps then

[plucky flax]

High peril that way.

[stone canyon]

Borat mankini so maximum visibility for the tattoos

[radiant frigate]

powerful

[mighty olive]

Absolutely gorgeous!

[plucky flax]

[remote bloom]

As much as I am not a fan of tattoos, this one's fire

[radiant frigate]

i also like the one with the dragon

[upper sun]

if i ever got tattoos it would be something beyond stupid like left/right on the wrong hand

this is fucking fire why dont psyker weapons get suck skins

[lyric burrow]

Cant you put weapon skins on weapons across classes

So long as they can use the weapon

Or are you saying for psyker specific stuff

[upper sun]

ye i want psyker specific stuff

like the illisi skin that recently dropped looks exactly like another one

[lyric burrow]

They released a red one that changed the blade i like

[plucky flax]

Fartshart and reskin then sell for full price.

[marble crater]

Not even a blaze trauma tattoo

Will you get one when they buff it?

[plucky flax]

I already have warhammer fantasy tattoo. Another warhammer tattoo would be too cringe.

[upper sun]

warhammer fantasy? now thats cringe

[plucky flax]

Actually prefer fantasy to 40k. Would love for larian to make fantasy crpg.

Gw would give them the go ahead instantly since they are greedy

[upper sun]

though i can see how getting an imperial eagle tattoo would be sus

[upper sun]

fantasy bad grimdark good

sigmar is cringe

[plucky flax]

Nah just say you're German.

[upper sun]

🤔 i think that would make it worse

befair though a two headed eagle is more albanian/greek than a german thing

[plucky flax]

Make it 2 heads
https://www.google.com/search?q=german+eagle&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sca_esv=0d192b7b40015184&sxsrf=ACQVn0-1_rMD88bXfQ8z60jtGEbKZN14hQ:1712341250671&udm=2&source=iu&ictx=1&vet=1&fir=6jjjq8mfC3LKfM%252C8Ay1Ddnwl8UKNM%252C_%253BbW0EwE5oRqxgaM%252CvOiWb_9j940jaM%252C_%253B--WctIosvXVRCM%252CcR51iZkbLTOxvM%252C_%253BRgGOOws5J3_lfM%252CAkuLp_5M6n-c3M%252C_%253BFxFIr7VwZNSPGM%252CvOiWb_9j940jaM%252C_%253BTCloNga58n3R2M%252CJT4iaIem6TtoyM%252C_%253Bu57zB3NI7s_UHM%252CLLAEdsohbG2PiM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQP8wEZU5lCZKHk7tclXPYcgCTBBw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbyOuf2KuFAxUrVEEAHfOlA_4Q_h16BAheEAE&biw=1129&bih=2153&dpr=3.5#vhid=bW0EwE5oRqxgaM&vssid=mosaic

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/albania-flag-gif-25053081

this one already has two

the two headed eagle was kind of a byzantine symbol

[plucky flax]

I'd have a tattoo of sanguinuis tho

Steroid angel in big armour.

[upper sun]

sangui was a real one rip

i really hope GW brings him back before i die of old age

[plucky flax]

They will. Ez models sell.

[upper sun]

@plucky flax asshole

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

team wiped after you left

[plucky flax]

I didn't queue up for that map.

I hate ventilation purge I dunno why it put me there.

[upper sun]

sniper purge is fun

fuk u

its peak zealot gameplay

[plucky flax]

Can play if you want just not vent/lights out.

[tulip kettle]

space jesus aint ever comin back

theres already one holy trinity in 40k, we dont need another

In the name of the Machine god, the Omnissiah, and the motive force!

[crude vortex]

'Tis all that is required.

[fathom totem]

When your psyker gets better pewpew then your vet and zealot.

[marble crater]

The Omnissiah wills it

[crude vortex]

The psyker has earned the Omnissiah's favor this day. If they keep proving themself worthy, more is to come.

[queen trout]

Damn that's practically perfect

[upper sun]

OK

[upper sun]

FUCK YOU HE WILL

[upper sun]

Omnissiah is not real

[marble crater]

Space Jesus is corpse emperor?

[upper sun]

WOWOWOW heretics cult mechanicus and emperor deniers

im getting the purge staff

[marble crater]

My beloved said it's okay if I call him that

[upper sun]

You're getting force fed your meds

[vale holly]

https://tenor.com/view/saltzpyre-eyebrow-raise-vermintide-gif-24052002

[ornate hamlet]

sigmar balls

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[ember solstice]

I love watching my team suicide rush into a horde of specialists

[upper sun]

thats an imperial guardsman from the imperial guard

[tulip kettle]

A LOYAL SERVANT OF THE EMPEROR

WHO KNOWS HIS PLACE

AND HERESY WHEN HE SEES IT!!!!!!!!!!

[upper sun]

they hate the cult mechanicus

[tulip kettle]

lol

they can suck my machine spirit

also wtf is the imperial guard

never heard of it

[upper sun]

the people who defend ur rusty ass planet

[tulip kettle]

i think you mean "astra militarum"

[tulip kettle]

you mean skitarii?

[upper sun]

"The Astra Militarum, also known as the Imperial Guard in colloquial Low Gothic,"

[tulip kettle]

and 2 billion kataphron battle servitors

[upper sun]

damn all that and u still need stinky humans in stinky armor

[tulip kettle]

the flesh is indeed weak

[ember solstice]

Whenever I try to record footage for the game my game ends up disconnecting and crashing

Wtf

[upper sun]

prolly not enough vram to juggle both

[ember solstice]

[wind spruce]

Lmao, shrecked

[wind spruce]

Fantasy will always be superior to sci-fi

Dis just be the facts 🤷‍♂️

[upper sun]

NUH UHHHHHHHHHH

[wind spruce]

I have a massive Horde flag from war craft on my calf

[calm sapphire]

40k Is kinda fantasy sci-fi tho?

[wind spruce]

A warhammer fantasy tattoo would be sick

[wind spruce]

True

But the sci-fi part ruins it 😉

Moar magic less guns pls

[lethal lagoon]

[rich jolt]

Both are equally good or bad depending on the writer

[lethal lagoon]

For me, I can't really read sci-fi unless it has fantasy mixed in, exactly like "psykers".

I was a dirty traitor who switched between alliance and horde, so I could never have something that cool

[ember solstice]

I’m trying to get the power up penance

How do you get charges

[wind spruce]

I'm just messing around, it's about personal preference

[rich jolt]

Ok

[wind spruce]

Disgusting

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

Agreed, give us more staves, maybe a Trauma staff that shoots out Surge lightning upon explosion

[upper sun]

not even batman can get me to post a picture of my calves spread eagle to psykerchat

[lethal lagoon]

Low-key I'd do it for batman

[upper sun]

thats irrelevant

[lethal lagoon]

You wouldn't do it for batman?

[cinder moon]

batman wouldn't ask

[rich jolt]

Why does batman need to see our calves

[radiant frigate]

you should paint your skin green

[lethal lagoon]

Don't question batman

[upper sun]

bruh why are there level 23s in my auric

[rich jolt]

Clearly you upset the emperor

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

Cause that guy was "carrying" his friends

Not realizing every auric he beat he got carried

[radiant frigate]

rather strange looking red zealot

[upper sun]

sad thing is we were doing well (me and the other guy soloing the whole map) until some barreled him

and i got silent trappered while trying to pick him up

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

it was totally silent ok?

OK?

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

IT WAS

[rich jolt]

Ok grandpa lets go get you your hearing aid

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[upper sun]

😭

[cinder moon]

i got trapped through a closed door once

was swinging through it, trapper spawned behind and used uno reverse card

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

man i swear to god the fucking barrels i need to start using the two shot burst gun and pop every one before any engagements

[lethal lagoon]

I always pop them on the boss fight

[cinder moon]

i love using barrels offensively

staggering bosses with them, or making hordes/boss walk through the fire

A++

[upper sun]

barrel fast travel helped me once

[cinder moon]

barrel jumping out of a tight spot when surrounded is a rare but memorable moment

[lethal lagoon]

I'd wear shorts all the time

[long wharf]

so, another penance revamp, huh?

[wind spruce]

Hard to feel self-conscious with a bunch of GAMER NERDS

[wind spruce]

I do as much as possible

I need to get around to finishing the shading

[thick valley]

seems like an attempt at a free battlepass

[long wharf]

there's nothing "battlepass" about it

[thick valley]

The screenshots look like it

[long wharf]

the screenshots that show the interface for looking at your penance progress?

[radiant frigate]

if it's untimed and unpaid, is it really a battlepass

[long wharf]

it's not a battlepass, at all

[thick valley]

This is the one

[thick valley]

true, maybe this is a one and done deal

[marble crater]

Progression system

[upper sun]

ate a crusher overhead to read that

im telling you the game just bullshits me that trapper was silent

[ornate hamlet]

This is my time to watch the video 7 times, pay attention exclusively to the trapper sound and start my next sentence with "in hindsight"

[upper sun]

oh no mean a trapper i mentioned before

now i'm coping about pox bursters get with the program

[ornate hamlet]

Oh

I didn't watch anyway, my phone is shit

It's why I sometimes take almost a minute grabbing a GIF

[upper sun]

all i'm saying is the game is rigged against me personally and in reality i'm the best player ever

[wind spruce]

"Clad" more like CHAD

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

[marble crater]

Don't think the best player ever would get trapped, even if it was "silent"

[lethal lagoon]

[flint pawn]

Just returned and wanted to make this knife, I'm content with how it turned out

[ornate hamlet]

Lacerate

At least you can use it until something with a non-zero finesse value comes up

[lethal lagoon]

When fatshark RNG drives you so insane you decide to make crits do about the same damage as normal hits as a way of controlling something.

Hide from the chaos

[wind ether]

yo im coming off zealot onto psyker and wanna give dueling sword a solid go. what are you guys running for those?

[rich spindle]

I like uncanny and one of the dodge blessings

Since its mostly used to poke carapace in the head

Other people like rampage but it takes some wiggling to proc

[cosmic sigil]

It's easier to proce rampage with the push attack or the MK2 heavy 2

[lethal lagoon]

They changed it, normal lights proc it just fine for d4

[lethal lagoon]

Dueling sword Mk4 is the clear meta with Uncanny. Second Blessing is up in the air.
Mk5 Has strong move tech
Mk2 has a small but loyal fanbase who believe reality is just a suggestion.

Mk4 has only pokes as it's heavies and does like 30-50% more damage for no reason than Mk2

[cosmic sigil]

My god why but why

[wind ether]

I am using surge staff so carapace isnt an issue, just need something to survive, juke and jive

[lethal lagoon]

I use mk4 with surge for muties and when I wanna pokey poke.

the move tech is nice too even if isn't insane like mk5

Flaming shriek covers your horde clear pretty easily

Illius Force sword is probably better in general for surge staff though

[wind ether]

thats what im using now

im kinda over weapons with a lil power up

[lethal lagoon]

You can just spam l1 or l1h2 with Illy

You don't have to power up

Just use slaughterer and uncanny

Even for mutants, if you get a crit or 2 it'll die super fast with illy, let alone regular mobs.

[rich spindle]

Ds and surge will be very annoying on maps like ascension riser

Id only take ds if your staff can deal with hordes

[wind ether]

okay I just ran an auric just left clicking and... why was I ever using the heavy lol

[lethal lagoon]

I just yell really loudly and everything dies

[lethal lagoon]

Special heavy is only nice if that's what you are into

Or if there's some ragers

[wind ether]

soulblaze or the peril damage?

[lethal lagoon]

Peril damage is arguably the worst talent in the game

Shriek Soul blaze is arguably the best single talent in the game

It's an interesting dichotomy

This will kill every single horde mob, every single shoot mob, and every single bruiser if you shriek at 85% peril.

It's a "Fuck everything in that general direction" ability

[lethal lagoon]

Flaming shriek pairs really well with surge staff. Everytime I see a surge staff user with a shield I cry a little.

Here's the most basic bitch standard Surge Staff build.

There are some changes you can make as you get experienced, but this is the base.

[wind ether]

that's exactly what Im using but didnt take kinetic deflection

[lethal lagoon]

[wind ether]

upgrading my smite so I could let the zealots have more fun smacking stuff

[lethal lagoon]

Smite upgrades are pretty mid.

In a real game there isn't a practical difference for the +1 jump.

The 10% damage only during smite is meh

[wind ether]

christ you got the power point ready to go

[lethal lagoon]

We spent a few hours messing around with all the psyker abilities cause we were curious lmao

[wind ether]

I feel the smite jump quite a bit in game

I used to run without it because I figured what waas one extra jump

but it lets ya reach quite a bit further out when you split up a bit

I'm not caught out needing to block as often as that extra jump helped me I feel

[lethal lagoon]

• 1 jump can make up for bad positioning.

Which is actually a bad thing.

In the long-term

[wind ether]

make up for my team's bad positioning* I'm perfect always ;)

[lethal lagoon]

[wind ether]

I wanna try a crit stabby dueling sword build tho

idk what blitz would go well with purgatus/dueling sword tho

I figured maybe brain rupture would be cool but I gotta zig zag so hard in the tree

[lethal lagoon]

Purg BB is the classic pairing

[wind ether]

like am I crazy for this one

[lethal lagoon]

I was gonna mention what was wrong but the message got too long and I gave up.

So just have fun

[wind ether]

[dusk void]

I just can't grasp the fact that players are still doing this. ONE SIMPLE FUCKING RULE: DO NOT SHOOT AT A POXBURSTER WHEN I'M ABOUT TO PUSH THEM

[hollow current]

Another favorite is when I ping a burster that’s far and start shooting/softening it up and someone starts running to it like it has the winning lottery sticker.

[wind ether]

I see red I stab

[hollow current]

If it’s near someone tho I ignore it because it’s their problem lol.

[restive ice]

i made something like this last week and can confirm you’re crazy

funny as fuck though

[wind ether]

I ran it and died instantly twice

I had to leave it was too embarassing

[restive ice]

lmao

i think you can hit the scab rager bb bp at around 20 gaze stacks

that was the only saving grace i found with it

[rich spindle]

This may be the worst tree possible

[ember solstice]

I’ve contracted gamer leg

[viral inlet]

testing this on a giant horde is weird, I mostly use smite against elites and specials and not trash mobs

I'd instead check how many crushers or maulers you can stop with this thing at once

[lethal lagoon]

Those are all ragers, I don't think smite changes behavior based on elite vs mob.
Anyways, I was more trying to see the "maximum"

And generally speaking the conclusion is that in a real game you'll never hit the max, so +1 jump has limited use.

Smite doesn't care if it's an elite or a mob, it's the same number as far as I'm aware.

There is an argument to be made about +1 jump reaching further away shooters, but I just can't see it mattering that much outside of an experimental setting.

[marble crater]

And the +1 jump and +10% damage only work on the regular smite, not the charged one, right?

[lethal lagoon]

No it works on both.

A lot of patches changed smite so it's hard to tell if that was just a commonly believed myth(I definitely didn't get fooled ) or was true at some point.

[radiant frigate]

does the +10% damage also affect the smite itself

[lethal lagoon]

Check the reply chain, there's a picture of +1 jump versus not

Yes

[radiant frigate]

does it also affect your soulblaze

[marble crater]

Hmm, well I still don't think it's worth picking either of those, so it doesn't matter I guess

[radiant frigate]

does it just affect everything

[lethal lagoon]

I don't wanna say yes cause I don't remember.

But I think it just hits everything

[plucky flax]

Imagine smiting.

[lethal lagoon]

It definitely is multiplicative on smite damage

That's all I will say

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

I smite all the poxhound waves I see

[lethal lagoon]

Who would do that

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[radiant frigate]

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[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

smite is great because it doesnt require upgrades and its a nice path to psy aura

[cinder moon]

smite is great

assail and bb got you clicking like you’re from last of us, meanwhile smite just go ZAP

[radiant frigate]

i default to running bb for reliable boss damage

especially bonbon

plus it's a burst phase so i can just f, burst a bunch, and then go back to other stuff

(since there are usually other threats too)

[cinder moon]

this is why we keep an ogryn around

especially a light em up gunlugger

[rich spindle]

is it just me or are yall failing 70% of auric missions

team mates are so bad tonight

[cinder moon]

side note, it's crazy how easy runs are when you have one of each class, meanwhile the game generally makes team comps that are 3 of one class

4 ogryn runs are either a cakewalk or unreasonably hard, no in between

[remote bloom]

3 psykers in a game is usually a disaster

[cinder moon]

i tend to be one of the psykers and am usually running smite/surge so i can keep everyone else alive